Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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* Bob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-11-08 21:52]:
> On Friday 11 January 2008 04:49:09 am Philipp Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
> > happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
> > destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.
> 
> Not true. Anytime you do an install of a package it just knows. If you do a 
> search it will ask you which one you want.


No, smart will hickup occasionally and requires attention.  But it
does not happen often and usually relates to an incorrect package.  I
have 25 or 30 packages (particular versions) locked to keep i586
packages from being installed on my x86_64 system.  Packages where
there are x86_64 packages which may have been presented late.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-11 Thread Bob S
On Friday 11 January 2008 04:49:09 am Philipp Thomas wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:
> >I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly.
> > From these directions
>
> Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
> happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
> destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.

Not true. Anytime you do an install of a package it just knows. If you do a 
search it will ask you which one you want.

Bob S
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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-11 Thread M9.
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Philipp Thomas schreef:
> * M9. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080111 10:57]:
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>> These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.
> 
> Yepp. I didn't mean to discourage people, just make them wary that there are
> issues they should be aware of.
> 
> Philipp
> 

So was i, you were not blamed.. ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-11 Thread Philipp Thomas
* M9. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20080111 10:57]:

> These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.

Yepp. I didn't mean to discourage people, just make them wary that there are
issues they should be aware of.

Philipp

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-11 Thread M9.
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Philipp Thomas schreef:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:
> 
>> I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. 
>> From 
>> these directions 
> 
> Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
> happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
> destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.
> 
> Philipp

Exactly that happened to me  a few times in the past, it totaly wrecked
my install, that's why i've gotten carefull with it.
But i must say, i don not know if this is still happening now.
These guys work hard to improve the app, so they deserve to get tested.
It is usefull, if one cannot uninstall a particular pkg, because of
endless lists of deps, smart just does the job...

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-11 Thread Philipp Thomas
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:53:14 +, Timothy Cahill wrote:

>I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
>these directions 

Just keep in mind that smart seems ignorant of architecture as it will
happily upgrade x86_64 packages with i586 ones and vice versa, i.e. not
destinguish between 32 and 64 bit packages.

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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-10 Thread Dave Plater
Timothy Cahill wrote:
> On January 9, 2008, Dave Plater wrote:
>   
>> Rajko M. wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tuesday 08 January 2008 02:33:39 pm Timothy Cahill wrote:
>>>   
 installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm
 package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I
 browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are
 there, but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information
 
>
>   
>> I used to have that problem when I had an rpm only directory for my
>> local repository (still wishing for a yast that saves rpms ) . It came
>> right when I used createrepo to index the repository. The descriptions
>> you see are contained in the rpm itself and createrepo places them in a
>> gz compressed xml file in the repository. This is what takes a lot of
>> time to download when a large repository refreshes.
>> 
>
> Following your suggestion, I'm considering copying the DVD to harddisk, then 
> running createrepo against the HD version. 
> Too bad the live DVD ships with this problem. Doubly unfortunate that the 
> SuSE 
> team's policy is to leave flawed/broken distributions as is. It seems that 
> this could be an easy thing to fix as a 10.3.01 release. While they were at 
> it they could fix the broken link in YAST2's add community repositories 
> application.
>
>   
>>  KPackage, kde's package manager reads the description straight from the
>> rpm. I don,t know what smart does, I've never got it to work properly.
>> Dave
>> 
>
> I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
> these directions 
> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/108589-howto-install-use-smart-opensuse-10-3-a.html
>
> I did:
> # zypper sa -r 
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/smart/openSUSE_10.3/smart.repo
> # zypper ref smart
> # zypper install smart
> #  smart channel --add 
> http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/opensuse-10.3.txt
>
> AFter this, I run smart from the KDE menu System --> configuration
>
> Initially, the repositories (called channels by SMART) must be updated, and 
> then I can download any new software or updates. The two most excellent 
> things about smart are 1) if a download times out, you can just Apply the 
> marked changes again, and smart only downloads the items that were not 
> successful the last time. because 2) smart keeps local copies of everything 
> it downloads. 
>
> Let me know if you'd like further assistance. 
>
>
>
>
>   
My problem with smart is, it complains about keys for quite a few
packages in my local repo and I have to press enter for each complaint.
I tried entering a few keyservers and downloading every pgp key I found
in the online repositories, after reading smart's online help, but still
no luck. It's the "keeping a copy after install feature I like", at the
moment I use yast to find program and dependents, download rpms and then
restart yast to install from local repo. I only update the main
repositories when I need to search for a newer version or something.
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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-10 Thread Timothy Cahill
On January 9, 2008, Dave Plater wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Tuesday 08 January 2008 02:33:39 pm Timothy Cahill wrote:
> >> installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm
> >> package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I
> >> browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are
> >> there, but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information

> I used to have that problem when I had an rpm only directory for my
> local repository (still wishing for a yast that saves rpms ) . It came
> right when I used createrepo to index the repository. The descriptions
> you see are contained in the rpm itself and createrepo places them in a
> gz compressed xml file in the repository. This is what takes a lot of
> time to download when a large repository refreshes.

Following your suggestion, I'm considering copying the DVD to harddisk, then 
running createrepo against the HD version. 
Too bad the live DVD ships with this problem. Doubly unfortunate that the SuSE 
team's policy is to leave flawed/broken distributions as is. It seems that 
this could be an easy thing to fix as a 10.3.01 release. While they were at 
it they could fix the broken link in YAST2's add community repositories 
application.

>  KPackage, kde's package manager reads the description straight from the
> rpm. I don,t know what smart does, I've never got it to work properly.
> Dave

I'm now using SMART as my software manager, and it is working perfectly. From 
these directions 
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/108589-howto-install-use-smart-opensuse-10-3-a.html

I did:
# zypper sa -r 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/smart/openSUSE_10.3/smart.repo
# zypper ref smart
# zypper install smart
#  smart channel --add 
http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/files/smart/opensuse-10.3.txt

AFter this, I run smart from the KDE menu System --> configuration

Initially, the repositories (called channels by SMART) must be updated, and 
then I can download any new software or updates. The two most excellent 
things about smart are 1) if a download times out, you can just Apply the 
marked changes again, and smart only downloads the items that were not 
successful the last time. because 2) smart keeps local copies of everything 
it downloads. 

Let me know if you'd like further assistance. 






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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-09 Thread Dave Plater
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Tuesday 08 January 2008 02:33:39 pm Timothy Cahill wrote:
>   
>> I've recently downgraded to the 32-bit version of OpenSuSE 10.3 that is
>> installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm
>> package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I
>> browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are there,
>> but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information except the
>> Package name.  I've tried to google this problem, but I've not found any
>> matching descriptions. Has anyone else experienced this?
>>
>>
>> --
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>> 
>
> Missing descriptions are for packages that are not installed. 
> Internet times have spoiled developers ie. files that are not 'downloaded' 
> don't have descriptions.
>
> I have to check here is it any different with DVD as installation source.  
>
>   
I used to have that problem when I had an rpm only directory for my
local repository (still wishing for a yast that saves rpms ) . It came
right when I used createrepo to index the repository. The descriptions
you see are contained in the rpm itself and createrepo places them in a
gz compressed xml file in the repository. This is what takes a lot of
time to download when a large repository refreshes.
 KPackage, kde's package manager reads the description straight from the
rpm. I don,t know what smart does, I've never got it to work properly.
Dave
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Re: [opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-08 Thread Rajko M.
On Tuesday 08 January 2008 02:33:39 pm Timothy Cahill wrote:
> I've recently downgraded to the 32-bit version of OpenSuSE 10.3 that is
> installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm
> package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I
> browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are there,
> but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information except the
> Package name.  I've tried to google this problem, but I've not found any
> matching descriptions. Has anyone else experienced this?
>
>
> --
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Missing descriptions are for packages that are not installed. 
Internet times have spoiled developers ie. files that are not 'downloaded' 
don't have descriptions.

I have to check here is it any different with DVD as installation source.  

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[opensuse] YAST2 not displaying package descriptions

2008-01-08 Thread Timothy Cahill
I've recently downgraded to the 32-bit version of OpenSuSE 10.3 that is 
installed from the live version. One annoyance is that I cannot see rpm 
package descriptions for most of the rpms that came with the DVD. When I 
browse the DVD using Konqueror, I can see that the descriptions are there, 
but in YAST2 the description tab is blank of all information except the 
Package name.  I've tried to google this problem, but I've not found any 
matching descriptions. Has anyone else experienced this?


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