Re: [opensuse-factory] Glibc 2.7

2008-01-12 Thread Cristian Rodríguez

Cristian Rodríguez escribió:

Jan Engelhardt escribió:

is it still possible to put Glibc 2.7 into opensuse 11?



already in BETA ;-)




now in STABLE, should be there in the next factory sync..


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[opensuse] how to change the default email quota

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos

hello
i have one SLES 10 with cyrus and posfix
the defaul email quota is 10Mb.
how can i chage to 20Mb using yast?
thanks
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[opensuse] strange IP

2008-01-12 Thread jdd

Hello :-))

Any time networkmanager fail to find a dhcp server (for example if 
there are none available :-)) it gives me the IP 169.254.16.90


shouldn't it continue searching (may be the server is just rebooting) 
and from where do this IP come?? (I have no idea, never used such one 
and nslookup dont give anything)


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Re: [opensuse] how to change the default email quota

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 10:41 +0100, Carlos wrote:


hello
i have one SLES 10 with cyrus and posfix
the defaul email quota is 10Mb.
how can i chage to 20Mb using yast?
thanks


The normal way would be to edit /etc/postfix/main.cf, but if you want to 
use yast, add the variable here:


/etc/sysconfig/postfix:

POSTFIX_ADD_MAILBOX_SIZE_LIMIT=5120
POSTFIX_ADD_MESSAGE_SIZE_LIMIT=3000


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Re: [opensuse] strange IP

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 10:59 +0100, jdd wrote:

Any time networkmanager fail to find a dhcp server (for example if there are 
none available :-)) it gives me the IP 169.254.16.90


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf

:-)


shouldn't it continue searching (may be the server is just rebooting) and


There may be a timeout configuration somewhere.

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Re: [opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4

2008-01-12 Thread Paul Hands
Chris Arnold wrote:
 The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the kmenu. 
 In kde3-kmenu-applications-new programs, i see new apps listed. Does kde4 
 list new apps?
 Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)?
 Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks 
 and 
 did not launch.
 Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.
   
Chris,

I see all the same issues.  The panel particularly bugs me because I had
my KDE3 panel quite heavily customised.
Before I could even get it going, I had to install some extra stuff that
wasn't listed as dependencies.  I got the infamous Can't start kdeint4.
Check your installation message.  Turned out that I had to install
strigi-0.5.7-20.3 to get kdeinit4 to launch.  Only then would KDE4 run. 
I'm not even sure what strigi is.
Now it's running, it looks awful.  it's clunky and slow and things crash
randomly.  Klipper won't paste text from a bash terminal with middle
mouse click - I have to do paste without formatting from the context menu.

You could remove KDE3 and then install KDE4 from a curses yast2. KDE4
instals into a different place (/usr) from KDE3 (/opt), and they are
meant to be completely separated.

I'm disappointed in KDE4, and won't be removing KDE3 for some time yet. 
One of the KDE developers was saying online that it wasn't ready last
week, and recommending a further period of testing.  I agree.  I don't
think it's ready, and I think this release will damage KDE's
reputation.   For me, that's a real shame, as I've been a KDE user
exclusively since SuSE 5.1 came out.

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Re: [opensuse] strange IP

2008-01-12 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. a écrit :

Any time networkmanager fail to find a dhcp server (for example if 
there are none available :-)) it gives me the IP 169.254.16.90


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf

:-)


thanks, I never heard about this one before :-))

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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Kai Ponte wrote:

On Friday 21 December 2007 08:28, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

snippage


I just don't understand why it works so bad on such a good computer
and an average data load.

Simple, Gary.

It's poorly designed and/or written, because it's
behavior while executing is very careless, and consumes
resources far in excess of it's utility.

Beagle runs as if the whole reason for having data on a
computer is for beagle to have something to sort, rather
than that the purpose of beagle is to index the data
created and used by the programs that the user actually
wants to have the computer for.

The thing needs a complete overhaul.


Excellent idea, Aaron. 


I think I just read you volunteering.


Wrong.



Here you go...


I don't need this application in the first
place.  Why would I waste my time when there
are other things to do which I'm actually
interested in creating.


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Re: [opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4

2008-01-12 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 12 January 2008 04:43:50 am Paul Hands wrote:
 Chris Arnold wrote:
  The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the
  kmenu. In kde3-kmenu-applications-new programs, i see new apps listed.
  Does kde4 list new apps?
  Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)?
  Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question
  marks and did not launch.
  Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.

 Chris,

 I see all the same issues.  The panel particularly bugs me because I had
 my KDE3 panel quite heavily customised.
 Before I could even get it going, I had to install some extra stuff that
 wasn't listed as dependencies.  I got the infamous Can't start kdeint4.
 Check your installation message.  Turned out that I had to install
 strigi-0.5.7-20.3 to get kdeinit4 to launch.  Only then would KDE4 run.
 I'm not even sure what strigi is.
 Now it's running, it looks awful.  it's clunky and slow and things crash
 randomly.  Klipper won't paste text from a bash terminal with middle
 mouse click - I have to do paste without formatting from the context menu.

 You could remove KDE3 and then install KDE4 from a curses yast2. KDE4
 instals into a different place (/usr) from KDE3 (/opt), and they are
 meant to be completely separated.

 I'm disappointed in KDE4, and won't be removing KDE3 for some time yet.
 One of the KDE developers was saying online that it wasn't ready last
 week, and recommending a further period of testing.  I agree.  I don't
 think it's ready, and I think this release will damage KDE's
 reputation.   For me, that's a real shame, as I've been a KDE user
 exclusively since SuSE 5.1 came out.

 Paul

1) Found on link I gave before http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/KDE4 :
http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2008/01/talking-bluntly.html
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3174
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2600

2) What version you are running. Strigi was a problem for me with version 
provided with 10.3 release. 

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Re: [opensuse] [OT] spreadsheet data exchange format?

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Tuesday 2007-12-11 at 17:47 -0500, BandiPat wrote:


Simple solution to that problem.  A call to the BSA to alert them to the
company letting this happen.  Watch how quickly they lock it down or
change once a few fines are levied.


No, I will never do such a thing.

First, this is not the USA. Second, let that BSA watch their own
bussiness, I will not help them by accusing others. Third, I have to live.



They offer SUBSTANTIAL rewards for information about
software piracy. In the U.S., $100,000 is typical.

In some ways, the BSA is a thug organization set up
by some pretty thuggish companies (Microsoft).  On
the other hand, it's very existance is a good way
convert people TO Open Source software and so in
the long run, it actually erodes from the user base
of these companies (not only leechers, but paying
customers, too).


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Re: [opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4

2008-01-12 Thread ne . . .
On Jan 12, 2008 10:43 AM, Paul Hands [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris Arnold wrote:
[...]
 I'm disappointed in KDE4, and won't be removing KDE3 for some time yet.
Well my experience is different. This is the first time I have used openSUSE
on a permanent basis since I started using linux so eons ago. I
installed openSUSE
10.3 specifically because I could install  run KDE3  4. I use KDE4 exclusively
and have uninstalled most of the KDE3 rpms save for the base system. The only
thing I dislike is the default menu. However, there is an applet for
the KDE3 menu
which I use. The only thing that crashes for me is opera 9.5 beta.
Everything else
just works. Since the beta included in the 10.3 release, KDE4 has
improved in leaps
and bounds. Yes, this release of KDE4 is the start. Not everything has
been ported
over. It is the start of good things to come.

 One of the KDE developers was saying online that it wasn't ready last
 week, and recommending a further period of testing.
This happens with every large software project. It can also use a bit more
development, a bit more testing. Well, it has been released. You are going
to have to live with it. Is it prefect? No, but it is improving all the time.

  I don't
 think it's ready, and I think this release will damage KDE's
 reputation.   For me, that's a real shame, as I've been a KDE user
 exclusively since SuSE 5.1 came out.
Please, hold off on the negativity for now. I've used KDE exclusively
since 1.0beta3 which I compiled myself. This is one of the best .0
releases. Everything is not there yet. It will get there.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] What do you think about this?

2008-01-12 Thread Theo v. Werkhoven
Fri, 11 Jan 2008, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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  It's not realistic until an unexpected sound in the
  night makes you wake up in fear for your life
  
 
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  /dev/null
 
 enough *is* enough

Agreed.
I propose to kick everyone that cross posts off both lists.
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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-12 Thread peter

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Philipp Thomas wrote:

| Because you're not allowed to distribute the software as a directly
| installable RPM? A .src.rpm allows you to build such a package for
| yourself.

My saying; Legal issue! Have you taken a look into the spec file and the
installer patch? Thus  either the packager did not contact the vendor or
the vendor is just stubborn. I that case I would mind to put such
software in an official repository, but I'm not with Opensuse.

| Looks like you do have slightly bigger problems than me my friend.
| Me, problems? I tend to disagree with you :)

Well, at least I've learned something out of it and you've just put your
ego up front. So according to my standards you do have a slight problem
even if you deny it. ;)

However this part getting pretty off topic. If you still have the urge
to continue then please feel free to use a pm.

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Re: [opensuse] strange IP

2008-01-12 Thread James Knott
jdd wrote:
 Hello :-))

 Any time networkmanager fail to find a dhcp server (for example if
 there are none available :-)) it gives me the IP 169.254.16.90

 shouldn't it continue searching (may be the server is just rebooting)
 and from where do this IP come?? (I have no idea, never used such one
 and nslookup dont give anything)


That's a link local address.  The idea is you can connect two
computers together, without benefit of a DHCP server or manual
configuration.  The 169.254.x.x range is supposed to be blocked by
routers, so you should never see one of those addresses on the
internet.  Windows and Mac systems do it too.


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[opensuse] asus Eee mini laptop

2008-01-12 Thread James Tremblay

Hey guys Anybody try to get opensuse running on one of these yet?
I want to try getting SLED on one. Any thoughts?
JT

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[opensuse] Mail clock problem or mail hanging in the spool?

2008-01-12 Thread Rajko M.
Mail clock problem or mail hanging in the spool?

Examples:

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-12/msg01368.html
and answer
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2008-01/msg01084.html
a month later. With date: 
Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:15:42 -0500

Other header times:
Received: from snip; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:33:24 +0100 (CET)
Received: from snip; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:43:24 + (UTC)

or
  
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2007-12/msg02877.html
and answer
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2008-01/msg01083.html
a month later. Though date in header is 
Sat, 22 Dec 2007 18:09:01 -0500

Other header times:
Received: from snip; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:26:14 +0100 (CET)
Received: from snip; Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:36:52 + (UTC) 



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[opensuse] Which version is newer ?

2008-01-12 Thread Rajko M.

Package kde4-quanta:
3.93.0.svn712063-12  or 3.93.0.svn747181-2.3 
YaST SW Management thinks it is later. 

# zypper if kde4-quanta
snip
Name: kde4-quanta
Version: 3.93.0.svn712063-12
Arch: x86_64
Installed: Yes
Status: up-to-date
/snip

Obviously zypper is on the same side. 
Though there is no trace of any other version. 

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Re: [opensuse] sudo, and useradd

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis
Dirk Moolman wrote:
 I am trying to setup sudo rights on a specific user (username: test), to
 use the command: useradd
 
 I have not used sudo before, and I played around with /etc/sudoers a
 bit, but I keep getting the error:
 
   useradd -c JUST A TEST USER -d /home/test -s /usr/bin/ksh
 test2
   Cannot lock password file: already locked.
 
 
 My sudoers file looks like this currently:
 
 /etc/sudoers
 
 # create group LIMITEDTRUST with user test as a member
 User_Alias LIMITEDTRUST=test
 Cmnd_Alias PROGRAMS=/usr/sbin/useradd,/usr/bin/ksh
^

Are you crazy
You realize that by giving a user sudo access to ANY
shell (or even an editor which can spawn a shell,
like vi), that you are giving the user permission to
run ANY program.



 
 # members in the group LIMITEDTRUST are allowed to use sudo only with
 the commands listed in cmnd alias PROGRAMS
 
 #LIMITEDTRUST ALL=PROGRAMS, NOPASSWD:PROGRAMS
 LIMITEDTRUST ALL = ALL
 
 
 I am using Suse SLES9.
 
 What do I need to do / change to get user test to be able to use
 useradd ?


Getting useradd to work is the least of your worries
at the moment -- Get that ksh command out of there,
or else you will find one of your systems TOTALLY
screwed up when some user discovers that you're
allowing them to run a shell as super-user (root).


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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence (was: Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2008-01-12 Thread PerfectReign
On Fri, January 11, 2008 10:11 pm, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time
 ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?

ROTFL



 I understand the stresses placed on someone paid to wage war, kill and
 torture people in Iraq and other places, but not every participant
 glorifies the violence and that level of hate does not need to infect
 open source software mailinglists.

Welcome to the intraweb.

This is not RL.

HTH!



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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2008-01-12 Thread PerfectReign
On Sat, December 22, 2007 3:09 pm, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 Kai Ponte wrote:
 The thing needs a complete overhaul.

 Excellent idea, Aaron.

 I think I just read you volunteering.

 Wrong.


 Here you go...

 I don't need this application in the first
 place.  Why would I waste my time when there
 are other things to do which I'm actually
 interested in creating.

If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
fingers to the keyboard.

On my recent installs I've simply right-clicked on the beagled portion
and banned it from installing.

End of story.


Since you're whining so bloody much about it I figured you were either
(a) in love with the application or (b)wanting to write it yourself to
show the world your l33t ski11z.

You tell us.



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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence (was: Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2008-01-12 Thread JB2
On Sat 12 January 08 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:

 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?

 I understand the stresses placed on someone paid to wage war, kill and
 torture people in Iraq and other places, but not every participant
 glorifies the violence and that level of hate does not need to infect
 open source software mailinglists.

  Got yourself enough tissues for all those tears?
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RE: [opensuse] sudo, and useradd

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2007-12-28 at 09:40 +0200, Dirk Moolman wrote:


On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:53:11 +0200
Dirk Moolman DirkM wrote:


I am trying to setup sudo rights on a specific user (username: test), to
use the command: useradd



Please, trim the quoted part of your emails.



sudo useradd -c JUST A TEST USER -d /home/test -s /usr/bin/ksh test2

it only works if I enter the root passw0rd, instead of the test user's
passw0rd.   Why would this be ?   The documentation says that it will
ask for a password, but for the passw0rd of the user that is running the
sudo command.


Did you read the file? Look here:

# In the default (unconfigured) configuration, sudo asks for the root password.
# This allows use of an ordinary user account for administration of a freshly
# installed system. When configuring sudo, delete the two
# following lines:
Defaults targetpw# ask for the password of the target user i.e. root
ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL # WARNING! Only use this together with 'Defaults targetpw'!

Do remove or comment out those two lines, as you were told :-p

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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2008-01-12 Thread peter

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PerfectReign wrote:

| If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
| fingers to the keyboard.

I'm tired of some arguments.
If you like beagle install it. If you don't leave it. This is a free world.

But beagle is a default install in opensuse and linking to libbeagle a
must. So your argument doesn't count.

IMO if beagle wouldn't be a default selection then there would be no
problem at all. For my part I don't have it, I don't use it and even
libbeagle is hacked out of my system. But one or two unexperienced users
might have a problem with beagle after all.

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Re: [opensuse] odd /usr/bin thing

2008-01-12 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:40:02 +
Dave Howorth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jerry Feldman wrote:
  In Tru64 Unix, the clustering system invented a context-dependent
  symbolic link. This was added in Tru64 5.0. Since Tru64  Unix is
  proprietary, the installer can force the /usr tree into the root file
  system. I do know in Tru64 Unix 4.x you could place /usr in a separate
  file system. 
 
 As I posted earlier:
 
  Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1B (Rev. 2650); Tue Sep  2 17:51:37 BST 2003
 
  % ls -ld /bin
  lrwxr-xr-x   1 root system   7 Aug 22  2003 /bin@ - usr/bin/
 
  % ls -l /bin/sh
  -rwxr-xr-x   2 bin  bin 149840 Apr 15  2003 /bin/sh*
 
  % df -h
  Filesystem SizeUsed   Available Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/disk/dsk0a240M208M   7666K97%/
  /dev/disk/dsk0g   1923M   1335M395M78%/usr
 
 I guess the installer didn't force it to be in the same filesystem on
 our box. Or our sysadmin hacked it later for some reason :)

That looks like a CDSL. 



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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence (was: Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2008-01-12 Thread Stevens
On Saturday 12 January 2008 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?

Why? Sometimes that is the best method to get someone's attention and 
cooperation. It worked for Al Capone in Chicago. It might even work on 
programmers. From what I have seen of some code, it is worth a try.

 I understand the stresses placed on someone paid to wage war, kill and
 torture people in Iraq and other places, but not every participant
 glorifies the violence and that level of hate does not need to infect
 open source software mailinglists.


Where did that crap come from? Is Aaron a merc? I bet that if he was,
he wouldn't be on this list 'cause he would be making so much money
he could be having real fun instead of being reduced to playing with 
computers.

I would expect cultural differences on a world-wide forum such as this
one. I would also think that the other members would be able to grasp
those differences, respect them for what they are and ignore any that
offend. But maybe I expect too much.

Fred
 
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[opensuse] Help - My system in only starting on blck screen

2008-01-12 Thread bandoneon 08
My system is starting only on the black screen.
It is asking me the login an password, and it stays that way.

How can I come back to the GUI?

THe last thing I did yestarday was reconfiguring the smpppd on the
yast System. System services (run level)


Thanks

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[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Billie Walsh wrote:

At the risk of pissing off my fellow countrymen.

Politics in this country has become a joke. It's no longer about the
issues of what's right or wrong. It IS about how much money a candidate
can raise/spend. The offices of power are bought and sold to the highest
bidder. Office holders are bribed every day by the power brokers. It has
gotten so bad that less that half the people in this country even try to
vote.


There's nothing new about that.
Historically, only a small percentage of the population
voted  -- a primary reason being that until the federal
government got into the business of wealth transfer,
the average person didn't have much personal interest
in who was in charge of the federal government because
the federal government wasn't trying to play mommy
and daddy and rich uncle and demented step-sister
all at the same time.

 there hasn't been a choice of the the best candidate in some

time. It's now more of a case of who's going to do the least damage. [
Kind of scary to think Dubya is the one that's doing the least damage. ]


If the Congress didn't spend so much time trying to
buy the favor of some voters by stealing from others,
and if the Presidents weren't constantly egging them
on to continue, most people STILL wouldn't care who
was elected, let alone ran for president.





It's not the Muslim that's going to take over our country so no need to
worry about what size towel to wrap around your head. It's the religious
far right.


Ask your friends over in London and Paris about
that... neighborhoods where if you're not the
right RELIGION will get you killed (regardless
of what race you are).  In the UK, they're
called no-go zones

  We will all have to wear black suits with long coats. Our

women will no longer be allowed to wear makeup and wear pants. Dresses
only for them. We will have to cover our heads, black hats with flat
brims for the men and bonnets for the ladies. And we ALL will have to


Sounds just like every place I've been to in the Mid-East.


carry around our Bible's. Non Christians will no longer be allowed to
live here. No other religion other than the state approved religion will
be allowed.


Uyeah...right.



Actually, I think I would prefer the Muslim's to what's happening now.



I'll choose Quakers and Amish over the Muslims any day...




I never miss a chance to vote my conscience. I'm a registered voter and
I do it every chance I get. I'm a Viet Nam era veteran. I ENLISTED to
serve my country, I wasn't drafted.


Same hereexcept I did two stints in the desert war
(1991 and 2006-7)



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Re: [opensuse] how to change the default email quota

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos
when i am adding one user i can edit the email  data, using the yast email 
pluging.

well, into thispluging appears always 10 mb as the default mail quota.
this i want to change tho 20mb.
thanks
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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 10:41 +0100, Carlos wrote:


hello
i have one SLES 10 with cyrus and posfix
the defaul email quota is 10Mb.
how can i chage to 20Mb using yast?
thanks


The normal way would be to edit /etc/postfix/main.cf, but if you want to 
use yast, add the variable here:


/etc/sysconfig/postfix:

POSTFIX_ADD_MAILBOX_SIZE_LIMIT=5120
POSTFIX_ADD_MESSAGE_SIZE_LIMIT=3000


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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence

2008-01-12 Thread M9.
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Stevens schreef:
 On Saturday 12 January 2008 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?
 
 Why? Sometimes that is the best method to get someone's attention and 
 cooperation. It worked for Al Capone in Chicago. It might even work on 
 programmers. From what I have seen of some code, it is worth a try.

That is what i sometimes think also...

 
 I understand the stresses placed on someone paid to wage war, kill and
 torture people in Iraq and other places, but not every participant
 glorifies the violence and that level of hate does not need to infect
 open source software mailinglists.

 
 Where did that crap come from? Is Aaron a merc? I bet that if he was,
 he wouldn't be on this list 'cause he would be making so much money
 he could be having real fun instead of being reduced to playing with 
 computers.

Some of us also get drafted?

 
 I would expect cultural differences on a world-wide forum such as this
 one. I would also think that the other members would be able to grasp
 those differences, respect them for what they are and ignore any that
 offend. But maybe I expect too much.
 
 Fred

Not if it was up to me, this sounds completely sane and reasonable to me

  
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re: [opensuse] VirtualBox XP-pro serial madness

2008-01-12 Thread Tom Patton

On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote:
 Tom:
 
 Read your post about VB, XP and serial port stuff.
 
 Do I understand you correctly that you have VB running
 on a Linux host with XP guest AND it recognizes a usb device?
 
 If so, please give me some details on how to do that. I am
 running opensuse 10.2, kernet 2.6.18.
 
 Thanks,
 Fred
 
Fred, good morning,


I'll have to think back thru all the attempts to figure out a
step-by-step, it was a rather hacked way I went about it, since I had
forgotten several admin things that always irked me with windoz!

I imagine that your problem may be that the open-source release of VB
does not include usb support _at all_.  You need to get
http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.4/VirtualBox-1.5.4_27034_openSUSE102-1.i586.rpm

the binary install for 10.2.  I'm using 10.3 32-bit version, but others
in their forum are using 10.2, so good luck.

Remove the Oss version (but don't delete the XP guest files).  Install
VB closed-source, attach the original virtual files, insert the usb
device, and launch VB.  Do NOT launch the guest yet...

If you get there, you will see a USB item in the VB details tab.  (I
think you _have_ to insert the usb device B4 launching VB.)  In the USB
dialog, there is a filter section.  The small icons at the right
indicate known usb devices, add the one you wish to use (in my case it
is the Belkin converter dongle).  I would add JUST the device of
interest, not all of them.

Next, start the XP guest, and do all the crap XP needs to use the
device.  I DL'd the belkin driver, burned it to a cd, and ran the Belkin
installer.  

XP installed the device as com4, and I can copy the GPS sentences out of
my Garmin (with [ugh] Hyperterm).  I have not verified if it will work
with my radio application, but it looks very promising now.

Hope that helps,

Tom in NM




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[opensuse] Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Chuck
I have a 300g drive with a vfat filesystem (created with mkfs.vfat)
that I write files (well I want to write files to) to from both
opensuse 10.3 and windows vista. (dual boot config, this filesystem is
never mounted to both at once)

However, when booted into opensuse only root can write to the
filesystem and chmod has no effect. (For example chmod 777
/mnt/data01/Documents (the mount point) appears to run successfully
because $? = 0, however the permissions are not changed)

I did not see anywhere in vista where I could set permissions on the
directory as you could in XP.

The output of mount -v shows only one option - rw.

#mount -v | grep hda1
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/data01 type vfat (rw)

Anyone have any suggestions??
Thanks,
CC
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Re: [opensuse] Backup Process

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Carlos E. R. wrote:

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The Monday 2007-12-31 at 13:24 -, Dave Howorth wrote:


On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 03:26 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
But I believe plain dar is. I found it to slow, though. I wish rsync 
could

do a little compresion...


???

$man rsync
...
The rsync remote-update protocol allows rsync to transfer just the
differences between two sets of files across the network connection
...
-z, --compress  compress file data during the transfer
...


I know that, but that's not what I want. I want compressed storage.



Compressed storage is great and all, right up until your
media has one more erroneous bits in a block than the
error-detecting-and-correcting code can correct.

In uncompressed data, it's an headache.
In compressed data, it's practically unrecoverable



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[opensuse] Re: Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Chuck wrote:
 I have a 300g drive with a vfat filesystem (created with mkfs.vfat)
 that I write files (well I want to write files to) to from both
 opensuse 10.3 and windows vista. (dual boot config, this filesystem is
 never mounted to both at once)
 
 However, when booted into opensuse only root can write to the
 filesystem and chmod has no effect. (For example chmod 777
 /mnt/data01/Documents (the mount point) appears to run successfully
 because $? = 0, however the permissions are not changed)
 
 I did not see anywhere in vista where I could set permissions on the
 directory as you could in XP.
 

Vista (and XP is the same!!) cannot grant file access permissions to
your drive because FAT does not support it.

In order to get this for NT4/w2k/XP/Vista/2k03, you will need to use
ntfs instead.

kind regards
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Chuck
I was initially trying to use ntfs and even root was unable to write to it. =(

-Chuck


On 1/12/08, Eberhard Roloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chuck wrote:
  I have a 300g drive with a vfat filesystem (created with mkfs.vfat)
  that I write files (well I want to write files to) to from both
  opensuse 10.3 and windows vista. (dual boot config, this filesystem is
  never mounted to both at once)
 
  However, when booted into opensuse only root can write to the
  filesystem and chmod has no effect. (For example chmod 777
  /mnt/data01/Documents (the mount point) appears to run successfully
  because $? = 0, however the permissions are not changed)
 
  I did not see anywhere in vista where I could set permissions on the
  directory as you could in XP.
 

 Vista (and XP is the same!!) cannot grant file access permissions to
 your drive because FAT does not support it.

 In order to get this for NT4/w2k/XP/Vista/2k03, you will need to use
 ntfs instead.

 kind regards
 Eberhard

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[opensuse] Help - How I restore the graphic environment

2008-01-12 Thread bandoneon 08
My system is only starting in the console mode.

What and where should be the settings to start it normally.

THanks

Sergio
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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence

2008-01-12 Thread Dog Walker
On Jan 12, 2008 8:38 AM, M9. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Stevens schreef:
  On Saturday 12 January 2008 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:
  I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
  but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
  violence and torture ?

[...]

I think Kulkis, Druid, et al. are ++diaperfull cyberbrats who are
banging their keyboards against their highchairs for attention. Having
the list killfile them would be welcome.
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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?

2008-01-12 Thread K.R. Foley

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Billie Walsh wrote:

At the risk of pissing off my fellow countrymen.

Politics in this country has become a joke. It's no longer about the
issues of what's right or wrong. It IS about how much money a candidate
can raise/spend. The offices of power are bought and sold to the highest
bidder. Office holders are bribed every day by the power brokers. It has
gotten so bad that less that half the people in this country even try to
vote.


There's nothing new about that.
Historically, only a small percentage of the population
voted  -- a primary reason being that until the federal
government got into the business of wealth transfer,
the average person didn't have much personal interest
in who was in charge of the federal government because
the federal government wasn't trying to play mommy
and daddy and rich uncle and demented step-sister
all at the same time.

  there hasn't been a choice of the the best candidate in some

time. It's now more of a case of who's going to do the least damage. [
Kind of scary to think Dubya is the one that's doing the least damage. ]


If the Congress didn't spend so much time trying to
buy the favor of some voters by stealing from others,
and if the Presidents weren't constantly egging them
on to continue, most people STILL wouldn't care who
was elected, let alone ran for president.





It's not the Muslim that's going to take over our country so no need to
worry about what size towel to wrap around your head. It's the religious
far right.


Ask your friends over in London and Paris about
that... neighborhoods where if you're not the
right RELIGION will get you killed (regardless
of what race you are).  In the UK, they're
called no-go zones

   We will all have to wear black suits with long coats. Our

women will no longer be allowed to wear makeup and wear pants. Dresses
only for them. We will have to cover our heads, black hats with flat
brims for the men and bonnets for the ladies. And we ALL will have to


Sounds just like every place I've been to in the Mid-East.


carry around our Bible's. Non Christians will no longer be allowed to
live here. No other religion other than the state approved religion will
be allowed.


Uyeah...right.



Actually, I think I would prefer the Muslim's to what's happening now.



I'll choose Quakers and Amish over the Muslims any day...




I never miss a chance to vote my conscience. I'm a registered voter and
I do it every chance I get. I'm a Viet Nam era veteran. I ENLISTED to
serve my country, I wasn't drafted.


Same hereexcept I did two stints in the desert war
(1991 and 2006-7)





What the hell does any of this have to do with opensuse. Not to take 
anything away from someone serving their country or whatever, but this 
has no place on a technical list. PLEASE take this elsewhere!


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[opensuse] KDE4 Live CD from openSUSE

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos F. Lange
http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/

Since KDE4.0 is not yet production ready, a LiveCD is ideal to test 
the new cool interface and features. I'm downloading it right now. 
(you have to click on the link to get to the mirrors page)

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox XP-pro serial madness

2008-01-12 Thread Dave Plater
Tom Patton wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote:
   
 Tom:

 Read your post about VB, XP and serial port stuff.

 Do I understand you correctly that you have VB running
 on a Linux host with XP guest AND it recognizes a usb device?

 If so, please give me some details on how to do that. I am
 running opensuse 10.2, kernet 2.6.18.

 Thanks,
 Fred

 
 Fred, good morning,


 I'll have to think back thru all the attempts to figure out a
 step-by-step, it was a rather hacked way I went about it, since I had
 forgotten several admin things that always irked me with windoz!

 I imagine that your problem may be that the open-source release of VB
 does not include usb support _at all_.  You need to get
 http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.5.4/VirtualBox-1.5.4_27034_openSUSE102-1.i586.rpm

 the binary install for 10.2.  I'm using 10.3 32-bit version, but others
 in their forum are using 10.2, so good luck.

 Remove the Oss version (but don't delete the XP guest files).  Install
 VB closed-source, attach the original virtual files, insert the usb
 device, and launch VB.  Do NOT launch the guest yet...

 If you get there, you will see a USB item in the VB details tab.  (I
 think you _have_ to insert the usb device B4 launching VB.)  In the USB
 dialog, there is a filter section.  The small icons at the right
 indicate known usb devices, add the one you wish to use (in my case it
 is the Belkin converter dongle).  I would add JUST the device of
 interest, not all of them.

 Next, start the XP guest, and do all the crap XP needs to use the
 device.  I DL'd the belkin driver, burned it to a cd, and ran the Belkin
 installer.  

 XP installed the device as com4, and I can copy the GPS sentences out of
 my Garmin (with [ugh] Hyperterm).  I have not verified if it will work
 with my radio application, but it looks very promising now.

 Hope that helps,

 Tom in NM

   
I've found its better to leave the filters out of the initial setup and
after starting xp, plug in usb device and then use the devices menu on
the vbox window to enable the device. Another tip is to completely
uninstall the suse virtual box, including the kernel module, as yast
won't make you do so, before installing
VirtualBox-1.5.4_27034_openSUSE102-1.i586.rpm . It contains everything
it needs. It has a comprehensive help system too.
Dave
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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

2008-01-12 Thread Daniel Feiglin



Kai Ponte wrote:

On Fri, January 11, 2008 7:25 pm, John Andersen wrote:
  

On Jan 11, 2008 7:19 PM, PerfectReign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On my laptop, I'm running Wintendo Vista and VMWare with openSUSE
10.3
as the guest. I'm wondering - and I've googled this - how do I mount
the host filesystem so I can do stuff. I want to burn a DVD with
openSUSE, since there are no good tools in Windows to do this which
match K3B.

Ideas?
  

cifsmount



Thanks.

That'd be great if I were (a) using the command line and (b) mounting
a cifs volume (which I do already with smb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What about inside VMWare?

  

I'd like to ask the same question, but in the opposite direction.

I have a Win XP client on a Linux host (actually several - one 
production, one backup and one to experiment).


I would like to mount the vmdk file(s) on one of these (not running 
clients) in much the same way that I can mount a vfat or ntfs partition.


For a running client it's easy - just make the Win drives/directories 
sharable and SAMBA does the job.


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[opensuse] laptop headphones

2008-01-12 Thread Marc Chamberlin
Hi -  Well it seems that, on my fancy dancy HP Pavilion laptop, some 
braindead engineer decided it was a good idea to replace/upgrade the 
good old fashioned style (tried and true) of audio headphone jacks with 
something that requires software to use it.  What ever happened to the 
KISS principal, in particular that headphone jacks used to ALWAYS simply 
disconnect internal speakers and mechanically reroute sound to the 
headphones when you plugged one into its jack? As you (poor reader) can 
probably surmise I just discovered this wonderful feature about my 
laptop because when I plug in my headphones under Windows they work, but 
under SuSE 10.2 it does not.


So guess I got to hold my nose, because this new headphone jack design 
STINKS, IMHO and ask this group for help to gain the advance wisdom 
and knowledge about how to use headphones from some kind guru... This 
SHOULD have been a duck soup simple task and apparently has now become 
yet another fine example of how computers are being redesigned to 
frustrate us poor users---


How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to 
music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers 
because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)?  I have look 
at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled 
around with em, all to no avail


 Lost in the headphones wilderness...  Marc...


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Re: [opensuse] Installing wink to capture streaming video

2008-01-12 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:12:10 +0100, peter wrote:


However this part getting pretty off topic. If you still have the urge
to continue then please feel free to use a pm.

Given that you won't admit you stated false claims this ends the
discussion with a PLONK.

Philipp
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Re: [opensuse] Help - How I restore the graphic environment

2008-01-12 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 12 January 2008 11:00:52 am bandoneon 08 wrote:
 My system is only starting in the console mode.

 What and where should be the settings to start it normally.

 THanks

 Sergio

Try first to login as normal user (not root). 
Than run command:
  startx
if that brings GUI than you have to go to YaST and set default runlevel to 5, 
as it was before you edited runlevels.

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Re: [opensuse] how to change the default email quota

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 17:34 +0100, Carlos wrote:

when i am adding one user i can edit the email  data, using the yast email 
pluging.

well, into thispluging appears always 10 mb as the default mail quota.
this i want to change tho 20mb.


Ah, no idea, that's a SLES thing.

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Re: [opensuse] Banning verbal violence

2008-01-12 Thread M9.
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 On Saturday 12 January 2008 00:11, Philippe Landau wrote:
 I made a filter marking messages by Aaron Kulkis as read some time ago,
 but can he please be placed under moderation for making appeals to
 violence and torture ?

 [...]

 I think Kulkis, Druid, et al. are ++diaperfull cyberbrats who are
 banging their keyboards against their highchairs for attention. Having
 the list killfile them would be welcome.

Are you both realy as pityfull as you seem?
Or are you just sick-joking?


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Re: [opensuse] Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 10:52 -0600, Chuck wrote:


I have a 300g drive with a vfat filesystem (created with mkfs.vfat)
that I write files (well I want to write files to) to from both
opensuse 10.3 and windows vista. (dual boot config, this filesystem is
never mounted to both at once)

However, when booted into opensuse only root can write to the
filesystem and chmod has no effect. (For example chmod 777
/mnt/data01/Documents (the mount point) appears to run successfully
because $? = 0, however the permissions are not changed)


Yes, that's intentional.

The only method to change the permissions is to change them at mount time, 
or editing the fstab file. By default files belong to the user that 
mounted it.


For instance:

/dev/hda1  /windows/C  vfat  
noauto,users,gid=users,fmask=0117,dmask=0007,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437  
0 0


You can find more options in the mount manual.


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Re: [opensuse] Re: Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 10:59 -0600, Chuck wrote:


I was initially trying to use ntfs and even root was unable to write to it. =(


There is a page in the wiki explaining why and how to solve that.

You can also use ext3 in windows...

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Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-offtopic] Right persons in power?

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 10:39 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:



Billie Walsh wrote:

 At the risk of pissing off my fellow countrymen.

 Politics in this country has become a joke. It's no longer about the
 issues of what's right or wrong. It IS about how much money a candidate
 can raise/spend. The offices of power are bought and sold to the highest
 bidder. Office holders are bribed every day by the power brokers. It has
 gotten so bad that less that half the people in this country even try to
 vote.


There's nothing new about that.
Historically, only a small percentage of the population
voted  -- a primary reason being that until the federal



Please, Aaron, don't crosspost discussions from the opensuse-offtopic back 
into opensuse list.


You should know how! Grow up!

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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox XP-pro serial madness

2008-01-12 Thread Tom Patton

On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 19:14 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
 Tom Patton wrote:
  On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote:

 

 I've found its better to leave the filters out of the initial setup and
 after starting xp, plug in usb device and then use the devices menu on
 the vbox window to enable the device. Another tip is to completely
 uninstall the suse virtual box, including the kernel module, as yast
 won't make you do so, before installing
 VirtualBox-1.5.4_27034_openSUSE102-1.i586.rpm . It contains everything
 it needs. It has a comprehensive help system too.
 Dave

Thanks, Dave, I should have expounded on removing the OSS version and
driver first.  I rmmod'd the driver, then rpm -e'd the virtualbox OSS
rpm before I installed the 1.5.4 version.  Thanks for reminding me.

Now that I have it working, I will try your method, and see if
hot-plug will work.  It should, unless they have a bug in VB.  

I do think it is a bug for VB to not allow the serial access to ttyUSB0,
but that is a subject for their forum, I guess.

Tom in NM


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Re: [opensuse] Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Chuck
Then something is bugged:

mkfs.ntfs -f -v /dev/hda1
mount -t ntfs -o rw,gid=users,fmask=,dmask=

su - ccarson

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt  id
uid=1000(ccarson) gid=100(users) groups=16(dialout),33(video),100(users)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt cd /mnt/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt ls -la
total 12
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 2008-01-11 14:19 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root  4096 2008-01-12 06:35 ..
drwxrwxrwx  1 root users 4096 2008-01-12 12:45 data01

cd data01
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/data01 mkdir test
mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/data01 touch test
touch: cannot touch `test': Permission denied

ccarson belongs to users and is trying to create a file/directory
underneath a directory with wide open perms. (0777)

Even root is now unable to create files under /mnt/data01, however
changing the permissions of /mnt/data01 at least now has the cosmetic
affect of getting changed:
ie:
hummer:/mnt/data01 # chmod 0700 /mnt/data01/  echo $?
0
hummer:/mnt/data01 # ls -ld /mnt/data01/
drwx-- 1 root users 4096 Jan 12 12:45 /mnt/data01/

In the log I can see where it is using ntfs v3.1 which is what is
needed for Vista compatability (per the documentation anyway)

Anyone else get this to work...

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  I have a 300g drive with a vfat filesystem (created with mkfs.vfat)
  that I write files (well I want to write files to) to from both
  opensuse 10.3 and windows vista. (dual boot config, this filesystem is
  never mounted to both at once)
 
  However, when booted into opensuse only root can write to the
  filesystem and chmod has no effect. (For example chmod 777
  /mnt/data01/Documents (the mount point) appears to run successfully
  because $? = 0, however the permissions are not changed)

 Yes, that's intentional.

 The only method to change the permissions is to change them at mount time,
 or editing the fstab file. By default files belong to the user that
 mounted it.

 For instance:

 /dev/hda1  /windows/C  vfat  
 noauto,users,gid=users,fmask=0117,dmask=0007,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=437 
  0 0


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Re: [opensuse] Help - How I restore the graphic environment - Solved

2008-01-12 Thread Sergio S.

SOLVED THANKS !!
 Try first to login as normal user (not root). 
 Than run command:
   startx
 if that brings GUI than you have to go to YaST and set default runlevel to 5, 
 as it was before you edited runlevels.
 
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Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2008-01-12 Thread PerfectReign
On Sat, January 12, 2008 7:33 am, peter wrote:
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 | If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
 | fingers to the keyboard.

 I'm tired of some arguments.
 If you like beagle install it. If you don't leave it. This is a free
 world.

 But beagle is a default install in opensuse and linking to libbeagle a
 must. So your argument doesn't count.

No - I simply clicked on ban in the installer (last two installs)
and it griped a bit but let me pass.

My mother - by the way - runs beagle and kerry just fine she never
notices any issues. However, I refuse to have it.

Bitching about it is just childish unless one bitches and then takes
it upon oneself to either (a) remove it or (b) re-write it.

thankyouverymuchnowbyebye...


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Re: [opensuse] Problem writing to drive shared by Vista and Suse 10.3

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 12:57 -0600, Chuck wrote:


Then something is bugged:

mkfs.ntfs -f -v /dev/hda1
mount -t ntfs -o rw,gid=users,fmask=,dmask=


Hold on, my instructions were for vfat, not ntfs: I don't use ntfs.

Are you sure you will be able to write with that mask?

How does mount | grep /dev/hda1 report the mount?

I would also format that disk using windows.



Even root is now unable to create files under /mnt/data01, however


I think either the partition was not clossed properly, or the mask is 
wrong.


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Re: [opensuse] asus Eee mini laptop

2008-01-12 Thread lerninlinux

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 Hey guys Anybody try to get opensuse running on one of these yet?
 I want to try getting SLED on one. Any thoughts?
 JT
 

There are supposed to be some issues with things like the wireless by default 
with what I have read.  I am wondering a little about something like this, or 
the Zonuba, or (my preference), the Everex NC1610 (Via C7, with a larger 
screen). The main uses I really have are wardriving, network troubleshooting 
(securing), and transportation of data, that I may need to change formats of 
(for other os's).  For just transporting data, I will stick with USB, or cd/dvd.

Any thoughts/experiences on these other systems as well?
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Re: [opensuse] 10.3 and powermanagement

2008-01-12 Thread John E. Perry
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 John E. Perry wrote:
 Thanks, Frank.  This seems to have solved my problem.

 ...well, one thing has nagged me since I put 10.1 on this thing last
 year, but it's never been enough of an issue to prod me into asking
 about it.  The battery indication is completely nonsensical.  ...

 Actually, it just occurred to me to ask on hp's support forum.  I'd
 still like to hear from you, though.

 
 What did HP say?
 
 

Sorry, I've been on a trip for the last two months, and my ISP doesn't
allow me access to smtp from outside the Cox network.  Webmail sucks too
bad for me to deal with it unless I absolutely have to.

HP told me to wipe my suse partition and restore the thing to the
original XP configuration, then they'd think about helping me.

While I was gone, other problems cropped up, so now I guess I have to do
it so I can find out whether I need to send the thing back for repair.
At least they're talking about extending the warranty period for my
series of machines.

I never heard any more from Frank.

John Perry

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[opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Johannes Nohl
Saying LTS I mean Long Term Support as ubuntu people do.

I know there's SEL but I'm asking for the open Suse. I'm configuring a
new webserver right now. And I'm seriosly thinking about waiting for
the next ubuntu LTS. I always ran the machines longer than two years.
Often the contract duration for the dedicated hardware is two years
yet. And although upgrading worked so far for me there were always
small changes which you couldn't see in advance, like postfix
complaining about file permissions.

I really enjoy OpenSuse but a life cycle of two years is - except for
desktops - to short. Not every release has to be supported long term
but what about every third? Couldn't the life cycle be 4.5 years?

Am I the only one thinking like this?

Johannes
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Re: [opensuse] asus Eee mini laptop

2008-01-12 Thread John Layt
On Saturday 12 January 2008, James Tremblay wrote:
 Hey guys Anybody try to get opensuse running on one of these yet?
 I want to try getting SLED on one. Any thoughts?
 JT


No, not yet, I haven't heard of any efforts over at eeeuser.com, nor
do I have the time to play to make it happen.  I'm having to use
eeeXububtu until such time as I hear of someone who's sorted it.  The
main areas needing patching are the wireless and acpi modules, and
various power and disk manage tweaks to minimise power use and SSD
writes.

Cheers!

John.

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Re: [opensuse] Help - My system in only starting on blck screen

2008-01-12 Thread James Knott
bandoneon 08 wrote:
 My system is starting only on the black screen.
 It is asking me the login an password, and it stays that way.

 How can I come back to the GUI?

 THe last thing I did yestarday was reconfiguring the smpppd on the
 yast System. System services (run level)

   

Type startx to start the desktop or edit /etc/inittab to change
id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault:
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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

2008-01-12 Thread Anders Johansson
On Friday 11 January 2008 21:36:49 Hans Witvliet wrote:
 But much to my surprise, allmost each pdf opened within firefox result
 in two external name lookups: one for an internal adobe-site and another
 for a site related to the content or author of the related pdf.

 I took the precaution to disable recursion, but the verya latest reader
 from acrobat is still spying on you!!!

That does not follow. A DNS lookup isn't directly visible to the owner of the 
URL. It also doesn't contain any data from your system

Did you verify with wireshark what happened other than the dns lookups?

Anders

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Re: [opensuse] Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Joe Sloan wrote:

James Knott wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

primm wrote:

What NFS allows is the user id number, not name.  This means is if user
A is 1000 on one system.  Another user 1000 on another system will have
access to A's files.  The key is make sure user ID's are consistent
across all systems.  Someone with root access could of course create a
new user with whatever ID they want or use an existing ID.


I setup the nfs server with yast. I setup the nfs clients with Yast.
Yast tells me nothing about id. It doen't say, 'are you sure you want
to continue becaus this is s big security risk'.

I come back to my original worry: I'm the only one with root access
on any box on my network. Yast set it up for me. What are my
problems? I'm sorry to have to ask for confirmation.

Just make sure that each user on your network has a UNIQUE
user ID number ... if Joe has user ID 1002 on one machine,
and Jane has user ID 1002 on another machine, then you will
have problems.

You want Joe to have the same user ID (say 1002) on every
machine, and Jane to have her own user ID (say 1003) on
every machine.

The easiest way to do this is with NIS.

With the Windows Domain Login, one option is to create a home
directory.  Is this possible with NIS?  If not what does one use for a
home directory, when logged onto a computer without a home directory for
that user?


Sure, use the make_home_dir utility - works like a charm.

http://www.trustsec.de/soft/oss/make_home_dir-1.0.tar.gz

Of course, the old school linux method is to combine nis with nfs and
automounter, so you get the same home directory everywhere. But for
limited environments, make_home_dir will fit the bill.


And then the NIS map of the automount files can be used
to allow ANY workstation to automount the home directory
located on the user's usual workstation.


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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Alexey Eremenko
I also think that having openSUSE LTS will be very good for a
community to have, but the point is - I'm not sure if there is enough
volunteers to make it possible. Do not expect any help from Novell,
because having openSUSE LTS may hurt SLE(S/D) business.

Most chances, are, that Novell will disallow to use SUSE brand for
such community project.

Alternatively, SLE may stay for corporations, while openSUSE LTS will
have the same role within the openSUSE community as CentOS serves in
RedHat community. That is: Community OS, with long-support cycle for
personal use/small companies, while RHEL is for large enterprises.
Similar market segmentation might work for openSUSE as well. But
CentOS is tied very closely with RHEL, not with Fedora, so patches are
made by RedHat, not by CentOS developers. CentOS is, in fact, a
bug-for-bug copy of  RHEL.Will openSUSE LTS be tied closely to SLE or
to openSUSE ?

A major problem with the so-called Enterprise Linuxes, is that they
have *very* few packages, so it is a big pain to use for power users,
who use a lot of _different_ packages.
Perhaps, going back to RedHat Linux days  may solve this problem,
where 1 OS is for both Enterprise+Community. (It was in year 2003,
before RedHat Linux devision into RedHat Enterprise Linux and Fedora).
Such releases should have LTS badge on them, rather than a full
devision.

Actually, Ubuntu got it right, because their LTS releases can be
considered to have Enterprise support, if need arises, plus Ubuntu
LTS do not suffer from having few packages as RHEL/SLE do.

In Any case, I would support such community action - making openSUSE
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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2008/1/12, Johannes Nohl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Saying LTS I mean Long Term Support as ubuntu people do.

 I know there's SEL but I'm asking for the open Suse. I'm configuring a
 new webserver right now. And I'm seriosly thinking about waiting for
 the next ubuntu LTS. I always ran the machines longer than two years.
 Often the contract duration for the dedicated hardware is two years
 yet. And although upgrading worked so far for me there were always
 small changes which you couldn't see in advance, like postfix
 complaining about file permissions.

 I really enjoy OpenSuse but a life cycle of two years is - except for
 desktops - to short. Not every release has to be supported long term
 but what about every third? Couldn't the life cycle be 4.5 years?

 Am I the only one thinking like this?

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That's the reason to exist for SLES, sorry

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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-11 at 19:54 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:


cifsmount


Thanks.

That'd be great if I were (a) using the command line and (b) mounting
a cifs volume (which I do already with smb:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What about inside VMWare?


Well, you export in the host whatever directory you want to access inside 
the client, using samba, ftp, http (apache)... whatever you like, using 
different daemon.



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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

2008-01-12 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Friday 11 January 2008 19:19, PerfectReign wrote:
 On my laptop, I'm running Wintendo Vista and VMWare with openSUSE
 10.3 as the guest. I'm wondering - and I've googled this - how do I
 mount the host filesystem so I can do stuff. I want to burn a DVD
 with openSUSE, since there are no good tools in Windows to do this
 which match K3B.

 Ideas?

If you're running one of the $pay$ versions of VNware, you can do this 
easily and directly using the shared folders feature. You configure 
this in the Options tab of the Virtual Machine Settings dialog. (This 
is based on VMware 5.5; I'm sure the essence is the same on 6.0 even if 
some of the UI details have changed.) You can map any number of 
directories in the host file system to what appear to be remote shares 
or drives in the Windows guest.

I only know for a fact that you can do this when Windows is the guest 
OS, which is by far the preferable approach since that way Windows' 
poor use of hardware resources doesn't degrade the performance of a 
Linux guest.

And the whole shared folders thing is not included in the 
VMware Server (the $free$ version).


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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 22:17 +0100, Johannes Nohl wrote:


I really enjoy OpenSuse but a life cycle of two years is - except for
desktops - to short. Not every release has to be supported long term
but what about every third? Couldn't the life cycle be 4.5 years?


Maintaining (backporting) apps for such a long time is costly, and that is 
why SLES is expensive, and not so feature rich.


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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 19:53 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:


I would like to mount the vmdk file(s) on one of these (not running clients) 
in much the same way that I can mount a vfat or ntfs partition.


Me too!

I think there is an utility to do that, inside the vmware things, but I 
haven't seen the instructions for it, so I never tried.


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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. a écrit :

Maintaining (backporting) apps for such a long time is costly, and that 
is why SLES is expensive, and not so feature rich.


there could be a medium point. I would be ready to pay a small fee 
($10/year?) for security patches for kernel, apache, postfix and some 
very limited server apps.


Could even pay until $60 for one time (buy time) such support

for other apps, there is no need of long time support

jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Adobe Acrobat Spying on Users (was: like acobat reader

2008-01-12 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 22:33 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote:
 On Friday 11 January 2008 21:36:49 Hans Witvliet wrote:
  But much to my surprise, allmost each pdf opened within firefox result
  in two external name lookups: one for an internal adobe-site and another
  for a site related to the content or author of the related pdf.
 
  I took the precaution to disable recursion, but the verya latest reader
  from acrobat is still spying on you!!!
 
 That does not follow. A DNS lookup isn't directly visible to the owner of the 
 URL. It also doesn't contain any data from your system
 
 Did you verify with wireshark what happened other than the dns lookups?
 
 Anders

Not yet, will inverstigate it more next week.

No information got leaked out,
As the dns-lookup failed, the tcp-connection could not be establised.

But it remains strange that for normal http,ftp traffic everything goes
straight to the proxy, but when an pdf is opened with acrobat out-bound
ip connection were tried to initiated.

Perhaps i should also try another pdf-viewer

hw
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Re: [opensuse] strange IP

2008-01-12 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 07:34 -0500, James Knott wrote:
 jdd wrote:
  Hello :-))
 
  Any time networkmanager fail to find a dhcp server (for example if
  there are none available :-)) it gives me the IP 169.254.16.90
 
  shouldn't it continue searching (may be the server is just rebooting)
  and from where do this IP come?? (I have no idea, never used such one
  and nslookup dont give anything)
 
 
 That's a link local address.  The idea is you can connect two
 computers together, without benefit of a DHCP server or manual
 configuration.  The 169.254.x.x range is supposed to be blocked by
 routers, so you should never see one of those addresses on the
 internet.  Windows and Mac systems do it too.
 
supposed to be is indeed the right phrase ;-(
I found out on several machines that with network manager enabled i got
such address, and with traditional method i was able to obtain an
address from my dhcp server. Switching back to networkmanager my suse
machines were no longer able to get an address from the dhcp-server.

So, networkmanager? Thanks, but no thanks! 
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Re: [opensuse] Installation Problems

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

william oakes wrote:




Makes sense.  Dumb question, I have seen IIRC used in several posts, but I 
have no clue as to it's meaning or what it is, could you clarify?




If I Remember Correctly




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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Cristian Rodriguez

Johannes Nohl escribió:

Saying LTS I mean Long Term Support as ubuntu people do.

I know there's SEL but I'm asking for the open Suse. 


extremely unlikely I say.. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Cristian Rodriguez

jdd escribió:

there could be a medium point. I would be ready to pay a small fee 
($10/year?) for security patches for kernel, apache, postfix and some 
very limited server apps.


I assume you are joking right ? so you really think a fee of $10 will be 
enough ? with $10 you dont even pay one man's hour !!

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Re: [opensuse] Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts

2008-01-12 Thread Rajko M.
On Thursday 27 December 2007 04:33:15 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 Joe Sloan wrote:
  James Knott wrote:
...
 And then the NIS map of the automount files can be used
 to allow ANY workstation to automount the home directory
 located on the user's usual workstation.

Aaron, 

what is with your clock? 

Is it adjusting to corespondent time?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts

2008-01-12 Thread James Knott
Rajko M. wrote:
 On Thursday 27 December 2007 04:33:15 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
   
 Joe Sloan wrote:
 
 James Knott wrote:
   
 ...
   
 And then the NIS map of the automount files can be used
 to allow ANY workstation to automount the home directory
 located on the user's usual workstation.
 

 Aaron, 

 what is with your clock? 

 Is it adjusting to corespondent time?

   
Maybe he's back dating his messages.  ;-)


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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 21:34 -0300, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:


jdd escribió:


 there could be a medium point. I would be ready to pay a small fee
 ($10/year?) for security patches for kernel, apache, postfix and some very
 limited server apps.


I assume you are joking right ? so you really think a fee of $10 will be 
enough ? with $10 you dont even pay one man's hour !!


Not if you sell a few thousand items :-p

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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Benji Weber
On 13/01/2008, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I assume you are joking right ? so you really think a fee of $10 will be
  enough ? with $10 you dont even pay one man's hour !!

 Not if you sell a few thousand items :-p

Even at 10,000 units that's barely enough for one developer.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts

2008-01-12 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 12 January 2008 07:05:50 pm James Knott wrote:
 Rajko M. wrote:
  On Thursday 27 December 2007 04:33:15 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
  Joe Sloan wrote:
  James Knott wrote:
 
  ...
 
  And then the NIS map of the automount files can be used
  to allow ANY workstation to automount the home directory
  located on the user's usual workstation.
 
  Aaron,
 
  what is with your clock?
 
  Is it adjusting to corespondent time?

 Maybe he's back dating his messages.  ;-)

Sure ;-) 

It seems that his spool forgets sometimes to send them out. 

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[opensuse] Major problem with update sources! System trashed, unable to update new install

2008-01-12 Thread Mike Johnson
There appears to be a problem with the update source at:

http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3/

and by definition mirrors thereof.

On Friday, I accepted an update offered by the updater as usual.
During the update, several errors were displayed, but the update
continued.

Once the update was finished, I had a crash of evolution when I tried
to send a mail. So I rebooted, and to cut a long story short, found out
that hundreds of core packages had been uninstalled, including rpm
itself. I can provide a URL to download the zipped log from the fateful
update session on request.

After re-installing from scratch (no luck with repair), I find that I can't
install an update source due to the same error that seems to have
triggered the mass-uninstall in the first place. The checksum on
patch-fetchmsttfonts.sh-4347.xml appears to be wrong. YaST won't
install the update source because of this.

Is anyone working on fixing this? My system got hosed and I can't
even re-install to the same level. Thankfully all my personal data
is OK. (Regular backups).

I hope that I am the only one hit by this.

Mike.
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Re: [opensuse] Will there be a LTS version of OpenSuse?

2008-01-12 Thread Cristian Rodríguez

Carlos E. R. escribió:


Not if you sell a few thousand items :-p


nope. it is not enough, This is expensive to do, really.

People needing LTS should just get SLES.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE4 Live CD from openSUSE

2008-01-12 Thread Basil Chupin

Carlos F. Lange wrote:

http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/

Since KDE4.0 is not yet production ready, a LiveCD is ideal to test 
the new cool interface and features. I'm downloading it right now. 
(you have to click on the link to get to the mirrors page)


Appears to be a waste of time downloading this file because it won't 
boot. I think the autoloader is missing.


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[opensuse] nvidia brightness question

2008-01-12 Thread Mike McMullin
  I have (re-)installed the nVIDIA driver for Linux (December 29, 2007)
using the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run package downloaded from their
web site.  I have noticed something that I'd like to either understand
or correct.
  When I view an You-tube video in Linux the video tends to not be as
bright as watching the video under XP=Home on the same hardware setup.
  Is this a driver issue or an X issue, and how can I resolve the
difference if at all possible.

  Mike



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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

2008-01-12 Thread PerfectReign
On Sat, January 12, 2008 2:40 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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 The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 19:53 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:


 I would like to mount the vmdk file(s) on one of these (not running
 clients)
 in much the same way that I can mount a vfat or ntfs partition.

 Me too!

 I think there is an utility to do that, inside the vmware things, but
 I
 haven't seen the instructions for it, so I never tried.

I ended up just doing a smb://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/c$ to map the drive in
konqueror.

The issue was that Windows doesn't seem to come with a good DVD
burning utility and I had a backup I wanted to make.   I used K3B,
which worked flawlessly.  (Of course, I had to copy the files over to
my home folder since K3b wouldn't write from a remote location.)

Thanks for the suggestions!



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[opensuse] Re: complaining vs. constructive criticism

2008-01-12 Thread Linda Walsh

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Linda Walsh wrote:

Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Kevin Dupuy wrote:

On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 10:53 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:

The maintainers for beagle should be taken out and kneecapped,
or beat about the head with a police baton. Every day


I'm starting to get tired of the hating on Beagle's devs.


Excuse me...has anyone really expressed HATRED towards the Beagle dev...


Uh...Aaron, YES! :-)
Yes.   You are saying they should be violently beaten every day.



That would just be motivation to improve!

---
???  Are you deliberately trolling?
If someone is devoting time for free, and you beat them, you think 
they are
going to continue devoting time?  You asked for an example of your expression 
of hatred
toward toward some developers, but when you are given your own words as an 
example, you
just brush off the comment as though it is funny.  It's a bit sad.  Either you 
are
incredibly naive and unaware of how you are coming across to others, or are
baiting people and attempting to make them uncomfortable or upset.  Either way, 
you
should just stop.


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[opensuse] different locations for init-values?

2008-01-12 Thread Linda Walsh

I noticed that some startup scripts get values from /etc/defaults/appname,
though most get it from /etc/sysconfig/appname.

Are ones from '/etc/defaults/' foreign packages that were adapted to suse?

Just curious...:-)
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Re: [opensuse] VirtualBox XP-pro serial madness

2008-01-12 Thread Tom Patton

On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 12:16 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 19:14 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
  Tom Patton wrote:
   On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 09:29 -0600, Stevens wrote:
 
  
 
  I've found its better to leave the filters out of the initial setup and
  after starting xp, plug in usb device and then use the devices menu on
  the vbox window to enable the device. 

 Now that I have it working, I will try your method, and see if
 hot-plug will work.  It should, unless they have a bug in VB.  

Dave, it seems hot-plugging works fine.  I have repeatedly swapped from
the Belkin dongle to an ICOM radio USB programming cable, and each time
they have worked well.  

I simply left both items active in the VB filter menu, and the XP guest
was able to keep track of which one I had in the side port of my
Thinkpad R40 laptop.  XP would give the Belkin com3, and the ICOM cable
com4...(without restarts of the guest...).

I still think VB should pass through the dongle as ttyUSB0, and let SuSE
handle it...but it works this way, so far.

Pretty cool...I guess.

Tom in NM


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Re: [opensuse] Gnome resolution

2008-01-12 Thread Carl Spitzer
no Joy.  even if I reboot it does not take.



On Fri, 2007-12-28 at 10:23 +0800, Charles Li wrote:
 Hi,
 
  Try resapplet, :)
 
 On Dec 28, 2007 4:02 AM, Carl Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am using a smaller backup monitor due to the other being fried.
  I can not change to a lower resolution using the gnome control center
  control center does not seem to have another choice for selection.
  at 1280x1024 its rather hard to read and SaX2 does not work.
  Where can I directly edit this to be 1024x768 until I can pickup a
  larger monitor?
 
  The monitor is Mag Innovision DX500T and working just fine otherwise.
  BTW where can I download one of those inf files for the settings?
 
 
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Re: [opensuse] VMWare - How to View Host

2008-01-12 Thread benefici
On 2008. 01. 12., Saturday 23:40:31 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Saturday 2008-01-12 at 19:53 +0200, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
  I would like to mount the vmdk file(s) on one of these (not running
  clients) in much the same way that I can mount a vfat or ntfs partition.

 Me too!

 I think there is an utility to do that, inside the vmware things, but I
 haven't seen the instructions for it, so I never tried.

 --
 Cheers,
 Carlos E. R.

I found this page, but haven't tried it yet:
http://thomas-häcker.de/?p=4
Tom
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Re: [opensuse] A couple things i see in KDE4

2008-01-12 Thread Stephan Binner
On Saturday 12 January 2008 04:45:54 Chris Arnold wrote:

 The first thing is when i installed an app, i could not find it in the
 kmenu. In kde3-kmenu-applications-new programs, i see new apps listed.
 Does kde4 list new apps?

It's not yet implemented in the Kickoff/KDE4 version.

 Second thing, is it possible to have just kde4 installed (and not kde3)?

I wouldn't put my money on kdm4 yet but in general yes.

 Third thing, the trash, my computer and one other icon were question marks
 and did not launch.

Integration/migration support work has to be yet done.

 Forth thing, i did not see a way to configure the panel.

It's not yet implemented in KDE4.

Bye,
   Steve
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Re: [opensuse] Help - My system in only starting on blck screen

2008-01-12 Thread Aaron Kulkis

bandoneon 08 wrote:

My system is starting only on the black screen.
It is asking me the login an password, and it stays that way.

How can I come back to the GUI?


login to root, and run this command:

# init 5


start up yast, and change the default run level
from 3 to 5 (I forget what menu it's in...yast
is misbehaving for me lately)



THe last thing I did yestarday was reconfiguring the smpppd on the
yast System. System services (run level)


Yes, you want to go to that portion of the yast
menus, and set the default runlevel to 5.

Don't change the system services run levels unless
you know what you're doing...and in you're case,
you don't yet know enough to do that kind of
thing (maybe a year from now, yes, but for
now, leave them alone).




Thanks

Sergio




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Re: [opensuse] Problem getting printing to work in OpenOffice

2008-01-12 Thread Basil Chupin

Johannes Meixner wrote:

Hello,

On Dec 7 16:44 Basil Chupin wrote (shortened):
  

Why is OpenOffice such a bitch about printing?



What do you think why this or that application program
is such a bitch about printing?
  
Because it doesn't print when one attempts to print a document when all 
the settings in the Operating System (in this case OpenSuse 10.2 [and 
now 10.3]) have been correctly setup?




Obviously printing should be an important issue in particular
for an office program but what do you think is the base reason
when the actual implementation is poor?
  


Which is the 'actual implementation [which] is poor'? OpenSuse or 
OpenOffice?



I don't know what the base reason is when printing is poor in
this or that application program - I have my own vague ideas
but I don't know what the actual reasons are.
  


You have more knowledge and experience than I (will ever) have. I may 
have to go back to DOS..





Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
  

Ciao.

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Re: [opensuse] Problem getting printing to work in OpenOffice

2008-01-12 Thread Basil Chupin

Robert Smits wrote:

On December 6, 2007 09:44:04 pm Basil Chupin wrote:

  

Sigh Isn't it beyond belief that a piece of software (Megabytes big!)
provided by one of the biggest companies has to be 'fiddled' before the
damn thing will print a (simple) document produced using this software
(OpenOffice)?


First, I'm sorry you're having difficulties printing.

Second, OpenOffice is not provided by a company, it's provided by volunteers.
  


It is released under the SUN name, and the company supports the volunteers.

And, PLEASE, don't give me the crap about 'volunteering'!

'Volunteer' or an 'employee for $$$', the ethics are still the same: 'If 
it's worth doing then it's worth doing well'.


I've been working with volunteers for over 30 years. If a ding-dong (as 
in my second-last contact with a volunteer organisation) started the 
same argument as your statement above implies, my reply was, 'Nobody 
asked you to volunteer. Either do the job properly or p*** off.'



Second, there may well be any number of problems in your computer, your setup, 
your particular combinations of hardware and setup that don't make make it an 
OpenOffice problem or an Opensuse problem.


Third, you haven't given us much information to enable any one to help you.

I appreciate that you're frustrated at not being able to print, but with so 
many different possible combinations of computer hardware, software, and 
printers, it's virtually certain that someone will come up with scenarios 
which don't work. 
  


It certainly is a possibility that my hardware configuration is 
'upsetting' my ability to print, but I also understand that the whole OS 
(and OO) is being developed with the attempt to make it workable with 
all hardware. For example, the latest version of Damn Small Linx (DSL) 
certainly attempts this.


Speaking of my own experience with the five computers I operate and maintain, 
I've never had any problem printing from OpenOffice in any version for the 
past five years, with Suse from 9.2 to 10.3.
  


I have to say that this is very nice for you - no problems of any kind. 
Wonderful!



Due more to good luck than anything, last night I found a simple
reference, in a message in the Sun's OpenOffice 'help' forum, which
provided me with the information to get OO to print. As you suggest in
your response, for which I am grateful, it ALL has to do with outputting
the document to a pdf file and then printing that.



So at least you can deal with the immediate problem, to get those files 
printed right away.
  


Yes, I was very pleased that I was able to print a document in OO!


The whole process involves trickery worthy of Harry Potter.



Bosh. This is a work-around, not trickery.
  

A 'work-around' is 'trickery'.



I used Microsoft Office for years, using the printer I mention in my
original post (the Lexmark 4039 plus), and it NEVER even considered not
printing at the first attempt.



Good. Errr...how old is this Lexmark, and what drivers are you using? Are you 
installing printer drivers with YAST or via CUPS?
  


My printer is recognised by OpenSuse 10.2 (and 10.3) and installs the 
correxct drivers openSuSE thinks are the correct ones.


How old my printer is none of anyone's business. OpenSuSE recognises it 
and installs the appropriate driver for it. Doing a 'Test' print prints 
the correct print output.


OO - in both 10.2 (and now the new install of 10.3) then stuffs-up when 
I try and print a page.


Using Kwrite (eg) to print some text works fine.

OO stuffs up.


  

Why is OpenOffice such a bitch about printing?



It's not. Why would you assume it is? Millions of people around the world use 
it without a problem. There obviously is a problem with something on your 
machine, though.
  


Ho-hum :-( .

Got to the OO user Forum and as late as today - 13 January 2008 - there 
are questions about not being able to print in OO.



Or is it a problem with openSuse? Don't know.



Since we don't let's not assign blame just yet. People here are really good 
about helping, but it doesn't help to jump to conclusions like the above.
  
Not jumping to any 'occlusions'. Simply asking why a piece of software, 
advertised to the world as the 'Ants Pants' to replace you-know-what 
cannot print correctly. Nothing more.


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Re: [opensuse-packaging] openSUSE 11.0 - call for package updates

2008-01-12 Thread Christian Morales Vega
2008/1/10, Marcus Meissner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi folks (SUSE packagers),

 openSUSE 11.0 Beta1 is coming closer and now is a good time
 to do version updates for your packages.

 The following is a database dump/compare from the freshmeat/sf/gnome/kde
 scrapers I run.

 Always take the result with grain of salt, upgrade is still at your
 discretion.

 Ciao, Marcus

 abockover   brasero 0.6.90 0.7.0
 adrian  ntfsprogs   1.13.1 2.0.0
 ak  numactl 1.0.1  1.0.2
 anicka  bacula  2.2.6  2.2.7
 anicka  cfengine2.2.2  2.2.3
 anicka  mediawiki   1.10.0 1.10.1
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[opensuse-packaging] new perl, new glibc

2008-01-12 Thread Stephan Kulow
Hi!

There is now perl 5.10, glibc 2.7 and NetworkManager 0.7
in Factory (not yet synced out though). So don't be
suprised if you see new failures - you have to fix them
yourself :)

Greetings, Stephan
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Re: [opensuse-packaging] openSUSE 11.0 - call for package updates

2008-01-12 Thread Christian Morales Vega
2008/1/12, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Samstag 12 Januar 2008 schrieb Christian Morales Vega:
  And what happens with agfa-fonts? It is in the 10.3 DVD, but no in the
  online repository. And is still missing in Factory.

 It was never in Factory. Its license only allows shipping with products.

 Greetings, Stephan

So makes sense to mantain susedoc in the online repository? It can't
be installed without the DVD, so...
Or perhaps that dependency can be removed?
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Re: [opensuse-packaging] openSUSE 11.0 - call for package updates

2008-01-12 Thread Fridrich Strba

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Marcus Meissner wrote:
| pmladek libwpd  0.8.12 0.8.13

I would even urge if it possible to package libwpg and libwps. Both of
them are used for OpenOffice.org and AbiWord, libwpg is even used for
upcoming inkscape 0.46. Using one system version of then instead of
statically linking different versions in different products would help
even to save some space on the install media. Not speaking about the
hassle a security update would be if one had to rebuild OpenOffice.org
and Inkscape instead of just upgrading a little tiny library.

And it is not like these libraries are under-maintained. Apart a
thorough pro-active QA ever release is exposed to, I am able to fix
issues in a time of hours and release a new upstream version if needed.

Moreover, all these libraries are packaged currently in my BS home
project - home:fstrba. It is possible that the spec files could be
criticized by the public and have some little problems, but as a
starting point, they are reputed to work on all platforms I am building for.

OK, just preaching for my own parish, so if you feel like, ignore me :-)

Cheers

Fridrich
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Re: [opensuse-packaging] openSUSE 11.0 - call for package updates

2008-01-12 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Samstag 12 Januar 2008 schrieb Christian Morales Vega:
 2008/1/12, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Am Samstag 12 Januar 2008 schrieb Christian Morales Vega:
   And what happens with agfa-fonts? It is in the 10.3 DVD, but no in the
   online repository. And is still missing in Factory.
 
  It was never in Factory. Its license only allows shipping with products.
 
  Greetings, Stephan

 So makes sense to mantain susedoc in the online repository? It can't
 be installed without the DVD, so...
 Or perhaps that dependency can be removed?

Should be reduced a recommends I would think. the spec file already differs
between building in the build service or with internal build system, so it's
there.

Greetings, Stephan
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