Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:32, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/21/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:09, Mark Goldstein wrote: Well, of course there was my provider ... Since your results differ from most with the same kernel, have you tested to see if you are behind a transparent proxy at your provider? No I did not. Is there any tool that can assist in that? Of course I can use tracerout, but how would I know whether any of intermediate hosts was proxy? -- Mark Goldstein This page has some info that might help: http://tracetcp.sourceforge.net/usage_proxy.html but it might require you install that package. Also the tcptraceroute package can help: (slaged this off a google search) Find it at: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ tcptraceroute servername will do a TCP traceroute on port 80. tcptraceroute servername 25 will do a TCP traceroute on port 25 to tell you what hops your TCP packets take to get to the host. Because the ICMP route, and the TCP route might be a bit different because of router configs. tcptraceroute www.slashdot.org 1 * * * 2 slashdot.org (66.35.250.150) [open] 0.983 ms 0.838 ms 0.347 ms Hmmm, only two hops from me to slashdot? not right, I should at least see the IP's to get to my upstream provider Proxy server before I even get to my gateway. -- _ John Andersen pgp6qp1yD4oyf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/21/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This page has some info that might help: http://tracetcp.sourceforge.net/usage_proxy.html but it might require you install that package. Also the tcptraceroute package can help: (slaged this off a google search) Find it at: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ tcptraceroute servername will do a TCP traceroute on port 80. tcptraceroute servername 25 will do a TCP traceroute on port 25 to tell you what hops your TCP packets take to get to the host. Because the ICMP route, and the TCP route might be a bit different because of router configs. tcptraceroute www.slashdot.org 1 * * * 2 slashdot.org (66.35.250.150) [open] 0.983 ms 0.838 ms 0.347 ms Hmmm, only two hops from me to slashdot? not right, I should at least see the IP's to get to my upstream provider Proxy server before I even get to my gateway. John, Thank you for information. You are absolutely right. tcptraceroute ends in 2 hops, while traceroute makes 20+! So my yes, my provider uses transparent proxy. I'll add this information to bugzilla -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-21 04:44, John Andersen wrote: snip Also the tcptraceroute package can help: (slaged this off a google search) Find it at: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ Also available on Pascal Bleser's repository, ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/version/ -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Darryl, On Thursday 21 December 2006 13:51, Darryl Gregorash wrote: ... Find it at: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ The latest source (1.5beta7) builds on 10.2 and 10.0, if you install all the required development packages. Also available on Pascal Bleser's repository, ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/version/ There appears to be a tcptraceroute package in the Guru's RPM repository for 10.0 but not for 10.2. At least not at this moment. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-21 16:31, Randall R Schulz wrote: There appears to be a tcptraceroute package in the Guru's RPM repository for 10.0 but not for 10.2. At least not at this moment. I'm still running in the Dark Ages, I only checked 9.3 :-) All the builds are from August, and there is only one src.rpm, supposedly for 10.0. Anyone in dire need of an rpm package for 10.2 could try that: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Network/tcptraceroute/src/tcptraceroute-1.5beta7-1.guru.suse100.src.rpm -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2006-12-21 16:31, Randall R Schulz wrote: There appears to be a tcptraceroute package in the Guru's RPM repository for 10.0 but not for 10.2. At least not at this moment. I'm still running in the Dark Ages, I only checked 9.3 :-) All the builds are from August, and there is only one src.rpm, supposedly for 10.0. Anyone in dire need of an rpm package for 10.2 The src.rpm is rebuildable on all SUSE versions. It's just that I cannot suppress that .suse???. in the src.rpm while having it in the binary RPMs ;) could try that: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Network/tcptraceroute/src/tcptraceroute-1.5beta7-1.guru.suse100.src.rpm 10.2 builds will be available in my repository in a few hours, after the next sync with the server + mirrors. For the impatient, it rebuilds just fine on 10.2: rpmbuild --rebuild --target=i586 \ tcptraceroute-1.5beta7-1.guru.suse100.src.rpm cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFiyqKr3NMWliFcXcRAlWMAJ9OCkMADgGhUR5AW1PwMOKFQGPzYACfeDHG 7flxmVqdORRazFev1B1nkrg= =ZlaW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/20/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark: did you post your particulars (processor, nics, etc) to the bugzilla report as a point of reference to the developers? Will do -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/20/06, Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I ask if you have these two boxes behind a proxy? I tracked it as far down as the 2.6.17+ kernels could not reach that site, except when being proxied. I discussed with different other people yesterday evening.. none of them, having a 2.6.17+ kernel (sorry, nobody had a 2.6.19) was able to access it... except in corp where a proxy was in place... like I have it here for myself. Dominique, I'm a bit messed up now. Initially both my boxes were behind firewall. In the office it was proxy, at home it was firewall/NAT. Right now I reconfigured my home network so that IBM Aptiva with openSuSE box is itself router/firewall. In the morning I tried marymount site from this box and it was OK. But now the site does not answer. It appears, it is unresponsive for everything (even FF from Windows XP), so I'm afraid we could create DoS (everybody on this thread trying to access it) :-( But the second site keh.com works fine even on direct connection. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Hartmut Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. Only guessing: you're accessing http through a proxy, right? Interesting idea. The 10.2 machine i386 at work that did work as well was accessing www.marymount.com through the squid proxy on our 9.3 server. It is definitely not an arch problem. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 01:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. FWIW I did make oldconfig with 2.6.19.1-default. Compiled and installed the new kernel. I can now get to Mary Mount but www.keh.com is still broken. Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:29, Nick Zentena wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 01:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. FWIW I did make oldconfig with 2.6.19.1-default. Compiled and installed the new kernel. I can now get to Mary Mount but www.keh.com is still broken. I can get to Mary Mount too, where I previously could not! Seems the site is fixed??? Comfirmed: www.keh.com is still broken. Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/20/06, Leendert Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:29, Nick Zentena wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 01:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. FWIW I did make oldconfig with 2.6.19.1-default. Compiled and installed the new kernel. I can now get to Mary Mount but www.keh.com is still broken. I can get to Mary Mount too, where I previously could not! Seems the site is fixed??? Comfirmed: www.keh.com is still broken. Cheers, Guys, please re-check. Somebody mistyped it as marymount.com. This one is working. It was marymount.edu that still fails (on ALL my boxes, including Win XP). -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Dominique Leuenberger 20-12-2006 13:41:11 Reply on 20-12-2006 13:40:19 I can get to Mary Mount too, where I previously could not! Seems the site is fixed??? Comfirmed: www.keh.com is still broken. That must be while it was offline for a few hours now. The admin probably did some stack upgrades on his machine, that was broken. If somebody knows the admin of keh.com, it would be nice to inform that one about this issue. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 06:44, Mark Goldstein wrote: Guys, please re-check. Somebody mistyped it as marymount.com. This one is working. It was marymount.edu that still fails (on ALL my boxes, including Win XP). Okay neither are working for me after upgrading the kernal. Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Leendert Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:29, Nick Zentena wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 01:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. FWIW I did make oldconfig with 2.6.19.1-default. Compiled and installed the new kernel. I can now get to Mary Mount but www.keh.com is still broken. I can get to Mary Mount too, where I previously could not! Seems the site is fixed??? Comfirmed: www.keh.com is still broken. Cheers, Guys, please re-check. Somebody mistyped it as marymount.com. This one is working. It was marymount.edu that still fails (on ALL my boxes, including Win XP). -- Mark Goldstein Arg! :( I'm sorry, I got that .com address from the mail right above. I'll send that person a mail to ask him to recheck. Sorry, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: Dominique Leuenberger 20-12-2006 13:41:11 Reply on 20-12-2006 13:40:19 I can get to Mary Mount too, where I previously could not! Seems the site is fixed??? Comfirmed: www.keh.com is still broken. That must be while it was offline for a few hours now. The admin probably did some stack upgrades on his machine, that was broken. If somebody knows the admin of keh.com, it would be nice to inform that one about this issue. The http://www.marymount.com/ address is accessible, the http://www.marymount.edu/ address (where this all is about) not. I mistakenly checked the .com address (cut paste from a different mail). Sorry, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:53:13PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. I am running 10.1 with a self-compiled Linux seahunt 2.6.18 kernel, and it raises the Marymount site just fine. If it's a 2.6.18 problem, it's related to something in the SUSE version of 2.6.18, because kernel.org's 2.6.18 works fine. Michael -- San Francisco, CA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Reply on 20-12-2006 15:18:44 On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:53:13PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. I am running 10.1 with a self-compiled Linux seahunt 2.6.18 kernel, and it raises the Marymount site just fine. If it's a 2.6.18 problem, it's related to something in the SUSE version of 2.6.18, because kernel.org's 2.6.18 works fine. Michael Michael, just to be sure, as there was some confusion: Are you trying www.marymount.edu ? THAT is the one in question. Or www.keh.com Please retest and repost. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 02:19:34PM +0100, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: I am running 10.1 with a self-compiled Linux seahunt 2.6.18 kernel, and it raises the Marymount site just fine. If it's a 2.6.18 problem, it's related to something in the SUSE version of 2.6.18, because kernel.org's 2.6.18 works fine. Yeah, I got snagged by the wrong address. www.marymount.com works, www.marymount.edu and www.keh.com don't. So just to be clear, 10.1 with kernel.org 2.6.18 does NOT work. Michael -- San Francisco, CA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Dominique Leuenberger wrote: just to be sure, as there was some confusion: Are you trying www.marymount.edu ? THAT is the one in question. Or www.keh.com Please retest and repost. Sorry to confuse the issue, it was an honest typo. I was typing it from memory at the end of a long day (that just became a bit longer). Anyway, thanks Leendert for catching my mistake before it really muddled the problem too bad. I tried here at home on 10.2 to start squid to see if the cache was the reason the 10.2 at work connected (or maybe because the cache is on a 9.3 server). Even running through Squid here at home, it doesn't work. So it isn't just a proxy. But, I found this interesting info from squid in the log. Dec 20 21:41:58 jmorris squid[12862]: WARNING: Closing client 192.168.10.1 connection due to lifetime timeout Dec 20 21:41:58 jmorris squid[12862]: http://www.marymount.edu/ Dec 20 21:41:58 jmorris squid[12862]: WARNING: Closing client 192.168.10.1 connection due to lifetime timeout Dec 20 21:41:58 jmorris squid[12862]: http://www.marymount.edu/ I am not sure what that means exactly, but it still doesn't work here, even with a proxy. So at work it must have been because the server is still running 9.3. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Reply on 20-12-2006 15:55:04 I am not sure what that means exactly, but it still doesn't work here, even with a proxy. So at work it must have been because the server is still running 9.3. Joe, if I understood you right, you installed squid on a 10.2 box? Then I'm not surprised that it's not working, as it does not matter with what program you try to reach the site (you can even try simple telnet on port 80). I assume that the tcp stack was slightly modified in kernel 2.6.17 versions... that's why this problem comes up... ANYBODY knows something about that server? What is it running? What OS? What Kernel? What apache? Special modules and FW? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006/12/20 05:15 (GMT-0800) Michael Nelson apparently typed: I am running 10.1 with a self-compiled Linux seahunt 2.6.18 kernel, and it raises the Marymount site just fine. If it's a 2.6.18 problem, it's related to something in the SUSE version of 2.6.18, because kernel.org's 2.6.18 works fine. Have you read the bug? Etch's and Fedora's 2.6.18 kernels also fail. OTOH, the vanilla 2.6.19 kernel worked for me yesterday, and still works today. -- Let your conversation be always full of grace. Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 08:57, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: ANYBODY knows something about that server? What is it running? What OS? What Kernel? What apache? Special modules and FW? I checked netcraft yesterday. One is running Apache the other some Microsoft product. Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:02, Felix Miata wrote: Have you read the bug? Etch's and Fedora's 2.6.18 kernels also fail. OTOH, the vanilla 2.6.19 kernel worked for me yesterday, and still works today. How did you configure it? I downloaded it and did an make oldconfig. It still fails here. Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006/12/20 06:59 (GMT-0500) Nick Zentena apparently typed: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 06:44, Mark Goldstein wrote: Guys, please re-check. Somebody mistyped it as marymount.com. This one is working. It was marymount.edu that still fails (on ALL my boxes, including Win XP). Okay neither are working for me after upgrading the kernal. Upgrading to which kernel? I tried on 3 different boxes with about 8 different operating systems. The only failures came from using 2.6.18 kernels. XP and OS/2 reach it fine, as do 2.6.19 and =2.6.17. -- Let your conversation be always full of grace. Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 05:15, Michael Nelson wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 08:53:13PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. I am running 10.1 with a self-compiled Linux seahunt 2.6.18 kernel, and it raises the Marymount site just fine. If it's a 2.6.18 problem, it's related to something in the SUSE version of 2.6.18, because kernel.org's 2.6.18 works fine. Funny - I couldn't reach it this morning. I can now. I then checked: Owner: Marymount University 2807 North Glebe Rd Arlington VA US 22207 IP Address: 198.100.0.3 Operating System: Solaris 8 Web Server: Apache/1.3.14 Unix tomcat/1.0 Last Updated: 9-Apr-2001 No wonder they're having problems, they need to run the web server on a REAL OS. :P -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:43, Kai Ponte wrote: ... Funny - I couldn't reach it this morning. I can now. I then checked: Owner: Marymount University 2807 North Glebe Rd Arlington VA US 22207 IP Address: 198.100.0.3 Operating System: Solaris 8 Web Server: Apache/1.3.14 Unix tomcat/1.0 Last Updated: 9-Apr-2001 Solaris 8 is a bit long in the tooth, and it's certainly not out of the question that there could be a subtle error in its TCP/IP stack, especially if the administrators at Marymount are not diligent about updates and patches, but I think it's a long shot. Where did you get that information? It's not part of the whois output. ... kai Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006/12/20 09:01 (GMT+-0500) Nick Zentena apparently typed: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:02, Felix Miata wrote: Have you read the bug? Etch's and Fedora's 2.6.18 kernels also fail. OTOH, the vanilla 2.6.19 kernel worked for me yesterday, and still works today. How did you configure it? I downloaded it and did an make oldconfig. It still fails here. I didn't build it specifically for testing this problem, instead for cifs smbfs testing. I stripped out a lot of useless hardware support to conserve space. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/config -- Let your conversation be always full of grace. Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-20-06 11:53]: Where did you get that information? It's not part of the whois output. Don't know where *he* got it but, http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.marymount.edu -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 08:51, Randall R Schulz wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:43, Kai Ponte wrote: ... Funny - I couldn't reach it this morning. I can now. I then checked: Owner: Marymount University 2807 North Glebe Rd Arlington VA US 22207 IP Address: 198.100.0.3 Operating System: Solaris 8 Web Server: Apache/1.3.14 Unix tomcat/1.0 Last Updated: 9-Apr-2001 Solaris 8 is a bit long in the tooth, and it's certainly not out of the question that there could be a subtle error in its TCP/IP stack, especially if the administrators at Marymount are not diligent about updates and patches, but I think it's a long shot. Who knows. I just noticed the older software. Where did you get that information? It's not part of the whois output. http://news.netcraft.com/ Whois won't spit that information out. I could also use nmap. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-20 08:06, Felix Miata wrote: On 2006/12/20 06:59 (GMT-0500) Nick Zentena apparently typed: Okay neither are working for me after upgrading the kernal. Upgrading to which kernel? I tried on 3 different boxes with about 8 different operating systems. The only failures came from using 2.6.18 kernels. XP and OS/2 reach it fine, as do 2.6.19 and =2.6.17. Nick put up a 2.6.19 kernel, but with make oldconfig. A clue perhaps? -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Kenneth Schneider wrote: If the proxy were running on anything but 10.2 w/ 2.6.18 kernel it would probably work. So it does seem to be a definite kernel bug. weird. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.2 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-20 16:21, Charles philip Chan wrote: On 20 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it does seem to be a definite kernel bug. weird. They don't work with kernel 2.6.19 either. Charles Incorrect. Felix Miata has compiled one which works, with a lot of stuff stripped out: On 2006/12/20 09:01 (GMT+-0500) Nick Zentena apparently typed: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:02, Felix Miata wrote: Have you read the bug? Etch's and Fedora's 2.6.18 kernels also fail. OTOH, the vanilla 2.6.19 kernel worked for me yesterday, and still works today. How did you configure it? I downloaded it and did an make oldconfig. It still fails here. I didn't build it specifically for testing this problem, instead for cifs smbfs testing. I stripped out a lot of useless hardware support to conserve space. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/config Maybe we can talk Felix into adding stuff back in, until it breaks -- then we will have found the culprit :-) -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Thursday 21 December 2006 00:42, Darryl Gregorash wrote: On 2006-12-20 16:21, Charles philip Chan wrote: On 20 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it does seem to be a definite kernel bug. weird. They don't work with kernel 2.6.19 either. Charles Incorrect. Felix Miata has compiled one which works, with a lot of stuff stripped out: On 2006/12/20 09:01 (GMT+-0500) Nick Zentena apparently typed: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:02, Felix Miata wrote: Have you read the bug? Etch's and Fedora's 2.6.18 kernels also fail. OTOH, the vanilla 2.6.19 kernel worked for me yesterday, and still works today. How did you configure it? I downloaded it and did an make oldconfig. It still fails here. I didn't build it specifically for testing this problem, instead for cifs smbfs testing. I stripped out a lot of useless hardware support to conserve space. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/config Maybe we can talk Felix into adding stuff back in, until it breaks -- then we will have found the culprit :-) Adding back in: not 1 by 1, but 50% by 50%. With 16 items, you would need 4 runs (2^4=16)..., maybe less if you leave unrelated stuff out. ;-P Cheers, Leen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 20 Dec 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incorrect. Felix Miata has compiled one which works, with a lot of stuff stripped out: On 2006/12/20 09:01 (GMT+-0500) Nick Zentena apparently typed: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:02, Felix Miata wrote: Have you read the bug? Etch's and Fedora's 2.6.18 kernels also fail. OTOH, the vanilla 2.6.19 kernel worked for me yesterday, and still works today. Strange, my 2.6.19 is a vanilla kernel with the TIOCGDEV patch and the CK patchset: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ For the record I have no problems access other websites. The only ones that I have problems with are the 2 sites that the OP mentioned. Charles -- printk(KERN_ERR Danger Will Robinson: failed to re-trigger IRQ%d\n, irq); linux-2.6.6/arch/arm/common/sa.c pgpL4iVnqU5HF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/20/06, Joe Morris (NTM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Schneider wrote: If the proxy were running on anything but 10.2 w/ 2.6.18 kernel it would probably work. So it does seem to be a definite kernel bug. weird. Once again, my configuration at home is: Pentium III box with openSuSE 10.2, default kernel 2.6.18 and 2 NICs. One NIC is connected to ADSL modem. The box runs SuSE Firewall2 with masquerading. I can access both sites FROM THIS BOX without any problem. I also tried marymount site before I started firewall, that is it was only PPPoE (for ADSL modem), no NAT and no proxy. It was OK as well. Well, of course there was my provider ... -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:09, Mark Goldstein wrote: Well, of course there was my provider ... Since your results differ from most with the same kernel, have you tested to see if you are behind a transparent proxy at your provider? -- _ John Andersen pgpHR4jEmNvmJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/21/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:09, Mark Goldstein wrote: Well, of course there was my provider ... Since your results differ from most with the same kernel, have you tested to see if you are behind a transparent proxy at your provider? No I did not. Is there any tool that can assist in that? Of course I can use tracerout, but how would I know whether any of intermediate hosts was proxy? -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006/12/19 17:48 (GMT-0600) Darryl Gregorash apparently typed: Felix was the first one to suggest it, so maybe he should do it :-) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=229848 Those who have bugzilla accounts should feel free to add any useful information I may have left out. -- Let your conversation be always full of grace. Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Those who have bugzilla accounts should feel free to add any useful information I may have left out. Thank Felix--you beat me to it. Chip -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-19 18:58, Felix Miata wrote: On 2006/12/19 17:48 (GMT-0600) Darryl Gregorash apparently typed: Felix was the first one to suggest it, so maybe he should do it :-) https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=229848 Those who have bugzilla accounts should feel free to add any useful information I may have left out. And vote for the bug too. Anyone without an account should create one, add comments where appropriate, and then vote for it :-) BTW, Felix, you created the bug as normal severity. Shouldn't it be a tad higher than that? I don't think it's quite a blocker, but it's certainly major, IMO. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006/12/19 19:18 (GMT-0600) Darryl Gregorash apparently typed: On 2006-12-19 18:58, Felix Miata wrote: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=229848 And vote for the bug too. Anyone without an account should create one, add comments where appropriate, and then vote for it :-) Comments are not prerequisite to voting, but if most who replied in thread also vote they'll probably get a better handle on how widespread the problem is among 10.2 users. BTW, Felix, you created the bug as normal severity. Shouldn't it be a tad higher than that? I don't think it's quite a blocker, but it's certainly major, IMO. https://bugzilla.novell.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity The way I read the instructions, the assignee should determine whether some deviation from normal is warranted for this particular bug. It's only major if you have to reach a particular site, which would make it a literal blocker for you. Zillions of other web sites don't produce the problem. In the overall scheme, this is more like trivial, which Mozilla's Bugzilla has, but not Novell's. -- Let your conversation be always full of grace. Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
* Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-19-06 20:48]: Comments are not prerequisite to voting, but if most who replied in thread also vote they'll probably get a better handle on how widespread the problem is among 10.2 users. me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. I will vote and comment. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-19 19:53, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-19-06 20:48]: Comments are not prerequisite to voting, but if most who replied in thread also vote they'll probably get a better handle on how widespread the problem is among 10.2 users. me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Quite correct, save one point: Felix put up a vanilla 2.6.19 kernel, and the problem went away. That and Martin Mielke's 403 error in his squid log are the only clues to what is happening. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 2006-12-19 19:45, Felix Miata wrote: On 2006/12/19 19:18 (GMT-0600) Darryl Gregorash apparently typed: Not apparently ;-) BTW, Felix, you created the bug as normal severity. Shouldn't it be a tad higher than that? I don't think it's quite a blocker, but it's certainly major, IMO. https://bugzilla.novell.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_severity The way I read the instructions, the assignee should determine whether some deviation from normal is warranted for this particular bug. It's only major if you have to reach a particular site, which would make it a literal blocker for you. Zillions of other web sites don't produce the problem. In the overall scheme, this is more like trivial, which Mozilla's Bugzilla has, but not Novell's. That isn't how I read it, particularly since my permissions allow me to edit any bug field :-) The OP could probably bump the bug up to P0, given that it's his work site -- and for him, that is surely a major loss of function at least. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. Mark: did you post your particulars (processor, nics, etc) to the bugzilla report as a point of reference to the developers? -- _ John Andersen pgps0ZLMReN8i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Hi, On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:45, Mark Goldstein wrote: On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. Only guessing: you're accessing http through a proxy, right? Greetings from Stuhr hartmut -- Hartmut Meyer, NTS EMEA Partner Relationship Manager SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg T: +49 421 3064385 - M: +49 179 2279480 F: +49 421 3064387 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE® Linux Enterprise 10 - Your Linux is ready http://www.novell.com/linux pgpPLDjVw13Ro.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] unable to access website after 10.2 install (bug 229848)
Mark, Reply on 20-12-2006 9:55:47 On 12/20/06, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: me thinks it not be a 10.2 problem, but a kernel problem. I have 10.1 with 2.6.18.5-jen40-default and cannot access the site. I have read the thread and, as I recall, noone with 2.6.18+ could access, but several with 2.6.16 could. Patrick, that's not correct. As I wrote I had no problem accessing these sites and I have 2.6.18.2-34-default kernel on 2 machines. -- Mark Goldstein May I ask if you have these two boxes behind a proxy? I tracked it as far down as the 2.6.17+ kernels could not reach that site, except when being proxied. I discussed with different other people yesterday evening.. none of them, having a 2.6.17+ kernel (sorry, nobody had a 2.6.19) was able to access it... except in corp where a proxy was in place... like I have it here for myself. Regards, Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
