Which JDK?
Hi, I've just installed Netscape 6, and now I can't start Orion. It seems that it checks the registry for Version 1.2 of the Java RunTime, but Netscape 6 upgrades it to 1.3. Is there any way around this, since I have other stuff that needs JDK1.3. Thanks.
Re: Why is it so hard?
Hello, Does Prosyst's server really implement all J2EE standards? I thought they were still supporting the obsolete JSP 1.0 specifcation and Servlet 2.1. In J2EE, JSP 1.1 and Servlet 2.2 is required. However, I might have missed when they upgraded to JSP 1.1/Servlet 2.2. Oops, getting very off-topic here, I'll try to not get tempted to discuss that server any further, since this is not really a good forum for it (rather the opposite). Also, Orion can use more than one SSL engine and I'm sure you can find one you can use in Ukraine too. (I'll look into this) Regards, Karl Avedal Vitaly Lipovetsky wrote: I offer you to try application server from www.prosyst.com. They implement all J2EE components in pure java server and don't have stupid restriction about 128 bit for SSL (It's germany company). But their server consumes more memory. Now I'm trying to compare Orion and prosyst. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dale, I agree with you. Also my experience with Orion was unpleasant. Some jsp custom tag that I developed don't work with Orion and work fine with Tomcat and in other Jsp Container, the EJB demo crash the JVM, the documentation is very poor. Also I have sent one month ago, 2 commercial mails in order to know some aspect of the Orion license concerning the SSL support. Any answer Best Regards Paolo Sommaruga Garda Access Garda (Vr), Italy I have been monitoring this list for a while and have not had time to try out Orion yet. Well I found that I had a half hour so I jumped in and tried to set up the ejb demo that comes with it. I noticed many posts about how it doesn't work. Well I am having problems also. I followed the instructions and get the following error: Error initializing server: ConnectionDataSource driver 'connect.microsoft.MicrosoftDriver' not found Well I placed my jar file in orion/lib just like the install.txt said to do... What now. Also, here is possibly a stupid question... I could not find in the install.txt what the database should look like (tables and columns). Does this not hit a db? If not, why do we need a datasource? There was a post earlier by Karl Avedal who I assume is part of the Orion team that said to expect the GUI tools very soon with BIG enhancements. When is very soon and what will the GUI tools help with? Will the tools help me with this? From the other posts that I see, the GUI tools should not be a replacement from real documentation. The GUI tools should help us out a bunch, but we still need to know about the configuration. So far, I see a lot of answers to posts from (I assume) the Orion team with answers that I do not see in the sorry excuse for documentation text files. Why should you expect us to pay, even though very inexpensive compared to others, when we do not get good documentation. There should not be a single configuration/feature/whatever that is not documented. I know I am not the first to ask for this and will not be the last, but why aren't you (Orion) listening? I will be glad to fork over $1500 to you even without GUI tools if I could get some decent documentation. What do I mean: 1. A getting started that holds my hand and walks through every step (and make sure each step works) of your examples leaving nothing for assumption. 2. Documentation on what each element means and why we would use it and what it will do. Your xml.html files start, but expand on them. 3. A full reference of what your server can do and how to do them (not hand holding here, more advanced). Example is the earlier post if isModified(). I found that my EJB container provider has the same thing, but a different method name (actually they let us name the method). I could not find this in your docs anywhere, but could in my container docs and it is free. I know I am not the only one who feels this way by the post I see and I don't have the time to devote to this if the simple demo does not even work. I am sure the demo works fine, but the instructions are obviously not clear enough or I wouldn't be the only one having problems. Thanks, Dale -- My best regards, Vitaly Lipovetsky. Deputy head of IT division First Ukrainian Intl bank Brainbench(Tekmetrix) e-certification id 14050 SYBASE DBA 4.38 Brainbench(Tekmetrix) e-certification id 14050 MS SQL Server DBA 4.51
Re: Why is it so hard?
Hello Paolo, I'm not sure all 400+ people on the list want to find personal "I agree" mails in their mailboxes, a feature we don't use enough is to answer to the person and not to everyone on the list. However, since it appeared on the list, I'd like to comment on your remarks, The custom tags you used, can you explain the error (in a personal mail or a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll try to find out if this is a bug in Orion or if there is something else. Tomcat has been known to break the spec. in many cases and allowed things that are incorrect, but I'm not saying that this is the case with your problem, they could of course be related to some bug in Orion, and if that is the case we'd like to know and fix it. Again, documentation is important, but we can't really take credit for the JVM crash/bug. Regards, Karl Avedal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dale, I agree with you. Also my experience with Orion was unpleasant. Some jsp custom tag that I developed don't work with Orion and work fine with Tomcat and in other Jsp Container, the EJB demo crash the JVM, the documentation is very poor.
Admin Tools
Hi Guys, Are there any admin tools out there for Orion. I have looked at all the various XML files, but the docs are not detailed enough to explain what the all do, and the hardest thing is working out how they all fit together. If anyone can give me hand with this it would greatly appreciated. regards Robert Keith
Problem accessing a native library in a servlet
How can I access a native library (a dll in my case) from a servlet and not get the java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError exception? I tried setting the lib path to point to the file and I even tried to put the dll into the orion/lib directory but still doesn't work. Can anyone help me here?
Re: TagLib Bug?
Hello Dave, Something's weird with your Orion installation or version, the class you're referring to is an old class (pre-JSP 1.1 final), Orion does not use this class anymore (as it's not in the spec anymore). Does this appear for you using the latest official version? (That is 0.9.4) /Karl DaveFord wrote: I have been trying to get the taglib feature to work. But it does not work. It keeps telling me it can't find a class called javax.servlet.jsp.JspError. I noticed in the archives, that a few others on the list have reported the same problem. Upon further inspection, I found out that javax.servlet.jsp.JspError does not exist! But some Orion class obviously is looking for javax.servlet.jsp.JspError. So I created a dummy class called javax.servlet.jsp.JspError and now it works. Is this a bug or am I crazy? Dave Ford
RE: Admin Tools
A good way to learn what the XML files do, is look at the J2EE specification. There are standard files, which are not really documented in Orion, but are documented to a great extend in the J2EE specification. Then there are specific orion deployment files. These are not documented too well, but if you take a look at the .DTD it contains a goodly amount of comments so that you can figure out what all the parameters and their options are. -AP_ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Keith (UK) Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 4:05 AM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Admin Tools Hi Guys, Are there any admin tools out there for Orion. I have looked at all the various XML files, but the docs are not detailed enough to explain what the all do, and the hardest thing is working out how they all fit together. If anyone can give me hand with this it would greatly appreciated. regards Robert Keith
Multiple clients calling session bean get exceptions after a while...
I have a simple Session BEAN with 1 method which prints a message to the server's console. I start two clients, each looks up the home and creates a new session bean. They start calling the function in a tight loop. After some time (100 to 500) calls one of the client stops calling. A bit later I get an exception from BOTH clients: javax.transaction.TransactionRolledbackException: java.lang.NullPointerException at com.evermind.server.rmi.a2.invokeMethod(JAX, Compiled Code) at com.evermind.server.rmi.au.invoke(JAX, Compiled Code) at Proxy4.findByName(Unknown Source) at com.citysearch.ejb.Entity.EntityClient.main(EntityClient.java, Compiled Code) Sometimes I get a deadlock exception on the server, in other times nothing. I am running 0.9.4 version of Orion on Windows NT. Thanks. -AP_
Re: Which JDK?
Hello, There's no problem having many JDK:s installed on the same box. Also, Orion does indeed run best with JDK 1.3 if you have it. If Netscape has messed up your jvm somehow you can always set the path to point to the old jdk or start it using c:\path\to\your\old\jdk\bin\java -jar orion.jar Regards, Karl Avedal Raymond Offiah wrote: Hi, I've just installed Netscape 6, and now I can't start Orion. It seems that it checks the registry for Version 1.2 of the Java RunTime, but Netscape 6 upgrades it to 1.3. Is there any way around this, since I have other stuff that needs JDK1.3. Thanks.
CMP and Identity columns
I have a table on Microsoft SQL Server that has an identity column such as... CREATE TABLE MyTable ( id int IDENTITY (1, 1) PRIMARY KEY NOT NULL , Name varchar (255) NULL ) I'd like to create a CMP EJB for this table. Is it possible to instruct Orion to not specify a value for the "id" field when inserting a new row and to execute the proper SQL command to get back the "id" of the new row? My classes only have create methods that specify "Name". Here's the message from the exception that occurs... Error creating EntityBean: [ECOLI]Cannot insert explicit value for identity column in table 'GelGroup' when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF. I hope this is on topic. My reseach points to this being a container config thing. Shayne
jdbc connection
hello, i have just been moving a small servlet/jsp app i wrote on nt over to orion on linux (kernel 2.2.14, blackdown jdk 1.2.2RC4). everything has gone well, except i am having some jdbc trouble. on nt i was using sun.jdbc.odbc, but on linux i wanted to try a real type 4 driver. so i got jturbo 2.0 and went to work. i have successfully installed the driver and recompiled my beans/servlets (i know, the driver name should not be in there, but i'm still learning). i have also edited the data-sources.xml file, although i am not very confident about that. when i post a request to my first servlet the app hangs, cpu utilization shoots to 100 and sits there. i eventually have to kill the jvm to get it back. this app was working perfectly using jdbc:odbc on nt/iis/jrun. here is the entry in my data-source.xml file as it currently stands: data-source name="Nexus" class="com.evermind.sql.ConnectionDataSource" location="jdbc/DefaultDS" pooled-location="jdbc/DefaultPooledDS" xa-location="jdbc/xa/DefaultXADS" ejb-location="jdbc/DefaultEJBDS" url="jdbc:JTurbo:167.246.165.222/nexus/sql70=true" connection-driver="com.ashna.jturbo.driver.Driver" username="sa" password="" / can anyone suggest where i may be going wrong or what may be causing the hanging? tia, bradley mclain __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
can't protect servlet in war???
Does anyone know why I can protect a .html file in my WAR but not a servlet? I have the following web.xml which correctly prevents access to all the *.html files in /home, but does not prevent access to the servlet: servlet servlet-nameTest/servlet-name servlet-classtest.TestServlet/servlet-class /servlet servlet-mapping servlet-nameTest/servlet-name url-pattern/test/url-pattern /servlet-mapping security-constraint web-resource-collection web-resource-nameMy collection/web-resource-name url-pattern/home/*/url-pattern url-pattern/test/url-pattern http-method*/http-method auth-constraint role-nameportalusers/role-name /auth-constraint /security-constraint I have tried replacing /test with test, /test/*, test/*, test/ and other variations to no effect. It seems like Orion is not following the URL pattern rules specified in the Servlet 2.2 spec, though I could be wrong. This is similar to the other problem I was having... see the other message. Any ideas? Is anyone creating web applications or is it just me? Kit Cragin VP, Product Development Mongoose Technology, Inc.
Fw: referencing resources within a web application
Anyone have this problem? - Original Message - From: Kit Cragin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:20 PM Subject: referencing resources within a web application I am not sure if the following is an Orion quirk, an oversight in the servlet 2.2 spec, or something that has just not been thought about yet... but I am having a problem with consistently referencing a resource from a .jsp within a web application via Orion. Assume I have a web-app "test" that has the following directory layout: test/ test/WEB-INF/ test/WEB-INF/web.xml test/images/ test/images/test.gif test/stuff/ test/stuff/page.jsp and that page.jsp has this html code: htmlbody !-- #1 -- img src="/images/test.gif"/br/ !-- #2 -- img src="images/test.gif"/br/ !-- #3 -- img src="/test/images/test.gif"/br/ !-- #4 -- img src="../images/test.gif"/br/ !-- #5 -- img src="http://localhost/test/images/test.gif"/ /body/html For the case in which I have test/stuff/page.jsp as a welcome-file in web.xml, img tags #2,3,5 properly display the image when browsing (i.e. http://localhost/test/) For the case in which I directly address page.jsp in the browser (i.e. http://localhost/test/stuff/page.jsp), img tags #3,4,5 work. This is inconsistent. Ideally, I would like #1 or #2 to work in both cases (in fact section 9.4 of the servlet 2.2 spec seems to indicate #1 would work). This would allow for maximum maintainability. For instance, #3 means I have to change all the references in all the JSP's should the name of the application change; #4 means I have to change all the references if I move a JSP within the application. #5, means I have to change all the references if I move application to a different server. Now, most of the time users are redirected to the .jsp files in my architecture anyway, so method #2 is fine. But I still regard this as inadequate since that may not always be the case. Is there something I missed? Any ideas? thanks, Kit Cragin VP of Product Development Mongoose Technology, Inc. www.mongoosetech.com
lack of response
Anyone know why the Orion team does not want to sell their product? It seems crazy to me that one of the few app servers that supports the latest specs to a high degree doesn't respond to any messages. I was initially very impressed with the product, but support is less than zero except for the few kind people who helped me out in this forum. Admittedly, we haven't purchased anything yet - but are 120% in need of something like Orion. A few simple responses would go a long way. Anybody know of a good app server that supports the latest standards like JMS 1.0, servlet 2.2, etc.? I would greatly appreciate it. Kit Cragin VP of Product Development Mongoose Technology, Inc. www.mongoosetech.com
RE: lack of response
Quite simply, they're run off their feet at the moment. I know quite a few of the team and they're currently madly coding, documenting and supporting existing installs - trying to get the best quality 1.0 product out the door they can. For my mind Orion is extremely stable for a product thats 1.0 and has been for ages. The other reason that you're having problems is the general knowledge level of the J2EE platform is VERY LOW due to the fact the specs are constantly being revamped, it's all so new and has a relatively small user base - go try and get support from M$ for ASP ;) I find this forum helpful as long as you're not expecting 20 minute response times. My $20. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kit Cragin Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2000 1:31 To: Orion-Interest Subject: lack of response Anyone know why the Orion team does not want to sell their product? It seems crazy to me that one of the few app servers that supports the latest specs to a high degree doesn't respond to any messages. I was initially very impressed with the product, but support is less than zero except for the few kind people who helped me out in this forum. Admittedly, we haven't purchased anything yet - but are 120% in need of something like Orion. A few simple responses would go a long way. Anybody know of a good app server that supports the latest standards like JMS 1.0, servlet 2.2, etc.? I would greatly appreciate it. Kit Cragin VP of Product Development Mongoose Technology, Inc. www.mongoosetech.com
