Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE KInfoCenter

2006-12-02 Thread Stephan Binner
On Saturday 02 December 2006 04:00, Felix Miata wrote:

 option, not the individual applets, which means somewhere along the way
 in factory recently some configuration changed. Why did this happen?

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=211379

 How or what can I reconfigure so that the KDE system monitor menu offers
 the individual applets instead of KInfoCenter?

See comment 9 of above entry how to revert to the previous duplication of 
showing the individual applets and KInfoCenter.

Bye,
   Steve
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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 GM

2006-12-02 Thread jdd

Andreas Jaeger a écrit :


Wording is definitely a problem.  GM was done (on the 1st) and it will
be public on the 7th...


so what we now can do is installing from factory, which is GM...

thanks for the good job, Andreas :-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ludicrous software management

2006-12-02 Thread Christoph Thiel
Hi Eberhard,

On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 01:02:14AM +0100, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

   Interesting.
   What is the delivery bandwidth of ftp.skynet.be?
   
   Maybe Christoph should extend the redirect algorithm at 
   download.opensuse.org to respect outgoing bandwidth...
  
  Sure, that would be nice to have -- but how should d.o.o get an idea of the
  current load on a mirror? Any suggestions? :)
 
 By the number of taken redirections within the last time window. We
 could further refine that with a load measure of the servers at a counted
 number of sessions.

Might be an option, but I would rathe like to have the mirrors somehow
notify the redirector about their status. Ie. be able to automatically
influence it.


 BTW: even 3000 http sessions are no problem at ftp-1.gwdg.de - network
 delivery currently is 78 MB/sec, while disk I/O is 7 MB/sec. The huge
 RAM/buffer cache of 32 MB really is the biggest helper...
  ^ I wish I had 32 MB as well ;)

Best,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 and CrossoverOffice

2006-12-02 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 11:26:54PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 20:32 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 01:38:55PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
   Since upgrading to the latest kernel, 2.6.18.2-33 I can no longer run my
   CXO programs I.E. Quicken. I get the following error when launching the
   program:
  
  What distro?
 
 In the subject line.
 
  
   wine: failed to initialize: /opt/cxoffice/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: failed
   to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
   
   Is this something being caused by the latest kernel update?
  
  It might be because of default ulimits we have. 
 
 And I can change these where?
 
 I reloaded the install kernel with the same results.

There is a package called ulimit. 
You can either:
- deinstall it (rpm -e ulimit)
- or set in /etc/syconfig/ulimit:

SOFTVIRTUALLIMIT=80
to
SOFTVIRTUALLIMIT=0

After this change a reboot is required (to clear the previous ulimits).

I hope this helps, if not, please mail again.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] SUSE KInfoCenter

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Felix Miata schrieb:
 I thought I was imagining things. KInfoCenter is a 2 pane panel with
 various types of information selectable in the left pane that displays
 in the right pane. In various distros, those types take the form of
 applets that are separately selectable via the monitor section of the
 KDE system menu. My 10.0 is one that provides the separate applets. My
 upgrades of factory to RC3 or whatever is there now do not, providing
 only KInfoCenter in the monitor menu.

When I made the report that led to this change, I couldn't imagine that
showing these modules as individual applications is the intended behaviour.

The modules are collected from .desktop files in
$KDEDIR/share/applications/kde. Looking at this directory, I can find a
lot of other .desktop files which are not shown either.

E.g. xserver.desktop has:

X-KDE-Library=info
X-KDE-FactoryName=xserver
X-KDE-ParentApp=kinfocenter
Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-information;

This was shown in the menu.

And now, e.g. language.desktop has:

X-KDE-Library=locale
X-KDE-FactoryName=locale
X-KDE-ParentApp=kcontrol
Categories=Qt;KDE;X-KDE-settings-accessibility;

It sounded illogical to me that the former is shown as an individual
item, but the latter is not.

Both are modules that are usually accessed through a ParentApp,
kinfocenter in the first case and kcontrol in the latter case. I was
convinced that showing kinfocenter modules as applications while not
showing kcontrol modules as applications is just an oversight, and I
still think that this change is not the worst idea until someone clearly
states that these modules are intended to be considered as applications
on their own.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 and CrossoverOffice

2006-12-02 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 08:14 +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote:
 Kenneth Schneider schrieb:
  On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 20:32 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:

  On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 01:38:55PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
  
  Since upgrading to the latest kernel, 2.6.18.2-33 I can no longer run my
  CXO programs I.E. Quicken. I get the following error when launching the
  program:

  What distro?
  
 
  In the subject line.
 

  wine: failed to initialize: /opt/cxoffice/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: failed
  to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
 
  Is this something being caused by the latest kernel update?

  It might be because of default ulimits we have. 
  
 
  And I can change these where?
 
  I reloaded the install kernel with the same results.
 
  I don't know about others but this is a show stopper for me. I still
  need to run a couple of MS apts and do not have the option of dual boot
  or VMware available. So much for upgrading my desktop. I will still
  experiment with the laptop for now ( this is how I found the problem ).
 
  Ken

 
 What do you mean by have not VMware available:
 
 http://www.vmware.com/products/server
 

It means I do not have it installed and don't have space to install and
run it. Well technically I can install it but I don't have space on the
laptop HDD for a virtual machine. This is an older machine with a 20G
HDD. And why add something like VMware which requires a lot of
horsepower when I can use CXO in it's place?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] GM release

2006-12-02 Thread Dominik Friedrich
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 could it be possible to have the GM _torrents_ annouced two days before
 the GM, may be with some trusted seeders allowed to ftp the isos before
 the others to open the pipe?
 
 of course I'm candidate as seeder. I can dl with bt or ftp and seed bt
 (I sent 28Gb of RC1cd's)

Some mirrors are seeding via bittorrent, e.g. ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de
seeds with about 100-150 MBit/s (limit by slow hds). I think the
bittorrent speed should be fine when 10.2 is officially released.

Best regards,
Dominik
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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2RC1 and CrossoverOffice [SOLVED]

2006-12-02 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 11:39 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 11:26:54PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
  On Fri, 2006-12-01 at 20:32 +0100, Marcus Meissner wrote:
   On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 01:38:55PM -0500, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
Since upgrading to the latest kernel, 2.6.18.2-33 I can no longer run my
CXO programs I.E. Quicken. I get the following error when launching the
program:
   
   What distro?
  
  In the subject line.
  
   
wine: failed to initialize: /opt/cxoffice/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: failed
to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory

Is this something being caused by the latest kernel update?
   
   It might be because of default ulimits we have. 
  
  And I can change these where?
  
  I reloaded the install kernel with the same results.
 
 There is a package called ulimit. 
 You can either:
 - deinstall it (rpm -e ulimit)
 - or set in /etc/syconfig/ulimit:
 
 SOFTVIRTUALLIMIT=80
 to
 SOFTVIRTUALLIMIT=0
 
 After this change a reboot is required (to clear the previous ulimits).
 
 I hope this helps, if not, please mail again.
 

This did fix the problem and perhaps would solve a problem with others
using either CXO or wine to run their programs.

Thanks,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] GM release

2006-12-02 Thread Birger Kollstrand
Lørdag 02 desember 2006 06:41, skrev Randall R Schulz:
 Carlos,

 On Friday 01 December 2006 21:14, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   My router crashes after seeding 4 or 6 hours. And it runs an
   embedded linux with a 2.4 kernel. So I can't seed much.
 
  Why do you think it is running Linux ? Have you tested it ?

 It's certainly possible--even likely.

 LinkSys has (or had) at least one Linux-based home networking firewall /
 router. There are also complete open source replacements for that
 router's firmware, but as I understand it, only the older versions of
 that router with more RAM can run it. It has some features not found in
 the stock LinkSys routers.

 Here's the first story I found relating to this router and its firmware:

 http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3562391


If you want Linux routers have a look at www.openwrt.org 

Find the HW compatibility page and there you will find a huge number of 
routers compatible with Linux.

It would be fun if we caould get an openSUSE embedded for those :-)

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[opensuse-factory] Still no config options for zmd log?

2006-12-02 Thread Anders Norrbring
I just looked over zmd in 10.2, but I still can't find a way to 
reconfigure the logging to zmd-messages.log.
Obviously it rotates every day, but doesn't compress. Also, it continues 
to fill up with rotated logs, with no settings for how many rotations 
should be saved.


Or is it just me, not finding the options?
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Still no config options for zmd log?

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Anders Norrbring schrieb:
 Or is it just me, not finding the options?

Try:

rug get-prefs

and consult the man page how to use set-prefs.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Still no config options for zmd log?

2006-12-02 Thread Anders Norrbring

Andreas Hanke skrev:

Anders Norrbring schrieb:

Or is it just me, not finding the options?


Try:

rug get-prefs

and consult the man page how to use set-prefs.


Thanks, it's not all the way, but it's a start for sure.. :)

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[opensuse-factory] YaST2 System Update not too bright

2006-12-02 Thread Felix Miata
Prior to updating from about beta2 to current factory tree today, I
downloaded and installed the 2.6.18.2-33-default kernel with rpm -ivh so
that the previous 2.6.18.2-5 kernel would remain installed. I forgot to
reboot prior to running System Update, which proceeded to install
2.6.18.2-33 again, and remove 2.6.18.2-5. :-(
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Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 System Update not too bright

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Felix Miata schrieb:
 Prior to updating from about beta2 to current factory tree today, I
 downloaded and installed the 2.6.18.2-33-default kernel with rpm -ivh so
 that the previous 2.6.18.2-5 kernel would remain installed. I forgot to
 reboot prior to running System Update, which proceeded to install
 2.6.18.2-33 again, and remove 2.6.18.2-5. :-(

Don't take this as something evil, but I have wondered since quite some
time what the purpose of these status report mails to the
opensuse-factory list is.

If you think that any of the involved software components - be it YaST,
the kernel package, the bootloader config scripts - misbehaves, file a
bug. That's what Bugzilla is for.

If you need help setting up your system for a particular purpose, try to
state as clearly as possible what you're trying to achieve. I read the
text three times now and it's still not entirely clear to me what this
is all about:

- If you think that a part of the system misbehaves, file a bug
including what has to change: YaST, the kernel, perl-bootloader,
something else... And describe the difference between the actual and the
desired behaviour in such a way that it's understandable without any
knowledge beyond your report.

- If you just want to update your system to something that resembles
what will be openSUSE 10.2 GM, forget about factory now. There's nothing
interesting to see in factory right now.

- If you want to have a special setup, try to find out if it's possible
at all. Last time I checked, the handling of multiple equally named
kernel packages in YaST was just a vision. Don't know if something
changed, but right now I'd say YaST doesn't support that.

In addition, you might want to check whether the old kernel really
disappeared or whether it's just the bootloader entry that was missing.

Note that during a not quite correctly done system upgrade, the _old_
version of YaST and its libaries are running. This means that you might
suffer from bugs that have been fixed long ago. perl-Bootloader and
yast2-bootloader had lots of them. Beta2 is very old.

That's why the recommended upgrade way is booting from the installation
media and choosing the system upgrade option from there. Doing a system
upgrade within the running system means that you'll see and report old,
known and already fixed bugs.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 System Update not too bright

2006-12-02 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/12/02 21:42 (GMT+0100) Andreas Hanke apparently typed:

 Felix Miata schrieb:

 Prior to updating from about beta2 to current factory tree today, I
 downloaded and installed the 2.6.18.2-33-default kernel with rpm -ivh so
 that the previous 2.6.18.2-5 kernel would remain installed. I forgot to
 reboot prior to running System Update, which proceeded to install
 2.6.18.2-33 again, and remove 2.6.18.2-5. :-(

 Don't take this as something evil, but I have wondered since quite some
 time what the purpose of these status report mails to the
 opensuse-factory list is.

When one doesn't know if observed behavior is or is not a bug, one asks
here rather than cluttering bugzilla and its QA people with another
likely invalid bug.

 If you think that any of the involved software components - be it YaST,
 the kernel package, the bootloader config scripts - misbehaves, file a
 bug. That's what Bugzilla is for.

Bugzilla is not for teaching people what program behavior is expected,
which is what happens when somebody files a bug without knowing if the
observed behavior is that way by design. In this case maybe my
forgetting to reboot to engage the new kernel means kernel installation
wasn't actually complete before the update process started - I don't
know, which is a reason why I came here rather than to bugzilla.

 If you need help setting up your system for a particular purpose, try to
 state as clearly as possible what you're trying to achieve. I read the
 text three times now and it's still not entirely clear to me what this
 is all about:

The updater installed software that was already installed, a substantial
unnecessary load on mirrors, and waste of my time waiting for the
unnecessary download from an already slow mirror.

 In addition, you might want to check whether the old kernel really
 disappeared or whether it's just the bootloader entry that was missing.

I checked. It was removed from /boot and /lib/modules, besides the boot
menu. That's how I know.

 Note that during a not quite correctly done system upgrade, the _old_
 version of YaST and its libaries are running. This means that you might
 suffer from bugs that have been fixed long ago. perl-Bootloader and
 yast2-bootloader had lots of them. Beta2 is very old.

Beta2 was actually a guess. I don't think the install was more than 3
weeks old, which, like virtually all my installs, was via ftp. The
possibility of already fixed bugs is another reason for coming here
rather than filing a bug. The kernel upgrade I did manually required
perl-Bootloader be upgraded first, which I did manually as well.

 That's why the recommended upgrade way is booting from the installation

I don't care what's recommended. I used a method offered. If it's
offered, it needs testing.

 media and choosing the system upgrade option from there. Doing a system
 upgrade within the running system means that you'll see and report old,
 known and already fixed bugs.

I have factory installed on 5 (or 6?) partitions on various hardware
combinations expressly for finding stuff that doesn't install or run as
intended. I don't burn CD's except on rare occasions, starting from an
installation kernel and and initrd downloaded from the mirror
immediately before starting in most cases, so that I don't have to type
in manually answers to the network and source questions every time, or
spend money wasting non-renewable resources.

It's disappointing to find so much reported weeks or months or close to
a year ago in bugzilla that didn't get fixed before 10.2 release state
was achieved. There's one in particular I reported against 10.0 (and
reproduced on at least 4 entirely different systems using 10.0, 10.1 
factory) long before 10.1's first beta that remains unfixed now. I've
lived with it on my 24/7 box nearly a year now. Likely that box will see
10.0 replaced with Mandriva 2007 soon in order that I can stop being
constantly annoyed by it.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 System Update not too bright

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Hanke
Felix Miata schrieb:
 The updater installed software that was already installed, a substantial
 unnecessary load on mirrors, and waste of my time waiting for the
 unnecessary download from an already slow mirror.

Now I finally got what it's about: You installed the -33 kernel and YaST
downloaded and installed the same kernel again.

The only way I can imagine this not being a bug is that the rpm -i has
been done while YaST was already running. That way YaST won't notice the
change because it reads the rpmdb on startup and doesn't lock it.

You might want to file a bug about this. Of course you will attach the
logfiles.

 I don't care what's recommended. I used a method offered. If it's
 offered, it needs testing.

It might be disabled at any time then ;-) (Already happened to other
features where it turned out that offering them unsupported doesn't
really work and resulted in more frustration than not offering it at all
would)

 It's disappointing to find so much reported weeks or months or close to
 a year ago in bugzilla that didn't get fixed before 10.2 release state
 was achieved. There's one in particular I reported against 10.0 (and
 reproduced on at least 4 entirely different systems using 10.0, 10.1 
 factory) long before 10.1's first beta that remains unfixed now. I've
 lived with it on my 24/7 box nearly a year now. Likely that box will see
 10.0 replaced with Mandriva 2007 soon in order that I can stop being
 constantly annoyed by it.

A general hint: Posting that to this list without the Bugzilla ID
doesn't really bring the community any further. Writing something like
I'll switch to Mandriva is very demotivating because it basically
means that the bug doesn't need to be fixed because the only user
annoyed by it doesn't use the product anyway. This is very
counter-productive.

You might, instead, try to be cooperative, i.e. show that you're still
interested in the bug being solved by moving it to the next product
and/or trying to fix it yourself and attaching a patch or a pointer into
the right direction. E.g. by looking at source packages of other
distributions where it works, finding out the difference and telling the
assignee about it.

Without knowing the Bugzilla ID, I can unfortunately only guess that the
engineer who is responsible for your bug has a long list of more
important bugs to solve that affect more people and you can't see that
list because the engineers responsible for openSUSE are responsible for
other products as well which are not public.

Might be considered frustrating, but at some point every community
member has to learn that there are bugs which will never be fixed. This
is common to all open source projects. I just tried to find a 2 years
old, unfixed bug in Mandriva's Bugzilla and of course it was a piece of
cake finding one.

Btw. I know that it's about #141443 because it's the only one you have
reported against 10.0 that is still open. In that case it's really
unfortunate, but as long as an engineer is unable to reproduce it, it's
simply impossible to get it fixed.

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] wine and picasa

2006-12-02 Thread Sid Boyce

Kenneth Schneider wrote:

On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 12:24 +1000, Elliott Martin wrote:
I wanted to ask if anyone could take a look at running Google's picasa under 
wine for me. 

The latest windows version used to run fine under 10.1, same with google's rpm 
of the linux version, but now under 10.2 RC1 neither work and I'm not sure if 
it's just here, or if everyone has this problem.




Seems like a problem I am having running anything under wine, in my case
I use CrossOver Office.

Ken

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I'm using crossover-pro-5.0.3 and the few Windows apps I run are OK 
(Word97, IE5, excel, Lotus Notes, Pad2Pad and Batronix Databook), I 
haven't tried the Windows version of Picasa, but Picasa for Linux works 
with 10.2RC1. Picasa for Linux is self-contained and has it's own dll's 
etc., there are also many of the same dll's by name in wine and in 
Crossover Office.
You could try rpm -e picasa followed by rpm -ivh 
picasa-2.2.2820-5.i386.rpm (backup ~/.picasa) to see if that fixes it, 
otherwise, you possibly have a bad symlink somewhere. strace -s 256 -f 
picasa 21|tee PICASA.out, then check PICASA.out to see where it 
complains it can't find something it's searching for or it finds 
something where it shouldn't, like in wine or Crossover.

Any error messages when run from the commandline???
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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 GM

2006-12-02 Thread Sid Boyce

jdd wrote:

Andreas Jaeger a écrit :


Wording is definitely a problem.  GM was done (on the 1st) and it will
be public on the 7th...


so what we now can do is installing from factory, which is GM...

thanks for the good job, Andreas :-)
jdd



Great job all. I think openSUSE has given an insight into what it takes 
to bring a project this size to release. I've seen it from the big iron 
perspective many times and I know the order which comes from total 
chaos, and the satisfaction when it's done - then here we go again.
It's a far healthier situation now we can have a good look at what is 
happening, far better than the old restricted beta method.
BTW, no one has updated bug #222521 and with factory frozen, I hope the 
patch to libzypp will be included in Public - it's the only way I can 
access CD/DVD for packages or add an Installation Source, YOU also can't 
do an update without it. I have the problem on this x86 box and also on 
a 10.1 x86_64 laptop where I changed the CD-RW/DVD drive for a DVD-RW.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] update to RC1 with add on source fails

2006-12-02 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

Am Donnerstag, 30. November 2006 22:23 schrieb Lukas Ocilka:
 Carlos E. R. wrote:
[...]
 See this http://en.opensuse.org/YaST_Tips

Very interesting list, but it seems it's incomplete - I remember there's 
a hotkey for a (more or less) screen saver for example ;-)

It would also be nice if you find some time to explain the options (on 
the wiki page) - for example, I don't know what this macro recorder is 
useful for.


That said: I'd like to request another hotkey (proposal: Shift-F1) 
that displays a box showing all available hotkeys. (Yes, seriously.
You (as a YaST developer) might know all available hotkeys, but most 
people don't know them. And such a list directly available in YaST 
would help a lot.)


Regards,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] GM release

2006-12-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-12-02 at 07:14 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

  My router crashes after seeding 4 or 6 hours. And it runs an embedded
  linux with a 2.4 kernel. So I can't seed much.
 
 Why do you think it is running Linux ? Have you tested it ?

I know. Because it says so itself in the log:

   Nov 27 20:18:09 router klogd: Linux version 2.4.17 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc 
version 3.1) #1  10 7 19:23:37 CST 2005

It uses ipatables, has an ssh server, uses busybox... many clues match.

   Nov 27 20:18:09 router klogd: klogd started: BusyBox v0.60.4 
(2005.10.07-11:27+)


So yes, I'm pretty sure.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Package fails..

2006-12-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-12-02 at 13:38 +0100, Monkey 9 wrote:

  At least, I could use it to have a look at a 10.2 desktop, as my install
  failed ;-)
 
 Note that i have my kickerpanel adjusted to 53 pixels, transparent..

I saw that :-)

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[opensuse-factory] ethereal ???

2006-12-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Where is ethereal on 10.2

Not on the RC1 DVD, not in gwdg SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/.
What happened? Slight oversight?

The openmotif-devel isn't on the DVD, but is in factory inst-source. Is that 
intentional?

Thanks,

Volker
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ethereal ???

2006-12-02 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/12/03 17:00 (GMT+1300) Volker Kuhlmann apparently typed:

 Where is ethereal on 10.2

 Not on the RC1 DVD, not in gwdg SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/.
 What happened? Slight oversight?

Superceded by wireshark.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] wine and picasa

2006-12-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 I'm using crossover-pro-5.0.3 and the few Windows apps I run are OK 
 (Word97, IE5, excel, Lotus Notes, Pad2Pad and Batronix Databook), I 
 haven't tried the Windows version of Picasa, but Picasa for Linux works 
 with 10.2RC1. Picasa for Linux is self-contained and has it's own dll's 
 etc., there are also many of the same dll's by name in wine and in 
 Crossover Office.

On a fresh install of RC1 and picasa, the latter hangs itself with a
couple of segfaults in wine when called from its wrapper script. Lines
56 and 66 in /opt/picasa/bin/picasa. It's obviously its own wine which
segfaults. This on AMD64. Works on 10.1.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-12-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 28 Nov 2006 22:40:26 NZDT +1300, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

 We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
 via online update for 10.2.
 
 Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
 problems.

kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33

The kernel itself seems basically ok. SATA, raid1, USB, SCSI, oh yes
PATA too. AMD64.

lm_sensors works, but the init script always fails on both start and
stop. Smartmontools works fine on PATA but but has a rough time with
either -Son or -oon on SATA - 100% CPU for 3 seconds and some syslog
stuff, but -data -a gives plausible values.

Nvidia driver installs + runs flawlessly, thanks heaps to whoever put up
the instructions for 10.2=alpha4 on the wiki. The nv driver is still
rather limited, not more than 1280x1024 on a DVI monitor.

Xen kernel works, for some definition of works: no nvidia module, dead
on the serial lines, powersaved is no go. Yast does heaps to get this
all running, but puts nonsense into the host's menu.lst so the thing
doesn't boot. Installing RC1 as guest fails to detect any network card,
but adding this manually works. (Need reports for this?) Great project,
but gives an interesting comparison with vmware-server.

RC1 looks really good, would be really good too once heaps more bugs are
squashed. :( Printing worked for 2 pages and then produces white noise
(like pull the antenna off your telly), SCSI scanning only works after
manual command line intervention. Yast's quite buggy unfortunately, but
at least updating itself should now work fine ;)

Happy holidays Andreas, you must be wanting to catch up on sleep now!

Thanks for the great work to all at SUSE. It's much more convincing than 10.1!!
Looking forward to the final.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.2 GM

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Sid Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 jdd wrote:
 Andreas Jaeger a écrit :

 Wording is definitely a problem.  GM was done (on the 1st) and it will
 be public on the 7th...

 so what we now can do is installing from factory, which is GM...

 thanks for the good job, Andreas :-)
 jdd


 Great job all. I think openSUSE has given an insight into what it
 takes to bring a project this size to release. I've seen it from the
 big iron perspective many times and I know the order which comes from
 total chaos, and the satisfaction when it's done - then here we go
 again.
 It's a far healthier situation now we can have a good look at what is
 happening, far better than the old restricted beta method.
 BTW, no one has updated bug #222521 and with factory frozen, I hope
 the patch to libzypp will be included in Public - it's the only way I
 can access CD/DVD for packages or add an Installation Source, YOU also
 can't do an update without it. I have the problem on this x86 box and
 also on a 10.1 x86_64 laptop where I changed the CD-RW/DVD drive for a
 DVD-RW.

This is really strange - but then it shouldn't be just a normal bug.
It wasn't on my radar and will not make it for the final release.

Btw. why do you add yourself to CC of the bug?  As reporter you get
copied already on all emails, adding CC is just a nop for bugzilla.

Andreas
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