RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
Yes, left brain connect to the right part of your body right brain connect to the left part of your body When you do DB design your using more of your right brain. When you have SQL syntax error you use your left brain more. -Original Message-From: A Joshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 29 August 2003 01:30To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke I vaguely remember hearing : * right handed people use left side of brain * that left handed people use right side of brain Correct??? I think right or left just use it. I mean use something. "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm... So you're saying that women aren't in their right mind? Takingit to the off topic list.-Original Message-Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LHi,This is my own theory, you can't find this information from OracleDocument.Well... talking about women and men.I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain and mostmen use their right brain more than left brain.Function of left brain - remember things, - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2a day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love)- person names- history - words (perhaps this is the reason why women like to readnovels)Function of right brain- response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reasonwh! y so many 2 minute men in the world- everything in general (see thing in big picture)- person faces- math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X- picturesWell Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use yourleft brain when talk to women, then she is yours.RF tell me if I am wrongPS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. :)Sinardy-Original Message-Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LWomen are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things frompast which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially duringfights...:)Tanel.- Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM> Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are > much better "generalists" ! than men, but that men are much better > specialists. Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but> once we men get into the University level and pick our speciality, we > kick butt.>> My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overallthings> than I was>> RF>>> -Original Message-> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM>> c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :)>> (yes, sexist, I know)>>> --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing> > such virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women > > just don't> > waste their time on stuff like this.> >> > Tanel.> > - Original Message -> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM> >> >> > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects...> > >> > >> > >> > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > >> > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this.> > > >> > > > Tanel.> > > >> > > > - Original Message -> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come:> > > >>> > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP ! In Sobig Probe> > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the> > person> > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Dick Goulet> > > >> Senior Oracle DBA> > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA> >
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
Why don't you get an upgrade to Brain 2003, they have promotion this week free goodie bags for first 30 patients. -Original Message-From: A Joshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 29 August 2003 06:35To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke sorry -- I do not read novels, do not respond visually to things, do not do math, do not rememberfaces, do not see details AND do not see the big picture i do eat and sleep a lot. so either I am more lowly evolved or i need a refund or brain transform from those with more of it (someone out there has ma brain) or i need to sue the doctor who said i have brains even showed me a ugly b/w pic of it. Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sorry -- I read novels, respond visually to things, do math, rememberfaces but not names, see details AND the big pictureso either I am more highly evolved and use both sides of my brain (nothardly) or the theory needs some modification--- Sinardy Xing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hi,> > This is my own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle> Document.> > Well... talking about women and men.> I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain> and most men use their right brain more than left brain.> > Function of left brain > - remember things, > - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a> day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love)> - person names> - history > - words ! (perhaps this is the reason why women like to read novels)> > Function of right brain> - response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason why> so many 2 minute men in the world> - everything in general (see thing in big picture)> - person faces> - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X> - pictures> > Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use your> left brain when talk to women, then she is yours.> > RF tell me if I am wrong> > > PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town.> :)> > > Sinardy> > > > > -Original Message-> Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > > Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things> from> past which you've already forgotten long! time ago. Especially during> fights...> :)> > Tanel.> > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM> > > > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are> much> > better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better> specialists.> > Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we> men get> > into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt.> >> > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering> overall> things> > than I was> >> > RF> >> >> > -Original Message-> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM> >> > c'mon.! .. any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man> :)> >> > (yes, sexist, I know)> >> >> > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of> writing> > > such> > > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just> > > don't> > > waste their time on stuff like this.> > >> > > Tanel.> > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM> > >> > >> > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this.> > > > >> > > > > Tanel.> > > > >> > > > > - Original Message -> > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday,
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
sorry -- I do not read novels, do not respond visually to things, do not do math, do not rememberfaces, do not see details AND do not see the big picture i do eat and sleep a lot. so either I am more lowly evolved or i need a refund or brain transform from those with more of it (someone out there has ma brain) or i need to sue the doctor who said i have brains even showed me a ugly b/w pic of it. Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: sorry -- I read novels, respond visually to things, do math, rememberfaces but not names, see details AND the big pictureso either I am more highly evolved and use both sides of my brain (nothardly) or the theory needs some modification--- Sinardy Xing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> Hi,> > This is my own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle> Document.> > Well... talking about women and men.> I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain> and most men use their right brain more than left brain.> > Function of left brain > - remember things, > - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a> day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love)> - person names> - history > - words ! (perhaps this is the reason why women like to read novels)> > Function of right brain> - response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason why> so many 2 minute men in the world> - everything in general (see thing in big picture)> - person faces> - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X> - pictures> > Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use your> left brain when talk to women, then she is yours.> > RF tell me if I am wrong> > > PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town.> :)> > > Sinardy> > > > > -Original Message-> Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > > Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things> from> past which you've already forgotten long! time ago. Especially during> fights...> :)> > Tanel.> > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM> > > > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are> much> > better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better> specialists.> > Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we> men get> > into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt.> >> > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering> overall> things> > than I was> >> > RF> >> >> > -Original Message-> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM> >> > c'mon.! .. any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man> :)> >> > (yes, sexist, I know)> >> >> > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of> writing> > > such> > > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just> > > don't> > > waste their time on stuff like this.> > >> > > Tanel.> > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM> > >> > >> > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects...> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > >> > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this.> > > > >> > > > > Tanel.> > > > >> > > > > - Original Message -> > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come:> > > > >>> > > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe> > > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the> > > person> > > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts.> > > > >>> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091&g! t; > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> Dick Goulet> > > > >> Senior Oracle DBA> > > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA> > > > >> -- > > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net> > > > >> -- > > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick> > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>> > > > >> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051> > > http://www.fatcity.com> > > > >> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting> > > services> > > > >>> > >> -> > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail&g! t; > > message> > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru')> and> > > in> > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L> > > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). > You> > > may> > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like> > > subscribing).> > > > >>> > > >> > > > -- > > > > Please see the
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
That's true--each hemisphere of the brain handles I/O for the opposite side of the body. If I remember my neuropsych classes correctly, even the optic nerves from each eye cross over... Roy Pardee Programmer/Analyst/DBA SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT Extension 8487 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I vaguely remember hearing : * right handed people use left side of brain * that left handed people use right side of brain Correct??? I think right or left just use it. I mean use something. "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm... So you're saying that women aren't in their right mind? Taking it to the off topic list. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, This is my own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle Document. Well... talking about women and men. I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain and most men use their right brain more than left brain. Function of left brain - remember things, - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love) - person names - history - words (perhaps this is the reason why women like to read novels) Function of right brain - response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason wh! y so many 2 minute men in the world - everything in general (see thing in big picture) - person faces - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X - pictures Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use your left brain when talk to women, then she is yours. RF tell me if I am wrong PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. :) Sinardy -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things from past which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially during fights... :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are > much better "generalists" ! than men, but that men are much better > specialists. Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but > once we men get into the University level and pick our speciality, we > kick butt. > > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overall things > than I was > > RF > > > -Original Message- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM > > c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) > > (yes, sexist, I know) > > > --- Tanel Poder wrote: > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > > such virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women > > just don't > > waste their time on stuff like this. > > > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > > >> > > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP ! In Sobig Probe > > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > > person > > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dick Goulet > > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > >> -- > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > >> -- > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > >> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > &g! t; > >> > > > > - > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > message > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > > > >> and > > in > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or > > > >> the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > > may > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Tim Gorman > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fa
RE: Hey Jared!!
Hey, I got a couple emails saying I'm sending the worm to people I never heard of. Does that make me as famous as Jared?? I guess not. Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, Well if you REALLY want to know how I feel about these types of idiots, I'd much prefer them to be publicly hanged, drawn & quartered. Webcasting it would be very appriopriate too. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You're MUCH too merciful! We should start by infecting him or her with worms and viruses of the biologic type. :-) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). --
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
I vaguely remember hearing : * right handed people use left side of brain * that left handed people use right side of brain Correct??? I think right or left just use it. I mean use something. "Orr, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm... So you're saying that women aren't in their right mind? Takingit to the off topic list.-Original Message-Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LHi,This is my own theory, you can't find this information from OracleDocument.Well... talking about women and men.I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain and mostmen use their right brain more than left brain.Function of left brain - remember things, - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2a day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love)- person names- history - words (perhaps this is the reason why women like to readnovels)Function of right brain- response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reasonwh! y so many 2 minute men in the world- everything in general (see thing in big picture)- person faces- math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X- picturesWell Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use yourleft brain when talk to women, then she is yours.RF tell me if I am wrongPS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. :)Sinardy-Original Message-Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LWomen are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things frompast which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially duringfights...:)Tanel.- Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM> Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are > much better "generalists" ! than men, but that men are much better > specialists. Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but> once we men get into the University level and pick our speciality, we > kick butt.>> My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overallthings> than I was>> RF>>> -Original Message-> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM>> c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :)>> (yes, sexist, I know)>>> --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing> > such virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women > > just don't> > waste their time on stuff like this.> >> > Tanel.> > - Original Message -> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM> >> >> > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects...> > >> > >> > >> > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > >> > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this.> > > >> > > > Tanel.> > > >> > > > - Original Message -> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come:> > > >>> > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP ! In Sobig Probe> > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the> > person> > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Dick Goulet> > > >> Senior Oracle DBA> > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA> > > >> --> > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net> > > >> -- > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick> > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>> > > >> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051> > http://www.fatcity.com> > > >> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting> > services> &g! t; > >>> > > > -> > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail> > message> > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > > > >> and> > in> > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or> > > >> the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You> > may> > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like> > subscribing).> > > >>> > >> > > --> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net> > > -- > > > Author: Tim Gorman> > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051http://www.fatcity.com> > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting> > services> > >> > > > -> > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message> > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > > > in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or> > > the name of mailing list
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
Hmmm... So you're saying that women aren't in their right mind? Taking it to the off topic list. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, This is my own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle Document. Well... talking about women and men. I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain and most men use their right brain more than left brain. Function of left brain - remember things, - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love) - person names - history - words (perhaps this is the reason why women like to read novels) Function of right brain - response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason why so many 2 minute men in the world - everything in general (see thing in big picture) - person faces - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X - pictures Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use your left brain when talk to women, then she is yours. RF tell me if I am wrong PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. :) Sinardy -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things from past which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially during fights... :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are > much better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better > specialists. Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but > once we men get into the University level and pick our speciality, we > kick butt. > > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overall things > than I was > > RF > > > -Original Message- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM > > c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) > > (yes, sexist, I know) > > > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > > such virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women > > just don't > > waste their time on stuff like this. > > > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > > >> > > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > > person > > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dick Goulet > > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > >> -- > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > >> -- > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > >> > > > > - > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > message > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > > > >> and > > in > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or > > > >> the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > > may > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Tim Gorman > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > > > > > - > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > > > in the message BODY, include a line containing:
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > sorry -- I read novels, respond visually to things, do math, remember > faces but not names, see details AND the big picture > > so either I am more highly evolved and use both sides of my brain (not > hardly) or the theory needs some modification i'm going for you being a more highly evolved life form meself.;-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA BAARF Party member #25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless Americans come to realize that they are not stronger in the world because they have the bomb but weaker because of their vulnerability to atomic attack, they are not likely to conduct their policy at Lake Success [the United Nations] or in their relations with Russia in a spirit that furthers the arrival at an understanding. - Albert Einstein -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thater, William INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
sorry -- I read novels, respond visually to things, do math, remember faces but not names, see details AND the big picture so either I am more highly evolved and use both sides of my brain (not hardly) or the theory needs some modification --- Sinardy Xing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > This is my own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle > Document. > > Well... talking about women and men. > I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain > and most men use their right brain more than left brain. > > Function of left brain > - remember things, > - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a > day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love) > - person names > - history > - words (perhaps this is the reason why women like to read novels) > > Function of right brain > - response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason why > so many 2 minute men in the world > - everything in general (see thing in big picture) > - person faces > - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X > - pictures > > Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use your > left brain when talk to women, then she is yours. > > RF tell me if I am wrong > > > PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. > :) > > > Sinardy > > > > > -Original Message- > Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things > from > past which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially during > fights... > :) > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM > > > > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are > much > > better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better > specialists. > > Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we > men get > > into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt. > > > > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering > overall > things > > than I was > > > > RF > > > > > > -Original Message- > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM > > > > c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man > :) > > > > (yes, sexist, I know) > > > > > > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of > writing > > > such > > > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just > > > don't > > > waste their time on stuff like this. > > > > > > Tanel. > > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > > > >> > > > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > > > person > > > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > > >> > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Dick Goulet > > > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >> > > > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > > services > > > > >> > > > > - > > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > > message > > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and > > > in > > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). > You > > > may > > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > > subscribing). > > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > -- > > > > Author: Tim Gorman > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.co
RE: OT: Hey Jared!!
As Robert stirs the pot. ;o) -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are much better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better specialists. Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we men get into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt. My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overall things than I was RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) (yes, sexist, I know) --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > such > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just > don't > waste their time on stuff like this. > > Tanel. > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > >> > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > person > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Dick Goulet > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > >> -- > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > >> -- > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > >> > - > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > message > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > in > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > may > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > >> > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Tim Gorman > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tanel Poder > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robe
RE: RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
My own theory is that either male or female don't use their brain much. In fact it's pretty equivalent to the load of a Java-free machine. And perhaps it is just as well as it is. >- --- Original Message --- - >From: "Sinardy Xing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:59:27 > >Hi, > >This is my own theory, you can't find this >information from Oracle Document. > >Well... talking about women and men. >I believe most women use their left brain more than >right brain >and most men use their right brain more than left >brain. > >Function of left brain >- remember things, >- small thing but detail (this is the >reason why women take 1/2 a day to buy a pair of >shoe, and not that easy fall in love) >- person names >- history >- words (perhaps this is the reason why >women like to read novels) > >Function of right brain >- response to things (quick decision maker) >- this is the reason why so many 2 minute men in >the world >- everything in general (see thing in big >picture) >- person faces >- math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X >- pictures > >Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for >male DBA use your left brain when talk to women, >then she is yours. > >RF tell me if I am wrong > > >PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I >miss my home town. :) > > >Sinardy > > > > >-Original Message- >Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25 >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Women are also particularily good at remembering >small nasty things from >past which you've already forgotten long time ago. >Especially during >fights... >:) > >Tanel. > >- Original Message - >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM > > >> Not being sexist in any way, but it's my >experience that Women are much >> better "generalists" than men, but that men are >much better specialists. >> Thats why I think women do better in school early >on, but once we men get >> into the University level and pick our >speciality, we kick butt. >> >> My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better >remembering overall >things >> than I was >> >> RF >> >> >> -Original Message- >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM >> >> c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been >written by a man :) >> >> (yes, sexist, I know) >> >> >> --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I've seen only one female in my life who would >be capable of writing >> > such >> > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, >really). Women just >> > don't >> > waste their time on stuff like this. >> > >> > Tanel. >> > - Original Message - >> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM >> > >> > >> > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible >suspects... >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > >> > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy >behind this. >> > > > >> > > > Tanel. >> > > > >> > > > - Original Message - >> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, >justice do come: >> > > >> >> > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe >> > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the >bureau to find the >> > person >> > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group >it hosts. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Dick Goulet >> > > >> Senior Oracle DBA >> > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA >> > > >> -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT: Hey Jared!! -90 degree OT Joke
Hi, This is my own theory, you can't find this information from Oracle Document. Well... talking about women and men. I believe most women use their left brain more than right brain and most men use their right brain more than left brain. Function of left brain - remember things, - small thing but detail (this is the reason why women take 1/2 a day to buy a pair of shoe, and not that easy fall in love) - person names - history - words (perhaps this is the reason why women like to read novels) Function of right brain - response to things (quick decision maker) - this is the reason why so many 2 minute men in the world - everything in general (see thing in big picture) - person faces - math, 1 + 3 / 7 ^ 53 = X - pictures Well Friends train both side of your brain, and for male DBA use your left brain when talk to women, then she is yours. RF tell me if I am wrong PS: Just kidding., going to see Mars tonight I miss my home town. :) Sinardy -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2003 06:25 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things from past which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially during fights... :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are much > better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better specialists. > Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we men get > into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt. > > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overall things > than I was > > RF > > > -Original Message- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM > > c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) > > (yes, sexist, I know) > > > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > > such > > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just > > don't > > waste their time on stuff like this. > > > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > > >> > > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > > person > > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dick Goulet > > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > >> -- > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > >> -- > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > >> > > - > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > message > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > > in > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > > may > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Tim Gorman > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > > > - > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http:/
Re: OT: Hey Jared!!
> Still on the plus side I now have 1 days overtime clocked up in 2 days > elapsed time dealing with a .ing worm that some .ing user > decided to introduce to our systems at 4:35 am on a Sunday morning. This Have you read this about Ohio nuclear plant and Slammer worm? http://www.securityfocus.com/news/6767 Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT: Hey Jared!!
Rachel opined > c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) > > (yes, sexist, I know) I think the word you are looking for is "True" not "sexist". Still on the plus side I now have 1 days overtime clocked up in 2 days elapsed time dealing with a .ing worm that some .ing user decided to introduce to our systems at 4:35 am on a Sunday morning. This time has been spent engineering a fix for client side operating systems - but hey I can't do my real DR work because the DR site and the prod site won't talk to each other because of the ing Worm. By March we will have ripped out all our non-ms stuff, Oh good. For those who may be affected by nachi/blaster/sobig this is the field checklist 1, Remove from servers that escaped patching (easy) 2, Remove from client workstations ( a bugger if they are all laptops connected via dial-up once a month that user conveniently hasn't patched for 2 years) 3, Insert decommissioned kit into user who connected unauthorised pc to office LAN (this serves merely to boost morale by 'patching your organisations hole' :( Niall -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Niall Litchfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT: Hey Jared!!
Women are also particularily good at remembering small nasty things from past which you've already forgotten long time ago. Especially during fights... :) Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:59 AM > Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are much > better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better specialists. > Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we men get > into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt. > > My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overall things > than I was > > RF > > > -Original Message- > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM > > c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) > > (yes, sexist, I know) > > > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > > such > > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just > > don't > > waste their time on stuff like this. > > > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > > >> > > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > > person > > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dick Goulet > > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > >> -- > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > >> -- > > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > >> > > - > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > message > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > > in > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > > may > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Tim Gorman > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > > > - > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Tanel Poder > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this
RE: OT: Hey Jared!!
Not being sexist in any way, but it's my experience that Women are much better "generalists" than men, but that men are much better specialists. Thats why I think women do better in school early on, but once we men get into the University level and pick our speciality, we kick butt. My soon to be ex-wife was frequently much better remembering overall things than I was RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 8/27/2003 6:44 AM c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) (yes, sexist, I know) --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > such > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just > don't > waste their time on stuff like this. > > Tanel. > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > >> > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > person > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Dick Goulet > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > >> -- > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > >> -- > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > >> > - > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > message > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > in > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > may > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > >> > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Tim Gorman > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tanel Poder > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hostin
RE: Hey Jared!!
And it would be for a limited duration vs. the weeks these damned worms tie things up. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L But the webcast will probably draw a rather large audience and cause the entire internet to come to a standstill! Ah well for a good cause I can handle that. :-) Jack -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, Well if you REALLY want to know how I feel about these types of idiots, I'd much prefer them to be publicly hanged, drawn & quartered. Webcasting it would be very appriopriate too. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You're MUCH too merciful! We should start by infecting him or her with worms and viruses of the biologic type. :-) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person who > uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'L
RE: Hey Jared!!
But the webcast will probably draw a rather large audience and cause the entire internet to come to a standstill! Ah well for a good cause I can handle that. :-) Jack -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Steve, Well if you REALLY want to know how I feel about these types of idiots, I'd much prefer them to be publicly hanged, drawn & quartered. Webcasting it would be very appriopriate too. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You're MUCH too merciful! We should start by infecting him or her with worms and viruses of the biologic type. :-) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person who > uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:
Re: Hey Jared!!
- Original Message - > > Well if you REALLY want to know how I feel about these types of idiots, I'd much > prefer them to be publicly hanged, drawn & quartered. Webcasting it would be very appriopriate too. Agreed. Difficulty is in finding them. BTW, if any1 saw Wayne Bastow's message with the virus, it was a spoof as well. He was on hols at the time. Just checked. Probably some1 infected who had his and oracle-l's addies in their adress book. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Hey Jared!!
Steve, Well if you REALLY want to know how I feel about these types of idiots, I'd much prefer them to be publicly hanged, drawn & quartered. Webcasting it would be very appriopriate too. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You're MUCH too merciful! We should start by infecting him or her with worms and viruses of the biologic type. :-) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:OT: Hey Jared!!
c'mon... any virus named "SoBig" has to have been written by a man :) (yes, sexist, I know) --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing > such > virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just > don't > waste their time on stuff like this. > > Tanel. > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > > > > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > >> > > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the > person > > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Dick Goulet > > >> Senior Oracle DBA > > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > >> -- > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > >> -- > > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > >> > - > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > message > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > in > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > may > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > >> > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Tim Gorman > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like > subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tanel Poder > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re:OT: Hey Jared!!
I've seen only one female in my life who would be capable of writing such virus. But that is not the issue (no offence, really). Women just don't waste their time on stuff like this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:54 AM > "Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... > > > > on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > > > Tanel. > > > > - Original Message - > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > >> > >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > >> > >> > >> > >> Dick Goulet > >> Senior Oracle DBA > >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA > >> -- > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > >> -- > >> Author: Goulet, Dick > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > >> - > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >> > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tim Gorman > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT: Hey Jared!!
And his keyboard is taken away from him/her publicly. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:09 AM > I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -Original Message- > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > > > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > > > > > Dick Goulet > > Senior Oracle DBA > > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Goulet, Dick > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Tanel Poder > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Hey Jared!!
"Guy"? You've eliminated 50% of all possible suspects... on 8/26/03 1:44 PM, Tanel Poder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. > > Tanel. > > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > > >> For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: >> >> FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe >> Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person >> who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. >> informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 >> >> >> >> Dick Goulet >> Senior Oracle DBA >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA >> -- >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >> -- >> Author: Goulet, Dick >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services >> - >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Hey Jared!!
I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Hey Jared!!
You're MUCH too merciful! We should start by infecting him or her with worms and viruses of the biologic type. :-) -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I sure hope so. Then he/she should be publicly tarred & Feathered. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Hey Jared!!
He's with Saddam, Mullah Omar and UBL. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- Tanel Poder Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Wang Trading LLC and any of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Hey Jared!!
I doubt they will ever find the real guy behind this. Tanel. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:19 PM > For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: > > FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe > Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person > who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. > informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 > > > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Goulet, Dick > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Hey Jared!!
For all you virus/worm lovers out there, justice do come: FBI Subpoenas Arizona ISP In Sobig Probe Easynews says it's cooperating with the bureau to find the person who uploaded the virus to a Usenet group it hosts. informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=13800091 Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Hey Jared
Darn bleeding users Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - > Windows would be a wonderful OS, if people would just quit installing applications. > Solitaire runs. > ;) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Hey Jared
I think you can use your mail filter, If Jared have this virus, soon you will see the entire Oracle-l will send this virus to each other. -Original Message- Sent: 26 August 2003 01:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It is a virus, dump it. VIRUS ALERT: New E-mail Worm A new e-mail mass mailer worm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has been detected on our computer network and may pose a significant security threat. If you have received an e-mail with the characteristics listed below, DO NOT open any attachments; delete the message immediately. No other action is necessary. Subject (containing one of the following): · Re: Details · Re: Approved · Re: Re: My details · Re: Thank you! · Re: That movie · Re: Wicked screensaver · Re: Your application · Thank you! · Your details Body: · See the attached file for details. · Please see the attached file for details. Name of attachments: · application.zip (contains application.pif) · details.zip (contains details.pif) · document_9446.zip (contains document_9446.pif) · document_all.zip (contains document_all.pif) · movie0045.zip (contains movie0045.pif) · thank_you.zip (contains thank_you.pif) · your_details.zip (contains your_details.pif) · your_document.zip (contains your_document.pif) · wicked_scr.zip (contains wicked_scr.scr) - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:14 PM > Jared, >Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. > It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to > make sure before i open it. > > Thanks. > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed > >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > > > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should > >never have been sent. > > > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > > > >This does not characterize the people I work for, > >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do > >understand technology. > > > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past > >experiences. > > > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > > > >Jared > > > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > > Mladen, > > > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > > to understand. > > > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which > >had > > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of > >them and > > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of > >building them > > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the > >lines of "if > > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it > >certainly > > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful > >comment > > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his > >CIO/CFO > > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has > >expedited > > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks > >(my > > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core > >computer > > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to > >understand. > > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing > >to > > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends
Re: Hey Jared
Sobig -F does carry out spoofing , but Jared here is a question : either which way (spoofed or not) wouldn't list-guru remove all attached binaries ? Anyway I am not going to open any such mails. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 23:25 > Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it. > > From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there. > > That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus. > > That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those. > > A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is > found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC > running Outlook. > > As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened. > > Jared > > > > > > > "Dilip Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 08/25/2003 10:14 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject:Hey Jared > > > Jared, >Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. > > It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to > > make sure before i open it. > > Thanks. > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed > >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > > > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should > >never have been sent. > > > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > > > >This does not characterize the people I work for, > >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do > >understand technology. > > > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past > >experiences. > > > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > > > >Jared > > > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > > Mladen, > > > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > > to understand. > > > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which > > >had > > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all > of > >them and > > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of > >building them > > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the > >lines of "if > > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it > > >certainly > > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful > >comment > > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his > >CIO/CFO > > >
RE: Hey Jared
Come on, be fair, M$ is not that unstable/insecure. It's all the 3rd party products, how do you expect them to be stable/secure with all the unknown applications people install. Windows would be a wonderful OS, if people would just quit installing applications. Solitaire runs. ;) > -Original Message- > From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Hey Jared > > > Security hole with M$? That would definitely the 1st one! I > mean, it's not > like the security holes > are regular thing with M$. M$ operating systems are known as > rock solid and > completely secure products. > Fox news are fair and balanced. > > > -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Anderson, Brian INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Hey Jared
Security hole with M$? That would definitely the 1st one! I mean, it's not like the security holes are regular thing with M$. M$ operating systems are known as rock solid and completely secure products. Fox news are fair and balanced. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -Original Message- uth Gramolini Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L That could be considered a security hole, not a feature! Ruth -Original Message- up Nanda Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:30 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Now that's one place M$ is way ahead of Oracle, with easy do-it-yourself "become any user" privilege! - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:55 PM Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it. >From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there. That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus. That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those. A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC running Outlook. As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened. Jared "Dilip Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/2003 10:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Hey Jared Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should >never have been sent. > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > >This does not characterize the people I work for, >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >understand technology. > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >experiences. > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > >Jared > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > Mladen, > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > to understand. > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which >had > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of >them and > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it >certainly > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful >comment > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the
RE: Hey Jared
That
could be considered a security hole, not a feature!
Ruth
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Now that's one place M$ is way ahead of Oracle,
with easy do-it-yourself "become any user" privilege!
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PM
Subject: Re: Hey Jared
Wasn't from me. Our
virus checker here at work would stop it. From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii
from there. That would require
that I manually forward a message with a virus. That is also not likely, since my ISP stops
those. A virus will spoof
someones email address when that address is found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a
PC running Outlook.
As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this
is likely what happened. Jared
"Dilip Patel"
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08/25/2003 10:14 AM
Please respond to ORACLE-L
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc:
Subject: Hey
JaredJared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your
Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that
is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open
it.Thanks.>From: Jared Still
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has
changed>Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17
-0800>>>Here's a perfect example of an email that
should>never have been sent.>>Sigh... I'll learn one of
these days.>>This does not characterize the people I work
for,>as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do>understand
technology.>>It's more of a generalized rant fueled by
past>experiences.>>Should have hit 'delete' on this one
instead of 'send'.>>Jared>>On Sun, 2003-08-24 at
11:19, Jared Still wrote:> > Mladen,> >> > My
version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.>
>> > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs
in?> >> > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party
hounds.> >> > If like me, you were one of the
'eggheads', you didn't fit> > in so well with their clique, and
maybe you still don't.> >> > When in school, I was told
I would be more popular if I> > "wasn't so smart". I was
even told that once as an adult.> >> > After pondering
that for a bit, I decided they could all> > bite the green weenie
if they didn't like it.> >> > This is probably how I
earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism,> > which I do work hard at
keeping in check, lest it cause me> > more problems with the
former 'in' folk that I now work for.> >> > 'They' don't
like it when people are smarter than they are,> > and understand
things they don't understand, and can't hope> > to
understand.> >> > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so
I guess I'll stop> > before I provide too much fodder for an HR
type that has> > finally learned how to use google.>
>> > Jared> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Sat, 2003-08-23
at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:> > >> > > On
2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:> > >> > > >
Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which
>had> > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my
way, I'd get rid of all of >them and> > > > replace
them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building
them> > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was
something along the >lines of "if> > > > you think
developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it
>certainly> > > > bounced off him. At the time,
I took it as just another colorful >comment> > > >
from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his
>CIO/CFO> > > > brethren,
Re: Hey Jared
Now that's one place M$ is way ahead of Oracle, with easy do-it-yourself "become any user" privilege! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Hey Jared Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it. From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there. That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus. That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those. A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC running Outlook. As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened. Jared "Dilip Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/2003 10:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Hey JaredJared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it.Thanks.>From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed>Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800>>>Here's a perfect example of an email that should>never have been sent.>>Sigh... I'll learn one of these days.>>This does not characterize the people I work for,>as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do>understand technology.>>It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past>experiences.>>Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'.>>Jared>>On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote:> > Mladen,> >> > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.> >> > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in?> >> > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds.> >> > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit> > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't.> >> > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I> > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult.> >> > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all> > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it.> >> > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism,> > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me> > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for.> >> > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are,> > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope> > to understand.> >> > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop> > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has> > finally learned how to use google.> >> > Jared> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:> > >> > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:> > >> > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which >had> > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of >them and> > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them> > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if> > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it >certainly> > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful >comment> > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO> > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >expedited> > > > his prediction...> > >> > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks >(my> > > apologies to anyone offended by that _expression_, but I'm a hard core >computer> > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >understand.> > > IT people are very
Re: Hey Jared
Well 'tthpt' to you to. ;) Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/2003 10:45 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Re: Hey Jared Jared's sending viruses, nahnahnahnah(ok i know it spoofed but thought i'd make fun of him anyways, besides i've been getting bounce messages from email addys that dont exist on "viruses" i've sent and i dont run windows, so I KNOW those are spoofed). joe Dilip Patel wrote: > Jared, > Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject > line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So > wanted to make sure before i open it. > > Thanks. > > >> From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 >> >> >> Here's a perfect example of an email that should >> never have been sent. >> >> Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. >> >> This does not characterize the people I work for, >> as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >> understand technology. >> >> It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >> experiences. >> >> Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. >> >> Jared >> >> On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: >> > Mladen, >> > >> > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. >> > >> > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? >> > >> > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. >> > >> > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit >> > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. >> > >> > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I >> > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. >> > >> > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all >> > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. >> > >> > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, >> > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me >> > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. >> > >> > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, >> > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope >> > to understand. >> > >> > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop >> > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has >> > finally learned how to use google. >> > >> > Jared >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: >> > > >> > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: >> > > >> > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor >> which had >> > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of >> all of them and >> > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >> building them >> > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >> lines of "if >> > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but >> it certainly >> > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another >> colorful comment >> > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >> CIO/CFO >> > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >> expedited >> > > > his prediction... >> > > >> > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer >> geeks (my >> > > apologies to anyone offended by that _expression_, but I'm a hard >> core computer >> > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >> understand. >> > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly >> willing to >> > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of >> the
Re: Hey Jared
Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it. From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there. That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus. That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those. A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC running Outlook. As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened. Jared "Dilip Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/25/2003 10:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: Hey Jared Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should >never have been sent. > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > >This does not characterize the people I work for, >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >understand technology. > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >experiences. > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > >Jared > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > Mladen, > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > to understand. > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which >had > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of >them and > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it >certainly > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful >comment > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >expedited > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks >(my > > > apologies to anyone offended by that _expression_, but I'm a hard core >computer > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >understand. > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing >to > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the >company. > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if >lawyers > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database >administrators, > > >
RE: Hey Jared
Title: RE: Hey Jared The Mezcal Worm -Original Message- From: Robson, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Hey Jared ITS THE WORM !!! DON'T OPEN IT ! -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should >never have been sent. > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > >This does not characterize the people I work for, >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >understand technology. > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >experiences. > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > >Jared > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > Mladen, > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit in so > > well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I "wasn't so > > smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all bite the > > green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, which > > I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me more problems > > with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, and > > understand things they don't understand, and can't hope to > > understand. > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop before I > > provide too much fodder for an HR type that has finally learned how > > to use google. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor > > > > which >had > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all > > > > of >them and > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but > > > > it >certainly > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another > > > > colorful >comment > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >expedited > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer > > > geeks >(my > > > apologies to anyone offended by that _expression_, but I'm a hard > > > core >computer > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >understand. > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly > > > willing >to > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of > > > the >company. > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at > > > several executives and managers of several companies I worked for. > > > Even if >lawyers > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database >administrators, > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the > > > switch. I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone > > > want to kill a nice and seet litt
RE: Hey Jared
ITS THE WORM !!! DON'T OPEN IT ! -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should >never have been sent. > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > >This does not characterize the people I work for, >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >understand technology. > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >experiences. > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > >Jared > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > Mladen, > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > to understand. > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which >had > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of >them and > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it >certainly > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful >comment > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >expedited > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks >(my > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core >computer > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >understand. > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing >to > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the >company. > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if >lawyers > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database >administrators, > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch. > > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill > > > a nice and seet little wabbit? > > > > > > -- > > > Mladen Gogala > > > Oracle DBA > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > - > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Jared Still > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing lis
RE: Hey Jared
Title: RE: Hey Jared This has happened to me ... too, listguru received an email that I didn't send. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:45 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Hey Jared I got the same mail, but did not open it. I trust you, Jared, but the mail looks wyyy to suspicious. It got the old "Permanent Delete" treatment. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1
Re: Hey Jared
Jared's sending viruses, nahnahnahnah(ok i know it spoofed but thought i'd make fun of him anyways, besides i've been getting bounce messages from email addys that dont exist on "viruses" i've sent and i dont run windows, so I KNOW those are spoofed). joe Dilip Patel wrote: Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 Here's a perfect example of an email that should never have been sent. Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. This does not characterize the people I work for, as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do understand technology. It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past experiences. Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. Jared On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > Mladen, > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > to understand. > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > finally learned how to use google. > > Jared > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which had > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of them and > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of building them > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the lines of "if > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it certainly > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful comment > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his CIO/CFO > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has expedited > > > his prediction... > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks (my > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core computer > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to understand. > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing to > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the company. > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if lawyers > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database administrators, > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch. > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill > > a nice and seet little wabbit? > > > > -- > > Mladen Gogala > > Oracle DBA > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Jared Still > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the m
RE: Hey Jared
I got the same mail, but did not open it. I trust you, Jared, but the mail looks wyyy to suspicious. It got the old "Permanent Delete" treatment. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should >never have been sent. > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > >This does not characterize the people I work for, >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do >understand technology. > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past >experiences. > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > >Jared > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > Mladen, > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > to understand. > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which >had > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of >them and > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of >building them > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the >lines of "if > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it >certainly > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful >comment > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his >CIO/CFO > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has >expedited > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks >(my > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core >computer > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to >understand. > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing >to > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the >company. > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if >lawyers > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database >administrators, > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch. > > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill > > > a nice and seet little wabbit? > > > > > > -- > > > Mladen Gogala > > > Oracle DBA > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > - > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Jared Still > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-
Re: Hey Jared
It is a virus, dump it. VIRUS ALERT: New E-mail Worm A new e-mail mass mailer worm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has been detected on our computer network and may pose a significant security threat. If you have received an e-mail with the characteristics listed below, DO NOT open any attachments; delete the message immediately. No other action is necessary. Subject (containing one of the following): · Re: Details · Re: Approved · Re: Re: My details · Re: Thank you! · Re: That movie · Re: Wicked screensaver · Re: Your application · Thank you! · Your details Body: · See the attached file for details. · Please see the attached file for details. Name of attachments: · application.zip (contains application.pif) · details.zip (contains details.pif) · document_9446.zip (contains document_9446.pif) · document_all.zip (contains document_all.pif) · movie0045.zip (contains movie0045.pif) · thank_you.zip (contains thank_you.pif) · your_details.zip (contains your_details.pif) · your_document.zip (contains your_document.pif) · wicked_scr.zip (contains wicked_scr.scr) - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:14 PM > Jared, >Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. > It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to > make sure before i open it. > > Thanks. > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed > >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > > > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should > >never have been sent. > > > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > > > >This does not characterize the people I work for, > >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do > >understand technology. > > > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past > >experiences. > > > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > > > >Jared > > > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > > Mladen, > > > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > > to understand. > > > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which > >had > > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of > >them and > > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of > >building them > > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the > >lines of "if > > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it > >certainly > > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful > >comment > > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his > >CIO/CFO > > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has > >expedited > > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks > >(my > > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core > >computer > > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to > >understand. > > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing > >to > > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the > >company. > > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if > >lawyers > > > > are much more expensive the pro
Hey Jared
Jared, Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to make sure before i open it. Thanks. From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 Here's a perfect example of an email that should never have been sent. Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. This does not characterize the people I work for, as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do understand technology. It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past experiences. Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. Jared On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > Mladen, > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > to understand. > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > finally learned how to use google. > > Jared > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which had > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of them and > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of building them > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the lines of "if > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it certainly > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful comment > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his CIO/CFO > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has expedited > > > his prediction... > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks (my > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core computer > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to understand. > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing to > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the company. > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if lawyers > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database administrators, > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch. > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill > > a nice and seet little wabbit? > > > > -- > > Mladen Gogala > > Oracle DBA > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Jared Still > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still
