Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-20 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:22:35 Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:
   Kevin Thorpe wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?
  

 Packages for SLES9 should work fine:

 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/S
LES_9/

_might_ work fine, but also not a great option. SLES 9 is closest to 
SuSE Linux 9.1, so you might also find that these packages have massive 
dependency problems as well.

Jon
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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-20 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2008/1/20, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:22:35 Ciro Iriarte wrote:
  2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:
Kevin Thorpe wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?
   
 
  Packages for SLES9 should work fine:
 
  http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/S
 LES_9/

 _might_ work fine, but also not a great option. SLES 9 is closest to
 SuSE Linux 9.1, so you might also find that these packages have massive
 dependency problems as well.

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Well, i've been using the mysql-4 package from 9.3 in sles9sp3 in two
of our servers without issues for a lng time

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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-20 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Monday 21 January 2008 10:42:51 Ciro Iriarte wrote:
 2008/1/20, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Saturday 19 January 2008 09:22:35 Ciro Iriarte wrote:
   2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:
 Kevin Thorpe wrote:
  Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE
  9.3?
  
   Packages for SLES9 should work fine:
  
   http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql
  51/S LES_9/
 
  _might_ work fine, but also not a great option. SLES 9 is closest
  to SuSE Linux 9.1, so you might also find that these packages have
  massive dependency problems as well.
 

 Well, i've been using the mysql-4 package from 9.3 in sles9sp3 in two
 of our servers without issues for a lng time

Did you mean to type you've been using mysql-4 packages on SLES9 in an 
unsupported configuration/environment for a long time :-)
Seriously, it might well work but YMMV as the packages weren't built for 
that target, and there are changes between the versions (kernel and 
glibc etc.).
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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-18 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Friday 2008-01-18 at 11:14 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:


Ha! How often do you do upgrades? I mean, not a fresh install? It does
take the weekend. The machine is up and running in 3..6 hours, but then
you are adjusting configs and solving problems the rest of the week.


It depends. Desktops/laptops with every release. As was stated, these aren't
really an issue anyway. Servers - not as frequently. But then for servers I
use SLES. Even so, I don't find that I need to adjust configs for the rest of
the week. I suppose if you count testing time into the 'time to upgrade' then
my upgrades might take a while.


Yep, I count that. And asking here, too ;-)


(Not forgetting making sure I have a last
known good backup, or at least a roll-back method)


Me too. Plus a spare partition with a working system.


I do upgrade, so I know...


Fair enough - everyone has a different experience. I also see from another
thread that you recompile your kernels which presumably adds to your
upgrade/tweaking/fixing time as well...


X'-)

Right... but I don't do that day one. The compile alone can take 4 hours 
in this machine, considering I 'nice' it so I can continue with my things.


There is also the first YOU run, that also takes a longish time, there are 
so many patches. I don't do that from the DVD.


I consider about a week to have every thing running correctly, but of 
course the machine is running and usable from day one. The upgrade itself 
takes about 6 hours, maybe more, because it downloads things that aren't 
in the DVD from remote repositories; the adsl has an hiccup now and then, 
and Yast dutifully pops up asking whether I want to retry or skip... and 
as I don't sit that many hours waiting for it to finish, when I come back 
and see that pop up I get somewhat mad.


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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-18 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2008/1/17, Jonathan Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:
  Kevin Thorpe wrote:
   Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?
 
  There are 5.0 and 5.1 rpms for 10.0 in the buildservice:
  http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=mysqlbaseproject=SUSE%3ASL-10.
 0 , if you're lucky, it'll work on 9.3 too. If not, you can take the
  src.rpm and rebuild.

 I really wouldn't install RPMs built for 10.0 on 9.3 - you'll be heading
 for a world of pain. Rebuilding _might_ work but...

   I really should upgrade
 
  Definitely.

 Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.

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Packages for SLES9 should work fine:

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/mysql51/SLES_9/

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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-17 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Thursday 2008-01-17 at 14:19 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:


Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.


Ha! How often do you do upgrades? I mean, not a fresh install? It does 
take the weekend. The machine is up and running in 3..6 hours, but then 
you are adjusting configs and solving problems the rest of the week.


I do upgrade, so I know...

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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-17 Thread David C. Rankin

Jonathan Ervine wrote:

On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:

Kevin Thorpe wrote:

Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?

There are 5.0 and 5.1 rpms for 10.0 in the buildservice:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=mysqlbaseproject=SUSE%3ASL-10.
0 , if you're lucky, it'll work on 9.3 too. If not, you can take the
src.rpm and rebuild.


I really wouldn't install RPMs built for 10.0 on 9.3 - you'll be heading 
for a world of pain. Rebuilding _might_ work but...



I really should upgrade

Definitely.


Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.

Jon


I'll third this one. I loved 9.3 and 10.0, but as many of the wonderful 
os application started utilizing mysql 5.x and php 5.2.x, building from 
source or rebuilding became a real pain. With 10.0 now out of support, a 
reinstall of 10.3 became the only real option. The fresh install of 10.3 
can be fairly painless if you. First the real quick and dirty way, 
then the quick and dirty version:


THE REAL QUICK AND DIRTY WAY:

Pay $94, get the new 500G hard drive, configure as primary, set existing 
drive as a slave, pop the 10.3 dvd in, reboot, partition and install on 
your new drive, mount the needed old partitions and restore your data 
and config, done. You will still be able to boot 9.3 from grub if you 
need to.


THE QUICK AND DIRTY WAY:

The Backup

(1) backup your data
(2) backup /home (your whole /home, not just pieces of it)
(3) backup /etc (being able to refer to the old config is priceless)
(4) backup /var/lib/(what you need) [named/dyn, mysql, etc.] and 
anything you have in /usr you need (/usr/local/etc)
(5) dump your database to text and backup as needed (mysqldump -A  
all_databases.sql


The Install

(6) put the 10.3 dvd in and reboot/install
(7) restore the pieces of home you need (.ssh, .procmailrc, .bashrc, etc.)
(8) reload your data
(9) reload your database (mysql -u root  all_databases.sql)
(10) reconfigure your needed services with reference to old /var /etc 
(http, dhcp, dns, postfix, pptp, smb, ldap, etc..) The config files 
haven't changed that much since 9.3, there are just a few extra 
parameters there. I still rely on much of the SuSE 9.3 documentation for 
configuration needs because they still explain the actual manual editing 
and options of the proper config files and not the pushbutton yast 
approach and they are 100% relevant.


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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-17 Thread David C. Rankin

Carlos E. R. wrote:



The Thursday 2008-01-17 at 14:19 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:


Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.


Ha! How often do you do upgrades? I mean, not a fresh install? It does 
take the weekend. The machine is up and running in 3..6 hours, but then 
you are adjusting configs and solving problems the rest of the week.


I do upgrade, so I know...



I'm still shaking 'bugs' out of 10.3 on the main server for our office 
that suffered a unrecoverable disk error on Jan 2... If it is just a 
desktop, then 3-6 hours will do, it is a full blown server, add an 
exponent, your exponential factor will vary.


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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-17 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Thursday 17 January 2008 18:32:45 Carlos E. R. wrote:
 The Thursday 2008-01-17 at 14:19 +0800, Jonathan Ervine wrote:
  Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.

 Ha! How often do you do upgrades? I mean, not a fresh install? It does
 take the weekend. The machine is up and running in 3..6 hours, but then
 you are adjusting configs and solving problems the rest of the week.

It depends. Desktops/laptops with every release. As was stated, these aren't 
really an issue anyway. Servers - not as frequently. But then for servers I 
use SLES. Even so, I don't find that I need to adjust configs for the rest of 
the week. I suppose if you count testing time into the 'time to upgrade' then 
my upgrades might take a while. (Not forgetting making sure I have a last 
known good backup, or at least a roll-back method)

 I do upgrade, so I know...

Fair enough - everyone has a different experience. I also see from another 
thread that you recompile your kernels which presumably adds to your 
upgrade/tweaking/fixing time as well...
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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-16 Thread Michal Marek
Kevin Thorpe wrote:
 Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?

There are 5.0 and 5.1 rpms for 10.0 in the buildservice:
http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=mysqlbaseproject=SUSE%3ASL-10.0 ,
if you're lucky, it'll work on 9.3 too. If not, you can take the src.rpm
and rebuild.


 I really should upgrade

Definitely.

Michal
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Re: [opensuse] MySQL 5 rpms for SuSE 9.3?

2008-01-16 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Wednesday 16 January 2008 19:49:07 Michal Marek wrote:
 Kevin Thorpe wrote:
  Does anyone know where I can get mysql version 5 for SuSE 9.3?

 There are 5.0 and 5.1 rpms for 10.0 in the buildservice:
 http://software.opensuse.org/search?q=mysqlbaseproject=SUSE%3ASL-10.
0 , if you're lucky, it'll work on 9.3 too. If not, you can take the
 src.rpm and rebuild.

I really wouldn't install RPMs built for 10.0 on 9.3 - you'll be heading 
for a world of pain. Rebuilding _might_ work but...

  I really should upgrade

 Definitely.

Second this sentiment. An upgrade really shouldn't take all weekend.

Jon
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