Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Bro..

Bugging in a good sense. It's shows you care. Trying my best to get
the wake up call across all OSS community but .

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Rafe Azsnal  wrote:
> I'm not bugging just stating the obvious. Whether after this year people 
> going to take the OSS community seriously or not it really depend on what 
> will you deliver this year. End of story. Your survival is your own. Not is 
> totally up to you.
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Rafe Azsnal]

I'm not bugging just stating the obvious. Whether after this year people going 
to take the OSS community seriously or not it really depend on what will you 
deliver this year. End of story. Your survival is your own. Not is totally up 
to you. 

Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel  
wrote:

> Yes branding is very important
> 
> Thats what our friends in MDeC are trying to tell us for 2 years ...
> Do the branding 
> 
> They had handover to us, OSDC.my and Malaysia Open Source Conference
> 
> and Im trying to push this to all OSS community.
> 
> Rafe bu me for a reason. We have to maintain the above branding.
> MDeC had spend a lot on this. Like it or not, MDeC had done what its
> take us years and not yet been done.
> 
> Our own branding.
> 
> Now how
> 
> I'm the custodian of the above brand names. But I need the whole OSS
> community to take care of it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:32 AM, red1  wrote:
>>  The power of branding here, it is not just about the product or the twit
>> ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_twitter_feed_fight
>>> 
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Yes branding is very important

Thats what our friends in MDeC are trying to tell us for 2 years ...
Do the branding 

They had handover to us, OSDC.my and Malaysia Open Source Conference

and Im trying to push this to all OSS community.

Rafe bu me for a reason. We have to maintain the above branding.
MDeC had spend a lot on this. Like it or not, MDeC had done what its
take us years and not yet been done.

Our own branding.

Now how

I'm the custodian of the above brand names. But I need the whole OSS
community to take care of it.




On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:32 AM, red1  wrote:
>  The power of branding here, it is not just about the product or the twit
> ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_twitter_feed_fight
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[red1]

 The power of branding here, it is not just about the product or the
twit ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_twitter_feed_fight

  
  

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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[rafe azsnal]

KPB - do have a nice ring over it...

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Let's set up a Kumpulan Peminat Bastard
>
> Eric
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:40 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:
>>
>> Huh... Eric I'm up to be the biggest bastard ever! T&C apply... ask red1
>> he teach me good...
>>
>> rafe
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2011 8:37 PM, "Garfield WTF"  wrote:
>>
>> I am willing to work together with you in this, if there is no one
>> stopping me from doing so.
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[rafe azsnal]

not so much of missing, but good teacher should be remember...

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:35 AM, red1  wrote:
> Brader Haris,
> I believe we can all rise above ourselves. After finding out about your
> *secret* but powerful family building skills, i say to myself, "Now, that is
> a real man. A good man". I know many others who just talk but cannot achieve
> that. And if they do, they do it the 'other' but haram way. I respect you
> bro.
>
> On 4/30/11 6:45 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote:
>
> Haris,
>
> I know the feeling, I only have one kid at the moment and with work
> commitments + family there is not a whole lot of time I can give to FOSS.
>
> But I am willing to try.
>
> Who is willing to work with me?
>
> Eric
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> My time with community is borrowing time from, of my life with my
>> family and career. Its has its limit and its going to be over soon.
>>
>> Its year 3 now I'm with the community, push in any ways that I could
>> do to make this community move and growth.
>>
>> But sadly, we lack of leadership.
>>
>> We can define any goals or roadmap or any professional ways of doing
>> things. But who the takers?
>>
>> Fazli ??? - He is now busy with his office work as project manager.
>> Me ??? - My 8 hours work already taken toll on me and Im not as young as
>> before.
>> E1 - He need to finish up his PHD and hopely will return to contribute
>> but dengarnya nak ke Dubai. :)
>>
>> Others - Senyap aje...
>>
>> We can plan and already has the plan and share it with all of you but no
>> taker.
>>
>> So what I'm doing now?
>>
>> Provoking
>>
>> In my own ways. Push issues thats can later taken up much more
>> seriously by others. May be not in this community by later or today or
>> later years. But I keep on push the ideas and plan thats we have plan.
>>
>> I could not be a BASTARD. Its not me. I trust people, even you my
>> friend and I will not judge a person.
>>
>> This community need leadership but sorry to say. I could not give
>> that... My borrowed time soon be over.
>>
>> and before its over. I'll do anything thats I can to setup the
>> foundation right. I do agree with you Eric.
>>
>> We need to focus.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Let's set up a Kumpulan Peminat Bastard

Eric

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:40 PM, rafe azsnal  wrote:

> Huh... Eric I'm up to be the biggest bastard ever! T&C apply... ask red1 he
> teach me good...
>
> rafe
>
> On Apr 30, 2011 8:37 PM, "Garfield WTF"  wrote:
>
> I am willing to work together with you in this, if there is no one stopping
> me from doing so.
>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[red1]

Brader Haris,
I believe we can all rise above ourselves. After finding out about your
*secret* but powerful family building skills, i say to myself, "Now,
that is a real man. A good man". I know many others who just talk but
cannot achieve that. And if they do, they do it the 'other' but haram
way. I respect you bro.

On 4/30/11 6:45 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote:
Haris,
  
I know the feeling, I only have one kid at the moment and with work
commitments + family there is not a whole lot of time I can give to
FOSS. 
  
But I am willing to try. 
  
Who is willing to work with me?
  
Eric
  
  On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:58 AM,
Harisfazillah Jamel 
wrote:
  Eric,

My time with community is borrowing time from, of my life with my
family and career. Its has its limit and its going to be over soon.

Its year 3 now I'm with the community, push in any ways that I could
do to make this community move and growth.

But sadly, we lack of leadership.

We can define any goals or roadmap or any professional ways of doing
things. But who the takers?

Fazli ??? - He is now busy with his office work as project manager.
Me ??? - My 8 hours work already taken toll on me and Im not as young
as before.
E1 - He need to finish up his PHD and hopely will return to contribute
but dengarnya nak ke Dubai. :)

Others - Senyap aje...

We can plan and already has the plan and share it with all of you but
no taker.

So what I'm doing now?

Provoking

In my own ways. Push issues thats can later taken up much more
seriously by others. May be not in this community by later or today or
later years. But I keep on push the ideas and plan thats we have plan.

I could not be a BASTARD. Its not me. I trust people, even you my
friend and I will not judge a person.

This community need leadership but sorry to say. I could not give
that... My borrowed time soon be over.

and before its over. I'll do anything thats I can to setup the
foundation right. I do agree with you Eric.

We need to focus.

Thank you.

  
  






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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[red1]

Miss me Rafe?

I don't teach good nowadays. Me too busy trying to be the best. If i
want to kick real big ass (aka SAP) i got to isolate myself to that
singular mind, away more from noise. :) But rest assured once i grasp
some real brand at the world stage, i will put all your names as my
khadams, peers and some even as gurus. Likewise you may refer to me
too, at least as a fellow Malaysian.

*Sigh* I am still a patriotic Malaysian, even though there are mistakes
the govt does on a geographic scale, i still believe we have the best
system given the history and circumcision. I don't believe in the
ratings from the UN nor reviewed by fellow OSCC reviewer, Raja
Iskandar. I believe in my own, and as i have travelled the open seas
and land, i can confidently say that to prove onself is not to blame
others, but to see in him or herself the ways Allah has given, to reach
what others term as 'was impossible'.

red1

On 4/30/11 8:40 PM, rafe azsnal wrote:

  Huh... Eric I'm up to be the biggest bastard ever! T&C
apply... ask red1 he teach me good... 
  rafe 
  On Apr 30, 2011 8:37 PM, "Garfield WTF"
 wrote:

I am willing to work together with you in this, if there is no one
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[rafe azsnal]

Huh... Eric I'm up to be the biggest bastard ever! T&C apply... ask red1 he
teach me good...

rafe

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[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Haris,

I know the feeling, I only have one kid at the moment and with work
commitments + family there is not a whole lot of time I can give to FOSS.

But I am willing to try.

Who is willing to work with me?

Eric

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:58 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eric,
>
> My time with community is borrowing time from, of my life with my
> family and career. Its has its limit and its going to be over soon.
>
> Its year 3 now I'm with the community, push in any ways that I could
> do to make this community move and growth.
>
> But sadly, we lack of leadership.
>
> We can define any goals or roadmap or any professional ways of doing
> things. But who the takers?
>
> Fazli ??? - He is now busy with his office work as project manager.
> Me ??? - My 8 hours work already taken toll on me and Im not as young as
> before.
> E1 - He need to finish up his PHD and hopely will return to contribute
> but dengarnya nak ke Dubai. :)
>
> Others - Senyap aje...
>
> We can plan and already has the plan and share it with all of you but no
> taker.
>
> So what I'm doing now?
>
> Provoking
>
> In my own ways. Push issues thats can later taken up much more
> seriously by others. May be not in this community by later or today or
> later years. But I keep on push the ideas and plan thats we have plan.
>
> I could not be a BASTARD. Its not me. I trust people, even you my
> friend and I will not judge a person.
>
> This community need leadership but sorry to say. I could not give
> that... My borrowed time soon be over.
>
> and before its over. I'll do anything thats I can to setup the
> foundation right. I do agree with you Eric.
>
> We need to focus.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
> > You guys perhaps misunderstood me.
> >
> > Artwork is just one of the more visible identity, with due respects to to
> > ApOGEE's talents and hard work.
> >
> > What about goals? Mission Statements? Philosophy? - in short what are our
> > game plan? What is the story we stick to if someone asks, "WTF is
> OSDC.my?".
> > What is the 10-minute pitch we would sell to potential sponsors? What is
> the
> > 5-minute pitch we sell to techies?
> >
> > If you want to do it right and be a respectable organisation, these
> things
> > are "necessary evils". We can have as many Kopitiam/Mamak session as you
> > want until the end of time, but if these things are not ironed out, it
> will
> > just be a social organisation.
> >
> > Is that what OSDC.my will become?
> >
> > Be a bastard now and put your feet down. People respect you Haris. Good
> guys
> > get all the sympathies, best wishes but can it propel and push things
> > forward?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Team,
> >>
> >> Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have
> >> discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip...
> >>
> >> Kelip-kelip as
> >>
> >> --- Apogee comment in FB
> >>
> >> MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya
> >> walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada
> >> lebih ramai... wahlau
> >>
> >> Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_125842900827482
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >> So all more feedback needed.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness 
> >> wrote:
> >> > 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting?
> >> > 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov
> >> > project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we
> >> > sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n
> >> > company will do the job.(or any other idea :D )
> >> > 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice
> >> > or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot..
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Lets start at things that we can work out together
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
> >> >> Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)
> >> >>
> >> >> 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
> >> >> key for our country innovation
> >> >>
> >> >> 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.
> >> >>
> >> >> 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step
> in
> >> >>> a
> >> >>> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
> >> >>> Eric
> >> >>>
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Eric,

My time with community is borrowing time from, of my life with my
family and career. Its has its limit and its going to be over soon.

Its year 3 now I'm with the community, push in any ways that I could
do to make this community move and growth.

But sadly, we lack of leadership.

We can define any goals or roadmap or any professional ways of doing
things. But who the takers?

Fazli ??? - He is now busy with his office work as project manager.
Me ??? - My 8 hours work already taken toll on me and Im not as young as before.
E1 - He need to finish up his PHD and hopely will return to contribute
but dengarnya nak ke Dubai. :)

Others - Senyap aje...

We can plan and already has the plan and share it with all of you but no taker.

So what I'm doing now?

Provoking

In my own ways. Push issues thats can later taken up much more
seriously by others. May be not in this community by later or today or
later years. But I keep on push the ideas and plan thats we have plan.

I could not be a BASTARD. Its not me. I trust people, even you my
friend and I will not judge a person.

This community need leadership but sorry to say. I could not give
that... My borrowed time soon be over.

and before its over. I'll do anything thats I can to setup the
foundation right. I do agree with you Eric.

We need to focus.

Thank you.


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> You guys perhaps misunderstood me.
>
> Artwork is just one of the more visible identity, with due respects to to
> ApOGEE's talents and hard work.
>
> What about goals? Mission Statements? Philosophy? - in short what are our
> game plan? What is the story we stick to if someone asks, "WTF is OSDC.my?".
> What is the 10-minute pitch we would sell to potential sponsors? What is the
> 5-minute pitch we sell to techies?
>
> If you want to do it right and be a respectable organisation, these things
> are "necessary evils". We can have as many Kopitiam/Mamak session as you
> want until the end of time, but if these things are not ironed out, it will
> just be a social organisation.
>
> Is that what OSDC.my will become?
>
> Be a bastard now and put your feet down. People respect you Haris. Good guys
> get all the sympathies, best wishes but can it propel and push things
> forward?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>>
>> Team,
>>
>> Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have
>> discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip...
>>
>> Kelip-kelip as
>>
>> --- Apogee comment in FB
>>
>> MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya
>> walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada
>> lebih ramai... wahlau
>>
>> Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_125842900827482
>>
>> ---
>>
>> So all more feedback needed.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness 
>> wrote:
>> > 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting?
>> > 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov
>> > project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we
>> > sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n
>> > company will do the job.(or any other idea :D )
>> > 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice
>> > or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot..
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Lets start at things that we can work out together
>> >>
>> >> 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.
>> >>
>> >> 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
>> >> Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)
>> >>
>> >> 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
>> >> key for our country innovation
>> >>
>> >> 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.
>> >>
>> >> 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in
>> >>> a
>> >>> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
>> >>> Eric
>> >>>
>>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

You guys perhaps misunderstood me.

Artwork is just one of the more visible identity, with due respects to to
ApOGEE's talents and hard work.

What about goals? Mission Statements? Philosophy? - in short what are our
game plan? What is the story we stick to if someone asks, "WTF is OSDC.my?".
What is the 10-minute pitch we would sell to potential sponsors? What is the
5-minute pitch we sell to techies?

If you want to do it right and be a respectable organisation, these things
are "necessary evils". We can have as many Kopitiam/Mamak session as you
want until the end of time, but if these things are not ironed out, it will
just be a social organisation.

Is that what OSDC.my will become?

Be a bastard now and put your feet down. People respect you Haris. Good guys
get all the sympathies, best wishes but can it propel and push things
forward?

Eric


On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Team,
>
> Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have
> discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip...
>
> Kelip-kelip as
>
> --- Apogee comment in FB
>
> MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya
> walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada
> lebih ramai... wahlau
>
> Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook
>
> https://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_125842900827482
>
> ---
>
> So all more feedback needed.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness 
> wrote:
> > 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting?
> > 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov
> > project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we
> > sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n
> > company will do the job.(or any other idea :D )
> > 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice
> > or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot..
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >  wrote:
> >> Lets start at things that we can work out together
> >>
> >> 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.
> >>
> >> 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
> >> Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)
> >>
> >> 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
> >> key for our country innovation
> >>
> >> 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.
> >>
> >> 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a
> >>> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
> >>> Eric
> >>>
>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Team,

Apogee is going to do the artwork for us. So we need feedback. We have
discuss to add in Malaysia flag and kelip-kelip...

Kelip-kelip as

--- Apogee comment in FB

MFauzilkamil Zinedine - setuju ngan Hardyweb. kelip2 ada cahaya
walaupun kecil, suka lepak ramai2, akan jadi lebih terang bila ada
lebih ramai... wahlau

Join us in OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook

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So all more feedback needed.


On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:36 PM, darXness darXness  wrote:
> 1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting?
> 2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov
> project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we
> sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n
> company will do the job.(or any other idea :D )
> 3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice
> or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot..
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>> Lets start at things that we can work out together
>>
>> 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.
>>
>> 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
>> Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)
>>
>> 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
>> key for our country innovation
>>
>> 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.
>>
>> 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>>  wrote:
>>> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a
>>> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
>>> Eric
>>>

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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[darXness darXness]

1.how about meetup at hackerspace like previous meeting?
2.maybe this one is not an easy task.but maybe we can try gov
project..maybe.n i think many of us already have company,can we
sub?like,kostem will manage all the paperwork,proposal or anything,n
company will do the job.(or any other idea :D )
3.can we organize short course training to company?not just openoffice
or any OSS.if CISCO or Windows server maybe boleh kot..

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
> Lets start at things that we can work out together
>
> 1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.
>
> 2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
> Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)
>
> 3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
> key for our country innovation
>
> 4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.
>
> 5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
>> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a
>> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:23 AM, darXness darXness 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> to much we have to standardise...
>>> MOSC = Community or conference
>>> FOSS@OSS@FLOSS?
>>> Linux or GNU/Linux?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Lets start at things that we can work out together

1) Meetup once a month to all so we can share and know each others.

2) A project that we can do it together to make it community project.
Development project 1Malaysia email alternative may be. :)

3) Buildup kumpulan pelobi that will lobbing Open Source Solution as
key for our country innovation

4) KOSTEM and Consortium must happen in 3 years time.

5) agree with Eric, artwork for our own community.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a
> branding exercise. It is part of an identity.
> Eric
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:23 AM, darXness darXness 
> wrote:
>>
>> to much we have to standardise...
>> MOSC = Community or conference
>> FOSS@OSS@FLOSS?
>> Linux or GNU/Linux?
>>
>>

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[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Getting the right words, terms, artwork together is the first step in a
branding exercise. It is part of an identity.

Eric


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:23 AM, darXness darXness wrote:

> to much we have to standardise...
> MOSC = Community or conference
> FOSS@OSS@FLOSS?
> Linux or GNU/Linux?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
>  wrote:
> > Also we need to even standardise on the term; are we to use OSS or FOSS?
> > I personally prefer FLOSS or FOSS as it is more inclusive. Open Source
> > doesn't necessarily mean Free Software; since only GPL/LGPL are
> considered
> > truly free licenses as per to FSF.
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> MOSC both can be used, community and conference. Its ours as
> >> community. Kami dalam core hanya pemegang amanah (fiduciary). I hope
> >> we can hand it over into larger group and official committee. Until
> >> then, we do our best.
> >>
> >> Back to our main topic.
> >>
> >> For branding OSS as software, as brand as whole brand... So we can
> >> market its properly and better planning.
> >>
> >> Microsoft has strong branding in Malaysia. Like Colgate for ubat gigi,
> >> brezee for pencuci baju, Microsoft for software and Google for search.
> >> We need to break that.
> >>
> >> We need to have branding in Malaysia that when we said it, people know
> >> its from Open Source Software. The best among the software. Hehehe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, darXness darXness  >
> >> wrote:
> >> > errr.sorry,is it Malaysia Open Source Community or Conference?got
> >> > little confuse right there.i know OSDC.my and other community.is it
> >> > new community?
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Team,
> >> >>
> >> >> Ligh bulb menyala.
> >> >>
> >> >> Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that
> >> >> we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software
> and
> >> >> stick into their mind.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark
> >> >>
> >> >> 3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have
> >> >> one campaign?
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >>
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+1

2011/4/25, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte :
> Also we need to even standardise on the term; are we to use OSS or FOSS?
>
> I personally prefer FLOSS or FOSS as it is more inclusive. Open Source
> doesn't necessarily mean Free Software; since only GPL/LGPL are considered
> truly free licenses as per to FSF.
>
> Eric


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[darXness darXness]

to much we have to standardise...
MOSC = Community or conference
FOSS@OSS@FLOSS?
Linux or GNU/Linux?


On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte
 wrote:
> Also we need to even standardise on the term; are we to use OSS or FOSS?
> I personally prefer FLOSS or FOSS as it is more inclusive. Open Source
> doesn't necessarily mean Free Software; since only GPL/LGPL are considered
> truly free licenses as per to FSF.
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>>
>> MOSC both can be used, community and conference. Its ours as
>> community. Kami dalam core hanya pemegang amanah (fiduciary). I hope
>> we can hand it over into larger group and official committee. Until
>> then, we do our best.
>>
>> Back to our main topic.
>>
>> For branding OSS as software, as brand as whole brand... So we can
>> market its properly and better planning.
>>
>> Microsoft has strong branding in Malaysia. Like Colgate for ubat gigi,
>> brezee for pencuci baju, Microsoft for software and Google for search.
>> We need to break that.
>>
>> We need to have branding in Malaysia that when we said it, people know
>> its from Open Source Software. The best among the software. Hehehe.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, darXness darXness 
>> wrote:
>> > errr.sorry,is it Malaysia Open Source Community or Conference?got
>> > little confuse right there.i know OSDC.my and other community.is it
>> > new community?
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>> >  wrote:
>> >> Team,
>> >>
>> >> Ligh bulb menyala.
>> >>
>> >> Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that
>> >> we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software and
>> >> stick into their mind.
>> >>
>> >> 1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia
>> >>
>> >> 2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark
>> >>
>> >> 3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have
>> >> one campaign?
>> >>
>> >> What do you think?
>> >>
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[Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte]

Also we need to even standardise on the term; are we to use OSS or FOSS?

I personally prefer FLOSS or FOSS as it is more inclusive. Open Source
doesn't necessarily mean Free Software; since only GPL/LGPL are considered
truly free licenses as per to FSF.

Eric


On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> MOSC both can be used, community and conference. Its ours as
> community. Kami dalam core hanya pemegang amanah (fiduciary). I hope
> we can hand it over into larger group and official committee. Until
> then, we do our best.
>
> Back to our main topic.
>
> For branding OSS as software, as brand as whole brand... So we can
> market its properly and better planning.
>
> Microsoft has strong branding in Malaysia. Like Colgate for ubat gigi,
> brezee for pencuci baju, Microsoft for software and Google for search.
> We need to break that.
>
> We need to have branding in Malaysia that when we said it, people know
> its from Open Source Software. The best among the software. Hehehe.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, darXness darXness 
> wrote:
> > errr.sorry,is it Malaysia Open Source Community or Conference?got
> > little confuse right there.i know OSDC.my and other community.is it
> > new community?
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >  wrote:
> >> Team,
> >>
> >> Ligh bulb menyala.
> >>
> >> Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that
> >> we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software and
> >> stick into their mind.
> >>
> >> 1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia
> >>
> >> 2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark
> >>
> >> 3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have
> >> one campaign?
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
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[Harisfazillah Jamel]

MOSC both can be used, community and conference. Its ours as
community. Kami dalam core hanya pemegang amanah (fiduciary). I hope
we can hand it over into larger group and official committee. Until
then, we do our best.

Back to our main topic.

For branding OSS as software, as brand as whole brand... So we can
market its properly and better planning.

Microsoft has strong branding in Malaysia. Like Colgate for ubat gigi,
brezee for pencuci baju, Microsoft for software and Google for search.
We need to break that.

We need to have branding in Malaysia that when we said it, people know
its from Open Source Software. The best among the software. Hehehe.



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:05 AM, darXness darXness  wrote:
> errr.sorry,is it Malaysia Open Source Community or Conference?got
> little confuse right there.i know OSDC.my and other community.is it
> new community?
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> Ligh bulb menyala.
>>
>> Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that
>> we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software and
>> stick into their mind.
>>
>> 1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia
>>
>> 2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark
>>
>> 3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have
>> one campaign?
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
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[darXness darXness]

errr.sorry,is it Malaysia Open Source Community or Conference?got
little confuse right there.i know OSDC.my and other community.is it
new community?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
> Team,
>
> Ligh bulb menyala.
>
> Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that
> we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software and
> stick into their mind.
>
> 1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia
>
> 2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark
>
> 3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have
> one campaign?
>
> What do you think?
>
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[osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Team,

Ligh bulb menyala.

Malaysia Open Source Community need a brand or logo or anything that
we can use to make ordinary people know about Open Source Software and
stick into their mind.

1) What logo or name we can use? locally for Malaysia

2) One person or organisation need to hold the trademark

3) How we want to do this. Can we coodinate with each other to have
one campaign?

What do you think?

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