Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On 3/28/07, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey, On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:48, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, do you have any idea how to setup KDE to be able shutdown/restart instead of only logging off ? You can set this up in the KDE Control Center: KDE Menu - KDE Control Center - System Administration - Login Manager Activate Administrator Mode using button at bottom of window - Shutdown (tab) Allow Shutdown: local: Everybody (from pop-up menu) Randall Schulz I did this, but it doesn't helps ! -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
Alexey Eremenko wrote: On 3/28/07, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey, On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:48, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, do you have any idea how to setup KDE to be able shutdown/restart instead of only logging off ? You can set this up in the KDE Control Center: KDE Menu - KDE Control Center - System Administration - Login Manager Activate Administrator Mode using button at bottom of window - Shutdown (tab) Allow Shutdown: local: Everybody (from pop-up menu) Randall Schulz I did this, but it doesn't helps ! Are you running in Runlevel 5? Do you have a graphical login? (Which is the same thing.) YOu can only shutdown and restart when you have a graphical login not when yoiu run startx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:41, Alexey Eremenko wrote: On 3/28/07, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey, On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:48, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, do you have any idea how to setup KDE to be able shutdown/restart instead of only logging off ? You can set this up in the KDE Control Center: KDE Menu - KDE Control Center - System Administration - Login Manager Activate Administrator Mode using button at bottom of window - Shutdown (tab) Allow Shutdown: local: Everybody (from pop-up menu) Randall Schulz I did this, but it doesn't helps ! I haven't been following this thread too closely, and I apologize in advance if this is repeat information, but have you tried YaST - Security and Users - Local Security [ choose custom Settings ] next - next and there are options for the Shutdown Behavior of KDM. I have mine set on Automatic and can shut down from KDE as a regular user. -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
Are you running in Runlevel 5? Do you have a graphical login? Yes, I am. Autostarting from KDM. On 3/28/07, Don Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 28 March 2007 11:41, Alexey Eremenko wrote: On 3/28/07, Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexey, On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:48, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, do you have any idea how to setup KDE to be able shutdown/restart instead of only logging off ? You can set this up in the KDE Control Center: KDE Menu - KDE Control Center - System Administration - Login Manager Activate Administrator Mode using button at bottom of window - Shutdown (tab) Allow Shutdown: local: Everybody (from pop-up menu) Randall Schulz I did this, but it doesn't helps ! I haven't been following this thread too closely, and I apologize in advance if this is repeat information, but have you tried YaST - Security and Users - Local Security [ choose custom Settings ] next - next and there are options for the Shutdown Behavior of KDM. I have mine set on Automatic and can shut down from KDE as a regular user. I have set my PC to be Networked Workstation In Yast, not custom, but I will try custom too... -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
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Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-03-27 at 21:48 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, do you have any idea how to setup KDE to be able shutdown/restart instead of only logging off ? No, I don't use that feature. But I seem to remember seeing settings in kde control somewhere as to whom allow to close the system. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGCaAmtTMYHG2NR9URAi1aAJ9/c0a6gK5Bh6BK5u6HA5hoUVKwvQCdEUe5 hiAujcnFMwlnpuZiBFePrEc= =mgPs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
Alexey, On Tuesday 27 March 2007 12:48, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, do you have any idea how to setup KDE to be able shutdown/restart instead of only logging off ? You can set this up in the KDE Control Center: KDE Menu - KDE Control Center - System Administration - Login Manager Activate Administrator Mode using button at bottom of window - Shutdown (tab) Allow Shutdown: local: Everybody (from pop-up menu) Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On 3/24/07, Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-23 at 22:23 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: I have had some problems, so I created a new user, and deleted the original one. The problems I have now, due to this move: In KDE, when I do Start-Leave I can only end session, not shutdown, not restart In K3B, I cannot write anything, is it does NOT recognizes my new DVD-RW. Under root account everything works ! I don't know about that one. Perhaps you copied over some files from one user to the other? So, anybody knows how-to make my DVD-RW accessible from user again, without reinstalling openSUSE (like in Windows) ? BTW: Automount doesn't works too Now I have to enter root account and manually do: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Very unpleseable experience... Other priviledge problem, that I would like to solve: Why simple utilities, such as ifconfig and traceroute require root priviledges ? Or more correctly, they *do* run under normal user, but are not included on the normal user path by default. Why is that? I can think of two reasons. One, is the assumption that Mr Root is the only one with knowledge to use Certain Things. Also, he is the one responsible for the machine to the external world, and tools like traceroute could perhaps cause damage to others. Perhaps its designer thinks that if you know how to add the path, then are a responsible enough user ;-) Some tools, like ping, permit root do things that they don't allow normal users. Very funny, but I disagree with this stance, and will fill a bug. -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-03-24 at 12:44 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: So, anybody knows how-to make my DVD-RW accessible from user again, without reinstalling openSUSE (like in Windows) ? Not enough clues, sorry. Try a new user, different name, without deleting the other one. Maybe new user doesn't belong to the necesary groups. Read the logs. BTW: Automount doesn't works too Now I have to enter root account and manually do: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Add user to the options in the fstab line. I can think of two reasons. One, is the assumption that Mr Root is the only one with knowledge to use Certain Things. Also, he is the one responsible for the machine to the external world, and tools like traceroute could perhaps cause damage to others. Perhaps its designer thinks that if you know how to add the path, then are a responsible enough user ;-) Some tools, like ping, permit root do things that they don't allow normal users. Very funny, but I disagree with this stance, and will fill a bug. Ask first in the security list. It has been that way for generations... your bug will not be considered a bug by the stablishment :-p - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGBQTstTMYHG2NR9URAtszAKCUmgi0Ja9zhmP+63tife6X1qKh1wCff/Ll SCVOstSaShdzYkGNh52uyT0= =rkvT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On 2007-03-24 04:44, Alexey Eremenko wrote: snip In KDE, when I do Start-Leave I can only end session, not shutdown, not Don't know about this one. restart In K3B, I cannot write anything, is it does NOT recognizes my new DVD-RW. Add the user to group cdrom. snip Why simple utilities, such as ifconfig and traceroute require root priviledges ? Or more correctly, they *do* run under normal user, but are not included on the normal user path by default. Why is that? They are in /sbin/ which is not included in an ordinary user's path. Make symlinks to them in ~/bin/, which should be in any user's path. Some tools, like ping, permit root do things that they don't allow normal users. Very funny, but I disagree with this stance, and will fill a bug. I don't know what root can do with ping that no one else can do, but I can think of very valid reasons why an ordinary user should not be able to do a lot of the things that ifconfig can do :-) -- Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- HG Wells -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On Saturday 24 March 2007 13:50, Darryl Gregorash wrote: I don't know what root can do with ping that no one else can do Ping flooding, for one thing. See the -f and -l parameters -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
About lack of DVD privileges: Add the user to group cdrom. Added, restarted, didn't help... (BTE: should I restart, init 6, or just logout after priviledges change?) The Operating system sees my CD/DVD fully, that is, if I launch K3B from root account, it detects my DVD-RW. From user account K3B cannot detect the DVD-RW, but eject utility works even from normal user account ! About KDE shutdown: I think there is a setting in Yast-local security that handles this. I have tried to play with this settings, I setup my PC as Networked Workstation, and also : In KDE Control Center-KDE Components-General-Offer Shutdown options checkbox is enabled. Thanks so far so fast response... but any ideas? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
OK, I will provide some more info on my setup: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /etc/fstab /dev/hdd3/ext3 acl,user_xattr1 1 /dev/hdd1/C vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/hdd5/D ntfs ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/hdd6/E vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 /dev/hdd9/homeext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdd8swap swap defaults 0 0 proc /procproc defaults 0 0 sysfs/sys sysfs noauto0 0 debugfs /sys/kernel/debugdebugfsnoauto0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 /tmp/app/1/image /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 /tmp/app/2/image /tmp/app/2 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 /tmp/app/3/image /tmp/app/3 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 /tmp/app/4/image /tmp/app/4 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 /tmp/app/5/image /tmp/app/5 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 /tmp/app/6/image /tmp/app/6 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 /tmp/app/7/image /tmp/app/7 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0 usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw,devgid=1001,devmode=0660,busgid=1001,busmode=0770,listgid=1001,listmode=0660 0 0 According to Yast, suser user is part of the following groups: users vboxusers audio cdrom dialout video Is there something else that I missed? Thanks in advance -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-03-24 at 15:17 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: About lack of DVD privileges: Add the user to group cdrom. Added, restarted, didn't help... (BTE: should I restart, init 6, or just logout after priviledges change?) just logout. Thanks so far so fast response... but any ideas? Logs. Try diferent desktop. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGBUhytTMYHG2NR9URAvRoAJ9fpHTsd4bbdb1WeLYk6JLbOlMt+gCcCvVA Vm3IbfG2hGgoOXCd6a4/ykY= =pRE7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On 2007-03-24 07:03, Anders Johansson wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2007 13:50, Darryl Gregorash wrote: I don't know what root can do with ping that no one else can do Ping flooding, for one thing. See the -f and -l parameters ^ You bad boy!! :-) -- Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo. -- HG Wells -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-03-24 at 13:06 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote: Ping flooding, for one thing. See the -f and -l parameters ^ You bad boy!! :-) There are perfectly reasonable reasons to use it; for instance, I do for measuring network bandwidth - in my network, of course. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGBbTdtTMYHG2NR9URAt3JAJ4zSjTRBKSZNK5KOq9cwIsvoHoGKwCeOUr5 KYCInhiwBgTArv6uKw5eC3A= =MCHW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
hi Susers ! I installed a openSUSE 10.2 some while ago. I have had some problems, so I created a new user, and deleted the original one. The problems I have now, due to this move: In KDE, when I do Start-Leave I can only end session, not shutdown, not restart In K3B, I cannot write anything, is it does NOT recognizes my new DVD-RW. Under root account everything works ! Other priviledge problem, that I would like to solve: Why simple utilities, such as ifconfig and traceroute require root priviledges ? Or more correctly, they *do* run under normal user, but are not included on the normal user path by default. Why is that? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-03-23 at 22:23 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: I have had some problems, so I created a new user, and deleted the original one. The problems I have now, due to this move: In KDE, when I do Start-Leave I can only end session, not shutdown, not restart In K3B, I cannot write anything, is it does NOT recognizes my new DVD-RW. Under root account everything works ! I don't know about that one. Perhaps you copied over some files from one user to the other? Other priviledge problem, that I would like to solve: Why simple utilities, such as ifconfig and traceroute require root priviledges ? Or more correctly, they *do* run under normal user, but are not included on the normal user path by default. Why is that? I can think of two reasons. One, is the assumption that Mr Root is the only one with knowledge to use Certain Things. Also, he is the one responsible for the machine to the external world, and tools like traceroute could perhaps cause damage to others. Perhaps its designer thinks that if you know how to add the path, then are a responsible enough user ;-) Some tools, like ping, permit root do things that they don't allow normal users. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFGBF5ntTMYHG2NR9URAhHiAJ40MPP8b4S3Cbt5G8xptFGaxvaK6ACeNgP0 FauWuLt4v3vgGUP2D7Q7wRw= =KtwS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] User permission problems - plz help!
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 22:23 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote: Other priviledge problem, that I would like to solve: Why simple utilities, such as ifconfig and traceroute require root priviledges ? I think you just don't have PATH to the commands. Try full path like: /usr/sbin/traceroute 4.2.2.2 If it works, then check echo $PATH. Toshi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
