[opensuse-marketing] Discussion Notes from osc11
Hello Folks, during the osc11 we had two discussions about openSUSE 12.1 Artwork and how to handle our git-repos for artwork in future. Here you can check out the summaries I wrote together: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rQClArJNDzSENdHl49ul_WZw43qjbUM0Z19oIMkBk4U/edit?hl=de https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eQqM7vdVPAupjfmjKaJge4vFoUoIIKEjfVOjw3Kg69c/edit?hl=de You can find them as well on my blog with some surrounding blabla :-) Currently we focus on the on the Artwork of 12.1 and there is an ongoing thread on the opensuse-artwork ML, so feel free to join the discussion ... or ongoing voting (ends today at 1800h CET). As soon as we have the 12.1 Artwork done, I take a look on the git-repo-issue. Thank you and Have fun! Robert --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
[opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper
On 22.09.2011, at 13:21, Helen South wrote: I just wanted to add, that months ago I tried to bring up some discussion about vision and theme and was told 'don't talk about it, just do it'. So the conversation more or less ended, and I didn't really follow any further discussion due to other commitments in the meantime. That is sad and I'm sorry for that. The don't talk, just do! comment is really common and it's IMHO one of the top 5 creativity and creatives-community killers! No discussion means no solid design! Now someone has just done it and put time and effort into create nice artwork, and NOW you all want to add criticisms and say you don't like this or that. This is quite absurd. We should take the criticisms like contributions for the 12.2 artwork. The artwork Richard and Piotr made are really good for the scenario we have now! On the other hand Will is absolutely right. We will not win a design-award for this. But that's ok, lets learn for the next cycle :-) There needs to be a clear artwork vision discussed well before release, outlines put forward of the look and theme that is wanted for the distribution/release, a list of what specific artworks are required. THAT is when everyone can air their views. At this point of the process it should be minor tweaks and ajustments. But THAT would have required a DISCUSSION not 'just do it'. There is a difference between bikeshedding and planning. The project needs to consult with the creative members of the team and appoint an art team leader who has a clue about what is required for the components of the release, and then TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENT to guide the artwork production. This needs to happen months before the release, not weeks. +1000 :-) We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-) Thank you for sharing you thoughts, you hit the point! Robert -- IRC: helen_au helen.so...@opensuse.org helensouth.com On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Stephan Kulow co...@suse.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2011 schrieb Will Stephenson: On Thursday 22 Sep 2011 09:21:49 Robert Lihm wrote: On 22.09.2011, at 08:13, Helen South wrote: I couldn't disagree more strongly. I think they are absolutely beautiful, stunning work. I loved Nuno's shirt design and I think these are a delightful adaptation of that design. I have made the black one my background right now! The olive green one is lovely too - the variations in color look great on my monitor. The bright one *ouch* :P I like the idea of picking up our shirt design! And I finally like how Richard made it. I would go with the less bright green ... but that's a question of taste :-) I liked the shirt design, but it's what, 18 months old now? And it is derived from what I call 'vegetative swirls' which are soo passé (check out the 2002 Garland lightshade in the 'Art and Design from the 2000s' collection at MOMA: http://bit.ly/o6nYRs) everywhere except free software graphic design. Jimmac introduced them (in a high quality execution) for 11.2 in 2009, and I pointed this out then. We don't need objections now. We need alternatives or votes. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+h...@opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: [opensuse-artwork] openSUSE-12.1 wallpaper
On 22.09.2011, at 13:54, Helen South wrote: We should start with the artwork-discussion for 12.2 directly after the release of 12.1. @Helen, would you volunteer to help me to set this up and make it a good productive thing? That would help me a lot :-) Thank you for sharing you thoughts, you hit the point! Robert Robert, I'd be glad to be involved. I'd put my openSUSE involvement on hold for some time; I need to keep it quite minimal but if we work together on planning and creation, I can be useful without overload. I'll look forward to discussing it with you a little later. Cool! Let's call it a plan! :-) Thank you! Robert -- IRC: helen_au helen.so...@opensuse.org helensouth.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
On 30.01.2011, at 00:35, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote: That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code. GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all. Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index. Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources! ;-) I agree, that we need a solution for this. We also had a discussion about this on the openSUSE Conference ... something like Designhub would be cool. Finally tools like Git are a large barrier for pure artworker, we need something like a web-UI for Git ... a simple way to share, contribute and browse (search, *) the artwork. How ever, I try to sort-out the stuff I have made and push the sources to the artwork git an png/jpgs in the wiki. But this will take a while. @Jos/Helen: you need something special? Cheers, Robert Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive. COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio). My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??) Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material! cheers Helen --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-artwork] Re: [opensuse-marketing] Sirko's recent work - my personal review...
Hey gnokii, As first, nice work! I like the red you picked (saw view proposals somewhere ... can't find the link right now). Reminds me of strawberries :-) On 07.12.2010, at 19:09, S.Kemter wrote: Am Montag 06 Dezember 2010, 12:16:09 schrieb Helen: Piratepad here: http://piratepad.net/VQM25U4GMy (only titles so far... feel free to make a start!) Thx Helen for take care of it, have more more the feeling and others are more the talkers here (and press others to work) So I can show the last 3 of the serie. The first one ist for Factory, if Tumbleweed happens then I should integrate that there so it becomes a design like that of YaST. But still working on a Tumbleweed logo. http://susepaste.org/30219482 The factory is pretty cool! You made that one? I would remove the truck/carrier and move the factory-sign on that position. IMHO it looks to full with both images. The second shows, the flxibility that u with openSUSE have that kind was requested via my personal blog. http://susepaste.org/56182122 Also cool! And I would drop the Server in the background. The swiss knife is perfect and enough. You know KISS and Less is More ;-) Over all ... well done Dude! :-) Cheers, Robert and the last one is to help explain ur release cycles. If there would be an LTS version I can simple change the calendar dates on it and so it becomes a motif for that. I am still inhappy with the design, looks boring against the other motifes, so expermenting with regroup the calendars and such stuff. http://susepaste.org/56182122 As I saw in the pad something about Bretzn, didnt a motif for that. br gnokii Helen Previously I wrote :) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Helen postmodernhousew...@gmail.com wrote: Ok if someone in Marketing team makes a Piratepad with list of titles for Gnokii's posters, and any key points they want me to mention/promote, send me the link, I'll write some text for it. You can then ajust to your needs. Helen South who really must write a funky email signature. But one is for sure, if the marketing team dont provides the text for the poster, the serie definitly not happen. br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer
On 08.10.2010, at 20:23, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On Friday 08 October 2010 19:14:23 S.Kemter wrote: Am Freitag 08 Oktober 2010, 18:26:34 schrieb Jos Poortvliet: On Friday 08 October 2010 12:21:51 Robert Lihm wrote: @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on. As soon as you really bump into limitations (eg you have more than three good SVG designs etc) let me know. But initially, I prefer to start with just a few things, then do an announcement on news.opensuse.org about the re-vitalized shop and see if people like it. If they do order things, the number of SVG's you can upload will be increased, afaik, so we can grow organically. sorry Jos its actually no good idea to start with few things because for upload ur own motives u need a professional account on spreadshirt. Then u can upload every month 20 motives. But why would you? Can't we first put up a few good designs then see if ppl like it or not? +1 But isn't our current revenue hight enough to refinance the pro-acount? R Of course - if the shop is popular enough at some point we can surely upgrade to pro. So there is no choice on the end as get an proffessional account, but that costs first money ;) br gnokii --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer
On 08.10.2010, at 10:02, Michael Loeffler wrote: Moin, On Friday 08 October 2010 02:41:06 Shayon Mukherjee wrote: On 10/07/2010 11:03 AM, Michael Loeffler wrote: Hello all , Thanks Robert for the update. Ping anytime (one of us) in case you need some help with the tasks. About the shops : My experience with Myntra was not good, the product described is not exactly (100%) what they send.It differs in respect to quality and design .Also I am not sure if country specific stores will benefit or feasible.I guess Robert can answer that.Else , sounds good to me. *Spreadshirt +1 I'd focus first on the existing spreadshirt shop and enhance here and wouldn't add any new shops for regions spreadshirt isn't shipping to. Each additional shop adds work. +1 . And how do you plan to enhance ? I feel that , we should upload/create few more designs . In other words , give users/public more options to choose from . I find the current state is really limited . Also we can add lot many other stuffs like Mugs , stickers , etc . Fully agreed. +1 In designs (for Sweatshirts and T-shirts)- we already have some good logo's . Things which we actually require are some real good slogans.Which would make the users feel good , wearing them- that said it should make them feel geeky and show the openSUSE (Gecko) love. Something like: Geek by nature , Linux by choice - Re-phrase -- Geek by nature , openSUSE by choice. The above is just an example :) . In 2007 we had a slogan contest. The winner was: openSUSE - Linux for open minds Why not using that ? And this was the collection of slogans we received: http://old-en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slogan What about the /me ha fun! under the openSUSE logo? ;-) How ever, one thing is, that we have just a basic account at Spreadshirt. This give us some limitations like we can upload only -not sure- 3 vector images. We can upload as many bitmap-images as we want, but this can be printed only on white background. @michl: Maybe we should think about a pro account? It would bring many advantages like localised shops and so on. Next thing is, that we need to summarise spreadhirts rules and our brand guide to a how to. So that people in the community can contribute artwork which work. So far :-) Robert Best Michael Also we need to investigate more on the taste of the openSUSE lovers. I mean how or what actually they want to show their love towards openSUSE (through our shop-this , we need to figure out) . I hope I made myself clear ... What we do currently with spreadshirt is that we've chosen some items, gave them an openSUSE design and set our price tag. Our price tag, what dose this mean ? Spreadshirt sell their stuff at their price. Let's take a something which would cost 15 €/$ per unit. We add normally 1 or 2 €/$ and sell it then for more. This difference (1 or 2 €/$) then goes into our pockets. This our pockets is currently Novell as openSUSE isn't yet a legal entity. With an openSUSE Foundation we could redirect this income to the Foundation. And to give you a better picture - we're not talking about a high sales rate. So we sell with the two shops 30 items a month we have a good month. Nice! And more options make --- MORE SALE ;) Any other ideas are welcome .. :) Best M Cheers ! Sj -- Michael Löffler, Product Management SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Re: openSUSE Shop maintainer
On 06.10.2010, at 23:17, Shayon Mukherjee wrote: On 10/06/2010 04:08 PM, Carlos Ribeiro wrote: Well... As I as informed a few seconds ago, our geeko friend Shayon is not in Asia anymore, moves to US but the main idea about still there . multicultural / geographically spread logic still works by our friend kknundy during irc conversation and for openSUSE Shop even works better I think. best multicultural regards to all CarlosRibeiro Em Qua, 2010-10-06 às 17:28 -0300, Carlos Ribeiro escreveu: So far so good, I believe including me, we already have 3 interested geekos about this threat and the better is that each one is from different areas, Europe, South America and meridional Asia. Having such different cultures working together and focusing on same objective results in several and different ideas that could be mixed and implemented through the openSUSE future shop. Hi all, Well good to know that , heh ! . Yes I am in US now. So where are we leading with this ?I mean Is a meeting required to jot things down and start with the task ? Or something else .? Hey all! About the shop ... we use Spreadshirt [1] as provider and include the spreadshiert-shop via iframe into our website. The stuff running on shop.o.o is static html, so no voodoo :-) I plan to move the stuff we have right now to the new Bento theme in the next time. As far as I remember we have two shops at Spreadshirt. One for Americas and one for EU/Asia/Africa. But we don't cover all countries on this way because Spreadshirt is not shipping to e.g. most African countries. I have to look into the whole shop story again. Get the login data together and so on. If you have any questions just let me know, I will give my best to deliver good answers ;-) Thank you and have a good time! Robert [1] http://www.spreadshirt.com/ Cheers Shayon (Sj) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Project-Flyer Feedback
On 04.08.2010, at 00:45, Christian Boltz wrote: Hello, on Dienstag, 3. August 2010, Robert Lihm wrote: On 03.08.2010, at 14:29, S.Kemter wrote: Am Dienstag, den 03.08.2010, 13:18 +0200 schrieb Robert Lihm: 1. The stuff will be printed and folded (!) by a print house. Yes, I know (and have some experience with creating folded flyers [and unfolded flyers and posters] using scribus ;-) 2. The flyer is targeting people who already use Linux. It should gibe a brief overview about the project, etc. The Free software page looks more like it is targeted to people not using Linux yet ;-) (at least I assume/hope most Linux users have at least heard about free software) Don't get me wrong - this is a good thing[tm] and makes the flyer also a good introduction for people not using Linux yet. I don't really expect they instantly start to use the build service, but maybe they'll start to use the distribution ;-) The front page is good as it is. I would call it serious or clean instead of boring. ACK. 2. Christian said it make the headlines in 5th leg As the flyer should be timeless and serious I decided to not use the Cholla Font (or 5th leg) in this case. Sure, its part of our branding, but I want to have a clear motion in the flyer and Cholla does not fit. A valid point and a good suggestion! Maybe we can use it next time more often. Hmm, sounds like you can't decide yourself *g* I would prefer Cholla/5th leg for the headlines. IMHO the flyer would stil look serious (hey, Cholla is not Comic Sans ;-) and would match the openSUSE branding much better. Well, Cholla is IMHO pretty close to Comic Sans ;-) However, as it seams that you are serious about this topic, here is a Cholla-Hedlined Version. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/opensuse/PR-Kit/oS-Project-Flyer-V5-Cholla-Proof2.pdf I'm ... OK with it :-) 3. second page looks to empty You mean page 6 (flyer-back) which is green too? It's not good to fill every square-inch (or square-px in web design) with informations. Sorry, but i disagree with you in this case. I still suggest to add the openSUSE logo there (small, at the bottom). Besides that: ACK Perhaps a minor thing: the lines should be at the same position (measured from top) as on the Free software page (german: Registerhaltigkeit). This basically means: - make the headlines (including free space) exactly as high as n normal text lines (n to be defined by you, n = 3 lines might be a good value) I'm not sure if i get you right. Maybe we can talk about this in german on IRC? I went through the paragraph spacing and found some cp mistakes. The font size is in general 10pt, the line height is 14pt. The paragraph spacing is 7pt. - use an empty line as paragraph delimter in the Discover it section for distro add LXDE XFCE snapshots that should fill the page We have a KDE and a Gnome shot. That enough. ACK. (Maybe less overlapping and a bit bigger?) BTW: Operating _S_ystem - should the s be lowercase? As Operating System is a name like Build Service we keep it uppercase. I'mean, its OS not Os, isn't is? :-) However, the Operating system page looks very empty. I'd add a second paragraph that lists some features of openSUSE (in a timeless way - don't list any version number there ;-) http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Distribution has some good points in the What features does openSUSE offer you? section. I'm not the best in writing english marketing texts, but let me try: (based on Portal:Distribution text) openSUSE has everything you need to do your work and play. Browse the web with Firefox, send email, write documents with OpenOffice.org, enjoy media with Banshee and Amarok, and much more. I wrote me your suggestion down. But it's to late for text changes. We definitely need to discuss the content for the flyer much earlier next time. This time we had to hurry. Sorry. Thank you a lot for your feedback! Robert Regards, Christian Boltz -- Ist doch ganz einfach. Windows arbeitet nach dem WYSIAS-Prinzip: What you see is Allgemeine Schutzverletzung! [Dieter Bruegmann in dag°] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Project-Flyer Feedback
On 04.08.2010, at 12:50, jdd wrote: Le 04/08/2010 12:37, Robert Lihm a écrit : If anyone have suggestions how to make this, just send them over. The easiest was would be to offer a file like SVG (or what ever) on the wiki. Any other ideas? the source file? from openoffice or scribus? No openoffece. I would prefer something more neutral like EPS or SVG. Well, we will see. Robert jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Project-Flyer Feedback
Hello all! I even send the setting copies to the print house. So, from now we can discuss the future ;-) Thank you for your time and feedback, it was very helpful! Have a nice day, Robert --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Project-Flyer Feedback
Hello All! As first, thank you for your feedback which was really helpful. The new version is now available here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/294274/opensuse/PR-Kit/oS-Project-Flyer-V4b.pdf We cut the text down, fixed the typos and added other screenshots. Just to answer few of your questions: 1. The stuff will be printed and folded (!) by a print house. 2. The flyer is targeting people who already use Linux. It should gibe a brief overview about the project, etc. 3. The green has a good contrast on white paper. 4. An URL-Shortener would be cool ;-) Sorry for being brief, 'm a bit in hurry :-) Thank you! Robert On 02.08.2010, at 23:08, Christian Boltz wrote: Hello, on Montag, 2. August 2010, Robert Lihm wrote: We currently work on a openSUSE PR-Kit which will contain a standard project flyer. The flyer give some basic informations about the openSUSE Project etc. Some findings in random order: - the green back side (aka page 1, middle column in the PDF) should contain the openSUSE logo. Maybe small, at the bottom? - some linebreaks on this page are unfortune: - the link to Portal:Support should be in one line. Idea: For help and support, check out ... - if possible, an-nouncement shouldn't be split to two lines - all headlines should be in Cholla / 5th leg - the Join the Project column has too much free space ;-) Does anyone have an idea what we could put there? - BTW: http://en.opensuse.org/How_to_Participate is redirected to a Portal: - please include the Portal: link - BTW 2: looks like we need an openSUSE URL shortener ;-) - The column Operating System starts with an explanation of the project. That's somewhat unexpected and makes the headline misleading. - hmm, maybe that solves the question how to fill the middle column: - move the first half of the Operating system column to the middle column - headline of middle column: The openSUSE Project - sub-headline of the middle column: Join us!, followed by the current Join the Project text - and fill the left column with some more text or another screenshot. - page order: is it intentional that Free software is the first you see when opening the flyer (aka a more prominent page)? - con: we waste a more prominent page with generic stuff. I would place the distribution there. - pro: openSUSE wouldn't exist without free software - pro: it allows to have distribution/project/build service nearby on the inner pages It's probably a matter of taste if the Free software page should be moved or not. - image size and positioning: the stair-like positioning looks good, but the build service screenshot is too high when compared to the left and middle picture. (The other question is if the positioning can be kept after applying my proposals ;-) Spelling errors (at least those I found): - How to join us: - an-nou_cments should be an-nou_n_cements - Free software: - second paragraph, second line: an should be an_d_ - please add an empty line above There are four theses - last line: to an better should be to a better (a/an is not followed by [aeiou]) - spelling question: is Join the _P_roject really correct or should it project be lowercase? (to be answered by a native english speaker) Same question for openSUSE _P_roject at multiple places. - related: case handling of all headlines should be equal. Currently Free _s_oftware doesn't match the scheme. Regards, Christian Boltz -- über browser?, wie wärs mit (ISDN)Telefon - ich hab da reboot und rcsmpppd restart Habe ich mir auch schon überlegt! Aber die Vorstellung war dann doch etwas komisch: Ja, Schatz! Ich komme gleich ins Bett! Muss nur noch kurz meinen Router (unterm Tisch) anrufen, damit er runterfährt! [ Andre Fischer und Michael Frank in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Skin for build.o.o - some little improvement needed
Hi, On 29.11.2007, at 12:59, Rémy Marquis wrote: Hi all, First, thanks to Frank Sundermeyer (and all other contributors, of course) for the nice new design for every part of opensuse.org. It's looking really really nice :) Thanx for this feedback :) But I think that build.o.o needs some (little) improvements : In general: The implementation of the current build.o.o skin is just a quick hack to have all o.o pages in a same look and feel. We currently work on 1. an update of the CSS HTML of all o.o pages (That will fix few bugs) 2. a redesign of the workflow (etc.) of the build-service web-client. We are going to do this public, so you everybody can participate. - The logo's cell is misaligned with the left menu, there is a big blank space between logo and the gray header Create it. - The main menu box is different from en.o.o and d.o.o : Get Software - vs - Download openSUSE Wiki - vs -Wiki Build Software - vs - Build Service Is it possible to change b.o.o labels to be the same as the wiki and download page ? Sure, it's possible ;) You are right, they should be the same on all pages. I missed that they aren't the same. And there is the same issue for community wiki (Get It and not Get Software). But I think I need to contact Francis Gionnaros or another member of opensuse-community's team to get it fixed... I guess Francis is the right one. Another thing about Community Wiki : It would be really nice to add a 4th item in all sub-website in this main menu : Community Wiki. As the community wiki isn't officially linked with Novell because of some legally issues, I don't know if this is possible. Sorry if these issues were already discussed here. I've done a quick search in archives, but found nothing similar :) Btw, I'm a -noemail suscriber on mailinglist, as i'm most a reader than a writer here (this is my first mail on mailinglist here ^^), so i'm not able to answer correctly in the thread. Best regards, Rémy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Robert --- Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] feature rich website design software for Linux?
On 14.11.2007, at 12:55, Billie Walsh wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: On Tuesday 13 November 2007 20:28, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Dear all My friend have finished courses of HTML and CSS (I'd like to say, she got it pretty well) and now is able to work out websites with gedit. She is starting her web design career. Now I am helping her to find out a webside design software for her Linux-based working environment. kate - http://kate-editor.org/ I used it for filesite.org, perfectreign.com and several other commercial websites I think they are wanting a graphical environment. AFAIK, there are only three. Quanta+, part of KDE [ KDE web dev package ], NVU, no longer under development, and KompoZer, kind of a carry on of NVU. There may be others, but I haven't found them. I'm sure someone will know of more. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think, Quanta+ is like Dreamweaver. To be honest, I think WYSIWYG editors are just useable in small web projects with out any programming. They are not bed for _designers_ to get in touch with HTML (etc.), but not more. I recommend: * VIM (e.g. GVIM) * Emacs * BlueFish. * Quanta+ * Komodo Edit (http://www.activestate.com/store/productdetail.aspx?prdGuid=20f4ed15-6684-4118-a78b-d37ff4058c5f ) On OS X I would recommend TextMate (http://macromates.com/). It's a shame, that there is no free editor out there which is so comfortable like TextMate! Cheers! Robert --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] feature rich website design software for Linux?
On 14.11.2007, at 17:16, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Robert Lihm wrote: On 14.11.2007, at 12:55, Billie Walsh wrote: Kai Ponte wrote: On Tuesday 13 November 2007 20:28, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Dear all My friend have finished courses of HTML and CSS (I'd like to say, she got it pretty well) and now is able to work out websites with gedit. She is starting her web design career. Now I am helping her to find out a webside design software for her Linux-based working environment. kate - http://kate-editor.org/ I used it for filesite.org, perfectreign.com and several other commercial websites I think they are wanting a graphical environment. AFAIK, there are only three. Quanta+, part of KDE [ KDE web dev package ], NVU, no longer under development, and KompoZer, kind of a carry on of NVU. There may be others, but I haven't found them. I'm sure someone will know of more. --To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think, Quanta+ is like Dreamweaver. To be honest, I think WYSIWYG editors are just useable in small web projects with out any programming. TRUE! That's what she decide to do for her career. She will have a lot of macrobusiness customers and she probably will always forward websites with programming requirements or big ones to other companies. Different people do have different needs (and seems we got a lot of big site developers on this list) They are not bed for _designers_ to get in touch with HTML (etc.), but not more. Yeah but she don't need more. I recommend: * VIM (e.g. GVIM) * Emacs * BlueFish. * Quanta+ * Komodo Edit (http://www.activestate.com/store/productdetail.aspx?prdGuid=20f4ed15-6684-4118-a78b-d37ff4058c5f ) On OS X I would recommend TextMate (http://macromates.com/). It's a shame, that there is no free editor out there which is so comfortable like TextMate! Yeah gvim is my No.1 choice for my years of web development career. But after having enough touch with people doing different kinds of jobs and living different life style, I am now able to try think user requirements from a lot of different angels. I know what she needs, it is /not/ a text editor. Think about a soho web designer drink coffee with his customer when finishing a business, the customer is a tailor who run macrobusiness. The designer can drag and drop a piece to form a picture and ask the customer do you prefer this color and that shape? He also open gallery to help customer to choose a good background image from www.sxc.hu. If he does all these with a text editor, the customer have already finished several cups and gets either distracted or annoyed by a lot of magic code. The small web site designer simple cannot compete with those who use dreamweaver. These small customers are not the IT manager who draw grant charts and make table of deliverables before starting of a project. To do small web design business you can hardly go without a graphical designer. It's not only a lazy way to avoid learning HTML/CSS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, that's my experience, too. And that's why Dreamweaver is the de facto standard in all the media agencies! Normally the job of a designer is talking, scratching, pushing pixels (cooking drinking coffee) ... well designing and not coding. Knowing to much about code can easily kills your creativity! I wish her a lot of luck and not so many stu*** clients ;) Robert --- Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] help/support performance
On 13.11.2007, at 17:06, jdd wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-11-13 at 13:25 +0100, jdd wrote: Sven Burmeister wrote: I don't think the whole wiki is help as such. it is. what is a help in your mind? shouting help?? the help domain is only usefull for people wanting an other sort of indexing As a user, I simply don't know how to find help for a particular problem in the wiki - unless somebody tells me the exact page, and then I bookmark it. I agree. However, I don't think ubunto system is better (I see tons of questions for help about ubuntu on my LUG mailing list). in fact, no system is ideal. I never said the wiki is ideal, but what mean help? nothing. all is a question on page content. The help domain page content may agree some people and the wiki some other, and google some other again. there are two different things: pages content and indexes. pages contents are manual, LfL, wiki, novell data base, sdb, mailins lists, forums, news groups, IRC... indexes are : wiki front page, wiki categories, wiki portals, wiki inexes, help domain, build search, wiki search, google... of course the list is not complete. we can share as many indexes as we can maintain, each will please a given group of users but we should not use too many page contents, because the real info is there and it's extremely difficult to sync several similar pages jdd In general, we should differ between help/support for 'advanced users'/ experts and newbies. These two groups need different help in a different way! Currently we serve just the expert, what is bad! help.o.o is AFAIK just a hlep-page for How to get help. That is a good fist step :) Take a look on Apples-Suppot Pages. They are not perfect! But they have some interesting ideas too. About the openSUSE-Box. The idea behind the box is, that all o.o pages are listed there. And I don't think, that they should be localised, because ... imagine that you end up as a Czech on a ... e.g Japanese openSUSE-Wiki Page where everything -including the openSUSE Box- is localised. You are lost :) So, as I wrote before, I will add the other o.o-pages to these box as soon as possible. The front-page needs to be reviewed. Till I do this the http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7370/help1le5.png draft shows more or less what I had in mind in my last post. I'm going to do this ASAP, too. That's IMHO a valid workaround. -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2007/10/27/127022-Claire-Dodin-une-Toulousaine-extreme.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far ... :) Robert --- Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] help/support performance
On 12.11.2007, at 12:45, Martin Schlander wrote: Den Monday 12 November 2007 11:31:57 skrev Robert Lihm: I totally agree, that the help.o.o page is not easy to find when you come from the web. You have the same situation with news.o.o and users.o.o. Tat is pretty bad! I think, the easiest way to face this problem is a combo box on the fist page, which contains all sub-pages (like the language combo box at discover it). That would be a good workaround for a while. Any vetoes? I could do it in the next days. I don't think it's enough to just have it on the splash (www.o.o). Couldn't we easily also add links to help.o.o, news.o.o and users.o.o in the openSUSE-box in the left pane of normal wiki pages (en.o.o)? (where there are already links to get software, openSUSE wiki and build software). Yes , we will do this. That is, what the box is for :) I planed to do such thing when Franks is back at work (= December) and we make some general technical changes on all o.o pages. May I find some time to make it earlier; no promise :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert --- Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer - Build Service Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Installation Videos
On 27.10.2007, at 12:43, Charles Li wrote: Hi, Good, why pop out, just put it into wiki page as a tutorial. On 10/27/07, Francis Giannaros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be a great idea to link to the installation videos from software.o.o. Or, even better, just make it pop up a small window that embeds both of the videos. Like this: http://francis.giannaros.org/videos.html Any thoughts? Regards, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right, the software.o.o page should point to the videos. I add it to my ToDo-list. I think, a simple Wiki-Page + HowTo would be enough for the moment. In future we could display the videos on a layer, overlaying the software page. That could be cool. -- Sincerely Yours, Charles Li - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Robert -- Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] After upload a picture, it prompt 'Object not found!'
Hi! On 23.10.2007, at 04:21, Charles Li wrote: Dear all, After I did upload the new picture in http://cn.opensuse.org/Image:Kontact.jpg that is Kontact-todo.png from the en.opensuse.org, then click the picture, it redirect to http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/cn/d/dc/Kontact.jpg, and it prompt 'Object not found!' So what's wrong with the server? You could link directly to http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/f/f8/ Kontact-todo.png Just as workaround. -- Sincerely Yours, Charles Li - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers! Robert Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Sponsors/IP_Exchange
Hi, On 19.10.2007, at 16:16, Francis Giannaros wrote: Awesome to hear about the new sponsor! Though, why is the information in German on the English page? :o It's because we have no English text right right now :-/ Sorry! I hope we get one soon. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers! Robert Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] new skin management
On 25.09.2007, at 11:41, jdd wrote: Stephan Binner wrote: On Tuesday 25 September 2007 09:16:17 jdd wrote: The new skin is beautifull, but How can I edit the right column? Edit MediaWiki:Mainpagerightcolumn nice, done, thanks You may have noticed that translated wikis (at least french one :-) have a very long back page notice. with the standard layout, this is hudge and confusing. As a guess for a solution, I used for it the div class=toc special_info already used for the page hat. This seems very smart, and enclose the page in two similar paragraphs. However I can undo this if you don't like it. IMHO, that's a great solution! Maybe we can make it with out the geeko-tail, but that's a low prio. detail ;-) advices needed, thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Salut! Robert Robert Lihm, Webdesigner SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-116 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Re: md5sums on download page
On 20.09.2007, at 14:14, Francis Giannaros wrote: On 9/20/07, Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 01:02:51PM +0100, Francis Giannaros wrote: On 9/20/07, Francis Giannaros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, For several releases now people haven't been able to find the MD5SUMs straight away (see news.o.o comments). I think it might be a good idea to have a link to them on the s.o.o page. Any thoughts? The Live CD links are missing too. Francis, both suggestions make a lot of sense to me. Could you please push them into Bugzilla and assign the bug to Robert Lihm? Sure: Bug 326783 Submitted. K, I take a look on it on Monday. Kind thoughts, -- Francis Giannaros http://francis.giannaros.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers! Robert Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-116 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] opensuse.org site updates
Hi, On 30.07.2007, at 07:46, Stevens wrote: On Sunday 29 July 2007 20:31, joe wrote: I viewed source and saw it instantly - and it's still there as I write this. Joe I looked at http://www.opensuse.org and did not see any source that has !-- // window.onload = document.lang_form.reset(); // window.onload = alert('Fuck it'); function jumpMenu(targ,selectedObject,restore){ eval(targ+.location='+selectedObject.options [selectedObject.selectedIndex].value+'); if (restore) selectedObject.selectedIndex=0; } //-- What am I doing wrong? Why am I not able to view the same source? Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well ... that's real life. :-) I'm fixing it right now. Bye, Robert Robert Lihm, Graphics Designer SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] New wiki skin: RC1
Hay´a! On 12.06.2007, at 15:58, jdd wrote: Frank Sundermeyer wrote: Hi, thanks to your great feedback (a special thanks to Christian Boltz, who discovered most bugs) I managed to eliminate hopefully all bugs from the new wiki skin and now proudly present the first Release Candidate on http://en.test.opensuse.org/ At the moment I know of only one open issue: - the logo display when using very small font sizes in Gecko/ KHTML browsers (not sure whether this is resolvable at all) BTW: An RC1 for download.opensuse.org will follow ASAP. very nice. may be for a future skin, but I don't know how it's possible in Mediawiki, PmWiki triad skin have a switch for visually impaired people here in french http://www.culte.org/pmwiki/?n=Main.HomePage? setview=standardsetfontsize=90 in english: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/TriadSkin (look at the buttons big view,text size) we _have_ to think a lot at such solutions, computers are often a salvation for such people (We have an impaired center near our LUG and many visually impaired people with us) I absolutely agree. Accessibility is a very important point! We should implement something like this in future (future != 'when we have nothing else to do' ;-). That should not be so hard. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://gourmandises.orangeblog.fr/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers :-) Robert Lihm Graphics Designer Robert Lihm, User eXperience Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Web design consolidation - please comment
Hi Am 12.04.2007 um 09:33 schrieb Sven Burmeister: Hi! On Tuesday 10 April 2007 17:18, Martin Schlander wrote: Can't we find a more lively green? I would second this. IMO the current green is too dark to be used with that large areas. About the different greens ... I know, they do not fit together and I ´m looking for a alternative green. The original SUSE Green is to bright and dominant. I let you know if I find one ... and ´m open for suggestions :) Sven Robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Lihm Graphics Designer Robert Lihm, Interfaces Applications SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-116 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Web design consolidation - please comment
Hi guys! first of all, thank you for your nice and helpful suggestions! After your suggestions, some discussions with my designer-colleague and some sleepless nights :) ... ... here is a new draft: http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/9/91/Wiki_mockup.jpg Please take a look at my drafts for the other sections on http:// en.opensuse.org/User:Rlihm As the layout was already approved by openSUSE and Novell marketing we could start with the redesign in the next days/weeks. I´m looking forward for your comments! Take care! Robert Lihm Graphics Designer Robert Lihm, Interfaces Applications SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-116 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] [sponsors]Web design consolidation - please comment
Am 10.04.2007 um 14:13 schrieb jdd: Robert Lihm wrote: Please take a look at my drafts for the other sections on http:// en.opensuse.org/User:Rlihm I noticed the sponsor line at the bottom of the frontpage. Is that really true? Having other sponsors than Novell (and so well known ones) is a great news and may enhance the independance of openSUSE (even if Novell is still proeminent :-) Sorry, the logos are just for demonstration. My mistake. I already removed them. But soon you will find there real sponsors ;) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net Lucien Dodin, inventeur http://lucien.dodin.net/index.shtml - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] bye Robert Lihm Graphics Designer Robert Lihm, Interfaces Applications SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-116 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Web design consolidation - please comment
* don't you plan to use the big empty place on top (under the register) to give the name of openSUSE ?? It´s planed to fill the big empty box with a eye candy. I had no time to make something :) Any suggestions/wishes? Robert Lihm Graphics Designer Robert Lihm, Interfaces Applications SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-116 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]