Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-21 Thread Stan Goodman
On Monday 21 January 2008 05:31:44 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
 Stan Goodman wrote:
  On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote:
  Stan Goodman wrote:
  I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic
  icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons
  for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other?
 
  Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
  tab.  Click on it, to choose another.
 
  Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about
  right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the
  properties of the underlying file, not of the icon.

 You click the icon and *voila*...there's the new icon selector.

 At least that's how it works in KDE.

KDE is what I have here.

At the risk of revealing a degree of obtuseness that even I did not know I 
possess, here is what I see when I click MB2 on a program icon and utter the 
incantation voila:

Open
Cut
Copy
Rename
Move to trash
Open with
Actions
Compress
Copy to
Move to
Properties

Examining the sub-options for each one of the above, I find no mention 
of icon. What am I missing?

N.B.: It works the same way with Eureka instead of voila.

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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-21 Thread peter nikolic
On Monday 21 January 2008, Stan Goodman wrote:
 On Monday 21 January 2008 05:31:44 Aaron Kulkis wrote:
  Stan Goodman wrote:
   On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote:
   Stan Goodman wrote:
   I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as
   generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more
   intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the
   other?
  
   Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
   tab.  Click on it, to choose another.
  
   Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about
   right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the
   properties of the underlying file, not of the icon.
 
  You click the icon and *voila*...there's the new icon selector.
 
  At least that's how it works in KDE.

 KDE is what I have here.

 At the risk of revealing a degree of obtuseness that even I did not know I
 possess, here is what I see when I click MB2 on a program icon and utter
 the incantation voila:

 Open
 Cut
 Copy
 Rename
 Move to trash
 Open with
 Actions
 Compress
 Copy to
 Move to
 Properties

 Examining the sub-options for each one of the above, I find no mention
 of icon. What am I missing?

 N.B.: It works the same way with Eureka instead of voila.

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Click  on the Properties selectionclick on the picture of the icon  in the 
properties box   make your choice  click on ok  bingo done .


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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-21 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Stan Goodman wrote:

On Monday 21 January 2008 05:31:44 Aaron Kulkis wrote:

Stan Goodman wrote:

On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote:

Stan Goodman wrote:

I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic
icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons
for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other?

Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
tab.  Click on it, to choose another.

Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about
right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the
properties of the underlying file, not of the icon.

You click the icon and *voila*...there's the new icon selector.

At least that's how it works in KDE.


KDE is what I have here.

At the risk of revealing a degree of obtuseness that even I did not know I 
possess, here is what I see when I click MB2 on a program icon and utter the 
incantation voila:


Open
Cut
Copy
Rename
Move to trash
Open with
Actions
Compress
Copy to
Move to
Properties

Examining the sub-options for each one of the above, I find no mention 
of icon. What am I missing?



You failed to complete the directions which I wrote previously.

Select Properties... when you see the icon in the properties
window, click on it, and you will be given the opportunity
to select a new icon image.



N.B.: It works the same way with Eureka instead of voila.



You gotta follow the directions.


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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-21 Thread James Knott

Stan Goodman wrote:



At the risk of revealing a degree of obtuseness that even I did not know I 
possess, here is what I see when I click MB2 on a program icon and utter the 
incantation voila:


Open
Cut
Copy
Rename
Move to trash
Open with
Actions
Compress
Copy to
Move to
Properties

Examining the sub-options for each one of the above, I find no mention 
of icon. What am I missing?


N.B.: It works the same way with Eureka instead of voila.



Such things are usually found under Properties, no matter what OS.


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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-20 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Stan Goodman wrote:

I have on the desktop some Java programs which are

 displayed as generic icons.

I have much better icons, or can make, much more

 intuitive icons for these. How must I go about
 replacing one for the other?


What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows

 or OS/2 icons for use in the Llinux desktop?

1. copy the .ico file to your Linux machine
2. right click - properties
3. click on the icon image to select a new one.

Here's a little trick -- always try right-clicking
on things... you'll be amazed at how easy it is to
find the controls to adjust a great many things on
the desktop (including adding an removing things),
the task bar, etc.




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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-20 Thread James Knott
Stan Goodman wrote:
 I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons.
 I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. 
 How
 must I go about replacing one for the other?
   
Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
tab.  Click on it, to choose another.
 What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the
 Llinux desktop?

   

IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons.  I don't know about others.  So,
you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got.

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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-20 Thread Stan Goodman
On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote:
 Stan Goodman wrote:
  I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic
  icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons
  for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other?

 Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
 tab.  Click on it, to choose another.

Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about right 
click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the properties of the 
underlying file, not of the icon. In the past few days I have been looking 
for ways to edit icons, but haven't found anything. Where are the properties 
of the icon?

  What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in
  the Llinux desktop?

 IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons.  I don't know about others.  So,
 you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got.

No problem. Thank you.

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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-20 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Sunday 20 January 2008 07:16, Stan Goodman wrote:
 ...

 Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about
 right click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the
 properties of the underlying file, not of the icon. In the past few
 days I have been looking for ways to edit icons, but haven't found
 anything. Where are the properties of the icon?

The answer lies in my original response. Desktop icons are represented 
by text files whose names end in .desktop in each users ~/Desktop 
directory. In these files is the path name to the icon file. You can 
use that path name to find or open the icon file in order to produce a 
variant using one of the various image editing programs.


   What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for
   use in the Llinux desktop?
 
  IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons.  I don't know about others. 
  So, you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what
  you've got.

Again, my response listed the acceptable types: PNG, JPEG, GIF, XPM, SVG 
and .ico. There may be even more, but these will work.


 Stan Goodman


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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-20 Thread Aaron Kulkis

James Knott wrote:

Stan Goodman wrote:

I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons.
I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How
must I go about replacing one for the other?
  

Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
tab.  Click on it, to choose another.

What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the
Llinux desktop?

  


IIRC, Linux uses PNG format for icons.  I don't know about others.  So,
you'll have to convert to PNG, if Linux doesn't support what you've got.



KDE can use any common image format.



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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-20 Thread Aaron Kulkis

Stan Goodman wrote:

On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:40:42 James Knott wrote:

Stan Goodman wrote:

I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic
icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons
for these. How must I go about replacing one for the other?

Open the properties for the icon.  You'll see the icon on the first
tab.  Click on it, to choose another.


Someone else today said to MB2 (left-handed people don't talk about right 
click) the existing icon to do this. But that leads to the properties of the 
underlying file, not of the icon.


You click the icon and *voila*...there's the new icon selector.

At least that's how it works in KDE.



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[opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Stan Goodman
I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as generic icons.
I have much better icons, or can make, much more intuitive icons for these. How
must I go about replacing one for the other?

What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use in the
Llinux desktop?

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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 19 January 2008 14:53, Stan Goodman wrote:
 I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as
 generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more
 intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the
 other?

You don't say whether you're using KDE or Gnome. I can give you the KDE 
answer (Gnome is probably similar, but I can readily confirm that 
supposition or give any real details).


The GUI way:

Right click on the desktop icon in question. From the pop-menu that 
appears, select Properties (the last item in the menu). In the 
resulting dialog there are several tabs. Initially you see the General 
tab, and on that tab is the currently assigned icon. This is a button. 
Click it and the system will present you with a window holding all the 
icons known to KDE at the moment (System icons). You can pick one of 
these or switch to Other icons. When you do that (select Other icons) 
the Browse... button will be enabled. Click that and you can use the 
resulting file system browsing dialog to locate the icon file you want 
to use or you can simply paste the absolute path name of that file into 
the Location field.


The text editor way:

Edit the desktop icon file (a text file) which by definition resides in 
~/Desktop. By default, the file name is the same as the icon title with 
the suffix .desktop appended, but if you change the display name of 
the icon, the file name stays the same. In that file you should see a 
line that starts with Icon=. The rest of that line is the absolute 
path name to the icon file. Replace it with the one you want to use. If 
there's no such line, add one.


 What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use
 in the Llinux desktop?

KDE can use PNG, JPEG, GIF, XPM, SVG and .ico files. Probably you can 
just use whatever you've got.

NOTE: The browser referred to in The GUI way above will only show PNG, 
XPM and SVG (including compressed SVG files with a .svgz suffix). But 
you can enter files of the other formats I mentioned, too. I rarely 
bother with the browsing bit, since I have scripts I use in the shell 
to copy the absolute path name of any file I choose to the clipboard.


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Re: [opensuse] Replacing an icon on the desktop

2008-01-19 Thread Stan Goodman
** Reply to message from Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 19 Jan
2008 15:56:39 -0800


 On Saturday 19 January 2008 14:53, Stan Goodman wrote:
  I have on the desktop some Java programs which are displayed as
  generic icons. I have much better icons, or can make, much more
  intuitive icons for these. How must I go about replacing one for the
  other?
 
 You don't say whether you're using KDE or Gnome. I can give you the KDE 
 answer (Gnome is probably similar, but I can readily confirm that 
 supposition or give any real details).
 
 
 The GUI way:
 
 Right click on the desktop icon in question. From the pop-menu that 
 appears, select Properties (the last item in the menu). In the 
 resulting dialog there are several tabs. Initially you see the General 
 tab, and on that tab is the currently assigned icon. This is a button. 
 Click it and the system will present you with a window holding all the 
 icons known to KDE at the moment (System icons). You can pick one of 
 these or switch to Other icons. When you do that (select Other icons) 
 the Browse... button will be enabled. Click that and you can use the 
 resulting file system browsing dialog to locate the icon file you want 
 to use or you can simply paste the absolute path name of that file into 
 the Location field.
 
 
 The text editor way:
 
 Edit the desktop icon file (a text file) which by definition resides in 
 ~/Desktop. By default, the file name is the same as the icon title with 
 the suffix .desktop appended, but if you change the display name of 
 the icon, the file name stays the same. In that file you should see a 
 line that starts with Icon=. The rest of that line is the absolute 
 path name to the icon file. Replace it with the one you want to use. If 
 there's no such line, add one.
 
 
  What, if anything, must I do to convert Windows or OS/2 icons for use
  in the Llinux desktop?
 
 KDE can use PNG, JPEG, GIF, XPM, SVG and .ico files. Probably you can 
 just use whatever you've got.
 
 NOTE: The browser referred to in The GUI way above will only show PNG, 
 XPM and SVG (including compressed SVG files with a .svgz suffix). But 
 you can enter files of the other formats I mentioned, too. I rarely 
 bother with the browsing bit, since I have scripts I use in the shell 
 to copy the absolute path name of any file I choose to the clipboard.
 
 
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 Randall Schulz

Many thanks. I should have added that I'm using KDE.

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