[osdcmy-public] Re: Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1
there are rolap and molap besides the generic olap . rolap handles larger transactions volumes but molap is faster. at the moment, adempiere uses postgresql / oracle / mysql as the database. the dimension is only a concept that it uses but the data is still in a sql database. there are probably lots more tweaks to be done at the database layer so that it handles the concept of dimension better. 1000+ concurrent users ? that is huge. would make for an awesome project to build a massive multiuser online enterprise framework that handles 1 million concurrent users. from an accounting / operation user point of view - the first thing that needs to be overhauled in adempiere is standardisation to master-child and grids. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote: > OLAP is known to have performance problem on update, could this be the > reason why Adempiere does not scale well over 1000+ users? > > Azrul > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah < > rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> there is also another bit that i have discovered about adempiere - data is >> organised using the concept of dimensions - much like in olap cubes. >> theoretically this means in combination with the rad design, you can also >> rad the data as well without worrying about tables and fields. >> >> rolap + crud makes for some really rad application framework >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA > > wrote: >> >>> Salam All, >>> >>> Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen >>> to you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha! >>> I've just written something on Adempiere [ >>> http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html] >>> . Please have a look and tell me what you think. >>> >>> >>> Azrul Sensei >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1
OLAP is known to have performance problem on update, could this be the reason why Adempiere does not scale well over 1000+ users? Azrul On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: > there is also another bit that i have discovered about adempiere - data is > organised using the concept of dimensions - much like in olap cubes. > theoretically this means in combination with the rad design, you can also > rad the data as well without worrying about tables and fields. > > rolap + crud makes for some really rad application framework > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA > wrote: > >> Salam All, >> >> Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen to >> you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha! >> I've just written something on Adempiere [ >> http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html] >> . Please have a look and tell me what you think. >> >> >> Azrul Sensei >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1
there is also another bit that i have discovered about adempiere - data is organised using the concept of dimensions - much like in olap cubes. theoretically this means in combination with the rad design, you can also rad the data as well without worrying about tables and fields. rolap + crud makes for some really rad application framework On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote: > Salam All, > > Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen to > you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha! > I've just written something on Adempiere [ > http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html] > . Please have a look and tell me what you think. > > > Azrul Sensei > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Mesyuarat Pembentukan BSD Malaysia & MySecurity Community
Semase MyGOSSCon yg lepas, dah ade booth OSCONF.. Sy ade tanye2, rasenye main komiti dah ade, dan dorg dah start gather speakers.. Regards, Nik M Adam Hafiz 2009/11/18 Mohamad Farhan > komiti untok OSCONF 2010 dah ade ke? > > 2009/11/16 Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad > > good idea. get ready mr fadli and *BSD >> >> 2009/11/16 Harisfazillah Jamel >> >>> >>> Kita perlu rancang aktiviti-aktiviti yang kemudiannya kita boleh >>> ketengahkan pada MSC OSCONF 2010 nanti. Road To MSC OSCONF 2010 sudah >>> bermula >>> Ingat hari Hackathon ramai bertumpu kepada track Mahmod. Kena kembangkan >>> lagi >>> track tu jadi showcase kepada MySecurity. >>> >>> 2009/11/15 Mohd Fazli Azran : >>> > >>> > Pebentangan mesyuarat MySecurity & BSD Malaysia Community >>> > >>> > Kedatangan >>> > 1) Haris >>> > 2) Azhar >>> > 3) Saidi >>> > 4) Syukor >>> > 5) Faisal >>> > 6) Arafat >>> > 7) Fazli >>> > 8) Irwan >>> > 9) Ejat >>> > >>> > Security Community >>> > >>> > Agenda >>> > 1) Mailing-list Community Security >>> > 2) Laporan Community Security >>> > 3) make business for community for survival >>> > 4) Security Community Vision >>> > 5) FreeBSD community akan menngetuai Security komuniti. >>> > 6) Channel kan ke Mampu (GCERT) & MyCERT untuk keselamatan cyber >>> > 7) Membuat link dengan agensi kerajaan >>> > 8) Maklumbalas dari MyCert & GCert >>> > 9) Mendapat polisi Kerajaan & Universiti mengenai polisi dan sempadan >>> > mengenai keselamatan Cyber. >>> > >>> > BSD Malaysia >>> > >>> > Agenda >>> > 1) Perancangan membuat BSD Malaysia >>> > 2) Memanggil semua ahli BSD Malaysia >>> > 3) Membuat BSD rasmi >>> > 4) Mendapat maklum balas dari MyBSD Project >>> > 5) Server untuk komuniti menggunakan MyREN >>> > 6) Lesen Majalah BSD >>> > 7) Membuat support team untuk BSD project >>> > 6) Membuat latihan BSD untuk rakyat/OKU >>> > >>> > Mohd Fazli Azran >>> > PCBSD Malaysia >>> > MySecurity >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Bringing Adempiere's concept to Plain Old Java -1
Salam All, Is it just me or did time just freeze on this mailing list. What happen to you guys! Wake up already! Hahahaha! I've just written something on Adempiere [ http://ejn3.blogspot.com/2009/11/adempiere-references-in-plain-old-java.html] . Please have a look and tell me what you think. Azrul Sensei --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Mesyuarat Pembentukan BSD Malaysia & MySecurity Community
komiti untok OSCONF 2010 dah ade ke? 2009/11/16 Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad > good idea. get ready mr fadli and *BSD > > 2009/11/16 Harisfazillah Jamel > >> >> Kita perlu rancang aktiviti-aktiviti yang kemudiannya kita boleh >> ketengahkan pada MSC OSCONF 2010 nanti. Road To MSC OSCONF 2010 sudah >> bermula >> Ingat hari Hackathon ramai bertumpu kepada track Mahmod. Kena kembangkan >> lagi >> track tu jadi showcase kepada MySecurity. >> >> 2009/11/15 Mohd Fazli Azran : >> > >> > Pebentangan mesyuarat MySecurity & BSD Malaysia Community >> > >> > Kedatangan >> > 1) Haris >> > 2) Azhar >> > 3) Saidi >> > 4) Syukor >> > 5) Faisal >> > 6) Arafat >> > 7) Fazli >> > 8) Irwan >> > 9) Ejat >> > >> > Security Community >> > >> > Agenda >> > 1) Mailing-list Community Security >> > 2) Laporan Community Security >> > 3) make business for community for survival >> > 4) Security Community Vision >> > 5) FreeBSD community akan menngetuai Security komuniti. >> > 6) Channel kan ke Mampu (GCERT) & MyCERT untuk keselamatan cyber >> > 7) Membuat link dengan agensi kerajaan >> > 8) Maklumbalas dari MyCert & GCert >> > 9) Mendapat polisi Kerajaan & Universiti mengenai polisi dan sempadan >> > mengenai keselamatan Cyber. >> > >> > BSD Malaysia >> > >> > Agenda >> > 1) Perancangan membuat BSD Malaysia >> > 2) Memanggil semua ahli BSD Malaysia >> > 3) Membuat BSD rasmi >> > 4) Mendapat maklum balas dari MyBSD Project >> > 5) Server untuk komuniti menggunakan MyREN >> > 6) Lesen Majalah BSD >> > 7) Membuat support team untuk BSD project >> > 6) Membuat latihan BSD untuk rakyat/OKU >> > >> > Mohd Fazli Azran >> > PCBSD Malaysia >> > MySecurity >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: OpenOffice.org Mouse
it still on development.. if refer to the main webpage it will be release in around February 2009.. mungkin aku mintak jadi reseller mouse ni dalam Malaysia :p Eric Yeoh wrote: > Where can I get it locally? > > Eric > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini < > jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> anyone interested? >> >> >> http://gajet.net/2009/11/warmouse-memperkenalkan-openofficemouse-dengan-18-butang/ >> >> > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: OpenOffice.org Mouse
Where can I get it locally? Eric On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini < jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > anyone interested? > > > http://gajet.net/2009/11/warmouse-memperkenalkan-openofficemouse-dengan-18-butang/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: TAKSU
nice quote of the day :) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote: > All this talk about kiasu, I propose replacing kiasu with TAKSU (not > taksub). which stands for > > Think big > Act and react fast > Kick butt > Shout loudly > Ultimately share > > Azrul Sensei > > > > -- _ http://blog.myinfinityx.com _ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] TAKSU
All this talk about kiasu, I propose replacing kiasu with TAKSU (not taksub). which stands for Think big Act and react fast Kick butt Shout loudly Ultimately share Azrul Sensei --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
hi Red1, point taken, Adempiere is not 'yours', but I perceive you as its symbolic head, and definitely someone that has major contribs. to drive its success... and yes, I'm still guessing ;-) On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:02 PM, red1 wrote: > > You are a devil alright and mostly right! > One little point though is that please do not associate adempiere as > mine, irrespective of my neckhold on it. I very much wants it to be a > Malaysian pride and might. All your ideas can make it happen faster. > > I this week am at Park Royal attending the International Software > Testing Qualification Board and met up with a very interesting contact > that can turn the whole project worldwide around. Strange how Karma > works, so i would leave it mysteriously at that :) (to leave the devil > guessing) > > Boh Yap wrote: >> hi all, >> >> yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open >> community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in >> this thread (see last few posts ;-) >> https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc >> >> Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu' attitude! From my >> experiance, this 'kiasu' atitude is not a monopoly of Malaysia or even >> Singapore. This exists even for example, with China >> >> Red1, again I want to play devil's advocate, >> >> 1. you can't build a national IT policy on just ONE PRODUCT >> ALONE, ERP, altho it has wide applications (yes, any business >> entity would require an ERP, but you're missing many other >> opportunities... read on) >> >> 2. I would also like to push the healthcare IT agenda, for MSC8, the >> following reasons: >> - Everybody needs healthcare, more so with our deteriorating >> health standards, and hence a very wide market. >> >> - Healthcare is not a price sensitive market, when did you last >> bargain with yr doctor?, as opposed to someone bargaining for a >> cheaper ERP solution.. >> >> - There is a wide range of high-end services under the healthcare >> umbrella, hence investment/biz development opportunity.. >> ie: Medical imaging, in today's Star Clinical Trials - all highly IT >> intensive. >> >> - We have an opportunity to be world-class, especially in LHR >> (Lifelong Health Record) by leveraging(reviving?) our smartcard >> NRIC. >> >> - and to correct a perception - healthcare is not ERP. Although >> there is some overlap, like in areas of inventory, asset >> management, logistics, the rest are not. >> >> - Potential to provide world-class services, Healthcare has some >> very strong and complex standards, HL7, Snomed, LOINC, ... >> and experts and solutions for these earn big consultg bucks.. >> >> - Huge potential to do joint research with foreign Uni's, there are >> FOSS projects from anything like Medical Imaging (think, 3D >> games applied to medical), to LHR done by Uni like UCLA, MIT, >> Harvard Med School, Imperial College etc... >> >> PS http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/Enhanced+Health+Services >> If you go to the above URL, you'll see that MSC talks about Health >> Services and has a list of 'services' - LHR is one of them! >> But other than MyHealth, the rest is vapourware? >> >> And my question of MyHealth: is this the only outcome of the $$M >> spent on the 'telemedicine flagship'?, its nothing more than a >> brochureware portal! >> Its forums are unmoderated, nobody seems to be answering, >> and its littered with MLM guys pushing bogus? healthcare >> products... >> >> >> 3. Lets not also forget the 'sexy' (in politicians and investors mind) >> sectors like BioTech and GreenTech. (And these sectors have $$) >> Both these sectors require a lot of IT, and to leave this out of a >> MSC8 plan is just dumb. Here's why we shld work with these >> parties. >> >> Biotech - >> relies heavilly on genetics engineering, and genetic sequencing >> and workg with genetic database would not be possible without >> IT. >> Also sophisticated Lab machinery depends heavilly on >> computer control snd programming, again requiring IT skills. >> >> GreenTech - >> Also requires a lot of IT, for the initial CAD/CAM engineering >> design & fabrication (CNC (Computerised Numerial Control) >> machine tools, robotics, etc...) >> Also most GreenTech, be it Water Recycling, Wind Energy, >> etc... require a lot of automated controls, needing expertise in >> embedded systems design and programming... again another >> aspect of IT! >> >> 4. Education: always been my bitch and pitch... >> We HAVE TO revamp education, otherwise ALL of the above >> including ERP is a pipe dream! The original MSC failed largely >> because of education (can't produce the manpower, where are >> the 1,000 Java programmers, the 80 PHDs in data/radio >> comm.),
[osdcmy-public] Re: Redhat Invite you to... Red Hat Virtual Experience...
menarik ni.. tapi Gecko jugak hebat.. muahahaha ... To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. Selasih Net Enterprise "we never sleep, we just park our head" Sent from Petaling Jaya, Malaysia On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:21 AM, rafe azsnal wrote: > > http://www-2.virtualevents365.com/rhexp/ > > Welcome > Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, an event > focused on Red Hat Enterprise Linux solutions, including > virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your > desk. Your couch. Your coffee shop. Anywhere you are. You can also > participate in chats with business leaders, executives, key > developers, customers, and strategic partners. Learn how you can scale > to new demands, drive innovation, and build mission-critical > applications, all without sacrificing performance, security, or > functionality. > Enter > > Attend keynote sessions for executive insight into future direction of > the Red Hat Enterprise Linux roadmap. Hear from Red Hat executives, > including Navin Thadani, and find out what customers are saying about > Red Hat in their organizations. > Discover > > Learn what's on the horizon from Red Hat and industry > partners—innovations in Red Hat Enterprise Linux, tools, security, and > deployment in the cloud. Get advice on how to extract more value from > existing systems, and increase your capabilities through open source > virtualization, infrastructure and management technologies. > Advance > > How can Red Hat transform your business or help fulfill your mission? > We have a few ideas, and so do our customers. Learn best practices, > experience demos, and swap stories. See how open source solutions can > give you a business advantage in the real world. > > > Founded in 1993, Red Hat is the leader in enterprise Linux and the > most recognized open source brand in the world. We serve global > enterprises with technology and services made possible by the open > source model. Solutions include Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Red Hat > Enterprise Middleware, and a broad range of management and services, > including consulting, 24x7 support, and Red Hat Network. Red Hat's > global training program operates worldwide and features the Red Hat > Certified Engineer (RHCE), the global standard Linux certification. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: OpenOffice.org Mouse
Untuk OpenOffice mungkin boleh dipertimbangkan jika selalu membuat kerja-kerja opis, buat kertas kerja. Kerja macam aku yang selalu ngadap windows dan linux, jarang benar guna tikus... dalam windows pun guna cli banyak... rasa cam cepat guna kibod jerk kalo budak teknikal nih. Thanks. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini < jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote: > > anyone interested? > > > http://gajet.net/2009/11/warmouse-memperkenalkan-openofficemouse-dengan-18-butang/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] OpenOffice.org Mouse
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[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Huhu.. dah request dah sebelum neh.. x dpt2 lg.. ~___~ Regards, Nik M Adam Hafiz M : +6017 916 3208 F : +603 51910755 www.f.n0rd.org On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Harith wrote: > Alahai, sori la kwn2...aku dah habis dah..tak tau kwn2 yg lain > > aku rasa kalau korang request kat google lama niInsyallah dah dpt dah > kot.. > cuba la.. > > https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/ > > > -- > Harith Dawi > > http://harithdawi.com > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Adam Othman wrote: > >> Aiyak... no more left ka? huhu~ >> if anybody still have a slot.. adam0th...@gmail.com >> >> TQ >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM, E A Faisal wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the nomination. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >>> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> finish already lah bro.. محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad < myusni...@opensource.org.my> wrote: > invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my > > TQ > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < > creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me. >> done finish already. >> thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave. >> >> Reply >> Edit >> >> >> >> >> People my nominated: >> >>- hadri.hi...@gmail.com >>- trunas...@gmail.com >>- ridzwa...@gmail.com >>- tipswan...@gmail.com >>- eafai...@gmail.com >>- mynameisam...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> regards, >> >> >> محمد شافق بن مذلي >> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >> >> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >> >> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood < >> mynameisam...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> invite me please >>> >>> mynameisam...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On 11/16/09, E A Faisal wrote: My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you. > > have a nice day! > > 2 account more! > > محمد شافق بن مذلي > Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli > > 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C > 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD > > Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en wrote: > >> add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with >>> your google wave account. >>> Thank you. >>> >>> 3 account's more! >>> >>> >>> محمد شافق بن مذلي >>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >>> >>> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >>> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >>> >>> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah < >>> trunas...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> add me.. *trunas...@gmail.com* On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi < hadri.hi...@gmail.com> wrote: > count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com. > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel < > linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu >> tunggu baru >> dapat jemput orang lain? >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq >> wrote: >> > >> > salam >> > >> > hi everyone, >> > >> > i got 5 google wave to invite. >> > >> > pls list down your email. >> > >> > Tq. >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- # uname -a NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Alahai, sori la kwn2...aku dah habis dah..tak tau kwn2 yg lain aku rasa kalau korang request kat google lama niInsyallah dah dpt dah kot.. cuba la.. https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/ -- Harith Dawi http://harithdawi.com On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Adam Othman wrote: > Aiyak... no more left ka? huhu~ > if anybody still have a slot.. adam0th...@gmail.com > > TQ > > Regards, > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM, E A Faisal wrote: > >> Thanks for the nomination. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> finish already lah bro.. >>> >>> >>> محمد شافق بن مذلي >>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >>> >>> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >>> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >>> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad < >>> myusni...@opensource.org.my> wrote: >>> invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my TQ On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me. > done finish already. > thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave. > > Reply > Edit > > > > > People my nominated: > >- hadri.hi...@gmail.com >- trunas...@gmail.com >- ridzwa...@gmail.com >- tipswan...@gmail.com >- eafai...@gmail.com >- mynameisam...@gmail.com > > > > regards, > > > محمد شافق بن مذلي > Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli > > 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C > 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD > > Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood > wrote: > >> invite me please >> >> mynameisam...@gmail.com >> >> >> On 11/16/09, E A Faisal wrote: >>> >>> My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >>> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you. have a nice day! 2 account more! محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en wrote: > add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < > creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with >> your google wave account. >> Thank you. >> >> 3 account's more! >> >> >> محمد شافق بن مذلي >> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >> >> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >> >> >> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah < >> trunas...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> add me.. >>> >>> *trunas...@gmail.com* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi < >>> hadri.hi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel < linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu > tunggu baru > dapat jemput orang lain? > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq > wrote: > > > > salam > > > > hi everyone, > > > > i got 5 google wave to invite. > > > > pls list down your email. > > > > Tq. > > > > > > > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> # uname -a >>> NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 >>> >>> bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC >>> i386 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > > Never Underestimated People Stupidity > http://www.se7enet.co.cc > > >
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Aiyak... no more left ka? huhu~ if anybody still have a slot.. adam0th...@gmail.com TQ Regards, On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:12 PM, E A Faisal wrote: > Thanks for the nomination. > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < > creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> finish already lah bro.. >> >> >> محمد شافق بن مذلي >> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >> >> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >> >> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad < >> myusni...@opensource.org.my> wrote: >> >>> invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my >>> >>> TQ >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >>> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me. done finish already. thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave. Reply Edit People my nominated: - hadri.hi...@gmail.com - trunas...@gmail.com - ridzwa...@gmail.com - tipswan...@gmail.com - eafai...@gmail.com - mynameisam...@gmail.com regards, محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood wrote: > invite me please > > mynameisam...@gmail.com > > > On 11/16/09, E A Faisal wrote: >> >> My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you. >>> >>> have a nice day! >>> >>> 2 account more! >>> >>> محمد شافق بن مذلي >>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >>> >>> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >>> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >>> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en wrote: >>> add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with > your google wave account. > Thank you. > > 3 account's more! > > > محمد شافق بن مذلي > Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli > > 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C > 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD > > > Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah < > trunas...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> add me.. >> >> *trunas...@gmail.com* >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi < >> hadri.hi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel < >>> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu tunggu baru dapat jemput orang lain? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq wrote: > > salam > > hi everyone, > > i got 5 google wave to invite. > > pls list down your email. > > Tq. > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> # uname -a >> NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 >> >> bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC >> i386 >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > -- Never Underestimated People Stupidity http://www.se7enet.co.cc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Nor Amin bin Mahmood > Bachelor (Hons) of Information & Communication Technology (ICT), > Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS, > Bandar Sri Iskandar, > 31750 Tronoh, Perak. > > Mobile:: -017-5652989 > E-mail:: mynameisam...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join O
[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
Not just that, lets not hope that they are doing something stupid like, supporting 3 strike law, or support DRM On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 20:10 +0800, E A Faisal wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah > wrote: > the only way that a software can be patented in malaysia if it > is an embedded algorithm in an appliance or gadget. something > like if the algorithm becomes part of the circuits. > > else software patents and business method patents are not > recognised in malaysia. > > Luckily we're not recognising software patent. I strongly oppose > software patent. I have no problem with software copyright though. > Guess we need to be more vocal in opposing software patent so that > policy makers don't make a wrong move to recognising it. > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Google Wave invitation
Thanks for the nomination. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Muhammad Syafiq wrote: > finish already lah bro.. > > > محمد شافق بن مذلي > Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli > > 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C > 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD > > Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad < > myusni...@opensource.org.my> wrote: > >> invite myusnizam at opensource dot org dot my >> >> TQ >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> okay guys, here ppl who's invited by me. >>> done finish already. >>> thank you, btw, i wish u guys will enjoy with google wave. >>> >>> Reply >>> Edit >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> People my nominated: >>> >>>- hadri.hi...@gmail.com >>>- trunas...@gmail.com >>>- ridzwa...@gmail.com >>>- tipswan...@gmail.com >>>- eafai...@gmail.com >>>- mynameisam...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> >>> محمد شافق بن مذلي >>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >>> >>> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >>> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >>> >>> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Amin Mahmood >>> wrote: >>> invite me please mynameisam...@gmail.com On 11/16/09, E A Faisal wrote: > > My Syafiq, pls add me as well eafai...@gmail.com > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < > creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> okay mr. se7en. 1 google wave account done invited to you. >> >> have a nice day! >> >> 2 account more! >> >> محمد شافق بن مذلي >> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >> >> 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C >> 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD >> >> Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:49 PM, se7en wrote: >> >>> add me also.. ridzwa...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >>> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> okay, hadri and encik arafat done invited. have a nice day with your google wave account. Thank you. 3 account's more! محمد شافق بن مذلي Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli 9C47 367F 03AE 5CCF EB9C 693F 4FCA 7273 A3C3 20BD Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ahmad Arafat Abdullah < trunas...@gmail.com> wrote: > add me.. > > *trunas...@gmail.com* > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:22 PM, hadri hilmi < > hadri.hi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> count me, hadri.hi...@gmail.com. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel < >> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Saya sudah ada. Sekadar hendak bertanya berapa lama perlu tunggu >>> baru >>> dapat jemput orang lain? >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Syafiq >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > salam >>> > >>> > hi everyone, >>> > >>> > i got 5 google wave to invite. >>> > >>> > pls list down your email. >>> > >>> > Tq. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > > # uname -a > NetBSD 5.0 NetBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Apr 26 18:50:08 UTC 2009 > > bui...@b6.netbsd.org:/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/i386/200904260229Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-5-0-RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC > i386 > > > > > > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Never Underestimated People Stupidity >>> http://www.se7enet.co.cc >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Nor Amin bin Mahmood Bachelor (Hons) of Information & Communication Technology (ICT), Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS, Bandar Sri Iskandar, 31750 Tronoh, Perak. Mobile:: -017-5652989 E-mail:: mynameisam...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more o
[osdcmy-public] Re: M$ patent SUDO.. so what now? ( for those who use sudo as their administration tools )
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah < rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: > the only way that a software can be patented in malaysia if it is an > embedded algorithm in an appliance or gadget. something like if the > algorithm becomes part of the circuits. > > else software patents and business method patents are not recognised in > malaysia. > Luckily we're not recognising software patent. I strongly oppose software patent. I have no problem with software copyright though. Guess we need to be more vocal in opposing software patent so that policy makers don't make a wrong move to recognising it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: MySecurity Community
Salam dewa2 Saya cadangkan biarkan sahaja macam tu.. kita tgk sapa berani godam.. baru kita tahu sejauh mana level penggodam.. hehehe Kata kita malaysia security expert.. apa risau.. dia godam.. kita lawan balik.. sebab penggodam2 kat Malaysia ni level Jaguh Kampung ajer.. muahahaaha.. Sekadar cadangan selepas perut kenyang... hehehehe ... To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. Selasih Net Enterprise "we never sleep, we just park our head" Sent from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Muhamad Hisyam Nasir < gempakhost...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pasal IRC , open port SSL lepastu, buat hidekan semua /links dan /map > , baru lebih secure, lepas tu upkan BOPM skali dalam server , serangan > proxy dapat dielakkan, neostats pun salah satu app 3rd party yang > bagus tuk irc. itu yang boleh aku kongsi lau bab irc server pasal > basic security. > > :P thanks.. > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:11 AM, aziman noor wrote: > > itu sudah pasti. > > ssh guna nama aku ajer boleh... wakakaka. > > > > tapi aku nak tanya korang la kan, > > gmail ada bagi pilihan sama ada kita nak guna https atau http, > > > > yang aku nak tanya? apa pro dan kontra setting kedua-duan tersebut... > > > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad > > wrote: > >> > >> cheers > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Kalau cakap bab security, rasanya irc server pun kena SSL jugak ni, > >>> barulah secure dari akar umbi. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hasanuddin Abu Bakar > >>> --- > >>> Ubuntu embedded developer/tester > >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bizkut > >>> > >>> Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org > >>> > >>> PGP Public Key > >>> > http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xC5A1B11965D43C5C > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 2:03 AM, cikgu ayob > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > aku dh join,,, > >>> > best2,,, > >>> > > >>> > On Nov 15, 12:36 am, Mohd Fazli Azran wrote: > >>> >> Hi all, > >>> >> > >>> >> After our meeting today at Bangi Oldtown with 9 members . We are > >>> >> agreed > >>> >> to invite all of you guy to join our irc community for discussion > >>> >> about > >>> >> security and etc. Our agenda will sent to all after this meetup. > >>> >> FreeBSD/PCBSD community are happy to invite all community to join to > >>> >> build more strongest security among us. > >>> >> > >>> >> IRC server > >>> >> /server irc.mysecurity.my 80 > >>> >> > >>> >> We use port 80 because many of us have policy block default irc > port > >>> >> 6667. For that we use port 80 so everybody can go in to irc server. > >>> >> Any > >>> >> comment and opinion are welcome. > >>> >> > >>> >> Mohd Fazli Azran > >>> >> PCBSD Malaysia > >>> >> MySecurity.my > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
You are a devil alright and mostly right! One little point though is that please do not associate adempiere as mine, irrespective of my neckhold on it. I very much wants it to be a Malaysian pride and might. All your ideas can make it happen faster. I this week am at Park Royal attending the International Software Testing Qualification Board and met up with a very interesting contact that can turn the whole project worldwide around. Strange how Karma works, so i would leave it mysteriously at that :) (to leave the devil guessing) Boh Yap wrote: > hi all, > > yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open > community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in > this thread (see last few posts ;-) > https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc > > Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu' attitude! From my > experiance, this 'kiasu' atitude is not a monopoly of Malaysia or even > Singapore. This exists even for example, with China > > Red1, again I want to play devil's advocate, > > 1. you can't build a national IT policy on just ONE PRODUCT > ALONE, ERP, altho it has wide applications (yes, any business > entity would require an ERP, but you're missing many other > opportunities... read on) > > 2. I would also like to push the healthcare IT agenda, for MSC8, the > following reasons: > - Everybody needs healthcare, more so with our deteriorating > health standards, and hence a very wide market. > > - Healthcare is not a price sensitive market, when did you last > bargain with yr doctor?, as opposed to someone bargaining for a > cheaper ERP solution.. > > - There is a wide range of high-end services under the healthcare > umbrella, hence investment/biz development opportunity.. > ie: Medical imaging, in today's Star Clinical Trials - all highly IT > intensive. > > - We have an opportunity to be world-class, especially in LHR > (Lifelong Health Record) by leveraging(reviving?) our smartcard > NRIC. > > - and to correct a perception - healthcare is not ERP. Although > there is some overlap, like in areas of inventory, asset > management, logistics, the rest are not. > > - Potential to provide world-class services, Healthcare has some > very strong and complex standards, HL7, Snomed, LOINC, ... > and experts and solutions for these earn big consultg bucks.. > > - Huge potential to do joint research with foreign Uni's, there are > FOSS projects from anything like Medical Imaging (think, 3D > games applied to medical), to LHR done by Uni like UCLA, MIT, > Harvard Med School, Imperial College etc... > > PS http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/Enhanced+Health+Services > If you go to the above URL, you'll see that MSC talks about Health > Services and has a list of 'services' - LHR is one of them! > But other than MyHealth, the rest is vapourware? > > And my question of MyHealth: is this the only outcome of the $$M > spent on the 'telemedicine flagship'?, its nothing more than a > brochureware portal! >Its forums are unmoderated, nobody seems to be answering, >and its littered with MLM guys pushing bogus? healthcare >products... > > > 3. Lets not also forget the 'sexy' (in politicians and investors mind) > sectors like BioTech and GreenTech. (And these sectors have $$) > Both these sectors require a lot of IT, and to leave this out of a > MSC8 plan is just dumb. Here's why we shld work with these > parties. > >Biotech - > relies heavilly on genetics engineering, and genetic sequencing > and workg with genetic database would not be possible without > IT. > Also sophisticated Lab machinery depends heavilly on > computer control snd programming, again requiring IT skills. > >GreenTech - > Also requires a lot of IT, for the initial CAD/CAM engineering > design & fabrication (CNC (Computerised Numerial Control) > machine tools, robotics, etc...) > Also most GreenTech, be it Water Recycling, Wind Energy, > etc... require a lot of automated controls, needing expertise in > embedded systems design and programming... again another > aspect of IT! > > 4. Education: always been my bitch and pitch... > We HAVE TO revamp education, otherwise ALL of the above > including ERP is a pipe dream! The original MSC failed largely > because of education (can't produce the manpower, where are > the 1,000 Java programmers, the 80 PHDs in data/radio > comm.), and MSC8 too will fail if edu doesn't change. > > Yes Red1, I know your plans include a Adempiere Research > Center, that is well and good, but if basic technical skills is > not part of the core curriculum we still have a problem, eventho > you have have 100's ERP consultants... these will be just > business processes people.
[osdcmy-public] Re: Entrepreneurship For OSS Developers
haris, oops, sent this off without reading the later part of yr mail. yes agree we shld provide services, and mechanism shld be worked out. There can be a lot of complications, quality of work, payment, sharing of revenue If these are not handled well, we'll all be fighting each other... I'm willing to share ideas and discuss. Perhaps Haris you can put fowd a proposal/aganda? to discuss. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Boh Yap wrote: > Haris, > > Canonical had a great benefector, Mike Shuttleworth, that pumped in a > whole chunk of $, and Red Hat has its IPO. > > End of the day the car wont run without fuel, the fuel is $ > > Here is an idea, OSDC (or any other FOSS community ) should have a > community fund, provided by (MDEC?, some sponsor) and jointly managed > by them? > > Or work with sponsors, perhaps TM can sponsor rackspace, HP/IBM/Dell > can sponsor 1 or 2 servers BUT we gotta have a good plan, > otherwise they'll just think we want a free lunch. > > Let's work together, and put this into the MSC8 Propo...? > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel > wrote: >> >> Last Saturday night meetup with FreeBSD / PCBSD / MyBSD. >> >> One topic that we come up. How to community can be financial depended. >> We talk about problem hosting our documentation, better hardware and >> providing services to own community. >> >> We discuss about community as business entity. >> >> Let look back to history of Red Hat. >> http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/history/ >> >> Its business entity that make Red Hat Distribution booming and >> continue to be develop. >> >> Not to mention Ubuntu and Canonical. >> >> Anyway.. >> >> Community should has business arm or business that support them. We >> can provide consultant services, technical support, online helpdesk >> and many more. >> >> Think about it. How long we want to wait for funding? >> >> Its take time to change people. Let we change ourself. >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, red1 wrote: >>> >>> Haris, >>> Memang kasar kau - the english version is "you pay peanuts, you get >>> monkeys!" >>> >>> I like to commend your post again as spot-on. Benefit of FOSS is >>> freedom, not free lunch. >>> >>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: Making business using OSS is still hard for us, maybe the skills that we have and the believe that using OSS should be cheap... (haiya)... Im against using costs saving as a benefit because it make our OSS industry suffers. Its may good to present to politicians but its has negative impacts. We can see this from our friends doing freelance and companies that moving aways from supporting OSS as business models. They suffers because the amount paid could not cover the increase costs during services. I always said. The amount that we save from licensing should be invest back to OSS industry by paying services that will benefits to all. RM1000 that we save, we can used that to hire OSS consultants to give services like network consultancy, training and configuration. This will increase our human capitals skills set and knowledge. They want quality services but tapi mahu bayar ciput. (want to pay small amounts) Mungkin ayat ini kasar. Tapi peribahasa saya "Dibayar taik dapat taik". >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > #--- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Entrepreneurship For OSS Developers
Haris, Canonical had a great benefector, Mike Shuttleworth, that pumped in a whole chunk of $, and Red Hat has its IPO. End of the day the car wont run without fuel, the fuel is $ Here is an idea, OSDC (or any other FOSS community ) should have a community fund, provided by (MDEC?, some sponsor) and jointly managed by them? Or work with sponsors, perhaps TM can sponsor rackspace, HP/IBM/Dell can sponsor 1 or 2 servers BUT we gotta have a good plan, otherwise they'll just think we want a free lunch. Let's work together, and put this into the MSC8 Propo...? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: > > Last Saturday night meetup with FreeBSD / PCBSD / MyBSD. > > One topic that we come up. How to community can be financial depended. > We talk about problem hosting our documentation, better hardware and > providing services to own community. > > We discuss about community as business entity. > > Let look back to history of Red Hat. > http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/history/ > > Its business entity that make Red Hat Distribution booming and > continue to be develop. > > Not to mention Ubuntu and Canonical. > > Anyway.. > > Community should has business arm or business that support them. We > can provide consultant services, technical support, online helpdesk > and many more. > > Think about it. How long we want to wait for funding? > > Its take time to change people. Let we change ourself. > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, red1 wrote: >> >> Haris, >> Memang kasar kau - the english version is "you pay peanuts, you get >> monkeys!" >> >> I like to commend your post again as spot-on. Benefit of FOSS is >> freedom, not free lunch. >> >> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>> Making business using OSS is still hard for us, maybe the skills that >>> we have and the believe that using OSS should be cheap... (haiya)... >>> >>> Im against using costs saving as a benefit because it make our OSS >>> industry suffers. Its may good to present to politicians but its has >>> negative impacts. >>> >>> We can see this from our friends doing freelance and companies that >>> moving aways from supporting OSS as business models. They suffers >>> because the amount paid could not cover the increase costs during >>> services. >>> >>> I always said. The amount that we save from licensing should be invest >>> back to OSS industry by paying services that will benefits to all. >>> >>> RM1000 that we save, we can used that to hire OSS consultants to give >>> services like network consultancy, training and configuration. >>> >>> This will increase our human capitals skills set and knowledge. >>> >>> They want quality services but tapi mahu bayar ciput. (want to pay >>> small amounts) >>> >>> Mungkin ayat ini kasar. Tapi peribahasa saya "Dibayar taik dapat taik". >>> >>> >> > > > > -- #--- regds, Boh Heong, Yap --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[osdcmy-public] Re: Proposal Akhir Zaman
hi all, yes, let's discuss on open lists, this is after all an 'open community'. And Red1 has been honest and open in sharing his fetish in this thread (see last few posts ;-) https://mail.google.com/mail/#search/fetish/12445fea336919fc Also I agree with Red1, let's outgrow our 'kiasu' attitude! From my experiance, this 'kiasu' atitude is not a monopoly of Malaysia or even Singapore. This exists even for example, with China Red1, again I want to play devil's advocate, 1. you can't build a national IT policy on just ONE PRODUCT ALONE, ERP, altho it has wide applications (yes, any business entity would require an ERP, but you're missing many other opportunities... read on) 2. I would also like to push the healthcare IT agenda, for MSC8, the following reasons: - Everybody needs healthcare, more so with our deteriorating health standards, and hence a very wide market. - Healthcare is not a price sensitive market, when did you last bargain with yr doctor?, as opposed to someone bargaining for a cheaper ERP solution.. - There is a wide range of high-end services under the healthcare umbrella, hence investment/biz development opportunity.. ie: Medical imaging, in today's Star Clinical Trials - all highly IT intensive. - We have an opportunity to be world-class, especially in LHR (Lifelong Health Record) by leveraging(reviving?) our smartcard NRIC. - and to correct a perception - healthcare is not ERP. Although there is some overlap, like in areas of inventory, asset management, logistics, the rest are not. - Potential to provide world-class services, Healthcare has some very strong and complex standards, HL7, Snomed, LOINC, ... and experts and solutions for these earn big consultg bucks.. - Huge potential to do joint research with foreign Uni's, there are FOSS projects from anything like Medical Imaging (think, 3D games applied to medical), to LHR done by Uni like UCLA, MIT, Harvard Med School, Imperial College etc... PS http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/Enhanced+Health+Services If you go to the above URL, you'll see that MSC talks about Health Services and has a list of 'services' - LHR is one of them! But other than MyHealth, the rest is vapourware? And my question of MyHealth: is this the only outcome of the $$M spent on the 'telemedicine flagship'?, its nothing more than a brochureware portal! Its forums are unmoderated, nobody seems to be answering, and its littered with MLM guys pushing bogus? healthcare products... 3. Lets not also forget the 'sexy' (in politicians and investors mind) sectors like BioTech and GreenTech. (And these sectors have $$) Both these sectors require a lot of IT, and to leave this out of a MSC8 plan is just dumb. Here's why we shld work with these parties. Biotech - relies heavilly on genetics engineering, and genetic sequencing and workg with genetic database would not be possible without IT. Also sophisticated Lab machinery depends heavilly on computer control snd programming, again requiring IT skills. GreenTech - Also requires a lot of IT, for the initial CAD/CAM engineering design & fabrication (CNC (Computerised Numerial Control) machine tools, robotics, etc...) Also most GreenTech, be it Water Recycling, Wind Energy, etc... require a lot of automated controls, needing expertise in embedded systems design and programming... again another aspect of IT! 4. Education: always been my bitch and pitch... We HAVE TO revamp education, otherwise ALL of the above including ERP is a pipe dream! The original MSC failed largely because of education (can't produce the manpower, where are the 1,000 Java programmers, the 80 PHDs in data/radio comm.), and MSC8 too will fail if edu doesn't change. Yes Red1, I know your plans include a Adempiere Research Center, that is well and good, but if basic technical skills is not part of the core curriculum we still have a problem, eventho you have have 100's ERP consultants... these will be just business processes people. 5. Need to create a Hacker Culture By this I mean we gotta change public perception of what a hacker (and here I mean a good programmer, not a malicious criminal that works with computers) is. That a 'hacker' is a honourable and well paying job. Its as prestigous as a lawyer or engineer.. . and parents would encourage their kids to be programmers, instead of just lawyers and doctors... How? Perhaps Rafe's idea of a widely publicised programming competition is a good start. Perhaps there should be regular an inter-school coding, website-design, security hacking competition... Perhaps a local production company will produce a short series on hackers... c'mon lets come out w
