Re: [opensuse] Re: What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)

2007-03-26 Thread Kai Ponte
On Monday 26 March 2007 06:10:23 pm David Brodbeck wrote:
> I decided, after reading this thread, to give it another shot.  I
> installed wine and winetools off Packman and tried to go through the
> winetools setup procedure.  A lot of the setup options in winetools
> crashed with debugger messages.  I almost got Internet Explorer 6 to run
> on my laptop this way -- it installed, but running it just gave me a
> blank window.  I tried it on my desktop and couldn't even get a 'fake
> Windows drive' created that winetools thought was valid.

I've never installed Wine. I've successfully installed CrossOver office on 
multiple machines.

If you want just IE - and various plugins, you can use IES4Linux, which is an 
embedded Wine version with the ability to install plugins...

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

Example of a site I did with the Whip! plugin (back when I was stupid) running 
IES4Linux on my laptop: 
http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/suse/2007/20070316_ies4linux_sbcounty.jpg
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Re: [opensuse] Re: What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)

2007-03-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> David Brodbeck wrote:
>   
>> I don't know why, but Wine has always fought me at every turn.  I've
>> never successfully gotten it to run anything more complicated than Solitare.
>> 
>
> Well, as usual, it depends.
>
> For example I used it to run ie6/word/excel/powerpoint/outlook 2000 and
> the MS Office viewers successfully, but I see (nearly) no point in doing
> this, since Linux offers so much natively.
>
> Imho a worthwhile exception might be the office viewers from MS.
>
> Although they are really rarely used on my machines, they always offer
> you the "Officially Microsoft approved way of looking at an Office
> document". Rarely used but sometimes _REALLY_ useful.
>   

I decided, after reading this thread, to give it another shot.  I
installed wine and winetools off Packman and tried to go through the
winetools setup procedure.  A lot of the setup options in winetools
crashed with debugger messages.  I almost got Internet Explorer 6 to run
on my laptop this way -- it installed, but running it just gave me a
blank window.  I tried it on my desktop and couldn't even get a 'fake
Windows drive' created that winetools thought was valid.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)

2007-03-26 Thread Jos van Kan
Eberhard Roloff wrote:
(about apps where to use wine for)
> Imho a worthwhile exception might be the office viewers from MS.
> 
> Although they are really rarely used on my machines, they always offer
> you the "Officially Microsoft approved way of looking at an Office
> document". Rarely used but sometimes _REALLY_ useful.

Actually there's exactly *one* app I use wine for and that is dvdshrink. I know
there's a Linux CLI port  but it's not nearly as good.
There are some quirks about this app too, BTW, it only manages *files* not
*discs* so you have to vobcopy the dvd's first. (IIRC Fred Stevens complained
about this a couple of weeks ago as a bug in 10.2, but it dates back to at least
9.3)

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[opensuse] Re: What I Want (was Why I don't upgrade often)

2007-03-25 Thread Eberhard Roloff
David Brodbeck wrote:
> Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>> It actually works quite well on just the Wine version that ships with
>> openSUSE.  IE has worked in Wine for quite awhile.
>>   
> 
> I don't know why, but Wine has always fought me at every turn.  I've
> never successfully gotten it to run anything more complicated than Solitare.

Well, as usual, it depends.

For example I used it to run ie6/word/excel/powerpoint/outlook 2000 and
the MS Office viewers successfully, but I see (nearly) no point in doing
this, since Linux offers so much natively.

Imho a worthwhile exception might be the office viewers from MS.

Although they are really rarely used on my machines, they always offer
you the "Officially Microsoft approved way of looking at an Office
document". Rarely used but sometimes _REALLY_ useful.

kind regards
Eberhard

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