[OGD] Cattleya!!
Hi All. I recently bought a plant of OTR JANE FUMIYE 'HAWAII' . Can anyone tell me what the "OTR" part of the name means. also any tips on flowering time. growing conditions: IE warm grower, or needs heat or hot conditions. Cheerio and thanks in advance. Ron in NSW Australia where we fineally get the much needed rain. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Andy again
Here's another email sent to me from Andy for you all to read, hope you get the same chuckle I did! Andy...you got me shakin in my boots! Quote from Andy's email: (Do hope you come to Miami in 2008...I may be getting on a bit but will look forward to poking you one right in the middle of your ignorant countenance. My whole life I have enjoyed exposing ignorant poseurs. Welcome to the list.) Cody Cruise Valley Pest Consulting ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] RE: Good bye
Well Frank goodbye to you, don't get excited, it was just a joke, but you seem to be too narrow minded to understand. Uri Baruk FRANCE ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] America is the world
It took a long time for science to triumph over creationist beliefs... and as orchid lovers, you should all know full well that Darwin was right. I still hold creationist beliefs. I refuse to accept that something as intricate as the brain can evolve from non-animate conglomerations. The more I learn of the natural world, the more convinced I am. Evolutionary trends in contemporary biological life do not indicate past trends, no matter how much one may want to remove God from the picture. Carl "let the barbecue commence" Gustafson ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] America is the world
Orchids are just one of many reasons I believe in God. The incredible intracacy and beauty is, in my opinion, not the result of chance. Evolution is not a lawit is a theory. Sharon On 10 Dec 2004 at 14:55, Carl Gustafson wrote: > >It took a long time for science to triumph over creationist > >beliefs... and as orchid lovers, you should all know full well that > >Darwin was right. > > I still hold creationist beliefs. I refuse to accept that something as > intricate as the brain can evolve from non-animate conglomerations. > The more I learn of the natural world, the more convinced I am. > Evolutionary trends in contemporary biological life do not indicate > past trends, no matter how much one may want to remove God from the > picture. > > Carl "let the barbecue commence" Gustafson > > ___ > the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com > ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Orchid Registration
I understand Julian Shaw has allowed two different names for the cross V. Lumpini Red x V. coerulea. V. Grove's Dream = V. Lumpini Red x V. coerulea Pink Flowered Group and V. Peregrina Lorenzo = V. Lumpini Red x V. coerulea Blue Flowered Group From what I understand this has been allowed before and is acceptable under the international naming protocols. But!! People who buy these orchids, breed with these orchids and most importantly remake these orchid grexes should remember that one is made with the pink variety and one is made with the blue variety. K Barrett N Calif, USA _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] America is the world
Good grief, as if C*T*S (the bad word) and cross-border tirades weren't enough I need more popcorn. Seriously folks... take it outside. I BEG you!!! :-) > Evolution is not a lawit is a theory. > -- www.pollenatrix.com "Botanical discipline, daily." ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Fred Hillerman celebrates 90th birthday
FYI : "Fred Hillerman, of Grass Valley... spent two years in the jungles of Colombia... moved to Grass Valley and he opened an orchid business, specializing in flowers from Madagascar... Fred Hillerman has some basic tips on how to live to 90... - Consume blueberries... - Cultivate your sense of humor..." full news story : http://www.theunion.com/article/20041210/TODAYSFEATURE/112100080 * Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] OGD's purpose
Marianne F., Harvey B. and Peter C., I'm with you. I'm very happy to be a US citizen (my license plate says IM4 USA), but I also consider myself to be a citizen of the world. I think some of us "Americans" are a bit too isolated -- we don't even acknowledge that to be American could also be Canadian, Mexican, Peruvian, etc. We are rightly outraged about 9/11 (thank you, the rest of the world, for your support and condolences after that tragic event), but we don't get outraged at what we are doing to the tens of thousands of innocent civilians in a war that was started under false pretenses. None of us are perfect -- we all make mistakes. Maybe we say things we shouldn't sometimes. That's all quite human. However, anyone who must frequently resort to name-calling and denigration of character, runs the risk of being lowered in the opinions of others. Disagreement is good. Name calling is not. Orchids are the tie that bind us together. One of the things that has astonished, and encouraged me with regard to this list, is the fact that I read notes from people from all over the world. And you all speak my language! I'm not talking about English, though that certainly helps me, but I'm talking about the language of orchids. Let's keep talking this language, please. I'm on this list because I want to learn more about orchids. Dot ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Marianne and Sandy
Wow...Marianne really said it all...I am in love...If I was not married I would surely want to know that gal...Perfectly said..I have reread it many times...Love it...I do not feel that any more can be said on the subject after that...and Sandy...Great remark...Cock fighting is all the thing here in Hawaii. But never has the concept been better expressed...See how much fun it is congratulating people on the good stuffthe other side being?...and come on Andy...can you not take adulation in stride? I know that Guido always replied to me with nice comments when things were going on his side...as seldom as that happened, except when he quitSure hope that you do not...It would only leave.wellthose who only want the info..which most of us already have..tho the rest vitally need...but, lets face it..if you have been into this for 30 years..you have mostly heard it all and have benefited or screwed up accordingly...Happy to see that someone found the article on the alba by Wilson...I took far too much guff on that...Hey.!!! I was just quoting...With four years of Latin behind me I could not quibble with those who wanted to be perfectionists...I am just a poor judge who has to go by the rules as they exist..right or wrong according to Caesar...Bill And that note from Marianne...WOW...there is a great dame...(broad?) now quoting Sinatra... ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
Re: [OGD] Andy
It's just about the only entertainment left in that particular genre ever since cock-fighting was banned On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 07:31:01 -1000, Dorris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It would be nice, > however, if these people could reread what they say and try to take a bit of > the edge off now and then...though reading their stuff is about all I really > enjoy (on my part)..It does add spice now and then...Bill > -- www.pollenatrix.com "Botanical discipline, daily." ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] harvest time - Neofinetia
michael : you query : "interested in breeding two of the Neofinetias... (approximately) how long it takes from the time of pollination to the time when you can harvest a green pod for flasking of this species." for Neofinetia falcata, 165 days source : Proceedings of the 16th World Orchid Conference, page 238. *** Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Can anyone in this group ...
Do a translation into English from a descriptiom enterely written in botanical Latin. If you can do it or know some one that can do it; please advise via my email TIA Jose A. Izquierdo ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
RE: [OGD] Can anyone in this group ...
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~pbostock/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose A. Izquierdo ... Do a translation into English from a descriptiom enterely written in botanical Latin. If you can do it or know some one that can do it; please advise via my email --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.808 / Virus Database: 550 - Release Date: 08-Dec-04 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Otaara
Ron : You wrote : "OTR JANE FUMIYE 'HAWAII'... what the "OTR" part of the name means" OTR abrreviates Otaara (Brassavola x Broughtonia x Cattleya x Laelia) From that you can deduce that your plant needs warm temperatures and good to excellent light. The best of luck with your plant. Regards, Viateur ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Andy
in reference to Janes remarks regarding Andy...I have known him for over twenty years I suppose, and she has him dead right. He will spend countless hours helping you and answering all your needs...I spent a wonderful day back in Florida with him a few months ago and he was as charming as ever...So why the acerb? I have no idea though having taken courses in psychology in college...It is his way...as it is with Guido...who is also a very charming guy in person...and I should know, having him stay at the house for days on end...Some folks just have to get it off their chest I suppose...another thing is that one might easily misinterpret at least some of what a person writes when not hearing it straight from their mouthAt any rate do not always sell someone short just from their replies...Even Peter, though anti American in his messages, is a very helpful and apparently nice guy when off the subject of AmericaIt would be nice, however, if these people could reread what they say and try to take a bit of the edge off now and then...though reading their stuff is about all I really enjoy (on my part)..It does add spice now and then...Bill ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] America is the world?
I try to avoid political discussion on this list, but I can't let this pass. I believe that most of the world would find this notion offensive. Indeed, perhaps it is this notion that has gotten the US government in trouble recently on a number of fronts. In my experience, most citizens of the world love their countries and don't want to leave them, although they may want to improve conditions there if possible. In my own travels, I have often been quite amazed at how much about the US and American politics taxi drivers know (much more, I might add, than the average American voter), and I've had some interesting and enlightening conversations with them. (Perhaps they listen to the BBC while waiting for "rides".) They, of course, have no voice in political decisions made half a world away from them that have the potential of greatlyl impacting their lives for good or ill. Sincerely, Harvey Brenneise In a grey and rainy Seattle ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Neofinetia breeding
I'm interested in breeding two of the Neofinetias in my collection next spring when they flower, and am hoping that someone on the list can let me know (approximately) how long it takes from the time of pollination to the time when you can harvest a green pod for flasking of this species. Has anyone here had any success breeding Neos in the past? Any advice would be appreciated. __ Do you Yahoo!? Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
[OGD] Re: Evolution
In a message dated 12/10/04 6:00:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Orchids are just one of many reasons I believe in God. The incredible intracacy and beauty is, in my opinion, not the result of chance. Evolution is not a lawit is a theory." The notion that one cannot both believe in God and accept Evolution is totally puzzling to me. I have no trouble doing both. Certainly one cannot accept a literal interpretation of Genesis as related in the Torah and also accept Evolution. But Darwin's theory says nothing about the existence of God, and not all who believe in God follow the Torah or the Gospels. Catholicism, and most branches of Judaism accept the Theory of Evolution as compatible with their theology. And the Jewish and Christian holy books are but two of many in the world! Orchids provide one of the most elegant examples of evolution: with divergence of species, convergent evolution, introgression, co-evolution of flower and pollinator, and other mechanisms of evolution clearly visible throughout the family. Many consider the Orchids to be the most evolutionarily active of plant families. Speciation does not occur by chance, but in response to selection pressure of all sorts. This pressure may or may not be random, who knows? And even if it is random, how does that diminish the wonder and amazement this world inspires in most people? The reality of evolution is well documented. The mechanisms are fairly well understood at this point. Studies of fossils, field studies, genetic analyses, and experimentation show evolution at work on all time scales. Unfortunately plants leave fewer fossils than animals, so paleobotany gives few clues about the origins of Orchids, but cladistics has helped work out the family tree. A theory in scientific usage does not have quite the same meaning as in common usage. A theory in science must both explain the observed facts and be able to make predictions. Opinion and belief have no part in it. In common usage it seems to mean the same as a hypothesis does in scientific usage. Theories are subject to revision as new information is found, they are not set in stone. As scientific theories go, evolution is holding up quite well; it has lasted better than Einsteinian Relativity has (Relativity is currently under assault by Quantum and Superstring theory, and will probably emerge greatly changed). ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids_orchidguide.com
