Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-12-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Tue 28 Nov 2006 22:40:26 NZDT +1300, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
> 
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.

kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33

The kernel itself seems basically ok. SATA, raid1, USB, SCSI, oh yes
PATA too. AMD64.

lm_sensors works, but the init script always fails on both start and
stop. Smartmontools works fine on PATA but but has a rough time with
either -Son or -oon on SATA - 100% CPU for 3 seconds and some syslog
stuff, but -data -a gives plausible values.

Nvidia driver installs + runs flawlessly, thanks heaps to whoever put up
the instructions for 10.2>=alpha4 on the wiki. The nv driver is still
rather limited, not more than 1280x1024 on a DVI monitor.

Xen kernel works, for some definition of "works": no nvidia module, dead
on the serial lines, powersaved is no go. Yast does heaps to get this
all running, but puts nonsense into the host's menu.lst so the thing
doesn't boot. Installing RC1 as guest fails to detect any network card,
but adding this manually works. (Need reports for this?) Great project,
but gives an interesting comparison with vmware-server.

RC1 looks really good, would be really good too once heaps more bugs are
squashed. :( Printing worked for 2 pages and then produces white noise
(like pull the antenna off your telly), SCSI scanning only works after
manual command line intervention. Yast's quite buggy unfortunately, but
at least updating itself should now work fine ;)

Happy holidays Andreas, you must be wanting to catch up on sleep now!

Thanks for the great work to all at SUSE. It's much more convincing than 10.1!!
Looking forward to the final.

Volker

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Richard Bos schrieb:
> What's the url to use to test this update.  Is it opensuse current, something 
> else?

Any mirror of ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/update/10.2
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 10:40, schreef Andreas Jaeger:
> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
>
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.
>
> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> * Fixes for Xen
>
> Andreas

What's the url to use to test this update.  Is it opensuse current, something 
else?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Christoph Thiel
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 04:55:55PM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Andreas,
> >
> > On Tuesday 28 November 2006 01:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> We just released a new kernel package ...
> >>
> >> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> >> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> >> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> >> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> >
> > What does this DRM stand for? "Digital Rights Management?"
> 
> Direct-Rendering Method (?) - needed for 3D support.

  Direct Rendering Manager - A Linux kernel module that gives direct
  hardware access to DRI clients. [1]


Best,
Christoph

[1] http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
Ok, meantime the patch appeared on the mirror, 4th kernel update is 
selected.
Problem: Estimated download size: 0 B. Not nice. ;-)

The patch is downloading now (it takes some time here).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Randall R Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Andreas,
>
> On Tuesday 28 November 2006 01:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> We just released a new kernel package ...
>>
>> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
>> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
>> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
>> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
>
> What does this DRM stand for? "Digital Rights Management?"

Direct-Rendering Method (?) - needed for 3D support.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Hanke
Randall R Schulz schrieb:
> What does this DRM stand for? "Digital Rights Management?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Manager
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Rendering_Infrastructure
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Keith Goggin
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 02:43, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Keith Goggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Tuesday 28 November 2006 20:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> >> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> >> via online update for 10.2.
> >>
> >> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> >> problems.
> >
> > Installed cleanly in two stages as described using Yast YOU.
>
> And does the kernel work as well?

Yes fine so far. But I haven't done much retesting, time for bed on this side 
of the pond.

> > Potentially a new dimension in testing openSUSE!
>
> A positive or negative one?

Positive but with some slight reservations about discipline in testing :-)
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2006/11/28 10:40 (GMT+0100) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed:

> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.

> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.

> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> * Fixes for Xen

I grabbed it from gwdg.de using mc, and installed rpm -ivh. PIII on
i815. No new problems noted so far. There was a grub related error
message from mkinitrd you can see in "GRUB error - can anyone help
please?" Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:02:37 -0500 post.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Randall R Schulz
Andreas,

On Tuesday 28 November 2006 01:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> We just released a new kernel package ...
>
> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM

What does this DRM stand for? "Digital Rights Management?"


> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> * Fixes for Xen
>
> Andreas


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Keith Goggin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tuesday 28 November 2006 20:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
>> via online update for 10.2.
>>
>> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
>> problems.
>
> Installed cleanly in two stages as described using Yast YOU.

And does the kernel work as well?

>
> Retrieving libzypp...
> Retrieving yast2-qt...
> Retrieving zypper...
> Retrieving yast2-ncurses...
> Retrieving yast2-pkg-bindings...
> Retrieving yast2-perl-bindings...
> Retrieving opensuse-updater...
> Installation finished.
>
> Retrieving 
> kernel-default...Installing ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33.i586.rpm: 
> "The 
> Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor Systems"   OK
> Installation finished.
>
> Potentially a new dimension in testing openSUSE!

A positive or negative one?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Keith Goggin
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 20:40, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
>
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.

Installed cleanly in two stages as described using Yast YOU.

Retrieving libzypp...
Retrieving yast2-qt...
Retrieving zypper...
Retrieving yast2-ncurses...
Retrieving yast2-pkg-bindings...
Retrieving yast2-perl-bindings...
Retrieving opensuse-updater...
Installation finished.

Retrieving 
kernel-default...Installing ./rpm/i586/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33.i586.rpm: 
"The 
Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor Systems"   OK
Installation finished.

Potentially a new dimension in testing openSUSE!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Frank-Michael Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Installation went smoothly, even the sources. Only side problem:
> zen-updater neither showed nor did some component from zmd find the
> update. YaST2 online_update did it.

We had a bug in libzypp-zmd-backend that is fixed now. :-(  I'll
upload new packages soon..

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Richard Bos schreef:
> Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 11:11, schreef Robby (M9.):
>> Andreas Jaeger schreef:
>>> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
>>> via online update for 10.2.
>>>
>>> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
>>> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
>>> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
>>> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
>>> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
>>> * Fixes for Xen
>> I did the install, but nothing was installed, (/boot too small), but
>> there was no fault message..
> 
> Is /boot really too small, or is that miscalculated by yast, see:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222556

In my case /boot is one cylinder too small due to the bigger kernel files..
But i will look at that bug, cause i get other errors about too less
room, where is room enough..

M9.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Richard Bos
Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 11:11, schreef Robby (M9.):
> Andreas Jaeger schreef:
> > We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> > via online update for 10.2.
> >
> > Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> > problems.
> >
> > The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> > * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> > * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> > * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> > * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> > * Fixes for Xen
>
> I did the install, but nothing was installed, (/boot too small), but
> there was no fault message..

Is /boot really too small, or is that miscalculated by yast, see:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=222556


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
>
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.
>
> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> * Fixes for Xen
>
> Andreas
>   

Installation went smoothly, even the sources. Only side problem:
zen-updater neither showed nor did some component from zmd find the
update. YaST2 online_update did it.

After almost a year  of testing, using and switching to other linuxes I
am really beginning to wonder, which client company will make more
profit through this zmd stuff or which private openSUSE user will have a
happier life and family through this monster. Amongst my global company
customers I did not find a single one who would decide in favour of
Linux (not even talking of Novell Linux) because zmd is there. This
stuff is not just imposed onto the community, it's imposed onto
companies as well. It has created the hugest bloat of an operation
system since MVS/VM times. It's by far the least stable component of
openSUSE and guzzles CPU cycles and time off the users and the companies.

Might sound far fetched, but the zmd adventure - being clearly of much
less tragic nature than some civilization exercises in the Middle East -
would also benefit from rethink what we are all doing when wasting time
and resources dealing with one of the most bitter jokes in software
architecture.

Get rid of it and stop throwing good money after bad money. The world
will NOT be a better place thanks to zenworks & Co.

FMF

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 12:35:23PM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:30, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > This is correct. The updater parts are updated first.
> > Then YOU will restart and offer the other 1/2.
> 
> Ineed, it restarted (I just didn't press Close to be able to write down 
> the package names ;-)) and installed the update-test-trivial.
> Still why isthe difference between the number of updated and the number 
> of installed packages? Or an update can mean "update several packages 
> that depend on each other"?

There is a special class of updates, which update the update-stack.
(libzypp , zmd , opensuse-updater etc.).

These are applied before all others, then the update stack is restarted
to apply the rest.

Just to get fixes for the update stack in before a potential bug
with others can happen.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:30, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> This is correct. The updater parts are updated first.
> Then YOU will restart and offer the other 1/2.

Ineed, it restarted (I just didn't press Close to be able to write down 
the package names ;-)) and installed the update-test-trivial.
Still why isthe difference between the number of updated and the number 
of installed packages? Or an update can mean "update several packages 
that depend on each other"?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 12:28:09PM +0200, Andras Mantia wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 November 2006 11:45, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > Its labeled "4th test kernel update" in the patch summary.
> >
> > Since it is just syncing to the mirrors it might take a while to show
> > up on yours ;)
> 
> Yeah, its not here yet, but I tested anyway the update. The KDE update 
> applet said there a 3 updates availanle. In the yast online update it 
> showed that the libzypp update will be installed (in the left part of 
> the GUI), while in the right part summary 8 packages were selected to 
> update (and indeed 8 packages were updated: libzypp, sqlite-zmd, 
> yast2-ncurses, yast2-perl-bindings, past2-pkg-bindings, yast2-qt, 
> zypper, opensuse-updater).
>  Bug or I just misunderstand something?

This is correct. The updater parts are updated first.
Then YOU will restart and offer the other 1/2.
 
> System is an x86_64 bit RC1, updated from mirrors.kernel.org. This was 
> the first and only time I used any update for 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 12:28, Andras Mantia wrote:
> he KDE update
> applet said there a 3 updates availanle.

Forget to say which one were those:
3rd kernel update
libzypp
update-test-trivial

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andras Mantia
On Tuesday 28 November 2006 11:45, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> Its labeled "4th test kernel update" in the patch summary.
>
> Since it is just syncing to the mirrors it might take a while to show
> up on yours ;)

Yeah, its not here yet, but I tested anyway the update. The KDE update 
applet said there a 3 updates availanle. In the yast online update it 
showed that the libzypp update will be installed (in the left part of 
the GUI), while in the right part summary 8 packages were selected to 
update (and indeed 8 packages were updated: libzypp, sqlite-zmd, 
yast2-ncurses, yast2-perl-bindings, past2-pkg-bindings, yast2-qt, 
zypper, opensuse-updater).
 Bug or I just misunderstand something?

System is an x86_64 bit RC1, updated from mirrors.kernel.org. This was 
the first and only time I used any update for 10.2.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Robby (M9.)
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Andreas Jaeger schreef:
> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
>
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.
>
> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> * Fixes for Xen

I did the install, but nothing was installed, (/boot too small), but
there was no fault message..
There was a message that some libxine debs were not found on the server
though

M9.
>
> Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:52:41AM +0100, Stefan Dirsch wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> > 
> > We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> > via online update for 10.2.
> > 
> > Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> > problems.
> > 
> > The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> > * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> 
> Use "sax -r -m 0=i810beta" for configuration of your Intel 965 onboard
> gfx device. For 3D support add ' Load "dri" ' to Modules section of
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf. It has only been tested on a "8086:2982" (965G)
> device, but it should also work with any other 965 device, i.e.
> 
> 8086:2972 (946GZ)
> 8086:2992 (965Q)
> 8086:29a2 (965G)

BTW, feedback would be appreciated.

Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> 
> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
> 
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.
> 
> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM

Use "sax -r -m 0=i810beta" for configuration of your Intel 965 onboard
gfx device. For 3D support add ' Load "dri" ' to Modules section of
/etc/X11/xorg.conf. It has only been tested on a "8086:2982" (965G)
device, but it should also work with any other 965 device, i.e.

8086:2972 (946GZ)
8086:2992 (965Q)
8086:29a2 (965G)

Xgl/compiz does *not* work. You *cannot* configure it with
gnome-xgl-settings and even if you force the configuration it will
*not* work.

Best regards,
Stefan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:40:26AM +0100, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> 
> We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
> via online update for 10.2.
> 
> Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
> problems.
> 
> The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
> * a couple of fixes in the SATA area
> * Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
> * Support for Intel 965 DRM
> * Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
> * Fixes for Xen

Its labeled "4th test kernel update" in the patch summary.

Since it is just syncing to the mirrors it might take a while to show
up on yours ;)

Ciao, Marcus
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[opensuse-factory] Call for testing: New kernel released for 10.2

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger

We just released a new kernel package that contains the latest fixes
via online update for 10.2.

Please install it on your systems and report if you have any new
problems.

The major changes since the RC1 kernel are:
* a couple of fixes in the SATA area
* Disabling of the "This module is unsupported by Novell" warnings
* Support for Intel 965 DRM
* Add acpi_user_timer_override for Asus boards
* Fixes for Xen

Andreas
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