[opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. 2. The installation process did not ask for or set the network Default Gateway. 3. Literally hundreds of the following message had to be acknowledged. 'Patch Process Callback nn' 4. Replying OK to the message requesting permission to perform a reboot after an online update did not initiate the reboot. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] couldn't launch gnome-settings-daemon after update to RC1
/usr/lib/control-center-2.0/gnome-settings-daemon: error while loading shared libraries: libgstaudio-0.10.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Do you have gstreamer010-plugins-base installed? Can you please provide the output of ldd /usr/lib/control-center-2.0/gnome-settings-daemon | grep gst ? -- James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/download/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Online updater is Beautifull now!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The updater is marvelous! Realy nice, how this works now: Not to many wasted pixels, clear, and the possibility to see what the update is.. I like the star more than the trafficsign.. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-25-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9hXEX5/X5X6LpDgRAm+qAJ4gcxt3R8+O6QUiI3kwXUepJe10tQCfRmMS 452nsnfzLTYfMY3pmJMD6Y4= =+MJ0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 install not completing
Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Carlos E. R.: The Saturday 2007-09-22 at 22:12 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Still this very problem _is_ caused by xfs. Everyone having had this problem so far could not reproduce a single problem when not using xfs. Even though the real problem is not the file system, but the fact that yast leaves it corrupted. ext3 and reiserfs seem to cope better with being corrupted though. Now that you mention it, I did get a corrupted reiserfs, after first boot during install. It appears the filesystem was not umounted properly before rebooting. Recovery was automatic, but it took enough time for me to notice. Several screens of it, actually. Yes, reiserfs notices the corruption, corrects it and everything continues. Just as ext3 does. xfs lets yast crash - but I'm not allowed to claim xfs bugs on this list. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Online updater is Beautifull now!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M9. schreef: Hi, The updater is marvelous! Realy nice, how this works now: Not to many wasted pixels, clear, and the possibility to see what the update is.. I like the star more than the trafficsign.. Kernel-update ok. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9iDPX5/X5X6LpDgRAuulAKCVamsW0mXz6ZvyMU5xMVJfHvbEfwCfZwD9 F1z0+drzHSYlDzOeArlYQJI= =3gog -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 install not completing
On Sunday 23 September 2007 03:07, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Saturday 2007-09-22 at 22:12 +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote: Still this very problem _is_ caused by xfs. Everyone having had this problem so far could not reproduce a single problem when not using xfs. Even though the real problem is not the file system, but the fact that yast leaves it corrupted. ext3 and reiserfs seem to cope better with being corrupted though. Now that you mention it, I did get a corrupted reiserfs, after first boot during install. It appears the filesystem was not umounted properly before rebooting. Recovery was automatic, but it took enough time for me to notice. Several screens of it, actually. i can confirm this , clean install on a old aldi Medion portable , using reiserfs and KDE mini iso , i also noticed FS recovery after first reboot. Seems to be bug 326478. luc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Kulow schreef: Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Keith Goggin: 1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. Sorry for you, it adds value for tons of other users. As a matter of fact: This is imho, one of the most valuable options added, if not the most important.( I love it the most ;-) See the improvement: Network is up as early as possible: sources are enclosed, so you do not have to download first, and then burn, and then install. So it saves a lot of time. Also it can be made possible to add another source, like nfs, or the dvd-player on another pc.. 4. Replying OK to the message requesting permission to perform a reboot after an online update did not initiate the reboot. It doesn't imply it would reboot either. But it could be a feature enhancement at least to the desktop applets. So if it doesn't yet exist, please file it in bugzilla. If it is up to me, i would like an option like in the new updater: choose for to install updates that require a reboot, or not. Reboot after install? y/n Greetings, Stephan - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9ipdX5/X5X6LpDgRApxOAKDJXsQrJHiDPwzTZifY2xXXguIc1ACeOzT3 2K4li9WPu/3sam4ra+tWd3Y= =dG/7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
Stephan Kulow schrieb: Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Keith Goggin: 1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. Sorry for you, it adds value for tons of other users. I don't see the added value either. I tried adding the online repositories during installation, just to be told that 30MB will be installed from DVD and the other 2GB(!) will be downloaded. Exactly _why_ did I download the DVD then? This turns a 30 minute install from DVD into a download session that takes hours! Not to speak about the timeouts that occured and caused the installation to be interrupted until I pressed the try downloading again button. Shouldn't the downloader be able to retrieve some files via internet without me pressing a button all the time? Regards nordi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
M9. wrote: See the improvement: Network is up as early as possible: sources are enclosed, so you do not have to download first, and then burn, and then install. So it saves a lot of time. may be a fix: don't set it as default on dvd install? many dvd install don't have any network at hand at all and if they go just a littl too fast and don't remove the click, they got i truble. The option is ok, make it the default is the only problem 4. Replying OK to the message requesting permission to perform a reboot after an online update did not initiate the reboot. this must not be done without great care, it's only needed for kernel change and in the past such change where not always armless I hope the old kernel is still available (but it was not the case in the past) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb nordi: Stephan Kulow schrieb: Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Keith Goggin: 1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. Sorry for you, it adds value for tons of other users. I don't see the added value either. I tried adding the online repositories during installation, just to be told that 30MB will be installed from DVD and the other 2GB(!) will be downloaded. Exactly _why_ did I download the DVD then? This turns a 30 minute install from DVD into a download session that takes hours! You're aware that you're speaking about a bug, right? It never happened to me though, so I would be very interested in what exactly you did. Note though that tomorrow we'l sync out factory again and then it will be normal that the installation prefers the online variant. But today factory is definitely of the same age as RC1. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] 3D KMPs
I was wondering about the status of the 3d-blob kmps. Are some available for testing somewhere? Can they be expected to be ready on release day? High expectations have been built up for 10.3, also outside of SUSE fanboy circles, I think it's important an effort is made to have the KMPs available on release day. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Some issues after resume + laptop too loud
Hi, I have some troubles with suspend/resume on 10.3 RC1. 1.) Sometimes sound doesn't work after resume. Intel AC97 codec, module snd_intel8x0. Restart ALSA doesn't work for me, I have to run alsaconf to detect soundcard and restart sound. 2.) Cookies don't work in Konqueror after resume. I have to restart whole KDE. 3.) As I mentioned in discussion on OpenSUSE news site, my laptop is too loud with running 10.3 compared to 10.1 and Kubuntu Feisty. But temperature is even lower. It is Pentium-M running with dynamic CPU freq policy and ATI X700 set to low power (aticonfig --set-powerstate=1) but ventilator is still running. I'll try powertop in Kubuntu to compare it with 10.3. It is very annoying for me :( Regards R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
On Sunday 23 September 2007, Keith Goggin wrote: 1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. 2. The installation process did not ask for or set the network Default Gateway. 3. Literally hundreds of the following message had to be acknowledged. 'Patch Process Callback nn' 4. Replying OK to the message requesting permission to perform a reboot after an online update did not initiate the reboot. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no way to give a wirless card an WEP key to get a network connection so it fails , For people in the same situation as me this is a total stopper my internet connection is via wirless not hard wired that has not been taken into account therefore i am unable to update until rebooted and fully configured . (ps i share an internet connection with the shop next door after having the landline taken out here ) -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Open office realy not installable in 10.3?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M9. schreef: M9. schreef: M9. schreef: Hi, I added packman and choose to install wether it changed the arch. No problem at all!? Packman has all the pkgs. I realy do not understand why this has to be like unsolvable? In total 65 pkgs involved.. This is confusing... Now i understand some more: Writer starts but can not find the doc dir..;-) After updating to the last sync this morning, Oo works as normal: Writer starts when selecting a document with quickstarter, Documents can be found after starting writer. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9kPAX5/X5X6LpDgRAs03AKCWrcowUHZHdeN3hdGRRmEOYTrspgCg3LKh ricGzEcogHmRUxFt5WKfM+o= =YwGz -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Some issues after resume + laptop too loud
Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Jaroslav Reznik: Hi, I have some troubles with suspend/resume on 10.3 RC1. 1.) Sometimes sound doesn't work after resume. Intel AC97 codec, module snd_intel8x0. Restart ALSA doesn't work for me, I have to run alsaconf to detect soundcard and restart sound. I'm not aware of that problem. You better report it including your kernel logs. 2.) Cookies don't work in Konqueror after resume. I have to restart whole KDE. Only kded. See bug 326488 Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
El Domingo, 23 de Septiembre de 2007 08:55:11 Stephan Kulow escribió: Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Keith Goggin: 1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. Sorry for you, it adds value for tons of other users. Here I see two good ideas but a wrong implementation of them. Really most users are willing a dvd install, as full featured, fast and simply as it is possible even in scenarios where no internet is available. Of course, the rest of users should be the tons of other users you're talking about, and they prefer a network install. IMHO, both are valid _separate_ concepts. The wrong thing is to force dvd users to perform a network install by default. If we are talking about to install 10.3 in a home pc, no matter if we have to wait 14 hours to get it installed, but when you translate this to an office with... lets say 10 pc's, its simply unusable. I hope we can improve both concepts for 11.0 Miquel. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Miquel A. Noguera schreef: Here I see two good ideas but a wrong implementation of them. Really most users are willing a dvd install, as full featured, fast and simply as it is possible even in scenarios where no internet is available. Of course, the rest of users should be the tons of other users you're talking about, and they prefer a network install. IMHO, both are valid _separate_ concepts. The wrong thing is to force dvd users to perform a network install by default. If we are talking about to install 10.3 in a home pc, no matter if we have to wait 14 hours to get it installed, but when you translate this to an office with... lets say 10 pc's, its simply unusable. I hope we can improve both concepts for 11.0 I agree also with this, ( i had probs with unsolvable deps, when using both dvd and network install) 1) Impossible to get both options at same time: If Network is choosen: dvd greyed out. 2) Not default option. My suggestion, i do not know if it is possible: Network set-up has to be working, if not: Network install NA. Is this possible? Miquel. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9kd5X5/X5X6LpDgRAuQYAKDWZFiP4d8bBjCvAcKGIlwLBK+CGgCfaR4V k5XkRp29OWDUqXlwfk6H5zw= =atFu -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
nordi wrote: Stephan Kulow schrieb: Not to speak about the timeouts that occured and caused the installation to be interrupted until I pressed the try downloading again button. Shouldn't the downloader be able to retrieve some files via internet without me pressing a button all the time? It would be preferable that the installation continued with the next file automatically, or at least after some time of no user response, with an option to cancel that repo, or to find another repo. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
On Sunday 23 September 2007 06:24:15 am Carlos E. R. wrote: nordi wrote: Stephan Kulow schrieb: Not to speak about the timeouts that occured and caused the installation to be interrupted until I pressed the try downloading again button. Shouldn't the downloader be able to retrieve some files via internet without me pressing a button all the time? It would be preferable that the installation continued with the next file automatically, or at least after some time of no user response, with an option to cancel that repo, or to find another repo. The problem can be slow server response. I had that few times on normal days. Press Retry few times and installation continues. IMHO, there is no ideal solution. If default is to try few times before pops the window with message asking user decision, than with bad repository it will take forever to download files. It will never pop the message, but process will spend more time trying again than actually installing files. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carlos E. R. schreef: It would be preferable that the installation continued with the next file automatically, or at least after some time of no user response, with an option to cancel that repo, or to find another repo. This did not occur to me, there was no stop, nor did i have to intervene, or pushing whatever button. It just worked perfect ;-) (for me it did.) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9lHYX5/X5X6LpDgRAsyoAJ9KI+nRNjwPHgXaeUtAFYkRXpwauwCgoqlE CQFcBF6iFulwur88hVImfnA= =tof9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
Hi, I have the following defined on 10.2 (works fine): /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto \ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 This doesn't work in 10.3: minas-morgul:~ # mount /mnt/dvd.crypta.x Password: ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument minas-morgul:~ # Yes, I have read the release notes regarding encrypted filesystems, and I don't understand: those notes are too brief and unexpected. How am I supposed to activate via /etc/init.d/boot.crypto a filesystem that is not connected at boot time, but later? How can I mount and umount voluntarily encrypted filesystms via fstab, as previously? -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Two Yast sessions in RC1
Hi,ç I don't know how, but the chair-keyboard interface got two yast sessions running, both trying an online update, and both failing complaining there was another program using the database. So far, normal. The problem was trying to kill them both. One of them had to be forced kill, and revived: but with no display window in kde. I could see in top a y2base that I had to kill, but when I tried top complained there was no such pid; true enough, the pid had changed. Then I noticed that on almost each top refresh (2) the PID changed. Finally, via ps afx I discovered it's parent, yastonlinesomething, and killed that. Yast is running now alright. So... couldn't yast-online figure another yast-online was already running before starting, and exit with an informative message box? Now it discovers the problems when it fails to grab the rpm database, it seems. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 RC1 installation - (Second) hard disc seen as wrong size
Andreas Vetter wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, Richard (MQ) wrote: YaST's hardware info says it's using pata_via for the hard discs. I think this is a bug in pata-via and have accordingly opened bug #327513 And indeed booting installer with 'brokenmodules=pata_via' seems to fix the problem. Not sure whether it's YaST or pata_via but one of them is the cause... (this added to bug report too) Maybe this is fixed by the solution to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=325552 I think not, but hard to test - it only occurs when booting the install DVD, default is to load pata_via after (correctly) detecting the mobo. The fix that you reference is to use a different kernel, but I don't feel like trying to modify the DVD to do so - too much of a challenge! I'll wait and see what the Novell / OpenSuSE team think next week, but my guess is a bug in the installer which loads the wrong module. Of course it's just possibly a bug in the module itself, maybe triggered by two discs of different DMA rate capability. -- Regards, Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, I have the following defined on 10.2 (works fine): /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto\ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 This doesn't work in 10.3: minas-morgul:~ # mount /mnt/dvd.crypta.x Password: ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument minas-morgul:~ # Yes, I have read the release notes regarding encrypted filesystems, and I don't understand: those notes are too brief and unexpected. How am I supposed to activate via /etc/init.d/boot.crypto a filesystem that is not connected at boot time, but later? How can I mount and umount voluntarily encrypted filesystms via fstab, as previously? Looks like the crypto modules aren't loaded - try (as root of course) # modprobe twofish # modprobe cryptoloop and then re-try your mount. -- Regards, Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
Richard (MQ) wrote: Looks like the crypto modules aren't loaded - try (as root of course) # modprobe twofish # modprobe cryptoloop and then re-try your mount. I should have also said - Assuming this works, add these lines to /etc/init.d/boot.local -- Regards, Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
Richard (MQ) wrote: Looks like the crypto modules aren't loaded - try (as root of course) # modprobe twofish # modprobe cryptoloop and then re-try your mount. I should have thought of that, but it doesn't work: minas-morgul:~ # mount /mnt/dvd.crypta.x Password: mount: you must specify the filesystem type There is no message in the kernel log, which I have just activated. My fstab has: /dev/dvd/mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto \ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 and it worked in 10.2. I'll try specifying the fs, which is XFS. [...] It fails again: minas-morgul:~ # mount /mnt/dvd.crypta.x Password: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so The kernel log says: Sep 23 15:26:15 minas-morgul kernel: SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block numbers, no debug enabled Sep 23 15:26:15 minas-morgul kernel: SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem Sep 23 15:26:17 minas-morgul kernel: XFS: bad magic number Sep 23 15:26:17 minas-morgul kernel: XFS: SB validate failed /var/log/kernel lines 1-5/5 (END) No good :-( I think it ignores the loopback. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
2007/9/23, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I have the following defined on 10.2 (works fine): /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto \ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 You must set this in the udev rules, because the removable devices are now managed by the udev rules, and the permissions by Policikit. The settings for removable devices in fstab make no sense. The only removable device that continues appearing in fstab is the floppy. Good Luck - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Miquel A. Noguera: El Domingo, 23 de Septiembre de 2007 08:55:11 Stephan Kulow escribió: Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Keith Goggin: 1. During installation 'add online repositories before installation' should NOT in my opinion be the default. It causes more trouble than it's worth and takes far too long to complete. Adding repositories after installation is a much faster and cleaner process. Sorry for you, it adds value for tons of other users. Here I see two good ideas but a wrong implementation of them. Really most users are willing a dvd install, as full featured, fast and simply as it is possible even in scenarios where no internet is available. Of course, the rest of users should be the tons of other users you're talking about, and they prefer a network install. IMHO, both are valid _separate_ concepts. The wrong thing is to force dvd users to perform a network install by default. openSUSE is not forcing anyone. We're suggesting it just by default - the DVD is only half of our packages. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 install not completing
Am Sonntag 23 September 2007 schrieb Glenn Holmer: On Sunday 23 September 2007 01:51, Stephan Kulow wrote: Yes, reiserfs notices the corruption, corrects it and everything continues. Just as ext3 does. xfs lets yast crash - but I'm not allowed to claim xfs bugs on this list. Earlier, you said You're using xfs as file system on all of these installations? Don't do that :) Is XFS a supported filesystem or not? Supported filesystem as in yast lets you choose it? Yes, it is. If there are bugs in it, we'll remove the support from it in yast though (unless of course upstream kernel developers have a fix for it). Which is different to what we do when there is a bug in ext3 or reiserfs - then we're more likely to fix the problem ourselves. There is always a balance in features we can support - we can offer them if we believe they do not cause more problems than value. But that does not mean a fix for a problem ariving from it isn't removing the offering of the feature. But in this very case it is very pointless to discuss as the problem was mainly caused by xfs being different than being buggy. Fortunately we noticed the file corruptions in the other file systems, so the crash when using xfs was easily verified as fixed in not causing file system corruptions. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] How can I edit the rpmdb?
How can I edit the rpmdb to remove the references to all the packages that are not installed. In the rpmdb appear as installed about 4 different versions from the same package. Two days ago I beginning to download the dvd iso of rc1, to make a a clean installation, via torrent, the only way to download the dvd, but the connection was very slowly, and I must waiting for about a week to complete the download. For the update via smart I can download 2.2 GB in about 10 hours. When a package are updated via rpm -U and in many cases with the parameter --replacepkgs (or via smart), the updated or replaced package do'nt disappear from the rpmdb, and I mean it's the cause for the crashing. More info: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309354 Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
Juan Erbes wrote: 2007/9/23, Carlos E. R. : Hi, I have the following defined on 10.2 (works fine): /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto \ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 You must set this in the udev rules, because the removable devices are now managed by the udev rules, and the permissions by Policikit. The settings for removable devices in fstab make no sense. The only removable device that continues appearing in fstab is the floppy. Could you please expand on this, giving exact instructions? Remember that it works in 10.2 perfectly. Has udev changed in 10.3 so much? There is no comment about this in the release notes. Can't DVDs be mounted manually, then? I don't believe it. This is something solely related to encryption changes, not udev. Proof: I mounted my external USB drive manually via fstab. No problem at all: LABEL=usb_sg60 /mnt/usb/usb_sg60 reiserfs \ noatime,user,noauto,acl,user_xattr 0 0 -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] corrupted packages in 1-CD KDE RC1
I've tried a clean installation from the 1-CD KDE for 10.3 RC1. Five packages are broken on the CD (classpath, aspell, aspell-en, cyrus-sasl, amarok). Somebody else must've run into this, but I just can't find the bugzilla report. Told the install routine to ignore those 5 problems, but then I hit this error: The root password could not be set. You might not be able to log in. Try setting it again? [Yes/No] Can't do anything that requires root password. Why is bluetooth enabled on machines without any bluetooth hardware? Gregg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] corrupted packages in 1-CD KDE RC1
Gregg Nicholas wrote: I've tried a clean installation from the 1-CD KDE for 10.3 RC1. Five packages are broken on the CD (classpath, aspell, aspell-en, cyrus-sasl, amarok). Somebody else must've run into this, but I just can't find the bugzilla report. Did you check the md5sum of the burned CD? -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
On Sunday 23 September 2007 08:58:31 am Carlos E. R. wrote: Juan Erbes wrote: 2007/9/23, Carlos E. R. : Hi, I have the following defined on 10.2 (works fine): /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto \ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 You must set this in the udev rules, because the removable devices are now managed by the udev rules, and the permissions by Policikit. The settings for removable devices in fstab make no sense. The only removable device that continues appearing in fstab is the floppy. Could you please expand on this, giving exact instructions? I guess this is one practical project for openSUSE wiki. Article that will explain use of udev, with few more articles with examples will be something that many will appreciate. Remember that it works in 10.2 perfectly. Has udev changed in 10.3 so much? There is no comment about this in the release notes. Can't DVDs be mounted manually, then? I don't believe it. This is something solely related to encryption changes, not udev. Proof: I mounted my external USB drive manually via fstab. No problem at all: LABEL=usb_sg60 /mnt/usb/usb_sg60 reiserfs \ noatime,user,noauto,acl,user_xattr 0 0 It can be mounted manually, but if you can configure udev rules to do that for you why not to use them. Reduction of typing is the primary reason for existence of fstab, modprobe.conf, etc. Problem with udev is that it is new and not really explained on openSUSE example. -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can I edit the rpmdb?
* Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-23-07 09:57]: How can I edit the rpmdb to remove the references to all the packages that are not installed. In the rpmdb appear as installed about 4 different versions from the same package. man rpm search for rebuilddb rpm --rebuilddb [as root] -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
Rajko M. wrote: It can be mounted manually, but if you can configure udev rules to do that for you why not to use them. Reduction of typing is the primary reason for existence of fstab, modprobe.conf, etc. Problem with udev is that it is new and not really explained on openSUSE example. Why should I? Remember, this is an encrypted DVD we are talking about. It has to be mounted manually because: a) udev can not know it is encrypted, nor how it is encrypted. b) I have to type the password. The problem now is that mount fails in 10.3 and not in 10.2. That is the problem at hand. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] couldn't launch gnome-settings-daemon after update to RC1
2007/9/23, James Ogley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you have gstreamer010-plugins-base installed? Can you please provide the output of ldd /usr/lib/control-center-2.0/gnome-settings-daemon | grep gst ? libgstaudio-0.10.so.0 = not found libgstbase-0.10.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgstbase-0.10.so.0 (0xb7058000) libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0 = not found libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 (0xb6fb9000) This packages are installed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently gstreamer010-plugins-base was not updated during the upgrade, so I did it manually and it works now. Thanks for the help. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=224462 , EVMS installation was disabled in 10.2 and was to be reenabled in 10.3. That was the plan at that point of time - but seems we forgot to update it. I'd like to try it in RC1, but it is apparently still not enabled. Is there any way I can enable it myself? EVMS has caused us too much trouble and is not maintained upstream anymore, so we disabled it for 10.3 as well, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpyNtqNlAIQX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] xen on 10.3-B3]
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:36 -0600, Stephen Shaw wrote:
Peter Sjoberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/07 7:18 PM
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 00:00 +0200, Hans Witvliet wrote:
Anybody on the list trying xen on 10.3-B3?
I have a same/similar problem
I downloaded the 10.3 x86_64bit dvd and was going to add a new domU on
my 10.2 system but nothing seems to work.
I have a OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 AMD AM2 system running xen. Installing
10.2 domU works ok when done over network or iso image but I can't even
get the install to start when trying 10.3 beta 3.
Your first problem is that you are using beta3. :(
There were some problems with the install, beta 3 plus clean that up some.
RC1
seems to be working ok. I haven't done tons of testing on it yet, but
haven't run into
any problems. Did a few amount on beta3 plus and that seemed to be ok.
Well, I still have the same problem, at least when using the .iso file
as source, it can't find the kernel.
I looked in y2log (3000 lines just for this install) and found some
things referring to descr/packages. It seems like on 10.3 it's no
package file, just package.{de,en,fr,...}.gz and when the 10.2
installer looks it fails with a missing package.
Checked on the 10.2 dvd and there it's a package file so there it's ok.
Remember that it's a 10.2 installer looking on a 10.3 install dvd, that
might be why it doesn't work directly.
Since auto extracting the kernel doesn't work I did it manually and did
a Other os install. It worked better but still no go, the console
window starts up and shows a few things before it just hangs.
The last message before hanging:
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
NET: Registered protocol family 1
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/768
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/832
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vif/0
Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 50MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
SCSI subsystem initialized
st: Version 20070203, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
EDD information not available.
NET: Registered protocol family 17
loop: module loaded
xen-vbd: registered block device major 3
blkfront: hda: barriers enabled
hda: unknown partition table
blkfront: hdb: barriers enabled
hdb: unknown partition table
netfront: Initialising virtual ethernet driver.
netfront: device eth0 has flipping receive path.
squashfs: version 3.2-r2 (2007/01/15) Phillip Lougher
I don't know what to look for here but for me 10.3 is still a no-go, at
least as long as you have a 10.2 xen host and want to create a 10.3 as a
guest with yast (didn't test 100% manual install, don't know that much)
Note: HVM opensuse guests do not work. I believe it has something to do with
isolinux
Can't fail that since my Gigabyte M61P-S3 mobo doesn't support HMV (bios
issue, no update available)
Help that helps.
Stephen Shaw
PS. There is also a #opensuse-xen channel on freenode. I try to hang out
there as much as
possible, but do read passed messages.
Did just join there but it was just me and Uranellus there, will try
sometime during business hours
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Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
Rajko M. wrote The problem can be slow server response. I had that few times on normal days. Press Retry few times and installation continues. IMHO, there is no ideal solution. If default is to try few times before pops the window with message asking user decision, than with bad repository it will take forever to download files. Why not handle it the same way as the reboot messages? They say System will reboot in xx seconds. [OK] [Cancel] and automatically count down. Why not have a message like: Downloading xyz.rpm failed because of connection timeout. Will retry downloading in xx seconds. This way, a user sitting in front of the system will get a quick reply from the installer and someone that installs over night is also happy. Regards nordi - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
The problem now is that mount fails in 10.3 and not in 10.2. That is the problem at hand. I'll leave the udev stuff to those who understand it - meanwhile: 1. Symptoms are of mismatched data / password (modules are loaded now!) Do you have the md5 sum or similar for the encrypted file (see below)? It may be corrupt / dirty. Try cleaning re-inserting? Is it the correct password? Check again! 2. Try manually mounting. As root, something like: mkdir /mnt/dvd mount /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd (maybe needs -t iso9660 -o ro as well?) losetup -e twofish256 /dev/loop0 /mnt/dvd (or /mnt/filename ?) mount -o ro -t xfs /dev/loop0 /mnt/dvd.crypta.x I use encrypted CDs and DVDs too, usually I generate a random file and loop-mount it, save an accompanying md5 to check if it refuses a mount. Usually it's because it's scratched or dirty, or I have the wrong password. HTH -- Regards, Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] couldn't launch gnome-settings-daemon after update to RC1
Robert Kaiser escribió: Gabriel . wrote: This packages are installed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently gstreamer010-plugins-base was not updated during the upgrade, so I did it manually and it works now. You realize that .pm packages are PackMan packages and not official openSUSE packages, right? Robert Kaiser Yeah, I know. I didn't realize that they weren't replaced. Regards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3 [solved]
Ok... it works. All of them. It was my fault. Between two of the tests I forgot I had replaced the encrypted dvd with the 10.3 dvd. :-) I use encrypted CDs and DVDs too, usually I generate a random file and loop-mount it, save an accompanying md5 to check if it refuses a mount. Usually it's because it's scratched or dirty, or I have the wrong password. I don't follow this part :-? Getting a bit OT but: I create a regular file of rubbish, and loop-mount it with crypto before generating a filesystem and finally mounting normally: $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=file.img count=700 bs=1048576 (i.e. owner=user) # losetup -e twofish256 /dev/loop0 file.img # mkfs.ext3 /dev/loop0 # mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/loop0 mountpoint Copy what I want to keep to mountpoint then: # umount mountpoint # losetup -d /dev/loop0 $ md5sum file.img file.md5 (i.e. owner=user again) Then write file.img and file.md5 to cd using k3b. Easy to test integrity without having to crypto-mount: $ cd cd-mountpoint $ md5sum -c file.md5 And to mount for reading # losetup -e twofish256 /dev/loop0 cd-mountpoint/file.img # mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/loop0 mountpoint Not too hard to script these steps, except for the problem with cd mount-point names under /media. Of course, same idea for DVDs. I generally use this scheme for backups of documents, emails etc. - not spectacularly secret, but potentially useful to an ID thief. Most ordinary punters won't be able to read it, but of course GCHQ / NSA etc. wouldn't take very long if they ever wanted to... A lot of people take essentially no backups, and many of those who do take them leave unprotected data lying around. Not very sensible really! -- Regards, Richard (MQ) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Regarding KDE4..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The fraction from KDE4 is for testing? Dolphin did only start from console... Is there something expected? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG9qtJX5/X5X6LpDgRApCsAJ42SvZYAsCEqwaPHmOnY6ApQN1SqgCgzzKy Ck/ZCS47e0RI1QiMts6uCrk= =/IMz -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] RC1 i386 Installation
On Sunday 23 September 2007 11:07:23 am nordi wrote: Rajko M. wrote The problem can be slow server response. I had that few times on normal days. Press Retry few times and installation continues. IMHO, there is no ideal solution. If default is to try few times before pops the window with message asking user decision, than with bad repository it will take forever to download files. Why not handle it the same way as the reboot messages? They say System will reboot in xx seconds. [OK] [Cancel] and automatically count down. Why not have a message like: Downloading xyz.rpm failed because of connection timeout. Will retry downloading in xx seconds. This way, a user sitting in front of the system will get a quick reply from the installer and someone that installs over night is also happy. Even better, it retries later with that package, and uses time to download some other package from the list, but either way it is not implemented right now, so feel free and add this to the: http://en.opensuse.org/Feature_Wishlist/YAST_related -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] corrupted packages in 1-CD KDE RC1
On Sunday 23 September 2007 20:38:07 Gregg Nicholas wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: Did you check the md5sum of the burned CD? the md5sum of the iso was okay. Normally, I check the CD during installation - but that option doesn't appear during install (as reported by others in this group) Discovered that I can check the cd with: dd if=/dev/sr0 | head -c 724422656 | md5sum You were right - the CD was at fault. Reburned, tested, and reinstalled with no errors (but it still thinks I have bluetooth and doesn't work with any of my 3 wifi devices). Now, that's funny, that one method of testing the md5 gives correct and the other incorrect. -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ad: [opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
EVMS has caused us too much trouble and is not maintained upstream anymore, so we disabled it for 10.3 as well, Is EVMS a dead project? We use it on SLES10.1 servers at work, it's not good news if EVMS disapears... cu / birger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3 [solved]
On Sunday 23 September 2007 20:06:01 Richard (MQ) wrote: I don't follow this part :-? Getting a bit OT but: But very interesting, for us and somebody else wanting to do encrypted backups. Ah! Before I forget: I wrote to '/etc/sysconfig/kernel' this line: MODULES_LOADED_ON_BOOT=cryptoloop twofish I think this should work to load those two modules instead of using boot.local I create a regular file of rubbish, and loop-mount it with crypto before generating a filesystem and finally mounting normally: $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=file.img count=700 bs=1048576 (i.e. owner=user) /dev/urandom, /dev/random... what's the difference? ... (un)signed, perhaps? # losetup -e twofish256 /dev/loop0 file.img # mkfs.ext3 /dev/loop0 # mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/loop0 mountpoint Copy what I want to keep to mountpoint then: # umount mountpoint # losetup -d /dev/loop0 $ md5sum file.img file.md5 (i.e. owner=user again) Then write file.img and file.md5 to cd using k3b. Easy to test integrity without having to crypto-mount: $ cd cd-mountpoint $ md5sum -c file.md5 Curious! And to mount for reading # losetup -e twofish256 /dev/loop0 cd-mountpoint/file.img # mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/loop0 mountpoint Not too hard to script these steps, except for the problem with cd mount-point names under /media. Of course, same idea for DVDs. I always mount manually, so I don't have the /media names problem. My procedure is simpler. First I create an empty file: nimrodel:~ # nice dd if=/dev/zero of=crypta_f_dvd \ bs=1MB count=4700 4700+0 records in 4700+0 records out 47 bytes (4.7 GB) copied, 99.32 s, 47.3 MB/s (Watch line wrap: I'm using kmail now and i don't know how to tell it not to wrap) I didn't think to randomize it, as I suppose the encryption thing will do its work. The file has the exact size of a DVD image. Then I encrypt it via loop: nimrodel:~ # losetup -T -e twofish256 /dev/loop2 crypta_f_dvd Password: Retype password: nimrodel:~ # file -s /dev/loop2 /dev/loop2: data And I create the XFS filesystem on the loop device: nimrodel:~ # mkfs -V -t xfs -L CryptoDVD_MM /dev/loop2 nimrodel:~ # file -s /dev/loop2 /dev/loop2: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs) And that's all. I can mount that filesystem via fstab (after the losetup thing is freed): /imgs/crypta_f_dvd /mnt/crypta.x.dvdxfs \ noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 In this way, I can simply copy the files I want to backup to the mounted image in /mnt/crypta.x.dvd just using any tool I want. When done, I umount it, then burn the image directly using growisofs or k3b. I can test the dvd: minas-morgul:~ # losetup -e twofish256 /dev/loop2 /dev/hdc Password: minas-morgul:~ # file -s /dev/loop2 /dev/loop2: SGI XFS filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs) This is the step I should have done this morning, by the way. I generally use this scheme for backups of documents, emails etc. - not spectacularly secret, but potentially useful to an ID thief. Most ordinary punters won't be able to read it, but of course GCHQ / NSA etc. wouldn't take very long if they ever wanted to... Of course :-) A lot of people take essentially no backups, and many of those who do take them leave unprotected data lying around. Not very sensible really! True... I don't encrypt every thing. My filesystem is plain, but there are somethings I keep encrypted. I have been bitten with a corrupted filesystem just while I was adding a new HD to make fast backups - Murphys law :-( The problem nowdays is that DVDs are too small for making backups of a 300 GiB HD :-( -- Cheers, Carlos E.R. (from RC1) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] /etc/init.d
On Sunday 23 September 2007, Donn Washburn wrote: Hey Group; SuSE 10.3 Beta2 I use runlevel 3 just for info. I have recently had a problem with my printer which was found readily by Yast2. The problem is that every time I go to print I needed to run Yast2. I think I have found the problem. In /etc/init.d/rc3.d there is mentioned in the README a S20lpd linked to ../lpd. But there is no ../lpd script. The README mentions /etc/init,d/lpd start and /etc/init,d/lpd stop but there is no lpd script. lpq sees a print job waiting. lprm will remove so cups seems to be OK Printing is done by cups AFAIK in 10.3a* no lpd script in /etc/init.d on this box and printing works no problem Pete -- SuSE Linux 10.3-Alpha3. (Linux is like a wigwam - no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can I edit the rpmdb?
2007/9/23, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-23-07 09:57]: How can I edit the rpmdb to remove the references to all the packages that are not installed. In the rpmdb appear as installed about 4 different versions from the same package. man rpm search for rebuilddb rpm --rebuilddb [as root] Yes, I make it many times a day, but it not resolves the problem. The rebuilddb does not remove the references to the old packages do'nt present in the system (upgraded many times). For example now I has rebuilding the rpmdb, and it terminated with: rpmdb: page 851: illegal page type or format rpmdb: PANIC: Argumento inválido error: db4 error(-30977) from dbcursor-c_get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from db-close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv-close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse-factory] xen on 10.3-B3]
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 12:06 -0400, Peter Sjoberg wrote:
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:36 -0600, Stephen Shaw wrote:
Peter Sjoberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/19/07 7:18 PM
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 00:00 +0200, Hans Witvliet wrote:
Anybody on the list trying xen on 10.3-B3?
I have a same/similar problem
I downloaded the 10.3 x86_64bit dvd and was going to add a new domU on
my 10.2 system but nothing seems to work.
I have a OpenSuse 10.2 x86_64 AMD AM2 system running xen. Installing
10.2 domU works ok when done over network or iso image but I can't even
get the install to start when trying 10.3 beta 3.
Your first problem is that you are using beta3. :(
There were some problems with the install, beta 3 plus clean that up some.
RC1
seems to be working ok. I haven't done tons of testing on it yet, but
haven't run into
any problems. Did a few amount on beta3 plus and that seemed to be ok.
Well, I still have the same problem, at least when using the .iso file
as source, it can't find the kernel.
I looked in y2log (3000 lines just for this install) and found some
things referring to descr/packages. It seems like on 10.3 it's no
package file, just package.{de,en,fr,...}.gz and when the 10.2
installer looks it fails with a missing package.
Checked on the 10.2 dvd and there it's a package file so there it's ok.
Remember that it's a 10.2 installer looking on a 10.3 install dvd, that
might be why it doesn't work directly.
Since auto extracting the kernel doesn't work I did it manually and did
a Other os install. It worked better but still no go, the console
window starts up and shows a few things before it just hangs.
The last message before hanging:
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
NET: Registered protocol family 1
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/768
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/832
XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vif/0
Freeing unused kernel memory: 188k freed
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 50MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
SCSI subsystem initialized
st: Version 20070203, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256
BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
EDD information not available.
NET: Registered protocol family 17
loop: module loaded
xen-vbd: registered block device major 3
blkfront: hda: barriers enabled
hda: unknown partition table
blkfront: hdb: barriers enabled
hdb: unknown partition table
netfront: Initialising virtual ethernet driver.
netfront: device eth0 has flipping receive path.
squashfs: version 3.2-r2 (2007/01/15) Phillip Lougher
I don't know what to look for here but for me 10.3 is still a no-go, at
least as long as you have a 10.2 xen host and want to create a 10.3 as a
guest with yast (didn't test 100% manual install, don't know that much)
Note: HVM opensuse guests do not work. I believe it has something to do
with isolinux
Can't fail that since my Gigabyte M61P-S3 mobo doesn't support HMV (bios
issue, no update available)
Help that helps.
Stephen Shaw
PS. There is also a #opensuse-xen channel on freenode. I try to hang out
there as much as
possible, but do read passed messages.
Did just join there but it was just me and Uranellus there, will try
sometime during business hours
Will do some testing monday, at work.
If a 10.3-DOM-0 only runs 10.3-DOM-u's it's certainly a bugzilla entry.
Current 10.1 and 10.2 dom-0's run every kind of DOM-U, not just
10.1-dom-u, but ubuntu and freebsd as well.
The feature i'm anxious to test, is 32-images on a 64-bit machine.
Hans
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Re: [opensuse-factory] How can I edit the rpmdb?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-23 at 19:51 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: rpm --rebuilddb [as root] Yes, I make it many times a day, but it not resolves the problem. The rebuilddb does not remove the references to the old packages do'nt present in the system (upgraded many times). For example now I has rebuilding the rpmdb, and it terminated with: rpmdb: page 851: illegal page type or format rpmdb: PANIC: Argumento inválido error: db4 error(-30977) from dbcursor-c_get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from db-close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv-close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery I had a similar problem time ago, reported in bugzilla 225630. There was a database problem upstream, outside of the rpm code, which I don't know if was even investigated or solved. What I did in the end was finding at what package the rpm command crashed, then I forced removal of the package which install made rpm crash and reinstalled it again, to force the database to clear. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG9vNdtTMYHG2NR9URAgq0AJsHuG8R/UiVWQcJSyawri+DaUdShgCfSJO/ jg5I+F/IBmOazitEMCQMcyg= =DcvH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
2007/9/23, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Juan Erbes wrote: 2007/9/23, Carlos E. R. : Hi, I have the following defined on 10.2 (works fine): /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd.crypta.x auto \ ro,noauto,user,loop,encryption=twofish256 0 0 You must set this in the udev rules, because the removable devices are now managed by the udev rules, and the permissions by Policikit. The settings for removable devices in fstab make no sense. The only removable device that continues appearing in fstab is the floppy. Could you please expand on this, giving exact instructions? Remember that it works in 10.2 perfectly. Has udev changed in 10.3 so much? There is no comment about this in the release notes. Can't DVDs be mounted manually, then? I don't believe it. udev has changed with the kernel 2.6.22: /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/cha.udev.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.boot.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.debug.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.drivers.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.files.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.kernel.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.moreinfo.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.persdev.html /usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/sec.udev.rules.html You can continue to mount by hand. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ad: [opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:06:52PM +0200, Birger Kollstrand wrote: EVMS has caused us too much trouble and is not maintained upstream anymore, so we disabled it for 10.3 as well, Is EVMS a dead project? Yes, IBM has pretty much abondoned it :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] /etc/init.d
peter nikolic wrote: On Sunday 23 September 2007, Donn Washburn wrote: Hey Group; SuSE 10.3 Beta2 I use runlevel 3 just for info. I have recently had a problem with my printer which was found readily by Yast2. The problem is that every time I go to print I needed to run Yast2. I think I have found the problem. In /etc/init.d/rc3.d there is mentioned in the README a S20lpd linked to ../lpd. But there is no ../lpd script. The README mentions /etc/init,d/lpd start and /etc/init,d/lpd stop but there is no lpd script. lpq sees a print job waiting. lprm will remove so cups seems to be OK Printing is done by cups AFAIK in 10.3a* no lpd script in /etc/init.d on this box and printing works no problem Pete Thanks Pete; Well then check out their README in /etc/init.d which say lpd start and any note about rc#.d which shows ../lpd. Which is not even in /etc/init.d. And if anyone can explain why Yast2HardwarePrinter has to be run to get it to print. It may be a problem with Yast2 are /etc/sysconfig not getting set. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : [EMAIL PROTECTED] VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador http://counter.li.org #279316 Did you know? The transistor was invented by three white men. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can I edit the rpmdb?
2007/9/23, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-23 at 19:51 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: rpm --rebuilddb [as root] Yes, I make it many times a day, but it not resolves the problem. The rebuilddb does not remove the references to the old packages do'nt present in the system (upgraded many times). For example now I has rebuilding the rpmdb, and it terminated with: rpmdb: page 851: illegal page type or format rpmdb: PANIC: Argumento inválido error: db4 error(-30977) from dbcursor-c_get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from db-close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv-close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery I had a similar problem time ago, reported in bugzilla 225630. There was a database problem upstream, outside of the rpm code, which I don't know if was even investigated or solved. What I did in the end was finding at what package the rpm command crashed, then I forced removal of the package which install made rpm crash and reinstalled it again, to force the database to clear. I will use a frontend to edit the db. I need to upgrade more than 1200 packages, and the fail appear with many of the packages. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] /etc/init.d
Sid Boyce wrote: Donn Washburn wrote: Hey Group; SuSE 10.3 Beta2 lpq sees a print job waiting. lprm will remove so cups seems to be OK lpd? Check you haven't selected lpd in YaST as cups is used exclusively. LPD is there as an option to connect to remote servers that don't support IPP. Sid spotted my Senior Moment problem. Not lpd but cups and it is there. Both in /etc/init.d/rc3.d and ../cups. Proof you cannot trust what you read. The README is broken! As they say --- Never Mind! By the way cups is selected in that run level as S11cups. ps ax | grep cups output is included but still no printing. -- 73 de Donn Washburn 307 Savoy Street Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sugar Land, TX 77478 LL# 1.281.242.3256 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : [EMAIL PROTECTED] VoIP via Gizmo: bmw_87kbike / via Skype: n5xwbg BMW MOA #: 4146 - Ambassador http://counter.li.org #279316 1455 tty1 S 0:00 /tmp/cups-root/bin/notifier/testnotify testnotify:// 2833 tty2 R+ 0:00 grep cups 3312 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd 11083 tty1 S 0:15 ../scheduler/cupsd -c /tmp/cups-root/cupsd.conf -f 11103 tty1 S 0:00 /tmp/cups-root/bin/notifier/testnotify testnotify:// 18162 tty1 S 0:00 /tmp/cups-root/bin/notifier/testnotify testnotify:// 22336 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip 16 donn RAID Information - Linux RAID-5 Algorithms 1 job-uuid=urn:uuid:88d6ec26-0151-3d39-54eb-1d10ac6d784e 22341 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip 16 donn RAID Information - Linux RAID-5 Algorithms 1 job-uuid=urn:uuid:88d6ec26-0151-3d39-54eb-1d10ac6d784e 22342 ?S 0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip 16 donn RAID Information - Linux RAID-5 Algorithms 1 job-uuid=urn:uuid:88d6ec26-0151-3d39-54eb-1d10ac6d784e
Ad: Ad: [opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
ok. Thanks for the information. So we need to find a new solution when the next SLES arrives. Great. 2007/9/24, Greg KH [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:06:52PM +0200, Birger Kollstrand wrote: EVMS has caused us too much trouble and is not maintained upstream anymore, so we disabled it for 10.3 as well, Is EVMS a dead project? Yes, IBM has pretty much abondoned it :( - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] /etc/init.d
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-23 at 18:39 -0500, Donn Washburn wrote: By the way cups is selected in that run level as S11cups. ps ax | grep cups output is included but still no printing. Check cup's logs. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG9wwRtTMYHG2NR9URAsqoAJ94a0QnHyms37ISRKN46gCZQlj//wCfSuJ5 DdiU4CR/qWqh2rRwyhYQ31U= =rrZ6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can I edit the rpmdb?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-23 at 20:28 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: What I did in the end was finding at what package the rpm command crashed, then I forced removal of the package which install made rpm crash and reinstalled it again, to force the database to clear. I will use a frontend to edit the db. I need to upgrade more than 1200 packages, and the fail appear with many of the packages. If you find such a front end, tell us! :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG9wxatTMYHG2NR9URAtwlAJ44PGy54JrMRpgn0Lkz6TzOrrRg5ACfRFSR VqtZ8jir1UaGA1sSArMnFHc= =GzcS -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Encrypted filesystem problem in 10.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2007-09-23 at 20:21 -0300, Juan Erbes wrote: You can continue to mount by hand. Good, you scared the life out of me! ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG9wy1tTMYHG2NR9URAhnSAKCRwzCBjDUH7Rk3GJ773n6ywKdsVACeNCLS 8Z/N+4Zq1mejnHV8hCqWxmw= =EPuq -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] beagle-thunderbird has too many dependencies.
linux-kw92:~ # zypper in MozillaThunderbird beagle-thunderbird * Reading repository 'Main Update Repository' cache * Reading repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS)' cache * Reading repository 'Main Repository (OSS)' cache * Reading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (QEMU)' cache * Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3' cache * Reading installed packages [100%] The following NEW packages are going to be installed: MozillaThunderbird art-sharp2 beagle-thunderbird beagle-gui control-center2 eel evolution-data-server gail gconf-sharp2 glade-sharp2 gnome-desktop gnome-keyring gnome-main-menu gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-sharp2 gnome-vfs-sharp2 gtk2-engines libbonoboui libcroco libgnome-certauth0 libgnomecanvas libgnomecups libgnomekbd libgnomeprint libgnomeprintui libgnomesu libgnomeui libgtop libgtop-2_0-7 librsvg libsoup libssui libwnck-1-22 libwnck metacity nautilus yast2-control-center-gnome bundle-lang-gnome-en gnome-audio gnome-icon-theme gnome-themes gnome2-user-docs tango-icon-theme Overall download size: 46.4 M. After the operation, additional 123.4 M will be used. Continue? [yes/no]: n *** It seems to much. linux-kw92:~ # zypper in MozillaThunderbird * Reading repository 'Main Update Repository' cache * Reading repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS)' cache * Reading repository 'Main Repository (OSS)' cache * Reading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (QEMU)' cache * Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3' cache * Reading installed packages [100%] The following NEW packages are going to be installed: MozillaThunderbird gail gnome-keyring libbonoboui libgnomecanvas libgnomeui gnome-icon-theme Overall download size: 12.9 M. After the operation, additional 39.3 M will be used. Continue? [yes/no]: n *** linux-kw92:~ # zypper in beagle-thunderbird * Reading repository 'Main Update Repository' cache * Reading repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS)' cache * Reading repository 'Main Repository (OSS)' cache * Reading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (QEMU)' cache * Reading repository 'openSUSE-10.3-OSS-KDE 10.3' cache * Reading installed packages [100%] The following NEW packages are going to be installed: MozillaThunderbird art-sharp2 beagle-gui beagle-thunderbird control-center2 eel evolution-data-server gail gconf-sharp2 glade-sharp2 gnome-desktop gnome-keyring gnome-main-menu gnome-menus gnome-panel gnome-sharp2 gnome-vfs-sharp2 gtk2-engines libbonoboui libcroco libgnome-certauth0 libgnomecanvas libgnomecups libgnomekbd libgnomeprint libgnomeprintui libgnomesu libgnomeui libgtop libgtop-2_0-7 librsvg libsoup libssui libwnck-1-22 libwnck metacity nautilus yast2-control-center-gnome bundle-lang-gnome-en gnome-audio gnome-icon-theme gnome-themes gnome2-user-docs tango-icon-theme Overall download size: 46.4 M. After the operation, additional 123.4 M will be used. Continue? [yes/no]: n *** Information for package beagle-thunderbird: Repository: Main Repository (OSS) Name: beagle-thunderbird Version: 0.2.18-21 Arch: i586 Installed: No Status: not installed Installed Size: 144.1 K Summary: Thunderbird plugin for the Desktop search application Beagle *** Who said that beagle(-thunderbird) is a resource hog? It is only 144.1 K. Though to have it you need 123.4 M of other software, where without detailed checking: control-center2 evolution-data-server gnome-desktop gnome-main-menu gnome-menus gnome-panel metacity nautilus yast2-control-center-gnome bundle-lang-gnome-en gnome-audio seems to be essential for the package to work ;-) -- Regards, Rajko. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Fan stays on constantly..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The thermic control does not work anymore. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-29-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG906oX5/X5X6LpDgRAkhkAJ9PkUoALbpk9C4eN3O43rBYdF3t7wCfToyH 7pNlipM3JSnuxHm5orrUgCI= =MnSK -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Wireless Intel 4965AGN
Hi, I installed open suse 10.3 beta 3. After a week I managed to have the wireless working. Yesterday gnome update downloaded heaps of updates (I imagine is because of RC1) and now my wireless just won't work any more. I have it in manual mode as I couldn't manage to make it work with the Network Manager. when I do ifup wlan0 I get the next trace: wlan0 device: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61) wlan0 warning: WPA configured but may be unsupported wlan0 warning: by this device wlan0 starting wpa_supplicant ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported WEXT auth param 5 value 0x1 - Starting DHCP Client Daemon on wlan0... . . . . . no IP address yet... backgrounding. settings are BOOTPROTO='dhcp' BROADCAST='' ETHTOOL_OPTIONS='' IFPLUGD_PRIORITY='10' IPADDR='' MTU='1500' NAME='Intel WLAN controller' NETMASK='' NETWORK='' REMOTE_IPADDR='' STARTMODE='auto' USERCONTROL='no' WIRELESS_AP='' WIRELESS_AUTH_MODE='psk' WIRELESS_BITRATE='auto' WIRELESS_CA_CERT='' WIRELESS_CHANNEL='' WIRELESS_CLIENT_CERT='' WIRELESS_CLIENT_KEY='' WIRELESS_CLIENT_KEY_PASSWORD='' WIRELESS_DEFAULT_KEY='0' WIRELESS_EAP_AUTH='' WIRELESS_EAP_MODE='' WIRELESS_ESSID='_MI_NETWORK_01_' WIRELESS_FREQUENCY='' WIRELESS_KEY='' WIRELESS_KEY_0='' WIRELESS_KEY_1='' WIRELESS_KEY_2='' WIRELESS_KEY_3='' WIRELESS_KEY_LENGTH='128' WIRELESS_MODE='Managed' WIRELESS_NICK='' WIRELESS_NWID='' WIRELESS_PEAP_VERSION='' WIRELESS_POWER='no' WIRELESS_WPA_ANONID='' WIRELESS_WPA_IDENTITY='' WIRELESS_WPA_PASSWORD='' WIRELESS_WPA_PSK='pskkey' thanks in advance Andres -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Slow to start applications
Hi, I installed open suse 10.3 beta 3. It was updated yesterday through gnome update, so now I am running kernel 2.6.22.5-23-default. Even before the update any program would be launched after 10-20 seconds (even a terminal window). Any ideas? I have a laptop Asus G1S Intel Core2 Duo NVIDIA 8600GT Wireless intel 4965AGN Thanks in advance Andres -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bug 97414 in kdesu (Suse 10.2)
Michael Ayers wrote: If the OP opens kmenuedit and places /usr/bin/ in front of smart on the command line kdesu will work as before, well it did here anyway. Mike Thanks for this but, unfortunately, the above doesn't work here. I'll just have to run the Manager from the command line. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] This is beyond funny - what a riot!!
Fred A. Miller wrote: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=741891990 Good one, Fred. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Re: Partition Table Woes]
On Saturday 22 September 2007 23:40, Jerry Houston wrote: Rajko M. wrote: ... The /dev/sda2 is marked active. If generic boot loader is in /dev/sda MBR, and grub is installed in /dev/sda2 boot sector, it should pick up and boot from there. So we looking: - is generic boot code in MBR of /dev/sda dd if=/dev/sda of=sda-mbr bs=512 count=1 strings -n 10 sda-mbr Should give this: Invalid partition table No operating system Error loading operating system openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings -n 10 sda-mbr No active partition Disk read error No operating system Invalid CHS read - is GRUB installed in /dev/sda2 dd if=/dev/sda2 of=sda2-mbr bs=512 count=1 strings sda2-mbr It should list in last lines: GRUB Geom Hard Disk Read Error openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings sda2-mbr ZRrK D|f1 GRUB Geom Hard Disk Read Error You can try tests on /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1. On /dev/sdb: openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings -n 10 sdb-mbr Invalid partition table No operating system Error loading operating system On /dev/sdb1: openSuSE-desktop:/ # strings sdb1-mbr (apparently there were no results from this) Does any of this suggest what's wrong? Yes. sda generic DOS MBR (it's a guess as I would have to dig to find one) sda2 grub MBR sdb generic openSUSE MBR sdb1 nothing ? The error Invalid partition table that you get trying to boot from hard disk without CD, comes from generic MBR installed on second HD. Generic MBR can find active partition, but it is not designed to find second HD. That means GRUB stage1 (boot record) on sda2 is called and redirects booting to sdb MBR that has no active partition and declares Invalid partition table and quits. I missed some discussion so I don't know where is installed system that has to be booted, so I don't know how to remedy the problem. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slow to start applications
Andrés, On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 14:41 +0800, Andrés Cosa wrote: Hi, I installed open suse 10.3 beta 3. It was updated yesterday through gnome update, so now I am running kernel 2.6.22.5-23-default. Even before the update any program would be launched after 10-20 seconds (even a terminal window). Any ideas? Are you using GNOME? If so, add the name of your machine to /etc/hosts, eg. 127.0.0.1 localhost mblxtv01 I have a laptop Asus G1S Intel Core2 Duo NVIDIA 8600GT Wireless intel 4965AGN Thanks in advance Andres Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slow to start applications
Should probably add that this was a known bug and will be fixed for the release. On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 14:41 +0800, Andrés Cosa wrote: Hi, I installed open suse 10.3 beta 3. It was updated yesterday through gnome update, so now I am running kernel 2.6.22.5-23-default. Even before the update any program would be launched after 10-20 seconds (even a terminal window). Any ideas? I have a laptop Asus G1S Intel Core2 Duo NVIDIA 8600GT Wireless intel 4965AGN Thanks in advance Andres -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slow to start applications
Grate. Thanks for that! I am a bit new with linux as you may have realised. Magnus Boman wrote: Andrés, On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 14:41 +0800, Andrés Cosa wrote: Hi, I installed open suse 10.3 beta 3. It was updated yesterday through gnome update, so now I am running kernel 2.6.22.5-23-default. Even before the update any program would be launched after 10-20 seconds (even a terminal window). Any ideas? Are you using GNOME? If so, add the name of your machine to /etc/hosts, eg. 127.0.0.1 localhost mblxtv01 I have a laptop Asus G1S Intel Core2 Duo NVIDIA 8600GT Wireless intel 4965AGN Thanks in advance Andres Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Slow to start applications
Andrés, On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 17:02 +0800, Andrés Cosa wrote: Grate. Thanks for that! I am a bit new with linux as you may have realised. No, nothing from your email gave that away. But welcome to this wonderful world :-) Cheers, Magnus Magnus Boman wrote: Andrés, On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 14:41 +0800, Andrés Cosa wrote: Hi, I installed open suse 10.3 beta 3. It was updated yesterday through gnome update, so now I am running kernel 2.6.22.5-23-default. Even before the update any program would be launched after 10-20 seconds (even a terminal window). Any ideas? Are you using GNOME? If so, add the name of your machine to /etc/hosts, eg. 127.0.0.1 localhost mblxtv01 I have a laptop Asus G1S Intel Core2 Duo NVIDIA 8600GT Wireless intel 4965AGN Thanks in advance Andres Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] PCI USRobotics FAX/Modem for Linux.
Doug McGarrett wrote: On Saturday 22 September 2007 23:41, Kenneth Schneider wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 23:24 -0400, BandiPat wrote: On Saturday 22 September 2007, Fred A. Miller wrote: 'Never needed to FAX much till now, so I've looking for a NON-Win modem and found this one USR has made. It's a tad pricey, but should work well, just in case someone else is in need of one. 'Ordered tonight. Fred --- And a PDF or word processing file won't do for them through email? Almost seems a bit archaic to have to resort to fax on a land line modem, doesn't it? Lee Wouldn't it be cheaper to just pick up an old fax machine? -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 For some reason, doctors and pharmacies live by FAX. You'd think that there would be a world-wide medical data-base, but something about privacy (read insurance companies) keeps that from happening. There may be other outfits that live by FAX. There used to be a program for Windows that would let you send a FAX if you had a telephone modem. There may be one for LINUX. I don't know if you could receive on the computer. Probably nobody is still using a telephone modem. --doug While encrypted email would certainly fix the privacy issue, some people are still stuck in the past. Also some, like the vet I take my pets to, have stopped using email because of problems with viruses etc. Of course, the solution to that problem is Linux. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Yast problem
I have a problem with online update or software in yast.. YaST got signal 11 at YCP file OnlineUpdateCallbacks.ycp:524 /sbin/yast2: line 386: 8067 Segmentatiefout $ybindir/y2base $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
GJ Eldering schreef: I have a problem with online update or software in yast.. YaST got signal 11 at YCP file OnlineUpdateCallbacks.ycp:524 /sbin/yast2: line 386: 8067 Segmentatiefout $ybindir/y2base $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS Use ; OS:Linux 2.6.22.5-29-bigsmp i686 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 RC1(i586) KDE: 3.5.7 release 67 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
On Sunday 23 September 2007 12:03:37 GJ Eldering wrote: GJ Eldering schreef: I have a problem with online update or software in yast.. YaST got signal 11 at YCP file OnlineUpdateCallbacks.ycp:524 /sbin/yast2: line 386: 8067 Segmentatiefout $ybindir/y2base $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS Use ; OS:Linux 2.6.22.5-29-bigsmp i686 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 RC1(i586) Please file a bug report at http://bugzilla.novell.com so it can be solved before 10.3 is released -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
Anders Johansson schreef: On Sunday 23 September 2007 12:03:37 GJ Eldering wrote: GJ Eldering schreef: I have a problem with online update or software in yast.. YaST got signal 11 at YCP file OnlineUpdateCallbacks.ycp:524 /sbin/yast2: line 386: 8067 Segmentatiefout $ybindir/y2base $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS Use ; OS:Linux 2.6.22.5-29-bigsmp i686 Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 RC1(i586) Please file a bug report at http://bugzilla.novell.com so it can be solved before 10.3 is released https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327564 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
On Sunday 23 September 2007 13:17:21 GJ Eldering wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327564 Great! To make it easier for the YaST developers to track it down, you should probably attach the file /var/log/YaST/y2log to that bug report -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] This is beyond funny - what a riot!!
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:33:54 +0100, Fred A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=741891990 Thanks, that was funny. Regards, David -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
Anders Johansson schreef: On Sunday 23 September 2007 13:17:21 GJ Eldering wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327564 Great! To make it easier for the YaST developers to track it down, you should probably attach the file /var/log/YaST/y2log to that bug report It's strange, i try to add the y2log file, but it is to big. So i delete it and started yast online update again, now there is no error, same for software??? Can i close the bugzilla -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
On Sunday 23 September 2007 06:34:52 am GJ Eldering wrote: Anders Johansson schreef: On Sunday 23 September 2007 13:17:21 GJ Eldering wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327564 Great! To make it easier for the YaST developers to track it down, you should probably attach the file /var/log/YaST/y2log to that bug report It's strange, i try to add the y2log file, but it is to big. So i delete it and started yast online update again, now there is no error, same for software??? Can i close the bugzilla That is the bug, GJ. YaST has problem when logs are large. Deleting them and restarting YaST is just workaround. So just add as a comment your above statement. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Serious server problem
Hello, I've a serious problem with my Fujitsu-Siemens RX100S4 server. I want to install a SuSE Linux on it with raid. I tried SuSE 10.0 and 10.1, but I always only saw two harddisks and no raid-system in the partitioner. Then I tried openSuSE 10.2 and had a little success. It found the correct raid Controller (a ICH7; ISL MegaRAID) and the two Broadcom network-interfaces. Then in the yast it crashed down. Without raid it donÄt carsh. The message is: device-mapper: table: 253:2: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed device-mapper: inctl: error adding target to table dmraid: segfault at 2b9809130a00 rip 2b9809130a00 rsp7fffa22f78c8 error 15 Can you help me? I need this server running SuSE linux Tanks Fabian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Suspend/Hibernate
Is suspend and hibernate operational in 10.3 RC1 Gnome? For some reason they are greyed out for me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
Rajko M. schreef: On Sunday 23 September 2007 06:34:52 am GJ Eldering wrote: Anders Johansson schreef: On Sunday 23 September 2007 13:17:21 GJ Eldering wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327564 Great! To make it easier for the YaST developers to track it down, you should probably attach the file /var/log/YaST/y2log to that bug report It's strange, i try to add the y2log file, but it is to big. So i delete it and started yast online update again, now there is no error, same for software??? Can i close the bugzilla That is the bug, GJ. YaST has problem when logs are large. Deleting them and restarting YaST is just workaround. So just add as a comment your above statement. Oke. I reopened the bug on https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=327564 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Hi, I have a nuisance in Thunderbird. When I try to send an email via my provider smtp server, it discovers it needs a password and asks for my master password. I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I want to keep it. Why? He already knows that! This is a nuisance, because I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up. Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, even if it fails? I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Yast problem
GJ Eldering wrote: It's strange, i try to add the y2log file, but it is to big. Just compress it and add it. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Carlos, On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 14:37 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, I have a nuisance in Thunderbird. When I try to send an email via my provider smtp server, it discovers it needs a password and asks for my master password. I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I want to keep it. Why? He already knows that! This is a nuisance, because I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up. Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, even if it fails? I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. That would be a very bad thing to do (TM). Reason is that if you're with a provide or company with a policy to only allow three (or however many) tries before you locked out, and you're also forced to change password periodically, guess what's going to happen Probably better to find out why it fails the first time, unfortunately I am not the right person for that job. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bug 97414 in kdesu (Suse 10.2)
* Basil Chupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-23-07 03:52]: Thanks for this but, unfortunately, the above doesn't work here. I'll just have to run the Manager from the command line. No, you don't, but you *do* need to follow the instructions you have been given. make a desktop link containing the following action: kdesu smart --gui roots password will be requested and the smart GUI will open. then you can even add a keyboard shortcut and not have to access the icon. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Magnus Boman wrote: Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, even if it fails? I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. That would be a very bad thing to do (TM). Reason is that if you're with a provide or company with a policy to only allow three (or however many) tries before you locked out, and you're also forced to change password periodically, guess what's going to happen Probably better to find out why it fails the first time, unfortunately I am not the right person for that job. I know why it fails: while I type my master password the remote server times out, probably because it thinks I'm a human and not a machine. Or something of the sort. Not important. What you say about changing passwords is not a problem at all: we could change it manually in the configuration instead. I just don't want to be prompted for the password. I want it to remember the password even if it fails, and let me decide if I want to type a new password. Linux style, not windows style :-P Ie, I want the configuration box to have: server ___ login ___ (*) remember password password ( ) prompt for password on failure -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Magnus Boman wrote: Carlos, On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 14:37 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, I have a nuisance in Thunderbird. When I try to send an email via my provider smtp server, it discovers it needs a password and asks for my master password. I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. snip That would be a very bad thing to do (TM). Reason is that if you're with a provide or company with a policy to only allow three (or however many) tries before you locked out, and you're also forced to change password periodically, guess what's going to happen Probably better to find out why it fails the first time, unfortunately I am not the right person for that job. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) Cheers, Magnus Have you tried configuring postfix to connect to the smtp server and configuring thunderbird to use localhost as the the smtp server. Postfix will deal with the password sending in the background... I believe you can also configure postfix to adjust to just what you need to connect to according what you are connecting on... - -- == I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. Bjarne Stroustrup == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFG9mOlasN0sSnLmgIRAgkxAJQLS+0sji8/KaNDgTN1wsUXD8vtAKDG71KM a1CKRTyx6ZShj8ruxcENvA== =5shH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 15:00 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: Magnus Boman wrote: Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, even if it fails? I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. That would be a very bad thing to do (TM). Reason is that if you're with a provide or company with a policy to only allow three (or however many) tries before you locked out, and you're also forced to change password periodically, guess what's going to happen Probably better to find out why it fails the first time, unfortunately I am not the right person for that job. I know why it fails: while I type my master password the remote server times out, probably because it thinks I'm a human and not a machine. Or something of the sort. Not important. What you say about changing passwords is not a problem at all: we could change it manually in the configuration instead. I just don't want to be prompted for the password. I want it to remember the password even if it fails, and let me decide if I want to type a new password. Linux style, not windows style :-P Ie, I want the configuration box to have: server ___ login ___ (*) remember password password ( ) prompt for password on failure How many people out there would understand that? I bet that most would check Remember password and they'd be locked out of their system before they know it. Has got NOTHING to do with Windows vs Linux. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
G T Smith wrote: Have you tried configuring postfix to connect to the smtp server and configuring thunderbird to use localhost as the the smtp server. Postfix will deal with the password sending in the background... I believe you can also configure postfix to adjust to just what you need to connect to according what you are connecting on... Yes, but that would not improve Thunderbird usability. I do that in my normal setup, but this is a secondary setup I'm using for testing RC1. Plus, I normally use Thunderbird to bypass my system config. Plus again, that would require me to test and configure postfix in RC1 before having list mail running ;-) -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, I have a nuisance in Thunderbird. When I try to send an email via my provider smtp server, it discovers it needs a password and asks for my master password. I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I want to keep it. Why? He already knows that! This is a nuisance, because I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up. Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, even if it fails? I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. Let's see if I can (possibly) clear things up here. Everytime you call your ISP for mail TB has to send your username and the password you use for that account. Occasionally, things go bad at the ISP end and when a connection is made you are asked to send the password - it's happened to me a number of times so I don't worry about now. Now, when you are asked if you want to STORE/REMEMBER the password, it is TB which is asking this question so that it can automacally send it on the next logo-on. But in order for this to occur you have to select/tick the option to always remember this password and to store it (in TB) - if you don't then you will have to type the pswd at the next (and subsequent) log-on. The password(s) which TB uses are stored in Edit/Preferences/Privacy/Passwords and there is an option to Edit Saved Passwords. Here you will also find the Master Password, which I don't bother with but your mileage may vary. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
On 09/23/2007 08:37 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: I have a nuisance in Thunderbird. It is a setting. You control the settings for your system. When I try to send an email via my provider smtp server, it discovers it needs a password and asks for my master password. You can control this with Preferences, Privacy, Passwords, and uncheck Use a Master password to encrypt stored passwords. This is a security feature, but if you do not want it, that is your choice. I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. Easily fixed by correctly configuring your smtp settings in Account Settings. Username and password are easily entered there. I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I want to keep it. Why? Because you did not fill it in. He already knows that! It knows you need it because the smtp server requires it, it knows you did not provide it, and you complain it asks you to do something you may have forgotten to do? Must be a bad day Carlos This is a nuisance, because I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up. No you don't. Enter them in the Settings for the correct smtp server. Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, Yes, that is what it does when it stores your password. even if it fails? No. If it fails, the server asks for a correct password, which after the entered one fails, it only passes on to the user. That is the correct thing for it to do. I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. Then you may in Account Settings, Outgoing Servers (SMTP). I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. If it is correct, it will not ask and it will not fail. If it fails, then it is not correct and has to be corrected. I don't believe it saves a password until it is accepted and works the initial time. HTH. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Original Message Subject:Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance. Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:09:58 +1000 From: Basil Chupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OS-en opensuse@opensuse.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carlos E. R. wrote: Hi, I have a nuisance in Thunderbird. When I try to send an email via my provider smtp server, it discovers it needs a password and asks for my master password. I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I want to keep it. Why? He already knows that! This is a nuisance, because I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up. Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, even if it fails? I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. Let's see if I can (possibly) clear things up here. Everytime you call your ISP for mail TB has to send your username and the password you use for that account. Occasionally, things go bad at the ISP end and when a connection is made you are asked to send the password - it's happened to me a number of times so I don't worry about now. Now, when you are asked if you want to STORE/REMEMBER the password, it is TB which is asking this question so that it can automacally send it on the next logo-on. But in order for this to occur you have to select/tick the option to always remember this password and to store it (in TB) - if you don't then you will have to type the pswd at the next (and subsequent) log-on. The password(s) which TB uses are stored in Edit/Preferences/Privacy/Passwords and there is an option to Edit Saved Passwords. Here you will also find the Master Password, which I don't bother with but your mileage may vary. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Bug 97414 in kdesu (Suse 10.2)
On Sunday 23 September 2007 14:53:00 Patrick Shanahan wrote: . make a desktop link containing the following action: kdesu smart --gui roots password will be requested and the smart GUI will open. This works here as written and also in kmenuedit. Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Magnus Boman wrote: What you say about changing passwords is not a problem at all: we could change it manually in the configuration instead. I just don't want to be prompted for the password. I want it to remember the password even if it fails, and let me decide if I want to type a new password. Linux style, not windows style :-P Ie, I want the configuration box to have: server ___ login ___ (*) remember password password ( ) prompt for password on failure How many people out there would understand that? I bet that most would check Remember password and they'd be locked out of their system before they know it. No, they would get a message box saying failed; is password correct? perhaps with a button for retyping password. Has got NOTHING to do with Windows vs Linux. Yes, because in Linux I'm the boss of my system. In windows HE is the boss. I want to have configurations keep, like postfix, apache, pine, etc. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Basil Chupin wrote: Let's see if I can (possibly) clear things up here. Everytime you call your ISP for mail TB has to send your username and the password you use for that account. Occasionally, things go bad at the ISP end and when a connection is made you are asked to send the password - it's happened to me a number of times so I don't worry about now. Now, when you are asked if you want to STORE/REMEMBER the password, it is TB which is asking this question so that it can automacally send it on the next logo-on. But in order for this to occur you have to select/tick the option to always remember this password and to store it (in TB) - if you don't then you will have to type the pswd at the next (and subsequent) log-on. I know that, and I do, and I did. The problem is that, if the already stored password fails, or the connection fails, or whatever, it asks me to retype my smtp password because HE thinks it is wrong, which it isn't. I could ask: retry, cancel, retype password? instead. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 09/23/2007 08:37 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: I type it, but by this time the smtp session timed out in the server (I guess) and fails. Easily fixed by correctly configuring your smtp settings in Account Settings. Username and password are easily entered there. Wrong. Username can be entered, not password. Look for yourself. I try again, and this time Th. asks for my smtp password and whether I want to keep it. Why? Because you did not fill it in. I did. He already knows that! It knows you need it because the smtp server requires it, it knows you did not provide it, and you complain it asks you to do something you may have forgotten to do? Must be a bad day Carlos No, Joe, no. I have observed this behavior for months. I did provide it, I have connected other days, and every time is the same thing. Yes, I always select remember password, via master password. This is a nuisance, because I use random passwords difficult to remember and have look it up. No you don't. Enter them in the Settings for the correct smtp server. There is no password entry box in the smtp server definition box. Look again. Only username. Is there a way to make Thunderbird remember my password for ever and not ask for it again, Yes, that is what it does when it stores your password. even if it fails? No. If it fails, the server asks for a correct password, which after the entered one fails, it only passes on to the user. That is the correct thing for it to do. It is asking for the password, which it already has. I want it to retry, not to ask for my password. He thinks it is wrong, I know it is correct. I want to be able to enter the password in the configuration, not as a pop up when I want to send or receive. Then you may in Account Settings, Outgoing Servers (SMTP). No, I may not. It is not there. Look for your self. I do not want to be asked again if it fails, because once configured the password it keeps being correct. If it is correct, it will not ask and it will not fail. If it fails, then it is not correct and has to be corrected. I don't believe it saves a password until it is accepted and works the initial time. HTH. It fails for different reasons that make he thinks it is wrong. I know better. I know better because it connected in the previous session. Sequence (from memory): 1 send 2 asks for master password. I type it. 3 server timeout and gives error. 4 Thund. ask for smtp passwd. I look it up ant paste it. 5 server fails (another timeout). 6 send 7 Thund. ask for smtp passwd 8 I paste password fast, request it to remember. 9 success. 10 send, sucess, till I close Thund. Next day: same as above. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird password nuisance.
On Sunday 23 September 2007 08:38:33 am Carlos E. R. wrote: Basil Chupin wrote: Let's see if I can (possibly) clear things up here. Everytime you call your ISP for mail TB has to send your username and the password you use for that account. Occasionally, things go bad at the ISP end and when a connection is made you are asked to send the password - it's happened to me a number of times so I don't worry about now. Now, when you are asked if you want to STORE/REMEMBER the password, it is TB which is asking this question so that it can automacally send it on the next logo-on. But in order for this to occur you have to select/tick the option to always remember this password and to store it (in TB) - if you don't then you will have to type the pswd at the next (and subsequent) log-on. I know that, and I do, and I did. The problem is that, if the already stored password fails, or the connection fails, or whatever, it asks me to retype my smtp password because HE thinks it is wrong, which it isn't. I could ask: retry, cancel, retype password? instead. It is good as enhancement request in Mozilla bugzilla. Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from RC1) -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
