Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
21st century daa... With Money People can open eyes.. klu bnda ni berbayar br depa tau.. ooo beharga rupanya... br ramai 2 mgidam nk pkai.. hahaha p/s: bedasarkan pengalaman jgk. Pada 16 April 2011 4:06 AM, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.commenulis: haa... that's why lar what ever it is make sure pegang ni betul2 customers always right sebab itulah macam manapun diorang yang nak kuar duit kat kita. offer backtrack tu bagus offer M$ pun bagus offer pepe je janji boleh jual. Woi ini untuk KOSTEM la .Hampa letak murah sangat macam lah kita ni murah pulak. Memang patut kalau mahal no more tolong-tolong ini bukan masanya lagi dah... bro welcome to 21century Ok oleh kerana pasang winxp pirate standard kedai selalu ambil rm30 #dsktop shj price differ kalau laptop# oleh kerana kita geng komuniti linux (yang lebih terhormat) kita ambil double rm60t (sambil membeli leh beramal-konsep saja). untuk some basic basic stuff linux installer. the price will go up if customer demanding especially yang nak-nak (tak mahu lepaskan) jugak2 winbdows depa. maksud aku depa nak dual booting maksud aku kita terpaksa install kan winbdows tu sebab itu kerja kotor so kena ambil duit lebih lagi untuk cuci ballik tangan kita. hahahha as for me full integration dgn gamer/production creative studio dan winbdows dan auxilary cam puppy linux, simple linux or slitaz or whatever sumer sumer boleh cecah rm 300. contoh harga Supreme super Gamer ArtistX 1.0 Sabily/ubuntu CE puppy/slitaz/jolicloud RM300 UEGamer puppy linux RM150 uegamer/suse/oshirix/sabily (one only) dual boot dgn winbdows xp/7 sedia ada (windows still ok) RM60 single boot linux rm60 dual boot linux and kena install pirate 7 or xp (windows dah screen biru kematian) RM160 ok harga diatas ditaruh setelah membuat kajian terperinci sekian lamaleh kerana Winbdows pirate depa nak jugak dan kena pasang kat dioarang riZer hanya mampu untuk memberikan lifetime warranty untuk linux os tulen sahaja. Winbdows depa kalau jammed kami tak warranty means that dia kena bayar lagi.untuk regrub installation maksudnya simple janagn letak harga untuk windows installation dalam bill kita/diorang letak harga untuk linux sahaja. denagn cara itu kita tak payah menagku kita yang letak winbdows pirate tu kat pc diorang (jika berlaku apa-apa masalah dgn authority) IMHO jangan letak pirate kat depa, request for installation cd yang came with that pc kalau installation cd dia hanya winME sahaja pun WinME lah janji ori. kedua kalau depa mangkak tak buat lagi backup DVD untuk 7 vista ORI depa so itu tugas kitalah kena buatkan dulu kat diorang (pasai tu kena ambil harga mahal) ketiga cadangkan hanya linux untuk pc depa yang selalunya ada sticker free dos. (sebab murah belli yang free dos punya) selalu saya bagi tiga linux booting sabily,ue gamer and slackware 13dvd untuk pc free DOS ni perg cantik gila kalau tak bubuh windows untuk pc pc ni. keempat reasonnyer adalah kerana kita tak nak pc tu kembali kat kita balik dibelakang hari sebab screen biru kematian. walaupun tak der warranty untuk winbdows depa, tapi trust me kita jugak akan dapat nama buruk pasai taruh kat situ bagi ada. (ini adalah dari pengalaman saya sendiri) terima kasih keran komen anda semua diharap kita dapat berbincang lagi. harap berikan komen yang buruk sama. tak setuju? dan tak puas hati. (yang ni lagi menarik) p/s owh the price above for normal working adult only. budak sekolah dan minor kena tanya/mintak duit parents depa dulu hahahaha 9just kidding) pelajar akan dapat special discounted price 2011/4/15 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my @Syazwan, In this thread, there is no one bashing Windows. Please read everything in this thread. We are just talking about since most computer users prefer to use Windows, even though it is pirated version, then perhaps we can make a fortune on these pirated software lovers. Again, please read. *Dear politicians, if you're not intelligent at least act intelligent. If not then just shut up.* *Quoted From: http://twitter.com/#!/jerinelay/status/58857989016264705* -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
Off topic but will be disscuss in MOSC2011 list. Install fest during community day MOSC2011 3rd JJuly. 2011/4/16 Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com: 21st century daa... With Money People can open eyes.. klu bnda ni berbayar br depa tau.. ooo beharga rupanya... br ramai 2 mgidam nk pkai.. hahaha p/s: bedasarkan pengalaman jgk. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
@Syazwan, In this thread, there is no one bashing Windows. Please read everything in this thread. We are just talking about since most computer users prefer to use Windows, even though it is pirated version, then perhaps we can make a fortune on these pirated software lovers. Again, please read. *Dear politicians, if you're not intelligent at least act intelligent. If not then just shut up.* *Quoted From: http://twitter.com/#!/jerinelay/status/58857989016264705* -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
haa... that's why lar what ever it is make sure pegang ni betul2 customers always right sebab itulah macam manapun diorang yang nak kuar duit kat kita. offer backtrack tu bagus offer M$ pun bagus offer pepe je janji boleh jual. Woi ini untuk KOSTEM la .Hampa letak murah sangat macam lah kita ni murah pulak. Memang patut kalau mahal no more tolong-tolong ini bukan masanya lagi dah... bro welcome to 21century Ok oleh kerana pasang winxp pirate standard kedai selalu ambil rm30 #dsktop shj price differ kalau laptop# oleh kerana kita geng komuniti linux (yang lebih terhormat) kita ambil double rm60t (sambil membeli leh beramal-konsep saja). untuk some basic basic stuff linux installer. the price will go up if customer demanding especially yang nak-nak (tak mahu lepaskan) jugak2 winbdows depa. maksud aku depa nak dual booting maksud aku kita terpaksa install kan winbdows tu sebab itu kerja kotor so kena ambil duit lebih lagi untuk cuci ballik tangan kita. hahahha as for me full integration dgn gamer/production creative studio dan winbdows dan auxilary cam puppy linux, simple linux or slitaz or whatever sumer sumer boleh cecah rm 300. contoh harga Supreme super Gamer ArtistX 1.0 Sabily/ubuntu CE puppy/slitaz/jolicloud RM300 UEGamer puppy linux RM150 uegamer/suse/oshirix/sabily (one only) dual boot dgn winbdows xp/7 sedia ada (windows still ok) RM60 single boot linux rm60 dual boot linux and kena install pirate 7 or xp (windows dah screen biru kematian) RM160 ok harga diatas ditaruh setelah membuat kajian terperinci sekian lamaleh kerana Winbdows pirate depa nak jugak dan kena pasang kat dioarang riZer hanya mampu untuk memberikan lifetime warranty untuk linux os tulen sahaja. Winbdows depa kalau jammed kami tak warranty means that dia kena bayar lagi.untuk regrub installation maksudnya simple janagn letak harga untuk windows installation dalam bill kita/diorang letak harga untuk linux sahaja. denagn cara itu kita tak payah menagku kita yang letak winbdows pirate tu kat pc diorang (jika berlaku apa-apa masalah dgn authority) IMHO jangan letak pirate kat depa, request for installation cd yang came with that pc kalau installation cd dia hanya winME sahaja pun WinME lah janji ori. kedua kalau depa mangkak tak buat lagi backup DVD untuk 7 vista ORI depa so itu tugas kitalah kena buatkan dulu kat diorang (pasai tu kena ambil harga mahal) ketiga cadangkan hanya linux untuk pc depa yang selalunya ada sticker free dos. (sebab murah belli yang free dos punya) selalu saya bagi tiga linux booting sabily,ue gamer and slackware 13dvd untuk pc free DOS ni perg cantik gila kalau tak bubuh windows untuk pc pc ni. keempat reasonnyer adalah kerana kita tak nak pc tu kembali kat kita balik dibelakang hari sebab screen biru kematian. walaupun tak der warranty untuk winbdows depa, tapi trust me kita jugak akan dapat nama buruk pasai taruh kat situ bagi ada. (ini adalah dari pengalaman saya sendiri) terima kasih keran komen anda semua diharap kita dapat berbincang lagi. harap berikan komen yang buruk sama. tak setuju? dan tak puas hati. (yang ni lagi menarik) p/s owh the price above for normal working adult only. budak sekolah dan minor kena tanya/mintak duit parents depa dulu hahahaha 9just kidding) pelajar akan dapat special discounted price 2011/4/15 Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my @Syazwan, In this thread, there is no one bashing Windows. Please read everything in this thread. We are just talking about since most computer users prefer to use Windows, even though it is pirated version, then perhaps we can make a fortune on these pirated software lovers. Again, please read. *Dear politicians, if you're not intelligent at least act intelligent. If not then just shut up.* *Quoted From: http://twitter.com/#!/jerinelay/status/58857989016264705* -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
@Rizer Soire, Sebab tu lah Exabytes jual hosting service yg melampau slow overload dgn harga yg mahal. Sebab org tengok harga mahal, service macam tahi pun org cakap bagus. lol @Rizer, kat sebuah shoping complex dekat tempat aku, ade weekend kiosk untuk RM80 3 hari. ko nak buat install fest berbayar kat complex tu x? kita install M$ Tingkap Edisi Lanun then charge dia org RM30. nak? -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
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hahahaha... M$ Tingkap wt pe.. baik kita promo BackTrack ke.. hehehe menarik skit.. kita cas by apps.. standard wepcrack kasi je RM 30.. alang nk jd launu.. biaq lanun yg power.. kwang3.. agak2 laku x? p/s: agak2 masuk jel x klu curi password nih hahaha Pada 14 April 2011 3:09 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my menulis: @Rizer Soire, Sebab tu lah Exabytes jual hosting service yg melampau slow overload dgn harga yg mahal. Sebab org tengok harga mahal, service macam tahi pun org cakap bagus. lol @Rizer, kat sebuah shoping complex dekat tempat aku, ade weekend kiosk untuk RM80 3 hari. ko nak buat install fest berbayar kat complex tu x? kita install M$ Tingkap Edisi Lanun then charge dia org RM30. nak? -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
Boleh kena bawah Computer Crimes Act 1997 tu Soire . :P Pada 14 April 2011 3:22 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com menulis: hahahaha... M$ Tingkap wt pe.. baik kita promo BackTrack ke.. hehehe menarik skit.. kita cas by apps.. standard wepcrack kasi je RM 30.. alang nk jd launu.. biaq lanun yg power.. kwang3.. agak2 laku x? p/s: agak2 masuk jel x klu curi password nih hahaha Pada 14 April 2011 3:09 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my menulis: @Rizer Soire, Sebab tu lah Exabytes jual hosting service yg melampau slow overload dgn harga yg mahal. Sebab org tengok harga mahal, service macam tahi pun org cakap bagus. lol @Rizer, kat sebuah shoping complex dekat tempat aku, ade weekend kiosk untuk RM80 3 hari. ko nak buat install fest berbayar kat complex tu x? kita install M$ Tingkap Edisi Lanun then charge dia org RM30. nak? -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
why do we need to show BackTrack why people hate doing things on line of whatever words is that, people just want simplicity. and why we need to bash windows? I'm not being bias but the one who we do need to endores id the one who want choice, and freedom..kalau dah tak nak, tak ape lah, sebab dekat luar banyak lagi orang yang berminat nak cuba benda baru, especially how open source software works. just be professional lads :) 2011/4/14 Din Mujahideen kaibatheleg...@gmail.com Boleh kena bawah Computer Crimes Act 1997 tu Soire . :P Pada 14 April 2011 3:22 PM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com menulis: hahahaha... M$ Tingkap wt pe.. baik kita promo BackTrack ke.. hehehe menarik skit.. kita cas by apps.. standard wepcrack kasi je RM 30.. alang nk jd launu.. biaq lanun yg power.. kwang3.. agak2 laku x? p/s: agak2 masuk jel x klu curi password nih hahaha Pada 14 April 2011 3:09 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my menulis: @Rizer Soire, Sebab tu lah Exabytes jual hosting service yg melampau slow overload dgn harga yg mahal. Sebab org tengok harga mahal, service macam tahi pun org cakap bagus. lol @Rizer, kat sebuah shoping complex dekat tempat aku, ade weekend kiosk untuk RM80 3 hari. ko nak buat install fest berbayar kat complex tu x? kita install M$ Tingkap Edisi Lanun then charge dia org RM30. nak? -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton)http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com http://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap http://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
[osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
sorry for misunderstanding hackerspace but im glad that everything are bit clear for me now yet im a newbie just started to learn more about OSS even i am not a tecnical user, but i still want to contribute so what are the realistic action that can be take now? having a small event at hackerspace kl or maybe prepare for public session during MOSC On Apr 6, 11:46 am, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: I do agree with Eric notation. I don't really mean that installfiest will be disaster, but *how do you know that the person who installed will use the OS*? I've done some number of awareness project from university to school, fron city to middle of no where, but how far do the program really influence them moving toward OSS? I't not want to be self minded, negative thinking person, but like Eric said, again, 'Many Malaysian students are lazy by default'. Not all, but majority. They don't want to listen to their same age friend or person who do not have success story person like me, the key is how we need to change our friends mindsets? The only thing I can see is involve installfiest session in event such as MOSC and let them come and see how we unite. That's the key thing. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com wrote: There are many issues when it comes to an install fest. Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit the people? You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus neglecting the others who came. Serioulsy it may be inspiring to view a film you torrented from the Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and tryhere...you fill in the blanks. And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get things up and running? Maybe focus on students from Pantai Timur or Sabah/Sarawak. Those guys are really hunger for knowledge. Bigger towns' students tend to be very satisfied with the pirated Windows they proudly use! Eric On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: ~intall fest~ this concept is really amazing at those early stage people come and bring their pc and show their prob which maybe similar with others prob can i see/having/doing this concept in Malaysia? ...to see how strong and important a community can be Revolution OS really open my mind this is my first post to this mailing list.. i didnt manage to expect outcome of this topic.. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit http://about.me/syazwan/bio http://blog.ubuntuseekers.comhttp://blog.syazwan.co.cc jipangmenje...@gmail.com jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakaphttp://radio.syazwan.co.cc -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
have you guys thought of doing it like a roadshow? like what TM always did? it will somehow bring us good response by doing that. -- *GarfieldWTF http://garfield.in* Debian User Community (Malaysia) *http://debmal.my* - *CS Squad VPS Hosting http://cart.cs-squad.net/cart.php?gid=1* -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
Basyeer, Swee Meng has prepare a online form to organised activities with hackerspaceKL. Lets we start it. You can propose time and date and get the place and we will support by promoting it. You can get your friends to come bring along notebooks and we will help on that. Garfield, We can go for roadshow with any government agencies that doing road show like MDeC or any companies that want to host us. Lets we approach them. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: have you guys thought of doing it like a roadshow? like what TM always did? it will somehow bring us good response by doing that. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
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im lack of members here my 'kampung' is at Ipoh i only have frens through this community and my polythecnic class im currently in last sem waiting for final exam thats why i didnt mind to go any event that OSDC or any community created this one of my big problem, lack of members but if hackerspace want to create an event, i can commit to it unless clash from my personal life about the roadshow, this Jerantut Event is kindly similar to roadshow? that will be one of my first event towards larger exposure to OSS and organization related to it 2011/4/6 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Basyeer, Swee Meng has prepare a online form to organised activities with hackerspaceKL. Lets we start it. You can propose time and date and get the place and we will support by promoting it. You can get your friends to come bring along notebooks and we will help on that. Garfield, We can go for roadshow with any government agencies that doing road show like MDeC or any companies that want to host us. Lets we approach them. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: have you guys thought of doing it like a roadshow? like what TM always did? it will somehow bring us good response by doing that. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
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Dear friends, Such Installfest is good. But I personally don't have enough time to spend for hanging around, waiting to meet new linux user who have that effort to come to such place just to solve their linux problem. I would like to suggest to those who are 'rajin' enough and have a lot of time for community, please do join us on IRC. We have #osdc.my #ubuntu-my #fedora-my #kostem.my under irc.freenode.net to hang around every day at your own place on your own sweet time. Those newbies can come on this channels and ask newbies questions. All of us can help them in real time and make our community active and alive. If you don't know how to join us on IRC, just install any IRC client like xchat or irssi or even mIRC (in windows), connect to irc.freenode.net server and join our community channels. Park your nick and wait for those newbies to come. You can also invite them to come there too. It's easy right? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.mywrote: im lack of members here my 'kampung' is at Ipoh i only have frens through this community and my polythecnic class im currently in last sem waiting for final exam thats why i didnt mind to go any event that OSDC or any community created this one of my big problem, lack of members but if hackerspace want to create an event, i can commit to it unless clash from my personal life about the roadshow, this Jerantut Event is kindly similar to roadshow? that will be one of my first event towards larger exposure to OSS and organization related to it 2011/4/6 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Basyeer, Swee Meng has prepare a online form to organised activities with hackerspaceKL. Lets we start it. You can propose time and date and get the place and we will support by promoting it. You can get your friends to come bring along notebooks and we will help on that. Garfield, We can go for roadshow with any government agencies that doing road show like MDeC or any companies that want to host us. Lets we approach them. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: have you guys thought of doing it like a roadshow? like what TM always did? it will somehow bring us good response by doing that. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- Best Wishes, M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee - ApOgEE on LaunchPad http://artofapogee.blogspot.com - Art Of ApOgEE http://coderstalk.blogspot.com - Coder's Talk -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
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thanks to all yes, i do undertand that such infest need commitment need to spend time, still it do has it benefit i didnt request to have event every week we could try an event and see how it respond in the meantime, i just join the irc channel will be there :-) On Apr 6, 5:36 pm, ApOgEE jerung...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Such Installfest is good. But I personally don't have enough time to spend for hanging around, waiting to meet new linux user who have that effort to come to such place just to solve their linux problem. I would like to suggest to those who are 'rajin' enough and have a lot of time for community, please do join us on IRC. We have #osdc.my #ubuntu-my #fedora-my #kostem.my under irc.freenode.net to hang around every day at your own place on your own sweet time. Those newbies can come on this channels and ask newbies questions. All of us can help them in real time and make our community active and alive. If you don't know how to join us on IRC, just install any IRC client like xchat or irssi or even mIRC (in windows), connect to irc.freenode.net server and join our community channels. Park your nick and wait for those newbies to come. You can also invite them to come there too. It's easy right? On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.mywrote: im lack of members here my 'kampung' is at Ipoh i only have frens through this community and my polythecnic class im currently in last sem waiting for final exam thats why i didnt mind to go any event that OSDC or any community created this one of my big problem, lack of members but if hackerspace want to create an event, i can commit to it unless clash from my personal life about the roadshow, this Jerantut Event is kindly similar to roadshow? that will be one of my first event towards larger exposure to OSS and organization related to it 2011/4/6 Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com Basyeer, Swee Meng has prepare a online form to organised activities with hackerspaceKL. Lets we start it. You can propose time and date and get the place and we will support by promoting it. You can get your friends to come bring along notebooks and we will help on that. Garfield, We can go for roadshow with any government agencies that doing road show like MDeC or any companies that want to host us. Lets we approach them. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Garfield WTF garfi...@debmal.my wrote: have you guys thought of doing it like a roadshow? like what TM always did? it will somehow bring us good response by doing that. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- Best Wishes, M. Fauzilkamil Zainuddin ApOgEE a.k.a JeRuNgKuN https://edge.launchpad.net/~apogee- ApOgEE on LaunchPadhttp://artofapogee.blogspot.com- Art Of ApOgEEhttp://coderstalk.blogspot.com- Coder's Talk -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
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movie/documentary like this give larger impact then for us youngsters to view Linux history on the net 1 1/2 hour, compile almost all the things that is important and i am a young people, i think so On Apr 6, 12:20 am, hadri hilmi hadri.hi...@gmail.com wrote: +1...pirate of silicon valley. inspiring movie by inspiring young people. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Soire Meira soire...@gmail.com wrote: +100 i like this style.. do you watch Revolution OS film.. can we make some history with Open Sources in Malaysia??? hehehe 2011/4/5 Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my what is trying to emphasize is the concept the install fest is an example could it be possible that on each weekend we having a fest where people can bring their laptop? to show and solve their prob using this concept. work as community i do imagine to spend weekend in a club for example linux based club. mix around, solve other prob, if we have prob, maybe other can solve it this is more to a community work. 2011/4/5, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com: Not so long time ago, installfest is for new in Linux to meet and learn to install Linux. I believe, with easier installer or using virtual machine, installation can be done easily. http://installfest.org/ On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: ~intall fest~ this concept is really amazing at those early stage people come and bring their pc and show their prob which maybe similar with others prob can i see/having/doing this concept in Malaysia? ...to see how strong and important a community can be Revolution OS really open my mind this is my first post to this mailing list.. i didnt manage to expect outcome of this topic.. -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- -- *Maui Sabily 2011* mauisab...@sabily.org *GPG KeyID*: DBDA3074 *GPG Fingerprint*: 3CCE D281 C894 4FB0 3D22 2141 75C6 E41F DBDA 3074 Soire Meira 2008 - 2011 EascobaNET, Inc 2006 - 2010 Ch0kL@Thack 2002 PaleoY2K 1998 - 2000 http://www.sabily.my http://www.sabily-my.tk Developer: Sabily NetBook Remix 10.10 Al-Qudshttp://mirror.spanasia.net/pub/simpleLinux/Pub/sabily.my/SabilyNR.iso Sabily Zakat Calc 0.2-1 Beta (Debian) https://launchpad.net/zakat-calc Asmawi Office 0.1 Alpha (Webase Presentiton) http://www.asmawioffice.tk/ Soire TV Radio http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Windows Only - continue version on Linux) BrutuSamaDia http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Remote Desktop Penetration Testing) Mauiware.AYU.0.6 http://www.soire.webs.com/ (Virus Cleanner Get Back Hidden Files) Malicious of Dark Knight - Hack To Learn, Don't Learn To Hack -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011http://fb.me/mosc2011andhttp://portal.mosc.my/ -- Regards, 01101111011001000111001001101001 Caesium Project -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
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yes, we do have KOSTEM to manage thing that related to money but what i must say is, it is more to community first this is an idea a kickstart it doesnt mean to be perfect i just assume that we can create or callobrate with hackerspacekl place for an example run the activities there, for an installation demo without fees. im sorry to say, but one of the main reason me myself didnt join hackerspace event because it require money it is burden for us, student rm15 could mean a lot even it is just to sincere donate, but could you just enter without donate a bit? i didnt have courage to do such things even i do have interest in joining it all my words below to show current things from the side of me as student what do student need? those who have interest in learning OSS so this is my suggestion: can we rent hackerspace place for example and create simple event? introduction to OSS and intallation demo trust me, installation to make a dual boot could be complicated for a basic user me myself strugle at the beginning mostly in partition the hdd and yes, we do need internet connection i agree on it rent place and invite all no cost at the starting event we can make this event as a way to determine how many will 'sahut' this call it should not cost a lot rite? just try call anyone, maybe a group of student or any newbie that show interest could also try to reach nearest school/society even only 10 person will come at first event, i think that is alredy big improvement if the geographical place is the obstacle, so i would to suggest if i organize it at my place currently in ipoh, perak. i do have friends, but little it is not quantity that we are seeking for right? quality is much important need person that can commit but of course the event will need help of the community since me myself lack of OSS knowledge the event just needed to be official and supported by OSDC this is my suggestion, i do think it will need lot of critism and modification but i talk as a student, as my point of view of newbie in this OSS world do free to talk direct to me On Apr 6, 2:53 am, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: come onla slaya don't be so cruel. install fest is a good thing. i would support any install fest that you might want to firestart. the question now is it possible to ask for money or for a fee so that we could pay the rent e.g. club, internt, drinks bla, bla bla.. or better yet if we could get paid like hourly for our penat lelah installing them the linux. I would propose to KOSTEM to handle all payment and money involved since their new and we need to generate money for the cause. I can install offline too. like mr haris said I believe, with easier installer or using virtual machine, installation can be done easily I see many people can't do it even if it's easy. This is maybe because of our school like's to spoon feed us from kecil. When we grow up we still tend to like being fed all the time. IMHO Install fest can be the bridge to create more Sys Admin. To make more people want linux. I know that everyone out there want to Admin their own PC. Install fest would be the place for DIYer's out there so that they wouldn't get lost while doing it. The only thing we have to do is coach them. And let them have their fun. I've installed hundreds of linux to computers and I got variety of distros to choose from. I like to cari makan this way because it's my expertise. The harder the Better because I will learn more and know more. Mr. Basyeer where would you like to start this? AFAIC KOSTEM is our main point. We should lead KOSTEM to this. +1 Azhar Bin Mohd Zakaria Distro Manager CEO riZer Enterprise PG0265728-A 019455670 l comments are appreciated..thank you 2011/4/6, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com: There are many issues when it comes to an install fest. Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit the people? You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus neglecting the others who came. Serioulsy it may be inspiring to view a film you torrented from the Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and tryhere...you fill in the blanks. And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get things up and running? Maybe focus on students from Pantai Timur or Sabah/Sarawak. Those guys are really hunger for knowledge. Bigger towns' students tend to be very satisfied with the pirated Windows they proudly use! Eric On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: ~intall fest~ this
[osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
when i say supported by OSDC, it not mean money it is more about 'diiktiraf' recognition is important, it will affect the view of the user sorry for my broken English On Apr 6, 3:39 am, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: yes, we do have KOSTEM to manage thing that related to money but what i must say is, it is more to community first this is an idea a kickstart it doesnt mean to be perfect i just assume that we can create or callobrate with hackerspacekl place for an example run the activities there, for an installation demo without fees. im sorry to say, but one of the main reason me myself didnt join hackerspace event because it require money it is burden for us, student rm15 could mean a lot even it is just to sincere donate, but could you just enter without donate a bit? i didnt have courage to do such things even i do have interest in joining it all my words below to show current things from the side of me as student what do student need? those who have interest in learning OSS so this is my suggestion: can we rent hackerspace place for example and create simple event? introduction to OSS and intallation demo trust me, installation to make a dual boot could be complicated for a basic user me myself strugle at the beginning mostly in partition the hdd and yes, we do need internet connection i agree on it rent place and invite all no cost at the starting event we can make this event as a way to determine how many will 'sahut' this call it should not cost a lot rite? just try call anyone, maybe a group of student or any newbie that show interest could also try to reach nearest school/society even only 10 person will come at first event, i think that is alredy big improvement if the geographical place is the obstacle, so i would to suggest if i organize it at my place currently in ipoh, perak. i do have friends, but little it is not quantity that we are seeking for right? quality is much important need person that can commit but of course the event will need help of the community since me myself lack of OSS knowledge the event just needed to be official and supported by OSDC this is my suggestion, i do think it will need lot of critism and modification but i talk as a student, as my point of view of newbie in this OSS world do free to talk direct to me On Apr 6, 2:53 am, riZer Enterprise rizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: come onla slaya don't be so cruel. install fest is a good thing. i would support any install fest that you might want to firestart. the question now is it possible to ask for money or for a fee so that we could pay the rent e.g. club, internt, drinks bla, bla bla.. or better yet if we could get paid like hourly for our penat lelah installing them the linux. I would propose to KOSTEM to handle all payment and money involved since their new and we need to generate money for the cause. I can install offline too. like mr haris said I believe, with easier installer or using virtual machine, installation can be done easily I see many people can't do it even if it's easy. This is maybe because of our school like's to spoon feed us from kecil. When we grow up we still tend to like being fed all the time. IMHO Install fest can be the bridge to create more Sys Admin. To make more people want linux. I know that everyone out there want to Admin their own PC. Install fest would be the place for DIYer's out there so that they wouldn't get lost while doing it. The only thing we have to do is coach them. And let them have their fun. I've installed hundreds of linux to computers and I got variety of distros to choose from. I like to cari makan this way because it's my expertise. The harder the Better because I will learn more and know more. Mr. Basyeer where would you like to start this? AFAIC KOSTEM is our main point. We should lead KOSTEM to this. +1 Azhar Bin Mohd Zakaria Distro Manager CEO riZer Enterprise PG0265728-A 019455670 l comments are appreciated..thank you 2011/4/6, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte msiantuxlo...@gmail.com: There are many issues when it comes to an install fest. Most importantly is the availability of fast Internet access. Can anyone ensure that? Even the so called major IPTAs have shitty Internet access or not made available to students. Also do you have a large enough place to fit the people? You might also end up spending hours resolving one issue and thus neglecting the others who came. Serioulsy it may be inspiring to view a film you torrented from the Internet, it is another to work out the logistics. Many Malaysian students are lazy by default. I have worked with students from HK and when you show them how to apt-get or zypper once, they really do go home and tryhere...you fill in the blanks. And yes I am cynical coz I have been there and done thatyou wanna get
Re: [osdcmy] Re: Install Fest Concept
HackerspaceKL donation is sukarela. At any amount pun OK. RM15 is just suggestion for donation. The space is provided to us by our friends that voluntary pay the rent every month. As a gesture of appreciation, each time we use HackerspaceKL I has suggested, we donate what we can. Tak de pun tak pe. What HackerspaceKL really want, the community to use the place for activities and sebagai tetamu kita jaga baik-baik tempat tu. Our community is small, so kerja sama penting. Installfest meaningful is done in places that have group that want to know Linux. For example we arrange with ICT faculty for one day session about Linux and Install-fest. or we called for Installfest to all community, lets learn each other Distros. :) On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: yes, we do have KOSTEM to manage thing that related to money but what i must say is, it is more to community first this is an idea a kickstart it doesnt mean to be perfect i just assume that we can create or callobrate with hackerspacekl place for an example run the activities there, for an installation demo without fees. im sorry to say, but one of the main reason me myself didnt join hackerspace event because it require money it is burden for us, student rm15 could mean a lot even it is just to sincere donate, but could you just enter without donate a bit? i didnt have courage to do such things even i do have interest in joining it all my words below to show current things from the side of me as student what do student need? those who have interest in learning OSS so this is my suggestion: can we rent hackerspace place for example and create simple event? introduction to OSS and intallation demo trust me, installation to make a dual boot could be complicated for a basic user me myself strugle at the beginning mostly in partition the hdd and yes, we do need internet connection i agree on it rent place and invite all no cost at the starting event we can make this event as a way to determine how many will 'sahut' this call it should not cost a lot rite? just try call anyone, maybe a group of student or any newbie that show interest could also try to reach nearest school/society even only 10 person will come at first event, i think that is alredy big improvement if the geographical place is the obstacle, so i would to suggest if i organize it at my place currently in ipoh, perak. i do have friends, but little it is not quantity that we are seeking for right? quality is much important need person that can commit but of course the event will need help of the community since me myself lack of OSS knowledge the event just needed to be official and supported by OSDC this is my suggestion, i do think it will need lot of critism and modification but i talk as a student, as my point of view of newbie in this OSS world do free to talk direct to me -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
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And we at hackerspacekl really appreciate the help we get from the fund. BTW install fest is best done 1) On a large area, everybody will bring their computer, 2) On a place with genuine interest, 3) With a crew that is very patient, because they will ask all sort of question that will annoy a lot of linux veteran, 4) Willing to walk someone through installation 5) High technical specialty, some user might be interested to install something for their business This assumes that we have large user coming to install linux. Generally I think linux is easy enough to not have a install fest, but then I used linux long enough that I know the quirk and forget what is hard or easy. Oh yeah might need a place for tutorial session or workshop on best setup of server etc. Also it is easy to think big, and forget the ground work that is needed. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: HackerspaceKL donation is sukarela. At any amount pun OK. RM15 is just suggestion for donation. The space is provided to us by our friends that voluntary pay the rent every month. As a gesture of appreciation, each time we use HackerspaceKL I has suggested, we donate what we can. Tak de pun tak pe. What HackerspaceKL really want, the community to use the place for activities and sebagai tetamu kita jaga baik-baik tempat tu. Our community is small, so kerja sama penting. Installfest meaningful is done in places that have group that want to know Linux. For example we arrange with ICT faculty for one day session about Linux and Install-fest. or we called for Installfest to all community, lets learn each other Distros. :) On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Basyeer Linux basyeer_li...@sabily.my wrote: yes, we do have KOSTEM to manage thing that related to money but what i must say is, it is more to community first this is an idea a kickstart it doesnt mean to be perfect i just assume that we can create or callobrate with hackerspacekl place for an example run the activities there, for an installation demo without fees. im sorry to say, but one of the main reason me myself didnt join hackerspace event because it require money it is burden for us, student rm15 could mean a lot even it is just to sincere donate, but could you just enter without donate a bit? i didnt have courage to do such things even i do have interest in joining it all my words below to show current things from the side of me as student what do student need? those who have interest in learning OSS so this is my suggestion: can we rent hackerspace place for example and create simple event? introduction to OSS and intallation demo trust me, installation to make a dual boot could be complicated for a basic user me myself strugle at the beginning mostly in partition the hdd and yes, we do need internet connection i agree on it rent place and invite all no cost at the starting event we can make this event as a way to determine how many will 'sahut' this call it should not cost a lot rite? just try call anyone, maybe a group of student or any newbie that show interest could also try to reach nearest school/society even only 10 person will come at first event, i think that is alredy big improvement if the geographical place is the obstacle, so i would to suggest if i organize it at my place currently in ipoh, perak. i do have friends, but little it is not quantity that we are seeking for right? quality is much important need person that can commit but of course the event will need help of the community since me myself lack of OSS knowledge the event just needed to be official and supported by OSDC this is my suggestion, i do think it will need lot of critism and modification but i talk as a student, as my point of view of newbie in this OSS world do free to talk direct to me -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 and http://portal.mosc.my/
