Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-26 Thread A. den Oudsten

David Brodbeck wrote:

A. den Oudsten wrote:


nv (no 3D-support)

So I suppose that my card indeed is too old for 3D



No, you're using the open-source nv driver, which has no 3D acceleration
whatsoever.  You need to use the binary drivers from NVIDIA's site to
get acceleration.



I followed the instructions from Nvidia and Suse and installed the drivers.

I have now 3D support at about 2000 frames in 5.0 seconds

Thanks for the suggestions!!

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-23 Thread A. den Oudsten

John Andersen wrote:

On Thursday 22 February 2007, A. den Oudsten wrote:


John Andersen wrote:


On Wednesday 21 February 2007, A. den Oudsten wrote:


So, what is the output of glxgears?

Joe


Nice running blue red and green gears!!

Andre


Andre, he meant you should launch it from a shell and
report the numbers, not the colors...  ;-)


Next to the running gears this is what appeared on the screen after
'glxgears'


762 frames in 5.0 seconds = 152.330 FPS
749 frames in 5.0 seconds = 149.599 FPS
611 frames in 5.0 seconds = 122.001 FPS
654 frames in 5.0 seconds = 130.662 FPS
665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.999 FPS
661 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.050 FPS
661 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.144 FPS

André



Those numbers are pretty poor.  They should be a factor
of 10 higher if you can get hardware rendering working.


In my sysinfo:

nVidia Corporation
GeForce2 MX 100/200
nv (no 3D-support)

So I suppose that my card indeed is too old for 3D

Thanks for the discussion
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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-23 Thread J Sloan
A. den Oudsten wrote:
 Next to the running gears this is what appeared on the screen after
 'glxgears'


 762 frames in 5.0 seconds = 152.330 FPS
 749 frames in 5.0 seconds = 149.599 FPS
 611 frames in 5.0 seconds = 122.001 FPS
 654 frames in 5.0 seconds = 130.662 FPS
 665 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.999 FPS
 661 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.050 FPS
 661 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.144 FPS

 André


 Those numbers are pretty poor.  They should be a factor
 of 10 higher if you can get hardware rendering working.

 In my sysinfo:

 nVidia Corporation
 GeForce2 MX 100/200
 nv (no 3D-support)

 So I suppose that my card indeed is too old for 3D

Those numbers indicate you are not using the nvidia drivers, and the
sysinfo confirms it.

That card should be well supported by the nvidia legacy driver,
available on their website.

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-22 Thread A. den Oudsten

J Sloan wrote:


A. den Oudsten wrote:



Nvidia has a generic update for my card in Linux and is already in
openSUSE 10.2



So, what is the output of glxgears?

Joe

Nice running blue red and green gears!!

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-22 Thread John Andersen
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, A. den Oudsten wrote:
  So, what is the output of glxgears?
 
  Joe

 Nice running blue red and green gears!!

 Andre

Andre, he meant you should launch it from a shell and 
report the numbers, not the colors...  ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-21 Thread J Sloan


A. den Oudsten wrote:

 Nvidia has a generic update for my card in Linux and is already in
 openSUSE 10.2

So, what is the output of glxgears?

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-19 Thread A. den Oudsten

Randall R Schulz wrote:

On Saturday 17 February 2007 17:26, Bob S wrote:


Hello SuSE people

Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some
kind. What do I need to do to run it.



Say the downloaded installer file is called GoogleEarthLinux.bin. To 
launch the installer you'd issue this command:


% sh GoogleEarthInstaller.bin

I don't recall any more, but you may have to answer some questions. 
You'll probably at least have to affirm your acceptance of the license 
under which that software is distributed.



If you do this as your usual non-root user, then the files installed 
will be owned by you, which is OK. If for some reason you want the 
files to be owned by some other user, su to that user first.





Bob S.




Randall Schulz

I'm running openSUSE 10.2 and downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin version 4.
Running sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin - as required at the download site - 
installed GoogleEarthLinux.

Running googleearth gave me a startscreen and a crash of KDE.
The command sh GoogleEarthInstaller did not work.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Andre den Oudsten

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-19 Thread Robert Lewis
A. den Oudsten wrote:
 Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Saturday 17 February 2007 17:26, Bob S wrote:

 Hello SuSE people

 Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some
 kind. What do I need to do to run it.


 Say the downloaded installer file is called GoogleEarthLinux.bin.
 To launch the installer you'd issue this command:

 % sh GoogleEarthInstaller.bin

 I don't recall any more, but you may have to answer some questions.
 You'll probably at least have to affirm your acceptance of the
 license under which that software is distributed.


 If you do this as your usual non-root user, then the files installed
 will be owned by you, which is OK. If for some reason you want the
 files to be owned by some other user, su to that user first.



 Bob S.



 Randall Schulz
 I'm running openSUSE 10.2 and downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin version 4.
 Running sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin - as required at the download site -
 installed GoogleEarthLinux.
 Running googleearth gave me a startscreen and a crash of KDE.
 The command sh GoogleEarthInstaller did not work.
 Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Andre den Oudsten
I d/l version 4 last night and installed it.  It came up just perfect
and very impressive.
I am using 10.2 too.  I wonder what the difference is between your
installation and
mine.  I am using an NVIDIA card with 3D acceleration.
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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-19 Thread A. den Oudsten

Robert Lewis wrote:

A. den Oudsten wrote:


Randall R Schulz wrote:


On Saturday 17 February 2007 17:26, Bob S wrote:



Hello SuSE people

Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some
kind. What do I need to do to run it.



Say the downloaded installer file is called GoogleEarthLinux.bin.
To launch the installer you'd issue this command:

% sh GoogleEarthInstaller.bin

I don't recall any more, but you may have to answer some questions.
You'll probably at least have to affirm your acceptance of the
license under which that software is distributed.


If you do this as your usual non-root user, then the files installed
will be owned by you, which is OK. If for some reason you want the
files to be owned by some other user, su to that user first.





Bob S.




Randall Schulz


I'm running openSUSE 10.2 and downloaded GoogleEarthLinux.bin version 4.
Running sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin - as required at the download site -
installed GoogleEarthLinux.
Running googleearth gave me a startscreen and a crash of KDE.
The command sh GoogleEarthInstaller did not work.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Andre den Oudsten


I d/l version 4 last night and installed it.  It came up just perfect
and very impressive.
I am using 10.2 too.  I wonder what the difference is between your
installation and
mine.  I am using an NVIDIA card with 3D acceleration.


My card is a GEFORCE-2 MX-200 32MB AGP + TV-OUT and from 2001, so could 
be a little outdated!!

Thanks,

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-19 Thread J Sloan
A. den Oudsten wrote:

 My card is a GEFORCE-2 MX-200 32MB AGP + TV-OUT and from 2001, so could
 be a little outdated!!
 Thanks,

Card should be OK, but are you using the Nvidia binary driver for hardware
accelerated OpenGL, or just the non-accelerated nv driver?

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-19 Thread A. den Oudsten

J Sloan wrote:

A. den Oudsten wrote:



My card is a GEFORCE-2 MX-200 32MB AGP + TV-OUT and from 2001, so could
be a little outdated!!
Thanks,



Card should be OK, but are you using the Nvidia binary driver for hardware
accelerated OpenGL, or just the non-accelerated nv driver?

Joe
I just installed openSUSE 10.2 as it is and I have no idea what kind of 
driver for that card is installed.


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-19 Thread J Sloan


A. den Oudsten wrote:
 J Sloan wrote:
 A. den Oudsten wrote:


 My card is a GEFORCE-2 MX-200 32MB AGP + TV-OUT and from 2001, so could
 be a little outdated!!
 Thanks,


 Card should be OK, but are you using the Nvidia binary driver for
 hardware
 accelerated OpenGL, or just the non-accelerated nv driver?

 Joe
 I just installed openSUSE 10.2 as it is and I have no idea what kind of
 driver for that card is installed.

Unlike earlier editions of SuSE Linux, where installing the accelerated nvidia
drivers was done with just a mouse click in online update, you now have to do
a bit of tweaking to get them installed, using one of 2 methods.

Experienced users often just download the latest linux video drivers from
nvidia.com and install by hand according to the directions there, but then the
nvidia driver has to be rebuilt if the kernel is ever upgraded.

The other way involves adding the nvidia driver repo to your software sources
- I think there are some howtos on that floating around.

In either case, the nvidia driver makes a dramatic difference in the video
performance.

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Bos
Op zondag 18 februari 2007 05:45, schreef Randall R Schulz:
  Worked great.Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus
  larger, would you?

 I believe it's a GTK application, so its GUI fonts (menu and such) can
 probably be configured via the Gnome Control Center.

Wrong, see: http://www.trolltech.com/customers/allcustomers/google/ 
http://www.trolltech.com/pdf/Introducing_Qt_1006.pdf (page 31)

= It's a QT app.


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 18 February 2007 00:49, Richard Bos wrote:
 Op zondag 18 februari 2007 05:45, schreef Randall R Schulz:
   Worked great.Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the
   menus larger, would you?
 
  I believe it's a GTK application, so its GUI fonts (menu and such)
  can probably be configured via the Gnome Control Center.

 Wrong, see: http://www.trolltech.com/customers/allcustomers/google/
 http://www.trolltech.com/pdf/Introducing_Qt_1006.pdf (page 31)

 = It's a QT app.

In that case it should respond to the KDE control center settings, 
right?


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Richard Bos
Op zondag 18 februari 2007 16:35, schreef Randall R Schulz:
  = It's a QT app.

 In that case it should respond to the KDE control center settings,
 right?

Hmm, difficult to say.  I would say it is independent of kde.  KDE is built on 
top of QT and as such kde would pick up changes that are made to QT, but not 
the other way around.  There is a ~/.qt directory, perhaps you're looking for 
that?

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 18 February 2007 07:44, Richard Bos wrote:
 Op zondag 18 februari 2007 16:35, schreef Randall R Schulz:
   = It's a QT app.
 
  In that case it should respond to the KDE control center settings,
  right?

 Hmm, difficult to say.  I would say it is independent of kde.  KDE is
 built on top of QT and as such kde would pick up changes that are
 made to QT, but not the other way around.  There is a ~/.qt
 directory, perhaps you're looking for that?

I'm not looking for anything. Google Earth works fine for me. The OP is 
dissatisfied with the appearance of fonts in their Google Earth. It has 
no built-in font controls, so it must be getting its font settings from 
something external to it. Isn't that how GTK-based applications work? 
Don't they get their various GUI settings from the Gnome Control 
Center.


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 18 February 2007 16:56, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 I'm not looking for anything. Google Earth works fine for me. The OP is
 dissatisfied with the appearance of fonts in their Google Earth. It has
 no built-in font controls, so it must be getting its font settings from
 something external to it. Isn't that how GTK-based applications work?
 Don't they get their various GUI settings from the Gnome Control
 Center.

Not necessarily. gtk != gnome. In particular, since Google Earth gives you a 
warning if you don't have Bitstream Vera installed, it must have its font 
settings hard coded

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Sunny

To join some noise to the OT :)

I just installed Google Earth on my 10.0 x86_64. After I start it, it
displays the splash screen and hangs there forever, getting 95% CPU.
Any ideas what may be wrong?

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT
  Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date  Time: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:18:31 -0600

[Sunny] == Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

Sunny I just installed Google Earth on my 10.0 x86_64. After I start it, it
Sunny displays the splash screen and hangs there forever, getting 95% CPU.
Sunny Any ideas what may be wrong?

If you are using ATI's video card, its driver causes such a phenomenon.

Regards.

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 18 February 2007 17:18, Sunny wrote:
 To join some noise to the OT :)

 I just installed Google Earth on my 10.0 x86_64. After I start it, it
 displays the splash screen and hangs there forever, getting 95% CPU.
 Any ideas what may be wrong?

Not sure, it works perfectly well on my 64 bit install of 10.2

Do you have your 3d acceleration in working order?

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Sunny

On 2/18/07, Masaru Nomiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

In the Message;

  Subject: Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT
  Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date  Time: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:18:31 -0600

[Sunny] == Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

Sunny I just installed Google Earth on my 10.0 x86_64. After I start it, it
Sunny displays the splash screen and hangs there forever, getting 95% CPU.
Sunny Any ideas what may be wrong?

If you are using ATI's video card, its driver causes such a phenomenon.



Yes, it is ATI. Any workaround?


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sunday 18 February 2007 00:49, Richard Bos wrote:
 Op zondag 18 februari 2007 05:45, schreef Randall R Schulz:
   Worked great.Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus
   larger, would you?
 
  I believe it's a GTK application, so its GUI fonts (menu and such) can
  probably be configured via the Gnome Control Center.

 Wrong, see: http://www.trolltech.com/customers/allcustomers/google/
 http://www.trolltech.com/pdf/Introducing_Qt_1006.pdf (page 31)

 = It's a QT app.

That is correct. Being Qt, it can be ported to the Cult of Mac, Wintendo or 
Linux/Unix. 

I believe the menu is set by the program itself. 

You can get help here in the google groups for google earth...

http://groups.google.com/group/earth-help

There are no current posts regarding the menu font, but you can certianly ask.


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 17 February 2007 21:06, Bob S wrote:
...
 Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus
 larger, would you?

In your home directory:
~/.googleearth/Registry/google/googleearthplus/User/render
the file that contains font size is:
guifontsize

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread J Sloan


Sunny wrote:
 On 2/18/07, Masaru Nomiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 In the Message;

   Subject: Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT
   Message-ID :
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date  Time: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:18:31 -0600

 [Sunny] == Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

 Sunny I just installed Google Earth on my 10.0 x86_64. After I start
 it, it
 Sunny displays the splash screen and hangs there forever, getting 95%
 CPU.
 Sunny Any ideas what may be wrong?

 If you are using ATI's video card, its driver causes such a phenomenon.

 
 Yes, it is ATI. Any workaround?

Toss the ATI card, install an Nvidia card?

SCNR

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread John Andersen
On Sunday 18 February 2007, J Sloan wrote:
 Sunny wrote:
  On 2/18/07, Masaru Nomiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  In the Message;
 
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT
Message-ID :
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date  Time: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:18:31 -0600
 
  [Sunny] == Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:
 
  Sunny I just installed Google Earth on my 10.0 x86_64. After I start
  it, it
  Sunny displays the splash screen and hangs there forever, getting 95%
  CPU.
  Sunny Any ideas what may be wrong?
 
  If you are using ATI's video card, its driver causes such a phenomenon.
 
  Yes, it is ATI. Any workaround?

 Toss the ATI card, install an Nvidia card?

Not helpful. Often, not even an option for laptops.  



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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Bob S
On Sunday 18 February 2007 12:52, Rajko M. wrote:
 On Saturday 17 February 2007 21:06, Bob S wrote:
 ...

  Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus
  larger, would you?

 In your home directory:
 ~/.googleearth/Registry/google/googleearthplus/User/render
 the file that contains font size is:
 guifontsize

Ah ! Rajko  !!!

You are The Man !  Worked beautifully.  I was a little worried about 
usability for me as I am sight impaired.

Thanks again

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-18 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 18 February 2007 22:21, Bob S wrote:
 On Sunday 18 February 2007 12:52, Rajko M. wrote:
  On Saturday 17 February 2007 21:06, Bob S wrote:
  ...
 
   Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus
   larger, would you?
 
  In your home directory:
  ~/.googleearth/Registry/google/googleearthplus/User/render
  the file that contains font size is:
  guifontsize

 Ah ! Rajko  !!!

 You are The Man !  Worked beautifully.  I was a little worried about
 usability for me as I am sight impaired.

 Thanks again

 Bob S

You are welcome. 
Now if would be able to find out what for is used Bitstream Vera Sans. 
I disabled notification on every start about missing font, so that doesn't bug 
me, but I would like to know what for it is used, if at all. 

I followed advice of Felix Miata in another thread, to replace Bitstream Vera 
Sans with DejaVu Sans, but nothing that I can see on the screen seems to use 
that font. It seems to be a spare, just in case. 

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[opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-17 Thread Bob S
Hello SuSE people

Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some 
kind. What do I need to do to run it.

Bob S.
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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-17 Thread J Sloan
Bob S wrote:
 Hello SuSE people
 
 Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some 
 kind. What do I need to do to run it.



sh GoogleEarthLinux.bin

to start the installer. No need to become root, it installs in your home dir.

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 17 February 2007 17:26, Bob S wrote:
 Hello SuSE people

 Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some
 kind. What do I need to do to run it.

Say the downloaded installer file is called GoogleEarthLinux.bin. To 
launch the installer you'd issue this command:

% sh GoogleEarthInstaller.bin

I don't recall any more, but you may have to answer some questions. 
You'll probably at least have to affirm your acceptance of the license 
under which that software is distributed.


If you do this as your usual non-root user, then the files installed 
will be owned by you, which is OK. If for some reason you want the 
files to be owned by some other user, su to that user first.


 Bob S.


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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-17-07 20:24]:
 Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some
 kind. What do I need to do to run it.

The instructions that are provided by google where you downloaded
googleearth.

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-17 Thread Bob S
On Saturday 17 February 2007 20:29, Randall R Schulz wrote:
 On Saturday 17 February 2007 17:26, Bob S wrote:
  Hello SuSE people
 
  Downloaded Google Earth this afternoon. Seems to be a script of some
  kind. What do I need to do to run it.

 Say the downloaded installer file is called GoogleEarthLinux.bin. To
 launch the installer you'd issue this command:

 % sh GoogleEarthInstaller.bin

 I don't recall any more, but you may have to answer some questions.
 You'll probably at least have to affirm your acceptance of the license
 under which that software is distributed.


 If you do this as your usual non-root user, then the files installed
 will be owned by you, which is OK. If for some reason you want the
 files to be owned by some other user, su to that user first.

Thanks Joe  Randall,

Worked great.Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus 
larger, would you?

Bob S.

UThanks? Patrick ?
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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth OT

2007-02-17 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 17 February 2007 19:06, Bob S wrote:
 On Saturday 17 February 2007 20:29, Randall R Schulz wrote:
  ...

 Thanks Joe  Randall,

De nada.


 Worked great.Wouldn't know how to make those teeny fonts in the menus
 larger, would you?

I believe it's a GTK application, so its GUI fonts (menu and such) can 
probably be configured via the Gnome Control Center.


 Bob S.


Randall Schulz
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