RE: Dynamic select query

2002-12-18 Thread Naveen Nahata
THIS WILL WORK and shud be more efficient than instr() or 'select from dual'

SELECT * FROM shipment WHERE ship_name like '%' || ship_id || '%';

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Naveen

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Another way to perform the same task:

select * from shipment a
where ship_name like (select '%' || a.ship_id || '%' from dual);

I wonder how efficient this is compared to using the INSTR() function.

Regards,
Charu

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Try:

SQL SELECT *
  2FROM shipment
  3   WHERE ship_name LIKE '%ABC%';

SHI SHIP_NAME
--- --
ABC 1ABC123
DEF ABC1234
GHI 1234ABC

K.

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Hi all,

I have a table by name shipment with two columns say ship_id and
ship_name and data as follows:

SHIP_ID SHIP_NAME
-   ---
ABC 1ABCLMN
XYZ 23XYZ1112
ABB 123LM

I want to select all the columns in shipment table which has ship_id
as string in the ship_name column.  For example, ship_id 'ABC' is present in
'1ABCLMN'.  So that record should be selected.  The ship_id string may start
from any position and end at any position in ship_name column.  So I cannot
use the substr function in this case.  How do I write the select clause for
this requirement?

Any help in this regard is very much appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,

Ranganath
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RE: Open the password

2002-12-18 Thread Naveen Nahata
You can recreate the password file, you can recreate the instance with a
different password, and you can also connect from the server machine by
simple 'connect internal' in sqlplus. just check the value of ORACLE_SID, it
should be pointing to the DB

Regards
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Dear everyone,
I already installed oracle 8i database on my server, to make my
system secured I changed my 'INTERNAL' password but I forget to write the
changed in my book, and now I can't enter to 'INTERNAL' because I forget the
password. Please inform me how to open it again perhaps you have tips and
tricks how to solve it.

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Re: Open the password

2002-12-18 Thread JayK

Dear Sony,

Make your REMOTE_LOGIN_PASSWORD_FILE in INIT as Exclusive,restart the instance
and then change the password of SYS.
The password of INTERNAL will also be changed and will be
the same as SYS.

Best Regards
Jai






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Dear everyone,
 I already installed oracle 8i database on my server, to make my
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password. Please inform me how to open it again perhaps you have tips and
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RE: Open the password

2002-12-18 Thread Naveen Nahata
by the way, don't you use post-it 

;-)


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Dear everyone,
I already installed oracle 8i database on my server, to make my
system secured I changed my 'INTERNAL' password but I forget to write the
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password. Please inform me how to open it again perhaps you have tips and
tricks how to solve it.

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Re: Online Redifinition in 8i ?

2002-12-18 Thread Connor McDonald
No.

You could probably simulate something close with a lot
of hard work

hth
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Re: export porblem ???

2002-12-18 Thread Dale
Hi

Is it possible you FTP'd the export file across to the new machine in ASCII
mode (the default on win systems)? Always ensure you use BINARY mode - the
stray LF's get substituted by CRLF's inside the export file and it really
messes up the internals and can sometimes the imp utility to skip to the end
without reporting an error.

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 i am exporting a DB of size 10G.
 it totally has 33 tables.
 everything completes succesfully and even the log file
 says EXPORT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING.

 But while importing it,only 17 tables are imported.
 after that the cursor stands still and the import does
 not process further.the remaining 16 tables are not imported
 at all.

 why is it so ? have any of you come across such situation ?

 will datafiles of size greater than 2G cause such problem ?

 the DB is on oracle 8.1.6/Win2k.

 kindly let me know guys.

 TIA.
 Jp.



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RE: password

2002-12-18 Thread Mark Leith
And that is what it *should* be used for :)

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Yes, it's a dictionary based cracker.

Could be useful for checking for weak passwords.

For $4, I'm going to see what it does.  :)

Jared





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Jared,

This seems to be a 'brute force' dictionary based attack, as I believe the
Oracle password is a one-way trapdoor (just as UNIX). I don't think this
will be able to crack a strong password created from say a combination of
the first characters of an arbitrary sentence.

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 Hmm...
 
 Well maybe you *can* crack oracle passwords.
 
 I've just ordered the full version of this product.  ( $4, I don't
 think I need to bother the purchasing department ).
 
 I'll let you know how it works.
 
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Re: RE: export porblem ???

2002-12-18 Thread oraora oraora
Thanx guys for all your guidance.

Thanx Kirti.

i found that an index on table 17 caused all the delay and took a 
long time to be created.

when i said

IMP FILE=ABC.DAT INDEXES=N ROWS=Y

i was able to get all the tables.
but still,while importing i get the error

IMP-00019: row rejected due to ORACLE error 1401
IMP-3: ORACLE error 1401 encountered
ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column
Column 1 1110384
Column 2 15798
Column 3 D
Column 4 ++
Column 5 candy

this causes a few rows to be skipped in some table.

- ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column -

if this is true , it should not have allowed
that particular row to be inserted while doing INSERT  ?

why does this occur while importing ?

can someone explain me ?

TIA.
Jp.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 Deshpande, Kirti wrote :
Are you importing indexes?
How many indexes there are on table #17?
Is the DB in archive log mode?
Is the archiver getting stuck?

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Re: Re: export porblem ???

2002-12-18 Thread oraora oraora
Thanx guys for all your guidance.

Dale,

i found that an index on table 17 caused all the delay and took a 
long time to be created.

when i said

IMP FILE=ABC.DAT INDEXES=N ROWS=Y

i was able to get all the tables.
but still,while importing i get the error

IMP-00019: row rejected due to ORACLE error 1401
IMP-3: ORACLE error 1401 encountered
ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column
Column 1 1110384
Column 2 15798
Column 3 D
Column 4 ++
Column 5 candy

this causes a few rows to be skipped in some table.

- ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column -

if this is true , it should not have allowed
that particular row to be inserted while doing INSERT  ?

why does this occur while importing ?

can someone explain me ?

TIA.
Jp.

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Hi

Is it possible you FTP'd the export file across to the new 
machine in ASCII
mode (the default on win systems)? Always ensure you use BINARY 
mode - the
stray LF's get substituted by CRLF's inside the export file and 
it really
messes up the internals and can sometimes the imp utility to skip 
to the end
without reporting an error.

Regards
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Re: Re: export porblem ???

2002-12-18 Thread oraora oraora
Thanx guys for all your guidance.

Thanx Adar.

i found that an index on table 17 caused all the delay and took a 
long time to be created.

when i said

IMP FILE=ABC.DAT INDEXES=N ROWS=Y

i was able to get all the tables.
but still,while importing i get the error

IMP-00019: row rejected due to ORACLE error 1401
IMP-3: ORACLE error 1401 encountered
ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column
Column 1 1110384
Column 2 15798
Column 3 D
Column 4 ++
Column 5 candy

this causes a few rows to be skipped in some table.

- ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column -

if this is true , it should not have allowed
that particular row to be inserted while doing INSERT  ?

why does this occur while importing ?

can someone explain me ?

TIA.
Jp.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 Yechiel Adar wrote :
Hello

After building a table the import builds constraint and 
indexes.
If you got a big table that can take awhile.
Check with task/performance monitor if the instance is idle or 
working.

Yechiel Adar
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  guys,
 
  i am exporting a DB of size 10G.
  it totally has 33 tables.
  everything completes succesfully and even the log file
  says EXPORT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
 
  But while importing it,only 17 tables are imported.
  after that the cursor stands still and the import does
  not process further.the remaining 16 tables are not imported
  at all.
 
  why is it so ? have any of you come across such situation ?
 
  will datafiles of size greater than 2G cause such problem ?
 
  the DB is on oracle 8.1.6/Win2k.
 
  kindly let me know guys.
 
  TIA.
  Jp.
 
 
 
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Re: password

2002-12-18 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Jared's answer still stands

you can't


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RE: Re: export porblem ???

2002-12-18 Thread Naveen Nahata
Why are you sending it repeatedy? or is there a virus?

Regards
Naveen

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Thanx guys for all your guidance.

Thanx Adar.

i found that an index on table 17 caused all the delay and took a 
long time to be created.

when i said

IMP FILE=ABC.DAT INDEXES=N ROWS=Y

i was able to get all the tables.
but still,while importing i get the error

IMP-00019: row rejected due to ORACLE error 1401
IMP-3: ORACLE error 1401 encountered
ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column
Column 1 1110384
Column 2 15798
Column 3 D
Column 4 ++
Column 5 candy

this causes a few rows to be skipped in some table.

- ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column -

if this is true , it should not have allowed
that particular row to be inserted while doing INSERT  ?

why does this occur while importing ?

can someone explain me ?

TIA.
Jp.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 Yechiel Adar wrote :
Hello

After building a table the import builds constraint and 
indexes.
If you got a big table that can take awhile.
Check with task/performance monitor if the instance is idle or 
working.

Yechiel Adar
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  guys,
 
  i am exporting a DB of size 10G.
  it totally has 33 tables.
  everything completes succesfully and even the log file
  says EXPORT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
 
  But while importing it,only 17 tables are imported.
  after that the cursor stands still and the import does
  not process further.the remaining 16 tables are not imported
  at all.
 
  why is it so ? have any of you come across such situation ?
 
  will datafiles of size greater than 2G cause such problem ?
 
  the DB is on oracle 8.1.6/Win2k.
 
  kindly let me know guys.
 
  TIA.
  Jp.
 
 
 
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OAS 4.0.8.1 move

2002-12-18 Thread Wiegand, Kurt
I have a 4.0.8.1 Oracle Application Server implementation on a Solaris 2 .6
box
that I am trying to move to a new, presumably identical, box.  We are moving
it
by simply copying all of the datafiles from one box to the other.  We can
not
get it to start!  If any one can offer a suggestion, it would be
appreciated.  Our
current problem (after issuing owsctl start) is:
-
Please wait while the command is being processed on host frog ...
Starting ORB process...
waiting for ORB to be ready...
ORB is not responding. Please restart manually...
OWS-20214: The OAS processes can not be started, because the CORBA orb 
processes can not be started.
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there is an associated file, oasoorb674.out, which contains:

YDUT-1571, ydcnm.c 789: unexpected IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0 from 
yocdii.c 720
YDUT-1571, ydcnm.c 493: unexpected IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0 from 
yocdii.c 720
Init function of module ydn returned an error
ERROR: load of module ydn failed
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The only differences between the boxes are the IP and the 'name resolution'.
The source box
uses dns first but the target box resolves names locally first and then uses
dns.  The nodenames
are the same.
owsctl start -nodemgr  works
owsctl status -T works

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[OT] Patch for PostgreSQL to perform hierarchical queries in Oracle's style.

2002-12-18 Thread Jan Pruner
http://gppl.terminal.ru/

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Re: Larry E's new toy ?

2002-12-18 Thread Yechiel Adar
Chicken feed.
Only 100,000,000$

Yechiel Adar
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http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,76748,00.h
tml

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RE: password

2002-12-18 Thread Wiegand, Kurt
Oracle7 Server Release 7.3.4.5.0 - Production
With the distributed, parallel query and Spatial Data options
PL/SQL Release 2.3.4.5.0 - Production
 
SQL create user test identified by test;
 
User created.
 
SQL  select password from dba_users where username = 'TEST';
 
PASSWORD
--
7A0F2B316C212D67
 
SQL drop user test;  
 
User dropped.

SQL create user hohoho identified by test;
 
User created.
 
SQL select password from dba_users where username = 'HOHOHO';
 
PASSWORD
--
2C49BD93B9733CA0
 
SQL drop user hohoho;
 
User dropped.


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SQL*Plus: Release 9.2.0.2.0 - Production on Tue Dec 17 17:19:55 2002

Copyright (c) 1982, 2002, Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.

 

Connected to:

Oracle9i Enterprise Edition Release 9.2.0.2.0 - Production

With the Partitioning, OLAP and Oracle Data Mining options

JServer Release 9.2.0.2.0 - Production

SQL create user test identified by test;

User created.

SQL select password from dba_users where username = 'TEST'; 

PASSWORD

--

7A0F2B316C212D67

SQL 

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 created a user test identified by test on 2 separate systems in db's with
different names 
The password value was the same 
Can someone verify if it is the same on their system 
Create user test identified by test; 
select password from dba_users where username = 'TEST'; 
PASSWORD 
-- 
7A0F2B316C212D67 

-Original Message- 
 

 

on my db

 

LTRACK1 SQL select password from dba_users where username = 'TEST'; 

PASSWORD
--
7A0F2B316C212D67

 

bob 

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RE: Oracle Application Server on .net

2002-12-18 Thread Boivin, Patrice J



Oracle 
produced some .NET items, mostly connectivity-related.

http://otn.oracle.com/tech/windows/content.html

Regards,

Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 
Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et 
Exploit. des systèmes Technology 
Services | Services 
technologiques Informatics 
Branch | Direction de 
l'informatique Maritimes Region, 
DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO 
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  -Original Message-From: David Mitchell 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 9:14 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Oracle Application Server on .net
  It 
  sounds like there's a considerable amount of confusion about this from some of 
  the responses to this question so far. There are lots of .Nets 
  currently in the Microsoft world. There's Visual Studio .Net which is a 
  development environment. There's the .Net CLR which is a runtime 
  environment for a variety of OS's (primarily Microsoft's) and then there's the 
  upcoming Windows .Net Server 2003 which is the successor to Windows 2000 
  Server. I assume from yourdescription that you are talking about 
  Windows .Net Server 2003 which is currently in Release Candidate 2 
  status. If this is what you are talking about then it is most definitely 
  an operating system and has nothing to do with OAS. I wouldn't expect 
  any .NetServer compatibilityfrom Oracle until the OS is actually 
  released by Microsoft (currently scheduled for April 
2003).
  
  David
  
-Original Message-From: Barbara Baker 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 
3:34 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle Application Server on 
.net
List: 
I have a developer trying to install Oracle9i Application Server Release 
2 (9.0.3) on a .net server. He's using the install disk for Windows NT 
and 2000. Needless to say, it gives him an error and throws up. 
He considers .net just another operating system like np or 2000. I 
think of it morelike a competitorfor OAS. At any rate, I 
can't find any mention of .net on either Metalink or OTN (except how much 
better OAS is than .net) 
Does anyone know if Oraclehas an application server installation 
for .net? If so, do you know how I might get it? Is this a silly 
question? Should I be hanging my head in shame?? 
Thanks in advance for any information. 
Barb 



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RE: slow query help

2002-12-18 Thread Nicoll, Iain
Joan,

Can't this be done as a series of ors instead of the union alls as this
would presumably reduce it to one full table scan of each table.

e.g.

SELECT T11.TRUNK TRUNK_FOUND
  ,T21.IDTARGET_ID
  ,T21.SSN   TARGET_SSN
  ,T21.FULLNAME  TARGET_FULLNAME
  ,T21.LASTNAME  TARGET_LASTNAME
  ,T21.MIDDLENAMETARGET_MIDDLENAME
  ,T21.FIRSTNAME TARGET_FIRSTNAME
  ,T21.DOB   TARGET_DOB
  ,T21.GENDERTARGET_GENDER
FROM SM_NEW_LOAD T21
,PR_IDENTITY T11  
WHERE (T21.SSN IN ( T11.SSN,T11.HRID,SISID,MEDID,AFFID  ) 
   OR T21.ID IN (T11.SSN,T11.HRID,SISID,MEDID,AFFID  ) 
   OR EXISTS (SELECT 1   
  FROM PR_ALT_IDS  
  WHERE TRUNK = T11.TRUNK  
  AND ALT_ID IN (T21.SSN,T21.ID)))
OR  (REPLACE(UPPER(T11.LASTNAME),'-',' ') =
REPLACE(UPPER(T21.LASTNAME),'-',' ')
 AND UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME) = UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME) ) 
OR  (REPLACE(UPPER(T11.LASTNAME),'-',' ') =
REPLACE(UPPER(T21.LASTNAME),'-',' ')
 AND ((INSTR(UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T21.MIDDLENAME),1) = 1 AND 
   INSTR(UPPER(T11.MIDDLENAME),UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME),1) = 1 ) 
 OR (INSTR(UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T11.MIDDLENAME),1) = 1  AND
 INSTR(UPPER(T21.MIDDLENAME),UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME),1) = 1 )))
OR  (UPPER(T11.LASTNAME) = UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME)  
 AND UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME) = UPPER(T21.LASTNAME))
OR  ((INSTR(' '||REPLACE(UPPER(T11.LASTNAME),'-',' ')||' ','
'||UPPER(T21.LASTNAME)|| ' ' )  0  
  OR INSTR(' '||REPLACE(UPPER(T21.LASTNAME),'-',' ')||' ','
'||UPPER(T11.LASTNAME)||' ')  0 ) 
 AND UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME) = UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME)  
 AND (T11.MIDDLENAME IS NULL OR T21.MIDDLENAME IS NULL OR
UPPER(SUBSTR(T11.MIDDLENAME,1,1)) = UPPER(SUBSTR(T21.MIDDLENAME,1,1)) ))
OR  (UPPER(T21.LASTNAME) = UPPER(T11.LASTNAME)  AND
 (INSTR(UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME),1)  0  OR
  INSTR(UPPER(T11.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T21.FIRSTNAME),1)  0 ) AND
 (INSTR(UPPER(T21.MIDDLENAME),UPPER(T11.MIDDLENAME),1)  0  OR
  INSTR(UPPER(T11.MIDDLENAME),UPPER(T21.MIDDLENAME),1)  0 ))



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Hi,

This is the query bothered us very much recently. It run at least 15
min. and sometimes crashed the temp tablespace. Do you have any idea how
to make it run better. Our developer tried used two cursors to compare
the result, but the result is not optimized. We tried used last name and
first name function based index on sm_new_load table.  If someone
interested in this query, I can sent you the execution plan. 
Thanks in advanced,

Joan

SELECT T11.TRUNK TRUNK_FOUND,T21.ID TARGET_ID,T21.SSN
TARGET_SSN,T21.FULLNAME
  TARGET_FULLNAME,T21.LASTNAME TARGET_LASTNAME,T21.MIDDLENAME
  TARGET_MIDDLENAME,T21.FIRSTNAME TARGET_FIRSTNAME,T21.DOB TARGET_DOB,
  T21.GENDER TARGET_GENDER
FROM
 SM_NEW_LOAD T21,PR_IDENTITY T11  WHERE ( T21.ROWID,T11.ROWID  ) IN
(SELECT
  T22.ROWID,T12.ROWID   FROM 
PR_IDENTITY T12,SM_NEW_LOAD T22  WHERE T22.SSN
  IN ( T12.SSN,T12.HRID,SISID,MEDID,AFFID  ) OR T22.ID IN (
T12.SSN,T12.HRID,
  SISID,MEDID,AFFID  ) OR EXISTS  (SELECT 1   FROM
 PR_ALT_IDS  WHERE TRUNK = T12.TRUNK  AND ALT_ID IN ( T22.SSN,T22.ID 
))  UNION ALL 
SELECT T22.ROWID,
  T12.ROWID   FROM 
SM_NEW_LOAD T22,PR_IDENTITY T12  WHERE
  REPLACE(UPPER(T12.LASTNAME),'-',' ') =
REPLACE(UPPER(T22.LASTNAME),'-',' ')
   AND UPPER(T12.FIRSTNAME) = UPPER(T22.FIRSTNAME)  UNION ALL 
SELECT
  T23.ROWID,T13.ROWID   FROM
 SM_NEW_LOAD T23,PR_IDENTITY T13  WHERE
  REPLACE(UPPER(T13.LASTNAME),'-',' ') =
REPLACE(UPPER(T23.LASTNAME),'-',' ')
   AND ((INSTR(UPPER(T13.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T23.MIDDLENAME),1) = 1  AND
  INSTR(UPPER(T13.MIDDLENAME),UPPER(T23.FIRSTNAME),1) = 1 ) OR
  (INSTR(UPPER(T23.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T13.MIDDLENAME),1) = 1  AND
  INSTR(UPPER(T23.MIDDLENAME),UPPER(T13.FIRSTNAME),1) = 1 )) UNION ALL 
SELECT
  T24.ROWID,T14.ROWID   FROM 
SM_NEW_LOAD T24,PR_IDENTITY T14  WHERE
  UPPER(T14.LASTNAME) = UPPER(T24.FIRSTNAME)  AND UPPER(T14.FIRSTNAME) =
  UPPER(T24.LASTNAME)  UNION ALL SELECT T25.ROWID,T15.ROWID   FROM
  SM_NEW_LOAD T25,PR_IDENTITY T15  WHERE (INSTR(' ' ||
  REPLACE(UPPER(T15.LASTNAME),'-',' ')  || ' ' ,' ' ||
UPPER(T25.LASTNAME)
  || ' ' )  0  OR INSTR(' ' || REPLACE(UPPER(T25.LASTNAME),'-',' ')  ||
' ' ,
  ' ' || UPPER(T15.LASTNAME)  || ' ' )  0 ) AND UPPER(T15.FIRSTNAME) =
  UPPER(T25.FIRSTNAME)  AND (T15.MIDDLENAME IS NULL  OR T25.MIDDLENAME
IS
  NULL  OR UPPER(SUBSTR(T15.MIDDLENAME,1,1)) =
UPPER(SUBSTR(T25.MIDDLENAME,1,
  1)) ) UNION ALL 
SELECT T27.ROWID,T17.ROWID   FROM
 PR_IDENTITY T17,
  SM_NEW_LOAD T27  WHERE UPPER(T27.LASTNAME) = UPPER(T17.LASTNAME)  AND
  (INSTR(UPPER(T27.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T17.FIRSTNAME),1)  0  OR
  INSTR(UPPER(T17.FIRSTNAME),UPPER(T27.FIRSTNAME),1)  0 ) AND
  

Re: Oracle 8i/HP-UX,Solaris,Windows/Active Directory Question

2002-12-18 Thread Yechiel Adar
Thanks Jesse

I am going to start it with 9.2.0 so hopefully it will be better.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Yechiel,

 We weren't able to get OID replication to be stable for more than a few
 weeks under 9.0.1.  After a week or two, it would just flake out like it
 needed to make more than 10 or 20 connections to the DBs and it halted.
The
 only solution was to bounce OID -- not the DBs, just the LDAP part.  This
 interruption also caused problems with the replication.  In more than one
 instance, we needed to fully rebuild the slave.  Since we only have about
 1000 entries, it was no big deal to recreate (15 minutes), but unnerving
 enough that we felt that a replicated OID was not ready for a production
 environment.  Aparently, we were one of the first to attempt to use OID on
 Linux as Oracle Support didn't even have a Linux box to verify some of the
 problems we had.  They had claimed to be running replicated OID on Solaris
 (and maybe Winders -- I forget) without major problems, however, since our
 LDAP project dropped OID in favor of Sun One (with full replication), I
have
 no reason to test it.

 As far as our failover, we developed a load balancer in house that would
 automagically detect which LDAP boxes were available and use those.  For
 startup and shutdown of OID and, optionally, replication, I developed some
 scripts in Korn for our Linux boxes.  If you'd like a copy, I'll make them
 available with the standard legal disclaimers.

 Mike, check with your Oracle Sales Rep on licensing for OID.  It comes
with
 9iAS, but I don't know if it's separately licensable.  If you really
really
 really want to use Active Death -- erm, Directory -- you'll still need
to
 have OID act as a gateway between it and Oracle.  As far as the Oracle
DB's
 concerned, it only talks to OID.  Marketing will tell you that the DB
talks
 to any v3-compliant LDAP, but they don't tell you it's only thru the
 separately licensable OID.  Well, I should say by supported means
because
 a co-worker was able to get Oracle Networking to talk with Sun One by
 converting Oracle's proprietary LDIFs (don't let them tell you their LDIF
 files are fully v3-compliant!!!) to standards.  Also, be prepared to be
 GUI-fied.  There are many operations with OID, particularly in the
 installation and setup, that are GUI-only!

 Also, 7.x cannot authenticate or do names resolution to LDAP.  I'm not
sure,
 but I think that started with 8i.

 I need to stop babbling now and get back to work...  ;)

 HTH!  GL!  :)

 Rich

 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI
USA


  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 1:24 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Re: Oracle 8i/HP-UX,Solaris,Windows/Active Directory Question
 
 
  I am currently busy with the same project. Junk tnsnames.ora for OID.
  I installed OID 9.2.0.1.
  I then converted the tnsnames.ora to OID entries with no problems.
  I then tried to access the OID from 8.1.6 client and got zilch, nada,
  gurnisht etc. .
  After Deborah from Oracle Israel came in she told me that I need to
  create the Oracle Context under an entry in the root and not in the
  OID root itself. After we did that 8.1.6 and 9.2.0.1 clients worked
  with OID version 9.2.0.1.
 
  Still testing on my machine. After we solve the problem of replication
  and Failover (two OID servers with the client automatically switching
  from one to the other in case of failure (not clustering))
  I will think about moving it to the users.
 
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RE: Re: export problem ???

2002-12-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
oraora - I doubt that Import did insert that record. The message says it
skipped that record. Check the table to see whether it was inserted. What
did you set for the parameter IGNORE?

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Thanx guys for all your guidance.

Thanx Adar.

i found that an index on table 17 caused all the delay and took a 
long time to be created.

when i said

IMP FILE=ABC.DAT INDEXES=N ROWS=Y

i was able to get all the tables.
but still,while importing i get the error

IMP-00019: row rejected due to ORACLE error 1401
IMP-3: ORACLE error 1401 encountered
ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column
Column 1 1110384
Column 2 15798
Column 3 D
Column 4 ++
Column 5 candy

this causes a few rows to be skipped in some table.

- ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column -

if this is true , it should not have allowed
that particular row to be inserted while doing INSERT  ?

why does this occur while importing ?

can someone explain me ?

TIA.
Jp.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 Yechiel Adar wrote :
Hello

After building a table the import builds constraint and 
indexes.
If you got a big table that can take awhile.
Check with task/performance monitor if the instance is idle or 
working.

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  guys,
 
  i am exporting a DB of size 10G.
  it totally has 33 tables.
  everything completes succesfully and even the log file
  says EXPORT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
 
  But while importing it,only 17 tables are imported.
  after that the cursor stands still and the import does
  not process further.the remaining 16 tables are not imported
  at all.
 
  why is it so ? have any of you come across such situation ?
 
  will datafiles of size greater than 2G cause such problem ?
 
  the DB is on oracle 8.1.6/Win2k.
 
  kindly let me know guys.
 
  TIA.
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Re: Online Redifinition in 8i ?

2002-12-18 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Not all that hard - but I don't like the bit that starts
update obj$ set 


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No.

You could probably simulate something close with a lot
of hard work

hth
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Unable to load shared libraries.

2002-12-18 Thread Panicker, Thankam S.
Jared,

I installed the development tools and that worked!! 

Thanks
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Re: Direct Path Inserts and Partition Splits

2002-12-18 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Which version of Oracle ? 8.1 or 9.2 ?

It could make a difference because of
the 'free split' change in code that appeared
in 9.2.


I don't recall the error I got - but some time
back I was working on a partition exchange
strategy and testing the effects of tablespace
corruption in mid-exchange. One of the scenarios
I built managed to leave me with a partition in
a non-existent tablespace, but the partition could
not be dropped because it didn't exist. Clearly
some form of dictionary corruption on partition
maintenance - so there are some oddities to
be cleaned.

It might also be an idea to check of the OCI
program manages to hold a cursor open
that should have been invalidated on the split.
Is it possible that when suspended, the
program then pushed its current data set into
a partition/data segment that simply did not
exist in the data dictionary ?


Can you add a little detail about the structure of
the PT and its missing elements.  Do you have
multiple partitions per day, with some giving 8103
when queried by name; or is it one partition per
day, but queries which extend into the gap give
the 8103 ?

Have you tried running with a level 4 on 10046
yet to see the actual dictionary accesses that
Oracle attempts when looking for the critical
data (probably have to bounce the database to
get the best effects here); of checked the contents
of the obj$, and related tables around the object
numbers and data object numbers of the damaged
bits to see if there is any data there that does not
fit the pattern ?


I tend to disagree with your comment about splitting
on the fly being silly, by the way - as soon as Oracle
introduced MAXVALUE, they introduced an implicit
requirement either for an unbreakable mechanism
for doing a split in real-time, or for a mechanism for
shunting data above the current high_value into a
holding table.  (Requiring end-user code to handle
rogue data would otherwise introduce a significant
overhead on processing times).




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A program inserts via OCI DirectPath telemetry data into a time-based
partition every 30 seconds, each insert acquiring an exclusive lock on
the table.  The users decided to further split the partition receiving
the inserts by time.  Each of the new partitions is stale, by that I
mean their high values are all previous to the present data.   The
split was done on December 4th carved out partitions for November 26,
27, 28, 29, and 30.  While the split is going on, the program
buffered the next inserts.  Once the split is done the program
continues its inserts into the original partition.  (During the split
Oracle acquires locks which  prevent data manipulation)

I realize that splitting a partition on the fly like this is a silly
thing to do.  It was never going to be part of the production system.
However I was not sure if doing so would work.  We tried it and the
result may have been  data dictionary corruption; i.e.,  ORA-8103
errors.  Data in the November 26, November 27, about 22.5 hours of
November 28, November 29, November 30  and the input partition remain
visible.  It's only the 1/5 hours of the November 28th partition which
is inaccessible.  In a way it's very much like a block corruption
problem.Some additional information:  all objects in the database
are valid, all indexes are usable, besides there were no indexes
involved in the split operation.  DBV  reports no problem with any of
the database files.


Oracle support also blames it on the split activity.  I am anxious
because there is a big push to put this system into production.  I
need to be sure the corruption was caused by the split.  We won't be
that silly again.  Unfortunately the corruption was not discovered
immediately afterwards.   The split as the cause is really just a
guess.   Has anyone else seen unexplained 8103 errors after partition
management?


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RE: Larry E's new toy ?

2002-12-18 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Yes, reality check:

If you're making less than US$50,000 per day, you're not a member of the
upper class.

So save your pennies.

; )

Patrice Boivin
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Chicken feed.
Only 100,000,000$

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RE: slow query help

2002-12-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Joan - Just a random thought inspired by your explanation. Is this query a
part of cleaning data for a data warehouse? Or worse yet, is the developer
attempting to use this query in an attempt to avoid creating a data
warehouse? Normally the best solution for the situation you describe is to
create a data warehouse. If those words scare you, just say that it is a
couple of tables to provide cleaned data. Then you can pull data from one
system at a time, clean it, and store it. Based on your description, be
aware that even if the query is made to work, as my grandpappy would say
with bailing wire and chewing gum, it may be very fragile and need
constant attention. Developers have this nasty habit of moving along to the
next development project and you, the DBA, are stuck with a problem. The
developer gets all the glory for making it work. You get all the blame
because it keeps breaking. Not pretty. Anyway, this is what I got out of
your explanation, and if I'm off base, just ignore this message.
Dennis Williams
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Mark,
This is a new in-house developed  the school directory system. The
source data come from all over the different systems. The data quite
dirty in some case. I am not sure how the business rule was defined yet.
The developer knew her query was nasty, so she turned on me for help.
This query is part of the whole process. As you said, it compares all
the possible same person feed from all the systems (med, sis,law...)and
insert it to another table. I think you and Stephane's suggestions are
very valuable and I will definitely ask her to review her design of this
processing. (sigh, we are not that experienced and good on this) After I
work more with developer and get more knowledge of this application. I'd
like to ask some detail of your experience in such searching logic.

many thanks,

Joan 


Mark Richard wrote:
 
 I tend to agree with Stephane...
 
 It looks like that query was possibly generated by a tool.  If not you
 should go talk to the person who wrote it.  Find out what the business
 rules are and write it from scratch.  In reality the query keeps hitting
 the same two tables, presumably looking for rows that have just been
loaded
 which match existing rows in another table based on the names matching in
 some fashion (ie: perhaps incorrect firstname/middlename usage, etc).
 
 Some of Stephane's suggestions will also help.  We store customer names as
 case sensitive but we obviously need to do a case-insensitive search from
 our application to find customers.  The easiest way out - store the name
 twice (we have firstname and firstnameasupper, lastname and
 lastnameasupper, etc).  Obviously the indexes sit on the asupper
columns.
 Sure there is a slight amount of duplicated data, but it is done for a
 reason and let's us search customers very fast whist still preserving the
 nuance's that customers like to see when you send a bill to them.
 
 Perhaps you need to store some columns which have had replace and
upper
 applied.  Finally since the query seems to accept pretty much any
 combination of lastname, firstname, middlename you could concatenate the
 three columns into a namesearch column are just perform three instr
 searches on that column, as opposed to trying every possibility - that
 should save Oracle some heartache.
 
 Regards,
  Mark.
 
 
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 Joan Hsieh wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  This is the query bothered us very much recently. It run at least 15
  min. and sometimes crashed the temp tablespace. Do you have any idea how
  to make it run better. Our developer tried used two cursors to compare
  the result, but the result is not optimized. We tried used last name and
  first name function based index on sm_new_load table.  If someone
  interested in this query, I can sent you the execution plan.
  Thanks in advanced,
 
  Joan
 
  SELECT T11.TRUNK TRUNK_FOUND,T21.ID TARGET_ID,T21.SSN
  TARGET_SSN,T21.FULLNAME
TARGET_FULLNAME,T21.LASTNAME TARGET_LASTNAME,T21.MIDDLENAME
TARGET_MIDDLENAME,T21.FIRSTNAME TARGET_FIRSTNAME,T21.DOB TARGET_DOB,
T21.GENDER TARGET_GENDER
  FROM
   SM_NEW_LOAD T21,PR_IDENTITY T11  WHERE ( T21.ROWID,T11.ROWID  ) IN
  (SELECT
T22.ROWID,T12.ROWID   FROM
  PR_IDENTITY T12,SM_NEW_LOAD T22  WHERE T22.SSN
IN ( T12.SSN,T12.HRID,SISID,MEDID,AFFID  ) OR T22.ID IN (
  T12.SSN,T12.HRID,
SISID,MEDID,AFFID  ) OR EXISTS  

Re: db block Size for Indexes Tablespaces in 9.2 ?

2002-12-18 Thread Jonathan Lewis

I think there are too many generic arguments
available for picking the 'right' block size for
your indexes.

The one that is most appropriate is likely to
depend on the nature of the activity (load
vs. query), nature of the index (unique,
nearly unique, far from unique), data clustering,
order of data arrival, frequency of data arrival,
pattern of data deletion/update, stability of volume,
nature of queries (big or small range scans),
potential of modifying number of branches,
buffering effects, and whether or not you are
using a filesystem with or without direct i/o.

Given another 10 minutes I might come up
with a few more ideas.

Your strategy should be to identify the extreme,
and critical, characteristics of your system and
play to them - small block size may be appropriate,
reverse indexes may be appropriate, getting rid of
the synthetic key that is likely to cause a problem
may be appropriate. But don't assume that anything
as trivial as tweaking a block size is a driving
feature of making your index work well.

Which test case would you like to see - the one
I did for company X that showed they needed a
small block size, or the one I did for company Y
that showed they needed a large block size ?


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Hi Arup , List

Your point is Correct about High buffer busy wait Contention During
Large OLTP Insert /Updates.

High buffer busy wait on Corresponding INDEX during INSERT
Operations was Observed
during our previous benchmark which overcame by Converting to REVERSE
Index as the Field Value
was Sequentially Increasing .

Following Article advocates HIGHER Block Size for Index , Strangely
:-

http://www.tusc.com/oracle/download/author.html#loneyk

What may be the Commonly followed Best practice for DB_BLOCK_SIZE for
Index Tablespaces in 9.2 ?

Thanks



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RE: db block Size for Indexes Tablespaces in 9.2 ?

2002-12-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: db block Size for Indexes Tablespaces  in 9.2 ?





We use 8k for data and 8k for indexes in our OLTP system ...


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RE: Oracle Application Server on .net

2002-12-18 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
There is a good paper on .NET at www.arstechnica.com, right-hand column.

Patrice Boivin
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The way it was explained to me was that Windows.net or Windows .NET server 
 is an OS,
while .net is a framework or topology ( don't really know much about it).

Was that incorrect?

Don't really care too much, just want to make proper use of buzzwords at 
meetings.

Jared






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Net does refer to an OS (in addition to referring to a platform / group of 
languages).

To see some information from Oracle on this have a look at
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_id=16
1546.1p_database_id=NOT
This includes ...In the future Microsoft will be delivering server 
editions of Windows XP, these will use the Windows .NET Server naming 
convention. ...

To see some details on Microsoft's web site look at
http://www.microsoft.com/windows.netserver/default.mspx Windows .NET Server
2003 Release Candidate 2 is here.

You can download it from
http://www.microsoft.com/windows.netserver/preview/default.mspx

What error does the developer doing the install get?

Regards,
Bruce Reardon

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Net is not an OS. The developer (here it comes) doesn't know what he's 
talking about.
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List: 
I have a developer trying to install Oracle9i Application Server Release 2 
(9.0.3) on a .net server.  He's using the install disk for Windows NT and 
2000.  Needless to say, it gives him an error and throws up. 
He considers .net just another operating system like np or 2000.  I think 
of it more like a competitor for OAS.  At any rate, I can't find any 
mention of .net on either Metalink or OTN (except how much better OAS is 
than .net) 
Does anyone know if Oracle has an application server installation for 
.net?  If so, do you know how I might get it?  Is this a silly question? 
Should I be hanging my head in shame?? 
Thanks in advance for any information. 
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RE: OT: OS/2 is officially dead as of Dec 10, 2002

2002-12-18 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Do they have to pay licensing fees to Microsoft for win-os/2 I wonder.

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Patrice,

Tuesday, December 17, 2002, 2:40:38 PM, you wrote:

B http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,767456,00.asp

The reports of OS/2's death are somewhat exaggerated:

http://www.russharvey.bc.ca/rhc/os2/ecs.html

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RE: slow query help

2002-12-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: slow query help





Joan,


Here is a suggestion ...
if this is going to be your most used part, I'd look into Intermedia ... you'll have a lot more options to work with and they will work good.

Until then, I'd recommend replacing instr() with appropriate LIKE clause because at-least it will help you use an index. Through a DB trigger ensure that all names (first/middle/last) are always in UPPER so you don't have to pur UPPER or deal with FBI.

Initially I thought of merging all clauses into one, but then I realized, Oracle will end up doing what I un-did (it will replace all OR conditions to UNION ALL anyways).

Happy Holidays Everyone !!
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RE: Re: export problem ???

2002-12-18 Thread Ron Rogers
oraora,
 Did the original export come from a database that you have access to?
Check the description on the table that had failed to insert some rows.
The original source table has different sizes on the columns than the
tables you are importing into, That is why some records are getting
rejected as ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column

Ron

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oraora - I doubt that Import did insert that record. The message says
it
skipped that record. Check the table to see whether it was inserted.
What
did you set for the parameter IGNORE?

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Thanx guys for all your guidance.

Thanx Adar.

i found that an index on table 17 caused all the delay and took a 
long time to be created.

when i said

IMP FILE=ABC.DAT INDEXES=N ROWS=Y

i was able to get all the tables.
but still,while importing i get the error

IMP-00019: row rejected due to ORACLE error 1401
IMP-3: ORACLE error 1401 encountered
ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column
Column 1 1110384
Column 2 15798
Column 3 D
Column 4 ++
Column 5 candy

this causes a few rows to be skipped in some table.

- ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column -

if this is true , it should not have allowed
that particular row to be inserted while doing INSERT  ?

why does this occur while importing ?

can someone explain me ?

TIA.
Jp.

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 Yechiel Adar wrote :
Hello

After building a table the import builds constraint and 
indexes.
If you got a big table that can take awhile.
Check with task/performance monitor if the instance is idle or 
working.

Yechiel Adar
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  guys,
 
  i am exporting a DB of size 10G.
  it totally has 33 tables.
  everything completes succesfully and even the log file
  says EXPORT COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING.
 
  But while importing it,only 17 tables are imported.
  after that the cursor stands still and the import does
  not process further.the remaining 16 tables are not imported
  at all.
 
  why is it so ? have any of you come across such situation ?
 
  will datafiles of size greater than 2G cause such problem ?
 
  the DB is on oracle 8.1.6/Win2k.
 
  kindly let me know guys.
 
  TIA.
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Re: Open the password

2002-12-18 Thread Ron Rogers
Connect as the DBA and change the SYS and SYSTEM passwords.
Recreate the ORAPWD file.
Just a few suggestions.
Ron

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I already installed oracle 8i database on my server, to make my
system secured I changed my 'INTERNAL' password but I forget to write
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changed in my book, and now I can't enter to 'INTERNAL' because I
forget the
password. Please inform me how to open it again perhaps you have tips
and
tricks how to solve it.

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Re: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back them up
the backups will be unusable.

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 Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to Tape.

 Another option is using ufsdump commnand .

 Regards
 Dilmohan

 Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:

  Dear List,
 
  We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
  Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
 
  I did use tar command:
 
  tar c8v1 /home/oradata
 
  It's working properly but the problem is:
 
  tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
  The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
  more than 2GB.
 
  So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
 
  Could any body in the list give me the alternative
  command of tar that can handle backup of large files
  or any other solution...
 
  because I want to schedule this process.
 
  Your help will be appreciated.
 
  Regards,
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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Igor Neyman



Happy digesting :-)

sorry, Jared, - couldn't resist

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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Stephen Lee

I will add a vote for cpio.  I have found it to be so reliable that I used
cpio, instead of a dump utility, to back up Unix boxes.  It never failed.
In the past, I found that tar had filename length limitation that was
shorter than what the OS permitted (80 characters iirc -- that's filename,
not path).  This happened when I worked in a development environment that
used Rogue Wave tools.  During software builds, files would be generated
with ridiculously long names, and tar could not handle these.  Time has
passed since the days I had to backup Unix servers, but iirc cpio could
correctly handle all types of special files (devices, etc.), and tar could
not (as I said, iirc).

If you are just experimenting, there is another utility called pax, which is
latin for peace, the idea being that it will bring peace to the Tar Wars
where tar2d2 is always fighting c3pio.  I get the impression that neither
group was willing to abandon its favorite utility and adopt pax, so the
fight goes on.


 -Original Message-
 
 Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying 
 files to Tape.
 
 Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
 
  We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
  Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
 
  I did use tar command:
 
  tar c8v1 /home/oradata
 
  It's working properly but the problem is:
 
  tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
  The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
  more than 2GB.
 
  So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
 
  Could any body in the list give me the alternative
  command of tar that can handle backup of large files
  or any other solution...
 
  because I want to schedule this process.
 
  Your help will be appreciated.
 
  Regards,
  ashraf salaymeh
  System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
 
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RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Hand, Michael T

One thing I don't think I've seen mentioned is the issue of storage
configuration and uptime requirements impact on capacity planning.  Is the
planned system 7x24 or will there be maintenance windows to add storage?
Can storage be added hot or is downtime required.  These issues will require
the fudge factor to be adjusted accordingly.

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One problem I've run into when doing some rudimentary cap planning is that
much of it is directly related to how much business our Sales force predicts
we will generate next year.  I've looked at the growth of our general ledger
tables and our sales order tables and it's mostly driven by the amount of
business we do (we manufacture printing controls).  So, some insight into
the business by Sales or other company execs may help, too.

That, and a fudge factor.  One of our larger audit tables had 300% more rows
in 2000 than in 1999 because of planned inventory moves used in implementing
lean manufacturing.  No way I could have predicted that one, but a fudge
factor softened the blow a bit.

Just my $.02 (before taxes),
Rich


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Re: OAS 4.0.8.1 move

2002-12-18 Thread James Howerton
Kurt,

If the ip address/hostname are not identical on the new box it won't
run, you have to re-install it from cd. All of the network configs are
hard coded during install and there is no way to change them. I went
through this a couple of years ago when the SA changed the ip address to
a 10 .10...  on a dev box. 

...JIM...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 5:43:42 AM 
I have a 4.0.8.1 Oracle Application Server implementation on a Solaris
2 .6
box
that I am trying to move to a new, presumably identical, box.  We are
moving
it
by simply copying all of the datafiles from one box to the other.  We
can
not
get it to start!  If any one can offer a suggestion, it would be
appreciated.  Our
current problem (after issuing owsctl start) is:
-
Please wait while the command is being processed on host frog ...
Starting ORB process...
waiting for ORB to be ready...
ORB is not responding. Please restart manually...
OWS-20214: The OAS processes can not be started, because the CORBA orb

processes can not be started.
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there is an associated file, oasoorb674.out, which contains:

YDUT-1571, ydcnm.c 789: unexpected IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0
from 
yocdii.c 720
YDUT-1571, ydcnm.c 493: unexpected IDL:omg.org/CORBA/NO_PERMISSION:1.0
from 
yocdii.c 720
Init function of module ydn returned an error
ERROR: load of module ydn failed
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The only differences between the boxes are the IP and the 'name
resolution'.
The source box
uses dns first but the target box resolves names locally first and then
uses
dns.  The nodenames
are the same.
owsctl start -nodemgr  works
owsctl status -T works

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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Ok, I'll ask the obligatory 'Are you stupid?'

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Re: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Jose Luis Delgado
Hi!!

Check for the -K option of the TAR command...
is for supporting files  2 Gb...

if you do not have that option, you could use CPIO

HTH
JL

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 Dear List,
 
 We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
 Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
 
 I did use tar command:
 
 tar c8v1 /home/oradata
 
 It's working properly but the problem is:
 
 tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
 The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
 more than 2GB.
 
 So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
 
 Could any body in the list give me the alternative
 command of tar that can handle backup of large files
 or any other solution...
 
 because I want to schedule this process.
 
 Your help will be appreciated.
 
 
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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread John Weatherman
Ruth,

Does this mean hot backups don't work for UnixWare 7.1?  Otherwise, cp,
cpio, ufsdump or any other method of copying the disk file from location a
to location b should be ok, shouldn't it?

John


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Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back them up
the backups will be unusable.

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 Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to Tape.

 Another option is using ufsdump commnand .

 Regards
 Dilmohan

 Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:

  Dear List,
 
  We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
  Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
 
  I did use tar command:
 
  tar c8v1 /home/oradata
 
  It's working properly but the problem is:
 
  tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
  The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
  more than 2GB.
 
  So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
 
  Could any body in the list give me the alternative
  command of tar that can handle backup of large files
  or any other solution...
 
  because I want to schedule this process.
 
  Your help will be appreciated.
 
  Regards,
  ashraf salaymeh
  System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
 
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Oracle bug 2316137

2002-12-18 Thread Glenn Stauffer
We've just started experiencing a problem where a client-server Forms
4.5 application hangs and then produces this error:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kksscl-inf-inl-loop],
[1500], [0], [1], [41], [41], [], []

Our database is version 9.2 and we found reference to a bug on metalink,
2316137, though we can't see the details.  We are planning an off-hours
upgrade to 9.2.0.2 which is said to fix this problem; in the meantime,
we can clear up the condition causing this error by bouncing the
instance.  Then things work for a while until the error starts to occur
again (last time it cleared up for about a week).  

Since it is several weeks before I can get the downtime to apply the
upgrade, I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with this problem
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Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Jared,
Can you send me the script you use.  I can't even figure out the syntax for
DBMS_SPACE from the docs.  I would be very grateful
Ruth
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I use DBMS_SPACE to calculate the actual size of all data objects
in our SAP databases.  The data is collected once a week.

Once a month I use the collected data to create an aggregate
table via Oracle's linear regression and partitioning SQL operators.

Run the projections for the current month, end of year, the 2 following
6 month periods, put the data in excel and chart it.

Earlier this year my projection for SAP running out of space was 6/28/02.

There were some delays in getting the new storage hardware installed.

Guess which day we ran out of space?  ;)

That was just dumb luck that it happened the same day, but now people
believe my projections. :)

I opted for the use of DBMS_SPACE, as that is the best way to find out
how much space is actually being used for data.   I didn't care about
allocated empty blocks, or how big the tablespaces were.

There's now about 14 months of data for this, and though growth is not
alwasy linear, it's still better than a SWAG.

Jared





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Hello All,

It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have
taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in
our case both of them are directly proportional. ( Business objects may
vary
from shop to shop )

first step I have done is calculating the : Growth factor = avg. History
Db
growth / avg Hist Sales growth

Second Step : identifying the Sales projection for the next fiscal year (
Ie. I have to get sales growth percentage from the business team , for
example 15% and multiply with sales history, for each week I guess.)

3rd step: Now I have sales projection and growth Factor , and can the
projected DB growth .


Well The above is the thing I am working on by having some queries to get
the data from the DB. Also I have to automate the whole process .

I would like to know how this Capacity planning followed in your shop.
What's your answer when your group manager asks how much disk we need for
holiday prep ?? Like this we can have many questions. I know somebody is
having a better approach getting followed . Would appreciate if you share
with us.

or somebody can better help me in identifying  the Q? from managers


Thank YOU all for your replies
Madhu


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Check the link Kirti has posted (orapub).

Is capacity planning only on the database size ?
In my mind it also includes :
   Transaction description (online and batch)
   Transaction frequency (online and batch)
   Transaction window
   Networking requirements
   Number of users (all and concurrent)
   Overall disk space (inside and outside the
database)
   Availability





 --- Reddy, Madhusudana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Hello All,

 I am currently working on capacity planning of the
 database , expecting the
 database size based on the business object ,sales (
 Historical data). I am
 not sure about the approach I am following . I
 believe there might be some
 better approach followed in some shop to estimate
 the DB size , even by
 considering events like thanks giving , holiday
 season and all.

 Also I have to automate this process. Would like to
 know some best
 suggestions you always have  in this forum. Would
 you help me in identifying
 some formulae. Any kind of documentation will be a
 great help !!!

 Thanks in advance,

 Madhu





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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Yechiel Adar



DUAL

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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Kevin Lange
Bob;
  I do have a set of sqlplus scripts that we wrote for 7.3.4 that generate
DDL for objects in the database.  

So, you can write your own.   All the neccessary information is in the
catalog.

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I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
methods to get DDL other than
Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
bob

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RE: Online Redifinition in 8i ?

2002-12-18 Thread Shao, Chunning
if you use perl on your site, I can send you my perl scripts, which I copied from from 
9i DBMS_REDEF.

hth


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No.

You could probably simulate something close with a lot
of hard work

hth
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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Simon . Anderson

There are scripts out there that will do the job, though most of them start
to fall down if the indexes are at all unusual.

I bought a book a couple of years ago with a whole selection of scripts to
create ddl for database objects - It should still be available on Amazon.

Cheers
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Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Charlie_Mengler

Again, why NO Oracle version specified?

If on 9i DB, then use DBMS_METADATA


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Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
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Re[2]: OT: OS/2 is officially dead as of Dec 10, 2002

2002-12-18 Thread Robert Eskridge
Patrice,

I really don't know much about it.  I  just remembered a feeling of
shock and wonderment when I was reading a webpage where someone was
installing eComStation.  I just wanted to pass that same wonderment
along  :-)

-rje

BPJ Do they have to pay licensing fees to Microsoft for win-os/2 I wonder.


B http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,767456,00.asp

BPJ The reports of OS/2's death are somewhat exaggerated:

BPJ http://www.russharvey.bc.ca/rhc/os2/ecs.html

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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Bob Metelsky

Eekk!

Sorry -  8.17 on win2k


 
 Again, why NO Oracle version specified?
 
 If on 9i DB, then use DBMS_METADATA
 
 
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Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Bob Metelsky
I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
methods to get DDL other than
Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
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OT: Informix backups

2002-12-18 Thread Gene Sais

The SysAdmin is backing up the filesystems/raw partitions where the informix db 
resides w/out putting the db in hot backup mode.  He was told by a consultant, all you 
have to do is backup the informix logs and db files for full recovery.  As an Oracle 
DBA and not familiar w/ informix, is this informix db backup recoverable?

Thanks,
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RE: Oracle bug 2316137

2002-12-18 Thread david hill
Title: RE: Oracle bug 2316137





You could always install oracle in another oracle home, Patch that home 
Then all you need is 1 min down time to shutdown the db and bring it up with the other patched oracle.


-Original Message-
From: Glenn Stauffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Oracle bug 2316137


We've just started experiencing a problem where a client-server Forms
4.5 application hangs and then produces this error:


ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kksscl-inf-inl-loop],
[1500], [0], [1], [41], [41], [], []


Our database is version 9.2 and we found reference to a bug on metalink,
2316137, though we can't see the details. We are planning an off-hours
upgrade to 9.2.0.2 which is said to fix this problem; in the meantime,
we can clear up the condition causing this error by bouncing the
instance. Then things work for a while until the error starts to occur
again (last time it cleared up for about a week). 


Since it is several weeks before I can get the downtime to apply the
upgrade, I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with this problem
and whether there is a temporary fix short of updating the Oracle
software.


Thanks
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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Igor Neyman
I thought, it was:

ARE YOU AN IDIOT? :-)

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Re:RE: password

2002-12-18 Thread dgoulet
Anyone know who that hacker is??

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Yes, you can do this, but it still doesn't tell you the users *current*
password does it?

Has anyone tried:

http://home.earthlink.net/~adamshalon/oracle_password_cracker/

?

Mark
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  And you can use it to change it to your convenience and later
  get this encrypted password IN without the knowledge of
  the user..

  Regards
  Jai


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  nope u can get the encripted password from the oracle dictionáry
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  Check the post-it note on their monitor?

  :)
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  he can't but he can change it to a new one and then put the old back on
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  how can a dba see the password of a user.



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Re:RE: password

2002-12-18 Thread dgoulet
Try this sql script:

/*
 *  DBA Skeleton Key
 *
 *  This script will allow one to crash into any Oracle account.
 *  The only restriction is that the invoker must have the
 *  'alter any user' system priviledge.
 */
 
accept usrname char prompt 'Enter account name to crack: '
set verify off
break on name
column gname new_value _name  noprint
select substr(global_name,1,instr(global_name,'.')-1)gname
from global_name;
clear breaks
break on password
column password new_value _pwd noprint
select password from dba_users
where username = upper('usrname');
alter user usrname identified by dummy;
connect usrname/dummy@_name
alter user usrname identified by values '_pwd';
@login


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Check the post-it note on their monitor?

:)
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Itanium 2

2002-12-18 Thread david hill
Title: Itanium 2





Has anybody out there tried and Itanium 2 system?
I read that oracle is supposed to certify 9i on it at the end of the month. 
But I was wondering if anybody had installed one of the Developer Release's.
If so what kind of performance did it give you? Anywhere close to what Intel is claiming?





RE: Stored procedure memory problem

2002-12-18 Thread Fink, Dan
Venu,
Another issue to be concerned about is the possibility of
encountering an ORA-1555 error. This error may be triggered by a condition
called 'Fetch Across Commits'. The cursor must maintain read consistency
while it is open. If you are updating the source data and the undo entries
are overwritten (assuming you commit periodically), then a read consistent
version cannot be created. There are two docs/presentations to review. The
first is 'Cats Dogs and ORA-01555' which is available at
www.evdbt.com/papers.htm. The other is 'UNDO Internals' at
www.optimaldba.com/library.html.

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A small question to all gurus on the list...

I have a stored procedure (SP) which runs at specific intervals. It
fetches a list of user names and few (2 columns) of their details into a
cursor and processes them one by one in a cursor FOR loop.

Now my question is, Is there a chance of the SP running out of memory
when the number of users increases (may be a few hundreds of thousands).
If yes how to estimate the maximum number of user names my cursor can
handle? Is there any calculation for this? How to overcome this problem?
Is there anything else that has to be taken into account when doing
this?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Arup Nanda
Oracle Enterprise Manager 9.2 version has it. Right click on the object and
choose Show Object DDL

If you use 9.2, you can use dbms_metadata.get_ddl procedure.

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 I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
 methods to get DDL other than
 Export rows=n
 Using Quest SQL navigator
 Using The Databee tool

 Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
 that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
 either...


 Im wondering what methods people are using?
 I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

 Thanks in advance
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Re: db block Size for Indexes Tablespaces in 9.2 ?

2002-12-18 Thread Arup Nanda



I have a rule - don'thand out advise with 
limited information - it may be "factually challenged". and sometimes I break my 
own rules - as in this case. But then again, this is not "advise"; merely my 
opinion based on the very limited background information I had.

I agree - the panacea to an index "buffer busy 
waits" is not simply the block size; rather a complex co-determination of 
several factors and solutions like reverse key indexes, block size, free lists, 
elimination of synthetic keys, the load pattern, etc. But given 
that


  selects are 60% of the queries
  transaction rate is high to very high
  OLTP is primary for performance 
tuning

what options do we have? Elimination of synthetic 
keys _MAY_ not be an option in this case, due to third party application, etc. 
Reverse key Indexes have their own problems - they consume more space and 
sometimes the optimizer does a index fullscan instead of a row get. So the 
only thing a DBA can possibly do at this time is in block sizes. Again, this is, 
of course, my assumption.

So given the information by the questioner - the 
biggest bang for the buck is by specifying the smaller block size. It may 
however be different if a bench mark is performed at the site using the specific 
customer profile.

As to the article, Vivek, I read it thoroughly and 
I still stand by what I said. The author primarily advocates that


  more blevels are bad for performance
  a higher block size contains more rows per 
  block
  more rows implies less blevel
  and, therefore, a large block size implies better 
  performance

However, this probably ignores the buffer busy 
waits condition. More rows in a block implies that two sessions are more likely 
to access rows in the same block - creating a buffer busy condition - more so in 
a RAC environment. So I advocate less number of rows in a block. The author also 
relies heavily on the index rebuilds a lot to eliminate the blevels, not just 
block sizes.

Caveat - see the most waits occurring in your 
system - if after a smaller block size your index "db file sequential read" 
increases, then you are better off using a larger block size and suffer buffer 
busy waits. Benchmark, benchmark. There is no substitute for benchmark specific 
to your situation.

In my shop, we have 9.2 in a DW environment where 
the block size is the same (16K) for indexes and tables. For other two OLTP 
based apps, I have defined 8K tables and 4K indexes for a third party app. I did 
a benchmark to see the effects and that was the conclusion. Unfortunately I 
didn't save it.

HTH.

Arup Nanda


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Subject: Re: db block Size for Indexes Tablespaces 
in 9.2 ?
  I think there are too many generic arguments 
available for picking the 'right' block size for your indexes. 
 The one that is most appropriate is likely to depend on the 
nature of the activity (load vs. query), nature of the index 
(unique, nearly unique, far from unique), data clustering, order 
of data arrival, frequency of data arrival, pattern of data 
deletion/update, stability of volume, nature of queries (big or small 
range scans), potential of modifying number of branches, 
buffering effects, and whether or not you are using a filesystem with or 
without direct i/o.  Given another 10 minutes I might come 
up with a few more ideas.  Your strategy should be to 
identify the extreme, and critical, characteristics of your system 
and play to them - small block size may be appropriate, reverse 
indexes may be appropriate, getting rid of the synthetic key that is 
likely to cause a problem may be appropriate. But don't assume that 
anything as trivial as tweaking a block size is a driving 
feature of making your index work well.  Which test case would 
you like to see - the one I did for company X that showed they needed 
a small block size, or the one I did for company Y that showed 
they needed a large block size ?   Regards 
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 Your point is Correct about High "buffer busy wait" Contention 
During Large OLTP Insert /Updates.  High "buffer 
busy wait" on Corresponding INDEX during INSERT Operations was 
Observed during our previous benchmark which overcame by Converting 
to REVERSE Index as the Field Value was Sequentially 
Increasing .  Following Article advocates HIGHER Block 
Size for Index , Strangely :-  

RE: slow query help

2002-12-18 Thread Nicoll, Iain
Raj,
 
I thought it would only do the union all if it was able to use an index and
all the instr's look as though they'd stop that.  Even then I thought it was
generally just rule that would do that unless you used the use_concat hint.

 
I can't see why a full table scan of each wouldn't be fairly efficient
unless the result set is only a small fraction of the total possible rows.  
 
I may have missed some e-mails which make the above statements irrevelant,
if so my apologies.
 
Iain
 
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Joan, 

Here is a suggestion ... 
if this is going to be your most used part, I'd look into Intermedia ...
you'll have a lot more options to work with and they will work good.

Until then, I'd recommend replacing instr() with appropriate LIKE clause
because at-least it will help you use an index. Through a DB trigger ensure
that all names (first/middle/last) are always in UPPER so you don't have to
pur UPPER or deal with FBI.

Initially I thought of merging all clauses into one, but then I realized,
Oracle will end up doing what I un-did (it will replace all OR conditions to
UNION ALL anyways).

Happy Holidays Everyone !! 
Raj 
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RE: Oracle bug 2316137

2002-12-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Oracle bug 2316137





If you have cursor_sharing=force ... can you use cursor_sharing=exact and see if the error reproduces? I think (and I could be wrong) that this setting will at-least buy you some time.

Search for 'kksscl-inf-inl-loop' including bug database, you'll find many references. Basically it means the process has gone into an infinite loop scanning shared cursors. 

Have you talked to OWS ... time to call them.
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Subject: Oracle bug 2316137



We've just started experiencing a problem where a client-server Forms
4.5 application hangs and then produces this error:


ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kksscl-inf-inl-loop],
[1500], [0], [1], [41], [41], [], []


Our database is version 9.2 and we found reference to a bug on metalink,
2316137, though we can't see the details. We are planning an off-hours
upgrade to 9.2.0.2 which is said to fix this problem; in the meantime,
we can clear up the condition causing this error by bouncing the
instance. Then things work for a while until the error starts to occur
again (last time it cleared up for about a week). 


Since it is several weeks before I can get the downtime to apply the
upgrade, I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with this problem
and whether there is a temporary fix short of updating the Oracle
software.


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Re: career questions

2002-12-18 Thread Peter Barnett
I have gone the consulting route three times in my
career.  Here are some observations in no particular
order of importance.

Solo is a tough way to go.  You have to find the
business and do the work.  Either, done right is a
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bus.  After the project was successfully implemented,
18 months later, I asked her why she had hired me over
all of the people with Oracle experience.  Her answer
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lucky assignment opened a whole new career for me.  

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bond as a consultant.

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can deliver the kind of assignments that are good for
your career.  I worked at one for about six months in
a variety of different assignments.  Some Oracle, some
not.  When I complained about the lack of consistent
Oracle work, one of my coworkers laid it all out for
me, This is a good place to work if you are a money
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iAS 1.0.2.2.2a vs 9iR2 db

2002-12-18 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I know this is probably hopeless, but has anyone managed to let the Oracle
Portal Configuration Assistant bundled with iAS 1.0.2.2.2a for win32 connect
to a 9i database?

It wants to connect as SYS, and of course 9i only wants sys to connect as
sysdba.

This if for my home sandbox PC, I don't have enough RAM on it to install ias
9iR2, so I am trying to jam iAS 1.0.2.2.2a in there.

If connections to 9i are not possible I suppose I will have to use
8.1.7.4.6. for that machine.

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Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Thanks, Dave!  I just started looking into using DBMS_SPACE.
Ruth
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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:14 AM


Ruth, have you seen this doc on metastink?  It might be helpful.

Note:116923.1

Dave

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Jared,
Can you send me the script you use.  I can't even figure out the syntax for
DBMS_SPACE from the docs.  I would be very grateful
Ruth
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:58 PM


I use DBMS_SPACE to calculate the actual size of all data objects
in our SAP databases.  The data is collected once a week.

Once a month I use the collected data to create an aggregate
table via Oracle's linear regression and partitioning SQL operators.

Run the projections for the current month, end of year, the 2 following
6 month periods, put the data in excel and chart it.

Earlier this year my projection for SAP running out of space was 6/28/02.

There were some delays in getting the new storage hardware installed.

Guess which day we ran out of space?  ;)

That was just dumb luck that it happened the same day, but now people
believe my projections. :)

I opted for the use of DBMS_SPACE, as that is the best way to find out
how much space is actually being used for data.   I didn't care about
allocated empty blocks, or how big the tablespaces were.

There's now about 14 months of data for this, and though growth is not
alwasy linear, it's still better than a SWAG.

Jared





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Hello All,

It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have
taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in
our case both of them are directly proportional. ( Business objects may
vary
from shop to shop )

first step I have done is calculating the : Growth factor = avg. History
Db
growth / avg Hist Sales growth

Second Step : identifying the Sales projection for the next fiscal year (
Ie. I have to get sales growth percentage from the business team , for
example 15% and multiply with sales history, for each week I guess.)

3rd step: Now I have sales projection and growth Factor , and can the
projected DB growth .


Well The above is the thing I am working on by having some queries to get
the data from the DB. Also I have to automate the whole process .

I would like to know how this Capacity planning followed in your shop.
What's your answer when your group manager asks how much disk we need for
holiday prep ?? Like this we can have many questions. I know somebody is
having a better approach getting followed . Would appreciate if you share
with us.

or somebody can better help me in identifying  the Q? from managers


Thank YOU all for your replies
Madhu


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Check the link Kirti has posted (orapub).

Is capacity planning only on the database size ?
In my mind it also includes :
   Transaction description (online and batch)
   Transaction frequency (online and batch)
   Transaction window
   Networking requirements
   Number of users (all and concurrent)
   Overall disk space (inside and outside the
database)
   Availability





 --- Reddy, Madhusudana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Hello All,

 I am currently working on capacity planning of the
 database , expecting the
 database size based on the business object ,sales (
 Historical data). I am
 not sure about the approach I am following . I
 believe there might be some
 better approach followed in some shop to estimate
 the DB size , even by
 considering events like thanks giving , holiday
 season and all.

 Also I have to automate this process. Would like to
 know some best
 suggestions you always have  in this forum. Would
 you help me in identifying
 some formulae. Any kind of documentation will be a
 great help !!!

 Thanks in advance,

 Madhu





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RE: Informix backups

2002-12-18 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Informix backups





by all means Gene, test it... and watch out for that boogeyman named Rman.


Lisa Koivu
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The SysAdmin is backing up the filesystems/raw partitions where the informix db resides w/out putting the db in hot backup mode. He was told by a consultant, all you have to do is backup the informix logs and db files for full recovery. As an Oracle DBA and not familiar w/ informix, is this informix db backup recoverable?

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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Connor McDonald
Any non-totally-up-to-date tool will typically
struggle to get *all* of the ddl.  A good example
would be in 9i where the table compression flag has
unfortunately been left off the dba_tables view.  The
info is of course there (tucked away in seg$) but
you're setting yourself up for a lot of work if you
head down into those levels..

Similarly, if you wanted a constraint which was based
on an index with different columns.  Obviously you
need to create the index before the constraint. Pre-9
you have to go hacking around cdef$... ugh!  I'd stick
with exp rows=n

hth
connor

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 scheduling something to run regularly, exp rows=n is
 the easiest.
 
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 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:16 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what
 are different
 methods to get DDL other than
 Export rows=n
 Using Quest SQL navigator
 Using The Databee tool
 
 Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command
 but Im pretty sure
 that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available
 from DBA studio
 either...
 
 
 Im wondering what methods people are using?
 I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One
 index
 
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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
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RE:

2002-12-18 Thread Sherman, Edward



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RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
Ruth, have you seen this doc on metastink?  It might be helpful.

Note:116923.1

Dave

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Jared,
Can you send me the script you use.  I can't even figure out the syntax for
DBMS_SPACE from the docs.  I would be very grateful
Ruth
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:58 PM


I use DBMS_SPACE to calculate the actual size of all data objects
in our SAP databases.  The data is collected once a week.

Once a month I use the collected data to create an aggregate
table via Oracle's linear regression and partitioning SQL operators.

Run the projections for the current month, end of year, the 2 following
6 month periods, put the data in excel and chart it.

Earlier this year my projection for SAP running out of space was 6/28/02.

There were some delays in getting the new storage hardware installed.

Guess which day we ran out of space?  ;)

That was just dumb luck that it happened the same day, but now people
believe my projections. :)

I opted for the use of DBMS_SPACE, as that is the best way to find out
how much space is actually being used for data.   I didn't care about
allocated empty blocks, or how big the tablespaces were.

There's now about 14 months of data for this, and though growth is not
alwasy linear, it's still better than a SWAG.

Jared





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Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Please respond to ORACLE-L


To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:RE: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!


Hello All,

It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have
taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in
our case both of them are directly proportional. ( Business objects may
vary
from shop to shop )

first step I have done is calculating the : Growth factor = avg. History
Db
growth / avg Hist Sales growth

Second Step : identifying the Sales projection for the next fiscal year (
Ie. I have to get sales growth percentage from the business team , for
example 15% and multiply with sales history, for each week I guess.)

3rd step: Now I have sales projection and growth Factor , and can the
projected DB growth .


Well The above is the thing I am working on by having some queries to get
the data from the DB. Also I have to automate the whole process .

I would like to know how this Capacity planning followed in your shop.
What's your answer when your group manager asks how much disk we need for
holiday prep ?? Like this we can have many questions. I know somebody is
having a better approach getting followed . Would appreciate if you share
with us.

or somebody can better help me in identifying  the Q? from managers


Thank YOU all for your replies
Madhu


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 12:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Check the link Kirti has posted (orapub).

Is capacity planning only on the database size ?
In my mind it also includes :
   Transaction description (online and batch)
   Transaction frequency (online and batch)
   Transaction window
   Networking requirements
   Number of users (all and concurrent)
   Overall disk space (inside and outside the
database)
   Availability





 --- Reddy, Madhusudana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Hello All,

 I am currently working on capacity planning of the
 database , expecting the
 database size based on the business object ,sales (
 Historical data). I am
 not sure about the approach I am following . I
 believe there might be some
 better approach followed in some shop to estimate
 the DB size , even by
 considering events like thanks giving , holiday
 season and all.

 Also I have to automate this process. Would like to
 know some best
 suggestions you always have  in this forum. Would
 you help me in identifying
 some formulae. Any kind of documentation will be a
 great help !!!

 Thanks in advance,

 Madhu





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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Gints Plivna
Create Your own script or find one in internet that uses data dictionary.

Gints Plivna

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
methods to get DDL other than
Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Methods to get DDL





Bob, TOAD (freeware version) will do it for you also. However, as far as scheduling something to run regularly, exp rows=n is the easiest.

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I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
methods to get DDL other than
Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool


Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...



Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index


Thanks in advance
bob


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Kind of OT : Sungard Compass

2002-12-18 Thread Stephane Paquette
Hi,

Beginning january , I'll be on a team to implement
Sungard Compass product which run on Oracle 817.

Any comment on that product ?

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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: RE: Methods to get DDL





 From: Bob Metelsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 
 Im wondering what methods people are using?
 I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index
 



TOAD





Re: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
  I was thinking of simply copying the datafiles using the OS facilities.
If you are putting hot backups to tape directly I am not sure that they will
be usable for recovery.  RMAN requires a third party media manager to handle
backups to tape. If rman can't do it, I am not sure that homegrown scripts
can either.

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 Ruth,

 Does this mean hot backups don't work for UnixWare 7.1?  Otherwise, cp,
 cpio, ufsdump or any other method of copying the disk file from location a
 to location b should be ok, shouldn't it?

 John


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 Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back them
up
 the backups will be unusable.

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  Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to
Tape.
 
  Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
 
  Regards
  Dilmohan
 
  Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:
 
   Dear List,
  
   We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
   Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
  
   I did use tar command:
  
   tar c8v1 /home/oradata
  
   It's working properly but the problem is:
  
   tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
   The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
   more than 2GB.
  
   So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
  
   Could any body in the list give me the alternative
   command of tar that can handle backup of large files
   or any other solution...
  
   because I want to schedule this process.
  
   Your help will be appreciated.
  
   Regards,
   ashraf salaymeh
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RE: Stored procedure memory problem

2002-12-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Stored procedure memory problem





As long as you are committing transactions, you shouldn't worry. Beware of leaking Oracle processes though ... they might harm you.

On 9012 we have two packages that run ALL the time basically they de-queue from a multiple of AQs and perform post-processing on them. We bounce these processes once in about 3 weeks (stop, wait 1 second, restart) or when PGA crosses 126M. We have seen them causing havoc when PGA exceeds 128M, due to leaking smon on (oracle and os) version combination.

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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Methods to get DDL





The only problem with TOAD I have is I soon forgot where information is stored to write the script by hand. It is a nice tool, I have been using it since late 96, but that's a problem with all GUIs ...

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 I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index 
 



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Re: Win2K Mount Points

2002-12-18 Thread Jared . Still
Nigel,


 Finally, as this is my first post to the list, perhaps I should 
introduce 
 myself as a lurker(!):

Congratulations on your change in status!

RE the mount points:  I'm still fairly OS illiterate with many
features of NT/Win2k.  Do you have a good URL that 
would explain the use of mount points?

Sorry for not being much help on this topic, but thanks
for sharing your experiences.

Jared





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Hello,


I have been tasked to upgrade an existing Openserver 5 / 7.3.4 
installation to 
a Win2K / 8.1.7 installation. The hardware is an IBM 8500R 8-way with 4GB 
main 
memory and 32 mirrored pairs.

Under Unix it is simple to mount each filesystem at an appropriate mount 
point. 
However, the traditional method of using drive letters in Windows is 
somewhat 
limited by the number of available letters. The obvious solution with 
NTFS5 is 
to use mount points - which is what I have done. I have a directory 
located in 
$ORACLE_BASE under which I have mounted 25 of the mirrored pairs, i.e. all 
of 
the filesystems that will be used exclusively by Oracle

Currently, the Openserver installation is still live and I am configuring 
the 
Win2K installation on identical h/w for a period of testing. Whilst I have 
had 
not had any issues with using NTFS5 mount points, I have been scratting 
around 
trying to find real-world experience of such a configuration. The official 

Oracle line (via an iTAR that I filed) is that as the base OS is fully 
supported, i.e. supported without certain features being excluded, the use 
of 
mount points is okay. However, should I observe any issues with such a 
configuration then any queries should be directed to Microsoft.

The response is fair enough, I guess, but it didn't provide what I was 
asking 
for. Therefore, I would like to ask the wider audience if they have any 
experience of such a configuration, i.e. any known issues with NTFS5 mount 

points in general, the number that is safe to use beneath a base 
directory, 
recovery issues etc.

I should point out that the application data that is stored in the 
database is 
roughly 80% static and 20% hot and in the ideal world the static data 
could 
be stored on a smaller number of larger arrays to allow the h/w to do most 
of 
the load balancing. However, I have no say in h/w matters so this isn't 
really 
an option for me.

Finally, as this is my first post to the list, perhaps I should introduce 
myself as a lurker(!): I have enjoyed following the various discussion 
threads 
on a daily basis. The collaboration of people helping each other with 
common 
issues and the willingness to share expertise etc makes ORACLE-L a 
powerful 
resource.

Many thanks.


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RE: password

2002-12-18 Thread Jared . Still
Downloaded and installed the tool.

Not terribly sophistcated.

If the word is not in the dictionary, it won't find it.

For instance, a password of 'SHOE' will be discovered,
but changing the O to a zero so that it reads 'SH0E', and
the password cracker will not find it.

If this were to be used as a serious security tool, you would
be better off studying some of the well known password crackers
and duplicating the algorithms in PL/SQL.

Jared






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And that is what it *should* be used for :)

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Yes, it's a dictionary based cracker.

Could be useful for checking for weak passwords.

For $4, I'm going to see what it does.  :)

Jared





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Jared,

This seems to be a 'brute force' dictionary based attack, as I believe the
Oracle password is a one-way trapdoor (just as UNIX). I don't think this
will be able to crack a strong password created from say a combination of
the first characters of an arbitrary sentence.

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 Hmm...
 
 Well maybe you *can* crack oracle passwords.
 
 I've just ordered the full version of this product.  ( $4, I don't
 think I need to bother the purchasing department ).
 
 I'll let you know how it works.
 
 Jared
 
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Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Jared . Still
I can forward a script that shows how to use DBMS_SPACE.

The other stuff I mentioned is not exactly in packagable form.

Just use:
  exec show_space('SCOTT','EMP')

Jared



create or replace procedure show_space (
p_segname in varchar2
, p_owner in varchar2 default user
, p_type in varchar2 default 'TABLE'
, p_partition in varchar2 default null
)
as
l_free_blocks   number;
l_total_blocks  number;
l_total_bytes   number;
l_unused_bytes  number;
l_unused_blocks number;
l_LastusedExtFileId number;
l_LastUsedExtBlockIdnumber;
l_last_used_block   number;

l_segname   varchar2(30);
l_owner varchar2(30);
l_type  varchar2(20);
l_partition varchar2(30);

procedure p( p_label in varchar2, p_num in number )
is
begin
dbms_output.put_line(rpad(p_label,40,'.')||p_num);
end;

begin

l_segname := upper(p_segname);
l_owner := upper(p_owner);
l_type := upper(p_type);
l_partition := upper(p_partition);

dbms_space.free_blocks (
segment_owner   = l_owner
, segment_name  = l_segname
, segment_type  = l_type
, partition_name= l_partition
, freelist_group_id = 0
, free_blks = l_free_blocks
);

dbms_space.unused_space (
segment_owner   = l_owner
, segment_name  = l_segname
, segment_type  = l_type
, partition_name= l_partition
, total_blocks  = l_total_blocks
, total_bytes   = l_total_bytes
, unused_blocks = l_unused_blocks
, unused_bytes  = l_unused_bytes
, last_used_block   = l_last_used_block
, last_used_extent_file_id  = l_LastusedExtFileId
, last_used_extent_block_id = l_LastUsedExtBlockId
);

p( 'Free Blocks', l_free_blocks);
p( 'Total Blocks', l_total_blocks);
p( 'Total Bytes', l_total_bytes);
p( 'Unused Blocks', l_unused_blocks);
p( 'Unused Bytes', l_unused_bytes);
p( 'Last Used Ext FileId', l_LastusedExtFileId);
p( 'Last Used Ext BlockId', l_LastUsedExtBlockId);
p( 'Last Used Block', l_last_used_block);
end;
/

show error procedure show_space







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Can you send me the script you use.  I can't even figure out the syntax 
for
DBMS_SPACE from the docs.  I would be very grateful
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I use DBMS_SPACE to calculate the actual size of all data objects
in our SAP databases.  The data is collected once a week.

Once a month I use the collected data to create an aggregate
table via Oracle's linear regression and partitioning SQL operators.

Run the projections for the current month, end of year, the 2 following
6 month periods, put the data in excel and chart it.

Earlier this year my projection for SAP running out of space was 6/28/02.

There were some delays in getting the new storage hardware installed.

Guess which day we ran out of space?  ;)

That was just dumb luck that it happened the same day, but now people
believe my projections. :)

I opted for the use of DBMS_SPACE, as that is the best way to find out
how much space is actually being used for data.   I didn't care about
allocated empty blocks, or how big the tablespaces were.

There's now about 14 months of data for this, and though growth is not
alwasy linear, it's still better than a SWAG.

Jared





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Hello All,

It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly concentrate on the DB growth . I have
taken Sales as business object to correlate with the DB size . I think in
our case both of them are directly 

Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Jared . Still
Small amounts: sqlplus and the data dictionary.

Lot's o' DDL:  Perl, DBI,  DBD::Oracle and DDL::Oracle.

If that's unavailable, I use exp, then grep, sed and maybe vi to
extract and cleanup the exp DDL.

If unix bin utilities are unavailable, I install cygwin on a Windoze
machine to make them available.

If not allowed to do that, well, just go home.

Jared





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I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
methods to get DDL other than
Export rows=n
Using Quest SQL navigator
Using The Databee tool

Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
either...


Im wondering what methods people are using?
I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index

Thanks in advance
bob

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Re: Oracle shadow processes run amok after system clock changed

2002-12-18 Thread Deborah Lorraine
No, this was the middle of the afternoon.  Each of those runaway processes 
were at one time associated with various users in the database doing 
various tasks, mostly selects.  No user complained, so I assume they got 
detached from their shadow and maybe thought they were logged out?  I was 
surprised that the majority still had inactive database connections.

At 04:08 PM 12/17/2002 -0800, Stephane Faroult wrote:
Out of the top of my mind, and in the middle of the night : Oracle jobs?
RECO trying to fix things?
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Deborah Lorraine wrote:

 For those of you DBA's with a UNIX/SYSADMIN background, what do you think
 of this problem:

 For a yet-to-be-explained reason, the system clock on our sun database
 server suddenly changed back 1 hour and 16 minutes sometime around 4 p.m.
 yesterday afternoon. The initial symptoms were that users could not log in
 to the database (we use kerberos for authenticating most user accounts
 which requires an accurate time), and we had an unusually high load average
 of 77! Once we finally figured out the clock was off and the sysadmin
 reset it, the load average did not change even though users could log in
 again. We then noticed 72 (of ~500) oracle processes in the run state, all
 evenly collecting CPU time, although database performance was good.

 Some of these 72 processes were orphans and had no database process. Most
 had been doing simple selects, but not a single one was actually active in
 the database. Not all were kerberos-autenticated sessions. The only thing
 these processes had in common is that their process time stamps were in the
 hour period of that questionable time:

 oracle 11971 1 2 16:02:28 ? 18:05 oracleprod (LOCAL=NO)
 oracle 13335 1 2 16:19:40 ? 18:19 oracleprod (LOCAL=NO)
 oracle 9911 1 1 15:47:23 ? 18:18 oracleprod (LOCAL=NO)
 ...

 After the clock was reset to the correct time, these processes did not
 clear out but when killed, the load returned to normal.

 For the most part, Oracle is oblivious to the system clock setting so what
 could have caused the shadow processes to run amok? What could they be
 doing to generate CPU yet doing nothing in the database? Any ideas?

 Thanks,

 Debi

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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Igor Neyman
wow, that was unusual...

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I thought, it was:

ARE YOU AN IDIOT? :-)

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 Ok, I'll ask the obligatory 'Are you stupid?'

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RE: iAS 1.0.2.2.2a vs 9iR2 db

2002-12-18 Thread Paul Heely
You need to set O7_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY=TRUE in the database.

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I know this is probably hopeless, but has anyone managed to let the
Oracle Portal Configuration Assistant bundled with iAS 1.0.2.2.2a for
win32 connect to a 9i database?

It wants to connect as SYS, and of course 9i only wants sys to connect
as sysdba.

This if for my home sandbox PC, I don't have enough RAM on it to install
ias 9iR2, so I am trying to jam iAS 1.0.2.2.2a in there.

If connections to 9i are not possible I suppose I will have to use
8.1.7.4.6. for that machine.

Patrice Boivin
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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-18 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Simon,

thanks for the plug, although it helps if you tell them the name of the
book :)

caveat: the scripts were written for 7.3.4, and should work mostly on
8i but have NOT been updated for 9i so if you are using any of the 8i
or 9i new features they may not work.

Rachel


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 There are scripts out there that will do the job, though most of them
 start
 to fall down if the indexes are at all unusual.
 
 I bought a book a couple of years ago with a whole selection of
 scripts to
 create ddl for database objects - It should still be available on
 Amazon.
 
 Cheers
 Simon Anderson
 
 
 
 
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 I finally have a bit of time and was wondering what are different
 methods to get DDL other than
 Export rows=n
 Using Quest SQL navigator
 Using The Databee tool
 
 Ideally Id like to get it from a sql plus command but Im pretty sure
 that's not available. DDL dosnt seem to be available from DBA studio
 either...
 
 
 Im wondering what methods people are using?
 I'd like a quick way to get the ddl for say... One index
 
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RE: Oracle bug 2316137

2002-12-18 Thread Glenn Stauffer
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 11:49, Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
 If you have cursor_sharing=force ... can you use cursor_sharing=exact
 and see if the error reproduces? I think (and I could be wrong) that
 this setting will at-least buy you some time.
 

I'll have to try that idea.

 Search for 'kksscl-inf-inl-loop' including bug database, you'll find
 many references. Basically it means the process has gone into an
 infinite loop scanning shared cursors. 
 

I can't access the bug database for some reason; I should contact them
about that.  Something that hasn't come up before.

Glenn

 Have you talked to OWS ... time to call them.
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 We've just started experiencing a problem where a client-server Forms
 4.5 application hangs and then produces this error:
 
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [kksscl-inf-inl-loop],
 [1500], [0], [1], [41], [41], [], []
 
 Our database is version 9.2 and we found reference to a bug on
 metalink,
 2316137, though we can't see the details.  We are planning an
 off-hours
 upgrade to 9.2.0.2 which is said to fix this problem; in the meantime,
 we can clear up the condition causing this error by bouncing the
 instance.  Then things work for a while until the error starts to
 occur
 again (last time it cleared up for about a week).  
 
 Since it is several weeks before I can get the downtime to apply the
 upgrade, I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with this problem
 and whether there is a temporary fix short of updating the Oracle
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Re: Capacity Planning -- Expecting the DB growth !!!

2002-12-18 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Thanks a million!  Ruth
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I can forward a script that shows how to use DBMS_SPACE.

The other stuff I mentioned is not exactly in packagable form.

Just use:
  exec show_space('SCOTT','EMP')

Jared



create or replace procedure show_space (
p_segname in varchar2
, p_owner in varchar2 default user
, p_type in varchar2 default 'TABLE'
, p_partition in varchar2 default null
)
as
l_free_blocks   number;
l_total_blocks  number;
l_total_bytes   number;
l_unused_bytes  number;
l_unused_blocks number;
l_LastusedExtFileId number;
l_LastUsedExtBlockIdnumber;
l_last_used_block   number;

l_segname   varchar2(30);
l_owner varchar2(30);
l_type  varchar2(20);
l_partition varchar2(30);

procedure p( p_label in varchar2, p_num in number )
is
begin
dbms_output.put_line(rpad(p_label,40,'.')||p_num);
end;

begin

l_segname := upper(p_segname);
l_owner := upper(p_owner);
l_type := upper(p_type);
l_partition := upper(p_partition);

dbms_space.free_blocks (
segment_owner   = l_owner
, segment_name  = l_segname
, segment_type  = l_type
, partition_name= l_partition
, freelist_group_id = 0
, free_blks = l_free_blocks
);

dbms_space.unused_space (
segment_owner   = l_owner
, segment_name  = l_segname
, segment_type  = l_type
, partition_name= l_partition
, total_blocks  = l_total_blocks
, total_bytes   = l_total_bytes
, unused_blocks = l_unused_blocks
, unused_bytes  = l_unused_bytes
, last_used_block   = l_last_used_block
, last_used_extent_file_id  = l_LastusedExtFileId
, last_used_extent_block_id = l_LastUsedExtBlockId
);

p( 'Free Blocks', l_free_blocks);
p( 'Total Blocks', l_total_blocks);
p( 'Total Bytes', l_total_bytes);
p( 'Unused Blocks', l_unused_blocks);
p( 'Unused Bytes', l_unused_bytes);
p( 'Last Used Ext FileId', l_LastusedExtFileId);
p( 'Last Used Ext BlockId', l_LastUsedExtBlockId);
p( 'Last Used Block', l_last_used_block);
end;
/

show error procedure show_space







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Jared,
Can you send me the script you use.  I can't even figure out the syntax
for
DBMS_SPACE from the docs.  I would be very grateful
Ruth
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I use DBMS_SPACE to calculate the actual size of all data objects
in our SAP databases.  The data is collected once a week.

Once a month I use the collected data to create an aggregate
table via Oracle's linear regression and partitioning SQL operators.

Run the projections for the current month, end of year, the 2 following
6 month periods, put the data in excel and chart it.

Earlier this year my projection for SAP running out of space was 6/28/02.

There were some delays in getting the new storage hardware installed.

Guess which day we ran out of space?  ;)

That was just dumb luck that it happened the same day, but now people
believe my projections. :)

I opted for the use of DBMS_SPACE, as that is the best way to find out
how much space is actually being used for data.   I didn't care about
allocated empty blocks, or how big the tablespaces were.

There's now about 14 months of data for this, and though growth is not
alwasy linear, it's still better than a SWAG.

Jared





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Hello All,

It should include all as you said , but since I do not belong to a
capacity
planning group in my shop , I mostly 

RE: Win2K Mount Points

2002-12-18 Thread Paul E. Robichaux
Yay! Finally! A question I can actually answer.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;205524; describes the
tools you can use to manipulate mount points in W2K, while
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/323/4/24.asp is the
equivalent for Windows .NET Server. 

Cheers,
-Paul

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 Nigel,
 
 
  Finally, as this is my first post to the list, perhaps I should
 introduce 
  myself as a lurker(!):
 
 Congratulations on your change in status!
 
 RE the mount points:  I'm still fairly OS illiterate with 
 many features of NT/Win2k.  Do you have a good URL that 
 would explain the use of mount points?
 
 Sorry for not being much help on this topic, but thanks
 for sharing your experiences.
 
 Jared
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject:Win2K Mount Points
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 
 I have been tasked to upgrade an existing Openserver 5 / 7.3.4 
 installation to 
 a Win2K / 8.1.7 installation. The hardware is an IBM 8500R 
 8-way with 4GB 
 main 
 memory and 32 mirrored pairs.
 
 Under Unix it is simple to mount each filesystem at an 
 appropriate mount 
 point. 
 However, the traditional method of using drive letters in Windows is 
 somewhat 
 limited by the number of available letters. The obvious solution with 
 NTFS5 is 
 to use mount points - which is what I have done. I have a directory 
 located in 
 $ORACLE_BASE under which I have mounted 25 of the mirrored 
 pairs, i.e. all 
 of 
 the filesystems that will be used exclusively by Oracle
 
 Currently, the Openserver installation is still live and I am 
 configuring 
 the 
 Win2K installation on identical h/w for a period of testing. 
 Whilst I have 
 had 
 not had any issues with using NTFS5 mount points, I have been 
 scratting 
 around 
 trying to find real-world experience of such a configuration. 
 The official 
 
 Oracle line (via an iTAR that I filed) is that as the base OS 
 is fully 
 supported, i.e. supported without certain features being 
 excluded, the use 
 of 
 mount points is okay. However, should I observe any issues 
 with such a 
 configuration then any queries should be directed to Microsoft.
 
 The response is fair enough, I guess, but it didn't provide 
 what I was 
 asking 
 for. Therefore, I would like to ask the wider audience if 
 they have any 
 experience of such a configuration, i.e. any known issues 
 with NTFS5 mount 
 
 points in general, the number that is safe to use beneath a base 
 directory, 
 recovery issues etc.
 
 I should point out that the application data that is stored in the 
 database is 
 roughly 80% static and 20% hot and in the ideal world the 
 static data 
 could 
 be stored on a smaller number of larger arrays to allow the 
 h/w to do most 
 of 
 the load balancing. However, I have no say in h/w matters so 
 this isn't 
 really 
 an option for me.
 
 Finally, as this is my first post to the list, perhaps I 
 should introduce 
 myself as a lurker(!): I have enjoyed following the various 
 discussion 
 threads 
 on a daily basis. The collaboration of people helping each other with 
 common 
 issues and the willingness to share expertise etc makes ORACLE-L a 
 powerful 
 resource.
 
 Many thanks.
 
 
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 nigel.
 
 
 
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Re: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Yechiel Adar
I do not get it.
If you put the tablespace in backup mode and then use the os utilities to
copy the datafiles to tape why you can not use then for recover. Just
restore the datafiles and the archive logs and do recover?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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   I was thinking of simply copying the datafiles using the OS facilities.
 If you are putting hot backups to tape directly I am not sure that they
will
 be usable for recovery.  RMAN requires a third party media manager to
handle
 backups to tape. If rman can't do it, I am not sure that homegrown scripts
 can either.

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  Ruth,
 
  Does this mean hot backups don't work for UnixWare 7.1?  Otherwise, cp,
  cpio, ufsdump or any other method of copying the disk file from location
a
  to location b should be ok, shouldn't it?
 
  John
 
 
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  Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back
them
 up
  the backups will be unusable.
 
  Ruth
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   Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to
 Tape.
  
   Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
  
   Regards
   Dilmohan
  
   Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:
  
Dear List,
   
We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
   
I did use tar command:
   
tar c8v1 /home/oradata
   
It's working properly but the problem is:
   
tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
more than 2GB.
   
So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
   
Could any body in the list give me the alternative
command of tar that can handle backup of large files
or any other solution...
   
because I want to schedule this process.
   
Your help will be appreciated.
   
Regards,
ashraf salaymeh
System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
   
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RE:

2002-12-18 Thread Jesse, Rich
Damn.  Can't get the Russian-to-English translator working with any browser
on Babelfish...

Rich


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 wow, that was unusual...
 
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Regular Expressions in SQL

2002-12-18 Thread cbeckley
What's the easiest way to do regular expressions in an SQL query?

If the answer is creating a function, does anyone have one they wouldn't mind
sharing?

Thanks,
Chris

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Easy one: how to start EM OID?

2002-12-18 Thread Paul E. Robichaux
I want to have the services necessary for Enterprise Manager and Oracle
Internet Directory to start when I boot my machine. I understand where to put
the scripts that start the processes; I just don't know which processes to
start, apart from dbsnmp (which doesn't seem sufficient by itself). Any
pointers to where I can find this kind of stuff would be most welcome.

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Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Igor Neyman
Rich, do you need a translation?

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Re: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Gene Sais
I am using home grown scripts and they work.  I have Legato use savepnpc (pre/post 
proc) command call this script:

//begin snippet comment section

#!/bin/ksh
###
# $ORABIN/db_hot_backup.ksh
###
#
# Common script used to alter one database or all databases
# on this server for hot backup mode (begin/end).
# This script does NOT actually copy database files to disk
# or to tape.
#
# Hot Backup Algorithm listed below:
#   1) Alter system archive log current ;
#   2) Check backup status.
#   3) Generate datafile listing.
#   4) Alter tablespace tablespace_name begin backup ;
#   5) Some other process,script,legato,etc. will copy database files
#  to disk or to tape.
#   6) Alter tablespace tablespace_name end backup ;
#   7) Alter system archive log current ;
#   8) Backup controlfile.
#   9) Alter system archive log current ;
#
# Date  Author  Note
#   --  
# 04/26/02  Gene Sais   Original Creation
# 08/02/02  Gene Sais   Copied trace file to Hot Backup Location
###
# Parameter Description
# - ---
sid=$1  # Database sid or all
begend=$2   # Begin or End Hot Backup

//end snippet comment section

hth,
Gene

PS. I have tested recoveries and they worked, but soon my scripts will succumb to RMAN 
:).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 12:04PM 
  I was thinking of simply copying the datafiles using the OS facilities.
If you are putting hot backups to tape directly I am not sure that they will
be usable for recovery.  RMAN requires a third party media manager to handle
backups to tape. If rman can't do it, I am not sure that homegrown scripts
can either.

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 Ruth,

 Does this mean hot backups don't work for UnixWare 7.1?  Otherwise, cp,
 cpio, ufsdump or any other method of copying the disk file from location a
 to location b should be ok, shouldn't it?

 John


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 Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back them
up
 the backups will be unusable.

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  Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to
Tape.
 
  Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
 
  Regards
  Dilmohan
 
  Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:
 
   Dear List,
  
   We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
   Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
  
   I did use tar command:
  
   tar c8v1 /home/oradata
  
   It's working properly but the problem is:
  
   tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
   The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
   more than 2GB.
  
   So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
  
   Could any body in the list give me the alternative
   command of tar that can handle backup of large files
   or any other solution...
  
   because I want to schedule this process.
  
   Your help will be appreciated.
  
   Regards,
   ashraf salaymeh
   System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
  
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SQL tuning question.

2002-12-18 Thread Jibo John
Hello DBAs,

I am currently involved in improving the search performance for a tool 
which queries a table having a million records (and the table is growing at 
a rate of 3000 records per day).

Thought of introducing Intermedia search for 4 columns in the search table.

Created CONTEXT indexes to three varchar (4000) columns as well as a 
varchar(500) column and used the CONTAINS keyword.

This has really improved the performance speed (5 times improvement) than 
the previous LIKE clause query if the number of records returned are less 
than 2000.
How ever, for  those search criteria which returns more than 10,000 
records, the query with CONTAINS clause is slower than the query with LIKE 
clause :(
I thought it can never go worse :)

Here are the two queries:
1. using index
---
SELECT id FROM search_table WHERE contains (product, '{product_name}')  0 
and (contains (VERSION1, '{ 11.0(1) }')  0 OR contains (VERSION2, '{ 
11.0(1) }')  0 OR contains (VERSION3, '{ 11.0(1) }')  0)

2. Without using index

SELECT /*+ PARALLEL(SEARCH_TABLE, 10) */  id FROM search_table WHERE 
PRODUCT like '%product_name%' and (VERSION1 like '% 11.0(1) %' OR VERSION2 
like '% 11.0(1) %' OR VERSION3 like '% 11.0(1) %')

Few facts
-
* VERSION is only one of the search criteria, for which I am currently 
trying to improve the performance. By including the above 4 indexes, there 
is going to be a total of  7 context indexes for this table!
* The query looks for the same version string in the 3 columns 
version1,  version2 and version3, which are populated from 3 different sources.
( We didn't want to mix them up and put into a single CLOB field). Each 
version filed has multiple version strings separated by a space.
* The clause on the 'product' column is default for all the search 
criteria, which has multiple product names separated by a space. So, I 
thought of introducing Intermedia search for that column as well.

I am a new-comer in the field of sql tuning and I presume I am really 
missing some thing here.
Is there any restriction that I cannot use Intermedia search for too many 
columns in a table?
Is the order in which the query formed makes any difference?

Oracle version is Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.0.

Any help regarding this is highly appreciated.

Thank you,
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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-18 Thread Burke, William F (Bill)
The key is putting the tablespace in backup mode.  It then doesn't matter
whether you write the file to disk or tape.  Homegrown scripts will work
just fine in writing directly to tape, although it should be quite a bit
slower than writing to disk and then letting the system backup process
simply sweep the directory to tape (preferred method).

Regards,

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I do not get it.
If you put the tablespace in backup mode and then use the os utilities to
copy the datafiles to tape why you can not use then for recover. Just
restore the datafiles and the archive logs and do recover?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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   I was thinking of simply copying the datafiles using the OS facilities.
 If you are putting hot backups to tape directly I am not sure that they
will
 be usable for recovery.  RMAN requires a third party media manager to
handle
 backups to tape. If rman can't do it, I am not sure that homegrown scripts
 can either.

 Ruth
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  Ruth,
 
  Does this mean hot backups don't work for UnixWare 7.1?  Otherwise, cp,
  cpio, ufsdump or any other method of copying the disk file from location
a
  to location b should be ok, shouldn't it?
 
  John
 
 
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  Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back
them
 up
  the backups will be unusable.
 
  Ruth
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   Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to
 Tape.
  
   Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
  
   Regards
   Dilmohan
  
   Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:
  
Dear List,
   
We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
   
I did use tar command:
   
tar c8v1 /home/oradata
   
It's working properly but the problem is:
   
tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
more than 2GB.
   
So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
   
Could any body in the list give me the alternative
command of tar that can handle backup of large files
or any other solution...
   
because I want to schedule this process.
   
Your help will be appreciated.
   
Regards,
ashraf salaymeh
System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
   
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RE: career questions

2002-12-18 Thread Burke, William F (Bill)
Having been independent for over 20 years, and now a permanent employee (if
anything is permanent) for the past three years, one idea might be to
broker your services through placement or consulting firms where you have
a better idea of the companies background and what you are getting in to.
For the most part, I have never tried to go direct to the company/employer
but rather have let placement/consulting firms do the leg work for me which
allowed me to pick and choose which projects were best suited to my skills
and objectives.

Consulting always bring with it the problem of delivering exactly what they
asked for, but not what they wanted...  or in a worse case compromising your
professional integrity by having to deliver lower quality which will
ultimately come back to haunt you.

I loved every minute of independent, but mainly because I was brokering my
services and had the luxury of picking and choosing which project I wanted
to work on.  Times are a lot tougher right now for independents so choose
carefully.  Brokering is safer and someone else is doing the leg work.  If
you build a good relationship with a couple of placement/consulting firms
you should be able to stay busy once the market picks up.

My .02

Regards,

Bill Burke
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I have gone the consulting route three times in my
career.  Here are some observations in no particular
order of importance.

Solo is a tough way to go.  You have to find the
business and do the work.  Either, done right is a
full time job.

In spite of the fact that as professionals we place a
lot of weight on technical expertise, the people that
hire you frequently do not know how to evaluate your
skills.  Being able to fit into their comfort zone is
frequently more important than abilities.

If you can consistently make your deadlines you are
going to build a solid reputation.  People who hire
you like on time, on budget performance.

Do not be too intimidated by a specific set of
required skills.  My first Oracle gig resulted from a
conflict between a director and an IT manager.  The
Director knew exactly what she wanted and the IT
manager was sending her project to the back of the
bus.  After the project was successfully implemented,
18 months later, I asked her why she had hired me over
all of the people with Oracle experience.  Her answer
was simple, You listened to me.  She knew what she
wanted and she felt I could deliver it for her.  That
lucky assignment opened a whole new career for me.  

Integrity matters.  Your word does need to be your
bond as a consultant.

If you work for a consulting firm, make sure that they
can deliver the kind of assignments that are good for
your career.  I worked at one for about six months in
a variety of different assignments.  Some Oracle, some
not.  When I complained about the lack of consistent
Oracle work, one of my coworkers laid it all out for
me, This is a good place to work if you are a money
whore.  I wanted my life defined by more than money
so I left.  

My two cents worth and you get what you pay for.  


--- Maria Aurora VT de la Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Gurus,
 
 I have been an Oracle DBA for almost 5 years and
 would like very
 much to venture into independent Oracle consulting
 (part-time). As i
 have spent most of these 5 years as a sole DBA for
 different companies,
 studying and learning the ropes of Oracle
 Administration through books,
 magazines, test machines and this list, I feel
 confident enough to
 handle most Oracle issues. At the same time, I still
 have that feeling
 of inadequacy. I am not sure if I am good enough to
 offer my services to
 local companies.
 That said, I'd like to ask every one who are
 into consulting (on
 their own or as a part-time gig) what are the
 technical and soft skills
 necessary before I even think about consulting. How
 would you know that
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RE: Regular Expressions in SQL

2002-12-18 Thread Mirsky, Greg
Try:

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:1745425::NO::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID,
F4950_P8_CRITERIA:2200894550208,%7Bregular%7D%20and%20%7Bexpressions%7D

Ask Tom has whole write up on it.

Greg

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What's the easiest way to do regular expressions in an SQL query?

If the answer is creating a function, does anyone have one they wouldn't
mind
sharing?

Thanks,
Chris

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RE: Regular Expressions in SQL

2002-12-18 Thread Burke, William F (Bill)
What do you mean by regular expressions is SQL...  inquiring minds want to
know

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What's the easiest way to do regular expressions in an SQL query?

If the answer is creating a function, does anyone have one they wouldn't
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Thanks,
Chris

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