Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Sunny]

On Nov 8, 2007 12:02 AM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> % smartctl -l error /dev/sda
> smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Error Log Version: 1
> No Errors Logged
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
>
>
> I'm not finding this very clear...
>

Neither am I. Maybe it's time to consult the proper mailing list :)

Sorry I could not help more ...

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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 20:40, Sunny wrote:
> ...
>
> For what I understand - the test failed, and no previous tests have
> been ever run. You should be able to get the test results with
> smartctl -l error.
>
> Also, you may use startctl -t long again, and try -l selftest again,
> just to see if it updates the tests count.

After a second test (this time with the drive unmounted from the file
system), the results are now:

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
% smartctl -t long /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION ===
Sending command: "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in 
off-line mode".
Drive command "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in off-line 
mode" successful.
Testing has begun.
Please wait 72 minutes for test to complete.
Test will complete after Wed Nov  7 21:27:44 2007

% smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90%  4766 
261202
# 2  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90%  4762 
261202

% smartctl -l error /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


I'm not finding this very clear...


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Re: [opensuse] download.opensuse.org Xorg7.3 xorg-x11-fonts-core broken

[David C. Rankin]

David C. Rankin wrote:
> During download for Xorg 7.3 from:
> 
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3/
> 
> xorg-x11-fonts-core is broken and fails the integrity check.
> 
> Do we need to open a bug on this?
> 
> 
Another failed integrity as well:

Error: 3:Package xorg-x11-fonts-7.3-1.7 fails integrity check. Do you
want to retry?

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[opensuse] compiz-fusion help

[Bob S]

Hello SuSE experimentors,

Trying out compiz-fusion on 10.3 using the nvidia drivers but doesn't seem to 
be working right.

I don't get a cube. The screen rotates when I click on another desktop which 
brings up the application that is open on that desktop so something is 
working. I also don't get my four enabled desktops, only #1 and #3 and they 
both have the same desktop picture.

Also sometimes when I open up a new app I don't get any window decorations 
(max, min, close) and I have to run emerald again.

Hope somebody has ideas/advice. I'd like to try it out but not much good the 
way it is.

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Re: [opensuse] A "WONTFIX" Bug #338930

[David C. Rankin]

David C. Rankin wrote:
> I'm more than a little disappointed in Bugzilla.Novell. After several
> run ins, I'm a little concerned that the focus there may be more on
> closing bugs than on fixing them. See Bug #338930 if you are interested.
> 
> The most concerning part was that as of the time of close, it wasn't
> clear from the conversation that anyone ever took the time to figure out
> what the actual problem was before they obviously figured out not to fix it.
> 
> I was kind of surprised getting that type of a response from suse?
> 

Excellent job Guys. After reopening the Bug, the bug was fully diagnosed
and found to be a bug in Radeon r300 DRI driver as well as several other
library problems.

While it will have to be fixed for a later release, the problem is now
fully understood.

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[opensuse] download.opensuse.org Xorg7.3 xorg-x11-fonts-core broken

[David C. Rankin]

During download for Xorg 7.3 from:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/xorg73/openSUSE_10.3/

xorg-x11-fonts-core is broken and fails the integrity check.

Do we need to open a bug on this?


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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Sunny]

On Nov 7, 2007 9:59 PM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
> % date
> Wed Nov  7 19:57:50 PST 2007
>
> % smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
> LBA_of_first_error
> # 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90%  4762 
> 261202
> -==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
>
>
> If SMART itself doesn't work, how can I trust the diagnostics it produces?
>

For what I understand - the test failed, and no previous tests have
been ever run. You should be able to get the test results with
smartctl -l error.

Also, you may use startctl -t long again, and try -l selftest again,
just to see if it updates the tests count.


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Re: [opensuse] good ntp server

[David C. Rankin]

Jack Malone wrote:
> Just wondering what ntp servers people here prefer to use. 
> I have done a google search an get a list of the public servers but wanted to 
> see which ones people here on the list use. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
Being a good Aggie, I prefer:

server ntppub.tamu.edu


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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 15:34, Sunny wrote:
> ...
>
> Randall,
> try smartctl -t long /dev/sda
>
> This will start a complete test of the drive (it may take hours).
> After the test is finished (you can check from time to time with
> smartctl -l selftest). The last command will display the persentage
> of the test finished, or the test results. Note that it shows the
> results for the last 21 tests.

Would that it were so.

The output from "smartctl -l /dev/sda" hasn't changed since I initiated
the test, which was now about than 3:45 hours ago:

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
% smartctl -t long /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF OFFLINE IMMEDIATE AND SELF-TEST SECTION ===
Sending command: "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in 
off-line mode".
Drive command "Execute SMART Extended self-test routine immediately in off-line 
mode" successful.
Testing has begun.
Please wait 72 minutes for test to complete.
Test will complete after Wed Nov  7 17:35:44 2007
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


Immediately thereafter, I did this:

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
% smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90%  4762 
261202
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


The output hasn't changed since then:

-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
% date
Wed Nov  7 19:57:50 PST 2007

% smartctl version 5.37 [i686-suse-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90%  4762 
261202
-==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-


If SMART itself doesn't work, how can I trust the diagnostics it produces?


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Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 won't upgrade when using LVM

[Sunny]

On Nov 7, 2007 6:02 PM, Scott Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. /etc, /bin, /sbin are in / as usual. The only partitions that are
> LVMs are /home, /opt, /var, /usr, /srv, and /tmp.
>

Very strange. I upgraded 2 machines from 10.2 to 10.3 (using LVM) w/o
any problem.

And ... pls, check this:


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[opensuse] Comment on 10.3

[Kai Ponte]

Hey, I just added a few repositories on oS/10.3 running under VMWare on my 
10.2 machine.

I *REALLY* like the new "add community repository" tool. That alone would make 
it worth the upgrade. Very nice!!
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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

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On 11/7/07, Carl Hartung  wrote:
> In this case, however, I have installed 10.2 very differently than previous
> releases. Instead of installing everything displaying an empty checkbox next
> to it, I tried to only install the software that I actually use on a regular
> basis... in part, I suppose, to conserve a little disk space and
> combat 'bloat'. So, I don't have the compiler or related packages and
> libraries installed. And I'm really loathe to go down that road for just one
> package. I *was* toying with the idea of checking out the factory build
> service but I'm more of a 'play' programmer than a 'real' one and am finding
> that prospect pretty intimidating.

Yes, I now use a similar philosophy with my Linux installations.
Although I've found myself in dependency hell too many times in the
past not to try and set myself up for success as far as that goes.  ;)

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

[Andy Harrison]

On 11/7/07, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A more graceful way to kill them compared to what?
>
> You didn't tell us what you're currently doing to
> kill active VNC connections.
>
> Ask half a question, get half an answer.

And then wait for someone to show up late in the conversation and then
do nothing except make the signal to noise ratio of the discussion
less helpful...

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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

[Carl Hartung]

On Wed November 7 2007 04:39:03 pm Andy Harrison wrote:
> Sometimes, and only sometimes, it's not too hard to create your own
> rpm.  If you can find the src rpm file, it's not too hard to edit the
> spec file and make the package yourself.
>
> Install the src rpm:
> rpm -ivh glom-x.x.src.rpm
>
> Then edit /usr/src/packages/SPECS/glom.spec
>
> Try to build it:
> rpmbuild -bb glom.spec
>
> Common issues will be that you need to install more *-devel packages
> for compiling purposes as well as changing the names of the
> dependencies listed in the spec file to the names of the corresponding
> suse rpm package names.

Thanks for the encouragement, Andy! ;-)  My success rate in the past for 
locally compiling then building and installing (via checkinstall) 'custom' 
packages for SuSE/openSUSE is probably about 40% to 50%.

In this case, however, I have installed 10.2 very differently than previous 
releases. Instead of installing everything displaying an empty checkbox next 
to it, I tried to only install the software that I actually use on a regular 
basis... in part, I suppose, to conserve a little disk space and 
combat 'bloat'. So, I don't have the compiler or related packages and 
libraries installed. And I'm really loathe to go down that road for just one 
package. I *was* toying with the idea of checking out the factory build 
service but I'm more of a 'play' programmer than a 'real' one and am finding 
that prospect pretty intimidating.

Thanks again and regards,

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Compiz_Fusion No# of desktops

[Dana J. Laude]

Jan Ritzerfeld wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 7. November 2007 schrieb Matthew Stringer:


Despite having all settings I can see set to 4 desktops it always shows
16 of them on the task bar which is a bit pointless and takes up almost
the bar.
[...]


Same here. Very annoying.

Give "dcop kicker kicker restart" (KDE 3) a try.


Try Configure Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> Number of desktops = 1.
That's the solution I found either via google, docs or the Compiz wiki.

If you want say, more than 4 desktops, start CompizConfig Settings 
Manager. General Options -> Desktop Size tab and change the Horizontal 
Virtual Size to 6. (or whatever # you need)


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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

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I typically vnc into my suse 10.2 desktop from home.  And, typically,
I forget to shut it off when I go to work.

Is there a more graceful way kill all active vnc client connections?



A more graceful way to kill them compared to what?

You didn't tell us what you're currently doing to
kill active VNC connections.

Ask half a question, get half an answer.


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Re: [opensuse] intall hints for 10.3 on Thinkpad?

[Zoltan Levardy]

and there is no settings for 1600x1050 of its TFT, SXWGA+ whatever 
called. Now running in 800x600.



is there any idea how to fix ati x1400 resolution issue?

thx

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Re: [opensuse] intall hints for 10.3 on Thinkpad?

[Zoltan Levardy]

Carlos F Lange wrote:

On Thu November 1 2007 22:51, Zoltan Levardy wrote:
  

thanks guys for hint ;)

i needed to reboot 3 times while repartitioning. Finally i am having 
a feeling it needs to refresh partition table to re-read. And format

cannot be done just after a partition created. But it's just working
with bit a hassle.



It is usually a one pass operation that shrinks your main Windows 
partition, leaving the "preload" and "service" ones alone and at the 
same time formats the new partition(s) needed for Linux. I've seen the 
process get interrupted if there are bad blocks in the disk. Usually 
you get an error message, when this is the case.
  
the error was: -0800L but i did not find any result by googling. Another 
info, i had the same issue with my old desktop (asus p4p800dlx with 
intel ICH5R) when had a try also to repartition a SATA attached HDD.
I have the impression that SATA attached drives, cannot resize (modify 
partition table) and format in the same boot session. If i made only 
partition changes, even only change partition type as (82,83...), then i 
needed to reboot to be able to format. That was the work around in my case.
  

another issue came up as wifi lan adapter looks not working. It is an
intel pro  3945 abd. Kernel module loaded (ipw3945), but wlan
indicator led show heavy traffic on it, but just simply not
initialized. Kernel is default: 2.6.22.5-31.
Should i try with another module? or kernel?



The Intel driver ipw3945 is apparently of poor quality.
Do a search in bugzilla (https://bugzilla.novell.com/query.cgi) with 
Words:3945 and Product:opensuse 10.3 and you will find there are 10 
open bugs being actively worked on now.
If you feel that your case does not fit in any of those, by all means 
submit a new bug report, so they can start working in fixing it for 
you.
  

i still need to investigate what is the best suiting for my problem.

thanks Carlos a lot ;)

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Re: [opensuse] file types

[Aaron Kulkis]

Istvan Gabor wrote:

Hello list users:

How kde decides (konqueror, krusader) the type of a file?
Sometimes the file's icon in krusader does not correspond to 
the extension.


that's because file extensions can be anything -- and
file "type" (i.e. what programs can use it) is NOT
determined of the operating system -- that's for you,
the user to decide, and exercise in any way which you
want.(*)

I can make a JPEG format file, and call it "picture.doc",
and even KDE should be able to tell that it's a JPEG
formatted file, not a Microsoft Word document.

Or you can just call your JPEG file  "picture",
without any tag letters at all.


A file's type is determined by the internal structure
of it's contents, NOT by any suffixes.

for more explanation, read up on the "file" command:

man file


(*) there really aren't any different types of
data files on Unix and Linux... the only different
TYPES of files recognized by system are "regular"
files, named pipes, sockets, directories, symbolic
links, and the "block special" and "character
special" device drivers found in /dev.





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Re: [opensuse] chmod question

[Aaron Kulkis]

James D. Parra wrote:

Hello,

Out of curiosity, what is the S for in, -rwxr-Sr-t? Is that a sticky bit and
id so, how is it set with chmod?



Set group ID bit.  (setgid)

Unfortunately, the assholes at the FSF refuse to
put the full documentation for chmod in the man page,
so you have to use the cumbersom and confusing
(for non-emacs users) info system.  I recommend
using pinfo instead, as it's not quite as bad
as info.

pinfo chmod  #  for more information

see also

pinfo coreutils # and go to the section
# titled File Permissions
# then look at "Mode Structure"
# and "Numeric Modes"
# you can also look at Symbolic
# modes, but this mechanism is
# not always available on
# various *nix systems.

Here's the important part -- a file's "mode"
is the Logical-OR of the following values:

ModeCorresponding Permssion
Bit

User who owns file (u)

0400Read (-r)
0200Write(--w---)
0100Execute  (---x--)

users in file's group (g) (see /etc/group)

0040Read (r-)
0020Write(-w)
0010Execute  (--x---)

Other users not in file's group (o)

0004Read (---r--)
0002Write(w-)
0001Execute  (-x)


Special Permissions

4000Set USER ID on execution  (---S--)
2000Set GROUP ID on execution (--S---)
1000Sticky Bit (t)(-t)

For DIRECTORIES:

  === regular permissions ===
read permisission  ability to list contents (/bin/ls )

write permission   ability to create and remove
   files in directory.

execute permission give the ability to
   change directory (cd) into
   the directory.

 === special permissions ==
Set User ID SETUID has no effect on directories.

Set Group IDon some systems, no matter what
creator specifies, all files in
directory have the same group
as the directory with SETGID set.

sticky bit  Only a file's OWNER can remove
said file from the directory
(rm or rmdir)




-rwxr-Sr-t   1 root root 25016 Nov  6 11:38 temp.txt
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  9622 Mar 19  2005 generic


Set Group ID (SETGID) for a text file is meaningless.

Also, putting  .txt on the end of a file is equally
meaningless on anything other than M$ systems.


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Re: [opensuse] Another Xen question - cloning

[Bryen]

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 00:48 +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 17:07 -0600, Bryen wrote:
> 
> > > 
> > :-D  I love it when a "can-do" answer supersedes a "can't-do" answer.
> > I'll give this a shot this weekend.  Thanks!
> > 
> 
> Sure, xen works superb!
> At work we have several dom-0 systems on a san, and about 50 dom-u's
> 
> Thanks to the xen-3.1, were able to run 32-bit pae-images on 64-bit
> systems. And older images (10.2, 10.1) run without a hitch.
> Ubuntu-dom-u-images (7.10) works as well.
> 
> It's just *bsd, that needs serious tinkering to get it working.
> 
> Hans
> 
Agreed!  I've been working as a partner with the Xen Enterprise
products.  But there are certain enhanced features that I miss when
working with the Suse edition.  Hence my questions where I need
workarounds in this area.
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Re: [opensuse] SuSE 10.3 won't upgrade when using LVM

[Sunny]

On Nov 7, 2007 5:46 PM, Scott Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3 and 10.3 does not seem to
> know the file system formats when using LVM. I have / and /boot on an
> ext3 partition and /usr, /var, swap, etc on LVM partitions. When I
> boot off the 10.3 DVD and pick upgrade, it has no idea which
> filesystems to upgrade. Any way around this?

Are all of the usual directories in / all on different LVs? Incl.
/etc, /bin and /sbin?

I had no problem doing the upgrade, but I have /etc, bin and /sbin in
the root partition itself, not on LV. Otherwise, my /var and /usr are
on LVs.

I guess, the installer does not mount the filesystems, so it can not
find /etc, /bin and /sbin.

A workaround will be to copy these partitions into directories of /,
and then retry.

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Re: [opensuse] Another Xen question - cloning

[Hans Witvliet]

On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 17:07 -0600, Bryen wrote:

> > 
> :-D  I love it when a "can-do" answer supersedes a "can't-do" answer.
> I'll give this a shot this weekend.  Thanks!
> 

Sure, xen works superb!
At work we have several dom-0 systems on a san, and about 50 dom-u's

Thanks to the xen-3.1, were able to run 32-bit pae-images on 64-bit
systems. And older images (10.2, 10.1) run without a hitch.
Ubuntu-dom-u-images (7.10) works as well.

It's just *bsd, that needs serious tinkering to get it working.

Hans

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[opensuse] SuSE 10.3 won't upgrade when using LVM

[Scott Simpson]

I am trying to upgrade from 10.2 to 10.3 and 10.3 does not seem to
know the file system formats when using LVM. I have / and /boot on an
ext3 partition and /usr, /var, swap, etc on LVM partitions. When I
boot off the 10.3 DVD and pick upgrade, it has no idea which
filesystems to upgrade. Any way around this?
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[opensuse] Re: [suse-sparc] This list will be closed by the 12th of November 2007

[Hans Witvliet]

On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 14:43 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> due to the lack of traffic and the list server dying off this list will
> be closed at the 12th of November 2007.
> 
> Henne
> 
(cross-posting intentionally)

Hi Henne,

Is it only the lack of traffic?

I wonder if the interrest is also deminnished...
Can you tell (or should i be able to see for my self) how many people
are still subscribed to the list...

>From reliability point of view, sun hardware allways wins!

There are not many intel / amd systems i know of, that last as long as
sun-systems.
On other alternative, hp-risc, turned the cots-hardware, with its
reduced life-span.

Perhaps i looked at the wrong places, but any chance of some practical
info about the ice-cream cross-compilation possibilities?
afaik, its an in-house tool, not? publically available, but not
documented.

I had suse-7.0 running on my sparc-lx and my sparc-20-smp, but those
systems are not capable for heavy complilation job (33mHZ cpu ;-)

At the time of the 10.0 release-party for the beta-testers, i raised the
topic about different architectures. AJ told me that you had a lack of
hw-resources, and that sun-equipment was used for NFS-tests.
And that the sparc-port, like the hp-risc port, were actually in private
inhouse experiment.

So if any other sparc-lovers still alive: raise to the occasion!

Henne, if you think that (open)-suse can be cured from obesitas, sparc
has still a future. 7.0 ran well on 64MB, while otoh if you want to
upgrade an 10.1 system, you need 1GB AND swap-space!
(Was happy to find that 10.3 is not such a resource-pig as 10.1)
But 512MB is the limit for many sparc-systems!

Hans

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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Sunny]

On Nov 7, 2007 5:15 PM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would like to get some authoritative and definitive information about
> the specific meaning of this warning. I'm a bit skeptical about the
> dire warnings that these messages mean the drive is near the end of its
> useful life.
>
> I have a drive that has only been in operation a few months (and it's
> been a few months of very light use, at that) that is giving me a
> couple of similar error messages:
>
> Device: /dev/sda, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
> Device: /dev/sda, 2 Offline uncorrectable sectors
>
>
> All the other SMART output is routine bookkeeping or temperature change
> notifications. I have no other overt indications of problems with this
> drive. If it's relevant, this is an excerpt from the drive's "hwinfo"
> output:
>
>
>
> What precisely do these SMART diagnostics mean? How can I get a more
> detailed diagnosis or possibly remap the defective sectors?
>

Randall,
try smartctl -t long /dev/sda

This will start a complete test of the drive (it may take hours).
After the test is finished (you can check from time to time with
smartctl -l selftest). The last command will display the persentage of
the test finished, or the test results. Note that it shows the results
for the last 21 tests.

Check man smartctl for more info.

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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Randall R Schulz]

On Tuesday 06 November 2007 18:15, Fernando Costa wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some days ago I began to receive the following message: "Your hard
> disk drive is failing! S.M.A.R.T. message: Device: /dev/sda, 1
> currently unreadable (pending) sector" ...


I would like to get some authoritative and definitive information about 
the specific meaning of this warning. I'm a bit skeptical about the 
dire warnings that these messages mean the drive is near the end of its 
useful life.

I have a drive that has only been in operation a few months (and it's 
been a few months of very light use, at that) that is giving me a 
couple of similar error messages:

Device: /dev/sda, 2 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
Device: /dev/sda, 2 Offline uncorrectable sectors


All the other SMART output is routine bookkeeping or temperature change 
notifications. I have no other overt indications of problems with this 
drive. If it's relevant, this is an excerpt from the drive's "hwinfo" 
output:

  Model: "WDC WD1500ADFD-0"
  Vendor: "WDC"
  Device: "WD1500ADFD-0"
  Revision: "20.0"
  Serial ID: "WD-WMAP41210940"
  Driver: "ata_piix", "sd"
  Driver Modules: "ata_piix"
  Device File: /dev/sda
  Geometry (Logical): CHS 18241/255/63
  Size: 293046768 sectors a 512 bytes
  Geometry (BIOS EDD): CHS 290721/16/63
  Size (BIOS EDD): 293046768 sectors
  Geometry (BIOS Legacy): CHS 1024/255/63
  Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #17 (IDE interface)


What precisely do these SMART diagnostics mean? How can I get a more 
detailed diagnosis or possibly remap the defective sectors?


Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Another Xen question - cloning

[Bryen]

On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 23:48 +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 21:01 -0600, Bryen wrote:
> > How do I clone an existing vm to a new vm?
> > 
> I've been doing it a couple of times.
> Mind you, i don't use the yast-tools...
> 
> most important thing is, that before you clone, you should shut down the
> dom-u system.
> After that, copy the image of the dom-u, copy the xml-control-file.
> Change the names IN the new control file, so it matches the name of the
> copy of your dom-u-image.
> If you define the mac-addresses of the dom-u system in the xml-file,
> adjust the dhcp-config,
> 
> And to make it tidy, after starting up the clone, adjust udev, otherwise
> the eth-devises will get renamed -;)
> 
> HW
> 
:-D  I love it when a "can-do" answer supersedes a "can't-do" answer.
I'll give this a shot this weekend.  Thanks!

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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Billie Walsh]

On 11/07/2007 James Knott wrote:
> One thing to bear in mind, is that drives have spare sectors, which get
> used as others fail.  The warning is to tell you that the drive is well
> on it's way to failing and should be replaced ASAP.  You were lucky that
> it didn't fail sooner.  What you did, is comparable to disabling the
> engine light on a car, rather than fixing what's causing it to turn on.

There was nothing wrong with the drive. There was something in SMART
that was wrong. I've seen SMART say that a brand new drive is failing.
SMART is nothing like the engine light on a car.
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Re: [opensuse] Another Xen question - cloning

[Hans Witvliet]

On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 21:01 -0600, Bryen wrote:
> How do I clone an existing vm to a new vm?
> 
I've been doing it a couple of times.
Mind you, i don't use the yast-tools...

most important thing is, that before you clone, you should shut down the
dom-u system.
After that, copy the image of the dom-u, copy the xml-control-file.
Change the names IN the new control file, so it matches the name of the
copy of your dom-u-image.
If you define the mac-addresses of the dom-u system in the xml-file,
adjust the dhcp-config,

And to make it tidy, after starting up the clone, adjust udev, otherwise
the eth-devises will get renamed -;)

HW

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

[Anders Johansson]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 23:02:07 Andy Harrison wrote:
> On 11/7/07, Anders Johansson  wrote:
> > If you're sharing your real desktop, I would recommend the KDE "remote
> > desktop sharing", under "system" in your menu. That will give you a
> > systray icon where you can comfortably control everything
>
> Yes, I am doing my real desktop.
>
> I'll definitely give this method a spin.  I had enabled it under yast
> -> hardware -> graphics card and monitor -> remote access, clearly a
> less desirable method.  :)

Yes, disable that :)

In KDE's "Desktop sharing", click on "Configure", select "Allow uninvited 
connections", and deselect "Confirm uninvited connections" (otherwise someone 
in the office has to click "OK" when you try to connect), and set up a 
password for it

Also, as a general rule for all the VNC solutions, I hope this is over a VPN 
or similar. Because VNC is completely unencrypted

Anders

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

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On 11/7/07, Anders Johansson  wrote:
>
> If you're sharing your real desktop, I would recommend the KDE "remote desktop
> sharing", under "system" in your menu. That will give you a systray icon
> where you can comfortably control everything

Yes, I am doing my real desktop.

I'll definitely give this method a spin.  I had enabled it under yast
-> hardware -> graphics card and monitor -> remote access, clearly a
less desirable method.  :)

Thanx!

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[opensuse] Re: Cannot Enable Community Repositores on 10.3 KDE Live CD

[Antoni Mont]

Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:

> Dňa Monday 05 November 2007 15:54:35 Stanislav Visnovsky ste napísal:
>> Dňa Monday 05 November 2007 06:43:19 Rajko M. ste napísal:
>> > On Sunday 04 November 2007 10:15:54 pm Rajko M. wrote:
>> > > On Sunday 04 November 2007 01:29:38 pm Jeremy Wahl wrote:
>> > > > On 11/4/07, Rajko M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > On Saturday 03 November 2007 09:57:08 pm Jeremy Wahl wrote:
>> > > > > > When I try to enable the Community Repositories in YaST2
>> > > > > > Control
>> > > > > > Center on the 10.3 live CD, I get  "No product URL defined to
>> > > > > > download list of repositories from."  This the first thing I
>> > > > > > did when I booted the live CD.

(...)

> OK, the problem is in /etc/YaST/control.xml, the URL for
> external_sources_link tag is wrong.
> 
> Stano

Thanks, Stano. I experienced the same problem after have performed the
installation from the LiveCD. I assume (from another installation on a 64
bit laptop performed with the complete dvd) that the correct
external_sources_link tag is:

http://download.opensuse.org/YaST/Repos/openSUSE_103_Servers.xml

Is this correct?

Toni

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

[Anders Johansson]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 22:22:04 Andy Harrison wrote:
> On 11/7/07, Anders Johansson  wrote:
> > What do you use as a vnc server?
>
> I'm not sure which vnc server I'm using.  While I just enabled it from
> YaST, I don't see Xvnc present.
>
> (546)[4:13pm] > ps uaxww | grep -i vnc | grep -v grep
> (547)[4:13pm] > sudo lsof -i | grep -i vnc
> Xorg  16932  root   16u  IPv4 398702   TCP *:vnc-server

Oh dear, you're using the built-in vnc server in X. I would advise against 
that, it has a long history of instability. The standalone versions are 
better

> Should the dcop method still work?  That'd be nice and easy to script.

Yes, it will work so long as you're in KDE, but only if you do a separate 
login through vnc. If you're sharing your "real" desktop, it won't work

If you're sharing your real desktop, I would recommend the KDE "remote desktop 
sharing", under "system" in your menu. That will give you a systray icon 
where you can comfortably control everything

Anders

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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

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On 11/7/07, Carl Hartung  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What is the preferred method for submitting a new package recommendation to
> the openSUSE project? While researching gui database frontends I
> located 'glom' and it looks extremely promising. There are currently packages
> available for Ubuntu, Fedora, Gentoo and Mandriva.


Sometimes, and only sometimes, it's not too hard to create your own
rpm.  If you can find the src rpm file, it's not too hard to edit the
spec file and make the package yourself.

Install the src rpm:
rpm -ivh glom-x.x.src.rpm

Then edit /usr/src/packages/SPECS/glom.spec

Try to build it:
rpmbuild -bb glom.spec

Common issues will be that you need to install more *-devel packages
for compiling purposes as well as changing the names of the
dependencies listed in the spec file to the names of the corresponding
suse rpm package names.

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

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On 11/7/07, Anders Johansson  wrote:
>
> What do you use as a vnc server?
>


I'm not sure which vnc server I'm using.  While I just enabled it from
YaST, I don't see Xvnc present.

(546)[4:13pm] > ps uaxww | grep -i vnc | grep -v grep
(547)[4:13pm] > sudo lsof -i | grep -i vnc
Xorg  16932  root   16u  IPv4 398702   TCP *:vnc-server (LISTEN)
(548)[4:13pm] > chkconfig --list | grep -i vnc
vnc:on
(549)[4:13pm] > grep -i vnc /etc/X11/xorg.conf
  Load "vnc"
  Option   "InputFashion" "VNC"
  Option   "InputFashion" "VNC"
  Option   "usevnc" "yes"
  Option   "httpdir" "/usr/share/vnc/classes"
  Option   "rfbauth" "/root/.vnc/passwd"
  Option   "VNC" "3 2"



(chkconfig shows vnc in the xinetd section)

Should the dcop method still work?  That'd be nice and easy to script.


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Re: [opensuse] Slow printing on Linux

[Theo v. Werkhoven]

Tue, 06 Nov 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> Theo v. Werkhoven writes:
> > Tue, 06 Nov 2007, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > I have an old HP Laserjet 4ML Postscript printer connected to the
> > > parallel port of my SUSE 10.0 machine, running CUPS and configured
> > > to use the Laserjet 4ML v2013.003 postscript PPD file (recommended).
> > > I also have this printer configured as a shared printer over samba
> > > on my network.
> > > 
> > > Everything works properly, but, when I use PayPal shipping to print
> > > a USPS shipping label on Linux, it takes a long time (printer light
> > > blinking the whole time), but when I do the same thing on Windowz XP
> > > to the same printer over the share, it's very fast.  The difference is
> > > something like many minutes on Linux and only seconds on Windowz for
> > > a single sheet to come out.
> > > 
> > > Anyone could offer an explanation why it's so slow on Linux?
> > 
> > The rendering of a complicated Postscript page with graphics
> > (bar-codes etc) just takes a long time for the old and slow engine
> > in the printer.
> > Try to use a PCL driver PPD file in the postscript's driver's stead.
> > Much faster.
> 
> So how come print jobs sent from the Windows machine come out so
> much faster on the same printer?  On the Windows side, the printer
> is configured as a remote printer but the model is set as a HP Laserjet
> 4ML Postscript too.  Are you saying somehow Windows isn't sending
> Postscript to the printer over samba?

Dunno, but I used to use the PPD for postscript output on my LJ1200,
and I also thought it took a long time for some pages to print. I
read about this Postscript vs PCL difference somewhere and gave it a
try. It "worked" for me.
Postscript *is* more accurate than PCL, but that comes with a price.
Why the Windows driver is much faster? I don't know.

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

[Anders Johansson]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 21:40:23 Andy Harrison wrote:
> Sorry, I was unclear.  How do I clear vnc clients that are remotely
> connecting to my opensuse 10.2 desktop?  Not connections initiated
> from my desktop.

What do you use as a vnc server?

If you use krfb, so clients connect to your real desktop, then you should be 
able to disconnect clients from the systray icon

If vncserver, use "vncserver -kill ", or just "killall vncserver"

If the Xvnc based "remote desktop administration", as set up by YaST, just 
do "killall Xvnc"

If the clients are logged in to kde, you can also get them to log out a little 
more nicely, using dcop.

dcop --user  --list-sessions

will give you a list of logged in sessions for that user (in case you use the 
same username). Select the one you want to log out (you can usually tell, 
because the host name is in the session name), and do

dcop --user  --session  ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 
0

(in case it gets wrapped, that dcop command is all on one line)

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Re: [opensuse] NFS shares

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On 11/7/07, Paul Constable  wrote:
> Can anybody give me any insight into the problems.  I do not want to change
> the permissions, unless forced to, as this is fraught with the problems
> of 'lost data'. I would also want to get the users conditioned into using
> network shares correctly optimising the data integrity,,
>
>  My intentions is for the business, but I am getting more grief by the day

This would be caused by whatever application is writing the file, not
the operating system.

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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

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On 11/7/07, chika  wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> ps aux |grep vnc
> get all pids then
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> kill pid pid
>
> or
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~> killall vnc
>
> i hope this way is smoother than u think


Sorry, I was unclear.  How do I clear vnc clients that are remotely
connecting to my opensuse 10.2 desktop?  Not connections initiated
from my desktop.

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[opensuse] NFS shares

[Paul Constable]

Hi all,
I have a server setup using openSuSE 10.2, with a central nfs partition 
serving 4 x openSuSE 10.2 workstations.

I have set the all directories with 2777 permissions, made sure all SUIDs and 
GUIDs are the same on all machines.  

I have two main problems, besides the users.

i.  They all want to share the same file at the same time, and 
maintian all 
rights and privileges

ii. Once the file has been amended and saved back the permissions 
change to 
0644.

Can anybody give me any insight into the problems.  I do not want to change 
the permissions, unless forced to, as this is fraught with the problems 
of 'lost data'. I would also want to get the users conditioned into using 
network shares correctly optimising the data integrity,,   

 My intentions is for the business, but I am getting more grief by the day

TIA
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Re: [opensuse] Will we ever see ifconfig as a user?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 11:18, Sunny wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2007 9:16 AM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wow. I thought it was clear I was being entirely humorous.
> >
> > I'll have to work on that...
>
> You did not state you are British, that's why the confusion :)

British?!

Let me tell you, in everyday life I do not go by Randall...


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Re: [opensuse] file types

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* Istvan Gabor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-07-07 11:43]:
> How kde decides (konqueror, krusader) the type of a file?

man file

will give a better explanation that I can.

> Sometimes the file's icon in krusader does not correspond to the
> extension.

the extension does not *define* the file tipe, but is just part of the
file-name and *may* indicate it's type depending on the intention of
the "namer".

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Re: [opensuse] Will we ever see ifconfig as a user?

[Sunny]

On Nov 7, 2007 9:16 AM, Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow. I thought it was clear I was being entirely humorous.
>
> I'll have to work on that...
>

You did not state you are British, that's why the confusion :)

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Re: [opensuse] Harddisk serial number (SuSE10.3), cloning disks

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On Nov 7, 2007 12:03 PM, Wolfgang Woehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> People clone for a tight spec range. They will not mix pata and sata boards
> and expect things to work. Motion denied.
>
> > As far as you can boot either way (providing the right boot options),
> > hard-coding the device names is going to be mess.
>
> Look at /etc/fstab. There's your hard-coded device nomenclature. Be it by
> path, id, device name. It's not a mess, it's how it works. I'm afraid this
> motion has to be denied :)
>

Yeah, we do not live in a perfect world. Only the judges have the
power to deny a motion, and as we know, they are not the best example
of technical competency :-P

;-)

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Re: [opensuse] kdar for 10.3 - SOLVED

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On Wednesday November 7 2007 07:18, Istvan Gabor wrote:
>
> The kdar 2.0.7 src is here:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=96947
>
> I have not tried to make an rpm package yet but I will try one
> time.
>
> Cheers,
>

That file was labeled release 3 snapshot so I downloaded a file from another 
location. 

The RPM I made on 10.3 works file after I made the dar, libdar changes you 
suggested. I did a save and then a restore of /home/Documents with no 
problems.
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Re: [opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

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Re: [opensuse] kdesu does not recognize password in 10.3? [SOLVED]

[Carlos F Lange]

On Wed November 7 2007 10:52, Carlos F Lange wrote:
> What I find not OK is that these settings disable the root password
> in kdesu. While I could always start YaST2 using my user password, I
> just created a test user that is only allowed in sudoers to install
> printers and run openvpn, and that user cannot start YaST2 with
> kdesu, not even with root password! I will file a bug report on this
> particular behaviour.

Filed as
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339922

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Re: [opensuse] Will we ever see ifconfig as a user?

[Wolfgang Woehl]

Mittwoch, 7. November 2007 Randall R Schulz:
> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 01:27, G T Smith wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:51, Sunny wrote:
> > >> On Nov 6, 2007 5:46 PM, Ben Kevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> I am sure this has been discussed before, but will openSUSE ever
> > >>> allow the user to run ifconfig? or allow it to be run via sudo
> >
> > 
> >
> > > It would seem that many consider these programs the equivalent of
> > > loaded guns ...
> > >
> > > Thus, to protect idiots from themselves, ...
> >
> > lol
> >
> > I am sincerely hoping you are not entirely serious
>
> Wow. I thought it was clear I was being entirely humorous.
>
> I'll have to work on that...

Cool, an irony-feedback-loop
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[opensuse] VNC Remote Desktop management

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Is there a more graceful way kill all active vnc client connections?

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Re: [opensuse] Harddisk serial number (SuSE10.3), cloning disks

[Wolfgang Woehl]

Dienstag, 6. November 2007 Sunny:

> The prosecutor steps in :)
>
> The device name will differ if you use the old PATA drivers to access
> IDE drives (/dev/hdx) and the new SATA drivers, which create /dev/sdx.

People clone for a tight spec range. They will not mix pata and sata boards 
and expect things to work. Motion denied.

> As far as you can boot either way (providing the right boot options),
> hard-coding the device names is going to be mess.

Look at /etc/fstab. There's your hard-coded device nomenclature. Be it by 
path, id, device name. It's not a mess, it's how it works. I'm afraid this 
motion has to be denied :)

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Re: [opensuse] kdesu does not recognize password in 10.3? [SOLVED]

[Carlos F Lange]

OK, I figured it out.

On Mon November 5 2007 06:00, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Monday 2007-11-05 at 02:24 -0600, Carlos F Lange wrote:
> >> I can't fire up Yast from kde, using kdesu I presume. I can "su"
> >> to root on any console or xterm, and using gnome - but not kdesu
> >> in kde.
> >
> > It seems to be just kdesu. Kwallet for root also requires the
> > password in a separate window and it is working fine.
>
> I got an off-list reply suggesting to try typing our user's password
> instead of root's - it worked for him once in 10.2, he says.

Yes, the user psasword works.

> I can't try that at the moment, as I'm right now running gnome.
>
> >> I can't say since when, as I updated to 10.3 last Saturday.
> >
> > It must be in last few days. I didn't use my laptop wit 10.3 for a
> > couple of days and when I ran it on Saturday the problem was there.
>
> And you updated something? In my case, everything was updated on
> Saturday, so I don't know how it behaved previously. I think the RC3
> didn't have this problem, though, but it's not the first time it
> happens.

I was able to trace it back to a change in sudoers.
I found through these bug reports:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216796
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336204
that kdesu now uses sudo to interpret passwords and that is why, if you 
don't change the default in /etc/sudoers to "timestamp_timeout = 0", 
you can fire-up Yast2 without typing a password within 5 minutes of 
entering the password once.

In my case I changed sudoers to give myself full administrator control 
with sudo (and to time out immediately) and to ask for the user 
password instead of the root password ("Defaults:ADMIN_USERS 
authenticate", while previously defining the ADMIN_USERS list)
and from that moment on, kdesu started accepting only my user password.

Since I moved from 10.1 to 10.3, this behaviour is new to me, but upon 
reflection it makes sense. If I give a user full administrator access 
in the command line with sudo and user password, the user should be 
able to start anything with kdesu and user password. In 10.1, such a 
user could only start the ncurses version of Yast and I always wondered 
why.

What I find not OK is that these settings disable the root password in 
kdesu. While I could always start YaST2 using my user password, I just 
created a test user that is only allowed in sudoers to install printers 
and run openvpn, and that user cannot start YaST2 with kdesu, not even 
with root password! I will file a bug report on this particular 
behaviour.

In addition, I agree with comments 6 and 7:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=216796#c6
that this behaviour of kdesu should be well documented and highlighted, 
specially the time-out thing.

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Re: [opensuse] screen saver intermittant

[Wolfgang Woehl]

Dienstag, 6. November 2007 Andreas:
> Am Montag, 5. November 2007 22:38:37 schrieb Hans van der Merwe:
> > Great (well not so), someone else also has this - I thought I was the
> > only one.
> > This is def a mplayer (movie player? I only use mplayer) and kpowersave
> > issue (since 10.0; 9 worked fine).
>
> well, kplayer is basically just a KDE frontend for mplayer.
>
> > I will see if I can recreate it and file a bug report.
> > Hans
>
> That's where it got me. I did not even file a bug report with KDE or Novell
> because I could never reliably recreate the circumstances under which the
> screensaver fails.

Slw mouse crawl? Happens fairly often with my optical mouse. Next time it 
happens you might want to check whether your mouse is on the run.
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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

[Carl Hartung]

On Wed November 7 2007 12:21:07 pm Josef Assad wrote:
> Carl Hartung wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > What is the preferred method for submitting a new package recommendation
> > to the openSUSE project?
>
> 
>
> http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist

Thanks, Josef, I see someone's already added glom to the wishlist.

regards,

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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Ed McCanless]

Fernando Costa wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some days ago I began to receive the following message: "Your hard disk
> drive is failing! S.M.A.R.T. message: Device: /dev/sda, 1 currently
> unreadable (pending) sector" I don't know what it refers to but I have
> run a Live Gparted CD to check the entire hard disk (200 GB) and some
> inodes where repaired but the message is still showing up when I restart
> the computer. Any idea on what to do?
>
> Thanks,
>   
Go ahead and get another drive, copy everything to it, and be ready for
the failure.  Use your current drive as long as you like, but be aware
that anything not backed up will be lost eventually.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone interested in helping me create multimedia content/courses for Linux?

[Michael Hasenstein]

Hi,


Uhm, not directly related, but I'm just throwing up ideas here.


Oh it is related, don't worry!


The mention of Flash reminds me of Moonlight
(http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight). If its something on open
source, I thought it'd be more appropriate if we can present it with
something that is open source as well. Of course this is assuming that
Moonlight is ready. Let me state that I hardly know anything about it
except from what I hear from the news and podcasts. Anyone has any
updates/more info regarding it?


That isn't quite open source... that is Microsoft Silverlight, which is 
being developed by Microsoft to compete with Adobe. They do NOT open 
source it, and they don't really support moonlight, they just tolerate it.


It is important to know that only the player(!) will be available on 
Linux, moonlight does not include all the tools, which will remain 
Microsoft-only. Adobe's Flex SDK - the Enterprise platform for Flash, 
Adobe Flash CS3 is the "animation oriented Flash design platform" - is 
available for Mac and for Linux as well, and the SDK is free 
(http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/downloads/). Also, Adobe contributed 
the Actionscript 3 engine to the Mozilla team 
(http://www.mozilla.org/projects/tamarin/). Of course Adobe does that 
because it wants domination and not because they want to be nice, but 
I'd wager to say this is better than how Microsoft tries to dominate.


While I really don't like Adobe all that much (but there products are 
quite good - most of them), I'm not sure I would like to support 
Microsoft by using Silverlight. That's politics - but also from a 
technology point of view it doesn't make any sense. Silverlight is Beta, 
Flash has been out there for many years. Almost no one has Silverlight. 
Almost everyone has Flash. Same with available developers.


So for now, I won't consider Silverlight.

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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

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> 
> What is the preferred method for submitting a new package recommendation to 
> the openSUSE project?



http://en.opensuse.org/Package_Wishlist




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[opensuse] Error Message

[chika]

i got many dialog box after i login on my box.

the message is "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream" the
window title is "Sorry - $app"
$app = Kate, Konqueror, KDesktop, KDE-panel, and all program that i closed
before i end my session

the desktop-panel won't work before i close all message box

any idea to get rid of these problem?


br,

tambun

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone interested in helping me create multimedia content/courses for Linux?

[jdd]

Michael Hasenstein wrote:

translate ;-)  Suggestion: go ahead and get yourself letexa.fr and start 
translating! How about it?


I'll see. Be aware that I'm extremely busy and on an unpredicable 
manner - my daughter is a singer and need me sometimes, I can't know 
when and I must leave what I do for some days. I also have many works 
(I'm retired, the most busy category :-)


but anyway I want to help, and can host some sort of files, as I own a 
hosted computer here http://www.kimsufi.com/

(my own is here:http://ks2829.kimsufi.com/)

I can share, say 10Gb for this app as a ftp or similar, with a 100Mb 
bandwith (symetrical)


but this is very new for me and far from being completely setup (run 
openSUSE 10.2) - lately it will replace my dodin.org server. I can 
host a domain name, but this may be too early



Sure:
http://letexa.com/contributors.php


done


Basically anything as far as I'm concerned


well... this don't seems efficient to me. We need to have some sort of 
common layout.



inside a .flv.


I use flv, but only as pure video files 
(http://dodin.valerie.free.fr/valerie.html)



One thing that must be in the script


I'm able to pruduce a script (as in a movie production, descriptive 
text), but I don't think you speak of this kind of script :-)



timing, for example because someone provides a different voiceover


an other of my daughters is a voice over professional (but so don't do 
it for free :-(), and I just order a "zoom h2" for doing similar 
things http://www.thomann.de/fr/zoom_h2_bundle.htm


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] mplayer controls unresponsive

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> 
> mine is MPlayer_1.0_rc2 before i've installed rc1(not work well with the
> sound), my advice update the newest.

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Re: [opensuse] Anyone interested in helping me create multimedia content/courses for Linux?

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On Nov 7, 2007 9:57 PM, Michael Hasenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jdd wrote:
> > Michael Hasenstein wrote:
> >> jdd wrote:
> >>> I may be interested, depending on the content. I'm not at all a flash
> >>> programmer, but can help in translating to french if applicable.
> >>
> >> Well, the content is up to you...
> >
> > if  act only as a translator, i wont :-)
>
> True enough... have a look at the current content (see the script links)
> and at the website. It's not much but I guess that can also be a plus,
> imagine you want to start and there are thousands of hours of text to
> translate ;-)  Suggestion: go ahead and get yourself letexa.fr and start
> translating! How about it? I'd of course give you access to the current
> webserver. The disadvantage of my shared hosting: I cannot host anything
> but .com, .net, .org, .us. It's no use setting up an IP to my current
> webserver, because I cannot change its Apache configuration so I cannot
> add another name-based virtual host. That means the only way to host
> another domain for me is an HTML redirect, i.e. somewhere a webserver
> must exist that answers to letexa.other-toplevel-domain and serves the
> browser an HTML file with a redirect to http://letexa.com/whatever/
>
>
> > 1) may be we should move to an other mailing list?
>
> Sure:
> http://letexa.com/contributors.php
>
>
> > 2) we must make clear what is the source material support (video,
> > drawings, impress, source code...) making video is very long..
>
> Basically anything as far as I'm concerned, since I can read all
> "standard" formats and everything from Adobe (.ai, .fla, .indd, etc.).
> So I'd need the script, everything the script references (pictures,
> sounds, texts, animations, videos) and an audio file with the spoken
> script. I put together the .swf, convert the audio file into an mp3
> inside a .flv. Adobes video file format .flv can also serve as an
> audio-only container - with this crucial benefit to pure MP3: .flv's can
> have meta information like CUE POINTS.
>
> One thing that must be in the script is cue point information. At what
> time should what happen (display this picture, start that animation,
> hide that previously shown text, etc.)? I add those cue points to the
> flv, and THAT is what makes the presentation "tick". All info about when
> an action should start is embedded with the audio. So to get different
> timing, for example because someone provides a different voiceover for
> the same content, I don't have to change the .swf. I just recode the
> audio file with different cue point info!
>
> Okay, details... one of those which I have to describe.
>
> I still have lots of things to describe and lay open before you...
>
> Michael
>
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Uhm, not directly related, but I'm just throwing up ideas here.

The mention of Flash reminds me of Moonlight
(http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight). If its something on open
source, I thought it'd be more appropriate if we can present it with
something that is open source as well. Of course this is assuming that
Moonlight is ready. Let me state that I hardly know anything about it
except from what I hear from the news and podcasts. Anyone has any
updates/more info regarding it?

Re: [opensuse] mplayer controls unresponsive

[chika]

what version of MPlayer do you have???

mine is MPlayer_1.0_rc2 before i've installed rc1(not work well with the
sound), my advice update the newest.


good luck,

tambun

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> One of the things I like about mplayer is the control you get. I always
> twiddle with the contrast and saturation (keys 1/2, 3/4 respectively)
> but in 10.3 these are unresponsive.
>
> Pressing 1/2 gives me the OSD scrollbar but it is pegged at 0 and
> doesn't move. 3/4 the same, except it's pegged at 50%.
>
> Using -vo xv makes no difference. Any pointers on how I might
> troubleshoot this before I submit something to the bugzilla?
>
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> JA
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[opensuse] file types

[Istvan Gabor]

Hello list users:

How kde decides (konqueror, krusader) the type of a file?
Sometimes the file's icon in krusader does not correspond to 
the extension.
Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse] How to tell SuSE folks to NOT include yealink driver in their distro

[Chee How Chua]

Thanks for the clear explanation!

On Nov 7, 2007 2:41 AM, Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 16:54:22 Chee How Chua wrote:
> > > echo "install yealink   /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/yealink
> > >
> > > should help with that too.
> > >
> > > darix
> >
> > Can you kindly explain what effect this line has? I know that it will
> > create/append a file named 'yealink' under /etc/modprobe.d, and that
> > this file will contain the line 'install yealink  /bin/true'. But what
> > will happen when you do this?
>
> It will prevent the module "yealink" from ever being loaded.
>
> The "install" directive tells modprobe what to do instead of loading the
> module. It can for example be used if certain commands need to be run before
> a module is loaded, in which case the line would contain those commands, and
> end with another call to modprobe
>
> In this case it will only run the command /bin/true, which does nothing and
> returns successfully
>
> Anders
>
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> Chee How Chua wrote:
> >> echo "install yealink   /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/yealink
> >>
> >> should help with that too.
> >
> > Can you kindly explain what effect this line has? I know that it will
> > create/append a file named 'yealink' under /etc/modprobe.d, and that
> > this file will contain the line 'install yealink  /bin/true'. But what
> > will happen when you do this?
>
> You should read "man modprobe.conf". An "install" primitive like the one
> mentioned above in modprobe's configuration file will tell modprobe to
> run the specified command /bin/true instead of actually inserting the
> module in the kernel. In other words, whenever modprobe receives the
> command to load the "yealink" module, it will run /bin/true instead
> which always returns successful. The solution presented above will
> therefore effectively prevent the loading of the yealink kernel module
> via modprobe. However, using insmod might still work for the yealink module.
>
> Cheers, Th.
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Re: [opensuse] gnome-system-monitor: crashing with a "Segmentation Fault"

[Roberto Mannai]

Submitted as #Bug 339858.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=339858

Regards
Roberto Mannai

On Nov 7, 2007 5:37 AM, JP Rosevear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 15:56 +0100, Roberto Mannai wrote:
> > Hi all
> > I'm trying to run "gnome-system-monitor", but it crashes with a
> > "Segmentation Fault" message.
> >
> > Versions:
> > - gnome-system-monitor-2.20.0-3
> > - opensuse 10.3 - kernel 2.6.22.9-0.4-default
> >
> > Any idea?
>
> Please file a bug with a back trace.
> http://en.opensuse.org/GNOME/Submitting_Bugs
>
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Re: [opensuse] Re: Networking Reachability Problem

[Dave Howorth]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Sunday 04 November 2007 09:58, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have an odd problem that I don't understand and wonder if anyone
>> can shed some light on it.
>>
>> ...
> 
> Based on off-list correspondence with G. T. Smith, I have already 
> removed the wire link from the broadband router to the 10.3 box. It 
> wasn't worth the trouble it was causing and I don't have a lot of time 
> to spend on it. My overriding concern is to make the 10.3 box reachable 
> from the Internet.
> 
> At some point, I may try to reestablish the DHCP link from the NAT side 
> of the wireless router once I learn more about what's required to make 
> such a topology function properly.
> 
> On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:19, Jeff Hoare wrote:
>> Do you have the routing tables for the devices? Have you done a
>> traceroute to see where the routing goes (both directions) ?
> 
> Not any longer. Yesterday I removed the cable from the wireless router 
> to the 10.3 box and disabled that interface.

One thing that's puzzled me about this correspondence is why you didn't
provide any information about the interfaces or routing tables even when
asked? It would have helped people help you.

For people to understand how the network is set up and why it's not
functioning right, it's useful to run something like:

  netstat -r
  /sbin/ifconfig
  /usr/sbin/traceroute 

on each of the hosts that are involved and post the results. The method
of getting similar information from a router depends on it's interface.
I hope that will help anybody else with a similar problem and perhaps
you if you try again.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [opensuse] kdar for 10.3 - SOLVED

[Istvan Gabor]

>I could 
> not find  version 2.0.7 on sourceforge so I found it 
somewhere else. I 
then 
> did a checkinstall instead of make install and I now have the 
rpm.

The kdar 2.0.7 src is here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=96947

I have not tried to make an rpm package yet but I will try one 
time.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse] Will we ever see ifconfig as a user?

[Randall R Schulz]

On Wednesday 07 November 2007 01:27, G T Smith wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:51, Sunny wrote:
> >> On Nov 6, 2007 5:46 PM, Ben Kevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> I am sure this has been discussed before, but will openSUSE ever
> >>> allow the user to run ifconfig? or allow it to be run via sudo
>
> 
>
> > It would seem that many consider these programs the equivalent of
> > loaded guns ...
> >
> > Thus, to protect idiots from themselves, ...
>
> lol
>
> I am sincerely hoping you are not entirely serious

Wow. I thought it was clear I was being entirely humorous.

I'll have to work on that...


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[opensuse] corrupted files on DVD backup

[Istvan Gabor]

Hello list users:

Recently I met a very strange problem.
I posted it at the neroLINUX forum at cdfreaks but did not get 
any usable answer. Here I copy my message:

Some time ago I used neroLINUX 3 (version 3.0.0.0) to burn 
my files onto a DVD-RW (TDK DVD-RW 4X 4.7 GB).
The burn-process ran well and also 'verifying written data' was 
completed with no errors found.
Recently I wanted to read my files from the DVD and all of 
them are corrupted.
These are pdf, rar and zip files and some mp3s.
The directory listings are correct but none of the pdfs can be 
opened and rar/zip-s can be uncompressed.

If I start to play an mp3 file from the DVD, however, the file is 
opened,  but the first few seconds of the song is from the end 
of another song.

So it looks like that the DVD's directory listing is right, but 
somehow the starting points of the files on the DVD are shifted 
and this makes the files seem corrupt.

My question is how I could recover my data from the DVD.
Would is be possible by setting the offset of DVD reader?
How could I find out what offset to use?

Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

[Josef Assad]

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Carl Hartung wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> What is the preferred method for submitting a new package recommendation to 
> the openSUSE project? While researching gui database frontends I 
> located 'glom' and it looks extremely promising. There are currently packages 
> available for Ubuntu, Fedora, Gentoo and Mandriva.

There's that, and then there's pgadmin3 which was requested some time
ago (I'd actually built a 1.6.3 package, but smarter souls have built an
1.8 package).

I'd be curious - along the same line of questioning here - to know what
the procedure is for getting something in the main distribution. That
or,for example, a more popular community repo.



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Re: [opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

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> What is the preferred method for submitting a new package
> recommendation to the openSUSE project?

aiui, bugzilla.novell.com

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[opensuse] Re: Networking Reachability Problem

[Randall R Schulz]

On Sunday 04 November 2007 09:58, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an odd problem that I don't understand and wonder if anyone
> can shed some light on it.
>
> ...

Based on off-list correspondence with G. T. Smith, I have already 
removed the wire link from the broadband router to the 10.3 box. It 
wasn't worth the trouble it was causing and I don't have a lot of time 
to spend on it. My overriding concern is to make the 10.3 box reachable 
from the Internet.

At some point, I may try to reestablish the DHCP link from the NAT side 
of the wireless router once I learn more about what's required to make 
such a topology function properly.


On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:19, Jeff Hoare wrote:
> Do you have the routing tables for the devices? Have you done a
> traceroute to see where the routing goes (both directions) ?

Not any longer. Yesterday I removed the cable from the wireless router 
to the 10.3 box and disabled that interface.


On Wednesday 07 November 2007 00:18, Rodney Baker wrote:
> Looking at your connection diagram, it appears as though you could
> have a routing loop if you really have 2 connections between the
> 8-port switch and the 10.3 box (one direct, one via the wireless
> router).

Yes, I do. I did fail to mention that the wireless router is applying 
NAT and the DHCP-supplied IP addresses are non-routeable. The same page 
allows the establishment of up to twenty static routes, but I have none 
defined.


> What firmware are you running in the WRT54G? Is it configured to
> support spanning-tree routing?

The main page of the configuration interface says "Firmware Version 
1.00.6". On the Advanced Routing page, there are two modes Gateway and 
Router. It's set on Router


> if not, try removing one of the links to the 10.3 box (probably the
> one to the wireless router). The wireless clients should be able to
> route to the 10.3 box via the ethernet switch.

I did that yesterday. It's working, but now I cannot access the NAT side 
of the wireless router from the 10.3 box, which was why I added the 
cable from that box to the wireless router.


Thanks for the help, folks.

Randall Schulz
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[opensuse] Re: HOWTO: ivman, fixed mount-points and growisofs

[Joachim Schrod]

Frank Steiner wrote:


I post a solution we found (partially with the help of the
SuSE support) for other people here that may have similar
problems, and to be found via archives/Google :-)


Great HOWTO -- thanks a lot!

Joachim

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Re: [opensuse] YaST Backup system

[Adam Jimerson]

On Tuesday 06 November 2007 10:50:03 pm Bryen wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 22:47 -0500, Adam Jimerson wrote:
> > I need help figuring out how to get the YaST back up system be able to
> > correctly back up my home partition.  I had it set up and ran it, when
> > the back up program finished I had two files one .tar and the other a
> > .xml file. The thing that throws me off is that the .tar file is only 10
> > KB and the .xml file is 676 B when my home folder is 12 GB.  By looks
> > that does not look right, and when I run the System Restore and it
> > complains about how the .tar file is not a correct back up file.
>
> have you looked at the contents of the tar file to see what exactly was
> copied?
>
> tar -xvf tarfilename
>
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The only thing that is in the tar file is a YaST2 backup: file, unknown file 
type and is 0 B in size.
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[opensuse] package recommendations/requests?

[Carl Hartung]

Hi All,

What is the preferred method for submitting a new package recommendation to 
the openSUSE project? While researching gui database frontends I 
located 'glom' and it looks extremely promising. There are currently packages 
available for Ubuntu, Fedora, Gentoo and Mandriva.

Here's the info:

http://www.glom.org/

Required libraries:
Bakery 2.4 (requires libxml++, gtkmm, libglademm, gconfmm, and gnome-vfsmm)
libgdamm 2 (using libgda with support for PostgreSQL)
Python >=2.2
PyGtk
PyGda (from gnome-python-extras)
GtkSourceView
iso-codes

TIA & regards,

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Anyone interested in helping me create multimedia content/courses for Linux?

[Michael Hasenstein]

jdd wrote:

Michael Hasenstein wrote:

jdd wrote:
I may be interested, depending on the content. I'm not at all a flash 
programmer, but can help in translating to french if applicable.


Well, the content is up to you...


if  act only as a translator, i wont :-)


True enough... have a look at the current content (see the script links) 
and at the website. It's not much but I guess that can also be a plus, 
imagine you want to start and there are thousands of hours of text to 
translate ;-)  Suggestion: go ahead and get yourself letexa.fr and start 
translating! How about it? I'd of course give you access to the current 
webserver. The disadvantage of my shared hosting: I cannot host anything 
but .com, .net, .org, .us. It's no use setting up an IP to my current 
webserver, because I cannot change its Apache configuration so I cannot 
add another name-based virtual host. That means the only way to host 
another domain for me is an HTML redirect, i.e. somewhere a webserver 
must exist that answers to letexa.other-toplevel-domain and serves the 
browser an HTML file with a redirect to http://letexa.com/whatever/




1) may be we should move to an other mailing list?


Sure:
http://letexa.com/contributors.php


2) we must make clear what is the source material support (video, 
drawings, impress, source code...) making video is very long..


Basically anything as far as I'm concerned, since I can read all 
"standard" formats and everything from Adobe (.ai, .fla, .indd, etc.). 
So I'd need the script, everything the script references (pictures, 
sounds, texts, animations, videos) and an audio file with the spoken 
script. I put together the .swf, convert the audio file into an mp3 
inside a .flv. Adobes video file format .flv can also serve as an 
audio-only container - with this crucial benefit to pure MP3: .flv's can 
have meta information like CUE POINTS.


One thing that must be in the script is cue point information. At what 
time should what happen (display this picture, start that animation, 
hide that previously shown text, etc.)? I add those cue points to the 
flv, and THAT is what makes the presentation "tick". All info about when 
an action should start is embedded with the audio. So to get different 
timing, for example because someone provides a different voiceover for 
the same content, I don't have to change the .swf. I just recode the 
audio file with different cue point info!


Okay, details... one of those which I have to describe.

I still have lots of things to describe and lay open before you...

Michael


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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[James Knott]

Billie Walsh wrote:
> Fernando Costa wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Some days ago I began to receive the following message: "Your hard disk
>> drive is failing! S.M.A.R.T. message: Device: /dev/sda, 1 currently
>> unreadable (pending) sector" I don't know what it refers to but I have
>> run a Live Gparted CD to check the entire hard disk (200 GB) and some
>> inodes where repaired but the message is still showing up when I restart
>> the computer. Any idea on what to do?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   
>> 
>
>
> Don't know if this helps, but a few years ago I had a computer that was
> saying the same thing. I couldn't find anything wrong with the drive so
> I turned off smart and used it another couple years before it finally
> failed.
>   
One thing to bear in mind, is that drives have spare sectors, which get
used as others fail.  The warning is to tell you that the drive is well
on it's way to failing and should be replaced ASAP.  You were lucky that
it didn't fail sooner.  What you did, is comparable to disabling the
engine light on a car, rather than fixing what's causing it to turn on.


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[opensuse] Re: Compiz_Fusion No# of desktops

[Eberhard Roloff]

Matthew Stringer wrote:
> Despite having all settings I can see set to 4 desktops it always shows 16 of 
> them on the task bar which is a bit pointless and takes up almost the bar.
> 
> If I stop CF it drops back to 4, any ideas what I could be missing, otherwise 
> it's working fine on my 10.3 i386 machine.
> 
> Matthew
same here.

To have 4 Desktops in compiz (after all, how many sides can you use on
the cube for displaying your desktop?), I had to configure just one in
compiz by right clicking on the desktop and choosing properties.

I did not manage to have different desktop wallpapers in compiz, just
the firest of my "normal" KDE is used.

For me this allows me four "desktops" i.e. cube sides in compiz. After I
disable compiz I am automatically back to my usual 4 KDE Desktops with a
different background for each.

Well, it's still kind of experimental, isn't it?

kind regards
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Hard Disk Failing

[Billie Walsh]

On 11/06/2007 Tom Peters wrote:
Billie wrote:
> > Don't know if this helps, but a few years ago I had a computer that
> was
> > saying the same thing. I couldn't find anything wrong with the
> drive so
> > I turned off smart and used it another couple years before it
> finally
> > failed.
>
> Just because you got lucky, doesn't mean  he will. Why risk someone
> else's data? If SMART says he has sectors that can't be read and are
> pending relocation, he should dig into the drive and find out what's
> happening.

I never said he should just ignore it. I checked my drive before I did
anything. I think I said that in my post above. However, sometimes [
SOMETIMES ] SMART isn't quite as smart as it thinks it is. AFTER I
checked my drive and found nothing wrong I turned it off because I got
tired of the nagging at start up.

In my experience, somewhat limited I admit, I've had more drives just
quit without warning than with. I used to burn up drives in about two to
three years because I VERY seldom turn off my computer. Some of them
made a bit of noise as a warning before they went tits-up. Some didn't,
just dies on the spot. I think they have made improvements in later
years as they seem to be lasting longer.
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[opensuse] Compiz_Fusion No# of desktops

[Matthew Stringer]

Despite having all settings I can see set to 4 desktops it always shows 16 of 
them on the task bar which is a bit pointless and takes up almost the bar.

If I stop CF it drops back to 4, any ideas what I could be missing, otherwise 
it's working fine on my 10.3 i386 machine.

Matthew



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[opensuse] [OFF] Canon imageCLASS® MF5770

[anckerDJ]

Friends,

Any idea how to install Canon imageCLASS® MF5770 (only printer function) on 
Opensuse 10.2?

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Re: [opensuse] Slow printing on Linux

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The Wednesday 2007-11-07 at 02:32 -0800, Ti Kan wrote:


You didn't read my post carefully.  The printer is connected to the same
Linux machine in all cases.  The Windows machine prints to this printer
via a samba share.


Ah, I forgot.

All I can say is that by default linux uses polling, which is safer 
because it doesn't need configuration, but slower (uses more cpu). I did 
notice the difference when I configured the irq some years back.



Anyway, as I posted in another message, the problem is now solved.
I switched to using a different PPD file and it now prints as fast
on Linux as it does from Windows.


Yes, I read that too.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow printing on Linux

[Ti Kan]

Carlos E. R. writes:
> The Tuesday 2007-11-06 at 19:12 -0800, Ti Kan wrote:
> > Carlos E. R. writes:
> >> If it affects all print jobs, it might be the port. You can configure it
> >> to use an IRQ, which is faster:
> >>
> >> /etc/modprobe.conf.local:
> >>
> >> options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
> >>
> >> Of course, you have to verify the settings in your bios previously.
> >
> > If the port is the issue, then wouldn't it affect printouts from
> > the Windows machine equally?
> 
> No, it wouldn't, because windows could be using the irq: whether one system 
> uses the irq, dma, or polling method to access the printer port is 
> independent of what the other systems uses.

You didn't read my post carefully.  The printer is connected to the same
Linux machine in all cases.  The Windows machine prints to this printer
via a samba share.

Anyway, as I posted in another message, the problem is now solved.
I switched to using a different PPD file and it now prints as fast
on Linux as it does from Windows.

-Ti

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[opensuse] Where is xterm unreadable font?

[Carlos E. R.]

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Hi,

In xterm the font size can be selected with ctrl + right click:

  Default
  Unicode-best
  Tiny
  Small
  Medium
  Large
  Huge

I remember that a few versions back there was another one named 
"unreadable" because it was so small - but it was very useful when I 
wanted to select large text areas.


How can I enable it back?

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Re: [opensuse] Networking Reachability Problem

[Jeff Hoare]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have an odd problem that I don't understand and wonder if anyone can 
> shed some light on it.
>
> Here's the setup:
>
> - 2 systems: one runs SuSE Linux 10.0 and the other openSUSE 10.3
> - Four static IP addresses assigned by my ISP (using ADSL)
> - An IOGear Ethernet switch connecting the DSL modem to everything else
> - A LinkSys WRT54G wireless router / access point w/ 4 hard-wired ports
> - The 10.0 box has a single ethernet port connected to the IOGear switch
> - The 10.3 box has two ethernet ports, one connected to the IOGear 
> switch (and hence directly to the Internet) and the other connected by 
> cable to the LinkSys router
> - The router, the 10.0 box and port of the 10.3 box wired directly to 
> the IOGear switch each have statically configured IP addresses
> - Everything accessing the Internet via the LinkSys router / access 
> point (including a couple of Macs, my TiVO and one of the ports on the 
> 10.3 box) use DHCP.
>
>
> The problem (as far as I know, the _only_ problem with the whole setup) 
> is that I cannot connect from the Internet to the 10.3 box using it's 
> global, routable IP address, though there's no problem doing the same 
> with the 10.0 box.
>
> Furthermore, computers connected wirelessly to the LinkSys access point 
> _can_ access the 10.3 box _using the global, routable IP address_.
>
>
> Can anyone tell me what might be wrong with the configuration and how I 
> might fix it so that the 10.3 box can be reached from the global 
> Internet?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Randall Schulz
>   
Do you have the routing tables for the devices? Have you done a
traceroute to see where the routing goes (both directions) ?

Regards Jeff


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Re: [opensuse] Will we ever see ifconfig as a user?

[jdd]

On Nov 6, 2007 5:46 PM, Ben Kevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I am sure this has been discussed before, but will openSUSE ever
allow the user to run ifconfig? or allow it to be run via sudo


but it do, as always, just run /sbin/ifconfig...

jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Slow printing on Linux

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Tuesday 2007-11-06 at 19:12 -0800, Ti Kan wrote:


Carlos E. R. writes:

If it affects all print jobs, it might be the port. You can configure it
to use an IRQ, which is faster:

/etc/modprobe.conf.local:

options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

Of course, you have to verify the settings in your bios previously.


If the port is the issue, then wouldn't it affect printouts from
the Windows machine equally?


No, it wouldn't, because windows could be using the irq: whether one system 
uses the irq, dma, or polling method to access the printer port is 
independent of what the other systems uses.


It's worth a try; it might not be your problem, but it will improve things 
a bit.



However, your problem sounds familiar, I think I read about a similar 
problem with an HP laerjet years ago in this list, but I don't remember 
what it was... and I might be imagining it.


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Re: [opensuse] Will we ever see ifconfig as a user?

[G T Smith]

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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 November 2007 15:51, Sunny wrote:
>> On Nov 6, 2007 5:46 PM, Ben Kevan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I am sure this has been discussed before, but will openSUSE ever
>>> allow the user to run ifconfig? or allow it to be run via sudo


> 
> It would seem that many consider these programs the equivalent of loaded 
> guns whose bullets ineluctably seek the critical regions of the user's 
> system and, furthermore, that non-root users are universally idiotic.
> 
> Thus, to protect idiots from themselves, all users must enter the root 
> password that they themselves chose when installing the system. This 
> places the person who can accomplish this task in the upper one quarter 
> of human intelligence. Those that can figure out how to use an absolute 
> path name or change their PATH variable are clearly among the genius 
> and are thus on their own.
> 
> 

lol

I am sincerely hoping you are not entirely serious

Security is as much a mindset as a set of tools. People of all levels of
experience make mistakes. Distinguishing between 'working on the system'
with a special account from 'working with the system' with a working
account is a useful safety check ...

There little distinction in end result to having no safety and
accidentally shooting yourself in the foot; and having a safety, taking
the safety of and deliberately shooting oneself in the foot. Except
usually in the first instance you can blame whoever designed the gun,
and in the second it would be your fault...

One I can I suppose build systems which are more idiot proof... but as
someone pointed out this does not work out, they just build a better
class of idiot :-/




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> 
> 
> RRS


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Re: [opensuse] Networking Reachability Problem

[Rodney Baker]

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Monday 05 November 2007 00:48, G T Smith wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have an odd problem that I don't understand and wonder if anyone
> > > can shed some light on it.
> > >
> > > Here's the setup:
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > The problem (as far as I know, the _only_ problem with the whole
> > > setup) is that I cannot connect from the Internet to the 10.3 box
> > > using it's global, routable IP address, though there's no problem
> > > doing the same with the 10.0 box.
> > >
> > > Furthermore, computers connected wirelessly to the LinkSys access
> > > point _can_ access the 10.3 box _using the global, routable IP
> > > address_.
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me what might be wrong with the configuration and
> > > how I might fix it so that the 10.3 box can be reached from the
> > > global Internet?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Randall Schulz
> >
> > Ok text pictures
>
> No OK in my book.
>
> I've attached a PNG image showing the topology of my network.
>
>
> Randall Schulz

Looking at your connection diagram, it appears as though you could have a 
routing loop if you really have 2 connections between the 8-port switch and 
the 10.3 box (one direct, one via the wireless router).

What firmware are you running in the WRT54G? Is it configured to support 
spanning-tree routing?

if not, try removing one of the links to the 10.3 box (probably the one to the 
wireless router). The wireless clients should be able to route to the 10.3 
box via the ethernet switch.

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Re: [opensuse] viewing current list online

[jdd]

Patrick Shanahan wrote:


possible solution:


use gmane news groups gmane.linux.suse.opensuse.user

jdd
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Re: [opensuse] Anyone interested in helping me create multimedia content/courses for Linux?

[jdd]

Michael Hasenstein wrote:

jdd wrote:
I may be interested, depending on the content. I'm not at all a flash 
programmer, but can help in translating to french if applicable.


Well, the content is up to you...


if  act only as a translator, i wont :-)

but

1) may be we should move to an other mailing list?

2) we must make clear what is the source material support (video, 
drawings, impress, source code...) making video is very long..


jdd

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Re: [opensuse] GTK2 updated for Evol 2.12

[Hans van der Merwe]

On Wed, 2007-11-07 at 08:31 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 08:31 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > last week I tried to update Evolution to ver 2.12 from the Gnome Stable
> > repo.
> > Unfortunately it didnt work because the required GTK2 upgrades are not
> > installed (RPM not complete?)
> > So I installed all the gtk2 stuff I could find until evol started
> > working again.  Now my question is, how do I get my gtk theme to look
> > like KDE?  The "GTK Styles and Fonts" in kcontrol is not working?  I can
> > set it to QT style (looks better), but "Use my KDE style in GTK" is not
> > doing anything?
> > 
> > Hans
> 
> Update.
> I tried to update gtk-qt-engine, but the last rpm I could find is
> gtk-qt-engine-0.7cvs20061120-4.
> Anyone know if this project is still alive?
> Will I have to live with separate themes for Gnome and KDE apps from now
> on? (I hope not)
> 
> Hans

Just for completeness, if anyone is following this.
I compiled version 0.8 from source and Im glad to say it works again.

Hans



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Re: [opensuse] Thinkpad T60p install

[Carlos F Lange]

On Tue November 6 2007 11:25, Mr Banana wrote:
> The
> only big issue seems to be when the screen saver/lock kicks in -
> sometimes it covers just 3/4 of the screen and often doesn't pop up
> the login box.

It's not a driver problem, I think.
I have the same weird behaviour (screen saver covers only 800x600) with 
an Intel 945 GM card.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow printing on Linux

[Ti Kan]

Joseph Loo writes:
> On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 19:12 -0800, Ti Kan wrote:
> > Carlos E. R. writes:
> > > The Tuesday 2007-11-06 at 12:45 -0800, Ti Kan wrote:
> > > > I have an old HP Laserjet 4ML Postscript printer connected to the
> > > > parallel port of my SUSE 10.0 machine, running CUPS and configured
> > > ...
> > > > Anyone could offer an explanation why it's so slow on Linux?
> > > 
> > > If it affects all print jobs, it might be the port. You can configure it 
> > > to use an IRQ, which is faster:
> > > 
> > > /etc/modprobe.conf.local:
> > > 
> > > options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
> > > 
> > > Of course, you have to verify the settings in your bios previously.
> > 
> > If the port is the issue, then wouldn't it affect printouts from
> > the Windows machine equally?  As I said in my original message,
> > the same type of print job sent from a Windows box over samba to this
> > printer prints very quickly.
> > 
> > -Ti
>
> My first question is how much memory do you have for the postscript
> printer. I fyou are using the standard amount of memory in the printer
> all for except text, the printing will be pretty slow. I f you are
> mixing text and image, you need more than the standard 4 Mbytes (I think
> that is the standard amount). When I had my postscript printer, I had 96
> Mbytes, but it was optra 70 color inkjet.
> 
> You may want to reconfigure the cups and use the pcl print driver and
> let the computer do the postscript conversion.

OK, I ran Yast and changed the PPD file from "HP LaserJet 4ML v2013.003
Postscript (recommended) (manufacturer-PPDs/hp/HP_LaserJet_4ML.ppd.gz" to
"HP LaserJet 4ML Foomatic/ljet4 (HP/LaserJet_4ML-ljet4.ppd.gz)" and
printing from Linux is now fast.  I don't know if this is what you
suggested, but it works.

Thanks for the suggestions.

-Ti

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