Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-28 Thread Alex 'Kazuma' Garbagnati


Or virtual interfaces running on the same real ether card.

That it's what I was saying.

 Kazuma


Those who don't understand unix are condemned to reinvent it. Poorly. 
(H.Spencer)

Alessandro A. Garbagnati








RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-28 Thread cybermaster

Thanks Jeff, see it now. Had my W2000 machine configured to obtain IP
address automatically, which disabled this option.

--peter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Hubbach
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:23 PM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

I'm on Linux, and you can configure your machine to listen to multiple IPs.
The
NIC is originally configured with one IP when you set it up, but then you
can
go in and tell it to listen to more IPs. You can do this in NT and 2000 as
well. In 2000, you just open up your network settings - TCP/IP
properties -
advanced. Now you can add multiple IPs to listen to. In Linux, I just use
linuxconf. There's a section called IP aliases for Virtual Hosts. In
solaris,
you just put all the IPs you want to listen to in a file that is named after
your interface and is located in /usr/local/if.setup.

Jeff Hubbach.







Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread Jeff Hubbach

Paul,

I'm sorry to say that I have no experience with IIS and configuration issues therein. 
I do know thorugh experience and education that each IP has it's own set of ports. 
That's why I gave my advice below. If you are trying to do something similar to Oliver 
(run Orion on a different IP but same port as IIS), then I would recommend trying my 
suggestion below. If you think you have IIS configured to only listen to one IP, then 
start it up and try accessing the second IP on the same port. If the IIS web site 
comes up, then it is configured to listen to ALL IPs on the box. I would read the 
documentation on IIS at this point. From what little I know of IIS, there are some 
pretty big security holes in it, which I guess if you keep up with the patches can be 
dealt with...

Sorry I could't give you more hands-on experience.

Jeff Hubbach.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 9:59:41 +0800
paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Jeff Hubbach,

Can you send some detail info about IIS set?

01-4-25 12:54:00 You had said£º
Each IP has it's own ports. Therefore, you could have Apache listening on port
80 of IP A, IIS listening on port 80 of IP B, and Orion listening on port 80 of
IP C. It sounds like you don't have IIS configured to listen to only one of the
IPs, so it's binding to both. If you browse to the IP that you want to run
Orion on, does it bring up the IIS site? just curious...

Jeff Hubbach.

Ron van Pol wrote:

 Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
 IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
 since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
IP Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

 Ron

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  Hi,
 
  For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
  x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
  I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
  Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
  same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
  Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
  Thanks,
 
  olivier
 
 
 
 

--
Jeff Hubbach
Internet Developer
New Media Designs, Inc.
www.nmd.com

Sincerely,

paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread paul

Dear Jeff Hubbach,

Thanks for your advice. 

01-4-27 0:00:00 You had said£º
Paul,

I'm sorry to say that I have no experience with IIS and configuration issues therein. 
I do know thorugh experience and education that each IP has it's own set of ports. 
That's why I gave my advice below. If you are trying to do something similar to 
Oliver (run Orion on a different IP but same port as IIS), then I would recommend 
trying my suggestion below. If you think you have IIS configured to only listen to 
one IP, then start it up and try accessing the second IP on the same port. If the IIS 
web site comes up, then it is configured to listen to ALL IPs on the box. I would 
read the documentation on IIS at this point. From what little I know of IIS, there 
are some pretty big security holes in it, which I guess if you keep up with the 
patches can be dealt with...

Sorry I could't give you more hands-on experience.

Jeff Hubbach.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 9:59:41 +0800
paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Jeff Hubbach,

Can you send some detail info about IIS set?

01-4-25 12:54:00 You had said£º
Each IP has it's own ports. Therefore, you could have Apache listening on port
80 of IP A, IIS listening on port 80 of IP B, and Orion listening on port 80 of
IP C. It sounds like you don't have IIS configured to listen to only one of the
IPs, so it's binding to both. If you browse to the IP that you want to run
Orion on, does it bring up the IIS site? just curious...

Jeff Hubbach.

Ron van Pol wrote:

 Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
 IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
 since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
IP Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

 Ron

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  Hi,
 
  For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
  x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
  I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
  Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
  same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
  Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
  Thanks,
 
  olivier
 
 
 
 

--
Jeff Hubbach
Internet Developer
New Media Designs, Inc.
www.nmd.com

Sincerely,

paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Sincerely,

paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread Ron White

I must confess I was incorrect about the port issue. I had forgotten that I
had moved my IIS to a different port when Orion was running. But I found the
solution to the issue as well. Seems IIS listens on all IP by default even
if you tell it to only listen on one port. The following tells how to
disable this behaviour. I have tested it and it works.

Thanks,
Ron White

PS. Please forward to the Orion list since my mailserver can't seem to find
it.


Socket Pooling, Performance, and Security Issues
You might want to disable socket pooling if any of the following are true:

You are not hosting a large number of sites.
You have special security concerns.
Socket pooling will cause IIS 5.0 to listen to all IP addresses, which might
present a possible security risk for secure domains with multiple networks.
In addition, both bandwidth throttling and performance adjustments will
apply to all Web sites configured for the same port, for example port 80. If
you intend to use bandwidth throttling or do performance tuning on a
per-site basis, you will need to disable socket pooling.

To disable socket pooling, type the following at the command prompt:

cscript c:\inetpub\adminscripts\adsutil.vbs set w3svc/disablesocketpooling
true

The command prompt will reply:

disablesocketpooling : (BOOLEAN) True

Thanks,
Ron White






RE: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread cybermaster

Out of curiosity: Jeff, are you using a multi-homed machine? So far I have
not run across a network driver that filters all incoming packets from a
single network card to resolve them into various IPs, but I'm always open to
learn of new stuff.

One network adapter - one IPaddress (although I've heard of drivers which
send out fake IPs, but can't receive them)

--peter
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  Hi,
 
  For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT).
x.x.x.20 and
  x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
  I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port
80.
  Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them
at the
  same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
  Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
  Thanks,
 
  olivier
 
 
 
 

--
Jeff Hubbach
Internet Developer
New Media Designs, Inc.
www.nmd.com

Sincerely,

paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Sincerely,

paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread Jeff Hubbach

I'm on Linux, and you can configure your machine to listen to multiple IPs. The
NIC is originally configured with one IP when you set it up, but then you can
go in and tell it to listen to more IPs. You can do this in NT and 2000 as
well. In 2000, you just open up your network settings - TCP/IP properties -
advanced. Now you can add multiple IPs to listen to. In Linux, I just use
linuxconf. There's a section called IP aliases for Virtual Hosts. In solaris,
you just put all the IPs you want to listen to in a file that is named after
your interface and is located in /usr/local/if.setup.

Jeff Hubbach.

cybermaster wrote:

 Out of curiosity: Jeff, are you using a multi-homed machine? So far I have
 not run across a network driver that filters all incoming packets from a
 single network card to resolve them into various IPs, but I'm always open to
 learn of new stuff.

 One network adapter - one IPaddress (although I've heard of drivers which
 send out fake IPs, but can't receive them)

--
Jeff Hubbach
Internet Developer
New Media Designs, Inc.
www.nmd.com







Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread Iain McClure

Just seen this post (so many to look through!), and I essentially agree with
Jeff.

I would agree that the error is probably happening because IIS is binding to
the same IP address as Orion.

I've done this before, and this does prevent multiple web servers from
listening on the same port.


Regards,

Iain.



On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 9:59:41 +0800
paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Jeff Hubbach,

Can you send some detail info about IIS set?

01-4-25 12:54:00 You had said£º
Each IP has it's own ports. Therefore, you could have Apache listening on
port
80 of IP A, IIS listening on port 80 of IP B, and Orion listening on port
80 of
IP C. It sounds like you don't have IIS configured to listen to only one
of the
IPs, so it's binding to both. If you browse to the IP that you want to run
Orion on, does it bring up the IIS site? just curious...

Jeff Hubbach.








Re: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread Iain McClure


Just started subscribing to the interest group.

Forgive me if talking nonsense, as I've not even used Orion yet, but I can
definitely run IIS 5.0 and Apache web server on the same machine (virtual
hosts setup for apache, IIS as the 'real' machine name).

They both listen on port 80, and I can access home pages via a browser
successfully.

IIS 5.0 listens on port 80 by default (set in the website application
settings - I don't know what happens if the port is left blank though!).

Apache listens on *all* ports by default, but I've configured my virtual
hosts to also listen on port 80.


Therefore, it is my opinion that multiple web servers can be started on the
same TCP port (for different, even virtual, IP addresses).

Once I start using Orion, I'll let you know if I can run both at the same
time successfully.


Regards,

Iain.


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From: elephantwalker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Orion-Interest [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Peter,

 this is from Kabir's book Red Hat Linux 7 Server, page 214,

 The first step in creating an IP alias is to determine if you have the IP
 alias module loaded with the kernel [ip_alias.o]...

 In linux you can definetly use multiple ip addresses with a single network
 interface card. If one operating system can do it, I bet the others can
 also.

 Regards,

 the elephantwalker





 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of cybermaster
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:06 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Out of curiosity: Jeff, are you using a multi-homed machine? So far I have
 not run across a network driver that filters all incoming packets from a
 single network card to resolve them into various IPs, but I'm always open
to
 learn of new stuff.

 One network adapter - one IPaddress (although I've heard of drivers which
 send out fake IPs, but can't receive them)

 --peter
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
   Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
   To: Orion-Interest
   Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
  
  
   Hi,
  
   For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT).
 x.x.x.20 and
   x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts
file)
   I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on
port
 80.
   Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them
 at the
   same time (they complain that the address is in use).
  
   Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
  
   Thanks,
  
   olivier
  
  
  
  
 
 --
 Jeff Hubbach
 Internet Developer
 New Media Designs, Inc.
 www.nmd.com
 
 Sincerely,
 
 paul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 

 Sincerely,

 paul
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]










Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-27 Thread Tim Endres

 I've done this before, and this does prevent multiple web servers from
 listening on the same port.
 
 I think that this is definitely a problem. A virtual IP does not have it's 
 own port, but it is sharing the same port with the main ip.
 
 If a machine has main ip 1.2.3.4 and virtual 1.2.3.5 and 1.2.3.6, if I set 
 a web server on port 80 on 1.2.3.4, also the other two ip address will be 
 listening on port 80.

There is no 1.2.3.5 or 1.2.3.6, unless you have additional interfaces, which
are either virtual interfaces providing additional IPs on a single card, or
multiple cards.

 This, obviously, unless you have 2 different network cards on the system.

Or virtual interfaces running on the same real ether card.

tim.





RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-26 Thread Ron van Pol

Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Hi,

 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).

 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

 Thanks,

 olivier









RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-26 Thread Ron White

You can use the same port on different IPs!! I know this for a fact since I
have it configured on 4 different machines.

Thanks,
Ron White

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron van Pol
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:24 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Hi,

 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).

 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

 Thanks,

 olivier










Re: Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-26 Thread paul

Dear Jeff Hubbach,

Can you send some detail info about IIS set?

01-4-25 12:54:00 You had said£º
Each IP has it's own ports. Therefore, you could have Apache listening on port
80 of IP A, IIS listening on port 80 of IP B, and Orion listening on port 80 of
IP C. It sounds like you don't have IIS configured to listen to only one of the
IPs, so it's binding to both. If you browse to the IP that you want to run
Orion on, does it bring up the IIS site? just curious...

Jeff Hubbach.

Ron van Pol wrote:

 Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
 IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
 since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
 Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

 Ron

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  Hi,
 
  For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
  x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
  I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
  Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
  same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
  Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
  Thanks,
 
  olivier
 
 
 
 

--
Jeff Hubbach
Internet Developer
New Media Designs, Inc.
www.nmd.com

Sincerely,

paul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Ron White

What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of different ones
pertaining to different config files.

Thanks,
Ron White

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


Hi,

For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
same time (they complain that the address is in use).

Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

Thanks,

olivier






RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Ron White

Ok that means that IIS is grabbing both addresses. In the properties page of
IIS, you need to make sure that it is only set for your .20 address. See the
attached doc for what I mean.

Thanks,
Ron White

-Original Message-
From: olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 8:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


this is the error message I have:
Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind


-Original Message-
From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of different ones
pertaining to different config files.

Thanks,
Ron White

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


Hi,

For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
same time (they complain that the address is in use).

Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

Thanks,

olivier




 example.doc


RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Paul Medcraft


You can't have two applications on one machine listening on the same port,
although they could both use the same IP. Try setting them both to use x.20
and put orion on a different port.

Paul 

 -Original Message-
 From: olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2001 13:30
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 this is the error message I have:
 Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of 
 different ones
 pertaining to different config files.
 
 Thanks,
 Ron White
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 Hi,
 
 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). 
 x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 
 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both 
 of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
 Thanks,
 
 olivier
 
 
 

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RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Hani Suleiman

Sounds like either both machines are binding to the same IP, or one or the
other is binding to the stack and not the IP you're specifying.

Hani

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, olivier wrote:

 this is the error message I have:
 Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of different ones
 pertaining to different config files.
 
 Thanks,
 Ron White
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 Hi,
 
 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
 Thanks,
 
 olivier
 
 
 
 





RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread olivier

this is the error message I have:
Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind


-Original Message-
From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
To: Orion-Interest
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of different ones
pertaining to different config files.

Thanks,
Ron White

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


Hi,

For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
same time (they complain that the address is in use).

Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

Thanks,

olivier






RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Ron van Pol

Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Hi,

 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).

 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

 Thanks,

 olivier









RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread olivier

I wanted to create virtual host to avoid having to type IP:port in the
browser.
I know it works if I use different ports. I was using loopback (127.0.0.1:80
and 127.0.0.1:8080). But I would like to avoid that.
In IIS, you can have 2 sites running on the same port, as long as they have
2 different addresses.

But it looks like it is something I have done wrong anyway...can't see what
though.

Thanks,

Olivier

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Medcraft
Sent: 25 April 2001 14:16
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host



You can't have two applications on one machine listening on the same port,
although they could both use the same IP. Try setting them both to use x.20
and put orion on a different port.

Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2001 13:30
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 this is the error message I have:
 Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind


 -Original Message-
 From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of
 different ones
 pertaining to different config files.

 Thanks,
 Ron White

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Hi,

 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT).
 x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21
 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both
 of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).

 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

 Thanks,

 olivier




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Interactive Investor International is a leading UK Internet personal
finance service that provides individuals with the capability to identify,
compare, monitor and buy online a number of financial products and services.

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Re: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Boris Erukhimov

See http://www.orionsupport.com/articles/vhosts.html

olivier wrote:
 
 I wanted to create virtual host to avoid having to type IP:port in the
 browser.
 I know it works if I use different ports. I was using loopback (127.0.0.1:80
 and 127.0.0.1:8080). But I would like to avoid that.
 In IIS, you can have 2 sites running on the same port, as long as they have
 2 different addresses.
 
 But it looks like it is something I have done wrong anyway...can't see what
 though.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Olivier
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Medcraft
 Sent: 25 April 2001 14:16
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 You can't have two applications on one machine listening on the same port,
 although they could both use the same IP. Try setting them both to use x.20
 and put orion on a different port.
 
 Paul
 
  -Original Message-
  From: olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 25 April 2001 13:30
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  this is the error message I have:
  Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
  To: Orion-Interest
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of
  different ones
  pertaining to different config files.
 
  Thanks,
  Ron White
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
  To: Orion-Interest
  Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
  Hi,
 
  For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT).
  x.x.x.20 and
  x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
  I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21
  on port 80.
  Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both
  of them at the
  same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
  Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
  Thanks,
 
  olivier
 
 
 
 
 http://www.iii.co.uk
 Interactive Investor International is a leading UK Internet personal
 finance service that provides individuals with the capability to identify,
 compare, monitor and buy online a number of financial products and services.
 
 Interactive Investor Trading Limited, a subsidiary of Interactive Investor
 International plc, is regulated by the SFA.




RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread olivier

Now I have tried with a different port (IIS is on 80)
web-site host=x.x.x.20 port=8080 display-name=Default Orion WebSite
virtual-hosts=mySite.Java

I still have this JVM_Bind error, but if I type http://mySite.java:8080, I
get something.
...
still don't see what is wrong.

How many file should I have to modify?
So far, I have:
default-web-site.xml
my-web-site.xml (to make sure that they don't use the same)
hosts (NT)
TCP/IP configuration

Olivier

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron van Pol
Sent: 25 April 2001 16:24
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host


Seems to me that there can run only one process on a particular port. Once
IIS is already running on port 80 Orion will be unable to bind to that port
since it is already in use by IIS. Same goes if you start orion before IIS.
Then IIS, will not be able to start since Orion already has port 80 in use.

Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 9:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host


 Hi,

 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).

 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???

 Thanks,

 olivier










RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host

2001-04-25 Thread Hani Suleiman

Sounds like either both machines are binding to the same IP, or one or the
other is binding to the stack and not the IP you're specifying.

Hani

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, olivier wrote:

 this is the error message I have:
 Error starting HTTP-Server: Address in use: JVM_Bind
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ron White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 25 April 2001 13:22
 To: Orion-Interest
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 What exactly is the error message? There are a couple of different ones
 pertaining to different config files.
 
 Thanks,
 Ron White
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of olivier
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:51 AM
 To: Orion-Interest
 Subject: IIS, Orion, virtual host
 
 
 Hi,
 
 For some reason, I have set 2 IP addresse to my machine (NT). x.x.x.20 and
 x.x.x.21. (modification in the connection setting and the hosts file)
 I have configured IIs to use x.20, on port 80, and Orion x.21 on port 80.
 Is is because the port are the same that I can't start both of them at the
 same time (they complain that the address is in use).
 
 Or is it possible and I don't know how to do it ???
 
 Thanks,
 
 olivier