Re: Orion and JSP
Well, you haven't said what Orion is telling you, but typically the first thing you do is follow the installation instructions, every step of them, which includes copying tools.jar to $ORION. That's alkl you have to do. One wonders why the three steps are as complicated as they are. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Mon, 13 May 2002, Krishnan, Sri wrote: Hi, I am trying to use jsp s with Orion. Can anyone let me know how do I get the JSP compiled and displayed on the web browser ?. I know that OC4J compiles the JSP, just could not figure out how to get the orion do that. Thanks alot for your help Sri
Re: Cached data in entity beans
Set the orion-ejb-jar.xml to not cache the EJB data. You'll destroy performance this way, but it won't show you cached data. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Sergey Ponomarev wrote: Hi I have several entity beans under Orion 1.5.2. I have a problem with caching data by these beans. I get data from table with EJB. Then I change data through it. But when I retrieve data again (with different bean) I get old data. How can I force EJBs to re-read changed data from table? Sergey
Re: is Orion dead?
...except the wait is due to an internal refactoring that should yield significant benefits. Yourconclusion was predicted by the list in general, but I disagree; the team's still working on Orion, and I figure that people will be more happy once the new versions come out. You'd hope it would be incremental changes as it was in the past (anyone remember the three-versions-a-day times?) but that's simply not realistic considering the changes being put into place. Patience. Enjoy. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Jarrod Roberson wrote: At 03:41 PM 4/11/2002, you wrote: Whats the current state of Ironflare and Orion? Nothing has changed in the 'stable release' of Orion for almost a year, even though there are glaring bugs in http session clustering (not even fixed in 1.5.4) and some significantly lacking components. Ironflare was supposed to be in the pavillion at JavaONE, but oddly they had no write up (apparently they didn't submit one), and didn't actually show up (so their booth was empty). There also seems to be a conspicuous infrequency to their responses here. I know that Oracle 9iAS is evolving and expanding, and I believe that IronFlare is doing a significant amount of work on the 9iAS code base (as consultants?). But whats to become of Orion? It almost appears that Oracel has consumed Orion completely and no development will happen on the old Orion. looks like someone finally figured it out! this is what happens when you get one big customer with a guaranteed revenue stream, can't much blame them myself.
Re: apache front end
Yes, Apache slows Orion down quite a bit. It ends up issuing new requests to Orion, which is really inefficient. When and if Orion gets a mod_jk equivalent, that will change... although adding apache in front will always be a problem. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Tim Courtney wrote: second attempt at sending this. sorry if anyone gets it twice. I'm curious as to anyone else's experience with putting the apache web server as a front end to orion. We basically followed the instructions from this guide http://www.orionsupport.com/articles/apachefrontend.html Although the site does work, the pages that are served from orion seem very very slow. Apache serves its html files very quickly. And when I access the app server without apache in front, orion runs great. The network guys are a bit puzzled and so am I. Is there anything I need to do that isn't in that guide (hosts files etc) I was just wondering if slow performance is normal when apache is put in front. thanks tim
Re: ErrorDocument 500 in Orion?
Yes. See the servlet spec for web.xml. To wit: error-page error-code500/error-code locationmyerrorpage.jsp/location /error-page and error-page exception-typejava.lang.NullPointerException/error-code locationmyNPEhandler.jsp/location /error-page - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Martin Rylander wrote: Is it possible to redirect to a default error page in Orion. Like the ErrorDocument 500 funktion in Apache? thanks - martin
Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, The Boss wrote: I usually build tools to build tools so I mostly can't afford to accept other people's design philosophies. Thus the tools of choice for me are the simplest because they have the least conceptual overhead. Put it like this, I am NOT interested in making the most out of something like Idea, I AM interested in doing three or four or tens times BETTER than Idea in creating J2EE apps. Yes, I can use a tool like 'vi' to build the better stuff, but I can't use Idea to do better than Idea if you see what I mean. Like a dinosaur Idea has made its evolutionary commitment, as have the other dinosaurs of similar ilke. It sounds a lot better than JBuilder though for what it does ... it simply doesn't sound better than my tools ... ;) Spoken (or typed) like a man who's used JBuilder and assumed IDEA's just like it. IDEA doesn't write code for you unless you tell it to. And when you tell it to, it writes the code you told it to. It doesn't generate GUIs that suck. In fact, it doesn't generate GUIs at all. It's an editor. A java editor. Not a crappy IDE like Netbeans or JBuilder. Not an editor with Java features, like VSE or Emacs (both of which I've more than a passing familiarity with.) It's an editor whose designers said, What do Java people need to do? and the editor enables that. It doesn't require the developer to do things. It enables the developer, and gets out of the way. Sorry for the caustic tone, but it sounds like you're rendering judgement without a clue, based on price and misconceptions. regards goffredo Um, dude... you're using a commercial product. Why? Typically, because the value you get out of licensing it gives you a good return on your investment. I *could* use Tomcat instead of Orion... but Tomcat sucks. It's free, but it sucks. If it didn't suck, the return on the investment of time would be worthwhile. I use Orion. (Do the math.) Editors work the same way. I *could* use vi, or emacs (and I used to use vi and emacs), but I found that IDEA boosted my productivity (the return) so much that I was able to justify the cost (the investment) easily and well. And that's after wasting my time with JBuilder, Forte, Kawa, JEdit, Netbeans (which is better than Forte, despite Forte being based on Netbeans, joe, vi, emacs, and Eclipse (and I'm sure I'm leaving some out in this list). If you're going to wave the It's not free flag, run back to Tomcat and Apache where you belong. JBuilder was a waste of time after using it for years, and waking up to the fact that I only used it to package classes anyway. I bet people who are recommending idea are using other people's money to buy idea licenses? What about Simplicity? regards ... From: Eric Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java IDE? Date: 22/03/2002 14:33:50 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Idea for coding, Jbuilder for GUI layout. -Original Message- From: Clay Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:55 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Java IDE? Just a question, any suggestions as to what a good IDE is? I've tried JBuilder, IDEA (I like IDEA) and a few others... any recommendations? Thanks -Clay This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au
Re: idea=$395.00USD
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Maximilian Eberl wrote: You can't afford $400?!? where the hell are all you cheap bastards working that you can't scrape up $400? I think you all need to focus a little harder on working and spending less time looking at porn; I really do not think that this is an appropriate discussion style for a mailing list of developers of whom - I suppose - the majority has an IQ of 90 points or even more. Pardon my elitism, but developers with an IQ of 90 aren't going to be very good developers, and such people *really* want to invest their money in the best tools possible, in order to eke out every last drop of performance they can muster. After all, that's below average. On the other hand, maybe develoeprs with IQ of 90 are part of why our industry has such a crappy success rate. And: there are countries where a developer's salary is about 2-300 USD and students have to live on USD 50 monthly. Note that Intellij has student pricing... -- Maximilian Eberl [ developer ] - netzdenker.de mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netzdenker.de Ludwigstrasse 2 D-67346 Speyer / Germany tel: +49-6232-2602-02 fax: +49-6232-2602-05
Re: idea=$395.00USD was: RE: Java IDE?
On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At about $800.00 AUD (roughly=$395.00 USD) I'd forget all about idea ... what about some ide's with sensible prices? I realised *looks at from header, notes orion-interest* Um, dude... you're using a commercial product. Why? Typically, because the value you get out of licensing it gives you a good return on your investment. I *could* use Tomcat instead of Orion... but Tomcat sucks. It's free, but it sucks. If it didn't suck, the return on the investment of time would be worthwhile. I use Orion. (Do the math.) Editors work the same way. I *could* use vi, or emacs (and I used to use vi and emacs), but I found that IDEA boosted my productivity (the return) so much that I was able to justify the cost (the investment) easily and well. And that's after wasting my time with JBuilder, Forte, Kawa, JEdit, Netbeans (which is better than Forte, despite Forte being based on Netbeans, joe, vi, emacs, and Eclipse (and I'm sure I'm leaving some out in this list). If you're going to wave the It's not free flag, run back to Tomcat and Apache where you belong. JBuilder was a waste of time after using it for years, and waking up to the fact that I only used it to package classes anyway. I bet people who are recommending idea are using other people's money to buy idea licenses? What about Simplicity? regards ... From: Eric Hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Java IDE? Date: 22/03/2002 14:33:50 To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Idea for coding, Jbuilder for GUI layout. -Original Message- From: Clay Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:55 PM To: Orion-Interest Subject: Java IDE? Just a question, any suggestions as to what a good IDE is? I've tried JBuilder, IDEA (I like IDEA) and a few others... any recommendations? Thanks -Clay This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au
Re: Trying to get opensymphony transform tags to work with Orion 1.5.4
I use them. What's the problem? Installation should be straightforward. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Jarrod Roberson wrote: anyone use these custom tags, I am trying to get this installed and can not remember how I did it last time on 1.5.2?
Re: is restarting Orion necessary ??
Note that if you're changing a class while the server is running, you're developing... but a redeployment should clear out caches. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, anandpt wrote: Hi Please let me know if restarting Orion necessary if I change a class when the server is running. I do not want to run my server in development mode regards Sunil
Re: Showing Error Messages
Do you have development mode on in your application? - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Deniz Bocek wrote: Hi all, I have Following problem: If my jsp files or servlets has a error -sytax error or any java error- it shows only The page Could not be displayed. HTTP 500 Internal Server Error. No more than this. normally it should say for example syntax error onlie XX in aaa.jsp some think like this.. What could be the problem? or Is this normal for orion? Thanxx..
Re: Local interfaces difference ???
Because SOMEONE (I'm not going to mention BEA's name) couldn't see their way around actually optimizing that way. There is an actual performance benefit, I suppose, in that local interfaces and home objects don't throw RemoteException, but personally, I think this is a sign that Sun was serious when they put the black hole in .com. - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Greg Matthews wrote: and can anyone shed some light on why this has even been put in the J2EE spec. Visibroker for Java automatically detected if the client was local and then handed out a client stub that did not do marshalling, i.e. performed an in-process local java method call. I would have thought that the whole concept of Local references was just an optimisation that a vendor provided based on common sense. Why is it in the spec? Greg. - Original Message - From: Eddie Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 4:54 AM Subject: Local interfaces difference ??? Hellu, Can someone tell me what the performance boost is when you change your remote and home interfaces to local interfaces with Orion 1.5.4 ? I did this but I know that with Bea you could already indicate if your beans and clients were located on the same machine such that it already had some kind of local workaround. I was wandering how Orion did and does this ?? Eddie _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
