RE: RE: wait/notify syntax for unix help please

2003-10-28 Thread Dunscombe, Chris
There's no problem with waiting after the process has already finished,
you'll just get a non-zero return code the wait but evrything will still
work fine.

Chris

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if you attemp to wait after the process is complete, will it cause a
problem? say the PID no longer exists when you issue wait? 
 
 From: Dunscombe, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/10/27 Mon AM 11:39:34 EST
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 Subject: RE: wait/notify syntax for unix help please
 
 I don't know about Solaris but on HP-UX and AIX you can do:
 
 run_sql_1 
 run_sql_2 
 wait
 
 This will wait until both have finished.
 
 Re a specific PID $! will return you PID of the last child process and
then
 you can wait on that PID. Looks something like:
 
 run_sql_1 
 run_sql_2 
 PID_WAIT=$!
 wait ${PID_WAIT}
 
 HTH
 
 Chris Dunscombe
 
 
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 Sent: 27 October 2003 16:09
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 I need to parallelize some sql operations and Im running them from unix
 scripts. 
 
 I want to spawn off a few in the background from a master script, then
have
 the master script 'wait' for them to finish. Ive done this in Java and
with
 dbms_alert, but I cant dig up the syntax to do this with korn shell on
 solaris. 
 
 Also, if I want to wait for a specific PID, how do I get the PID of the
 thread I want to wait for?
 
 so I have
 
 nohup run_sql 
 
 wait(on previous nohup)
 
 then to use notify, I just use 'notify()' inside the script right? 
 
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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Leith
How salty is the water?


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Bellow, Bambi
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Bill --

I appreciate your input to this very complex question.  IMHO, however, she
turned me into a newt! is, technically, an interview *statement* rather
than an interview *question*.  That being said, it can be used at the
beginning or end of the interview to set tone, but lesser candidates might
be inclined to send envelopes full of grass to thank you for taking the time
to interview them.  This may, or may not, be received favorably, and one
must realize the risks in making bold statements when interviewing
candidates who may be subpar.

Along those lines, I admit that in all my years of interviewing, I have
found that there are interview questions that it is simply better not to
ask: when do you come around next? (leads interviewee to think that he has
advanced to a second interview), and how do you know he's a king? (leads
to answers about SCOTT and MILLER with CONNECT BYs.  Not at all the intended
response).

However, I think you're on the right track, if a bit early in the scene.
Perhaps you'd consider What also floats in water?.  Of course, there are
multiple answers (e.g., apples, very small stones, mud, churches) which
could arguably be deemed to show an acceptable level of knowledge, an
ability to think outside the box, and an inventive approach, even if the
salient points might not be wholly accurate.  Even so, the correct answer (a
duck) is technically not correct as it does not float, but swims (new
scientific has determined this with a fair amount of accuracy), and I'd hate
to hire a DBA who was stuck in old paradigms of science and/or technology.
A CICS programmer, sure, but not a DBA.

Now, if you'll just bring me a shrubbery, I can get on with my database
analysis.

Bambi.

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Cary Millsap  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

 Bambi,

 Be careful. Many will fall in love with you if you continue to submit
 such things as this to the list.

how about:

she turned me into a newt!
a newt?
i got better.

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Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-28 Thread Yechiel Adar
Well, they did not come straight out and say we invented the grid.
They did say we can help you to use and manage grid computers and our
software can use the grid.
They will have software to add/remove computers from a grid, clone
computers, propagate changes etc.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 I would imagine that the perspectice of grid computing
 offered at OOW would be somewhat Oracle centric.

 Grid computing does not require Oracle - it is, here
 comes an overused buzzword, a paradigm shift.

 There, I've said it. I think this is the first time
 I've ever used that term, and it may have even been
 properly used.

 That said, grid computing is the latest hype cycle, and
 time will tell if there's anything to it.

 Jared


 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 00:59, Yechiel Adar wrote:
  Hello Tom
 
  From my limited understanding in OOW in Paris, the Grid is a BIG RAC,
with
  options to add or remove servers as you go along.
  It can be used for web servers, applications servers, database servers
etc.
  There is a lot more in 10g that can help you manage also separated
  databases.
 
  Yechiel Adar
  Mehish
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   If this is true, then what is the difference between RAC (formerly
Oracle
   Parallel Server) and Grid computing?  Is this just another fine
example of
   Oracle taking an existing product and renaming it yet again?  they
*like*
   doing this.
  
   Tom Mercadante
   Oracle Certified Professional
  
  
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   Actually Dennis is quite correct.  Part of the architectural framework
is
   that you treat disk like a service.  All disk storage is sharable
across
  the
   enterprise grid you configure.  If you have multiple grids in place,
you
   would have multiple disk architecture frameworks in place.
Alternately,
  you
   could share the disk architectures to create a common, scalable grid.
  
   Unfortunately, Oracle has been very lax in discussing the financial
   requirements for the grid.  Forget Oracle pricing folks --  think
more
   about the cost to reconfigure your entire data center.
  
   Thank You
  
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   But that would require Oracle software to be installed on all the
grids,
   don't you think?  I'm really curious how they are going to pull this
off.
  
   Tom Mercadante
   Oracle Certified Professional
  
  
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   I think the assumption must be that all the computers on the grid are
   attached to a SAN. Does that seem reasonable?
  
   Dennis Williams
   DBA
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   For database type stuff, one must wonder how the data itself can be
  handled
   by CPU resources scattered hither and yon.  The answer comes from the
  fairly
   recent knowledge that, in our universe, every particle has a matching
   particle; and changing one of the particles results in a change in the
  other
   particle.  Well, the solution to trying to shove data all over the
grid
   becomes obvious: One need only establish central management of the
  matching
   particles that make up the CPU and memory of all the computers
involved.
   Initially, this would seem to be a daunting task ... until we recall
that
   Larry is God.
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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Sinardy Xing
I ask things like tell me the thing you've done that you are most
proud of and tell me your nightmare situation and how did you recover
from it

Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of me, I call cab infront of 
her.

 
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Re: 8th Deadly Sin - Unkept Promises

2003-10-28 Thread Yechiel Adar
The fact that they baited you with 10g to make you listen to sales pitch
does not say anything about 10g.
I was in OOW in Paris last week and 10g seems to have a lot of goodies in
it.
As we are now moving to 9.2 I do not think that we will use 10g but will
jump, in 3-4 years, to 11g.
Anyway I am going to move to OEM 10g, if they deliver on promises made
during presentations.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 I went to Oracle technology day in Milwaukee the other day and was a bit
put
 off by the marketing hype on 10g and the lack of 10g facts. The
technology
 day was promoted as a grid day...10g this and grid that. What did we
get?
 Marketing hype about collaboration suite. They used 10g to get people to
 come and listen to pitches for 9iRAC and collaboration suite.

 The demo on 9iRAC was on RAW partitions and was not useing OCFS.

 If 10g is a dissapointment when it finally ships I think I might start
 looking to learn another Db platform.




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RE: 8th Deadly Sin - Unkept Promises

2003-10-28 Thread Mark Leith
As a tool provider, I'm interested - what promises did they make for OEM
10g?

Cheers

Mark


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Yechiel Adar
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


The fact that they baited you with 10g to make you listen to sales pitch
does not say anything about 10g.
I was in OOW in Paris last week and 10g seems to have a lot of goodies in
it.
As we are now moving to 9.2 I do not think that we will use 10g but will
jump, in 3-4 years, to 11g.
Anyway I am going to move to OEM 10g, if they deliver on promises made
during presentations.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:19 PM



 I went to Oracle technology day in Milwaukee the other day and was a bit
put
 off by the marketing hype on 10g and the lack of 10g facts. The
technology
 day was promoted as a grid day...10g this and grid that. What did we
get?
 Marketing hype about collaboration suite. They used 10g to get people to
 come and listen to pitches for 9iRAC and collaboration suite.

 The demo on 9iRAC was on RAW partitions and was not useing OCFS.

 If 10g is a dissapointment when it finally ships I think I might start
 looking to learn another Db platform.




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MSSQL Link Server connection failure to Oracle 817

2003-10-28 Thread Denham Eva
Hello,

To my surprise I see there alot of us on this list, use MSSQL and Oracle in
the same environment.

So please forgive me for asking this but it is a huge issue here at my work.
The problem is like this, we have a MSSQL 2000 box connecting to Oracle 817,
via Linked servers using OLEDB. The jobs will run fine for awhile, but then
suddenly fail with the following error

Executed as user: TFMC\Administrator. OLE DB provider 'MSDASQL' reported an
error. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 7399)  Driver's SQLSetConnectAttr failed]
[SQLSTATE 01000] (Error 7312)  OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'MSDASQL'
IDBInitialize::Initialize returned 0x80004005:   ]. [SQLSTATE 01000] (Error
7300).  The step failed.

OK, this is specifically the MS driver being used here, but when Oracle
drivers are used, we have the same issues.
Both Databases are on HP/Compaq servers, and the Windows 2000 platform.
I have loaded the newest patches for OLEDB on the MSSQL for the Oracle
Client, but nothing helps.

Has anyone experienced this issue before?

Regards
Denham Eva
Oracle DBA
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dynamic sql problem

2003-10-28 Thread Siddharth Haldankar








Hi
Gurus,



I
have problem running Dynamic SQL through a package, though it runs fine in a
unnamed block.



This
is the sample code

DECLARE

lv_sql_stmt
VARCHAR2(2000);

begin


lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a number)';


EXECUTE IMMEDIATE lv_sql_stmt;

end;

/



This
runs fine.



But
as soon as I put this inside a package I get an error

PROCEDURE
test 

is

lv_sql_stmt
VARCHAR2(2000);

begin


lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a number)';


EXECUTE IMMEDIATE lv_sql_stmt;

end;



ERROR
at line 1:

ORA-01031:
insufficient privileges

ORA-06512:
at COMMADM.CT_REFRESH_PK, line 415

ORA-06512:
at line 1



This line
415 is the execute immediate line.



Any
clues why this is acting strangely.



Thanks
in advance for your time in answering to my query





With Warm Regards







Siddharth Haldankar

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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Richard Foote
Only two questions are required to ensure you get an appropriate person for
the job (any job):

1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?

and providing they answer the above question positively

2) Are you any good ?

Works every time ;)

Richard
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 I ask things like tell me the thing you've done that you are most
 proud of and tell me your nightmare situation and how did you recover
 from it

 Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of me, I call cab
infront of her.


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RE: dynamic sql problem

2003-10-28 Thread Paulo Gomes
Title: Mensagem



to use 
it inside packages u must have some priviledges given directly to u not to a 
role.

Regards
PG

  
  -Mensagem original-De: Siddharth Haldankar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada: terça-feira, 28 de Outubro de 
  2003 11:39Para: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LAssunto: dynamic sql problem
  
  Hi 
  Gurus,
  
  I 
  have problem running Dynamic SQL through a package, though it runs fine in a 
  unnamed block.
  
  This 
  is the sample code
  DECLARE
  lv_sql_stmt 
  VARCHAR2(2000);
  begin
   lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a 
  number)';
   EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 
  lv_sql_stmt;
  end;
  /
  
  This 
  runs fine.
  
  But 
  as soon as I put this inside a package I get an error
  PROCEDURE test 
  is
  lv_sql_stmt 
  VARCHAR2(2000);
  begin
   lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a 
  number)';
   EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 
  lv_sql_stmt;
  end;
  
  ERROR 
  at line 1:
  ORA-01031: insufficient privileges
  ORA-06512: at "COMMADM.CT_REFRESH_PK", line 
  415
  ORA-06512: at line 1
  
  This 
  line 415 is the execute immediate line.
  
  Any 
  clues why this is acting strangely.
  
  Thanks in advance for your time in answering to my 
  query
  
  
  With Warm 
Regards
  
  
  
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  Haldankar
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Re: 8th Deadly Sin - Unkept Promises

2003-10-28 Thread Yechiel Adar
The one that I like was cloning and version control of the software.
When you need a new server you can tell oracle to clone the software from
existing server.
Also you can install patch in one server and then move it to one or more
servers.
You can also clone databases this way.

Next versions will allow you to clone whole computers, including the OS.

All this is primarily done to create and manage servers in the grid but will
work also on standalone servers.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 As a tool provider, I'm interested - what promises did they make for OEM
 10g?

 Cheers

 Mark


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 Sent: 28 October 2003 09:54
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 The fact that they baited you with 10g to make you listen to sales pitch
 does not say anything about 10g.
 I was in OOW in Paris last week and 10g seems to have a lot of goodies in
 it.
 As we are now moving to 9.2 I do not think that we will use 10g but will
 jump, in 3-4 years, to 11g.
 Anyway I am going to move to OEM 10g, if they deliver on promises made
 during presentations.

 Yechiel Adar
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  I went to Oracle technology day in Milwaukee the other day and was a bit
 put
  off by the marketing hype on 10g and the lack of 10g facts. The
 technology
  day was promoted as a grid day...10g this and grid that. What did we
 get?
  Marketing hype about collaboration suite. They used 10g to get people to
  come and listen to pitches for 9iRAC and collaboration suite.
 
  The demo on 9iRAC was on RAW partitions and was not useing OCFS.
 
  If 10g is a dissapointment when it finally ships I think I might start
  looking to learn another Db platform.
 
 
 
 
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RE: dynamic sql problem

2003-10-28 Thread McBain, Neil SITI-ITDIEEE



Your 
account probably has the create table privilege granted through the resource 
role, grant create table to your account and try again, privileges granted 
through a role are not active when running a procedure.

  -Original Message-From: Siddharth Haldankar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 28 October 2003 
  11:39To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  dynamic sql problem
  
  Hi 
  Gurus,
  
  I 
  have problem running Dynamic SQL through a package, though it runs fine in a 
  unnamed block.
  
  This 
  is the sample code
  DECLARE
  lv_sql_stmt 
  VARCHAR2(2000);
  begin
   lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a 
  number)';
   EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 
  lv_sql_stmt;
  end;
  /
  
  This 
  runs fine.
  
  But 
  as soon as I put this inside a package I get an error
  PROCEDURE test 
  is
  lv_sql_stmt 
  VARCHAR2(2000);
  begin
   lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a 
  number)';
   EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 
  lv_sql_stmt;
  end;
  
  ERROR 
  at line 1:
  ORA-01031: insufficient privileges
  ORA-06512: at "COMMADM.CT_REFRESH_PK", line 
  415
  ORA-06512: at line 1
  
  This 
  line 415 is the execute immediate line.
  
  Any 
  clues why this is acting strangely.
  
  Thanks in advance for your time in answering to my 
  query
  
  
  With Warm 
Regards
  
  
  
  Siddharth 
  Haldankar
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  Ltd.
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RE: dynamic sql problem

2003-10-28 Thread Charu Joshi



Siddharth,


All roles are disabled in any named PL/SQL block (stored 
procedure, function, or
trigger) that executes with definer rights.

The SESSION_ROLES view shows all roles that are 
currently enabled. If a named
PL/SQL block that executes with definer rights queries 
SESSION_ROLES, the query
does not return any rows.

Named PL/SQL blocks that execute with invoker rights and 
anonymous PL/SQL
blocks are executed based on privileges granted through 
enabled roles.

So 
the problem might be that you have been granted 'CREATE TABLE' through a role 
and not directly.

Regards,
Charu.

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Siddharth 
  HaldankarSent: 28 October 2003 17:09To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: dynamic sql 
  problem
  
  Hi 
  Gurus,
  
  I 
  have problem running Dynamic SQL through a package, though it runs fine in a 
  unnamed block.
  
  This 
  is the sample code
  DECLARE
  lv_sql_stmt 
  VARCHAR2(2000);
  begin
   lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a 
  number)';
   EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 
  lv_sql_stmt;
  end;
  /
  
  This 
  runs fine.
  
  But 
  as soon as I put this inside a package I get an error
  PROCEDURE test 
  is
  lv_sql_stmt 
  VARCHAR2(2000);
  begin
   lv_sql_stmt := 'create table a_temp (a 
  number)';
   EXECUTE IMMEDIATE 
  lv_sql_stmt;
  end;
  
  ERROR 
  at line 1:
  ORA-01031: insufficient privileges
  ORA-06512: at "COMMADM.CT_REFRESH_PK", line 
  415
  ORA-06512: at line 1
  
  This 
  line 415 is the execute immediate line.
  
  Any 
  clues why this is acting strangely.
  
  Thanks in advance for your time in answering to my 
  query
  
  
  With Warm 
Regards
  
  
  
  Siddharth 
  Haldankar
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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Tanel Poder
 Only two questions are required to ensure you get an appropriate person
for
 the job (any job):

 1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?

David who?

Shall we sign the contracts now? ;)

Tanel.


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RE: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-28 Thread Khedr, Waleed
It's 800 sec for 5617 exec/fetch calls. It looks like it's a sql inside a
cursor loop or stored proc that gets called from some app.
If you are unhappy, try to get rid of the cursor logic and get everything
done in one sql call.

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Hi,

Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU
timewhy?




SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount,
  discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,
  retail_cut_amount, cost_cut_amount, gp_room
from tbljnwpbookvendortype t1, tbljnwpbookvendor t2
  where t1.jnwpbvid = t2.jnwpbvid
  and t2.prsuid = :b3
  and t2.wpbkid = :b2
  and t1.wpptid = :b1

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Execute   5618  0.63   0.58  0  0  0
0
Fetch 5617800.05 782.07  01409683  0
4187
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total11236800.68 782.66  01409683  0
4187

Misses in library cache during parse: 0
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 109  (DDTBL)   (recursive depth: 1)

Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   NESTED LOOPS
  0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR'
  0 INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR_UQ1' (UNIQUE)
  0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE'
  0 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE_IDX1' 
(NON-UNIQUE)




Muqthar Ahmed


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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 10/28/2003 06:59:24 AM, Richard Foote wrote:
1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?
Or what.


and providing they answer the above question positively

2) Are you any good ?
I'm ad to the one.

Mladen Gogala
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RE: Solved - RE: UTL_RAW and slowness

2003-10-28 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Thanks Vladimir ... your input has made me look at my code again ... 

Here is relevant portion of profsum.sql output ...
profsum

Lines taking more than 1% of the total time, each run separate

RUNID   HSECSPCT OWNER   UNIT_NAME LINE# TEXT
- --- -- --- --   -- -
3  809.03   86.3 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ246 ntcpchar := ASCII(SUBSTR 
(msg_text, i,1));
3   69.297.4 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ256 COMMIT;
3   13.621.5 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ248 nenctcpchar := 
TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
3   10.131.1 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ247 r_chr := 
utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
=
=

Most popular lines (more than 1%), summarize across all runs

  HSECSPCT UNIT_OWNER  UNIT_NAME LINE# TEXT
--- -- ---  -- -
 809.03   86.3 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ246 ntcpchar := ASCII(SUBSTR (msg_text, 
i,1));
  69.297.4 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ256 COMMIT;
  13.621.5 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ248 nenctcpchar := 
TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
  10.131.1 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ247 r_chr = 
utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
/profsum

This shows that substr must have been the culprit ... 

BTW I benchmarked your code, extended the strings to 2000 characters and ran each 
conversion in a loop of 2000 and using utl_raw method turned out to be the fastest.

thanks again for your insight and sample code ... I never knew nor noticed other 
utl_raw subprograms like utl_raw.copies ...

Now due to pipelining my code is very fast and to accomodate a 122 baud feed, I have 
insert artificial delays in my code. 8:)
Raj

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Raj,

Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
 Read if you are interested ...
 
 Finally I got some time and luckily the largest message to use with dbms_profiler.
  And the results shocked me  dbms_profiler showed me that instead of utl_raw,
  substr() was the culprit. Remember my operation is character by character.

Could you please show dbms_profiler output data? I'd also suggest to remove
everything related to TCP/IP out from the code -- to get the clear picture.

Some questions/suggestions, if you do not mind

. I do not think that you need utl_raw to do byte by byte xor operation -- you
could do it using BITAND -- it should be faster.

. What's the point to do it char by char in general? Do you modify encryption
key making it dependent on each given char in the string? If not why not to
use something like the code below (see r1), hope I did not make any mistake:

VAR r1 VARCHAR2(256);
VAR r2 VARCHAR2(256);
VAR r3 VARCHAR2(256);
DECLARE
  r_key RAW(1) := '41'; -- hex
  r_key_n   BINARY_INTEGER := 65; -- dec

  l_n   BINARY_INTEGER; -- ASCII of current char

  -- string to be encrypted
  l_string  VARCHAR2(128) := 'AZBYCXDWEVFUGT';
  -- its length
  l_string_len  BINARY_INTEGER := NVL(LENGTH(l_string), 0);
BEGIN
  -- string
  -- one can define utl_raw.copies(r_key, 128) as a constant, if it's possible.
  :r1 :=
utl_raw.substr(utl_raw.bit_xor(utl_raw.cast_to_raw(l_string), 
utl_raw.copies(r_key, 128)), 1, l_string_len);

  -- char by char
  :r2 := '';
  FOR i IN 1..l_string_len
  LOOP
:r2 := :r2 || utl_raw.bit_xor(utl_raw.cast_to_raw(SUBSTR(l_string, i, 1)), r_key);
  END LOOP;

  -- bitand
  :r3 := '';
  FOR i IN 1..l_string_len
  LOOP
l_n := ASCII(SUBSTR(l_string, i, 1));
:r3 := :r3 || TO_CHAR(BITAND(-BITAND(-l_n - 1, -r_key_n - 1) - 1, -BITAND(l_n, 
r_key_n) - 1), 'FM0X');
  END LOOP;

END;
/
PRINT r1
PRINT r2
PRINT r3

BTW, you have double conversion to ASCII then back to CHR (lines 6 and 7) --
it's not dramatic but it can be eliminated.

HTH.

  1 msglen := LENGTH (msg_text);
  2 nCharsSent := 0;
  3 p('Encrypting data...');
  4 FOR i IN 1 .. msglen
  5 LOOP
  6  ntcpchar := ASCII (SUBSTR (msg_text, i, 1));
  7  r_chr:= utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
  8  nenctcpchar := TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
  9  tcpmsglen := UTL_TCP.write_text (gv_tcp_conn, CHR(nenctcpchar), NULL);
10  nCharsSent := nCharssent + 1;
11  IF MOD(ncharssent,128) = 0 THEN
12p('Before Flush ...');
13UTL_TCP.FLUSH (gv_tcp_conn);
14p('Connection Flushed at ' || ncharssent);
15  END IF;
16  --
17 END LOOP; -- FOR i IN 1 .. msglen

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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Tim Gorman
You're likely to get the kind of response my kids would give:

   Wasn't he with the Beatles or the Stones or some other *old*
band like that?

Hell, my son considers the Offspring to be over the hill and Linkin Park
as starting to lose it...

About 7 years ago, I interviewed someone who listed Phish as one of his
interests.  I asked him What is Phish? and then spelled it for him.  The
expressions that swept across his face in one second ran from frank
astonishment, to disbelief, to pity, to a carefully-composed poker face as
he answered, A musical group that I like.

Food for thought:  when I was a kid in the 70s, my father would play his
big band records and my brothers and I would roll our eyes and leave the
house.  Such lame, ancient music!  At the time, those recordings were 30-35
years old...

Um...

For a kid today, the Stones, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Yes, and
Bowie are far more ancient.  Not just in years, but the years do add up...

..'scuse me, I think I hear a bottle of Metamucil calling...



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 Only two questions are required to ensure you get an appropriate person for
 the job (any job):
 
 1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?
 
 and providing they answer the above question positively
 
 2) Are you any good ?
 
 Works every time ;)
 
 Richard
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 proud of and tell me your nightmare situation and how did you recover
 from it
 
 Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of me, I call cab
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RE: Conflicting Java VM after Oracle 9.2 client install

2003-10-28 Thread babette.turnerunderwood
We had a similar problem with a IE application using a particular version of Java - it 
broke once we did an Oracle 9i client install. Not sure if the same thing might help 
you.

The workaround that I used was to export the registry for the Java Version
(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE - JavaSoft - Java Plug-in - 1.3.1_08), renamed the existing key 
to 1.3.1_01 and re-imported the registry. End result was two directories (a 01 and 
an 08) and things started working again.

It helped that I had an explorer error pop-up saying it could not locate 1.3.1_01, so 
I had a clue as to what to use as the new name.

Babette Turner-Underwood

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Hi!

Does anybody have any exprience with conflicting client JVMs?

We are installing software though Microsoft SMS software packaging on the
Clients (PC running XP). 

The deal is that another application (PVCS Dimensions) works fine if it is
distributed on the systems without the Oracle 9.2 client. 

Because it can then use the Microsoft Virtual Machine that comes with
Internet Explorer. 

But if we also install the Oracle Client 9.2, the Sun Java VM is installed
as well and then the PVCS client doesn't work anymore. 

The question is: can I install the Oracle Client without having the Sun VM
installed? 

Or is there a way that I can modify my Oracle installation that it doesn't
change Internet Explorer settings to use the Sun VM?

This is 9.2 client on Win XP.

Thanks,
Helmut
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Re: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-28 Thread Jared Still
Have you run SQLTRACE on this query?

The detail in the trace file will show
where the cpu is being consumed.

There is insufficient data in the summary
to reach any conclusion.

Jared

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 21:24, Muqthar Ahmed wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU timewhy?
 
 
 
 SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount,
   discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,
   retail_cut_amount, cost_cut_amount, gp_room
 from tbljnwpbookvendortype t1, tbljnwpbookvendor t2
   where t1.jnwpbvid = t2.jnwpbvid
   and t2.prsuid = :b3
   and t2.wpbkid = :b2
   and t1.wpptid = :b1
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
 --- --   -- -- -- --  --
 Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0   0
 Execute   5618  0.63   0.58  0  0  0   0
 Fetch 5617800.05 782.07  01409683  04187
 --- --   -- -- -- --  --
 total11236800.68 782.66  01409683  04187
 
 Misses in library cache during parse: 0
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 109  (DDTBL)   (recursive depth: 1)
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   0   NESTED LOOPS
   0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR'
   0 INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR_UQ1' (UNIQUE)
   0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE'
   0 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE_IDX1' 
 (NON-UNIQUE)
 
 
 
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Re: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-28 Thread Linda Wang
Tim,
Thanks for your reply.
The select count(*) is doing an index range scan on the column tid. No table 
access in the execution plan. The query you provided returned the following 
result:

NUM_ROWS DISTINCT_KEYS AVG_LEAF_BLOCKS_PER_KEY AVG_DATA_BLOCKS_PER_KEY  
LAST_ANAL
-   ---  
  --- -
2326064.1  161201 1  
3  28-OCT-03

I have tried local partition index on tid but the execution time was still 
around 10secs for the initial execution and 1sec subsequently. The table is 
partitioned on a date field.

I would be interested to know if there is a way to speed up the initial 
execution or how to diagnose what the delay was. It does not seems right 
that there is such a big difference in elapsed time between the initial and 
subsequent execution.

I monitored the wait events during both executions. They were all pretty 
low. It does not appear to be I/O bound either. tnsping from my PC to the 
database took about 30msec. Any other suggestions what I could check?

Thanks.

linda

select * from v$session_event where sid=98;

Initial run:
SID EVENTTOTAL  TOTAL   TIME   AVERAGE 
MAX
  WAITS  TIMEOUTS  WAITED  WAIT 
 WAIT
---    -    --   
   
98 latch free 115  681  
.008695652   1
98 control file sequential read 300  
0   0
98 refresh controlfile command   100 
 0   0
98 buffer busy waits  100
  0  0
98 log file sync  101
  1  1
98 db file sequential read   1968   0 827   
.42022357710
98 file open  502
 .4  1
98 SQL*Net message to client   305  00   
   0   0
98 SQL*Net message from client  3040  31819  104.667763  
29911

Subsequent run:
-
SID EVENT   TOTAL  TOTAL   TIME   AVERAGE
 MAX
 WAITS  TIMEOUTS  WAITED  WAIT  
WAIT
---    -    
--  
99 latch free 162 93   3   
.018518519   2
99 control file sequential read  3  0   0
0 0
99 refresh controlfile command1  0   0   
 0 0
99 buffer busy waits  1  00  
  0 0
99 log file sync  1  00  
  0 0
99 file open  3  01  
 .3   1
99 SQL*Net message to client   54  00
0 0
99 SQL*Net message from client53  02893   54.5849057 
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From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: performance issue on select count(*)
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:34:59 -0800
Linda,

I am guessing that since your table is partitioned on an unspecified date
column, that the index on TID is either LOCAL or non-partitioned (i.e.
GLOBAL).
If it is LOCAL (you would have had to specify the keyword, as it is not the
default), then you will be performing indexed RANGE scans on each of the
partitions in the index.  Naturally, the more partitions there are, the
longer this may take, but probably not a great deal longer than if the 
index
was a GLOBAL non-partitioned index.

But regardless of the number of RANGE scans and the type of index it is, 
the
main question is whether TID is a good index to use in the first place.
This is a matter of data, purely the nature of the data.

You can diagnose this better using results from the following query:

SELECT  NUM_ROWS,
DISTINCT_KEYS,
AVG_LEAF_BLOCKS_PER_KEY,
AVG_DATA_BLOCKS_PER_KEY,
LAST_ANALYZED
FROMDBA_INDEXES
WHERE   INDEX_NAME = 'name-of-index';
Of particular interest are the values in AVG_LEAF_BLOCKS_PER_KEY and
AVG_DATA_BLOCKS_PER_KEY, as the cost-based optimizer uses these to 
calculate
the cost of an index RANGE scan (assuming that column-level statistics or
histograms have not been gathered).

If the values of these two columns are high, then the CBO will be hesitant
to use 

RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Conner, Bill
I am shocked Tim you forgot Robbin Trower :-).

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You're likely to get the kind of response my kids would give:

   Wasn't he with the Beatles or the Stones or some other *old*
band like that?

Hell, my son considers the Offspring to be over the hill and Linkin Park
as starting to lose it...

About 7 years ago, I interviewed someone who listed Phish as one of his
interests.  I asked him What is Phish? and then spelled it for him.  The
expressions that swept across his face in one second ran from frank
astonishment, to disbelief, to pity, to a carefully-composed poker face as
he answered, A musical group that I like.

Food for thought:  when I was a kid in the 70s, my father would play his
big band records and my brothers and I would roll our eyes and leave the
house.  Such lame, ancient music!  At the time, those recordings were 30-35
years old...

Um...

For a kid today, the Stones, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Yes, and
Bowie are far more ancient.  Not just in years, but the years do add up...

..'scuse me, I think I hear a bottle of Metamucil calling...



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 Only two questions are required to ensure you get an appropriate person
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 1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?
 
 and providing they answer the above question positively
 
 2) Are you any good ?
 
 Works every time ;)
 
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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Stephane Paquette
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On 10/28/2003 06:59:24 AM, Richard Foote wrote:

 1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?

Or what.



 and providing they answer the above question positively

 2) Are you any good ?

I'm ad to the one.

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RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-28 Thread Jesse, Rich
I know, I know, it's a bit of a stretch, but I think the idea's the same --
subsets of work divided between multiple machines.  It's just that distcc is
implemented at a much higher level than what's probably considered grid.
The benefit is that it's much easier to implement.  The downside is that
it's usefulness is much more limited.  But in this case, I think it works
well, at least according to my co-workers who use it.

Perhaps grid-wise Matt would care to comment?

Gridfullessnessly yours,
Rich


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 Rich,
 
 That really isn't 'grid', but I think you know that.
 
 GC essentially makes a network look like one great big
 box, with the cross platform functionality included.
 
 In the immortal words of Scott McNeally:
 The network is the computer.  :)
 
 Don't know if he said if first.  John Brunner was likely
 the first to get the concept in print.
 
 Jared
 
 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 10:09, Jesse, Rich wrote:
  Some of us here at work have been using grid computing to compile
  programs...
  
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml
  
  Standard disclaimers apply (e.g. all machines must have 
 same versions of
  copmiler, same architecture, etc. to avoid problems).
  
  
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Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-28 Thread AK
S Does it mean that a network with 100 computers of 1 cpu each is almost
equivalent to 100 cpu giant computer ??
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 Rich,

 That really isn't 'grid', but I think you know that.

 GC essentially makes a network look like one great big
 box, with the cross platform functionality included.

 In the immortal words of Scott McNeally:
 The network is the computer.  :)

 Don't know if he said if first.  John Brunner was likely
 the first to get the concept in print.

 Jared

 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 10:09, Jesse, Rich wrote:
  Some of us here at work have been using grid computing to compile
  programs...
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml
 
  Standard disclaimers apply (e.g. all machines must have same versions of
  copmiler, same architecture, etc. to avoid problems).
 
 
  Rich
 
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   Dick, Jared
  If you look at the big picture, 20 years ago the idea of a
   PC with the
   throughput of a mainframe was laughable. Not so laughable today. Large
   systems use many of the same components as PCs. Whether this
   means the grid
   is more than hype remains to be seen.  But I suspect Larry
   would prefer you
   spent your money on Oracle licensing instead of hardware. And
   this may be an
   area where Oracle can keep ahead of the open-source folks.
  
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RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-28 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?






Oracle will probably think so with their per CPU pricing.


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S Does it mean that a network with 100 computers of 1 cpu each is almost

equivalent to 100 cpu giant computer ??

-ak





Re: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-28 Thread Binley Lim

The symptom suggests caching is a big factor here - most likely
block-buffers.

Contrary to ?current? popular beliefs, BCHR is still a very  relevant
performance indicator - either being very high, or being too low - both of
which gives a good indication of something that needs to be looked at.


 I would be interested to know if there is a way to speed up the initial
 execution or how to diagnose what the delay was. It does not seems right
 that there is such a big difference in elapsed time between the initial
and
 subsequent execution.


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RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-28 Thread Cunningham, Gerald
I don't know... It's definitely an interesting concept though, isn't it?

Check this out:

http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=1560024
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S Does it mean that a network with 100 computers of 1 cpu each is
almost equivalent to 100 cpu giant computer ?? -ak

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 Rich,

 That really isn't 'grid', but I think you know that.

 GC essentially makes a network look like one great big
 box, with the cross platform functionality included.

 In the immortal words of Scott McNeally:
 The network is the computer.  :)

 Don't know if he said if first.  John Brunner was likely
 the first to get the concept in print.

 Jared

 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 10:09, Jesse, Rich wrote:
  Some of us here at work have been using grid computing to compile 
  programs...
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml
 
  Standard disclaimers apply (e.g. all machines must have same 
  versions of copmiler, same architecture, etc. to avoid problems).
 
 
  Rich
 
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   Dick, Jared
  If you look at the big picture, 20 years ago the idea of a PC 
   with the throughput of a mainframe was laughable. Not so laughable

   today. Large systems use many of the same components as PCs. 
   Whether this means the grid
   is more than hype remains to be seen.  But I suspect Larry
   would prefer you
   spent your money on Oracle licensing instead of hardware. And
   this may be an
   area where Oracle can keep ahead of the open-source folks.
  
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RE: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-28 Thread Muqthar Ahmed
Jared,

The output is from TKPROF.

Muqthar

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Have you run SQLTRACE on this query?

The detail in the trace file will show
where the cpu is being consumed.

There is insufficient data in the summary
to reach any conclusion.

Jared

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 21:24, Muqthar Ahmed wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU timewhy?
 
 
 
 SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount,
   discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,
   retail_cut_amount, cost_cut_amount, gp_room
 from tbljnwpbookvendortype t1, tbljnwpbookvendor t2
   where t1.jnwpbvid = t2.jnwpbvid
   and t2.prsuid = :b3
   and t2.wpbkid = :b2
   and t1.wpptid = :b1
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
 --- --   -- -- -- --  --
 Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0   0
 Execute   5618  0.63   0.58  0  0  0   0
 Fetch 5617800.05 782.07  01409683  04187
 --- --   -- -- -- --  --
 total11236800.68 782.66  01409683  04187
 
 Misses in library cache during parse: 0
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 109  (DDTBL)   (recursive depth: 1)
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   0   NESTED LOOPS
   0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR'
   0 INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR_UQ1' (UNIQUE)
   0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE'
   0 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE_IDX1' 
 (NON-UNIQUE)
 
 
 
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RE: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-28 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
just in case, if you have specified explain= on the command line to generate tkprof 
summary, remove it and just do

tkprof filename ... 

which version of oracle?

Raj

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Jared,

The output is from TKPROF.

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Have you run SQLTRACE on this query?

The detail in the trace file will show
where the cpu is being consumed.

There is insufficient data in the summary
to reach any conclusion.

Jared

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 21:24, Muqthar Ahmed wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU timewhy?
 
 
 
 SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount,
   discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,
   retail_cut_amount, cost_cut_amount, gp_room
 from tbljnwpbookvendortype t1, tbljnwpbookvendor t2
   where t1.jnwpbvid = t2.jnwpbvid
   and t2.prsuid = :b3
   and t2.wpbkid = :b2
   and t1.wpptid = :b1
 
 call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
 --- --   -- -- -- --  --
 Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0   0
 Execute   5618  0.63   0.58  0  0  0   0
 Fetch 5617800.05 782.07  01409683  04187
 --- --   -- -- -- --  --
 total11236800.68 782.66  01409683  04187
 
 Misses in library cache during parse: 0
 Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
 Parsing user id: 109  (DDTBL)   (recursive depth: 1)
 
 Rows Execution Plan
 ---  ---
   0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
   0   NESTED LOOPS
   0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR'
   0 INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR_UQ1' (UNIQUE)
   0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE'
   0 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE_IDX1' 
 (NON-UNIQUE)
 
 
 
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Re: RE: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-28 Thread ryan_oracle
check out asktom. its up for today. if you use an 8i tkprof on a 9i trace file, you 
get bad cpu results.

are you doing that? 
 
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 Jared,
 
 The output is from TKPROF.
 
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 Have you run SQLTRACE on this query?
 
 The detail in the trace file will show
 where the cpu is being consumed.
 
 There is insufficient data in the summary
 to reach any conclusion.
 
 Jared
 
 On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 21:24, Muqthar Ahmed wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU 
  timewhy?
  
  
  
  SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount,
discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,
retail_cut_amount, cost_cut_amount, gp_room
  from tbljnwpbookvendortype t1, tbljnwpbookvendor t2
where t1.jnwpbvid = t2.jnwpbvid
and t2.prsuid = :b3
and t2.wpbkid = :b2
and t1.wpptid = :b1
  
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
  --- --   -- -- -- --  --
  Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0   0
  Execute   5618  0.63   0.58  0  0  0   0
  Fetch 5617800.05 782.07  01409683  04187
  --- --   -- -- -- --  --
  total11236800.68 782.66  01409683  04187
  
  Misses in library cache during parse: 0
  Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
  Parsing user id: 109  (DDTBL)   (recursive depth: 1)
  
  Rows Execution Plan
  ---  ---
0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
0   NESTED LOOPS
0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR'
0 INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR_UQ1' (UNIQUE)
0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE'
0 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE_IDX1' 
  (NON-UNIQUE)
  
  
  
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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread John Blake
SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
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Unaccounted-for elapsed time

2003-10-28 Thread Paul Baumgartel
I've been a believer in response-time-based performance optimization
for some time now, and reading Cary Millsap's book has reinforced my
belief.  That said, I'm looking for some help in identifying what I
_think_ is unaccounted-for elapsed time.

Both tkprof and trcanlzr show (sorry for the wrapped lines):

callcount   cpu   elapsed diskquery 
current rowsmisses
--- - - -  
  -
Parse  90  0.02  0.0100
   00 1
Execute45  0.09  0.090   24
   00 1
Fetch  45  4.11 28.20013210
   0   45 0
--- - - -  
  -
total 180  4.22 28.30013234
   0   45 2


And the waits

Event
Times Count  Max. TotalBlocks
waited on   
Waited Zero Time  WaitWaited  Accessed
-
- - - - -
SQL*Net message from client (idle)...  
225 0  0.01  0.56
SQL*Net message to client (idle).  
225 0  0.00  0.00
-
- - - - -
total  
450 0  0.01  0.57 0

non-idle waits...  
  0 0  0.00  0.00 0
idle waits...  
450 0  0.01  0.57


Now, the SQL statement that produced this output makes a couple of
function calls...does the elapsed time here include the waits that the
function calls might cause?  I have 24 seconds of elapsed that aren't
accounted for.

TIA,







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Re: Refresh option for Materialized view , want to use it during refresh - for

2003-10-28 Thread David Boyd
Arup,

I really appreciate your answer in great details.  I got on prebuilt table 
work.  Thanks a lot for your help.  Here is another question:

Do you see any advantage to use materialized view on prebuilt table for my 
data loading over just simple renaming tables as steps below:

1. create table t that is always accessed by applications
2. create table t1 that is a temp table for loading
3. load data into table t1
4. rename table t to table t2
5. rename table t1 to t
6. rename table t2 to t1
7. truncate table t1 for next day loading
David


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David,

Answers to your questions:

(1) Without knowing your exact needs, I wil offer a few different 
scenarios.
I am assuming that you are doing a complete refresh every time. The
following pertain to that.

Say, your name of the MV is MV1. Here are the steps the first time.

1. Create table MV1
2. Create MV MV1 on that table.
When you want to refresh complete:

1. Create table MV1_TEMP. Choose a suitable method: CTAS across dblink 
(with
NOLOGGING), SQL*Loader, Direct Load Insert, or simpley exp/imp.
2. Drop MV MV1. This drops the MV but doesn't drop the table.
3. Drop table MV1.
4. Rename table MV1_TEMP to MV1.
5. Recreate MV MV1.
6. Allow users to proceed as usual.

Note the time consumed between Steps 2 and 6 are in the order of a few
seconds. And it's the only time the users will not have access to the MV, 
as
opposed to a full refresh using dbms_mview.refresh approach., which will
lock the MV for the entire duration and generate tons of redo and rollback.

Even if you do a incremental refresh, this is still a better approach. In
that case, you don't drop the table during the refresh.
(2) Yes, the option is available in 8i, at least in 8.1.7. Make sure the
syntax is correct.
create materialized view MV1
on prebuilt table
refresh fast
as
select ... from 
In the article I mentioned, you can find the complete syntax.
www.proligence.com/downloads.html is the site. It also dscribes a step by
step solution to the issue and compares the common solution with this new
one.
Hope this helps.

Arup Nanda

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refresh - for
 Hi Arup,

 This is a very good method.  I would like to use it to modify some of my
 data loading procedures.  Here are my questions:
 1. Do I need to create the table on the step 1 every time when I refresh
the
 data If I refresh data once per day?
 2. Is ON PREBUILT TABLE available on Oracle 8i?  When I was trying the
 method on Oracle 8i, I got missing keyword error on PREBUILT.

 Dave

 
 Siddharth,
 
 I will offer a slightly out-of-the-box solution. Please read it through
 till the end to determine its applicability in your case.
 
 It seems yours refresh interval is once a day and you don't mind stale
 data for a max of 24 hours. You also refresh is complete, not
 incremental. So, I would suggest the follwoing approach.
 
 (1) Create a table first
 CREATE TABLE CT_PRODUCTID_VW
 TABLESPACE 
 NOLOGGING
 AS
 SELECT .
 
 (2) When you are ready to refresh, drop the MV
 DROP MATERIALIZED VIEW CT_PRODUCTID_VW;
 
 (3) Create the MV with the PREBUILT TABLE option.
 CREATE
 MATERIALIZED VIEW CT_PRODUCTID_VW
 BUILD IMMEDIATE
 REFRESH START WITH SYSDATE
 NEXT (SYSDATE + 1)
 ON PREBUILT TABLE
 AS
 SELECT
  msi.segment1productid,
 ...
 
 Your MV is not accessible between STEP 2 and STEP3, which is really a
 dictionary update and takes about a second or so. So the outage is
 really 1 second, not 1/2 hr.
 
 A few explanations are in order here.
 
 (1) Creating an MV on a Prebuilt Table does not consume more space. The
 segment that used to be a table simply becomes an MV.
 (2) When you drop the MV, the MV is gone, but the table remains 
instact.
 (3) The table can be create by any means - export/import, SQL*Loader,
 INSERT APPEND, etc.
 (4) IT places less strain on the system comapred to the MV refresh
 option, simply because the MV refresh truncates the segment and then
 builds it.
 
 I presented a paper to the same effect at IOUG Live 2003. You can
 download a modified version of the same from my website
 www.proligence.com/downlaods.html, titled Painless Master Table Alter
 from the Presentations Section.
 
 HTH.
 
 Arup Nanda
 
 
 
 
 
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 refresh
 
 
 Hi Gurus,
 
 I have a materialized view, which is based on Oracle Apps tables and on
 remote database. The view refresh takes around ½ hour, during this time
 period I cannot see any records in the materialized view and therefore
 my application faces errors.
 The following is the view definition
 
 

Re: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
So, what exactly is indicated by a high or low hit rate? What, exactly, is high 
and what do you consider low? 
What HR are you talking about? 
This would be the infamous BCHR:

select 'bc_hit_ratio' ratio,( sum(decode(name, 'consistent gets',value,0))
+ sum(decode(name,'db block gets', value,0))
- sum(decode(name,'physical reads', value,0)))
/ ( sum(decode(name, 'consistent gets',value,0))
  + sum(decode(name,'db block gets', value,0)) ) * 100
from v$sysstat

What exactly should the number returned by this query tell me?


On 10/28/2003 10:59:25 AM, Binley Lim wrote:
 
 The symptom suggests caching is a big factor here - most likely
 block-buffers.
 
 Contrary to ?current? popular beliefs, BCHR is still a very  relevant
 performance indicator - either being very high, or being too low - both of
 which gives a good indication of something that needs to be looked at.
 
 
  I would be interested to know if there is a way to speed up the initial
  execution or how to diagnose what the delay was. It does not seems right
  that there is such a big difference in elapsed time between the initial
 and
  subsequent execution.
 
 
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Using an index defined on members of a user defined type

2003-10-28 Thread Hitchman, Peter
Hi,
I am looking at Oracle schema for IBM's MQ Workflow and I have a table that
has an index on members of a user defined type. This index is not getting
used when it could help a delete statement. Using the 10053 trace I got this
snippet in the trace:

SINGLE TABLE ACCESS PATH
  No statistics type defined for function TIMESTAMP_WF
  No default selectivity defined for function TIMESTAMP_WF

Does anyone have any experience in setting up functions so that the database
will use indexes against them?

In this case the table looks like this:

CREATE TABLE  AUDIT_TRAIL
(
CREATED TIMESTAMP_WFNOT NULL
  , EVENT   NUMBER(10,0)NOT NULL
  , TEMPL_VALID_FROMTIMESTAMP_WF
  , ACTIVITY_TYPE   NUMBER(10,0)
  , ACTIVITY_STATE  NUMBER(10,0)
  , ACTIVITY_RC NUMBER(10,0)
  , CONTAINER_CONTENT   BLOB
  , PROCESS_NAMEVARCHAR2(63)NOT NULL
  , PROCESS_ID  VARCHAR2(64)NOT NULL
  , TOP_LVL_PROC_NAME   VARCHAR2(63)NOT NULL
  , TOP_LVL_PROC_ID VARCHAR2(64)NOT NULL
  , PARENT_PROC_NAMEVARCHAR2(63)
  , PARENT_PROC_ID  VARCHAR2(64)
  , PROC_TEMPL_NAME VARCHAR2(32)NOT NULL
  , BLOCK_NAMES VARCHAR2(254)
  , USER_NAME   VARCHAR2(32)
  , SECOND_USER_NAMEVARCHAR2(32)
  , ACTIVITY_NAME   VARCHAR2(32)
  , SECOND_ACT_NAME VARCHAR2(32)
  , COMMAND_PARAMETERS  VARCHAR2(1024)
  , ASSOCIATED_OBJECT   VARCHAR2(64)
  , OBJECT_DESCRIPTION  VARCHAR2(254)
  , PROGRAM_NAMEVARCHAR2(32)
  , EXTERNAL_CONTEXTVARCHAR2(254)
)
TABLESPACE ADTTRAIL;

and the index is:

CREATE INDEX AT_CREATED_PROCID
   ON AUDIT_TRAIL
(
CREATED.D, CREATED.S
, PROCESS_ID
) TABLESPACE ADTTRAIL;


and here is the type

CREATE OR REPLACE TYPE TIMESTAMP_WF AS OBJECT(
D DATE,
S NUMBER(6),
STATIC FUNCTION CONSTRUCT( str VARCHAR2 ) RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF,
MEMBER FUNCTION AS_STRING RETURN VARCHAR2,
MEMBER FUNCTION AS_DATE_STRING RETURN VARCHAR2,
MEMBER FUNCTION ADD_SECONDS( sec INTEGER ) RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF,
MEMBER FUNCTION SUB_TIMESTAMP_WF(other_Timestamp IN TIMESTAMP_WF) RETURN
INTEGER
,
ORDER MEMBER FUNCTION COMPARE(other_Timestamp IN TIMESTAMP_WF) RETURN
INTEGER
);
/

CREATE OR REPLACE TYPE BODY TIMESTAMP_WF AS
  STATIC FUNCTION CONSTRUCT( str VARCHAR2 )  RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF IS
  BEGIN
 IF str IS NULL THEN
RETURN NULL;
 END IF;
 IF LENGTH( str ) = 26  THEN
RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF( TO_DATE( SUBSTR( str, 1,19 ),
'-mm-dd-hh24.mi.s
s' ),
 TO_NUMBER( SUBSTR( str, 21, 6 ) ));
 END IF;
 IF LENGTH( str ) = 19  THEN
RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF( TO_DATE( SUBSTR( str, 1,19 ),
'-mm-dd-hh24.mi.s
s'), 0 );
 END IF;
 RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF( TO_DATE('ERROR'), 0);
  END;
  MEMBER FUNCTION AS_STRING RETURN VARCHAR2 IS
  BEGIN
RETURN
TO_CHAR(D,'-mm-dd-hh24.mi.ss')||'.'||SUBSTR(To_Char(S,'099'),
3);
  END;
  MEMBER FUNCTION AS_DATE_STRING RETURN VARCHAR2 IS
  BEGIN
RETURN TO_CHAR(D,'-mm-dd-hh24.mi.ss');
  END;
  MEMBER FUNCTION ADD_SECONDS( sec INTEGER ) RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF IS
  BEGIN
 RETURN TIMESTAMP_WF( D + sec/86400, S );
  END;
  MEMBER FUNCTION SUB_TIMESTAMP_WF(other_Timestamp IN TIMESTAMP_WF) RETURN
INTEG
ER IS
  BEGIN
 RETURN ((D - other_TimeStamp.D)*86400);
  END;
  ORDER MEMBER FUNCTION COMPARE(other_Timestamp IN TIMESTAMP_WF) RETURN
INTEGER
IS
  BEGIN
IFD  other_Timestamp.D THEN RETURN  1;
ELSIF D  other_Timestamp.D THEN RETURN -1;
END IF;
RETURN S - other_Timestamp.S;
END;
END;
/

Regards

Pete

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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
This is how ours look like ...

STARTUP NOMOUNT
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE XXX NORESETLOGS  ARCHIVELOG
--  SET STANDBY TO MAXIMIZE PERFORMANCE
MAXLOGFILES 192
MAXLOGMEMBERS 3
MAXDATAFILES 1024
MAXINSTANCES 32
MAXLOGHISTORY 3403
LOGFILE
..

maybe it is that pfile line causing trouble ...
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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
John,

Did you see any messages in the alert log?  And what is in the cr_spap
script?  the startup nomount is failing immediately, so everything else is
worthless.

Review the initspap.ora file and make sure that all of the directories
exist.  Also, is the ORACLE_SID evironmental set prior to running sqlplus?

Tom Mercadante
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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
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and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
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Re: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Tanel Poder
Check to your alert log for error messages.
Maybe you haven't set your kernel parameters accordingly  your new instance
can't allocate enough resources it needs.

Tanel.

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 SQL @cr_spap
 SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
 pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
 ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
 SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
 2 MAXLOGFILES 50
 3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
 4 MAXDATAFILES 100
 5 MAXINSTANCES 1
 6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
 7 LOGFILE
 8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
 9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
 10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
 11 DATAFILE
 12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
 13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
 14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
 15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
 16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
 17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
 18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
 19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
 20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
 21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
 22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
 23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
 24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
 25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
 26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
 27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
 28 ;
 CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
 SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
 SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
 SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
 SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
 SQL

 The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the
machine.
 So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances
no
 problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
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 Sorry,
 AIX 5L to AIX 5L
 cold backup copies
 create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
 keeping the SID the same

 created init.ora from spfile
 startup nomount pfile=init.ora
 getting  ora-3113

 I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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Installing pro*cobol

2003-10-28 Thread Stephane Paquette
Hi,

We always copy the Oracle binaries rather than installing Oracle.
Our standard Oracle copy does not contain Pro*cobol.

After reading the doc I can summarize the installation of pro-cobol this
way.
(Cobol is already installed.)
- Install pro*cobol 817
- Apply path 8172 for pro*cobol only.

It seems I do not have to relink anything.

Did I missed something ?

The target server (aix433) has 28 instances with some important ones (user
testing).


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Database Administrator
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Re: Re: performance issue on select count(*)

2003-10-28 Thread ryan_oracle
yes bchr is only useful at extremes, but its based on interpretation. if you have a 
very high BCHR, you probably have alot of very bad sql. 

if you have a very low one AND are in a type of application where you should(namely 
OLTP) you may want to consider increasing your buffer cache.

mladen is right. there is no 'exact' very high and very low. you have to interpret it. 

that is about it. Anyone who uses it for anymore than that is wrong. 
 
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 Subject: Re: performance issue on select count(*)
 
 So, what exactly is indicated by a high or low hit rate? What, exactly, is high 
 and what do you consider low? 
 What HR are you talking about? 
 This would be the infamous BCHR:
 
 select 'bc_hit_ratio' ratio,( sum(decode(name, 'consistent gets',value,0))
 + sum(decode(name,'db block gets', value,0))
 - sum(decode(name,'physical reads', value,0)))
 / ( sum(decode(name, 'consistent gets',value,0))
   + sum(decode(name,'db block gets', value,0)) ) * 100
 from v$sysstat
 
 What exactly should the number returned by this query tell me?
 
 
 On 10/28/2003 10:59:25 AM, Binley Lim wrote:
  
  The symptom suggests caching is a big factor here - most likely
  block-buffers.
  
  Contrary to ?current? popular beliefs, BCHR is still a very  relevant
  performance indicator - either being very high, or being too low - both of
  which gives a good indication of something that needs to be looked at.
  
  
   I would be interested to know if there is a way to speed up the initial
   execution or how to diagnose what the delay was. It does not seems right
   that there is such a big difference in elapsed time between the initial
  and
   subsequent execution.
  
  
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RE: Execution Plan is good but HIGH CPU

2003-10-28 Thread Muqthar Ahmed
Hi,

The developer was executing the SQL statement in the loop in procedure.  After 
re-writing the code, now the performance is good.

Thanks
Muqthar Ahmed

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It's 800 sec for 5617 exec/fetch calls. It looks like it's a sql inside a
cursor loop or stored proc that gets called from some app.
If you are unhappy, try to get rid of the cursor logic and get everything
done in one sql call.

Waleed   

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Hi,

Execution plan looks good but the query is consuming 800 seconds CPU
timewhy?




SELECT sampleavail, sample_cost_amount, sample_sale_amount,
  discount_room, discount_case, discount_half_case, allow_cut,
  retail_cut_amount, cost_cut_amount, gp_room
from tbljnwpbookvendortype t1, tbljnwpbookvendor t2
  where t1.jnwpbvid = t2.jnwpbvid
  and t2.prsuid = :b3
  and t2.wpbkid = :b2
  and t1.wpptid = :b1

call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent
rows
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
Parse1  0.00   0.00  0  0  0
0
Execute   5618  0.63   0.58  0  0  0
0
Fetch 5617800.05 782.07  01409683  0
4187
--- --   -- -- -- --
--
total11236800.68 782.66  01409683  0
4187

Misses in library cache during parse: 0
Optimizer goal: CHOOSE
Parsing user id: 109  (DDTBL)   (recursive depth: 1)

Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   NESTED LOOPS
  0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR'
  0 INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDOR_UQ1' (UNIQUE)
  0TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE'
  0 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'TBLJNWPBOOKVENDORTYPE_IDX1' 
(NON-UNIQUE)




Muqthar Ahmed


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rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread AK



We take daily rman backup each nite at 10pm . Which 
means in worst case we risk one day of work. Now suppose something wrong 
goes before 10 pm . Then Can I recover my database till time using previous day 
rman backup and currently available archived logs.

Or in nutshell is it possible to run { restore 
databse; recover database } from rman and then apply remaing archived logs from 
a separated disk ( not a rman backup ).

Thanks,
-ak





RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Oddly, I was thinking the same thing about Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
And then I thought... NAAH.  Grail is the only common denominator that I
know of that all technical geeks have in common... but now that its some
obscene number of years old, I've been on a quest to find another one... a
non-Star Trek one, as Star Trek has so many adherents to various generations
of it...

Anyone?

Bambi.

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You're likely to get the kind of response my kids would give:

   Wasn't he with the Beatles or the Stones or some other *old*
band like that?

Hell, my son considers the Offspring to be over the hill and Linkin Park
as starting to lose it...

About 7 years ago, I interviewed someone who listed Phish as one of his
interests.  I asked him What is Phish? and then spelled it for him.  The
expressions that swept across his face in one second ran from frank
astonishment, to disbelief, to pity, to a carefully-composed poker face as
he answered, A musical group that I like.

Food for thought:  when I was a kid in the 70s, my father would play his
big band records and my brothers and I would roll our eyes and leave the
house.  Such lame, ancient music!  At the time, those recordings were 30-35
years old...

Um...

For a kid today, the Stones, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Yes, and
Bowie are far more ancient.  Not just in years, but the years do add up...

..'scuse me, I think I hear a bottle of Metamucil calling...



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 Only two questions are required to ensure you get an appropriate person
for
 the job (any job):
 
 1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?
 
 and providing they answer the above question positively
 
 2) Are you any good ?
 
 Works every time ;)
 
 Richard
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 Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of me, I call cab
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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Muqthar Ahmed
Hi,

You DO NOT have to CLONE the databases if you are upgrading the OS from 4.3.3 to 5L.  
You mentioned that the instances are already running.

IBM has break the technology at AIX 5.1.0.0, meaning the AIX 4.3.3 and AIX 5.1.0.0 
have different architecture.  So if you are upgrading IBM AIX 4.3.3 to AIX 5.1.0.0, 
you also have to upgrade Oracle at the same time.  Oracle 9.2 CDs are separate for IBM 
AIX 4.3.3 and IBM AIX 5.1.0.0.

If you are in this situation, all you have to is shutdown all databases, install 
Oracle 9.2 with 5L CDs in new ORACEL HOME and setup your environment with new ORACLE 
HOME to start your existing databases.

Muqthar Ahmed


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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
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was: AIX 9.2 refresh

2003-10-28 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: was: AIX 9.2 refresh






Please ignore my last replay about control file ...


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wither Designer documentation?

2003-10-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Where is the Designer 9i documentation?

Not on OTN (http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/designer.html), 
not in download-east
(http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/A91773_01/ids902dl/index.htm ), 
not in tahiti... (http://tahiti.oracle.com )

Oracle Designer Generation seems to be the only book (Oracle Press).

Oracle Designer Handbook by Pete Koletzke was published in 1998.

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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Thater, William
Bellow, Bambi  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

 Oddly, I was thinking the same thing about Monty Python and the Holy
 Grail. And then I thought... NAAH.  Grail is the only common
 denominator that I know of that all technical geeks have in common...
 but now that its some obscene number of years old, I've been on a
 quest to find another one... a non-Star Trek one, as Star Trek has so
 many adherents to various generations of it...
 
 Anyone?

dust puppy and the one true ping?

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Re: wither Designer documentation?

2003-10-28 Thread Tracy Rahmlow

I have had the same problem.  I have contacted Oracle for a user guide with
no response as of yet.  I am literally printing off the help pages within
Designer to address the need.  It sucks




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Where is the Designer 9i documentation?

Not on OTN (http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/designer.html),
not in download-east
(http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/A91773_01/ids902dl/index.htm ),
not in tahiti... (http://tahiti.oracle.com )

Oracle Designer Generation seems to be the only book (Oracle Press).

Oracle Designer Handbook by Pete Koletzke was published in 1998.

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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Jose Luis Delgado
Hi John...

Actually I do not use AIX, but I used to work with 3x
and first 4x version.

I do not know if your AIX version still manages AIX
modules, but if it does, then you need to load the
modules pointed in your root.sh (or rootpre.sh) file,
I do not remember very well.

Of course, you can run the command manually with the
root account.

I think this error is because you need to have your
aix modules loaded and of course, this affects your
kernel parameters, i.e. your new instance
cannot allocate enough resources as is needed.

HTH
JL

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 SQL @cr_spap
 SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT

pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
 ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
 SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP
 RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
 2 MAXLOGFILES 50
 3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
 4 MAXDATAFILES 100
 5 MAXINSTANCES 1
 6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
 7 LOGFILE
 8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE
 100M,
 9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE
 100M,
 10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE
 100M
 11 DATAFILE
 12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
 13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
 14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
 15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
 16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
 17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
 18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
 19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
 20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
 21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
 22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
 23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
 24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
 25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
 26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
 27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
 28 ;
 CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS
 NOARCHIVELOG
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
 SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
 SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
 SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
 SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
 SQL
 
 The confusing thing is that I have instances already
 running on the machine.
 So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown
 the existing instances no
 problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I
 get the results from
 above.
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 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:24 PM
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 When are you getting the error?  During startup?
 
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 Sorry,
 AIX 5L to AIX 5L
 cold backup copies
 create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the
 new file locations
 keeping the SID the same
 
 created init.ora from spfile
 startup nomount pfile=init.ora
 getting  ora-3113
 
 I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out
 here as well.
 
 
 
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 How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a
 similar platform?  Are
 you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?
  RMAN backup or
 restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
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 Just checking to see if anyone has been able to
 clone a 9.2 DB from one
 machine to another.  I have never had a problem
 doing this prior to 9.2,
 and am just wondering if I have overlooked something
 peculiar to 9i.
 Thanks in adavance
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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
How about Life of Brian? That's even better then the Holy Grail.

On 10/28/2003 01:19:25 PM, Thater, William wrote:
 Bellow, Bambi  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
 
  Oddly, I was thinking the same thing about Monty Python and the Holy
  Grail. And then I thought... NAAH.  Grail is the only common
  denominator that I know of that all technical geeks have in common...
  but now that its some obscene number of years old, I've been on a
  quest to find another one... a non-Star Trek one, as Star Trek has so
  many adherents to various generations of it...
  
  Anyone?
 
 dust puppy and the one true ping?
 
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RE: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
AK - Unless you specify otherwise, RMAN will automatically apply archive
logs to bring the database up to the time of failure (your recover database
statement). This is why it is good to run disaster recovery tests on a
regular basis, to ensure everything is ready, and you can try different
recovery times. You will see that RMAN will not complete its recovery if the
archived logs are not available.



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We take daily rman backup each nite at 10pm . Which means in worst case we
risk one day of work.  Now suppose something wrong goes before 10 pm . Then
Can I recover my database till time using previous day rman backup and
currently available archived logs.
 
Or in nutshell is it possible to run { restore databse; recover database }
from rman and then apply remaing archived logs from a separated disk ( not a
rman backup ).
 
Thanks,
-ak
 
 
 

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Re: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
You can restore database and open it to the mount phase using RMAN. 
Then you can get into sqlplus and type something like:

alter system set log_archive_dest_1=/directory/where/log/archives/reside
set autorecovery on
recover database auto until cancel

On 10/28/2003 12:44:24 PM, AK wrote:
 We take daily rman backup each nite at 10pm . Which means in worst case we risk one 
 day of work.  Now suppose something wrong goes before 10 pm . Then Can I recover my 
 database till time using previous day rman backup and currently available archived 
 logs.
 
 Or in nutshell is it possible to run { restore databse; recover database } from rman 
 and then apply remaing archived logs from a separated disk ( not a rman backup ).
 
 Thanks,
 -ak
 
 
 

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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Pete Sharman
Usually when I've seen that it's because of an invalid or missing password
file.  Anything in the alert log to tell you more?

Pete
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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above. -Original Message-
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:24 PM
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2, and
am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i. Thanks in
adavance John

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Re: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread AK
Thanks Dennis  for Reply,
My confusion is , does RMAN sees only those archived logs which are backup
using rman or it can use current archived log as well stored in original
format at other disk ?

-ak


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:49 AM


 AK - Unless you specify otherwise, RMAN will automatically apply archive
 logs to bring the database up to the time of failure (your recover
database
 statement). This is why it is good to run disaster recovery tests on a
 regular basis, to ensure everything is ready, and you can try different
 recovery times. You will see that RMAN will not complete its recovery if
the
 archived logs are not available.



 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:44 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 We take daily rman backup each nite at 10pm . Which means in worst case we
 risk one day of work.  Now suppose something wrong goes before 10 pm .
Then
 Can I recover my database till time using previous day rman backup and
 currently available archived logs.

 Or in nutshell is it possible to run { restore databse; recover database }
 from rman and then apply remaing archived logs from a separated disk ( not
a
 rman backup ).

 Thanks,
 -ak




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RE: Refresh option for Materialized view , want to use it during

2003-10-28 Thread Stephen.Lee

This was my original suggestion.  The only snag I can think of is if you
have a bunch of dependencies like stored procedures and triggers.  Even if
somebody was selecting from the old table when you renamed it, the select
would continue OK ... as long as you don't truncate it.  You could even
delete from the old table without hosing a running select ... as long as the
rollback segment holds up.  You could rename the tables, then truncate maybe
an hour later.

 -Original Message-
 
 Arup,
 
 I really appreciate your answer in great details.  I got on 
 prebuilt table 
 work.  Thanks a lot for your help.  Here is another question:
 
 Do you see any advantage to use materialized view on prebuilt 
 table for my 
 data loading over just simple renaming tables as steps below:
 
 1. create table t that is always accessed by applications
 2. create table t1 that is a temp table for loading
 3. load data into table t1
 4. rename table t to table t2
 5. rename table t1 to t
 6. rename table t2 to t1
 7. truncate table t1 for next day loading
 
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Re: Re: Refresh option for Materialized view , want to use it during refresh - for

2003-10-28 Thread ryan_oracle
materialized views have the create statements in the database. you just have to 
refresh them.

can you refersh a materialized view in parallel? if not than create can be faster... 
 
 From: David Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2003/10/28 Tue PM 12:04:25 EST
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Refresh option for Materialized view , want to use it during refresh - 
 for
 
 Arup,
 
 I really appreciate your answer in great details.  I got on prebuilt table 
 work.  Thanks a lot for your help.  Here is another question:
 
 Do you see any advantage to use materialized view on prebuilt table for my 
 data loading over just simple renaming tables as steps below:
 
 1. create table t that is always accessed by applications
 2. create table t1 that is a temp table for loading
 3. load data into table t1
 4. rename table t to table t2
 5. rename table t1 to t
 6. rename table t2 to t1
 7. truncate table t1 for next day loading
 
 David
 
 
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 refresh - for
 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:04:33 -0800
 
 David,
 
 Answers to your questions:
 
 (1) Without knowing your exact needs, I wil offer a few different 
 scenarios.
 I am assuming that you are doing a complete refresh every time. The
 following pertain to that.
 
 Say, your name of the MV is MV1. Here are the steps the first time.
 
 1. Create table MV1
 2. Create MV MV1 on that table.
 
 When you want to refresh complete:
 
 1. Create table MV1_TEMP. Choose a suitable method: CTAS across dblink 
 (with
 NOLOGGING), SQL*Loader, Direct Load Insert, or simpley exp/imp.
 2. Drop MV MV1. This drops the MV but doesn't drop the table.
 3. Drop table MV1.
 4. Rename table MV1_TEMP to MV1.
 5. Recreate MV MV1.
 6. Allow users to proceed as usual.
 
 Note the time consumed between Steps 2 and 6 are in the order of a few
 seconds. And it's the only time the users will not have access to the MV, 
 as
 opposed to a full refresh using dbms_mview.refresh approach., which will
 lock the MV for the entire duration and generate tons of redo and rollback.
 
 Even if you do a incremental refresh, this is still a better approach. In
 that case, you don't drop the table during the refresh.
 
 (2) Yes, the option is available in 8i, at least in 8.1.7. Make sure the
 syntax is correct.
 
 create materialized view MV1
 on prebuilt table
 refresh fast
 as
 select ... from 
 
 In the article I mentioned, you can find the complete syntax.
 www.proligence.com/downloads.html is the site. It also dscribes a step by
 step solution to the issue and compares the common solution with this new
 one.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Arup Nanda
 
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 refresh - for
 
 
   Hi Arup,
  
   This is a very good method.  I would like to use it to modify some of my
   data loading procedures.  Here are my questions:
   1. Do I need to create the table on the step 1 every time when I refresh
 the
   data If I refresh data once per day?
   2. Is ON PREBUILT TABLE available on Oracle 8i?  When I was trying the
   method on Oracle 8i, I got missing keyword error on PREBUILT.
  
   Dave
  
   
   Siddharth,
   
   I will offer a slightly out-of-the-box solution. Please read it through
   till the end to determine its applicability in your case.
   
   It seems yours refresh interval is once a day and you don't mind stale
   data for a max of 24 hours. You also refresh is complete, not
   incremental. So, I would suggest the follwoing approach.
   
   (1) Create a table first
   CREATE TABLE CT_PRODUCTID_VW
   TABLESPACE 
   NOLOGGING
   AS
   SELECT .
   
   (2) When you are ready to refresh, drop the MV
   DROP MATERIALIZED VIEW CT_PRODUCTID_VW;
   
   (3) Create the MV with the PREBUILT TABLE option.
   CREATE
   MATERIALIZED VIEW CT_PRODUCTID_VW
   BUILD IMMEDIATE
   REFRESH START WITH SYSDATE
   NEXT (SYSDATE + 1)
   ON PREBUILT TABLE
   AS
   SELECT
msi.segment1productid,
   ...
   
   Your MV is not accessible between STEP 2 and STEP3, which is really a
   dictionary update and takes about a second or so. So the outage is
   really 1 second, not 1/2 hr.
   
   A few explanations are in order here.
   
   (1) Creating an MV on a Prebuilt Table does not consume more space. The
   segment that used to be a table simply becomes an MV.
   (2) When you drop the MV, the MV is gone, but the table remains 
 instact.
   (3) The table can be create by any means - export/import, SQL*Loader,
   INSERT APPEND, etc.
   (4) IT places less strain on the system comapred to the MV refresh
   option, simply because the MV refresh truncates the segment and then
   builds it.
   
   I presented a paper to the same effect at IOUG Live 2003. You can
 

RE: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread Ruth Gramolini



As long as you have 
the database in archivelog mode and have a level 0 backup as your starting point 
then you can recover. Make sure that your level 0 includes the 
controlfiles.

HTH,
Ruth

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  ORACLE-LSubject: rman backup
  We take daily rman backup each nite at 10pm . 
  Which means in worst case we risk one day of work. Now suppose something 
  wrong goes before 10 pm . Then Can I recover my database till time using 
  previous day rman backup and currently available archived logs.
  
  Or in nutshell is it possible to run { restore 
  databse; recover database } from rman and then apply remaing archived logs 
  from a separated disk ( not a rman backup ).
  
  Thanks,
  -ak
  
  
  


ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread ryan_oracle
does toad or the oracle instance itself slip in rule hints? We got an ora-600 error 
off of a data dictionary read. i think it has to do with explain plan. 

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [2325084336], [], [], [], [], [], 
[]
Current SQL statement for this session:
select /*+ rule */ bucket_cnt, row_cnt, cache_cnt, null_cnt, timestamp#, sample_size, 
minimum, maximum, distcnt, lowval, hiva
l, density, col#, spare1, spare2, avgcln from hist_head$ where obj#=:1 and intcol#=:2

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Noarchivelog == archivelog

2003-10-28 Thread tamizh
Hi List,

Could someone help me to figure out what is going on here?
I am trying to change db from NOARCHIVELOG -- ARCHIVELOG.


SQL archive log list
Database log mode  No Archive Mode
Automatic archival Enabled
Archive destination/u02/arch
Oldest online log sequence 966
Current log sequence   968

SQL shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

SQL startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
 
Total System Global Area 1409298592 bytes
Fixed Size73888 bytes
Variable Size 374722560 bytes
Database Buffers 102400 bytes
Redo Buffers   10502144 bytes
Database mounted.
 
 
SQL alter database archivelog;
alter database archivelog
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01126: database must be mounted EXCLUSIVE and not open for this operation

Thanks
Sami


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Re: Re: wither Designer documentation?

2003-10-28 Thread ryan_oracle
none of the apps have documentation. not forsm, reports, or discoverer and noone is 
writing updated books on them since they dont sell enough copees.

i dont understand oracle on this one. atleast they can write one and sell the damn 
thing... 
 
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 I have had the same problem.  I have contacted Oracle for a user guide with
 no response as of yet.  I am literally printing off the help pages within
 Designer to address the need.  It sucks
 
 
 
 
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 Where is the Designer 9i documentation?
 
 Not on OTN (http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/designer.html),
 not in download-east
 (http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/A91773_01/ids902dl/index.htm ),
 not in tahiti... (http://tahiti.oracle.com )
 
 Oracle Designer Generation seems to be the only book (Oracle Press).
 
 Oracle Designer Handbook by Pete Koletzke was published in 1998.
 
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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Odland, Brad
Proud?

landing a rock to fakie followed by a fakie 360 in near vertnot bad for
a 41 yo

Nightmare?

Playing a particularly embarrasing gig with a manic dreppressive folk music
ogre, 120 minutes of pure hell in front of an audience. I refused to play
anymore gigs with him.

Do I get the job...??



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I ask things like tell me the thing you've done that you are most
proud of and tell me your nightmare situation and how did you recover
from it

Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of me, I call cab
infront of her.

 
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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Are you sure that init.ora has the same database name as the controlfile?  

Bambi.
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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2, and
am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i. Thanks in
adavance John

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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Jesse, Rich
Ghostbusters?
When someone asks if you're a god, you say 'YES'!
...and the flowers are still standing.
Tell him about the Twinkie, Egon.

Joe vs. The Volcano?
Not a nice place you have here, Joe.
I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?

The Hunt for Red October? 
Be careful what you shoot at, Ryan.  Most things in here
don't react well to bullets.
Next time, Jack, write a [gosh darn] memo.
I said speak your mind, Jack, but geezus.
One ping only.
Come on, Big D, fly!

Princess Bride? 
Have fun storming the castle!
Did I make it clear that your job is at stake?
Do you want me to send you back where you were --
unemployed in Greenland?

Simpsons?
Your manager says for you to shut up.
And the weak and nerdy are admired for their computer
programming ability.  (OK, not a movie)

Young Frankenstein?
Throw the third switch!  Not the THIRD switch!


Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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RE: Noarchivelog == archivelog

2003-10-28 Thread Nelson, Allan
Startup nomount
Alter system enable restricted session;
Alter database mount exclusive;

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Hi List,

Could someone help me to figure out what is going on here?
I am trying to change db from NOARCHIVELOG -- ARCHIVELOG.


SQL archive log list
Database log mode  No Archive Mode
Automatic archival Enabled
Archive destination/u02/arch
Oldest online log sequence 966
Current log sequence   968

SQL shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

SQL startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
 
Total System Global Area 1409298592 bytes
Fixed Size73888 bytes
Variable Size 374722560 bytes
Database Buffers 102400 bytes
Redo Buffers   10502144 bytes
Database mounted.
 
 
SQL alter database archivelog;
alter database archivelog
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01126: database must be mounted EXCLUSIVE and not open for this
operation

Thanks
Sami


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RE: Noarchivelog == archivelog

2003-10-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Sami
   Any possibility you are using RAC or Parallel Server?

Dennis Williams
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Hi List,

Could someone help me to figure out what is going on here?
I am trying to change db from NOARCHIVELOG -- ARCHIVELOG.


SQL archive log list
Database log mode  No Archive Mode
Automatic archival Enabled
Archive destination/u02/arch
Oldest online log sequence 966
Current log sequence   968

SQL shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

SQL startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
 
Total System Global Area 1409298592 bytes
Fixed Size73888 bytes
Variable Size 374722560 bytes
Database Buffers 102400 bytes
Redo Buffers   10502144 bytes
Database mounted.
 
 
SQL alter database archivelog;
alter database archivelog
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01126: database must be mounted EXCLUSIVE and not open for this
operation

Thanks
Sami


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RE: Noarchivelog == archivelog

2003-10-28 Thread Ben
Hi


The database must be mounted and in exclusive mode in order
to turn archiving on.

You need to do a: startup mount exclusive

then: alter database archivelog

then: alter database open

Ben

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Hi List,

Could someone help me to figure out what is going on here?
I am trying to change db from NOARCHIVELOG -- ARCHIVELOG.


SQL archive log list
Database log mode  No Archive Mode
Automatic archival Enabled
Archive destination/u02/arch
Oldest online log sequence 966
Current log sequence   968

SQL shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

SQL startup mount
ORACLE instance started.

Total System Global Area 1409298592 bytes
Fixed Size73888 bytes
Variable Size 374722560 bytes
Database Buffers 102400 bytes
Redo Buffers   10502144 bytes
Database mounted.


SQL alter database archivelog;
alter database archivelog
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01126: database must be mounted EXCLUSIVE and not open for this
operation

Thanks
Sami


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Re: Noarchivelog == archivelog

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala

On 10/28/2003 02:34:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Could someone help me to figure out what is going on here?
 I am trying to change db from NOARCHIVELOG -- ARCHIVELOG.

Let me quote the mighty Oracle:
Database must be mounted EXCLUSIVE and not open for this operation.

Idis redibis nunquam in bello peribis.

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RE: rman backup

2003-10-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
AK
   When you have RMAN back up archived logs, IIRC, in a recovery RMAN first
restores those archived logs to the location that Oracle will expect them to
be, and I believe that is done as part of the RESTORE DATABASE command. In
my situation, I found no advantage from having RMAN store the archive logs,
so I have no experience there, just what I've read in the manual. 
Only RMAN can perform the RESTORE DATABASE command, but once you
complete that command, you can complete the recovery using svrmgrl. From
everything I've seen, RMAN just issues the RECOVER DATABASE command to
svrmgrl or SQL*Plus.

Dennis Williams
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Thanks Dennis  for Reply,
My confusion is , does RMAN sees only those archived logs which are backup
using rman or it can use current archived log as well stored in original
format at other disk ?

-ak


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 AK - Unless you specify otherwise, RMAN will automatically apply archive
 logs to bring the database up to the time of failure (your recover
database
 statement). This is why it is good to run disaster recovery tests on a
 regular basis, to ensure everything is ready, and you can try different
 recovery times. You will see that RMAN will not complete its recovery if
the
 archived logs are not available.



 Dennis Williams
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 Lifetouch, Inc.
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 We take daily rman backup each nite at 10pm . Which means in worst case we
 risk one day of work.  Now suppose something wrong goes before 10 pm .
Then
 Can I recover my database till time using previous day rman backup and
 currently available archived logs.

 Or in nutshell is it possible to run { restore databse; recover database }
 from rman and then apply remaing archived logs from a separated disk ( not
a
 rman backup ).

 Thanks,
 -ak




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Re: ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread John Shaw


TOAD puts a hint in. 
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tuning a co-related query howto

2003-10-28 Thread hrishy
Hi All

Can somebody explain me how to tune this corealted
subquery.how do we convert the co-related subquery
into a inline if that helps


Select distinct PA.PersonAddress_IDX, AT.Name
AddressType,
A.Line1 Address1, A.Line2 Address2, A.City, A.State,
A.County, A.Country, A.PostalCode,
A.AllowPostalSoftYN, PA.ChangedBy,
PA.ChangedDT, PA.DeletedYN ,PA.Person_Key,
PA.Address_Key,
PA.AddressType_Key
FROMPersonAddress_h PA,Address_h A,AddressType_h AT
where   PA.AddressType_Key IN (1,2,3) AND
AT.AddressType_IDX = PA.AddressType_Key
And A.Address_IDX = PA.Address_Key and PA.DeletedYN =
0
and PA.Person_KEY in (SELECT PERSON_KEY FROM
INSURED_h I where I.insured_idx=592374 )
and PA.CHANGEDDT=(select max(CHANGEDDT) from
PersonAddress_h
where PA.PERSON_KEY=Person_key and
AddressType_Key= PA.AddressType_Key
and Address_Key=PA.Address_Key)
and AT.CHANGEDDT=(select max(CHANGEDDT) from
AddressType_h
where AddressType_IDX = PA.AddressType_Key)
and A.CHANGEDDT= (Select max(CHANGEDDT) from
Address_h
where Address_IDX = PA.Address_Key and
(CHANGEDDT-to_date('10/22/2003
18:02:30','mm/dd/ hh24:mi:ss'))=0.001 )

call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse1  0.30   0.30  0
 0  0   0
Execute  1  0.00   0.00  0
 0  0   0
Fetch1 13.46  31.73  27979 
23786 31   0
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total3 13.76  32.04  27979 
23786 31   0




Rows Execution Plan
--- 
---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   SORT (UNIQUE)
  0HASH JOIN
  0 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY INDEX
ROWID) OF 
'ADDRESS_H'
  1  NESTED LOOPS
  0   HASH JOIN
   1100HASH JOIN
550 HASH JOIN
550  TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY
INDEX ROWID) OF 
 'PERSONADDRESS_H'
606   NESTED LOOPS
 55TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY
INDEX ROWID) 
   OF 'INSURED_H'
 55 INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 
   
'INDX_INSURED_H_IDX_EDATE_CDATE' (NON-UNIQUE)
550INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 
   'INDX_PRSNADDR_PRSN_ADDR_H'
(NON-UNIQUE)
  3  VIEW OF 'VW_SQ_2'
  3   SORT (GROUP BY)
  6INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF
'CI_ADDRESSTYPE_H' 
   (NON-UNIQUE)
  6 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL)
OF 
'ADDRESSTYPE_H'
  74421VIEW OF 'VW_SQ_3'
  74421 SORT (GROUP BY)
 462900  TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (FULL)
OF 
 'ADDRESS_H'
  0   INDEX (RANGE SCAN) OF 'CI_ADDRESS_H'
(NON-UNIQUE)
  0 VIEW OF 'VW_SQ_1'
  0  SORT (GROUP BY)
  0   INDEX (FULL SCAN) OF 'INDX_PRSNADDR_ALL'
(NON-UNIQUE)






OVERALL TOTALS FOR ALL NON-RECURSIVE STATEMENTS

call count   cpuelapsed   disk 
querycurrentrows
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
Parse1  0.30   0.30  0
 0  0   0
Execute  2  0.00   0.01  0
 0  0   0
Fetch1 13.46  31.73  27979 
23786 31   0
--- --   -- --
-- --  --
total4 13.76  32.05  27979 
23786 31   0

Misses in library cache during parse: 1
Misses in library cache during execute: 1


regards
Hrishy




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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread John Blake
The alert log statest that the instance is starting NORMAL and that is all
she wrote 
No trace files all my directories exist all owned by oracle UID
The cr_spap script contains all create controlfile commands and yes since
the STARTUP NOMOUNT is failing
the balance is just from the echoed output ..

Basically I think I'm just missing some obscure detail here, as there was
someone in the list confirming that they are performing this on a similar
environment AIX5.1 and ORACLE 9.2
That in mind I have gone through the init.ora checked for directory
existance now researching listener config etc..

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John,

Did you see any messages in the alert log?  And what is in the cr_spap
script?  the startup nomount is failing immediately, so everything else is
worthless.

Review the initspap.ora file and make sure that all of the directories
exist.  Also, is the ORACLE_SID evironmental set prior to running sqlplus?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
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** materialized view fast not working

2003-10-28 Thread A Joshi
Hi,
 I have a table tableA owned by userA.
If I create a materialized view inanother schema/user fast and complete refresh set to refresh every 10 minutesthen onlycomplete refresh works and refreshes automatically every 10 minutes. However the fast refresh mv does not refresh automatically. It refreshes fine if the user executes DBMS_SNAPSHOT.REFRESH procedure. 

If I create a materialized view in the same user fast and complete refresh set to refreshevery 10 minutesboth work fine and refresh automatically every 10 minutes. 

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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
John 
   Check your undo tablespace name in your CREATE CONTROLFILE statement and
your init.ora file. I've received this error because the names are
different. 

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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The alert log statest that the instance is starting NORMAL and that is all
she wrote 
No trace files all my directories exist all owned by oracle UID
The cr_spap script contains all create controlfile commands and yes since
the STARTUP NOMOUNT is failing
the balance is just from the echoed output ..

Basically I think I'm just missing some obscure detail here, as there was
someone in the list confirming that they are performing this on a similar
environment AIX5.1 and ORACLE 9.2
That in mind I have gone through the init.ora checked for directory
existance now researching listener config etc..

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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:33 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


John,

Did you see any messages in the alert log?  And what is in the cr_spap
script?  the startup nomount is failing immediately, so everything else is
worthless.

Review the initspap.ora file and make sure that all of the directories
exist.  Also, is the ORACLE_SID evironmental set prior to running sqlplus?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L






Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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How about some more details?  Are you cloning to a similar platform?  Are
you using a cold backup with controlfile recreation?  RMAN backup or
restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
John

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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Rich Gesler
what is your remote_login_passwordfile   init.ora param set to?
Change it to remote_login_passwordfile = none
and see what happens.

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John Blake
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


The alert log statest that the instance is starting NORMAL and that is all
she wrote 
No trace files all my directories exist all owned by oracle UID
The cr_spap script contains all create controlfile commands and yes since
the STARTUP NOMOUNT is failing
the balance is just from the echoed output ..

Basically I think I'm just missing some obscure detail here, as there was
someone in the list confirming that they are performing this on a similar
environment AIX5.1 and ORACLE 9.2
That in mind I have gone through the init.ora checked for directory
existance now researching listener config etc..

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 12:33 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'


John,

Did you see any messages in the alert log?  And what is in the cr_spap
script?  the startup nomount is failing immediately, so everything else is
worthless.

Review the initspap.ora file and make sure that all of the directories
exist.  Also, is the ORACLE_SID evironmental set prior to running sqlplus?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes03.dbf'
27 CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
28 ;
CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-03114: not connected to ORACLE
SQL -- RECOVER DATABASE
SQL -- ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
SQL -- ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE
'/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/temp01.dbf'
SIZE 3119M REUSE AUTOEXTEND ON NEXT 655360 MAXSIZE ;
SQL

The confusing thing is that I have instances already running on the machine.
So I know the install is ok.  I can start/shutdown the existing instances no
problem.  But when I try to clone and startup --- I get the results from
above.
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When are you getting the error?  During startup?

Adam




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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L






Sorry,
AIX 5L to AIX 5L
cold backup copies
create backup controlfile to trace -- edited for the new file locations
keeping the SID the same

created init.ora from spfile
startup nomount pfile=init.ora
getting  ora-3113

I have a TAR opened and figured I would check out here as well.



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restore?  RMAN duplicate?  ...

Adam




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Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L






Just checking to see if anyone has been able to clone a 9.2 DB from one
machine to another.  I have never had a problem doing this prior to 9.2,
and am just wondering if I have overlooked something peculiar to 9i.
Thanks in adavance
John

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RE: Clone db 9.2 on AIX 5L

2003-10-28 Thread Durinda.Jones
John,

I'm not running AIX 5.1 or Oracle 9.2 (we're 8.1.6 on AIX 4.3.3).  However,
I have had some strange 3113 errors when trying to start a database.  Did
you have a false start and then ran the script again?  The reason being
we've seen problems due to memory segments hanging around after a crash.  I
found this note from our problems.


---
Oracle error:
ORA-03113 Error: End of Communication Channel - This error is caused by
shared memory segments hanging due to the crashing of a database.  This
happened on prd3 and after a lot of research, it was found that doing a ipcs
-ma command will show you all the processes using shared memory.  Look for
the ORACLE processes.  On prd3, there were only 4 of them and each process
ties back to a Oracle table by using the  NATTCH field and grepping for the
table name.  For example, ps -ef | grep prod should give you the number of
attached processes and that can be matched to the NATTCH field in the ipcs
command, therefore that particular table can be associated with that
database. Usually, the NATTCH field contains a 0 (zero), whenever the
segment is hung and no longer associated with the database.  In our case,
the table involved was prod and the segment had a NATTCH field of 0 (zero). 

If you use the ipcrm -m (pid) to remove the hung segment, it will free it
and allow the database to be started again.

EXAMPLE:
  ipcs -am|grep oracle

#  Processes attached to this process   
m  655371 0xba08cf68 --rw-r- oracle dba oracle dba   82  1378840576 8642
67132 
m  12 0x90edba50 --rw-r- oracle dba oracle dba   11  117329920
3896 52348 
m  13 0x6b714a88 --rw-r- oracle dba oracle dba   18  131190784
2712 102820 
m  262158 0xf7ef598c --rw-r- oracle dba oracle dba   21  107368448 11998
134330 

Then do:
  ps -ef|grep SYS|wc -l
  11

  ps -ef|grep AUTO|wc -l   
  18

  ps -ef|grep FAX|wc -l
  22

  ps -ef|grep PROD|wc -l   
  83


to verify that the count matches the counts from the ipcs -am.  The counts
are in the 9th column.   

Have the SA remove the memory segment that doesn't match.  In fact, that one
should have 0 as it's number of processes.


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You do need to do your homework with this, because you could drop a good
database.  But you should be ok if your SA knows what he's doing.  

Don't know if it will help, but thought I'd send it out.

Durinda Jones
Yellow Technologies

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The alert log statest that the instance is starting NORMAL and that is all
she wrote  No trace files all my directories exist all owned by oracle
UID The cr_spap script contains all create controlfile commands and yes
since the STARTUP NOMOUNT is failing the balance is just from the echoed
output ..

Basically I think I'm just missing some obscure detail here, as there was
someone in the list confirming that they are performing this on a similar
environment AIX5.1 and ORACLE 9.2 That in mind I have gone through the
init.ora checked for directory existance now researching listener config
etc..

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John,

Did you see any messages in the alert log?  And what is in the cr_spap
script?  the startup nomount is failing immediately, so everything else is
worthless.

Review the initspap.ora file and make sure that all of the directories
exist.  Also, is the ORACLE_SID evironmental set prior to running sqlplus?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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SQL @cr_spap
SQL STARTUP NOMOUNT
pfile=/iu33/u01/app/oracle/admin/spap/pfile/initspap.ora
ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SQL CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE SPAP RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
2 MAXLOGFILES 50
3 MAXLOGMEMBERS 5
4 MAXDATAFILES 100
5 MAXINSTANCES 1
6 MAXLOGHISTORY 226
7 LOGFILE
8 GROUP 1 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo01.log' SIZE 100M,
9 GROUP 2 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo02.log' SIZE 100M,
10 GROUP 3 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/redo03.log' SIZE 100M
11 DATAFILE
12 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/system01.dbf',
13 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/undotbs01.dbf',
14 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/drsys01.dbf',
15 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/example01.dbf',
16 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/odm01.dbf',
17 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/tools01.dbf',
18 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users01.dbf',
19 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/xdb01.dbf',
20 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users02.dbf',
21 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users03.dbf',
22 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users04.dbf',
23 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/users05.dbf',
24 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes01.dbf',
25 '/iu33/u02/oradata/spap/indexes02.dbf',
26 

Re: ** materialized view fast not working

2003-10-28 Thread Mike Spalinger
Does the user have select access on the mlog?

A Joshi wrote:
Hi,
  I have a table tableA owned by userA.
If I create a materialized view in another schema/user fast and complete 
refresh set to refresh every 10 minutes then only complete refresh works 
and refreshes automatically every 10 minutes. However the fast refresh 
mv does not refresh automatically. It refreshes fine if the user 
executes DBMS_SNAPSHOT.REFRESH procedure.
 
If I create a materialized view in the same user fast and complete 
refresh set to refresh every 10 minutes both work fine and refresh 
automatically every 10 minutes.
 
Can some one help. Thank you

 

 


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RE: Noarchivelog == archivelog

2003-10-28 Thread Goulet, Dick
Well you got a number of responses, but the following have always worked for me:

  shutdown immediate;
Startup mount;
  alter database archivelog;
  alter database open;

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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Hi List,

Could someone help me to figure out what is going on here?
I am trying to change db from NOARCHIVELOG -- ARCHIVELOG.


SQL archive log list
Database log mode  No Archive Mode
Automatic archival Enabled
Archive destination/u02/arch
Oldest online log sequence 966
Current log sequence   968

SQL shutdown
Database closed.
Database dismounted.
ORACLE instance shut down.

SQL startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
 
Total System Global Area 1409298592 bytes
Fixed Size73888 bytes
Variable Size 374722560 bytes
Database Buffers 102400 bytes
Redo Buffers   10502144 bytes
Database mounted.
 
 
SQL alter database archivelog;
alter database archivelog
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01126: database must be mounted EXCLUSIVE and not open for this operation

Thanks
Sami


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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Niall Litchfield
Ah. Some time ago when running a Youth Group, I discovered that there is
only one infallible answer when faced with a 'popular beat music combo,
m'lud' that one has never heard of. This consist of nodding ones head
sagely and saying ' ah yes, but don't you think that they've gone a bit
commercial'. Works every time - even with groups that have only released
1 record that sold 42 copies. Rumour has it even David Bowie fans are
fooled by this particular line. 

Niall 

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 You're likely to get the kind of response my kids would give:
 
Wasn't he with the Beatles or the Stones or some other *old*
 band like that?
 
 Hell, my son considers the Offspring to be over the hill 
 and Linkin Park as starting to lose it...
 
 About 7 years ago, I interviewed someone who listed Phish 
 as one of his interests.  I asked him What is Phish? and 
 then spelled it for him.  The expressions that swept across 
 his face in one second ran from frank astonishment, to 
 disbelief, to pity, to a carefully-composed poker face as he 
 answered, A musical group that I like.
 
 Food for thought:  when I was a kid in the 70s, my father 
 would play his big band records and my brothers and I would 
 roll our eyes and leave the house.  Such lame, ancient music! 
  At the time, those recordings were 30-35 years old...
 
 Um...
 
 For a kid today, the Stones, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Frank 
 Zappa, Yes, and Bowie are far more ancient.  Not just in 
 years, but the years do add up...
 
 ..'scuse me, I think I hear a bottle of Metamucil calling...
 
 
 
 on 10/28/03 4:59 AM, Richard Foote at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Only two questions are required to ensure you get an appropriate 
  person for the job (any job):
  
  1) What do you think of David Bowie, is he brilliant or what ?
  
  and providing they answer the above question positively
  
  2) Are you any good ?
  
  Works every time ;)
  
  Richard
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  Ans: My worst nightmare, my date pick her nose infront of 
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RE: ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread Jesse, Rich
What version of TOAD, Oracle server and Oracle client?  See Metalink article
34779.1 for details on your bug, which may be fixed in releases 8.1.7.3,
9.0.1.2 and 9.2.0.1.

BTW, TOAD can put in hints, but more importantly, it can do some
conversion/translation of your SQL before sending it.  You may want to
checkout the official TOAD list at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/toad

Rich

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 does toad or the oracle instance itself slip in rule hints? 
 We got an ora-600 error off of a data dictionary read. i 
 think it has to do with explain plan. 
 
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], 
 [2325084336], [], [], [], [], [], []
 Current SQL statement for this session:
 select /*+ rule */ bucket_cnt, row_cnt, cache_cnt, null_cnt, 
 timestamp#, sample_size, minimum, maximum, distcnt, lowval, hiva
 l, density, col#, spare1, spare2, avgcln from hist_head$ 
 where obj#=:1 and intcol#=:2
 
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8i Support

2003-10-28 Thread Hamid Alavi
List,

Is any body know when Oracle stop supporting for 8i?

Thanks,

Hamid Alavi

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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
How about Dogma? That's a new movie and it is hillarious.
Salma Hayek character was very impresive.


On 10/28/2003 02:49:32 PM, Jesse, Rich wrote:
 Ghostbusters?
   When someone asks if you're a god, you say 'YES'!
   ...and the flowers are still standing.
   Tell him about the Twinkie, Egon.
 
 Joe vs. The Volcano?
   Not a nice place you have here, Joe.
   I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?
 
 The Hunt for Red October? 
   Be careful what you shoot at, Ryan.  Most things in here
   don't react well to bullets.
   Next time, Jack, write a [gosh darn] memo.
   I said speak your mind, Jack, but geezus.
   One ping only.
   Come on, Big D, fly!
 
 Princess Bride? 
   Have fun storming the castle!
   Did I make it clear that your job is at stake?
   Do you want me to send you back where you were --
   unemployed in Greenland?
 
 Simpsons?
   Your manager says for you to shut up.
   And the weak and nerdy are admired for their computer
   programming ability.  (OK, not a movie)
 
 Young Frankenstein?
   Throw the third switch!  Not the THIRD switch!
 
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
 
 
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  How about Life of Brian? That's even better then the Holy Grail.
  
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Re: ** materialized view fast not working

2003-10-28 Thread A Joshi
Mike : Yes the user has select access and is able to do a select on the MLOG table and the original table. Thanks for your help.Mike Spalinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the user have select access on the mlog?A Joshi wrote: Hi, I have a table tableA owned by userA. If I create a materialized view in another schema/user fast and complete  refresh set to refresh every 10 minutes then only complete refresh works  and refreshes automatically every 10 minutes. However the fast refresh  mv does not refresh automatically. It refreshes fine if the user  executes DBMS_SNAPSHOT.REFRESH procedure.  If I create a materialized view in the same user fast and complete  refresh set to refresh every 10 minutes both work fine and refresh  automatically every 10 minutes.  Can some one help. Thank you   Do you Yahoo!!
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Re: 8i Support

2003-10-28 Thread Gene Sais


General 
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RE: Re: ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread Odland, Brad
The data dictionary should not have any statistics on them and thus will use
rule as a rule so to speak.

If you have run stats on the data dictionary you coul dbe running into some
odd bugs.


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does the data dictionary still use rule by support? any idea why toad would
bother slipping it in? 
 
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 Date: 2003/10/28 Tue PM 02:59:25 EST
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ora-600 question
 
 TOAD puts a hint in. 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2003 1:29:25 PM 
 does toad or the oracle instance itself slip in rule hints? We got an
ora-600 error off of a data dictionary read. i think it has to do with
explain plan. 
 
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [2325084336], [], [],
[], [], [], []
 Current SQL statement for this session:
 select /*+ rule */ bucket_cnt, row_cnt, cache_cnt, null_cnt, timestamp#,
sample_size, minimum, maximum, distcnt, lowval, hiva
 l, density, col#, spare1, spare2, avgcln from hist_head$ where obj#=:1 and
intcol#=:2
 
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Re: Re: ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread John Shaw


By default it's set to 
'choose' - but if try to use it for looking at locks (or most any ddl) it will 
take forever to come back -you have to go to the options menu and pick 
'rule' for optimzer modeon ddl queries. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2003 2:49:29 PM 
does the data dictionary still use rule by support? any idea why toad would 
bother slipping it in?   From: "John Shaw" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/28 Tue PM 02:59:25 
EST To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ora-600 question 
 TOAD puts a hint in.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
10/28/2003 1:29:25 PM  does toad or the oracle instance 
itself slip in rule hints? We got an ora-600 error off of a data dictionary 
read. i think it has to do with explain plan.   ORA-00600: 
internal error code, arguments: [17182], [2325084336], [], [], [], [], [], 
[] Current SQL statement for this session: select /*+ rule */ 
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Re: Solved - RE: UTL_RAW and slowness

2003-10-28 Thread Vladimir Begun
Raj

I'm in :), so let's check what was the real issue, some more items
here...
Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
Thanks Vladimir ... your input has made me look at my code again ... 

Here is relevant portion of profsum.sql output ...
profsum

Lines taking more than 1% of the total time, each run separate
RUNID   HSECSPCT OWNER   UNIT_NAME LINE# TEXT
- --- -- --- --   -- -
3  809.03   86.3 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ246 ntcpchar := ASCII(SUBSTR 
(msg_text, i,1));
3   69.297.4 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ256 COMMIT;
3   13.621.5 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ248 nenctcpchar := 
TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
3   10.131.1 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ247 r_chr := 
utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
=
=

Most popular lines (more than 1%), summarize across all runs
  HSECSPCT UNIT_OWNER  UNIT_NAME LINE# TEXT
--- -- ---  -- -
 809.03   86.3 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ246 ntcpchar := ASCII(SUBSTR (msg_text, 
i,1));
  69.297.4 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ256 COMMIT;
  13.621.5 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ248 nenctcpchar := 
TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
  10.131.1 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ247 r_chr = 
utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
/profsum
This shows that substr must have been the culprit ... 
I think, the profile *does not* show that. Moreover I'm not quite sure
that the cause of the delays was SUBSTR(), but I would like to clarify
some points here.
Could you guess what's the difference between these two lines of code?

  l_n := ASCII(SUBSTR(l_s, j, 1));

  l_n := ASCII(SUBSTR(l_s, j, 1));

That's ok if you could not. Nobody could. Because nobody knows that are
the datatypes of l_n and l_s. And there is *significant* difference between
datatypes in PL/SQL. Am I right assuming that msg_text could be CLOB and
l_n could be NUMBER? Could it be like that? I think so. Could you please
tell me what those datatypes are/were?
BTW, why do you think it *was* OK to use SUBSTR() but not SUBSTRB() -- sure,
you know the requirements better -- do you tranfer only US ASCII data?
BTW I benchmarked your code, extended the strings to 2000 characters and ran each
conversion in a loop of 2000 and using utl_raw method turned out to be the fastest.
As I mentioned -- do it in 'bulk' if it's acceptable from security
point.
thanks again for your insight and sample code ... I never knew nor noticed other 
utl_raw
subprograms like utl_raw.copies ...
I would suggest to increase the length of the key at least up to 128 bytes.

Now due to pipelining my code is very fast and to accomodate a 122 baud feed, I have
insert artificial delays in my code. 8:)
What's the point to pipeline it?

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Re: Re: ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread ryan_oracle
does the data dictionary still use rule by support? any idea why toad would bother 
slipping it in? 
 
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 TOAD puts a hint in. 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2003 1:29:25 PM 
 does toad or the oracle instance itself slip in rule hints? We got an ora-600 error 
 off of a data dictionary read. i think it has to do with explain plan. 
 
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [2325084336], [], [], [], [], 
 [], []
 Current SQL statement for this session:
 select /*+ rule */ bucket_cnt, row_cnt, cache_cnt, null_cnt, timestamp#, 
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Foreign Key and Unique key on same columns

2003-10-28 Thread Muqthar Ahmed
Hi,

Is there any performance problem if two columns have FOREIGN KEY from different tables 
and both columns also have UNIQUE CONSTRAINT?

CREATE TABLE table1 (
COL1NUMBER constraint table1_fk1 references table2(col1),
COL2NUMBER constraint table1_fk2 references table3(col1));

CREATE UNIQUE INDEX table1_uq1 ON table1(COL1, COL2);

Thanks
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RE: Re: wither Designer documentation?

2003-10-28 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Well then eventually no one will know how to use their products and move to
other products that come with documentation sets.

: )

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none of the apps have documentation. not forsm, reports, or discoverer and
noone is writing updated books on them since they dont sell enough copees.

i dont understand oracle on this one. atleast they can write one and sell
the damn thing... 
 
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 I have had the same problem.  I have contacted Oracle for a user guide
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 no response as of yet.  I am literally printing off the help pages within
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 Oracle Designer Handbook by Pete Koletzke was published in 1998.
 
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Re: Refresh option for Materialized view , want to use it during refresh - for

2003-10-28 Thread Arup Nanda
David,

Glad to be of help.

Looking at your list of steps, I see that your questions is whether building
an MV on the table T is beneficial. Tables and MVs, on prebuilt table or
not, are stored as segments in the database; so space-sise there is no
difference, nor there is any change in the way the MV/Table is accessed.

There are a few situations where you may want to convert a table to MV. They
are:

* Building an MV enables Query Rewrite, where Oracle smartly decides to
rewrite a user query to select from the MV instead of the main tables. This
is not possible on a regular table. The user must explicitly select from it.

* If you want to refresh FAST, then MVs are required. You can do a fast
refresh on a table, but you have to write your own procedures for that.
DBMS_MVIEW package does it for you on MVs.

* Your designer software will recognize MV as one and will report it to all
users, who are aware of the fact that it's an MV, useful for queries. A mere
table will not be clear on that regard.

Converting a table to MV does not cost any resource, as the change is done
inside the data dictionary only. So, if you are in doubt, you may just
convert the table to MV anyway.

HTH.

Arup Nanda

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refresh - for


 Arup,

 I really appreciate your answer in great details.  I got on prebuilt
table
 work.  Thanks a lot for your help.  Here is another question:

 Do you see any advantage to use materialized view on prebuilt table for my
 data loading over just simple renaming tables as steps below:

 1. create table t that is always accessed by applications
 2. create table t1 that is a temp table for loading
 3. load data into table t1
 4. rename table t to table t2
 5. rename table t1 to t
 6. rename table t2 to t1
 7. truncate table t1 for next day loading

 David


 From: Arup Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Refresh option for Materialized view , want to use it during
 refresh - for
 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:04:33 -0800
 
 David,
 
 Answers to your questions:
 
 (1) Without knowing your exact needs, I wil offer a few different
 scenarios.
 I am assuming that you are doing a complete refresh every time. The
 following pertain to that.
 
 Say, your name of the MV is MV1. Here are the steps the first time.
 
 1. Create table MV1
 2. Create MV MV1 on that table.
 
 When you want to refresh complete:
 
 1. Create table MV1_TEMP. Choose a suitable method: CTAS across dblink
 (with
 NOLOGGING), SQL*Loader, Direct Load Insert, or simpley exp/imp.
 2. Drop MV MV1. This drops the MV but doesn't drop the table.
 3. Drop table MV1.
 4. Rename table MV1_TEMP to MV1.
 5. Recreate MV MV1.
 6. Allow users to proceed as usual.
 
 Note the time consumed between Steps 2 and 6 are in the order of a few
 seconds. And it's the only time the users will not have access to the MV,
 as
 opposed to a full refresh using dbms_mview.refresh approach., which will
 lock the MV for the entire duration and generate tons of redo and
rollback.
 
 Even if you do a incremental refresh, this is still a better approach. In
 that case, you don't drop the table during the refresh.
 
 (2) Yes, the option is available in 8i, at least in 8.1.7. Make sure the
 syntax is correct.
 
 create materialized view MV1
 on prebuilt table
 refresh fast
 as
 select ... from 
 
 In the article I mentioned, you can find the complete syntax.
 www.proligence.com/downloads.html is the site. It also dscribes a step by
 step solution to the issue and compares the common solution with this new
 one.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Arup Nanda
 
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 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 12:34 PM
 refresh - for
 
 
   Hi Arup,
  
   This is a very good method.  I would like to use it to modify some of
my
   data loading procedures.  Here are my questions:
   1. Do I need to create the table on the step 1 every time when I
refresh
 the
   data If I refresh data once per day?
   2. Is ON PREBUILT TABLE available on Oracle 8i?  When I was trying
the
   method on Oracle 8i, I got missing keyword error on PREBUILT.
  
   Dave
  
   
   Siddharth,
   
   I will offer a slightly out-of-the-box solution. Please read it
through
   till the end to determine its applicability in your case.
   
   It seems yours refresh interval is once a day and you don't mind
stale
   data for a max of 24 hours. You also refresh is complete, not
   incremental. So, I would suggest the follwoing approach.
   
   (1) Create a table first
   CREATE TABLE CT_PRODUCTID_VW
   TABLESPACE 
   NOLOGGING
   AS
   SELECT .
   
   (2) When you are ready to refresh, drop the MV
   DROP MATERIALIZED VIEW CT_PRODUCTID_VW;
   
   (3) Create the MV with the PREBUILT TABLE option.
   CREATE
   MATERIALIZED VIEW 

RE: Solved - RE: UTL_RAW and slowness

2003-10-28 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Why do you think the profsum output is not right? at least it tells me that 83% of my 
time is spent on the line that does substr() ... right?

msg_text is a clob, l_n is number you are right  substr() was used because we 
transfer only US ASCII data.

The point of pipelining was because in my previous version of code, I was experiencing 
delays due to (or may be due to) substr() operation ... There is no other easy way to 
split the CLOB and process it. I am comfortable with pipelining, I know it will work 
in this scenario so I used it, it worked.

Got better ideas? BTW I on a second (9600 baud) feed I was feeding plain_text using 
utl_tcp.write_text and my colleagues were experiencing slight delays on the monitor 
even when I was sending 32k characters. So, I tested with sending 8k characters, 
convert to raw and use utl_tcp.write_raw, my colleagues are happy, they don't want to 
change it now.

Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it.
Raj

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Raj

I'm in :), so let's check what was the real issue, some more items
here...

Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
 Thanks Vladimir ... your input has made me look at my code again ... 
 
 Here is relevant portion of profsum.sql output ...
 profsum
 
 Lines taking more than 1% of the total time, each run separate
 
 RUNID   HSECSPCT OWNER   UNIT_NAME LINE# TEXT
 - --- -- --- --   -- -
 3  809.03   86.3 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ246 ntcpchar := ASCII(SUBSTR 
 (msg_text, i,1));
 3   69.297.4 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ256 COMMIT;
 3   13.621.5 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ248 nenctcpchar := 
 TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
 3   10.131.1 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ247 r_chr := 
 utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
 =
 =
 
 Most popular lines (more than 1%), summarize across all runs
 
   HSECSPCT UNIT_OWNER  UNIT_NAME LINE# TEXT
 --- -- ---  -- -
  809.03   86.3 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ246 ntcpchar := ASCII(SUBSTR 
 (msg_text, i,1));
   69.297.4 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ256 COMMIT;
   13.621.5 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ248 nenctcpchar := 
 TO_NUMBER(utl_raw.bit_xor(r_chr,r_key),'');
   10.131.1 ST_DVDB2STWRITER_PKG_RAJ247 r_chr = 
 utl_raw.cast_to_raw(CHR(ntcpchar));
 /profsum
 
 This shows that substr must have been the culprit ... 

I think, the profile *does not* show that. Moreover I'm not quite sure
that the cause of the delays was SUBSTR(), but I would like to clarify
some points here.

Could you guess what's the difference between these two lines of code?

   l_n := ASCII(SUBSTR(l_s, j, 1));

   l_n := ASCII(SUBSTR(l_s, j, 1));

That's ok if you could not. Nobody could. Because nobody knows that are
the datatypes of l_n and l_s. And there is *significant* difference between
datatypes in PL/SQL. Am I right assuming that msg_text could be CLOB and
l_n could be NUMBER? Could it be like that? I think so. Could you please
tell me what those datatypes are/were?

BTW, why do you think it *was* OK to use SUBSTR() but not SUBSTRB() -- sure,
you know the requirements better -- do you tranfer only US ASCII data?

 BTW I benchmarked your code, extended the strings to 2000 characters and ran each
 conversion in a loop of 2000 and using utl_raw method turned out to be the fastest.

As I mentioned -- do it in 'bulk' if it's acceptable from security
point.

 thanks again for your insight and sample code ... I never knew nor noticed other 
 utl_raw
 subprograms like utl_raw.copies ...

I would suggest to increase the length of the key at least up to 128 bytes.

 Now due to pipelining my code is very fast and to accomodate a 122 baud feed, I have
 insert artificial delays in my code. 8:)

What's the point to pipeline it?

Appreciate your feedback.
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Re: Re: wither Designer documentation?

2003-10-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
Documentation writing will likely be outsourced to Elbonia. So, wait until
the little bearded men who live in the swamp write your documentation and 
everything will be OK. I bet you will not be satisfied even then. You'll 
make unreasonable requests and demand that documentation is actually meaningful.

On 10/28/2003 02:59:38 PM, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
 Well then eventually no one will know how to use their products and move to
 other products that come with documentation sets.
 
 : )
 
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 noone is writing updated books on them since they dont sell enough copees.
 
 i dont understand oracle on this one. atleast they can write one and sell
 the damn thing... 
  
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  I have had the same problem.  I have contacted Oracle for a user guide
 with
  no response as of yet.  I am literally printing off the help pages within
  Designer to address the need.  It sucks
  
  
  
  
 10/28/2003 10:14 AM PST
  
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  Where is the Designer 9i documentation?
  
  Not on OTN (http://otn.oracle.com/documentation/designer.html),
  not in download-east
  (http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/A91773_01/ids902dl/index.htm ),
  not in tahiti... (http://tahiti.oracle.com )
  
  Oracle Designer Generation seems to be the only book (Oracle Press).
  
  Oracle Designer Handbook by Pete Koletzke was published in 1998.
  
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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Tim Gorman
Bumper sticker sighted just the other day:

  My karma ran over your dogma


 How about Dogma? That's a new movie and it is
 hillarious. Salma Hayek character was very impresive.
 
 
 On 10/28/2003 02:49:32 PM, Jesse, Rich wrote:
  Ghostbusters?
  When someone asks if you're a god, you say 'YES'!
  ...and the flowers are still standing.
  Tell him about the Twinkie, Egon.
  
  Joe vs. The Volcano?
  Not a nice place you have here, Joe.
  I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?
  
  The Hunt for Red October? 
  Be careful what you shoot at, Ryan.  Most things in
  here don't react well to bullets.
  Next time, Jack, write a [gosh darn] memo.
  I said speak your mind, Jack, but geezus.
  One ping only.
  Come on, Big D, fly!
  
  Princess Bride? 
  Have fun storming the castle!
  Did I make it clear that your job is at stake?
  Do you want me to send you back where you were --
  unemployed in Greenland?
  
  Simpsons?
  Your manager says for you to shut up.
  And the weak and nerdy are admired for their
  computer programming ability.  (OK, not a
  movie) 
  Young Frankenstein?
  Throw the third switch!  Not the THIRD switch!
  
  
  Rich Jesse   System/Database
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   How about Life of Brian? That's even better then the
   Holy Grail. 
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RE: MSSQL Link Server connection failure to Oracle 817

2003-10-28 Thread Grant Allen
 -Original Message-
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 Subject: MSSQL Link Server connection failure to Oracle 817
 
 
 Hello,
 
 To my surprise I see there alot of us on this list, use MSSQL 
 and Oracle in the same environment.

Guilty.  (I promise I won't mention DB2 as well)

 So please forgive me for asking this but it is a huge issue 
 here at my work.
 The problem is like this, we have a MSSQL 2000 box connecting 
 to Oracle 817, via Linked servers using OLEDB. The jobs will run fine for 
 awhile, but then suddenly fail with the following error
 
 Executed as user: TFMC\Administrator. OLE DB provider 
 'MSDASQL' reported an error. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 7399)  Driver's 
 SQLSetConnectAttr failed]
 [SQLSTATE 01000] (Error 7312)  OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB 
 Provider 'MSDASQL' IDBInitialize::Initialize returned 0x80004005:   ]. [SQLSTATE 
 01000] (Error 7300).  The step failed.
 
 OK, this is specifically the MS driver being used here, but 
 when Oracle drivers are used, we have the same issues.
 Both Databases are on HP/Compaq servers, and the Windows 2000 
 platform. I have loaded the newest patches for OLEDB on the MSSQL for the Oracle
 Client, but nothing helps.
 
 Has anyone experienced this issue before?

Denham,

From my experience, you're in for a torrid time.  The 0x80004005 error is returned 
from the Win32 load library call (can't remember the exact method name, but basically 
it's the standard load this DLL call).  0x80004005 means ... wait for it ... 
FAILED.  That's it.  That's all MS wrote for this error.

As you can see from your error dump, the ::Initialize method was being called, which 
implicitly loads the provider (and thus the DLL).

The other thing I notice from your error is that you are NOT using the MS or Oracle 
native providers.  You are using the OLEDB to ODBC bridge (MSDASQL ... instead of 
MSDAORA or OraOLEDB).  This is a dog's breakfast.  Try changing to whichever of the 
other two you haven't tried, and see if the error persists.

Ciao
Fuzzy
:-)

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9I RAC corporate standard.

2003-10-28 Thread Spears, Brian

 Hi,  Has anyone started to implement 9I Rac as a corporate standard... IE. many or 
all the apps being deployed on 9I RAC clusters?

 We are looking at doing it and wanted to know what other people had as experience in 
doing it or on the  way to attempting it.

 If so, what hardware platform are you using? HP Itanium or Linux boxes etc?


Thanks for sharing experience...

B / R / I / A / N  

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RE: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Grant Allen
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 How about Life of Brian? That's even better then the Holy Grail.

You're right, Mladen ... because we're all individuals.

Ciao
Fuzzy
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RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-28 Thread Grant Allen
Title: RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?



Oracle 
confirmed at the road show event I went to yesterday that "pricing will not 
change". Let's see how many people are happy to buy 100's of EE CPU 
licences :-)

And my 
favourite bit? The new OEM is all singing, all dancing ... but must be 
hosted by 10gAS. (Though that's probably the case with EM under 9i .. 
just don't use it often enough to know).

Ciao
Fuzzy
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  think so with their per CPU pricing. 
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Re: dba interview questions

2003-10-28 Thread Govindan K


Better still, sometimes 'X' takes the questions while 'Y' the candidate just stands next to him
because 'X'  can answer but Y does not.  

Tel.int means you (most probably) have not seen the guys face..correct??

By the time Visa gets approved (if overseas candidate), 'Y' ensures that he 'gains' some experience.

GovindanK

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Oh! Well. I have not seen Tom's book yet. 
But still, when the candidate is explaining this stuff to you, there are plenty of opps to
question him/her to find out if he/she really knows fundamental things..
During one phone interview, we could clearly hear the paper shuffle in the background, while the
candidate asked us to repeat the question (a couple of times) to 'make sure' he understood it
correctly before answering (reading?)it :) 
We stopped phone interview process after this!! 

- Kirti

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> 
> there is a new ault book out on interview questions. I dont think they are very tough. I think
> situational questions are better. Have a development DB set up with things for the applicant to
> do. 
> 
> I find that most employers ask the same easy questions. Particularly developer questions 
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Re: Re: ora-600 question

2003-10-28 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

Just for the record, in 9.2 some views such dba_extents use ordered and
use_nl hints, which force usage of CBO.
If you don't have statistics calculated nor optimizer_dynamic_sampling set
to at least 2, then you'll be using CBO with default statistics, which
usually are quite misleading.

Tanel.

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 The data dictionary should not have any statistics on them and thus will
use
 rule as a rule so to speak.

 If you have run stats on the data dictionary you coul dbe running into
some
 odd bugs.


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 does the data dictionary still use rule by support? any idea why toad
would
 bother slipping it in?
 
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  TOAD puts a hint in.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/2003 1:29:25 PM 
  does toad or the oracle instance itself slip in rule hints? We got an
 ora-600 error off of a data dictionary read. i think it has to do with
 explain plan.
 
  ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [2325084336], [],
[],
 [], [], [], []
  Current SQL statement for this session:
  select /*+ rule */ bucket_cnt, row_cnt, cache_cnt, null_cnt, timestamp#,
 sample_size, minimum, maximum, distcnt, lowval, hiva
  l, density, col#, spare1, spare2, avgcln from hist_head$ where obj#=:1
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