Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Monday 10 September 2007 23:50, which is late night, Rajko M. wrote and now has to explain: ... The 'cfdisk' is dependable program and easy to use, but that's not all, there is 'sfdisk' too :-) Looks like 'fdisk', but it is better, than 'parted'. The 'sfdisk' looks like 'fdisk', but it is better. Than we have parted as another partitioning tool, that is installed by default. AFAIK parted is used by YaST. ... Thanks again guys and all ideas welcome on dividing up that 167GB before I commit. Adding partitions in empty space after already partitioned space is not risky, at least not more than any partitioning. The only operation that requires precision is if you resize partition that is between 2 others. The only advice that you need is to have in mind that you have 6 more left. So maximum 5 partitions of 10 GB for experimental systems, and the rest for archive where you can store iso files, backups, virtual machine images etc. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 00:15 -0400, Bob S wrote: cfdisk will do it !! Thanks so much ! All the remaining 167GB of free space. I had never heard of cfdisk and was afraid of what I would do so I studied the man page over and over and then tried it. It will work. (Wonder why Yast partitioner won't?) What it will do is create sda10 a logical partition of 167GB of all remaining free space which I am assuming will push the extended partion out to the end of the disk. I didn't do it because I am afraid to do it on my running system ( a concern?) and I didn't want a partition of that huge size, and I don't see (yet) a way to create several smaller partitions. Can that be done in cfdisk? I suppose I could go to the yast partitioner and resize it. but that may make the extended partition shrink. I dunno yet. But I am very happy that I have that space back for when I go to install 10.3. I think you can safely create that big partition, and then, if you want, delete it in Yast and create smaller partitions. This should not shrink the extended partition again (usual disclaimers apply, blah, blah, blah). Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5oxttTMYHG2NR9URAiWsAJ9SMLYPIgZ9SR965saUIyTaJmOllACfYA36 +73+yhkvETbwXzAuj0sxjvE= =IRqJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while 16 are not. will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). I believe your statement probably is based upon http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-08/msg01646.html but what that says is that the legacy drivers *may* no longer be included in 10.4, *not* that installing to a disk possessing more than 15 partitions will be impossible (as is the case in Fedora as of v7). -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while 16 are not. You are probably right. It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must be 15 partitions. However, the 10.3 installer message talks about 16. Perhaps it says 16 or more, but I'd had to reboot in order to check it. will not be able to install suse 10.4 (yes, that's a four). I believe your statement probably is based upon http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2007-08/msg01646.html but what that says is that the legacy drivers *may* no longer be included in 10.4, *not* that installing to a disk possessing more than 15 partitions will be impossible (as is the case in Fedora as of v7). If the legacy drivers are not included, then install and usage are impossible. I'd hug that may, but... It is also confirmed by https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309070#c11 - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5qgTtTMYHG2NR9URAl7XAJ4/lhnZFxSomFhDjx6+aIhA1DDoawCffyt7 Z1We0kJZ2X2qv84Kd7GcCzo= =6x4C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 16:37 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 09:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/11 14:39 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. apparently typed: Notice: beware of adding too many partitions! If you have more than 16 you The correct statement is more than *15*, as 15 are supported by SCSI, while 16 are not. You are probably right. It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must be 15 partitions. Wrong! sda0 is a partition as well as hda0 is a partition _NOT_ the whole disk. The whole disk would be sda or hda (without the number). -- Ken Schneider UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2007-09-11 at 12:00 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote: You are probably right. It is fom 0 to 15, which makes 16; but the 0 is the whole disk. So it must be 15 partitions. Wrong! sda0 is a partition as well as hda0 is a partition _NOT_ the whole disk. The whole disk would be sda or hda (without the number). Wrong, because I'm not refering to that zero, but to the one in the minor number. 8 block SCSI disk devices (0-15) 0 = /dev/sda First SCSI disk whole disk 16 = /dev/sdb Second SCSI disk whole disk 32 = /dev/sdc Third SCSI disk whole disk ... 240 = /dev/sdp Sixteenth SCSI disk whole disk Partitions are handled in the same way as for IDE disks (see major number 3) except that the limit on partitions is 15. So, major 8, minor 0 is sda, and major 8, minor 1 is sda1. Check: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ l /dev/sd* brw-r- 1 root disk 8, 0 2007-09-11 18:55 /dev/sda brw-r- 1 root disk 8, 1 2007-09-11 18:55 /dev/sda1 See? :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG5s+ytTMYHG2NR9URAox6AKCZYbstDqypwVlCZBqXCDbVVydFmwCgjimS tlgewz0OnlZ4Xz4MWs57XIw= =hbND -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
Bob S wrote: On Monday 10 September 2007 01:56, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/09 23:40 (GMT-0400) Kenneth Schneider apparently typed: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 22:21 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 22:37 (GMT-0400) Bob S wrote: Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda Felix, Rajko, Ken, And all of the other great guys on this list who tried to help. What a great bunch! .snip more older discussion... 2) Run in console as root cfdisk and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more partitions. That certainly should work. I don't think that will work as he has his extended partition ending at 10055 which is where sda9 ends. At this point his only option is to backup sda5-sda9, delete them and then recreate the extended partition using all of the available space. He will then be able to created more partitions. sda4 only ends at 10055 because that's where sda9 ends. sda9's EPBR has no means to tell where the end of the disk is. As soon as sda10 is created, sda4 will magically grow to end where sda10 ends, unless the partitioning tool is broken. Only when a logical partition has been created that includes cylinder 30401 will sda4 show ending at the end of the disk. -- cfdisk will do it !! Thanks so much ! All the remaining 167GB of free space. I had never heard of cfdisk and was afraid of what I would do so I studied the man page over and over and then tried it. It will work. (Wonder why Yast partitioner won't?) What it will do is create sda10 a logical partition of 167GB of all remaining free space which I am assuming will push the extended partion out to the end of the disk. I didn't do it because I am afraid to do it on my running system ( a concern?) and I didn't want a partition of that huge size, and I don't see (yet) a way to create several smaller partitions. Can that be done in cfdisk? I suppose I could go to the yast partitioner and resize it. but that may make the extended partition shrink. I dunno yet. But I am very happy that I have that space back for when I go to install 10.3. Thanks again guys and all ideas welcome on dividing up that 167GB before I commit. Bob S Hi Bob, I am sending this again so it gets on opensuse@opensuse.org I would suggest you go to this site: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php and click this version: gparted-livecd-0.3.4-6 http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843package_id=173828release_id=500778 This version can act as a boot cd to boot linux or win. I use this all the time and never had a problem. It is an iso file, you can use k3b to burn a disk image, don't just copy it tp a cd jozien -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Monday 10 September 2007 01:56, Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/09/09 23:40 (GMT-0400) Kenneth Schneider apparently typed: On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 22:21 -0500, Rajko M. wrote: On Sunday 09 September 2007 22:37 (GMT-0400) Bob S wrote: Here is output of fdisk -l /dev/sda Felix, Rajko, Ken, And all of the other great guys on this list who tried to help. What a great bunch! .snip more older discussion... 2) Run in console as root cfdisk and see what it has to tell. In normal circumstances it doesn't list extended partition at all. The space after 10055 cylinder should be explicitly listed as free. So move highlight down to that line (free space) and try to add more partitions. That certainly should work. I don't think that will work as he has his extended partition ending at 10055 which is where sda9 ends. At this point his only option is to backup sda5-sda9, delete them and then recreate the extended partition using all of the available space. He will then be able to created more partitions. sda4 only ends at 10055 because that's where sda9 ends. sda9's EPBR has no means to tell where the end of the disk is. As soon as sda10 is created, sda4 will magically grow to end where sda10 ends, unless the partitioning tool is broken. Only when a logical partition has been created that includes cylinder 30401 will sda4 show ending at the end of the disk. -- cfdisk will do it !! Thanks so much ! All the remaining 167GB of free space. I had never heard of cfdisk and was afraid of what I would do so I studied the man page over and over and then tried it. It will work. (Wonder why Yast partitioner won't?) What it will do is create sda10 a logical partition of 167GB of all remaining free space which I am assuming will push the extended partion out to the end of the disk. I didn't do it because I am afraid to do it on my running system ( a concern?) and I didn't want a partition of that huge size, and I don't see (yet) a way to create several smaller partitions. Can that be done in cfdisk? I suppose I could go to the yast partitioner and resize it. but that may make the extended partition shrink. I dunno yet. But I am very happy that I have that space back for when I go to install 10.3. Thanks again guys and all ideas welcome on dividing up that 167GB before I commit. Bob S -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions for Partitioning guru's - Solved
On Monday 10 September 2007 23:15, Bob S wrote: cfdisk will do it !! Thanks so much ! All the remaining 167GB of free space. I had never heard of cfdisk and was afraid of what I would do so I studied the man page over and over and then tried it. It will work. (Wonder why Yast partitioner won't?) What it will do is create sda10 a logical partition of 167GB of all remaining free space which I am assuming will push the extended partion out to the end of the disk. I didn't do it because I am afraid to do it on my running system ( a concern?) and I didn't want a partition of that huge size, and I don't see (yet) a way to create several smaller partitions. Can that be done in cfdisk? The 'cfdisk' is dependable program and easy to use, but that's not all, there is 'sfdisk' too :-) Looks like 'fdisk', but it is better, than 'parted'. I suppose I could go to the yast partitioner and resize it. but that may make the extended partition shrink. I dunno yet. But I am very happy that I have that space back for when I go to install 10.3. Have you tried to add partition using YaST? Thanks again guys and all ideas welcome on dividing up that 167GB before I commit. Bob S -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
