Re: I/O EVENTS

2002-05-21 Thread Greg Moore

 So just looking at v$system_event is dangerous.
 Looking v$system_event and v$sysstat
 is much better but still not perfect. The third
 way is ... (mail me ;-))

Anjo,

Jared has an even hand on the tiller.  Go ahead an post an informative
example of how the v$ views don't allow you to diagnose a specific problem,
and how Precise products do.  We wanna know, and I don't imagine he'll mind.

These little hints, and half sentences that end with an ellipsis, are
getting on my nerves!  ;-)

- Greg

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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread Markus Reger

just to mention:

used Opera to download - Oracle 9.2.0.1.0 - for LINUX, SOLARIS and NT - as we have'm 
all three - there was NO problem. 

kr

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2 of the files downloaded, will be loading it up today,. woohoo, 
 
can anyone say crash and burn, bwahahahahahaha
 
 
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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread Markus Reger

just to mention:

used Opera to download - Oracle 9.2.0.1.0 - for LINUX, SOLARIS and NT - as we have'm 
all three - there was NO problem. 

kr

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2 of the files downloaded, will be loading it up today,. woohoo, 
 
can anyone say crash and burn, bwahahahahahaha
 
 
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RE: How to find current ORACLE_HOME programmatically

2002-05-21 Thread Leeraar, Harold

Hi

you should be able to find it under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE

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Hi, guys.

I need to find current value of ORACLE_HOME on the client from VB program,
running on that client. I understand that it is in the registry somewhere. I
have 2 client installations - one is 8.1.7 and another is 9 on the same
client. Apparently EM from 9 installation knows that needed tsnames.ora is
in 9 ORACLE_HOME and 8.1.7 EM knows that tsnames.ora in 8.1.7. installation.
And my VB program select tsnames.ora from 8.1.7 installation

Any ideas?

Alex Hillman


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Re: TEST

2002-05-21 Thread Joe Testa

you've been ignored, forever

RAJESH DAYAL wrote:

 TESTING ..
 PLS IGNORE .



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patching 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Good morning all,

They are finally going to let me install 8.1.7 and try it on my little
database that hold my recovery catalog and OEM repository.  I would like to
know if I will have to apply a patch before using it.

We are on AIX 4.3.3.


Thanks in advance,
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How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Joe LaCascio


Hi folks:

I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC Alpha 800, one of the
steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database that the IAS will work
with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha 4100, the TEST
database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says to use dbassist to
turn on Java.

Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database configuration
selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops up, stays blank and
nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the blank window.  After 10
minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this with the database down,
and dbassist opens the database.  I've tried it with the TEST database up
in restricted and still same thing.

Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a script?

Thanks,
Joe

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ORA-2085

2002-05-21 Thread John Weatherman

Hi all.

I have recently had to enable global_names in order to set up a 
replicated environment.  The application uses a database link to 
reconnect to the database under a differant user id (I inheirited 
this, I had nothing to do with the design!).  Appearantly, 
global_names has a prblem with this...

SQL  select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-02085: database link DONOT_TRIGGER.WORLD connects to DRL2.WORLD

SQL !oerr ORA 2085
02085, 0, database link %s connects to %s
// *Cause: a database link connected to a database with a different name.
//  The connection is rejected.
// *Action: create a database link with the same name as the database it
//  connects to, or set global_names=false.

So, does anybody have any work arounds or ideas how I can get this
thing working again?

TIA,

John P Weatherman
Database Administrator
Replacements Ltd.
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Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

2002-05-21 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



All,

Anyone can point me 
in the direction of some excellent books re. the setup/admin/tuning of Oracle on 
NT in specific. I could google it but theres nothing better than personal 
recommendations.

It would appear 
wehave a(nother !!)major client here who requires an Oracle/NT 
solution and although the first one was relatively small and easy to set 
up (purely for reporting), this one could potentially be a lot bigger and will 
use OLTP and batch type processing, therefore an all singing, all dancing 
database/setup will be needed.

Regards

Lee


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Re: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread paquette stephane

You can installed java with scripts.
Check metalink note 156477.1

Use more space (10-20M more )than specified on the
note for java_pool_size and shared_pool 


 --- Joe LaCascio [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : 

 Hi folks:
 
 I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC
 Alpha 800, one of the
 steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database
 that the IAS will work
 with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha
 4100, the TEST
 database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says
 to use dbassist to
 turn on Java.
 
 Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database
 configuration
 selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops
 up, stays blank and
 nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the
 blank window.  After 10
 minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this
 with the database down,
 and dbassist opens the database.  I've tried it with
 the TEST database up
 in restricted and still same thing.
 
 Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a
 script?
 
 Thanks,
 Joe
 
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RE: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I believe those check boxes are required by US export laws.  Granted, it
won't stop someone from those countries from downloading the software, but
then I believe Oracle is not liable.

And yes...seemingly pointless...

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On Mon, 20 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 as wget no longer works with -http-user and -http-password from this site.

 So, you get to do it from a browser.  What fun.

Yeah, I just noticed that too.  Gotta make sure you're not from Cuba,
Sudan, Iraq, Libya, NKorea, or Syria.  Then again, what's to stop someone
from any of those places lying on the license.  Seemingly pointless...

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RE: What makes Export slow ?

2002-05-21 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

Using a large buffer size allows more data to be written via export (a C
Program) from the database to a file.  The buffer specifies the size of each
write to the database.

Direct=Y was added in Oracle7 and allows export to bypass the SQL
communication layer and write data from the database to the export file.
Generally this is used to speed up exports, however, there have been issues
with constraints, etc.

Large rollback segment option can only be used if you can really assure that
no one is using the database and you can disable all other rollback
segments.  Otherwise, this option is useless.

Thank You

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On Mon, 20 May 2002, Reddy, Madhusudana wrote:

 Huge Buffer, commit=y, direct=y, assigning the big rollback segment
 should help you to have faster export ,

What do you mean assigning the big rollback segment?  How do you do
that to an export and what does it accomplish?

What does COMMIT=Y do in an export?

If I were the original poster, I'd just look at v$session_event for
the export session after several minutes of slowness.

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 I moved my database from Solaris 7 to Solaris 8 box (Sun Fire 4800, faster
 processors and more memory space)
 
 I create the database with the same script that I used to for my database
in
 the older machine,
 
 When I export my database from the older machine it was very fast and when
I
 import to newer machine it was fast too, 
 
 and when I export from new machine it is really slow (very slow), (I am
 using same export parameters in both servers)
 Can someone help with tuning tips or anything you have... : (
 
 
 - The no of records are the same for both machines
 - v$session_wait.seconds_in_wait is more than 1

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RE: patching 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

I have patched up to 8.1.7.3 (on Tru64) but there quite a few noises coming
from this list to say that this release is buggy and therefore I should have
stopped at 8.1.7.2.

HTH

Lee



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Good morning all,

They are finally going to let me install 8.1.7 and try it on my little
database that hold my recovery catalog and OEM repository.  I would like to
know if I will have to apply a patch before using it.

We are on AIX 4.3.3.


Thanks in advance,
Ruth

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RE: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Joe,

Log on to your server, and change your directory to :

ORACLE_HOME/JAVAVM/INSTALL

Start up Sqlplus, connecting as SYS and run the INITJVM.SQL file.

Be sure hat Java_Pool_Size  = 52428800 
is in your init.ora file.

This takes about 20 minutes to complete.  This will install the Java engine
within the database.

Hope this helps

Tom Mercadante
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Hi folks:

I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC Alpha 800, one of the
steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database that the IAS will work
with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha 4100, the TEST
database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says to use dbassist to
turn on Java.

Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database configuration
selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops up, stays blank and
nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the blank window.  After 10
minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this with the database down,
and dbassist opens the database.  I've tried it with the TEST database up
in restricted and still same thing.

Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a script?

Thanks,
Joe

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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread csp2201

Hi,

Were you able to untar and use the cpio command to extract the binaries successfully 
for Linux without any problems?  Because, I was able to sucessfully download all the 
three files, but I was getting an error Unexpected end of file when using hte cpio 
command.

Regards
CP

Markus Reger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

just to mention:

used Opera to download - Oracle 9.2.0.1.0 - for LINUX, SOLARIS and NT - as we have'm 
all three - there was NO problem.

kr

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So, you get to do it from a browser.  What fun.

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2 of the files downloaded, will be loading it up today,. woohoo,

can anyone say crash and burn, bwahahahahahaha


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Outstanding bugs in 8.1.7.2

2002-05-21 Thread Cherie_Machler


I've been hunting around OTN and can't remember where to find this.

I'd like to see a list of all outstanding bugs that are present in version
8.1.7.2 of EE.   Is there one convenient place to find these or am I going
to have to compile a list from multiple other versions.

Thanks,

Cherie Machler
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PLS-00553

2002-05-21 Thread John Dunn

Can anyone tell me what this PL/SQL error actually means?

The manual says

An unrecognised name appears in the character set specification

John

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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael

nothing stops anyone from lying... but it's CYA on Oracle's part, they
ASKED

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Re: Export problem

2002-05-21 Thread bill thater

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 EXP-8: ORACLE error 942 encountered
 ORA-00942: Tabelle oder View nicht vorhanden
 EXP-00024: Export views not installed, please notify your DBA
 EXP-0: Export terminated unsuccessfully
 
 But why am I getting these error messges? What scripts need to be run to 
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RE: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread Hately Mike

Pointless until someone sues Oracle for allowing those products to be freely
downloaded to a restricted country. It's free software and you're being
asked to click in 4 check boxes. It's a tough life.

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I believe those check boxes are required by US export laws.  Granted, it
won't stop someone from those countries from downloading the software, but
then I believe Oracle is not liable.

And yes...seemingly pointless...

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Re: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Rick_Cale


Hi Joe,

I think you need to run the following from the sys account

/javavm/install/initjvm.sql -- setup database for running Hava and the ORB
/rdbms/admin/initplsj.sql  -- initializes java libraries for pl/sql

There may be other scripts depending on your needs but I think these you
must run.

System requirements (these are just recommendations)

SHARED_POOL_SIZE = 65 MB
JAVA_POOL_SIZE  = 50 mb
50 MB free in the system tablespace
250 MB of rollback segment space

Rick


   

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I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC Alpha 800, one of the
steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database that the IAS will work
with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha 4100, the TEST
database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says to use dbassist to
turn on Java.

Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database configuration
selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops up, stays blank and
nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the blank window.  After 10
minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this with the database down,
and dbassist opens the database.  I've tried it with the TEST database up
in restricted and still same thing.

Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a script?

Thanks,
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Re: patching 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Ruth Gramolini

I just talked to OWS and they suggested to read the patch notes and if I
need any of the fixes and if not, just install and don't patch until I have
to.

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 I have patched up to 8.1.7.3 (on Tru64) but there quite a few noises
coming
 from this list to say that this release is buggy and therefore I should
have
 stopped at 8.1.7.2.

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 Good morning all,

 They are finally going to let me install 8.1.7 and try it on my little
 database that hold my recovery catalog and OEM repository.  I would like
to
 know if I will have to apply a patch before using it.

 We are on AIX 4.3.3.


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RE: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Rodrigues, Bryan

Hi Joe,

Check out oracle document note:156477.1 JVM installation on 8.1.7 for
details.

Bryan

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Hi Joe,

I think you need to run the following from the sys account

/javavm/install/initjvm.sql -- setup database for running Hava and the ORB
/rdbms/admin/initplsj.sql  -- initializes java libraries for pl/sql

There may be other scripts depending on your needs but I think these you
must run.

System requirements (these are just recommendations)

SHARED_POOL_SIZE = 65 MB
JAVA_POOL_SIZE  = 50 mb
50 MB free in the system tablespace
250 MB of rollback segment space

Rick


 

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Hi folks:

I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC Alpha 800, one of the
steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database that the IAS will work
with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha 4100, the TEST
database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says to use dbassist to
turn on Java.

Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database configuration
selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops up, stays blank and
nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the blank window.  After 10
minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this with the database down,
and dbassist opens the database.  I've tried it with the TEST database up
in restricted and still same thing.

Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a script?

Thanks,
Joe

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RE: Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

2002-05-21 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Thanks Rachel, this will be (for this year anyway) on Oracle 8 (not even 8i,
don't ask !!!)

Regards

Lee


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Oracle Press has two...

Oracle9i for Windows(R) Handbook by Velpuri (should be good)

and 
Oracle9i for Windows(R) 2000 Tips  Techniques by Sale, Jesse  ??

you can get a table of contents and sample chapter on the site:

http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/oraclepress/ (then click on Server
Technologies)

--- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All,
  
 Anyone can point me in the direction of some excellent books re. the
 setup/admin/tuning of Oracle on NT in specific. I could google it but
 theres
 nothing better than personal recommendations.
  
 It would appear we have a(nother !!) major client here who requires
 an
 Oracle/NT  solution and although the first one was relatively small
 and easy
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Re: 9i r2

2002-05-21 Thread Tim Gorman

Have you had these bags under your control since you packed them?  Has
anyone unknown to you asked you to carry anything on this flight?

...same situation...

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 I believe those check boxes are required by US export laws.  Granted, it
 won't stop someone from those countries from downloading the software, but
 then I believe Oracle is not liable.

 And yes...seemingly pointless...

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Re: ORA-2085

2002-05-21 Thread Tim Gorman

I think that this is one of the few Oracle error messages where the
suggested action truly represents the solution.  Far more helpful than
Contact your Oracle Representative...  :-)

This might be a long shot, however...

SQL create synonym [EMAIL PROTECTED] for sys.dual;

Synonym created.

SQL select count(*) from [EMAIL PROTECTED];

  COUNT(*)
--
 1

SQL select count(*) from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
select count(*) from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-02019: connection description for remote database not found

Naturally, you would not make the synonym reference SYS.DUAL, but
DUAL@db-name instead, to avoid the ORA-02085 error and keep GLOBAL_NAMES
enabled...

Of course, this might mean changes to the application if you have to add
quotation marks around each reference to a table or view, which is what I
imagine you are trying to avoid.  However, you might be in luck if this
application is accessing Oracle via Oracle's own ODBC drivers.  By a stroke
of luck, the Oracle ODBC drivers (downloadable from otn.oracle.com) tend
to wrap the names of all objects within quotation marks, at least in my
limited experience...

Hey, it might be worth a look-see.  Sometimes you just get lucky...

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 Hi all.

 I have recently had to enable global_names in order to set up a
 replicated environment.  The application uses a database link to
 reconnect to the database under a differant user id (I inheirited
 this, I had nothing to do with the design!).  Appearantly,
 global_names has a prblem with this...

 SQL  select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-02085: database link DONOT_TRIGGER.WORLD connects to DRL2.WORLD

 SQL !oerr ORA 2085
 02085, 0, database link %s connects to %s
 // *Cause: a database link connected to a database with a different name.
 //  The connection is rejected.
 // *Action: create a database link with the same name as the database it
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 So, does anybody have any work arounds or ideas how I can get this
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 TIA,

 John P Weatherman
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RE: Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

2002-05-21 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe



Do'h. 
Just shows how much notice/interest I have in the subject. I have just picked up 
my copy (apologies Gaja/Kirti) and went straight to the stuff you are talking 
about.

Thanks 
to all for the help thus far. I will make more use of my existing library set 
before bothering you good people so quickly in future.

I will 
have a thinklater in the weekabout your last line :-)

Cheers

Lee


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Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

  Oracle Performance Tuning 101 has NT and unix 
  specific info in it. Most publications are geared to NT. I hate to 
  say it but about the best one is in the FM. In the Oracle for NT docs is 
  the Oracle Administrators Guide for NT.
  Waiting for your next recipe. 
  :o)
  
  Dave
  
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All,

Anyone can point 
me in the direction of some excellent books re. the setup/admin/tuning of 
Oracle on NT in specific. I could google it but theres nothing better than 
personal recommendations.

It would appear 
wehave a(nother !!)major client here who requires an Oracle/NT 
solution and although the first one was relatively small and easy to 
set up (purely for reporting), this one could potentially be a lot bigger 
and will use OLTP and batch type processing, therefore an all singing, all 
dancing database/setup will be needed.

Regards

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Re: Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas Day


The question of Oracle and NT came up before.  I had some papers (not mine)
that I'd downloaded to my hard drive so I posted them where people could
find them.  This doesn't answer your question exactly and I'm not sure how
useful the papers were to other people but they have been useful to me.  I
emphasize that these are not my work but the work of the authors whose
names appear on the
papers.  I had three papers that pertain to Oracle and NT.  They are at:


This is about Oracle 9 on NT/2000
http://www.msnusers.com/torac/Documents/SQL-Ora/Maximizing%20Productivity%20.doc



This is about Oracle 8 on NT
http://www.msnusers.com/torac/Documents/SQL%2DOra/Oracle8%20on%20NT%2Edoc

This is a pdf about configuration standards for Oracle on NT
http://www.msnusers.com/torac/Documents/SQL%2DOra%2FORACLE%5FNT%5FCONFIG.pdf



If you don't have hotmail userids I have also uploaded them to

http://www.geocities.com/tomdaytwo/MaximizingProductivity.htm
http://www.geocities.com/tomdaytwo/Oracle8onNT.htm
http://www.geocities.com/tomdaytwo/ORACLE_NT_CONFIG.pdf

You should be able to find them at one place or the other.



   

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Anyone can point me  in the direction of some excellent books re. the
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theres nothing better than personal  recommendations.

It would appear  we have a(nother !!) major client here who requires an
Oracle/NT   solution and although the first one was relatively small and
easy to set  up (purely for reporting), this one could potentially be a lot
bigger and will  use OLTP and batch type processing, therefore an all
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Regards

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Restoring archivelogs through RMAN

2002-05-21 Thread Belinda Taylor

In running RMAN and restoring a database, the necessary archivelogs are
not restored. I found that they have to be restored separately, unless
its something we are doing incorrectly. My question is, I have attempted
to use the 'restore archivelog like 'PROD_1_2%' but it fails with
RMAN-06004: ORACLE error from recovery catalog database: RMAN-20242:
specification does not match any archivelog in the recovery catalog

What am I doing wrong? Only the 'restore archivelog all' seems to work,
but I get back more than I need. Thanks in advance.



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RE: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Joe LaCascio


I don't have an account with metalink, and I can't get to this article on
technet.  Anyplace else to get this.  Also, I'm trying to do this in
8.1.6.

Thanks,
Joe

On Tue, 21 May 2002, Rodrigues, Bryan wrote:

 Hi Joe,

 Check out oracle document note:156477.1 JVM installation on 8.1.7 for
 details.

 Bryan

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 Hi Joe,

 I think you need to run the following from the sys account

 /javavm/install/initjvm.sql -- setup database for running Hava and the ORB
 /rdbms/admin/initplsj.sql  -- initializes java libraries for pl/sql

 There may be other scripts depending on your needs but I think these you
 must run.

 System requirements (these are just recommendations)

 SHARED_POOL_SIZE = 65 MB
 JAVA_POOL_SIZE  = 50 mb
 50 MB free in the system tablespace
 250 MB of rollback segment space

 Rick




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 Hi folks:

 I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC Alpha 800, one of the
 steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database that the IAS will work
 with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha 4100, the TEST
 database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says to use dbassist to
 turn on Java.

 Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database configuration
 selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops up, stays blank and
 nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the blank window.  After 10
 minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this with the database down,
 and dbassist opens the database.  I've tried it with the TEST database up
 in restricted and still same thing.

 Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a script?

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init.ora params for quick i/0

2002-05-21 Thread Mohammed . Ahsanuddin

Hello,

We have implemented quick i/o on a sun server running solaris 8 and Oracle
8173. I have set disk_asynch to true. I have verified using truss that dbwr
is making kaio calls. Is there anything I am missing on the db side to make
proper use of quick i/o ?

Also, I am noticing heavy I/O related waits for a process (db file
sequential read, db file parallel write etc..) and would like to involve our
sys admin in tuning this particular process..If anyone has any idea what I
can specifically ask the sys admin to look at, please do let me know..

I really appreciate any feedback I could get..

Thanks

Mohammed Ahsanuddin
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RE: ORA-2085

2002-05-21 Thread John Weatherman

Yes, I inherited this, and I am setting up Multimaster
Advanced Replication, setting global_names=false isn't an
option.  I have suggested moving the donotfiretrigger logic
into the trigger, which has some initial support.  For the
moment, we are changing the code to point to a link with the
same name as the service name (which has obvious limitations,
so hopefully a real fix will get done).

I was really hoping there might be another workaround bandaid
though, as I really don't want the fix to end up permanent.

Thanks,

John P Weatherman
Database Administrator
Replacements Ltd.



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My guess is that you inherited an environment
where the DB-Link was setup that way [link-name different
from DB-name] . and then, sometime later,
you set GLOBAL_NAMES=TRUE

Well you have no choice :
// *Action: create a database link with the same name as the database it
 //  connects to, or set global_names=false.

Are you setting up Advanced Replication [MultiMaster]
or Simple Replication [Snapshots] ?  I believe that
Simple Replication does not mandate GLOBAL_NAMES=TRUE.


Hemant K Chitale

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 Hi all.
 
 I have recently had to enable global_names in order to set up a 
 replicated environment.  The application uses a database link to 
 reconnect to the database under a differant user id (I inheirited 
 this, I had nothing to do with the design!).  Appearantly, 
 global_names has a prblem with this...
 
 SQL  select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 select * from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-02085: database link DONOT_TRIGGER.WORLD connects to DRL2.WORLD
 
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 02085, 0, database link %s connects to %s
 // *Cause: a database link connected to a database with a different name.
 //  The connection is rejected.
 // *Action: create a database link with the same name as the database it
 //  connects to, or set global_names=false.
 
 So, does anybody have any work arounds or ideas how I can get this
 thing working again?
 
 TIA,
 
 John P Weatherman
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Re: SHARED POOL SIZE

2002-05-21 Thread Hemant K Chitale


NO, THERE IS NO WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE
WITHOUT SHUT DOWN (sic) THE DATABASE below 9i.

Please don't use All-Caps.  I remember the first time I used
All-Caps on a NewsGroup about 7 or 8 years ago, I was roundly
berated.

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 HI,

 IS THERE ANY WAY TO INCREASE THE SHARED_POOL_SIZE WITHOUT SHUT DOWN THE
 DATABASE(8.1.6.2 ON SUN SOLARIS)



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How to populate many-to-many

2002-05-21 Thread dmeng

I am designing a database our software/hardware inventory and there is a
many-to-many relationship between  'server' and 'software' table. So I
created an association table between them to resolve this. While I believe
this is the right thing to do, I am wondering how we are going to populate
this association table.
It seems to me that we have to create a separate screen for this table to
have the users manually enter the data. Right now this table has only three
columns - ( server_software_id, server_id, software_id ).
Bonus question - if we are going to use Access to manually enter data, is
there any way we can avoid entering the raw numbers ( the association table
columns are all numeric ). I remember with Oracle Forms you can set up some
kind of drop down list where you pick the text value and the ids get
populated behind the scene. I am not a fan of Access, can we do something
similar?

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications Corp.

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RE: Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

2002-05-21 Thread Farnsworth, Dave



Oracle 
Performance Tuning 101 has NT and unix specific info in it. Most 
publications are geared to NT. I hate to say it but about the best one is 
in the FM. In the Oracle for NT docs is the Oracle Administrators Guide 
for NT.
Waiting for your next recipe. 
:o)

Dave

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  All,
  
  Anyone can point 
  me in the direction of some excellent books re. the setup/admin/tuning of 
  Oracle on NT in specific. I could google it but theres nothing better than 
  personal recommendations.
  
  It would appear 
  wehave a(nother !!)major client here who requires an Oracle/NT 
  solution and although the first one was relatively small and easy to set 
  up (purely for reporting), this one could potentially be a lot bigger and will 
  use OLTP and batch type processing, therefore an all singing, all dancing 
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RE: Statspack Problem

2002-05-21 Thread Tom Schruefer



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 Have you connected via BEQ or Net8 initially?
 Have you got oracle_sid set as an environment variable, as it
 looks like the connect perfstat/perfstat uses a BEQ connection.


It does not look as though the SID_NAME parameter was set on the system I
was trying to install too.  Although it was set on my test system, maybe
thats why it worked in test but not production.

Anyway, I am off to try again.  Thanks for the idea.

 After connecting as sys, can you now do a connect
 perfstat/perfstat (though maybe the scripts cleaned up on error
 and deleted the perfstat user.


Yes, I can login as 'perfstat', and any other user as well, it looks like
the script was able to create the user.


 HTH,
 Bruce Reardon

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 Sent: Tuesday, 21 May 2002 11:39

 I am running 8.1.6 on a Win2000 SP2 machine.

 When I try running 'statscre.sql' as SYS, the first script completes fine,
 but when the second script tries to connect perfstat/perfstat , I get the
 error, You are no longer connected to Oracle TNS:ORA-12154.  Of
 course the
 system then proceeds to attempt to run the other two scripts
 returning about
 a hundred not connected error messages.

 The Perfstat user was created and I did not have the chance to
 intervene and
 change its password.  Any ideas as to why the script would fail
 to connect?

 I connected as internal in the first place to run the script, so I don't
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RE: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Joe LaCascio


Thanks for the help folks.  We are moving along with our IAS install
now.

It's funny, I've been using the command line with Oracle for so long, I
didn't know that dbassist was even there.  And once again, the GUI failed
where good ole SQL prompt resolved the problem.

Thanks,
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Re: Restoring archivelogs through RMAN

2002-05-21 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Here is the corrent syntax:
restore archivelog from logseq  until logseq  thread 1;

You have to specify from logseq ...unt8il logseq even if you only want to
restore 1 logfile.

An easier way would be:
restore logfile all;

This will get any archivelogs in the backupset.

HTH,
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 In running RMAN and restoring a database, the necessary archivelogs are
 not restored. I found that they have to be restored separately, unless
 its something we are doing incorrectly. My question is, I have attempted
 to use the 'restore archivelog like 'PROD_1_2%' but it fails with
 RMAN-06004: ORACLE error from recovery catalog database: RMAN-20242:
 specification does not match any archivelog in the recovery catalog

 What am I doing wrong? Only the 'restore archivelog all' seems to work,
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ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN

2002-05-21 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: SQL Server to Oracle DB



Anyone 
using this and if so, do you know of a way to verify that the password is 
actually being encrypted?

Thanks.


RE: SQL*Plus and DBMS_OUTPUT won't display extended charset?

2002-05-21 Thread Jesse, Rich

Yup, as I mentioned in the export... statement, it is.

Looks like an iTAR... sigh

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: SQL*Plus and DBMS_OUTPUT won't display extended charset?
 
 
 I'm not 100% sure, but don't you also have to set those NLS 
 parms on your
 client???
 
 Chris
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:28 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Oracle 8.1.7.2.0
 HP/UX 11.0
 DB was converted from USASCII7 to UTF8
 NLS_CHARACTERSET and NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET are both UTF8 in DB.
 export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.UTF8 in client environment 
 (Korn shell).
 
 In SVRMGRL on the DB server, when I SELECT CHR(200) FROM 
 DUAL, I get the
 character displayed properly (Latin capital E with grave 
 accent).  In
 SQL*Plus, however, the character does not appear.  Also, when I use
 DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE to dump CHR(200) to the screen in either 
 Server Manager
 or SQL*Plus, nothing shows up.
 
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RE: Korn Shell Sqlplus

2002-05-21 Thread Jesse, Rich

According to Oracle Support, in 8.1.6, this can cause processes and locks of
the KILLed sessions to hang.  And we've seen it.  Even after 24 hours, the
processes are still listed in V$SESSION, but they have no corresponding
entry in V$PROCESS.  At this point, the only fix is to bounce the instance.

Yes, I don't like killing the processes server-side, either, but in this
case we don't have a choice.  Also, I haven't been able to find a Metaclink
article on when this is supposedly fixed.  It doesn't matter because our
3rd-party software vendor won't support anything but 8.1.6.0.0.  sigh

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   Killing Oracle server processes is definitely bad manners. 
 Especially
 if you are using MTS. Even if you are not, the proper way to kill an
 Oracle process is to use ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION. I think that you
 should use the DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO package to set something 
 like 'Hey!
 Shoot me!' in your CLIENT_INFO column in V$PROCESS - it would make it
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   Another thing that you might want to explore are profiles - you can
 define and set a profile with limits to suit your needs, and 
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host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: host from SQL prompt





How can I prevent users from typing host to get to an OS prompt while logged
into a DB account with an OS account? They can host to a prompt now, but they
can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only thing in their
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the host command
all together.


TIA!





RE: Outstanding bugs in 8.1.7.2

2002-05-21 Thread Jesse, Rich

A good start would be to get the list of fixes in the README of the 8.1.7.3
bundle for your platform, but I don't know of any comprehensive list.  If
you find one, let me know!

GL!

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 I've been hunting around OTN and can't remember where to find this.
 
 I'd like to see a list of all outstanding bugs that are 
 present in version
 8.1.7.2 of EE.   Is there one convenient place to find these 
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Re: Oracle on (Ssshhh NT)

2002-05-21 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Lee,

I am in the same boat...although I am going to be allowed to install 8.1.7
and use it for my own stuff.  Our hired gums(consultants) won't let us more
without permission.

Take heart,
ruth
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 Thanks Rachel, this will be (for this year anyway) on Oracle 8 (not even
8i,
 don't ask !!!)

 Regards

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 Oracle Press has two...

 Oracle9i for Windows(R) Handbook by Velpuri (should be good)

 and
 Oracle9i for Windows(R) 2000 Tips  Techniques by Sale, Jesse  ??

 you can get a table of contents and sample chapter on the site:

 http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/oraclepress/ (then click on Server
 Technologies)

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  Anyone can point me in the direction of some excellent books re. the
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  theres
  nothing better than personal recommendations.
 
  It would appear we have a(nother !!) major client here who requires
  an
  Oracle/NT  solution and although the first one was relatively small
  and easy
  to set up (purely for reporting), this one could potentially be a lot
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Re: host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas Day


Are they telnetting in to your server and then running SQLPlus at the
command prompt or are they running SQLPlus from their client and connecting
via SQLNet?

If the first, then host will not give them anything that they won't get
from the telnet session.

If the second, they they'll most likely end up at the ORACLE_HOME\bin
prompt of their workstation.

Are your users really just trained monkeys in disguise and you don't want
them to try to recreate the works of Shakespear via random keystrokes?
What's the real issue here?



   

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How can I prevent users from typing host to get to an OS prompt while
logged
into a DB account with an OS account?  They can host to a prompt now, but
they
can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only thing
in their
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the host
command
all together.

TIA!




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UPDATE Results

2002-05-21 Thread Burton, Laura L.
Title: UPDATE Results





Is there a way to access 'something' that would denote if any rows were updated?

Feedback lets you set up how many rows will be effected before a count is returned, but WHERE is this number coming from? 

I have found a 'Returning' clause of the update statement, but I don't really want a value returned, just how many rows were affected.



We have a situation where we want to know if an update statement actually updated any rows or in fact did not find a row that met the condition. SqlPlus will return '0 rows updated.' Does anyone know where 0 is coming from?

Thanks you for your help.

Laura




Re: ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN

2002-05-21 Thread bill thater

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 Anyone using this and if so, do you know of a way to verify that the 
 password is actually being encrypted?
 
  
 
 Thanks.
 

seems like you could put a sniffer on it and watch the data flow by.


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RE: How to populate many-to-many

2002-05-21 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: How to populate many-to-many






Dennis,


M2M's are ugly but a fact of life. I've done what you have suggested. I suggest that you make the combination of server_id and software_id a unique constraint to keep out dupes.

In Access drop down lists are called combo boxes. You can base them on queries. Just make sure the server_id and software_id fields are first in their respective select statements that populate each of the two combo boxes. The actual verbiage should be in the second fields of these queries. If you want to show the verbiage instead of the id number, make the Column Count 2, Bound Column 1, and make the Column Widths something like 0; 2. Making the first column zero hides the id numbers.

HTH,


Jerry Whittle

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


I am designing a database our software/hardware inventory and there is a

many-to-many relationship between 'server' and 'software' table. So I

created an association table between them to resolve this. While I believe

this is the right thing to do, I am wondering how we are going to populate

this association table.

It seems to me that we have to create a separate screen for this table to

have the users manually enter the data. Right now this table has only three

columns - ( server_software_id, server_id, software_id ).

Bonus question - if we are going to use Access to manually enter data, is

there any way we can avoid entering the raw numbers ( the association table

columns are all numeric ). I remember with Oracle Forms you can set up some

kind of drop down list where you pick the text value and the ids get

populated behind the scene. I am not a fan of Access, can we do something

similar?


TIA


Dennis Meng

Database Administrator

Focal Communications Corp.





RE: host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Title: host from SQL prompt









Disable the command from the product profile by
adding a row to table PRODUCT_PROFILE.



Thank
You



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How can I prevent users from typing
host to get to an OS prompt while logged 
into a DB account with an OS account? They can host to a
prompt now, but they 
can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the
only thing in their 
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of
the host command 
all together. 

TIA! 










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RE: UPDATE Results

2002-05-21 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: UPDATE Results



using sql%rowcount innediately after update statement will give you that 
value.

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  UPDATE Results
  Is there a way to 
  access 'something' that would denote if any rows were updated?
  Feedback lets you set up how many rows 
  will be effected before a count is returned, but WHERE is this number coming 
  from? 
  I have found a 'Returning' clause of the update statement, but I 
  don't really 
  want a value returned, just how many rows were 
  affected.
  
  We have a situation where we want to know if an update statement 
  actually updated any rows or in fact did not find a row that met the 
  condition. SqlPlus will return '0 rows updated.' Does anyone know 
  where 0 is coming from?
  Thanks you for your help.
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RE: Outstanding bugs in 8.1.7.2

2002-05-21 Thread Cherie_Machler


Is there anyway to download the readme file without downloading the whole
product set for 8.1.7.3?

Thanks,

Cherie


   
   
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A good start would be to get the list of fixes in the README of the 8.1.7.3
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you find one, let me know!

GL!

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RE: How to populate many-to-many

2002-05-21 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

I would follow the exact approach that Forms gives you with drop down lists.
You would then have the actual table fields filled in with background/hidden
fields within the application.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:How to populate many-to-many

I am designing a database our software/hardware inventory and there is a
many-to-many relationship between  'server' and 'software' table. So I
created an association table between them to resolve this. While I believe
this is the right thing to do, I am wondering how we are going to populate
this association table.
It seems to me that we have to create a separate screen for this table to
have the users manually enter the data. Right now this table has only three
columns - ( server_software_id, server_id, software_id ).
Bonus question - if we are going to use Access to manually enter data, is
there any way we can avoid entering the raw numbers ( the association table
columns are all numeric ). I remember with Oracle Forms you can set up some
kind of drop down list where you pick the text value and the ids get
populated behind the scene. I am not a fan of Access, can we do something
similar?

TIA

Dennis Meng
Database Administrator
Focal Communications Corp.

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RE: host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

See the following link
 
http://soi3.mmtel.ru/books/oracle8-how-to/chap1_11.html
http://soi3.mmtel.ru/books/oracle8-how-to/chap1_11.html 
 
which gives some details on using product_user_profile.  I'm assuming it'll
be the same for higher versions.
 
Iain Nicoll

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How can I prevent users from typing host to get to an OS prompt while
logged 
into a DB account with an OS account?  They can host to a prompt now, but
they 
can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only thing in
their 
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the host
command 
all together. 

TIA! 

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PLS-908

2002-05-21 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

Can't see anything on metalink regarding this error over a database link.
We have an 8.1.6 database trying to execute a package on a 7.3.2.3 database
and it's giving the following error.

Any solution other than upgrade?

ORA-04052: error occurred when looking up remote object
TEST1.TEST_PKG@SANDBOX
ORA-06541: PL/SQL: compilation error - compilation aborted
ORA-06553: PLS-908: The stored format of TEST1.TEST_PKG@SANDBOX is not
supported by this release


TIA

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RE: UPDATE Results

2002-05-21 Thread Burton, Laura L.
Title: UPDATE Results









Thank you.
This worked great!!



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using sql%rowcount innediately after update statement will give you
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Subject: UPDATE Results

Is there a way to access 'something' that
would denote if any rows were updated?

Feedback lets you set up how many rows will be
effected before a count is returned, but WHERE is this number coming
from? 

I have found a 'Returning' clause of the update
statement, but I don't really want a value returned, just how many rows were
affected.

We have a situation where we want to know if an update
statement actually updated any rows or in fact did not find a row that met the
condition. SqlPlus will return '0 rows updated.' Does anyone know
where 0 is coming from?

Thanks you for your help.

Laura










complementary Conference passes

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RE: UPDATE Results

2002-05-21 Thread Karniotis, Stephen
Title: UPDATE Results









If you are within a C-type program, the SQLCA
contains a field that contains the number of rows updated. Look at the Application Developers
Guide for more information.



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Is
there a way to access 'something' that would
denote if any rows were updated?

Feedback lets you set up
how many rows will be effected before a count is returned, but WHERE is this
number coming from? 

I have found a 'Returning'
clause of the update statement, but I don't really want a value returned, just
how many rows were affected.

We have a situation where we want to know
if an update statement actually updated any rows or in fact did not find a row
that met the condition. SqlPlus will return '0 rows updated.' Does
anyone know where 0 is coming from?

Thanks you for your help.

Laura










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Re: ORA_ENCRYPT_LOGIN

2002-05-21 Thread Robert Eskridge

I'm not using it, but you can look at the packets too and from the
client by setting these lines in the clients sqlnet.ora:

TRACE_LEVEL_CLIENT = 16
TRACE_DIRECTORY_CLIENT = some directory
TRACE_FILE_CLIENT = some file

The output is pretty huge, so you don't want to do this for more than
a trivial session before you turn the trace off.

-rje

R Anyone using this and if so, do you know of a way to verify that the
R password is actually being encrypted?


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RE: host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: host from SQL prompt





I wish I could train them like monkeys, but no, it's an account for tech. support
and they're ssh'ing into the production box, and I want to limit their access and give
them no way to get to a command prompt, if I can avoid it. Would you believe that
they were originally setup to get into the box as the owner of the oracle software..SCARY!



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Are they telnetting in to your server and then running SQLPlus at the
command prompt or are they running SQLPlus from their client and connecting
via SQLNet?


If the first, then host will not give them anything that they won't get
from the telnet session.


If the second, they they'll most likely end up at the ORACLE_HOME\bin
prompt of their workstation.


Are your users really just trained monkeys in disguise and you don't want
them to try to recreate the works of Shakespear via random keystrokes?
What's the real issue here?




 
 Richard 
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 rhuntley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 @mindleaders. cc: 
 com Subject: host from SQL prompt 
 Sent by: root 
 
 
 05/21/2002 
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 Please 
 respond to 
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How can I prevent users from typing host to get to an OS prompt while
logged
into a DB account with an OS account?  They can host to a prompt now, but
they
can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only thing
in their
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the host
command
all together.


TIA!





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RE: complementary Conference passes

2002-05-21 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Ops.  Sorry list.

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RE: complementary Conference passes

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I am interested.  Thanks.

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RE: host from SQL prompt --- LOL

2002-05-21 Thread Thomas Day


The product profile is the way to go.


   

Richard

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Sent by: root  

   

   

05/21/2002 

02:12 PM   

Please 

respond to 

ORACLE-L   

   

   







I wish I could train them like monkeys, but no, it's an account for tech.
support
and they're ssh'ing into the production box, and I want to limit their
access and give
them no way to get to a command prompt, if I can avoid it.  Would you
believe that
they were originally setup to get into the box as the owner of the oracle
software..SCARY!

-Original Message-
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Are they telnetting in to your server and then running SQLPlus at the
command prompt or are they running SQLPlus from their client and connecting
via SQLNet?

If the first, then host will not give them anything that they won't get
from the telnet session.

If the second, they they'll most likely end up at the ORACLE_HOME\bin
prompt of their workstation.

Are your users really just trained monkeys in disguise and you don't want
them to try to recreate the works of Shakespear via random keystrokes?
What's the real issue here?


    Richard
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How can I prevent users from typing host to get to an OS prompt while
logged
into a DB account with an OS account?  They can host to a prompt now, but
they
can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only thing
in their
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the host
command
all together.

TIA!



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RE: Outstanding bugs in 8.1.7.2

2002-05-21 Thread Jesse, Rich

I've dumped the Solaris one to:

http://www.westbend.net/~legoman/readme_solaris_8173.html

HTH!  GL! :)

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 Is there anyway to download the readme file without 
 downloading the whole
 product set for 8.1.7.3?
 
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Free ODTUG2002 registrations

2002-05-21 Thread Keith Peterson

Chris, the info. is at:

https://www.odtug.com/ssl/2002_reg_iraje.asp

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OS patches required by Oracle

2002-05-21 Thread Gurelei

Hi.

How do I find the list of OS patches that are required
by Oracle 8.1.7 on DYNIX. I have looked at both melink
and ibm.com sites, but couldn't find the info there.
Am I looking at wrong places?

thanks

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RE: Export problem

2002-05-21 Thread Miller, Jay

But why would you want to?
If you export using the 7.3.3 database using the 7.3.3 export utility you
should be able to import it into your 8.1.7 database using the 8.1.7 import
utility.  It's backward compatible.
You just can't go the other way (import an 8.1.7 export to 7.3.3).
 
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Hi! 

Can I export a 7.3.3 database with a 8.1.7 export utility? Theoretically it
should work. 

EXP-8: ORACLE error 942 encountered 
ORA-00942: Tabelle oder View nicht vorhanden 
EXP-00024: Export views not installed, please notify your DBA 
EXP-0: Export terminated unsuccessfully 

But why am I getting these error messges? What scripts need to be run to
solve this problem? 

This is 7.3.3 / 8.1.7 on Win NT. 

Thanks, 
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RE: OS patches required by Oracle

2002-05-21 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

Is Dynix still supported by Oracle?  I thought they cancelled support for
that OS.

Thank You

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How do I find the list of OS patches that are required
by Oracle 8.1.7 on DYNIX. I have looked at both melink
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Am I looking at wrong places?

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Re: init.ora params for quick i/0

2002-05-21 Thread Jared . Still

Silly question maybe, but have you verified that those kaio call are 
succeeding?

Their mere appearance in the truss output only verifies async is being 
attempted.

If the kaio calls fail, they fall back on standard io calls.

Since you're on solaris, pick up Adrian Cockroft's Sun tuning book, you 
will find
it invaluable.

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Hello,

We have implemented quick i/o on a sun server running solaris 8 and Oracle
8173. I have set disk_asynch to true. I have verified using truss that 
dbwr
is making kaio calls. Is there anything I am missing on the db side to 
make
proper use of quick i/o ?

Also, I am noticing heavy I/O related waits for a process (db file
sequential read, db file parallel write etc..) and would like to involve 
our
sys admin in tuning this particular process..If anyone has any idea what I
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I really appreciate any feedback I could get..

Thanks

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Re: patching 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Jared . Still

Most of us on the list would probably recommend that you patch
to 8.1.7.2.x, though you probably should check the patch readmes
on MetaLink and check for RMAN bugs.

Jared






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Good morning all,

They are finally going to let me install 8.1.7 and try it on my little
database that hold my recovery catalog and OEM repository.  I would like 
to
know if I will have to apply a patch before using it.

We are on AIX 4.3.3.


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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-21 Thread Jared . Still

Yup, $60, and worth every penny.

It may be 4 years old, but the information is still pertinent.

Jared





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looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60?

joe


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Joe,

Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK is stored
as an FK in the fact table.

That way you can select from the time dimension by year, day, qtr, 
whatever,
and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.

The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit includes a spreadsheet to generate
the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I think it has about 20 
columns.

Very good book, can't recommend it enough.

Jared






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Ok i'm messing with dimensions.

dm_time to be exact:

create table dm_time
( calendar_date date not null,
  calendar_month number(2) not null,
  calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
  calendar_year number(4) not null);

insert into dm_time values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'), 1,1,2002);
insert into dm_time values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'), 1,1,2003);

 2 rows nice and simple

 trying to validate the dimension comes up with an error, my guess is 
because of the design of the table
 
 where basically calendar_date is child of
 calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is child of calendar_year, 
wont validate.

-  the question i have is this, should month really be like 2002-01 with 
the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
will validate ok.

Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i missing something here.

thanks, joe




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Re: Korn Shell Sqlplus

2002-05-21 Thread Jared . Still

Stephane Faroult wrote:

   Killing Oracle server processes is definitely bad manners. Especially
 if you are using MTS. Even if you are not, the proper way to kill an
 Oracle process is to use ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION. I think that you
 should use the DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO package to set something like 'Hey!
 Shoot me!' in your CLIENT_INFO column in V$PROCESS - it would make it
 easier to another process to log as DBA, spot the process and bang.

-

Stephane, 

We will certainly disagree on that.  I contend that you should
*always* kill the process first.  The reason being that using
'ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION' has a nasty habit of hanging sessions
that are holding locks. 

I've seen it happen on all versions from 7.0.16 - 8.1.6, on DG/UX,
Windows NT 4.0 and Solaris 2.5 - 2.6.

It has become my habit to always kill the process ( if dedicated server )
or NT thread first.  If the session still appears in v$session, use 
ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION to finish it off.  Works every time.

Doing it Oracle's way has necessitated too many database bounces for
my tastes.

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Re: I/O EVENTS

2002-05-21 Thread Jared . Still

Go ahead an post an informative example of 
 how the v$ views don't allow you to diagnose a specific problem,
 and how Precise products do. 
 We wanna know, and I don't imagine he'll mind.

Indeed I won't mind.  Go ahead, tell us.  :) 

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 So just looking at v$system_event is dangerous.
 Looking v$system_event and v$sysstat
 is much better but still not perfect. The third
 way is ... (mail me ;-))

Anjo,

Jared has an even hand on the tiller.  Go ahead an post an informative
example of how the v$ views don't allow you to diagnose a specific 
problem,
and how Precise products do.  We wanna know, and I don't imagine he'll 
mind.

These little hints, and half sentences that end with an ellipsis, are
getting on my nerves!  ;-)

- Greg

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Shared Pool Tuneup

2002-05-21 Thread Hamid Alavi

Hi List,
I have run some scripts for Tune up shared pool,here is the result of one
script which i run :
Script:
SELECT name,sharable_mem
FROM v$db_object_cache
WHERE sharable_mem  1
AND (TYPE = 'PACKAGE' OR TYPE = 'PACKAGE BODY' OR
TYPE = 'FUNCTION' OR
TYPE = 'PROCEDURE')
AND KEPT = 'NO'
ORDER BY 2 DESC

here is the result:

NAMESHARABLE_MEM
-   --
DBMS_JAVA   56373
DBMS_STANDARD   24405
DBMS_UTILITY24212
DBMS_SPACE_ADMIN20832
DBMS_UTILITY20508
DBMS_JAVA   15189
DBMS_OUTPUT 13063
DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO   12461
DBMS_SHARED_POOL11148
DBMS_SHARED_POOL10648

Question is, do i have to pin all of these objects in my shared_pool or NOT?
Thanks



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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael

it's cheaper on bookpool :)

especially when Borders is out of stock

you guys are killing my credit card!  I went out and bought Inmon's
Building the Data Warehouse, BOTH Kimball books and and considering the
Webhouse one as well geez, when do I have time to READ this stuff?

Rachel

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 looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like $60?
 
 joe
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK is stored
 as an FK in the fact table.
 
 That way you can select from the time dimension by year, day, qtr, 
 whatever,
 and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.
 
 The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit includes a spreadsheet to
 generate
 the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I think it has about
 20 
 columns.
 
 Very good book, can't recommend it enough.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 for you
 
 
 Ok i'm messing with dimensions.
 
 dm_time to be exact:
 
 create table dm_time
 ( calendar_date date not null,
   calendar_month number(2) not null,
   calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
   calendar_year number(4) not null);
 
 insert into dm_time values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'),
 1,1,2002);
 insert into dm_time values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'),
 1,1,2003);
 
  2 rows nice and simple
 
  trying to validate the dimension comes up with an error, my guess
 is 
 because of the design of the table
  
  where basically calendar_date is child of
  calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is child of
 calendar_year, 
 wont validate.
 
 -  the question i have is this, should month really be like 2002-01
 with 
 the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
 will validate ok.
 
 Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i missing something
 here.
 
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Monitoring Oracle License

2002-05-21 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

How does one monitor oracle license, is v$license the only option? Is this
useful in case of processor based license?

Thanks
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DB Freeze

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Last Friday, our 9012 database froze, I mean the only way we could get in
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queries to see what was the problem. The other side (of the cluster)
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locked. So we had to shot the pmon process.

When analyzing the situation later, we found that Oracle didn't dump a
single useful trace file, so contacting OWS was pretty much useless. OS logs
were clean, no alarms raised there.

Has anyone encountered this situation that Oracle freezes and crashes
without any trace files? How does one collect useful information in such
cases? Are there any tools that we could use to gather at-lease some
information before the DB crashes?

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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-21 Thread Jack Silvey

I second that emotion. the guy that wrote it is a PhD
and owns Red Brick or something. totally knows what he
is talking about. One of my top five books, best
warehousing book by far I have ever read.

/jack silvey

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 looks like published aug of 98 for that book?, like
 $60?
 
 joe
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Joe,
 
 Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK
 is stored
 as an FK in the fact table.
 
 That way you can select from the time dimension by
 year, day, qtr, 
 whatever,
 and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.
 
 The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit includes a
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 the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I
 think it has about 20 
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 Very good book, can't recommend it enough.
 
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 create table dm_time
 ( calendar_date date not null,
   calendar_month number(2) not null,
   calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
   calendar_year number(4) not null);
 
 insert into dm_time
 values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'), 1,1,2002);
 insert into dm_time
 values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'), 1,1,2003);
 
  2 rows nice and simple
 
  trying to validate the dimension comes up with an
 error, my guess is 
 because of the design of the table
  
  where basically calendar_date is child of
  calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is
 child of calendar_year, 
 wont validate.
 
 -  the question i have is this, should month really
 be like 2002-01 with 
 the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
 will validate ok.
 
 Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i
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Export 7.3.4 / Import 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I need a full export of a 7.3.4 database that will be imported into a 8.1.7
database.  I know there are several ways to do this.
I would like to import as much as I can, (grants, users, etc...) in one pass
if I can.  Will an import full ignore=y work or will
it complain about the different versions?  
 
Any Suggestions?
 
Ron Smith
 
 

 

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Re:RE: OS patches required by Oracle

2002-05-21 Thread dgoulet

You be right!!

Dick Goulet

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Is Dynix still supported by Oracle?  I thought they cancelled support for
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Hi.

How do I find the list of OS patches that are required
by Oracle 8.1.7 on DYNIX. I have looked at both melink
and ibm.com sites, but couldn't find the info there.
Am I looking at wrong places?

thanks

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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-21 Thread Jack Silvey

I find that if I wrap my books in Saran Wrap, I can
read in the shower. And if you prop the book up on
your shoulder, you can read it backwards in the
rearview mirror during drive time. Also, if you learn
to read in your sleep, you can get LOADS of stuff
done.

;)

hth,

/jack silvey


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 it's cheaper on bookpool :)
 
 especially when Borders is out of stock
 
 you guys are killing my credit card!  I went out and
 bought Inmon's
 Building the Data Warehouse, BOTH Kimball books and
 and considering the
 Webhouse one as well geez, when do I have time
 to READ this stuff?
 
 Rachel
 
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  Yup, $60, and worth every penny.
  
  It may be 4 years old, but the information is
 still pertinent.
  
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  looks like published aug of 98 for that book?,
 like $60?
  
  joe
  
  
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  Joe,
  
  Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK
 is stored
  as an FK in the fact table.
  
  That way you can select from the time dimension
 by year, day, qtr, 
  whatever,
  and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.
  
  The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit includes a
 spreadsheet to
  generate
  the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I
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  20 
  columns.
  
  Very good book, can't recommend it enough.
  
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  Ok i'm messing with dimensions.
  
  dm_time to be exact:
  
  create table dm_time
  ( calendar_date date not null,
calendar_month number(2) not null,
calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
calendar_year number(4) not null);
  
  insert into dm_time
 values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'),
  1,1,2002);
  insert into dm_time
 values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'),
  1,1,2003);
  
   2 rows nice and simple
  
   trying to validate the dimension comes up with
 an error, my guess
  is 
  because of the design of the table
   
   where basically calendar_date is child of
   calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is
 child of
  calendar_year, 
  wont validate.
  
  -  the question i have is this, should month
 really be like 2002-01
  with 
  the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
  will validate ok.
  
  Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i
 missing something
  here.
  
  thanks, joe
  
  
  
  
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ITL Deadlock Example?

2002-05-21 Thread Walter K

Can someone post an example of how to trigger a 
deadlock (ORA-0060) due to ITL shortage? This is for 
informational/fact-finding purposes.

I've created a test table with MAXTRANS=1 and can 
cause the enqueue waits between two sessions 
contending for the same block but I can't seem to 
cause a deadlock to occur.

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Re: patching 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Ron Thomas


BTW, looks like 8.1.7.4 has been released for most platforms.  Just downloaded HP-UX 
and linux
today.

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Good morning all,

They are finally going to let me install 8.1.7 and try it on my little
database that hold my recovery catalog and OEM repository.  I would like
to
know if I will have to apply a patch before using it.

We are on AIX 4.3.3.


Thanks in advance,
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RE: Outstanding bugs in 8.1.7.2

2002-05-21 Thread Ron Rogers

Cherie,
 The majority of the documentation is available for download at
http://docs.oracle.com 
click on database and then the version and OS you want.
Ron
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I've dumped the Solaris one to:

http://www.westbend.net/~legoman/readme_solaris_8173.html 

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 Is there anyway to download the readme file without 
 downloading the whole
 product set for 8.1.7.3?
 
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Re: UPDATE Results

2002-05-21 Thread Stephane Faroult

 Burton, Laura L. wrote:
 
 Is there a way to access 'something' that would denote if any rows
 were updated?
 
 Feedback lets you set up how many rows will be effected before a count
 is returned, but WHERE is this number coming from?
 
 I have found a 'Returning' clause of the update statement, but I don't
 really want a value returned, just how many rows were affected.
 
 We have a situation where we want to know if an update statement
 actually updated any rows or in fact did not find a row that met the
 condition.  SqlPlus will return '0 rows updated.'  Does anyone know
 where 0 is coming from?
 
 Thanks you for your help.
 
 Laura

Anonymous PL/SQL block. Check SQL%ROWCOUNT and if needed use
raise_application_error. You can then abort the process with WHENEVER
SQLERROR at the SQL*Plus level. If you need to do something more subtle,
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RE: Shared Pool Tuneup

2002-05-21 Thread Reddy, Madhusudana

Hamid,
what happens , if an object is getting executed once in a while but takes
huge sharable memory, we may not be getting full use of pinning it in the
shared pool, except wasting the memory, So we need to consider the number of
executions also. if the number of executions are high for any object/SQL,
its good idea to keep it in shared pool.

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Hi List,
I have run some scripts for Tune up shared pool,here is the result of one
script which i run :
Script:
SELECT name,sharable_mem
FROM v$db_object_cache
WHERE sharable_mem  1
AND (TYPE = 'PACKAGE' OR TYPE = 'PACKAGE BODY' OR
TYPE = 'FUNCTION' OR
TYPE = 'PROCEDURE')
AND KEPT = 'NO'
ORDER BY 2 DESC

here is the result:

NAMESHARABLE_MEM
-   --
DBMS_JAVA   56373
DBMS_STANDARD   24405
DBMS_UTILITY24212
DBMS_SPACE_ADMIN20832
DBMS_UTILITY20508
DBMS_JAVA   15189
DBMS_OUTPUT 13063
DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO   12461
DBMS_SHARED_POOL11148
DBMS_SHARED_POOL10648

Question is, do i have to pin all of these objects in my shared_pool or NOT?
Thanks



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Re: Korn Shell Sqlplus

2002-05-21 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

I must agree with Jared on this practice. By following this practice, you 
never bounce database to just get rid of hanging sessions holding locks as 
some listers are complaining about that they had to bounce database to get 
rid of hanging sessions becuase they killed process on database level first.

Regards
Rafiq




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Stephane Faroult wrote:

Killing Oracle server processes is definitely bad manners. Especially
  if you are using MTS. Even if you are not, the proper way to kill an
  Oracle process is to use ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION. I think that you
  should use the DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO package to set something like 'Hey!
  Shoot me!' in your CLIENT_INFO column in V$PROCESS - it would make it
  easier to another process to log as DBA, spot the process and bang.

-

Stephane,

We will certainly disagree on that.  I contend that you should
*always* kill the process first.  The reason being that using
'ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION' has a nasty habit of hanging sessions
that are holding locks.

I've seen it happen on all versions from 7.0.16 - 8.1.6, on DG/UX,
Windows NT 4.0 and Solaris 2.5 - 2.6.

It has become my habit to always kill the process ( if dedicated server )
or NT thread first.  If the session still appears in v$session, use
ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION to finish it off.  Works every time.

Doing it Oracle's way has necessitated too many database bounces for
my tastes.

Jared


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Re: host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Stephane Faroult

 Richard Huntley wrote:
 
 How can I prevent users from typing host to get to an OS prompt
 while logged
 into a DB account with an OS account?  They can host to a prompt now,
 but they
 can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only
 thing in their
 PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the
 host command
 all together.
 
 TIA!

Look for PRODUCT_USER_PROFILE in the SQL*Plus reference guide.
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ID This Wait stat

2002-05-21 Thread Tom Schruefer


You know I could have all the documentation for Oracle printed on my brain,
buy all the books ever written about the subject, but the primary wait
problem that comes up will never be directly addressed.

So, what exactly does 'Slave Wait' mean and what can I do about it?


I am using DBWR Slaves, since it did not seem as though starting additional
DBWR's was appropriate on a Win2000 system.

Here are the Top 5 wait events as per Statpack and my shinny new 'Oracle
Performance Tuning 101' book:

Top 5 Wait Events
~ Wait %
Total
Event   Waits  Time (cs)   Wt
Time
   -
--
slave wait 66,5936,793,939
88.85
PX Deq: Execution Msg  28,960  407,167
5.33
PX Deq: Table Q Normal 19,864  302,480
3.96
PX Deq Credit: send blkd3,685  123,671
1.62
PX Deq: Signal ACK  3,2145,294
.07


I have a pretty good idea that 2-5 are for parallel query option, although I
still have to figure out just what they mean.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Statspack Problem

2002-05-21 Thread Tom Schruefer


I ran 'statscre' again and got the same message again.  It seemed to prevent
SQL*Plus from logging into any account.  So, I quit, re-started SQL*Plus and
logged in as Perfstat and ran the remaining two scripts, which then
completed without incident.

I have been able to take a couple snapshots with statspack over the last 3
hours and now I have another question.  But new question, new email.


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  Have you connected via BEQ or Net8 initially?
  Have you got oracle_sid set as an environment variable, as it
  looks like the connect perfstat/perfstat uses a BEQ connection.
 

 It does not look as though the SID_NAME parameter was set on the system I
 was trying to install too.  Although it was set on my test system, maybe
 thats why it worked in test but not production.

 Anyway, I am off to try again.  Thanks for the idea.

  After connecting as sys, can you now do a connect
  perfstat/perfstat (though maybe the scripts cleaned up on error
  and deleted the perfstat user.
 

 Yes, I can login as 'perfstat', and any other user as well, it looks like
 the script was able to create the user.


  HTH,
  Bruce Reardon
 
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  I am running 8.1.6 on a Win2000 SP2 machine.
 
  When I try running 'statscre.sql' as SYS, the first script
 completes fine,
  but when the second script tries to connect perfstat/perfstat ,
 I get the
  error, You are no longer connected to Oracle TNS:ORA-12154.  Of
  course the
  system then proceeds to attempt to run the other two scripts
  returning about
  a hundred not connected error messages.
 
  The Perfstat user was created and I did not have the chance to
  intervene and
  change its password.  Any ideas as to why the script would fail
  to connect?
 
  I connected as internal in the first place to run the script, so I don't
  think its TNS.
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Re: Data Warehouse experts, a simple question for you

2002-05-21 Thread Rachel Carmichael

gee, and here I thought all I had to do was put the book under my
pillow and let the words seep in through osmosis :)


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  it's cheaper on bookpool :)
  
  especially when Borders is out of stock
  
  you guys are killing my credit card!  I went out and
  bought Inmon's
  Building the Data Warehouse, BOTH Kimball books and
  and considering the
  Webhouse one as well geez, when do I have time
  to READ this stuff?
  
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   It may be 4 years old, but the information is
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   looks like published aug of 98 for that book?,
  like $60?
   
   joe
   
   
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   Add a generated PK to the time dimension.  The PK
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   That way you can select from the time dimension
  by year, day, qtr, 
   whatever,
   and easily pick out the correct fact table rows.
   
   The Data Warehouse Lifecycle Toolkit includes a
  spreadsheet to
   generate
   the DDL/DML for a very robust time dimension.  I
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   20 
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   Very good book, can't recommend it enough.
   
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   Ok i'm messing with dimensions.
   
   dm_time to be exact:
   
   create table dm_time
   ( calendar_date date not null,
 calendar_month number(2) not null,
 calendar_qtr number(1) not null,
 calendar_year number(4) not null);
   
   insert into dm_time
  values(to_date('20020101','MMDD'),
   1,1,2002);
   insert into dm_time
  values(to_date('20030101','MMDD'),
   1,1,2003);
   
2 rows nice and simple
   
trying to validate the dimension comes up with
  an error, my guess
   is 
   because of the design of the table

where basically calendar_date is child of
calendar_month is child of calendar_qtr is
  child of
   calendar_year, 
   wont validate.
   
   -  the question i have is this, should month
  really be like 2002-01
   with 
   the year included, likewise with qtr, then it
   will validate ok.
   
   Was the design of dm_time just dont wrong or am i
  missing something
   here.
   
   thanks, joe
   
   
   
   
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RE: DB Freeze

2002-05-21 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

Raj:

You can dump the SYSTEMSTATE/PROCESSSTATE using ORADEBUG dump and analyze
the trace files.


Best Regards,
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Last Friday, our 9012 database froze, I mean the only way we could get in
was through sqlplus, no other tool would connect. We needed to bring the
other side up as soon as possible so didn't spend any time running any
queries to see what was the problem. The other side (of the cluster)
wouldn't come up because it reported that some resource it needed was
locked. So we had to shot the pmon process.

When analyzing the situation later, we found that Oracle didn't dump a
single useful trace file, so contacting OWS was pretty much useless. OS logs
were clean, no alarms raised there.

Has anyone encountered this situation that Oracle freezes and crashes
without any trace files? How does one collect useful information in such
cases? Are there any tools that we could use to gather at-lease some
information before the DB crashes?

Thanks in advance for any ideas and tips.
Raj
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RE: Export 7.3.4 / Import 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Stahlke, Mark

Ron,

I'm doing the same thing; full export from 7.3.4, full import into 8.1.7.3.
I used the 7.3.4 export binary and the 8.1.7 import binary. No complaints
about different versions.

Mark Stahlke
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I need a full export of a 7.3.4 database that will be imported into
a 8.1.7
database.  I know there are several ways to do this.
I would like to import as much as I can, (grants, users, etc...) in
one pass
if I can.  Will an import full ignore=y work or will
it complain about the different versions?  
 
Any Suggestions?
 
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RE: host from SQL prompt

2002-05-21 Thread Pass Stephanie

Product profile has worked to stop this and others since version 6.   It is
very easy to create the table and add a row to disable certain types of
commands.  Don't you just love nosey users  :)

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I wish I could train them like monkeys, but no, it's an account for tech.
support 
and they're ssh'ing into the production box, and I want to limit their
access and give 
them no way to get to a command prompt, if I can avoid it.  Would you
believe that 
they were originally setup to get into the box as the owner of the oracle
software..SCARY! 


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Are they telnetting in to your server and then running SQLPlus at the 
command prompt or are they running SQLPlus from their client and connecting 
via SQLNet? 

If the first, then host will not give them anything that they won't get 
from the telnet session. 

If the second, they they'll most likely end up at the ORACLE_HOME\bin 
prompt of their workstation. 

Are your users really just trained monkeys in disguise and you don't want 
them to try to recreate the works of Shakespear via random keystrokes? 
What's the real issue here? 



 

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can't do anything useful from there, since $ORACLE_HOME is the only thing 
in their 
PATH...just wondered if there is an easy way to prevent the use of the host 
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RE: How to enable Java

2002-05-21 Thread Miller, Jay

You don't need this article if in 8.1.6.

Java installations and upgrades became a lot more complicated as of 8.1.7.

Jay Miller

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I don't have an account with metalink, and I can't get to this article on
technet.  Anyplace else to get this.  Also, I'm trying to do this in
8.1.6.

Thanks,
Joe

On Tue, 21 May 2002, Rodrigues, Bryan wrote:

 Hi Joe,

 Check out oracle document note:156477.1 JVM installation on 8.1.7 for
 details.

 Bryan

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 Hi Joe,

 I think you need to run the following from the sys account

 /javavm/install/initjvm.sql -- setup database for running Hava and the ORB
 /rdbms/admin/initplsj.sql  -- initializes java libraries for pl/sql

 There may be other scripts depending on your needs but I think these you
 must run.

 System requirements (these are just recommendations)

 SHARED_POOL_SIZE = 65 MB
 JAVA_POOL_SIZE  = 50 mb
 50 MB free in the system tablespace
 250 MB of rollback segment space

 Rick




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 I'm installing IAS on our web server which is a DEC Alpha 800, one of the
 steps says that Java isn't enabled on the database that the IAS will work
 with.  This database TEST is running on a DEC Alpha 4100, the TEST
 database is an 8.1.6 database.  The IAS install says to use dbassist to
 turn on Java.

 Okay, I ran dbassist, checked change a database configuration
 selected TEST and clicked next.  A new window pops up, stays blank and
 nothing happens.  No status bar, no info, just the blank window.  After 10
 minutes I cancelled the process.  I've tried this with the database down,
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 Any ideas?  Any way to enable Java by running a script?

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RE: DB Freeze

2002-05-21 Thread Rodrigues, Bryan

One way is to do a system state dump level 10.

It is done either as svrmgrl or as sqlplus with sysdba privileges. You would
use the command alter sesssion set events 'immediate trace name systemstate
level 10'; (if you do not have a large user dump file capacity you can
alter your session to increase it). This needs to be done on all nodes of
the cluster while the cluster is hanging. The dump may take up to 10 minutes
to complete, but Oracle will require this for their investigation of the
issue. The dump files will be found in the udump directory.

We are on 8.1.7.2.1 on HP-UX and we had a similar type of problem and Oracle
had me do this when it happened. They were able to use the files in their
investigation.

Good luck with the issue,

Bryan

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Last Friday, our 9012 database froze, I mean the only way we could get in
was through sqlplus, no other tool would connect. We needed to bring the
other side up as soon as possible so didn't spend any time running any
queries to see what was the problem. The other side (of the cluster)
wouldn't come up because it reported that some resource it needed was
locked. So we had to shot the pmon process.

When analyzing the situation later, we found that Oracle didn't dump a
single useful trace file, so contacting OWS was pretty much useless. OS logs
were clean, no alarms raised there.

Has anyone encountered this situation that Oracle freezes and crashes
without any trace files? How does one collect useful information in such
cases? Are there any tools that we could use to gather at-lease some
information before the DB crashes?

Thanks in advance for any ideas and tips.
Raj
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RE: Export 7.3.4 / Import 8.1.7

2002-05-21 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Thanks!

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Ron,

I'm doing the same thing; full export from 7.3.4, full import into 8.1.7.3.
I used the 7.3.4 export binary and the 8.1.7 import binary. No complaints
about different versions.

Mark Stahlke
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Subject:Export 7.3.4 / Import 8.1.7

I need a full export of a 7.3.4 database that will be imported into
a 8.1.7
database.  I know there are several ways to do this.
I would like to import as much as I can, (grants, users, etc...) in
one pass
if I can.  Will an import full ignore=y work or will
it complain about the different versions?  
 
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Tru64 Unix and Oracle

2002-05-21 Thread Marmdba

Hi all, 

I am new to the Tru64 flavor of Unix and would like to find out if there are kernal 
parameters that need to be set for Oracle (similar to the shm parameters on SUN)? 
Also, I would like to know if there are any other differences in terms of an Oracle 
installation on Tru64.

TIA,

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Appending date to export file name in NT

2002-05-21 Thread Taylor, Shirley



Hi Everyone,
I can easily append the date to my export file names in unix. Can anyone
tell me how to do on NT.  An example would be great!  I've had very little
NT experience. Thanks for any help.
Shirley :-)

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RE: DB Freeze

2002-05-21 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Kevin,

No it wasn't a problem with log_archive_dest or on-line redo logs, these
locations have more than enough space allocated. As for redo, we weren't
generating much, I mean there were only 2 baseball games going on at that
time. We have managed 7 concurrent games and the DB doesn't even show any
signs of stress.

ps: By managing games, I mean managing updates to the games
(baseball/basketball etc), the info, stories, events, player stats, and team
stats etc.

Thanks for the pointers though ...
Raj
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Do you have archive logging turned on?
Yes: Is your log_archive_dest full?
Is the directory for your online redo logs full?


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RE: ITL Deadlock Example?

2002-05-21 Thread K Gopalakrishnan

SET PCTFREE=0 and fill the rows in that data block. 
Then update two DIFFERENT rows in that block
from DIFFERENT sessions.

You will get the required deadlock !!


Best Regards,
K Gopalakrishnan
Bangalore, INDIA



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Can someone post an example of how to trigger a 
deadlock (ORA-0060) due to ITL shortage? This is for 
informational/fact-finding purposes.

I've created a test table with MAXTRANS=1 and can 
cause the enqueue waits between two sessions 
contending for the same block but I can't seem to 
cause a deadlock to occur.

Thanks.
-w

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