Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Sunday 06 January 2008 05:22:45 Aaron Kulkis wrote: > Philippe Landau wrote: > > Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > >> Shibu Basheer escribió: > >> "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." > >> - Albert Einstein > > > > His plagiarism interfered just as much. > > http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html > > Einstein never claimed to be doing anything original. > All he did was assume that ALL of the experimental > data was, in fact, correct, even though it appeared > to be contradictory. He then asked himself, if all > of this data is correct, then what is the explanation > for it all? > > What Einstein did is was to take the physics community > and reposition the viewpoint to the one place where > ALL of the data made sense simultaneously. > > Einstein never claimed to be all that great. > Einstein himself said the following: > > "If I have seen farther, it is only because I am > standing on the shoulders of giants." Actually, that quote is not attributable to Einstein, it's from Sir Isaac Newton. (in fact there is evidence it predates him, but it the quote is generally referred to with Newton in mind) Jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Shanahan schreef: > * M9. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-06-08 11:14]: > >> Patrick Shanahan schreef: > >>> Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now to >>> make the previous statement. And the post was *not* about you in >>> particular, but feel guilty if you must. >> ??? > > > Brown bottles of amber liquid :^) > Ahh, ..hik..beer..hik...? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.24-rc6-2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha0 KDE: 3.5.8 "release 28" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgRfuX5/X5X6LpDgRAjdWAKDc124pvEqtV90OTvRTBacqS1V+sQCffYUc kk//QYd1XLnFTIfJXmJDyZo= =qA99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Mark Venn wrote: > Have you checked if the CPU fan is running OK and are the fins on the > heat sink clear of crud. I sorted a system that was shutting down by > cleaning off a layer of dust that looked like felt it was so badly > blocked. > Exactly the same thing happened with a Toshiba laptop of mine. After removing the felt, it now runs indefinitely without shutting down, whereas before, it used to run for only 20 or so minutes at a time. With that computer, however, the symptom wasn't that it would reboot. Instead, it would simply quit, and become nonresponsive. I'd need to power it down and restart it, after which it would continue for a short while, then repeat. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Have you checked if the CPU fan is running OK and are the fins on the heat sink clear of crud. I sorted a system that was shutting down by cleaning off a layer of dust that looked like felt it was so badly blocked. On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 14:58 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 05 January 2008 01:48:45 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > > Shibu Basheer escribió: > > > HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, > > > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, > > > > Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will > > find a nice and useless burnt CPU. > > I had shutdown problem and it was too hot CPU. System was unable to run > longer > than to the login screen, and than it will shut down. Though, under the > different conditions it will probably run longer until some CPU intensive > operation will be started and than shut down anyway. > > Shibu should be able to go to the BIOS and check temperature. > Boot in a normal way (no safe settings) wait or do some CPU intensive > operation and straight after spontaneous shutdown go direct in BIOS menu with > temperature monitor and see what temperature is. > > Temperature close to upper limit (1 or 2 C) would mean that hadware problem > can't be ruled out. > > -- > Regards, > Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick Shanahan schreef: > Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now to > make the previous statement. And the post was *not* about you in > particular, but feel guilty if you must. ??? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.24-rc6-2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 11.0 (x86_64) Alpha0 KDE: 3.5.8 "release 28" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHgP56X5/X5X6LpDgRAijEAJ49pVlBtNhquaEyeEQRcNsyc50d8QCeLyGy e7gpJ+rOqcnZ1dxSBmWu0vU= =3v/Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-06-08 10:43]: > > You're one of the worst off-topic posters around, so I don't think you should > speak too loudly > > In any case, it was Saturday. Some days you have to let loose Yes, you must be still affected by Saturday night activities now to make the previous statement. And the post was *not* about you in particular, but feel guilty if you must. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHgPjHClSjbQz1U5oRAqa2AJ9Aal8Kz9Afi60Q841mV6Jt7JBDwgCeI32f m8/3lXu8MailEppK2IXFQPw= =c8W+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Sunday 06 January 2008 16:15:02 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Billie Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-06-08 09:56]: > > Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > > > Oh..I see.. I will have to change my email message quotes, not due the > > > highly dubious and questionable article you linked, but because it > > > created yet another useless, off-topic discussion... **sigh** > > > > I wouldn't worry to much about it. It seems that most posts on this list > > tend to run off-topic after the first couple posts. > > Yes, Chris is *sadly* missed here. This thread would have been > *terminated* and those ignoring the termination would have found > themselves unable to post. You're one of the worst off-topic posters around, so I don't think you should speak too loudly In any case, it was Saturday. Some days you have to let loose -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Billie Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-06-08 09:56]: > Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > > > > Oh..I see.. I will have to change my email message quotes, not due the > > highly dubious and questionable article you linked, but because it > > created yet another useless, off-topic discussion... **sigh** > > > I wouldn't worry to much about it. It seems that most posts on this list > tend to run off-topic after the first couple posts. Yes, Chris is *sadly* missed here. This thread would have been *terminated* and those ignoring the termination would have found themselves unable to post. Shame After all, the OT list *was* created especially for those finding that type of coversation necessary. - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHgPB2ClSjbQz1U5oRAu0JAJ0cyusLiqc9nxyq0hcpYxFj+PRUXwCeOfrS ac2I5vxpDZuzSoTcZyoCtvc= =ytJm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > Philippe Landau escribió: > > >>> "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - >>> Albert Einstein >>> >> His plagiarism interfered just as much. >> http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html >> > > Oh..I see.. I will have to change my email message quotes, not due the > highly dubious and questionable article you linked, but because it > created yet another useless, off-topic discussion... **sigh** I wouldn't worry to much about it. It seems that most posts on this list tend to run off-topic after the first couple posts. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Philippe Landau escribió: >> "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - >> Albert Einstein > His plagiarism interfered just as much. > http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html Oh..I see.. I will have to change my email message quotes, not due the highly dubious and questionable article you linked, but because it created yet another useless, off-topic discussion... **sigh**. -- "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - Albert Einstein Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Philippe Landau wrote: Cristian Rodríguez wrote: Shibu Basheer escribió: HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will find a nice and useless burnt CPU. Nice and useless ? :-) "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - Albert Einstein > His plagiarism interfered just as much. http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html Einstein never claimed to be doing anything original. All he did was assume that ALL of the experimental data was, in fact, correct, even though it appeared to be contradictory. He then asked himself, if all of this data is correct, then what is the explanation for it all? What Einstein did is was to take the physics community and reposition the viewpoint to the one place where ALL of the data made sense simultaneously. Einstein never claimed to be all that great. Einstein himself said the following: "If I have seen farther, it is only because I am standing on the shoulders of giants." He readily acknowledged the work of Maxwell, Planck, Rutherford, and others, as being ESSENTIAL to the understanding of his theory. And by the way, no, I'm not Jewish. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 14:58 -0600, Rajko M. wrote: > On Saturday 05 January 2008 01:48:45 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > > Shibu Basheer escribió: > > > HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, > > > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, > > > > Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will > > find a nice and useless burnt CPU. > > I had shutdown problem and it was too hot CPU. System was unable to run > longer > than to the login screen, and than it will shut down. Though, under the > different conditions it will probably run longer until some CPU intensive > operation will be started and than shut down anyway. > > Shibu should be able to go to the BIOS and check temperature. > Boot in a normal way (no safe settings) wait or do some CPU intensive > operation and straight after spontaneous shutdown go direct in BIOS menu with > temperature monitor and see what temperature is. > > Temperature close to upper limit (1 or 2 C) would mean that hadware problem > can't be ruled out. > BTW, not only a cpu is power-hungry, How about the vga-chip? If that draws too much amps, perhaps the psu can not cope any further, and gives a spike hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Saturday 05 January 2008 03:15:54 pm Felix Miata wrote: > > Shibu should be able to go to the BIOS and check temperature. > > Boot in a normal way (no safe settings) wait or do some CPU intensive > > operation and straight after spontaneous shutdown go direct in BIOS menu > > with temperature monitor and see what temperature is. > > > > Temperature close to upper limit (1 or 2 C) would mean that hadware > > problem can't be ruled out. > > I'm of the opinion that CPU temperature sensors vary widely in their > accuracy. IOW, some will report too hot when in fact temp is well within > tolerance, while on the other extreme, they can read so low that the CPU > can be damaged from excess heat without warning. I do agree on this, that is the reason to tell that hardware problem should not be ruled out if temperature is close to the limit. It should be investigated thoroughly, but for the further ideas there is need some numbers, CPU type, MB type, computer vendor, any work done on computer, dust level on fans and heatsinks, etc. > This sounds like a possible case of the former, where the max tolerance > setting in the BIOS needs to be higher to properly reflect actual CPU > operation. The result if this is true is that the OS sensor software sees > the limit hit prematurely, and shuts the system down needlessly. This is > easily fixed by upping the BIOS limit by 5C or 10C. This can be done, but one should make sure it is proper solution, or have spare CPU and try and see ;-) -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On 2008/01/05 15:58 (GMT-0500) Rajko M. apparently typed: > On Saturday 05 January 2008 01:48:45 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: >> Shibu Basheer escribió: >> > I've ruled both the problem, >> > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, >> Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will >> find a nice and useless burnt CPU. > I had shutdown problem and it was too hot CPU. System was unable to run > longer > than to the login screen, and than it will shut down. Though, under the > different conditions it will probably run longer until some CPU intensive > operation will be started and than shut down anyway. > Shibu should be able to go to the BIOS and check temperature. > Boot in a normal way (no safe settings) wait or do some CPU intensive > operation and straight after spontaneous shutdown go direct in BIOS menu with > temperature monitor and see what temperature is. > Temperature close to upper limit (1 or 2 C) would mean that hadware problem > can't be ruled out. I'm of the opinion that CPU temperature sensors vary widely in their accuracy. IOW, some will report too hot when in fact temp is well within tolerance, while on the other extreme, they can read so low that the CPU can be damaged from excess heat without warning. This sounds like a possible case of the former, where the max tolerance setting in the BIOS needs to be higher to properly reflect actual CPU operation. The result if this is true is that the OS sensor software sees the limit hit prematurely, and shuts the system down needlessly. This is easily fixed by upping the BIOS limit by 5C or 10C. -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Saturday 05 January 2008 06:50, Shibu Basheer wrote: > Hi, > > I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts > down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue > the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, > just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. Is this an orderly shutdown where the system switches run-levels and then powers of, or is it abrupt? Secondly, can you ascertain a pattern to when it shuts down, or is it apparently random? I had a system (actually, I still have an use it) that one day began exhibiting this sort of behavior. Specifically, it would behave as if the reset button had been pressed. It really bugged and perplexed me until one day I was connecting something (either USB or audio) to a front-panel connector and the system reset. This was the clue I needed. It turned out that there was an intermittent short in a USB connector on the front panel between its power line and ground. When this short occurred, the system would reset. I "solved" this problem through the simple expedient of disconnecting that front-panel USB port. > ... > > Thank you. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On 2008/01/06 01:17 (GMT+0530) Shibu Basheer apparently typed: > Thanks for all your suggestions. I really do not think this is a CPU > over hearting issue. This is what I found : > After much testing with various combinations, I have pinned down the > problem to issue happening only when bootup into init 5. i.e. even > if I boot in safe mode with init 5 with acpi=off this issue persists. > However if I boot into init 3, and then I start kde with startx after > logging in to text console, the system is stable. With standard Grub stanza instead of failsafe? > Any ideas? You did do updates as soon as you finished the install, right? If you have a vga= (framebuffer) parameter on default cmdline, try booting with it removed. If you don't, try adding one (e.g. vga=788). Maybe adding nolapic to default cmdline might help. Try appending acpi=off on default cmdline. If this isn't exactly what you described above, append 3 on default cmdline, then use startx. -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Saturday 05 January 2008 01:48:45 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > Shibu Basheer escribió: > > HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, > > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, > > Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will > find a nice and useless burnt CPU. I had shutdown problem and it was too hot CPU. System was unable to run longer than to the login screen, and than it will shut down. Though, under the different conditions it will probably run longer until some CPU intensive operation will be started and than shut down anyway. Shibu should be able to go to the BIOS and check temperature. Boot in a normal way (no safe settings) wait or do some CPU intensive operation and straight after spontaneous shutdown go direct in BIOS menu with temperature monitor and see what temperature is. Temperature close to upper limit (1 or 2 C) would mean that hadware problem can't be ruled out. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2008-01-06 at 01:47 +0530, Shibu Basheer wrote: Thanks for all your suggestions. I really do not think this is a CPU over hearting issue. This is what I found : Before ruling that out completely, install something to read the cpu temperature, like gkrellm. After much testing with various combinations, I have pinned down the problem to issue happening only when bootup into init 5. i.e. even if I boot in safe mode with init 5 with acpi=off this issue persists. However if I boot into init 3, and then I start kde with startx after logging in to text console, the system is stable. Any ideas? Power management thinking you pressed the power button. Perhaps you can see that in the logs. Some one was having a similar issue in the Spanish list last October (Thread: portatil loco) - I finally found it. The solution we found was to edit /etc/powersave/events, and change the line: EVENT_BUTTON_SLEEP="suspend_to_disk" to "ignore". My very wild but educated guess here is you change the line: EVENT_BUTTON_POWER="wm_shutdown" to "ignore". Try it and see if it works. You may need to reboot, but try "rcpowersaved restart" first as root in a console, then login. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHf+3GtTMYHG2NR9URAnSHAJ0YQm+zgUSVn8YyZ4R2Oif83vyrcgCfduwJ D8glMjVX0DIlBfG5YJgkGdM= =GnA3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Shibu Basheer wrote: >>> HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, >>> because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, >> Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will >> find a nice and useless burnt CPU. > Thanks for all your suggestions. I really do not think this is a CPU > over hearting issue. This is what I found : > > After much testing with various combinations, I have pinned down the > problem to issue happening only when bootup into init 5. i.e. even > if I boot in safe mode with init 5 with acpi=off this issue persists. > > However if I boot into init 3, and then I start kde with startx after > logging in to text console, the system is stable. Great. > Any ideas? Wait and test some more :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Saturday 05 January 2008 21:02:53 Philippe Landau wrote: > His plagiarism interfered just as much. > http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html Rule number 1 on cranks and crackpots: a paper that only quotes secondary sources and encyclopaedias is not written by a competent person Anders -- Madness takes its toll -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-01-05 at 16:48 -0300, Cristian Rodríguez wrote: Shibu Basheer escribió: HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will find a nice and useless burnt CPU. But perhaps he will not be able to check the cpu temperature if in normal mode the machine shuts down, and in safe mode it doesn't read temperatures. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHf+YhtTMYHG2NR9URAgBmAKCMAW/vauSZw/P2t4dtx5erWalAnwCdH8Vd W5EK5CeVDf9FfpjAH1mO0K8= =cgOf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Jan 6, 2008 1:18 AM, Cristian Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shibu Basheer escribió: > > > HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, > > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, > > Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will > find a nice and useless burnt CPU. Hi Guys, Thanks for all your suggestions. I really do not think this is a CPU over hearting issue. This is what I found : After much testing with various combinations, I have pinned down the problem to issue happening only when bootup into init 5. i.e. even if I boot in safe mode with init 5 with acpi=off this issue persists. However if I boot into init 3, and then I start kde with startx after logging in to text console, the system is stable. Any ideas? Thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Cristian Rodríguez wrote: > Shibu Basheer escribió: >> HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, >> because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, > Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will > find a nice and useless burnt CPU. Nice and useless ? :-) > "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - > Albert Einstein His plagiarism interfered just as much. http://nexusmagazine.com/articles/einstein.html Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Shibu Basheer escribió: > HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, Your box 's CPU is overheating, check that instead or later you will find a nice and useless burnt CPU. -- "The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." - Albert Einstein Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On 2008/01/05 21:11 (GMT+0530) Shibu Basheer apparently typed: > On Jan 5, 2008 9:09 PM, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 2008/01/05 20:50 (GMT+0530) Shibu Basheer apparently typed: >> > I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts >> > down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue >> > the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, >> > just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. >> > Any ideas on how to isolate this problem? BTW, this has happened on >> > another computer, but AMD CPUs, only common component was the memory, >> > and a TV card. >> One possibility is an erroneous indication of CPU overheat. If you know how >> and your BIOS provides the means to do so, you can underclock your system by >> about 25% to see if the problem stops. If it does, you'll have to >> troubleshoot the cause of the erroneous indication. IIRC, it is caused by two >> daemons both trying to monitor CPU temp at the same time. >> Another possibility is TV card related. TV cards seem to demand a lot of >> power, maybe more than your power supply can reliably provide. You can >> temporarily remove the card to see if this is your problem. > HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, > because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, and I have > been running a long tv scan with tvtime. Failsafe mode uses acpi=off on cmdline, which would probably disable the ability to monitor CPU temperature or the ability to do anything as a result of the CPU temperature state. > So it looks like it is some kernel parameter, or something that is > enabled during normal bootup? -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On Jan 5, 2008 9:09 PM, Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008/01/05 20:50 (GMT+0530) Shibu Basheer apparently typed: > > > I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts > > down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue > > the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, > > just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. > > > Any ideas on how to isolate this problem? BTW, this has happened on > > another computer, but AMD CPUs, only common component was the memory, > > and a TV card. > > One possibility is an erroneous indication of CPU overheat. If you know how > and your BIOS provides the means to do so, you can underclock your system by > about 25% to see if the problem stops. If it does, you'll have to > troubleshoot the cause of the erroneous indication. IIRC, it is caused by two > daemons both trying to monitor CPU temp at the same time. > > Another possibility is TV card related. TV cards seem to demand a lot of > power, maybe more than your power supply can reliably provide. You can > temporarily remove the card to see if this is your problem. HI Felix, Thanks for you suggestions. I've ruled both the problem, because the system is running quite stable in safe mode, and I have been running a long tv scan with tvtime. So it looks like it is some kernel parameter, or something that is enabled during normal bootup? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
> > The Saturday 2008-01-05 at 20:20 +0530, Shibu Basheer wrote: > > > I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts > > down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue > > the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, > > just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. > > I think I remember something like this... but I can't remember the subject > of the thread to find it out. > I have now been running on safe mode for quite some time without this problem. Seems to be stable now. So could it be some drivers or power option or something that is causing this? I have everything I need in safe mode, but I dont want to choose safe mode each time I bootup. How do I troubleshoot what the shutdown problem in the normal mode? Thank you! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
On 2008/01/05 20:50 (GMT+0530) Shibu Basheer apparently typed: > I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts > down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue > the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, > just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. > Any ideas on how to isolate this problem? BTW, this has happened on > another computer, but AMD CPUs, only common component was the memory, > and a TV card. One possibility is an erroneous indication of CPU overheat. If you know how and your BIOS provides the means to do so, you can underclock your system by about 25% to see if the problem stops. If it does, you'll have to troubleshoot the cause of the erroneous indication. IIRC, it is caused by two daemons both trying to monitor CPU temp at the same time. Another possibility is TV card related. TV cards seem to demand a lot of power, maybe more than your power supply can reliably provide. You can temporarily remove the card to see if this is your problem. -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2008-01-05 at 20:20 +0530, Shibu Basheer wrote: I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. I think I remember something like this... but I can't remember the subject of the thread to find it out. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHf6LUtTMYHG2NR9URAn2ZAJ4918ipUOlorrjdzR9o0a9xbde/JgCfeSYR tCwTggiSNAL2IPhwydKkk3s= =8sfn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Hello, In the Message; Subject: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself Message-ID : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date & Time: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:20:27 +0530 [Shibu] == "Shibu Basheer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has written: Shibu> I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts Shibu> down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue Shibu> the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, Shibu> just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. Shibu> Any ideas on how to isolate this problem? BTW, this has happened on Shibu> another computer, but AMD CPUs, only common component was the memory, Shibu> and a TV card. IMHO, the memory is the cause. Just run memtest86, you can confirm this. Regards, --- 野宮 賢 mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp 「eメールや携帯電話に縛られた社会は、自分自身と向き合ったり、 空想にふけったりする自由を奪う。」 -- M. Crichton -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] OpenSuse 10.3 shutting down by itself
Hi, I have a new installation of Open Suse. I find it to randomly shuts down, just like someone accidently presses the power button, or issue the shutodown command. There are no prompts, messages or anything, just starts shutting down closing everything that I've been doing. Any ideas on how to isolate this problem? BTW, this has happened on another computer, but AMD CPUs, only common component was the memory, and a TV card. uname -a Linux linux-ph4g 2.6.22.5-31-default #1 SMP 2007/09/21 Thank you. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
