[opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread dwain
i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.

as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
loaded on my machine.

is it that complicated?

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread Doug McGarrett
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:05, dwain wrote:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>
> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
> loaded on my machine.
>
> is it that complicated?
>
> dwain
>
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> Alford Design Group
> P.O. Box 145
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>
> telephone:  205-487-2570
> cell:  205.495.5619
>
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>

I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
book on the RPM system.  "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey.  Unfortunately,
I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.

good luck with the project.  --doug
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread dwain
Doug McGarrett wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 18:05, dwain wrote:
>   
>> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
>> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
>> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>>
>> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
>> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
>> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
>> loaded on my machine.
>>
>> is it that complicated?
>>
>> dwain
>>
>> --
>> Dwain Alford
>> Alford Design Group
>> P.O. Box 145
>> Winfield, Alabama  35594
>>
>> telephone:  205-487-2570
>> cell:  205.495.5619
>>
>> email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> web:http://www.alforddesigngroup.com
>>
>> 
>
> I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
> book on the RPM system.  "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey.  Unfortunately,
> I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.
>
> good luck with the project.  --doug
>   
thanks for the info ... and the luck, i'll need it.

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread Richard Bos
Op Tuesday 20 March 2007 23:05:55 schreef dwain:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.

have a look at http://software.opensuse.org/ -> repository 0r web interface

> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think it's
> loaded on my machine.
>
> is it that complicated?

Yes and no.  You have to learn, that's for sure.  See above link for more 
information.


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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-20-07 18:12]:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
> 
> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think
> it's loaded on my machine.

You might want to touch hands with Pascal Bleser 
as he is currently providing Inkscape rpms for openSUSE.

Name: inkscape Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 0.45  Vendor: (none)
Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Mon 05 Feb 2007 
10:47:36 AM EST
Install Date: Tue 06 Feb 2007 07:56:01 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
Group   : Productivity/Graphics/Vector Editors   Source RPM: 
inkscape-0.45-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
Size: 143862159License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 05 Feb 2007 10:48:36 AM EST, Key ID af734c5a58857177
Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.inkscape.org
Summary : Inkscape Vector Illustration Program


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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread Coach-X
>>>
>> I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
>> book on the RPM system. "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey. Unfortunately,
>> I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.
>>
>> good luck with the project. --doug
>>
> thanks for the info ... and the luck, i'll need it.
> 
> dwain

http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread BandiPat
On Tuesday 20 March 2007, dwain wrote:
> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would
> be interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>
> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk
> me through the process?  i know the software is available, and i
> think it's loaded on my machine.
>
> is it that complicated?
>
> dwain
>
> --

Dwain,
Check out the program "krpmbuilder".  I believe it shows up in 
Development in your menu.  It will be a great help in building a proper 
rpm with spec file and help you in better understanding what is going 
on with the process.

Grab a couple of spec files from other programs source to compare and 
get a feel for the process.  I think you'll find yourself up to your 
armpits in compiling very quickly.

regards,
Lee


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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-20 Thread dwain
BandiPat wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007, dwain wrote:
>   
>> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
>> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would
>> be interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>>
>> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
>> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk
>> me through the process?  i know the software is available, and i
>> think it's loaded on my machine.
>>
>> is it that complicated?
>>
>> dwain
>>
>> --
>> 
>
> Dwain,
> Check out the program "krpmbuilder".  I believe it shows up in 
> Development in your menu.  It will be a great help in building a proper 
> rpm with spec file and help you in better understanding what is going 
> on with the process.
>
> Grab a couple of spec files from other programs source to compare and 
> get a feel for the process.  I think you'll find yourself up to your 
> armpits in compiling very quickly.
>
> regards,
> Lee
>
>
>   
i just installed it and with the "maximum rpm" link i should be pulling
my hair out very soon. ;-)

i have also emailed guru pascal, so i'm on my way!  thanks for the
support.  it is much appreciated.

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-01-70 11:34]:
> * dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-20-07 18:12]:
> > i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> > update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> > interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
> > 
> > as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> > learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> > through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think
> > it's loaded on my machine.
> 
> You might want to touch hands with Pascal Bleser 
> as he is currently providing Inkscape rpms for openSUSE.
> 
> Name: inkscape Relocations: (not relocatable)
> Version : 0.45  Vendor: (none)
> Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Mon 05 Feb 2007 
> 10:47:36 AM EST
> Install Date: Tue 06 Feb 2007 07:56:01 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
> Group   : Productivity/Graphics/Vector Editors   Source RPM: 
> inkscape-0.45-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
> Size: 143862159License: GPL
> Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 05 Feb 2007 10:48:36 AM EST, Key ID 
> af734c5a58857177
> Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://www.inkscape.org
> Summary : Inkscape Vector Illustration Program


and an update was issued this morning:
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread dwain
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-01-70 11:34]:
>> * dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-20-07 18:12]:
>>> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
>>> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
>>> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
>>>
>>> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
>>> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
>>> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think
>>> it's loaded on my machine.
>> You might want to touch hands with Pascal Bleser 
>> as he is currently providing Inkscape rpms for openSUSE.
>>
>> Name: inkscape Relocations: (not relocatable)
>> Version : 0.45  Vendor: (none)
>> Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Mon 05 Feb 2007 
>> 10:47:36 AM EST
>> Install Date: Tue 06 Feb 2007 07:56:01 PM EST  Build Host: hera.lan
>> Group   : Productivity/Graphics/Vector Editors   Source RPM: 
>> inkscape-0.45-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm
>> Size: 143862159License: GPL
>> Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 05 Feb 2007 10:48:36 AM EST, Key ID 
>> af734c5a58857177
>> Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> URL : http://www.inkscape.org
>> Summary : Inkscape Vector Illustration Program
> 
> 
> and an update was issued this morning:
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   
thanks, but i'm not on a 64 bit system.  my hardware is so old (how old
is it?) i'm running, if you can call this running, a p3 450mhz processor
and 768mb ram.  sure it's slow, but i don't have anywhere to go any time
soon. ;^)

dwain
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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-21-07 12:31]:
 [...]
> thanks, but i'm not on a 64 bit system.  my hardware is so old (how old
> is it?) i'm running, if you can call this running, a p3 450mhz processor
> and 768mb ram.  sure it's slow, but i don't have anywhere to go any time
> soon. ;^)

It's available in i386 also from guru:

12:52 wahoo:~ > smart query --show-channels inkscape 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [inst-source, opensuse]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [inst-source, opensuse]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru, rpm-sys]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]



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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread David Bolt
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Coach-X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:-


>>> I don't remember it being all that complicated, but there's a whole
>>> book on the RPM system. "Maximum RPM" by Ed Bailey. Unfortunately,
>>> I don't know where my copy is, at the moment.
>>>
>>> good luck with the project. --doug
>>>
>> thanks for the info ... and the luck, i'll need it.
>>
>> dwain
>
>http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/

A more up-to-date version is here:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/index.html>


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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 09:18:25 am dwain wrote:
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > * Patrick Shanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-01-70 11:34]:
> >> * dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-20-07 18:12]:
> >>> i find that when new software comes out, it takes a while to get the
> >>> update quickly.  i have been asked by the inkscape folks if i would be
> >>> interested in packaging rpms for opensuse.
> >>>
> >>> as new to this os as i am and not being a programmer, not afraid to
> >>> learn though, would someone be interested, having the time, to walk me
> >>> through the process?  i know the software is available, and i think
> >>> it's loaded on my machine.
> >>
> >> You might want to touch hands with Pascal Bleser  >> be> as he is currently providing Inkscape rpms for openSUSE.
> >>
> >> Name: inkscape Relocations: (not
> >> relocatable) Version : 0.45  Vendor:
> >> (none)
> >> Release : 1.guru.suse101Build Date: Mon 05 Feb 2007
> >> 10:47:36 AM EST Install Date: Tue 06 Feb 2007 07:56:01 PM EST  Build
> >> Host: hera.lan Group   : Productivity/Graphics/Vector Editors  
> >> Source RPM: inkscape-0.45-1.guru.suse101.src.rpm Size: 143862159
> >>License: GPL
> >> Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Mon 05 Feb 2007 10:48:36 AM EST, Key ID
> >> af734c5a58857177 Packager: Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> URL : http://www.inkscape.org
> >> Summary : Inkscape Vector Illustration Program
> >
> > and an update was issued this morning:
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> thanks, but i'm not on a 64 bit system.  my hardware is so old (how old
> is it?

I'm curious how many people on this list actually will get that reference. :)

> ) i'm running, if you can call this running, a p3 450mhz processor 
> and 768mb ram.  sure it's slow, but i don't have anywhere to go any time
> soon. ;^)
>
> dwain

Look into Checkinstall. Though something like Inkscape will be updated for 
both 64-bit system and 32-bit systems, you can always roll your own using 
checkinstall. 

http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/

Since I'm on a 32-bit system, there are 32-bit versions.

I've used it quite successfully, and I'm a pointy-haired manager. 

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread dwain
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-21-07 12:31]:
>  [...]
>   
>> thanks, but i'm not on a 64 bit system.  my hardware is so old (how old
>> is it?) i'm running, if you can call this running, a p3 450mhz processor
>> and 768mb ram.  sure it's slow, but i don't have anywhere to go any time
>> soon. ;^)
>> 
>
> It's available in i386 also from guru:
>
> 12:52 wahoo:~ > smart query --show-channels inkscape 
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [inst-source, opensuse]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [inst-source, opensuse]
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru, rpm-sys]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]
>
>
>
>   
i just received an auto update for inkscape and there are some
dependency issues with it and it won't install. this is from
ftp.suse.com. is there another install source i can use?

dwain

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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [03-21-07 21:14]:
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]
>
> i just received an auto update for inkscape and there are some
> dependency issues with it and it won't install. this is from
> ftp.suse.com. is there another install source i can use?
> 

> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [guru]
^

you can get the site addr and mirror addrs from en.opensuse.org




ps:  is *all* this really necessary???

> dwain
> 
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> 
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> 
> "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
> for his inner impulse must find suitable expression."
> 
>  Wassily Kandinsky, "Concerning The Spiritual In Art"
> 



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Re: [opensuse] making rpms

2007-03-21 Thread Kai Ponte
On Wednesday 21 March 2007 07:19:00 pm Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>
> ps:  is *all* this really necessary???
>
> > dwain
> >
> > --
> > Dwain Alford

My guess is that his address delimiter - two dashes and a space - is not set 
right.

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