[oXygen-user] Need help with a Schematron rule
Hi Franz-Josef,
Thank you very much for your help. Your code indeed does work! I don't
know what made it fail previously...
Any idea about this error message which keeps popping up at the bottom
of the window when I save a Schematron rule file?
access denied ("java.security.AllPermission" ""
"")
I can save the *.sch file despite this message, but it's annoying
because it requires an additional click on the "Save anyway" button.
Regards,
Frank
Am 14.02.2024 um 13:05 schrieb Franz-Josef Knelangen:
Hi Frank,
the provided code works: added it to my rules.sch and removed the ph
to catch all keyref‘ed elements:
No blanks allowed
inside keyref'ed elements
Now it reports correctly – the yellow elements have red underlines in
Oxy – they don’t come over with the clipboard:
Test Schematron
And only these 2 in the “Problems” pod:
No blanks allowed inside keyref'ed elements
No blanks allowed inside keyref'ed elements
Must be something else in your configuration…
Greetings,
Franz-Josef
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[oXygen-user] Need help with a Schematron rule
Hm,
The rule incorrectly outputs the warning when there is no blank in the
element, even with the change you're proposing.
All DITA elements seem to have a class attribute. The other Schematron
rules I am using are all written with class attributes and they work.
I don't know if the following has to do with this issue. Since today I
am always getting the following error when I save a Schematron rule. I
then click "Save anyway".
access denied ("java.security.AllPermission" ""
"")
I don't know what is causing this.
Am 14.02.2024 um 10:02 schrieb David Maus:
Moin!
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 09:48:18 +0100,
Frank Dissinger wrote:
[1 ]
[1.1 ]
[1.2 ]
Hi all,
I want to write a Schematron rule which checks whether a keyref'ed element
contains a blank character.
WRONG:
CORRECT:
I adapted another rule and tried the following, but it does not work as
expected.
In addition, it should apply to any keyref'ed element, not only to .
http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron;>
No blank allowed inside
keyref'ed ph elements
Your rule matches all elements with @keyref and with an @class
attribute that contains 'ph'.
The two examples do not have a @class attribute, thus the rule doesn't
fire.
Maybe rewrite the rule as
sch:rule context="*[@keyref]"?
HTH,
-- David
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Frank
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[oXygen-user] Need help with a Schematron rule
Hi all, I want to write a Schematron rule which checks whether a keyref'ed element contains a blank character. WRONG: CORRECT: I adapted another rule and tried the following, but it does not work as expected. In addition, it should apply to any keyref'ed element, not only to . xmlns:sch="http://purl.oclc.org/dsdl/schematron;> No blank allowed inside keyref'ed ph elements Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS ORIS GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep
Thank you to Radu and the others who replied to my question. I understand that the best way to create tables with grid lines everywhere is when you set both @frame, @colsep and @rowsep = "1" for the element. It can be done differently, but this is likely to be rendered correctly with every default transformation and needs less effort than having to set @colsep and @rowsep for other elements like or each and every . I have adjusted my Schematron rules accordingly. Regards, Frank Am 13.04.2023 um 07:29 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, About this question: So perhaps, to keep my DITA data portable and to ensure they are rendered correctly with other transformations, it would be safer to also set @colsep and @rowsep to "1". But really for each ? Wouldn't it be enough for ? Setting the attributes on the table or tgroup will propagate the values as inherited for each table cell. So you do not need to set them individually on each cell. You only would do that if you want the table cell to have a different value of @rowsep/@colsep than the value set on the table. Setting the attributes on the colspec will influence only the entries in that column. Also link to CALS table specs: https://www.oasis-open.org/specs/a502.htm Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 4/12/23 18:18, Frank Dissinger wrote: Thank you! Hm... These attributes were set on and in my DITA files, but not on , and the attribute value was sometimes = "0", sometimes = "1". Nevertheless the tables rendered correctly, but perhaps only because I have set up the CSS and MiramoPDF styles to create frames for all table cells for all elements. I'll have to investigate this... So perhaps, to keep my DITA data portable and to ensure they are rendered correctly with other transformations, it would be safer to also set @colsep and @rowsep to "1". But really for each ? Wouldn't it be enough for ? Frank Am 12.04.2023 um 16:36 schrieb Michael Boudreau: For a CALS table, *@frame=**"**all"*draws a border around all four outside edges of the table; it does not affect the interior lines. See https://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/options/OASIS/tag-library/19990315/index.html To indicate a table with all the grid lines visible, CALS requires *@frame=**"**all"*as well as *@colsep=**"**1"*and *@rowsep=**"**1"*on all elements (you can omit colsep on the rightmost cells and rowsep on the finalrow). -- Michael R. Boudreau Electronic Publishing Technology Manager The University of Chicago Press 1427 E. 60^th Street Chicago, IL 60637 www.journals.uchicago.edu *From: *oXygen-user on behalf of Frank Dissinger *Date: *Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:26 AM *To: *Oxygen User Mailing List *Subject: *[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep Hi all, Can someone shed some light on how the *@colsep* and*@rowsep* attributes are used for CALS tables? The information I found is not clear and detailed enough for me. I understand that these attributes create separator lines for colums and rows. Do I only need these attributes when I do not set *@frame="all"* to create lines for particular rows or columns only? For a normal CALS table with lines for all rows and columns (i.e. like a grid), is enough to set *@frame="all"* or do I additionally need these attributes? The code that Oxygen creates (see below) with these settings (i.e. without these attributes) ... does not have these *@colsep* and*@rowsep* attributes, only *@frame="all"*, and is rendered as desired with my CHM and PDF transformations. I have several tables with *@colsep*/*@rowsep="0" *or*="1"*. These attributes may have been added by FrameMaker when I converted unstructured content to DITA. Can I safely remove all of these attributes when I just want a CALS table with row and line separators every (like a grid)? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep
Thank you! Hm... These attributes were set on and in my DITA files, but not on , and the attribute value was sometimes = "0", sometimes = "1". Nevertheless the tables rendered correctly, but perhaps only because I have set up the CSS and MiramoPDF styles to create frames for all table cells for all elements. I'll have to investigate this... So perhaps, to keep my DITA data portable and to ensure they are rendered correctly with other transformations, it would be safer to also set @colsep and @rowsep to "1". But really for each ? Wouldn't it be enough for ? Frank Am 12.04.2023 um 16:36 schrieb Michael Boudreau: For a CALS table, *@frame=**"**all"*draws a border around all four outside edges of the table; it does not affect the interior lines. See https://dtd.nlm.nih.gov/options/OASIS/tag-library/19990315/index.html To indicate a table with all the grid lines visible, CALS requires *@frame=**"**all"*as well as *@colsep=**"**1"*and *@rowsep=**"**1"*on all elements (you can omit colsep on the rightmost cells and rowsep on the finalrow). -- Michael R. Boudreau Electronic Publishing Technology Manager The University of Chicago Press 1427 E. 60^th Street Chicago, IL 60637 www.journals.uchicago.edu *From: *oXygen-user on behalf of Frank Dissinger *Date: *Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 9:26 AM *To: *Oxygen User Mailing List *Subject: *[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep Hi all, Can someone shed some light on how the *@colsep* and*@rowsep* attributes are used for CALS tables? The information I found is not clear and detailed enough for me. I understand that these attributes create separator lines for colums and rows. Do I only need these attributes when I do not set *@frame="all"* to create lines for particular rows or columns only? For a normal CALS table with lines for all rows and columns (i.e. like a grid), is enough to set *@frame="all"* or do I additionally need these attributes? The code that Oxygen creates (see below) with these settings (i.e. without these attributes) ... does not have these *@colsep* and*@rowsep* attributes, only *@frame="all"*, and is rendered as desired with my CHM and PDF transformations. I have several tables with *@colsep*/*@rowsep="0" *or*="1"*. These attributes may have been added by FrameMaker when I converted unstructured content to DITA. Can I safely remove all of these attributes when I just want a CALS table with row and line separators every (like a grid)? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Understanding @colsep and @rowsep
Hi all, Can someone shed some light on how the *@colsep* and*@rowsep* attributes are used for CALS tables? The information I found is not clear and detailed enough for me. I understand that these attributes create separator lines for colums and rows. Do I only need these attributes when I do not set *@frame="all"* to create lines for particular rows or columns only? For a normal CALS table with lines for all rows and columns (i.e. like a grid), is enough to set *@frame="all"* or do I additionally need these attributes? The code that Oxygen creates (see below) with these settings (i.e. without these attributes) ... does not have these *@colsep* and*@rowsep* attributes, only *@frame="all"*, and is rendered as desired with my CHM and PDF transformations. I have several tables with *@colsep*/*@rowsep="0" *or*="1"*. These attributes may have been added by FrameMaker when I converted unstructured content to DITA. Can I safely remove all of these attributes when I just want a CALS table with row and line separators every (like a grid)? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter
Hi Franz-Josef, Thank you for your reply. The problem is that I do not want create any duplicates at all. All I want is inject additional information into a topic. Regards, Frank Am 29.03.2023 um 07:44 schrieb Franz-Josef Knelangen: Frank: >> I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not create the desired result as duplicates of every reused topic are created. This is not what I want and it messes up many topic references. Can I set up branch filtering differently so that no topic duplicates are created? Probably not... I use a generated prefix to realize duplicates. The affected topics all start with an underscore, _topic-name.dita, so that the generated topics look like * bahn_topic-name.html * strasse_topic-name.html Greetings Franz-Josef bahn strasse * Franz-Josef Knelangen** *Leiter Dokumentation Main: +49 7634 5612-0 Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/akgsoftware/>| Xing <https://www.xing.com/pages/akgsoftware>| LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/company/18590571>| YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/c/AKGSoftware-infrastructure> AKG Software Consulting GmbH *AKG Software Consulting GmbH* Uhlandstr. 12 D-79423 Heitersheim www.akgsoftware.de <https://www.akgsoftware.de/> Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Artur K. Günther, Dipl.-Ing. Arno Brüggemann, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Bernhard Feser, Dipl.-Ing. Jens Günther Sitz der Gesellschaft: Heitersheim, HRB 310383 (Amtsgericht Freiburg i. Br.)** ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter
Hi Radu, Thank you for the link. Hm... If the pushed content is not shown in the Oxygen Editor, then the feature is not really useful for me. I need to see it to have control over what I am doing. The conref-push content does not appear in CHM output either. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that I still use oXygen V21.1 to generate CHM output. (I made some XSL customizations which are not easy for me to apply to V25, a bit difficult and lengthy to explain...). It appears much simpler for me to filter the contents out. But owing to the way my process is set up, I would need to apply a second ditaval file. Can I specify two ditaval files for the "args.filter" argument? This would be the best. And I would need a second attribute in addition to "product", otherwise I would have to edit each and every element that uses a "product" attribute. There are not so many attributes available. Perhaps I could (mis)use "platform"... (for indicating the project). I heard of ditvalref branch filtering and I tested this. It does not create the desired result as duplicates of every reused topic are created. This is not what I want and it messes up many topic references. Can I set up branch filtering differently so that no topic duplicates are created? Probably not... The reason is that my ditaval files contain conditions for creating variants (oem1, oem2, etc. -- no condition stands for the base product) of a product group (project1, project 2). The same ditaval conditions (oem1, oem2, etc.) are used across different product groups. It never occurred to me to filter on product groups (projects) because I use root ditamaps stored in different folders to create output for different product groups. Regards, Frank Am 27.03.2023 um 18:50 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, Maybe this will help: https://blog.oxygenxml.com/presentation-reuse/conref_push.html One remark, Oxygen will not show the pushed content in place but publishing should work. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 3/27/23 18:05, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi all, I have tested the "DITA > Push Current element" feature, but cannot get it to work. I want to inject a element into a shared topic which is used in two projects. The element to be injected is stored in a warehouse topic for project 1. What I want is to inject this element only when project 1 is built. When project 2 is built, the key to the warehouse topic resolves to a different file which doese not include the element. So what I hope is that the element is only injected when I build project 1 and that it is left out when I build project 2 -- without any error or warning generated in the log file or in Oxygen's editor window. However, the element does not appear in project 1 and in Oxygen it is shown as an empty struture. In a previous attempt the element was shown in the editor window, but not in output either. I can't remember what I did differently... I may not have undestood this feature correctly. Can someone enlighten me? Thank you. Regards, Frank The dita code: * * *file.dita* A term. The term in lib_ref.dita should be injected after that. Explanation *lib_ref.dita * The term to inject after the term in file.dita Explanation *variables.ditamap* Appearance in oXygen. -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur> ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no.
[oXygen-user] Struggling with conkeyref/conaction=pushafter
Hi all, I have tested the "DITA > Push Current element" feature, but cannot get it to work. I want to inject a element into a shared topic which is used in two projects. The element to be injected is stored in a warehouse topic for project 1. What I want is to inject this element only when project 1 is built. When project 2 is built, the key to the warehouse topic resolves to a different file which doese not include the element. So what I hope is that the element is only injected when I build project 1 and that it is left out when I build project 2 -- without any error or warning generated in the log file or in Oxygen's editor window. However, the element does not appear in project 1 and in Oxygen it is shown as an empty struture. In a previous attempt the element was shown in the editor window, but not in output either. I can't remember what I did differently... I may not have undestood this feature correctly. Can someone enlighten me? Thank you. Regards, Frank The dita code: * * *file.dita* A term. The term in lib_ref.dita should be injected after that. Explanation *lib_ref.dita * The term to inject after the term in file.dita Explanation *variables.ditamap* Appearance in oXygen. -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] IDs for new DITA topics
I would like to add that I have defined topic templates in my custom
framework in which I have used the same setting which I used for "DITA >
ID Option". For example:
"generalTask.dtd">
xxxTITLExxx
xxxSHORTDESCRIPTIONxxx
xxxFIRST_STEPxxx
Am 27.03.2023 um 10:43 schrieb Frank Dissinger:
Hi all,
I understand that a topic ID must be unique within the scope of the
root ditamap used for publishing the content.
FrameMaker, which I used previously, creates IDs of the type
id172OC0C03J7
So there is an arbitrary combination of 11 digits and letters.
In oXygen I have set the "DITA > ID Option" as follows:
${localName}_${id}
Which creates IDs of the following type:
task_rf2_vcg_ywb
So there is an arbitrary combination of only 9 characters, mostly
letters. But perhaps sufficient for ensuring uniqueness...
However, when I use the "DITA > Insert > Insert New DITA Resource"
command, oXygen does not honor the "ID Option" setting, but creates
IDs which are identical to the file name.
This is not what I want and surely not suitable for ensuring uniqueness.
How can I get oXygen to honor the "ID Option" setting or make it
otherwise generate IDs with arbitrary characters which are likely to
be unique?
Regards,
Frank
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<http://www.cgs-oris.com/>
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[oXygen-user] IDs for new DITA topics
Hi all,
I understand that a topic ID must be unique within the scope of the root
ditamap used for publishing the content.
FrameMaker, which I used previously, creates IDs of the type
id172OC0C03J7
So there is an arbitrary combination of 11 digits and letters.
In oXygen I have set the "DITA > ID Option" as follows:
${localName}_${id}
Which creates IDs of the following type:
task_rf2_vcg_ywb
So there is an arbitrary combination of only 9 characters, mostly
letters. But perhaps sufficient for ensuring uniqueness...
However, when I use the "DITA > Insert > Insert New DITA Resource"
command, oXygen does not honor the "ID Option" setting, but creates IDs
which are identical to the file name.
This is not what I want and surely not suitable for ensuring uniqueness.
How can I get oXygen to honor the "ID Option" setting or make it
otherwise generate IDs with arbitrary characters which are likely to be
unique?
Regards,
Frank
--
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Documentation Manager
*CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH*
*Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com
<http://www.cgs-oris.com/>
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[oXygen-user] Do I need a namespace declaration in dita root elements?
Hi all, I am cleaning up DITA files created with FrameMaker. FrameMaker has added a lot of unnecessary attributes, for example. Among others, FM has added an *xmlns:ditaarch* attribute to every top-level dita element such as concept, task or reference. Example: *xmlns:ditaarch="http://dita.oasis-open.org/architecture/2005/"*> Can I safely remove this attribute or is it required? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Spell check exceptions per file?
Hi all, When spell checking a dita file, can I mark up words to be correct in the current file only, i.e. without adding them to the "learned words" for the project or globally? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Learned Words
Hi list, I have a list of correctly spelt words which I collected in FrameMaker. How can I add them to the list of "learned words" in oXygen? I added them to the *.tdi file, but oXygen overwrites this file when I use the spell checker and so the words are gone. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Ditamap archive?
*Great! Thank you!* Am 14.03.2023 um 14:54 schrieb Radu Coravu: Hi Frank, Yes, there is a contextual menu action for this in the DITA Maps Manager view: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/dita-maps-manager.html#dita-maps-manager__dlentry_nhl_dgk_54b Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 3/14/23 15:52, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi all, Does oXygen provide a tool which creates a ZIP archive of a ditamap with all referenced files? Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur> ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Ditamap archive?
Hi all, Does oXygen provide a tool which creates a ZIP archive of a ditamap with all referenced files? Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Schematron rule
HI Wendell,
Thank you very much. Works like a charm.
Regards,
Frank
Am 22.02.2023 um 14:22 schrieb Wendell Piez:
Frank,
There is an interesting feature of Schematron's design useful in a
case like yours, namely that within a pattern, only one rule may apply
to any element, and the first rule wins.
This means we can pre-empt the application of rules by writing other
rules.
For example:
li must have children
The second rule says "an li must have children". The first rule
intervenes for li elements that have @conref or an ancestor with
@conref - it does no checking so it is silent.
Try it and see how it goes --
Cheers, Wendell
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:35 AM Frank Dissinger
wrote:
Hi all,
I need a Schemtron rule which indicates an error when
elements do not have any child elements. No error schould be
indicated for elements with an "conkeyref" attribute and also
for elements which are children of any element with a
"conkeyref" attribute.
I have defined two separate rules...
List does not contain any child
elements
List does not contain any child
elements
... but I think I need to combine them into a single rule with an
OR or AND operator.
List does not contain any child
elements
However, this syntax is invalid. Can somebody help me?
Regards,
Frank
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[oXygen-user] Schematron rule
Hi all, I need a Schemtron rule which indicates an error when elements do not have any child elements. No error schould be indicated for elements with an "conkeyref" attribute and also for elements which are children of any element with a "conkeyref" attribute. I have defined two separate rules... List does not contain any child elements List does not contain any child elements ... but I think I need to combine them into a single rule with an OR or AND operator. List does not contain any child elements However, this syntax is invalid. Can somebody help me? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Inserting current date into DITA file
Hi Radu, Works like a charm. Thank you!!! Regards, Frank Am 14.02.2023 um 10:27 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, I created a small DITA OT plugin (please see attached) which adds the same customization you have for Miramo to all XHTML-based outputs, including CHM. You can look into it to see how the plugin works. DITA OT plugins are installed something like this: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/ug-editor/topics/dita-ot-install-plugin.html Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 2/14/23 10:50, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi Radu, Thank you for your reply. I am afraid I am not XSLT-savvy enough to adapt sketched code and I have never created any DITA-OT plugin. I would need the exact code and precise instructions where to put that code in the CHM transformation... I wonder whether the following solution I found for MiramoPDF could be adapted to oXygen's CHM transformation? Copyright.dita ...\Oxygen XML Editor 21\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT3.x\plugins\com.miramo.oris-mmpdf\config\xsl\custom.xsl http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; exclude-result-prefixes="xs opentopic" version="2.0" xmlns:mm="http://www.miramo.com/XSL/Transform; xmlns:opentopic="http://www.idiominc.com/opentopic;> *select="format-date(current-date(), '[Y0001]')"/> * Could this code be added somewhere in the CHM transformation? Regards, Frank Am 14.02.2023 um 07:10 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, An Oxygen editor variable expands only once. You seem to need some kind of macro which would expand every time you publish. So you seem to need more like a publishing customization. For DITA XML maybe you can use the element with a certain name: and then create a DITA Open Toolkit XSLT-based customization plugin which matches this element at publishing time and replaces it with the current date. Are you familiar with XSLT? Would you like to pursue this direction? If so maybe I can try to sketch a small publishing plugin which would do this. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 2/13/23 18:36, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi list, How can I insert the current date into a dita file? I would like to have oXygen automatically update the year of a copyright notice. I know that I can define editor variables. But how can I embed them in the dita code? If this needs to be tied to the XSL that produces the deliverable: I need this for CHM, which I generate with oXygen. (I have already found a solution for MiramoPDF. ) And I'd need to know where exactly to add the code... Thank you. Regards, Frank *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Expand/Collapse all with one cliock
These commands do what they say: The expand or collapse ALL. What I want
is: Expand or collapse only sibling elements (elements on the same level
as the element on which I click).
Am 13.02.2023 um 22:29 schrieb Stefan Jung:
Frank,
Have you tried the "collapse all" in the contextual menu?
Best
Gesendet mit OX Mail
Frank Dissinger <http://frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com>> hat am February 13, 2023 um
6:32 PM geschrieben:
Hi list,
Is it possible to expand/collapse all items at the same level with
just one click? I tried all combinations such as Ctrl-click,
Alt-click, Shift-Ctrl-click etc., but to know avail. I refer to
the Project window, DITA Maps Manager and Outline view. This would
be a useful feature. FrameMaker can do it!
Regards,
Frank
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[oXygen-user] Adding attributes to images inserted from DITA Reusable Components view
...because I do not know how to do it.
Am 13.02.2023 um 22:32 schrieb Stefan Jung:
Hi Frank,
If you always want to add the same attributes to all
images and Schematron is not good enough, why don't you create a new
element which has these attributes set by default? Or you override the
XSLT templates and add the attributes during the DITA-OT transformation?
BR
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Frank Dissinger <http://frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com>> hat am February 13, 2023 um
6:28 PM geschrieben:
Hi list,
I have defined Schematron rules which automatically add attributes
to elements when inserted.
However, these rules are not applied when inserting images using
the DITA Reusable Components view. Can this be done?
Regards,
Frank
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*Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99
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<http://www.cgs-oris.com/>
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[oXygen-user] Inserting current date into DITA file
Hi Stefan, Thank you for your reply. I already did a similar thing for the MiramoPDF plug-in: select="format-date(current-date(), '[Y0001]')"/> It was a matter of just adding this code to a "custom.xsl" file. In oXygen's CHM tranformation, I wouldn't know where add this code. I am not XSLT savvy enough. Regards, Frank Am 13.02.2023 um 22:39 schrieb Stefan Jung: Hi Frank, It depends a little bit where exactly you want to have that code and for what purpose. If you are looking for an inline element, which can be inserted everywhere, you can create a new element or you use, for example, a phrase element with an outputclass attribute and then inject the date in the format of your choice in XSLT. Best regards Gesendet mit OX Mail Frank Dissinger <http://frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com>> hat am February 13, 2023 um 5:37 PM geschrieben: Hi list, How can I insert the current date into a dita file? I would like to have oXygen automatically update the year of a copyright notice. I know that I can define editor variables. But how can I embed them in the dita code? If this needs to be tied to the XSL that produces the deliverable: I need this for CHM, which I generate with oXygen. (I have already found a solution for MiramoPDF. ) And I'd need to know where exactly to add the code... Thank you. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur> -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Inserting current date into DITA file
Hi Radu, Thank you for your reply. I am afraid I am not XSLT-savvy enough to adapt sketched code and I have never created any DITA-OT plugin. I would need the exact code and precise instructions where to put that code in the CHM transformation... I wonder whether the following solution I found for MiramoPDF could be adapted to oXygen's CHM transformation? Copyright.dita ...\Oxygen XML Editor 21\frameworks\dita\DITA-OT3.x\plugins\com.miramo.oris-mmpdf\config\xsl\custom.xsl http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform; xmlns:xs="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; exclude-result-prefixes="xs opentopic" version="2.0" xmlns:mm="http://www.miramo.com/XSL/Transform; xmlns:opentopic="http://www.idiominc.com/opentopic;> * * Could this code be added somewhere in the CHM transformation? Regards, Frank Am 14.02.2023 um 07:10 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, An Oxygen editor variable expands only once. You seem to need some kind of macro which would expand every time you publish. So you seem to need more like a publishing customization. For DITA XML maybe you can use the element with a certain name: and then create a DITA Open Toolkit XSLT-based customization plugin which matches this element at publishing time and replaces it with the current date. Are you familiar with XSLT? Would you like to pursue this direction? If so maybe I can try to sketch a small publishing plugin which would do this. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 2/13/23 18:36, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi list, How can I insert the current date into a dita file? I would like to have oXygen automatically update the year of a copyright notice. I know that I can define editor variables. But how can I embed them in the dita code? If this needs to be tied to the XSL that produces the deliverable: I need this for CHM, which I generate with oXygen. (I have already found a solution for MiramoPDF. ) And I'd need to know where exactly to add the code... Thank you. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur> ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Adding attributes to images inserted from DITA Reusable Components view
Hi Radu, Thank you for your reply. Sorry, what I meant was the "cc_config.xml" configuration file, not Schematron, of course. Sorry for the confusion. What I currently do is: I would also like to have this attribute applied when inserting images using the "DITA Reusable Components > Media" tab. Thank you for registering my feature request. Regards, Frank Am 14.02.2023 um 07:29 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, With Schematron you can report a validation error for example when an image does not have a certain attribute. You can also add a quick fix action to quickly add a certain attribute to an image if missing. But Schematron does not automatically make changes to the content inserted in the document. I suspect you used the Oxygen specific "cc_config.xml" configuration file to specify that the attribute @scale is required on an element. This indeed is not taken into account when images are inserted using the "DITA Reusable Components->Media" tab or the toolbar action to insert an image. I added an internal issue to consider improving this in a future version: EXM-52437 Take into account required attributes when inserting image references Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 2/13/23 19:28, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi list, I have defined Schematron rules which automatically add attributes to elements when inserted. However, these rules are not applied when inserting images using the DITA Reusable Components view. Can this be done? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Expand/Collapse all with one cliock
Hi list, Is it possible to expand/collapse all items at the same level with just one click? I tried all combinations such as Ctrl-click, Alt-click, Shift-Ctrl-click etc., but to know avail. I refer to the Project window, DITA Maps Manager and Outline view. This would be a useful feature. FrameMaker can do it! Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Adding attributes to images inserted from DITA Reusable Components view
Hi list, I have defined Schematron rules which automatically add attributes to elements when inserted. However, these rules are not applied when inserting images using the DITA Reusable Components view. Can this be done? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Hyphenation in Author mode?
Can words be hyphenated automatically in Author mode? -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Inserting current date into DITA file
Hi list, How can I insert the current date into a dita file? I would like to have oXygen automatically update the year of a copyright notice. I know that I can define editor variables. But how can I embed them in the dita code? If this needs to be tied to the XSL that produces the deliverable: I need this for CHM, which I generate with oXygen. (I have already found a solution for MiramoPDF. ) And I'd need to know where exactly to add the code... Thank you. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Image and table width in Author mode
Hi Radu, Kris, Stefan and Tony, Thank you for your replies. I do not use FrameMaker anymore, neither for editing nor for publishing to PDF. I use MiramoPDF for publishing to PDF and oXygen for publishing to CHM. Shifting back to FM is definitely not an option for me. The only thing I currently do is compare how DITA files look like in FM and oXygen to make sure they are presented in a similar way. I must be sure that the files are OK. If I see them completely differently, I get confused and start worrying that something has gone wrong... The DITA attribute "scale" would do the trick. [But strangely enough only if set to about "80" %, and not "61" % , which would be the equivalent to "92/150" dpi). However, I do not want to scale images in the published output, only in the editor. The good thing is: MiramoPDF ignores the "scale" attribute and leaves the images as they are in the PDF. The bad thing: oXygen applies this scaling in the CHM files (as expected, of course). Isn't there any trick to make the oXygen editor believe the "scale" attribute was set to "80", but without actually applying this attribute to the dita data? Couldn't this be implemented somehow? The use case is: In the editor window I would like to have a good estimate of how wide images are to see if they exceed the borders of an A4-sized page. This is especially important when I place multiple inline images in the same paragraph so that they are shown side by side. It looks ugly if there is a line break just because one of the image is a few pixels too wide. In FrameMaker I could see this exactly and then I would tweak the images a little in Photoshop to cut off a few pixels... It is good to know that there is an option in MiramoPDF (and other PDF rendering engines) that scales images automatically down to make them fit on the page. But this is not applicable to the use case I have just described. Moreover, the images may get blurred. I always sharpen them when I scale them down in Photoshop and make sure that text is still readable. As a workaround, can I display a kind of ruler in the oXygen window? I would like to see a thin vertical line at a user-defined pixel or mm position on the right-hand side of the editor window. This line would mark the end of the text column. I could do this with CSS (fixed width, border right), but the line shifts to the right if an image is wider. Best regards, Frank Am 10.02.2023 um 08:42 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, Please see some remarks below: All my images have PNG format and an "otherprops="fmdpi:xxx" attribute where xxx is usually 150, in some cases 140, 160 or similar. FrameMaker, my previous XML editor, honors this attribute and scales the images appropriately. Well it honors its own Frame specific custom attributes which are not defined in the DITA specification. Are you still publishing to PDF using Frame? I notice that oXygen displays images bigger in its editor compared to 150 dpi images in FrameMaker. Oxygen's default DPI is about 96 which is closer to the Web output. We have some CSS settings to change the DPI when publishing DITA to PDF using our CSS based engine: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dcpp_images.html but we do not have settings to change the DPI in the visual editor on a per-image base. I would need to reduce all images to about 66% of their size (= by factor 1.5). Unfortunately I do not know of any CSS style which scales images based on their own pixel size. Percentage values in CSS apply to the widht or height of the viewport. Yes, I also do not see a possible way to do this with CSS. DITA elements allow setting the width or scale attributes on them. Like: and Oxygen takes this into account. But we take it into account because we know it's DITA, not because of a certain CSS rule which could be modified to cover another attribute. Likewise, I would like to make sure that table columns are not too narrow on the PDF pages. Most XML editors are not what you see is what you get especially because XML can be published to multiple formats. The PDF may have a different font, it splits into pages, it has a certain page width... best you can do is to try and make things look more like the published content in the visual editor and check the PDF from time to time. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 2/9/23 15:08, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi list, I publish DITA content as online help and PDF. In oXygen's Author mode I would like to make sure that images do not exceed the width of the A4-sized PDF pages. Sometimes I also place two or more inline images side by side in a paragraph and want to make sure if all of them fit on the line or if th
[oXygen-user] Image and table width in Author mode
Hi list, I publish DITA content as online help and PDF. In oXygen's Author mode I would like to make sure that images do not exceed the width of the A4-sized PDF pages. Sometimes I also place two or more inline images side by side in a paragraph and want to make sure if all of them fit on the line or if there is a line break between them. All my images have PNG format and an "otherprops="fmdpi:xxx" attribute where xxx is usually 150, in some cases 140, 160 or similar. FrameMaker, my previous XML editor, honors this attribute and scales the images appropriately. I notice that oXygen displays images bigger in its editor compared to 150 dpi images in FrameMaker. I would need to reduce all images to about 66% of their size (= by factor 1.5). Unfortunately I do not know of any CSS style which scales images based on their own pixel size. Percentage values in CSS apply to the widht or height of the viewport. Likewise, I would like to make sure that table columns are not too narrow on the PDF pages. What can I do? Any ideas are welcome. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] DITA footnotes in Author mode
Hi list,
oXygen does not seem to have any special styling for DITA footnotes in
Author mode. They are just shown as inline elements in italics.
Has anybody managed to style footnots with CSS in a way similar to how
they would like on a page, i.e. on the bottom of the page with ascending
numbers and a superscript number at the location where the footnote is
referenced?
I made some attempts with "fn {position: absolute; bottom: -2em}", but
was not CSS-skilled enough to prevent the footnotes all being placed on
top of each other. And I don't know how to implement a counter for
elements that are scattered over the element tree (not children of the
same element).
Any ideas?
Regards,
Frank
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[oXygen-user] FM/OXY: Different DITA code for "conkeyref"
Hi list, As some of you know, I have just switched from FrameMaker to oXygen. I discovered that the two programs create different DITA code for ". oXygen creates an empty * *tag before the closing tag. Are both codes equally correct? Or is one better than the other? oXygen code: ** FrameMaker code: Referenced dita topic: Use this option to quickly find a specific color if many colors are loaded.Enter the first few letters or any part of the color name. This will select the first color the name of which is matched by these characters.If your input matches multiple colors, click on the small arrow to select a color from the list. This list contains only colors with names that contain the characters you have entered. BTW: This difference became obvious after defining a Schematron rule which outputs an error for elements which do not have any child elements. I have defined this rule and many similar ones because I want to wrap every paragraph in wherever is valid. The FM-generated code () is marked up as invalid by this rule. It would be a nightmare to change all these hundreds of "conkeyref"s in all my projects. Or should I just do without this check (i.e. the second "assert")? DD element must not contain any text. DD does not contain any child elements Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Inserting child elements automatically
Hi list, Whenever this is valid, I wrap text in a element. I would like oXygen to automatically insert as a child element when inserting , (for the table cells of course), , , ... and many more. How do I do this? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] DITA Reusable Components list (Keys tab) does not update
Oops, sorry... oXygen does support "rectangular selection". I first tried and it didn't work... But then tried again and it does... Am 18.01.2023 um 14:42 schrieb Frank Dissinger: Hi Franz-Josef, Thank you for your reply. oXygen does not seem to support selecting text vertically (like in Notepad++ or MS Word, with ALT key pressed down and mouse button moving up or down), which I use frequently. Notepad++ is my favorite text editor. I use it every day, e.g. for searching in files. Regards, Frank Am 18.01.2023 um 14:14 schrieb Franz-Josef Knelangen: Hi Frank, can’t imagine editing ditamaps with Notepad++ when I can simply “open map in Editor” in Oxygen (with all bells and whistles). If I change a key there and save the file, the DITA Reusable Components view is updated automatically. Try it, and you never go back to Notepad++ . Greetings, Franz-Josef * Franz-Josef Knelangen** *Leiter Dokumentation Direct: Main: Mobile: +49 7634 5612-0 +49 7634 5612-0 - Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/akgsoftware/>| Xing <https://www.xing.com/pages/akgsoftware>| LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/company/18590571>| YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/c/AKGSoftware-infrastructure> AKG Software Consulting GmbH *AKG Software Consulting GmbH* Uhlandstr. 12 D-79423 Heitersheim www.akgsoftware.de <https://www.akgsoftware.de/> Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Artur K. Günther, Dipl.-Ing. Arno Brüggemann, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Bernhard Feser, Dipl.-Ing. Jens Günther Sitz der Gesellschaft: Heitersheim, HRB 310383 (Amtsgericht Freiburg i. Br.)** *Von:* oXygen-user *Im Auftrag von *Frank Dissinger *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2023 13:29 *An:* Oxygen User Mailing List *Betreff:* [oXygen-user] DITA Reusable Components list (Keys tab) does not update Hi list, I am used to edit ditamaps with key definitions using Notepad++. Having done so, I do not know how to update the list of keys in the DITA Reusable Components window. I can reindex the information on the Components tab, but there is no reindexing function for the Keys tab and pressing F5 does not have any effect. What can I do other than editing the key definitions in oXygen? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] DITA Reusable Components list (Keys tab) does not update
Hi Franz-Josef, Thank you for your reply. oXygen does not seem to support selecting text vertically (like in Notepad++ or MS Word, with ALT key pressed down and mouse button moving up or down), which I use frequently. Notepad++ is my favorite text editor. I use it every day, e.g. for searching in files. Regards, Frank Am 18.01.2023 um 14:14 schrieb Franz-Josef Knelangen: Hi Frank, can’t imagine editing ditamaps with Notepad++ when I can simply “open map in Editor” in Oxygen (with all bells and whistles). If I change a key there and save the file, the DITA Reusable Components view is updated automatically. Try it, and you never go back to Notepad++ . Greetings, Franz-Josef * Franz-Josef Knelangen** *Leiter Dokumentation Direct: Main: Mobile: +49 7634 5612-0 +49 7634 5612-0 - Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/akgsoftware/>| Xing <https://www.xing.com/pages/akgsoftware>| LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/company/18590571>| YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/c/AKGSoftware-infrastructure> AKG Software Consulting GmbH *AKG Software Consulting GmbH* Uhlandstr. 12 D-79423 Heitersheim www.akgsoftware.de <https://www.akgsoftware.de/> Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Artur K. Günther, Dipl.-Ing. Arno Brüggemann, Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Bernhard Feser, Dipl.-Ing. Jens Günther Sitz der Gesellschaft: Heitersheim, HRB 310383 (Amtsgericht Freiburg i. Br.)** *Von:* oXygen-user *Im Auftrag von *Frank Dissinger *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 18. Januar 2023 13:29 *An:* Oxygen User Mailing List *Betreff:* [oXygen-user] DITA Reusable Components list (Keys tab) does not update Hi list, I am used to edit ditamaps with key definitions using Notepad++. Having done so, I do not know how to update the list of keys in the DITA Reusable Components window. I can reindex the information on the Components tab, but there is no reindexing function for the Keys tab and pressing F5 does not have any effect. What can I do other than editing the key definitions in oXygen? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] DITA Reusable Components list (Keys tab) does not update
Hi list, I am used to edit ditamaps with key definitions using Notepad++. Having done so, I do not know how to update the list of keys in the DITA Reusable Components window. I can reindex the information on the Components tab, but there is no reindexing function for the Keys tab and pressing F5 does not have any effect. What can I do other than editing the key definitions in oXygen? Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] CSS validation warnings
Hi Kris and Radu, I refer to (2): Opening "custom.css" in oXygen. /Also make sure you prefix the pseudo class value also in the oxy_action. /--> How do I do this? Negative values do have an effect in oXygen's Author mode and they are essential for me. Hm...??? I'll investigate to see if "margin-inline-start" is really required or can be replaced. I saw that it is used in one of oXygen's CSS files and wanted to reverse a formatting effect produced with this style. Do I use an oXygen framework for my custom.css? Probably... How can I verify this? Regards, Frank Hi Frank, There are two distinct aspects to this: 1) Installing your framework in Oxygen and editing a DITA topic in the Author mode using your custom framework's CSS. I tested and on my side Oxygen reports no error when opening and editing a DITA topic with your framework. So I cannot reproduce this problem you reported: This is annoying because the "Results" window keeps popping up whenever I save a dita file. 2) *Opening your "custom.css" in Oxygen and validating it*. Here indeed some errors are reported. 2.1) Unknown pseudo-element or pseudo-class “:no-tags” You can avoid this error by prefixing the custom pseudo class with "-oxy-", something like ":root:-oxy-no-tags". *Also make sure you prefix the pseudo class value also in the oxy_action.* 2.2) *“-2em” negative values are not allowed *: Such errors are reported by the W3C CSS validator, the CSS is considered invalid according to the CSS standard. We do not have settings to filter out errors reported by the CSS validator. 2.3) Property “*margin-inline-start*” doesn't exist : 0 Again this property does not see to be defined in the CSS3 standard and is reported as such by the W3C CSS validator. We do not have a way to inhibit this. Oxygen's CSS engine used to render DITA topics in the Author mode does not support this "margin-inline-start" property or use it in any way. But some browsers seem to support it. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor Am 18.01.2023 um 11:46 schrieb Kristen James Eberlein: *Frank, are you using an Oxygen framework for your custom CSS?* Best, Kris Kristen James Eberlein Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee Owner, Eberlein Consulting LLC k...@eberleinconsulting.com Skype: kriseberlein; voice: +1 (919) 622-1501 *From:* oXygen-user *On Behalf Of *Frank Dissinger *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:31 AM *To:* Oxygen User Mailing List *Subject:* [oXygen-user] CSS validation warnings Hi list, I keep getting the following CSS validation errors for my "custom.css" file in oXygen V25: * Unknown pseudo-element or pseudo-class “:no-tags” * Negative values are not allowed: -0.5em /(padding)/ * Property “margin-inline-start” doesn't exist : 0 This is annoying because the "Results" window keeps popping up whenever I save a dita file. How can I tell oXygen to ignore these elements/properties/values? I can't find the required settings under "Options > Preferences > CSS Validator". Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] CSS validation warnings
Hi list, I keep getting the following CSS validation errors for my "custom.css" file in oXygen V25: * Unknown pseudo-element or pseudo-class “:no-tags” * Negative values are not allowed: -0.5em /(padding)/ * Property “margin-inline-start” doesn't exist : 0 This is annoying because the "Results" window keeps popping up whenever I save a dita file. How can I tell oXygen to ignore these elements/properties/values? I can't find the required settings under "Options > Preferences > CSS Validator". Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen
Hi Radu, Thank you also for this reply (on the DITA Users List). Regards, Frank Am 07.12.2022 um 08:10 schrieb Radu Coravu via groups.io: Hi Frank, Here are some answers to your remarks, if you need more help about how Oxygen works you can contact us directly: * It seems that a DITA map loads all the referenced submaps and displays all of these maps in a single window panel (as if this was a single file). In FM I see only the references and open the submaps as separate files by double-clicking on them. In Oxygen a DITA Map can be opened both in the DITA Maps Manager view and in the main editing area where it can be edited in either the Author or the Text editing modes. I will assume you are referring to opening a DITA Map in the Author visual editing mode. In the Oxygen Preferences->"DITA / Maps" page you have a checkbox named "Expand references to other maps when opening a map in the Author mode". * I feel lost in these maps. There are lots of big fonts, frames, colored backgrounds, icons... Can I customize the appearance? For example, by defining CSS-like styles for the DITA elements displayed on the screen? Yes, sure. The visual editing is CSS based. We have a CSS inspector view which can be used to debug what CSS styles apply to render a certain element in a certain way: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/author-css-inspector-view.html and you can contribute your own CSS for customizing the editing aspects: https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/customizeDITACSS.html * The Outline view is a bit similar to FM's Structure View. But I am used to setting the cursor into the Structure View to precisely define the point where to insert an element. This does not work in oXygen. Different applications have different features. Oxygen has a tooltip window showing the context which appears when moving the caret in the content, it also has various tags display modes which may be useful to properly place the cursor. Maybe you can use those instead of the Outline. * I'd like to see text and images without any tags in one window panel and the DITA structure with elements and attributes in a separate panel. I know I can switch off tags and use the Outline view, but I am not sure if this really gives me full control over everything... The Oxygen Outline is mostly intended to show the structure of the content and allow you to select elements. * How does oXygen visualize conditionalized content (included/excluded via a ditaval file)? Here's a link to the Oxygen user guide: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-editor/topics/dita-profiling-conditional-text.html with some videos/webinars referenced at the end. * Can I define a fixed page size in oXygen? I'd like to set a page width (height is not important) to make sure that images fit on the page and that table columns are not too narrow (in PDF deliverables). Setting an image resolution is also important. By default Oxygen shows a US-letter outline around an edited DITA topic. But this does not impose maximum width constraints, in a way in this regard Oxygen behaves more like a web browser, not like a PDF renderer. Hope this helps. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 12/6/22 18:42, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi all, Are there any passionate long-term structured FrameMaker users who have changed to oXygen as a DITA editor? Has anybody tried to set up the oXygen authoring environment as close as possible to FrameMaker's WYSIWYG view? Or at least in a way that makes the switch as painless as possible for a FrameMaker user? I've been using FrameMaker V11+DITA-FMx as a DITA editor for many years -- until recently also as a PDF transformation engine, which I have now replaced with MiramoPDF. I have used oXygen for a few years only and mostly as a transformation engine. With FM I am stuck with an old DITA implementation and the DITA-FMx plug-in is not developed any further. This is why I would like to use oXygen as a DITA editor instead. But I find it very hard to make the switch: The way DITA maps, topics, tags, structures... are presented is so different and I haven't the time to learn oXygen properly and in full detail. It's such a powerful tool with tons of features. So I thought there may be someone who can help me getting started -- at least with setting up the user interface and authoring environment. A few examples of things I am struggling with right away when I look at how oXygen presents my DITA files: * It seems that a DITA map loads all the referenced submaps and displays all of these maps in a single window panel (as if this was a single file). In FM I see only the references and open the submaps as separate files by double-clicking o
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen
Hi Chris, Thank you again for your reply (on the DITA Users List). I haven't had the time to read it in full detail and try out some of the suggestions until now. * /Selecting just the opening tag and pressing Enter will allow you to change the element from one type to another./ How would you select just the opening tag? If I do that in Author mode, the opening and closing tag with everything in between gets selected. When I then press Enter, I can surround the tag with another. In Text mode, the tag gets deleted when I press Enter. * /We have a "Show Page Width" alternative CSS style that helps writers visualize page width, as a guide to table and figure sizing./ Would you mind sharing this style with me? Thank you. Best regards, Frank Am 07.12.2022 um 13:24 schrieb Chris Papademetrious: Hi Frank, If you are not using the DITA Perspective in Oxygen, I suggest enabling it: https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/25.0/ug-author/topics/dita-perspective.html It applies a collection of settings that are useful for DITA editing. Some more random thoughts: * We also find the tag-based map view in an editing window to be somewhat overwhelming. We primarily edit maps in the following views: o DITA Maps Manager - adding and restructuring content o Editor window, Text view - fine-timing map attributes or element structures * Use keyboard shortcuts in the DITA Maps Manager - cursor keys to move around and expand/collapse, and type the names of files to auto-move to that matching file. * When you select a topic editing window, if a map referencing that topic is open in the DITA Maps Manager, it will scroll to that topic's map entry. o This is useful when you have multiple topic editing tabs open and you want to quickly see the map context of each one while editing. * We bind a Ctrl-` (backtick) hotkey to toggling full tags on/off, which makes it effortless to switch them on and off during editing. This is a huge help!! o I can provide details on how to configure this. * Oxygen has a lot of clever shortcuts for element operations in the editor. For example, o Selecting just the opening tag and pressing Enter will allow you to change the element from one type to another. o Placing the cursor just after the opening tag and pressing Backspace will unwrap the tag but keep its content. o Using Tab/Shift-tab at the beginning of list items can change their list level, including the element structure work needed to make it happen. * In editing windows, there is an element ancestry shown at the top for the current cursor position. This can be useful, especially when tags are hidden and you want to select some containing element (like an entire element when the cursor is somewhere inside its content). * We use shared CSS that configures the Oxygen editor, PDF output, and WebHelp output to all share a common style. o As we also come from a FrameMaker background, our writers wanted Oxygen's editing window to be as close to the PDF as possible. o We have a "Show Page Width" alternative CSS style that helps writers visualize page width, as a guide to table and figure sizing. * Using Find in Files and XPath/XQuery Builder to quickly find content in your maps can be helpful. Oxygen's search capability is very fast. Feel free to ask for more details on any aspect of this! - Chris *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen -- Print-ready/Outline view issues
Hi Stefan, Thank you for your input and the userful links. I am climbing up the learnign curve... Regards, Frank Am 04.01.2023 um 06:33 schrieb Stefan Jung: Hi Frank, Maybe you should not try to make Oxygen so FrameMaker-ish. I'm in a similar transition phase and my "unstructured" FrameMaker writers get used to the Oxygen way if working very fast. I'd recommend using the keyboard more and the mouse less. You can navigate with your arrow keys, also between elements. You can press Enter, to insert an element. You do not need to move, for example, after a step element to insert a new one. This is not necessary. Oxygen is smart enough to determine where you probably want to insert the element and Oxygen will not allow you to create invalid XML structures in Author mode. Use ALT+Enter to edit attributes. You don't need to place your caret between elements in outline view, because it allows you to add elements after and element (here you still think in FrameMaker UI). Please read https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/24.1/ug-editor/topics/text-navigate-document-content.html and https://blog.oxygenxml.com/topics/general_tips_and_tricks.html and https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/24.1/ug-editor/topics/common-shortcut-keys.html BR Stefan Gesendet mit OX Mail Frank Dissinger <http://frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com>> hat am January 4, 2023 um 5:45 AM geschrieben: Hi all, This is my first posting to this list. I am in the process of switching from FrameMaker V11 + DITA-FMx to oXygen V25 as my DITA editing tool. I have been using oXyen for quite a while as a transformation engine, but not as an editor. So in this respect I am still at the bottom of the learning curve. I'd like to set up the Author mode in a way which comes close to what I was used in FrameMaker. I mainly worked in WYSIWYG view and with the Structure View, Elements and Attributes windows. I have spent some effort on making oXygen's "Print-ready" view for the Editor window (in Author mode) look as WYSIWYG-ish as possible, with custom CSS styles that give me visual clues to the underlying XML structure. I then thought that I could use oXygen's Outline view in a similar way as FM's Structure View, but I feel quite lost in this window. * It does not allow me to position the cursor between the elements * It shows only a single attribute, not all attributes that are set * It shows only the attribute value, not the name * ... I therefore find it hard to see the XML structure in the Outline view and to place the cursor precisely when I want to insert new elements. So I thought maybe I could perhaps quickly toggle the "Print-ready" style on and off to see the tags and better find the correct cursor position. Can I create a keyboard shortcut for doing this? Thank you. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen -- Print-ready/Outline view issues
Hi Kris,
Thank you for your reply.
I fully agree with the requirements you describe.
In FrameMaker I was used to work in WYSIWYG view with no tags displayed.
The Structure View and the formatting styles in the Editor window gave
me enough information about the DITA tags and structure. I used the
Elements window to insert or wrap elements and edited Attributes using
the Structure View or a DITA-FMx dialog.
When I now view my DITA topics in oXygen I would like to see them in a
similar way just because otherwise I wouldn't be sure if it is really
the same document. Sounds strange perhaps, but it is indeed extremely
confusing to me to see something that seems to be different. Perhaps
after some time, when I am conversant with oXygen, I may have more
confidence in other views...
So in oXygen I prefer the "No tags" view. With this there are still lots
of icons (for opening link targets, expand/collapse sections...) and
additional text ("Short description", "Result", ...) which I would
prefer to hide. Most of this can be done using the "Print-ready" style
and lots of CSS code which I take from the CSS Inspector window and adapt.
However, this means that I would have to rely on the Outline view, the
Attributes window and the breadcrumbs to see the structure. These tools
do not give me the same information, convenience and capabilities that I
am used in FrameMaker. I therefore thought it could be a workaround to
quickly toggle my preferred view ("Print ready") and "Full tags" (or
"Full tags with attributs") using a keyboard shortcut. However, there
are no shortcuts for styles.
But I discovered that you can define keyboard shortcuts for "No tags",
"Full tags", etc. And Radu gave me CSS code that creates a button in
every topic that toggles between "No tags" and the last tags view chosen
for the topic. I was able to get rid of some texts like "Short
description" (which I indicate using a color) and the like using some
more CSS code. The extra icons are still there, but they do not take up
much room so I can live with them (and they are usful).
Best regards,
Frank
Am 04.01.2023 um 06:42 schrieb Kristen James Eberlein:
Hi, Frank.
I have not used FrameMaker for almost two decades, so I cannot be of
much help in your quest to “set up the Author mode in a way which
comes close to what I was used in FrameMaker”. Whether or not you can
do that, I truly don’t know.
It might be the case that it would be helpful for you to state your
needs as functional requirements – While Oxygen might not offer the
same authoring nuances/interface as FrameMaker, if it can be done in
XML, Oxygen offers a way to do it!
For example, here are the requirements that I inferred from your e-mail:
* As an author, I want to have a WYSIWYG interface that looks
similar to how content is rendered for my company. (Easy to do
with CSS and an Oxygen framework.)
* As an author, I want to easily navigate in a lengthy XML document.
(This is what the Outline view is optimized for, to enable you to
locate a specific element rapidly.)
* As an author, I want to have a WYSIWYG view where I can easily
view the underlying structure, both elements and attributes. (For
me, here is where I use the authoring view with full tags and
attributes turned on.)
Some of this, of course, might depend on what you mean by WYSWYG …
Does WYSIWYG encompass the Oxygen Author view with “full tags and
attributes”? Or are you primarily interested in the “no tags” view? If
the latter, you can view the structure by looking at the breadcrumbs
that are displayed at the top of the window, under the topic title,
and the attributes by keeping the “Attributes” view open.
I think all Oxygen users have slightly different preferences, and they
certainly can also be affected by whether one has an external monitor
or is simply working within the confines of a small laptop or tablet
screen.
Change is hard. Inevitably, when you switch tools, I think you run
into a need to shift at least a little of your habits and preferences.
Best,
Kris
Kristen James Eberlein
Chair, OASIS DITA Technical Committee
Owner, Eberlein Consulting LLC
k...@eberleinconsulting.com
Skype: kriseberlein; voice: +1 (919) 622-1501
*From:* oXygen-user *On Behalf Of
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*Subject:* [oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen --
Print-ready/Outline view issues
Hi all,
This is my first posting to this list.
I am in the process of switching from FrameMaker V11 + DITA-FMx to
oXygen V25 as my DITA editing tool. I have been using oXyen for quite
a while as a transformation engine, but not as an editor. So in this
respect I am still at the bot
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen / Outline View / Text duplicates
Hi Jang, Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing: Current behavior: What I want is this: I see no point in the current behavior. Why are empty elements marked as "filled" elements in oXygen? *@SyncroSoft* Feature request : Can the current behavior of the Outline view be changed to show empty elements as empty? If the current behavior is required (for whichever reason...), I understand that I'd need to implement DITA contstraints. Can you be more specific about that? How would I do this with oXygen? Regards, Frank Am 09.01.2023 um 11:27 schrieb 4everJang: Hello Frank, About the last point in your missing features list: the DITA specs allow plain text as well as block elements like inside an . If you create constraints that disallow plain text (and inline elements) in the you should get rid of the extra Text indicators in oXygen’s author view. And I do suggest everyone to create constraints before starting to work with DITA, as the definitions in the so-called standard DITA packages allows almost everything and is not meant to be a useful subset of elements for anyone’s specific content domain. The first step in any useful DITA implementation is defining constraints and possibly specialisations. I often get the reply from newbie DITA users that they want to stick with standard DITA. Fact is that constraints, and even specialisations, do not take you away from the standard. DITA was intended to be customised, i.e. adapted to your particular content domain, so that it will become as useful as possible - without pushing you out of the standard. Any DITA tool should support constraints and specialisations (as long as you create them in the defined manner), otherwise they cannot claim to be DITA compliant at all. Good luck with the transition from FM to oXygen. *4everJang* *Amsterdam, Netherlands* On 9 Jan 2023, 10:37 +0100, Frank Dissinger , wrote: Hi Alan, Thank you for your reply. I fully agree with what you wrote about FM's Structure View. An excellent tool. It would be great if oXygen could enhance its Outline View and make it work in a similar way. I am especially missing the following features: * Allow users to place the cursor between tags, or at the beginning/end of the element contents, and indicate the position * Display attributes: Toggle between all/all with a value/none (no need to waste room on the screen for a separate Attributes window) * Expand/collapse complete tree of elements or attributes in one go (Shift-click) * Element content should not be repeated for empty wrapping elements, this is confusing (show it only once) For exmaple, for Text..., the "Text" is shown both for and . It should only be shown for . Can I add this as feature request? I have now switched to the oXygen Users Mailing List and will post any further oXygen-related issues there. Regards, Frank Am 04.01.2023 um 22:05 schrieb Alan Houser: Chiming in a bit late here. Longtime structured FrameMaker and oXygen user... *Frank mentions the FrameMaker structure view. IMO, this is the best and most distinctive part of the FrameMaker structured authoring interface. Easy access to any part of the document. Expand/collapse at any level of the document hierarchy; locally or globally (e.g. expand/collapse "this" section; expand/collapse all sections). Full navigation capabilities. Visual feedback (and shortcut control) over cursor location -- beginning, middle, or end of an element. Configurable and interactive attribute display.* * * *While most XML editors provide some sort of outline view, I've never seen one as full-featured and useful as the FrameMaker structure view.* I occasionally use the oXygen Outline View for quick navigation in larger XML documents. And the "folding" feature in the edit window to expand/collapse content. But these don't fully replace what one can do with the FrameMaker structure view. I think you will find that oXygen provides more and different features than Structured FrameMaker, many of which you will come to appreciate. I suggest (as you are doing) learning how to be most productive with the oXygen features and workflow. And be prepared to miss the FrameMaker structure view. -Alan -- Alan Houser Group Wellesley, Inc. Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing arh on Twitter 412-450-0532 On Dec 8, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Frank Dissinger wrote: Thank you, Chris Radu Stefan Thomas Yves for your replies, this valuable information and for offering me your help. I have already made some initial progress. I have successfully created a custom framework with my own CSS file and are getting my topic editor window panel look more and more the way I like
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen -- @type not added automatically
Hi Radu, Thank you for this clarification. Good to know that the Type and Format attributes are neither required nor good practice. This makes life easier. /I tested and indeed, if in the DITA Maps Manager I insert a reference to an existing topic file, the attributes are automatically added, but if I use for example the contextual action "Append child->New" to create a topic and insert a reference to it, then indeed the attributes are not set on the topicref. Is this close to how you are doing things on your side?/ I right-clicked in the Editor window and selected /"/Insert > Insert New DITA Resource", then I selected a custom framework template. / / Regards, Frank/ / Am 04.01.2023 um 06:57 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, Please see some remarks below: I understand that the "type" and "format" attributes are required or at least a good practice for "topicref" elements. They are not required and they are not a best practice either. From what I've experienced along these years, most end users who want these attributes to be added automatically are usually the ones migrating from Framemaker or using both Oxygen and Framemaker on the same set of DITA files. My general best practice for these attributes would be: 1) For the "type" attribute, never set it on any link or topicref as the publishing engine will infer it from the target. 2) For the "format" attribute, Oxygen by default sets it on references to DITA Maps and non-DITA topics, but when referencing DITA topics, the @format attribute is not set automatically as it's default value when not set is "dita". When I insert a new dita resource into a ditamap (i.e. a new topic or map which I create and insert in one go), oXygen should add these attributes automatically. I have set the options under "Options > Preferences > DITA > Maps" accordingly. However, only "format" attributes are set, "type" attributes are not set although I have checked both options. Checking those "Format" and "Type" checkboxes in the "Options > Preferences > DITA > Maps" preferences page should work... I tested and indeed, if in the DITA Maps Manager I insert a reference to an existing topic file, the attributes are automatically added, but if I use for example the contextual action "Append child->New" to create a topic and insert a reference to it, then indeed the attributes are not set on the topicref. Is this close to how you are doing things on your side? I added an internal issue to look into fixing this problem on our side, adding the issue ID below for future reference: EXM-52131 DITA Maps Manager creating new topic does not automatically add type and format attributes to topicref Hope this helps. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 1/3/23 21:08, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi list, I understand that the "type" and "format" attributes are required or at least a good practice for "topicref" elements. When I insert a new dita resource into a ditamap (i.e. a new topic or map which I create and insert in one go), oXygen should add these attributes automatically. I have set the options under "Options > Preferences > DITA > Maps" accordingly. However, only "format" attributes are set, "type" attributes are not set although I have checked both options. Is this a bug or am I missing something? I use oXygen V25. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen -- Print-ready/Outline view issues
Thank you, Radu, for the CSS code. I have successfully implemented this button and it is a good workaround until a keyboard shortcut is available. I have made it to always stick at the top right of the Editor window using the CSS property "position: fixed". Unfortunately, this CSS code does not work with the "Print ready" style, only when it is disabled. As a result, I had to adjust a few more CSS styles to reimplement the visual representation that I wanted. Regards, Frank Am 04.01.2023 um 07:54 schrieb Oxygen XML Editor Support (Radu Coravu): Hi Frank, About this specific request: So I thought maybe I could perhaps quickly toggle the "Print-ready" style on and off to see the tags and better find the correct cursor position. Can I create a keyboard shortcut for doing this? We do not yet have a means to set a certain keyboard shortcut for applying a CSS layer, we have an internal issue for this, I added your contact details to it and I'm pasting the issue ID below for future reference: EXM-22482 Assign hot keys for the alternate styles (CSS API) There are other ways in which someone could for example create a custom Author action which sets a certain pseudo class on an element and then the CSS selectors can use that pseudo class to enable or disable certain properties. For example with the "custom.css" file I'm attaching I added a button directly in the Author visual editor and when the button is clicked, a certain CSS pseudo class is set on the root element and the tags are shown or hidden based on it. Regards, Radu Radu Coravu Oxygen XML Editor On 1/3/23 19:36, Frank Dissinger wrote: Hi all, This is my first posting to this list. I am in the process of switching from FrameMaker V11 + DITA-FMx to oXygen V25 as my DITA editing tool. I have been using oXyen for quite a while as a transformation engine, but not as an editor. So in this respect I am still at the bottom of the learning curve. I'd like to set up the Author mode in a way which comes close to what I was used in FrameMaker. I mainly worked in WYSIWYG view and with the Structure View, Elements and Attributes windows. I have spent some effort on making oXygen's "Print-ready" view for the Editor window (in Author mode) look as WYSIWYG-ish as possible, with custom CSS styles that give me visual clues to the underlying XML structure. I then thought that I could use oXygen's Outline view in a similar way as FM's Structure View, but I feel quite lost in this window. * It does not allow me to position the cursor between the elements * It shows only a single attribute, not all attributes that are set * It shows only the attribute value, not the name * ... I therefore find it hard to see the XML structure in the Outline view and to place the cursor precisely when I want to insert new elements. So I thought maybe I could perhaps quickly toggle the "Print-ready" style on and off to see the tags and better find the correct cursor position. Can I create a keyboard shortcut for doing this? Thank you. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur> ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen / FM Structure View vs. oXy Outline View / Feature request
Hi Alan, Thank you for your reply. I fully agree with what you wrote about FM's Structure View. An excellent tool. It would be great if oXygen could enhance its Outline View and make it work in a similar way. I am especially missing the following features: * Allow users to place the cursor between tags, or at the beginning/end of the element contents, and indicate the position * Display attributes: Toggle between all/all with a value/none (no need to waste room on the screen for a separate Attributes window) * Expand/collapse complete tree of elements or attributes in one go (Shift-click) * Element content should not be repeated for empty wrapping elements, this is confusing (show it only once) For exmaple, for Text..., the "Text" is shown both for and . It should only be shown for . Can I add this as feature request? I have now switched to the oXygen Users Mailing List and will post any further oXygen-related issues there. Regards, Frank Am 04.01.2023 um 22:05 schrieb Alan Houser: Chiming in a bit late here. Longtime structured FrameMaker and oXygen user... *Frank mentions the FrameMaker structure view. IMO, this is the best and most distinctive part of the FrameMaker structured authoring interface. Easy access to any part of the document. Expand/collapse at any level of the document hierarchy; locally or globally (e.g. expand/collapse "this" section; expand/collapse all sections). Full navigation capabilities. Visual feedback (and shortcut control) over cursor location -- beginning, middle, or end of an element. Configurable and interactive attribute display.* * * *While most XML editors provide some sort of outline view, I've never seen one as full-featured and useful as the FrameMaker structure view.* I occasionally use the oXygen Outline View for quick navigation in larger XML documents. And the "folding" feature in the edit window to expand/collapse content. But these don't fully replace what one can do with the FrameMaker structure view. I think you will find that oXygen provides more and different features than Structured FrameMaker, many of which you will come to appreciate. I suggest (as you are doing) learning how to be most productive with the oXygen features and workflow. And be prepared to miss the FrameMaker structure view. -Alan -- Alan Houser Group Wellesley, Inc. Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing arh on Twitter 412-450-0532 On Dec 8, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Frank Dissinger wrote: Thank you, Chris Radu Stefan Thomas Yves for your replies, this valuable information and for offering me your help. I have already made some initial progress. I have successfully created a custom framework with my own CSS file and are getting my topic editor window panel look more and more the way I like (using the 'print-ready' display style). I'll try to dig a bit deeper into this matter and will collect the questions and issues as I get on with this. I'll then come back to you. Best regards, Frank Am 06.12.2022 um 17:42 schrieb Frank Dissinger: Hi all, Are there any passionate long-term structured FrameMaker users who have changed to oXygen as a DITA editor? Has anybody tried to set up the oXygen authoring environment as close as possible to FrameMaker's WYSIWYG view? Or at least in a way that makes the switch as painless as possible for a FrameMaker user? I've been using FrameMaker V11+DITA-FMx as a DITA editor for many years -- until recently also as a PDF transformation engine, which I have now replaced with MiramoPDF. I have used oXygen for a few years only and mostly as a transformation engine. With FM I am stuck with an old DITA implementation and the DITA-FMx plug-in is not developed any further. This is why I would like to use oXygen as a DITA editor instead. But I find it very hard to make the switch: The way DITA maps, topics, tags, structures... are presented is so different and I haven't the time to learn oXygen properly and in full detail. It's such a powerful tool with tons of features. So I thought there may be someone who can help me getting started -- at least with setting up the user interface and authoring environment. A few examples of things I am struggling with right away when I look at how oXygen presents my DITA files: * It seems that a DITA map loads all the referenced submaps and displays all of these maps in a single window panel (as if this was a single file). In FM I see only the references and open the submaps as separate files by double-clicking on them. * I feel lost in these maps. There are lots of big fonts, frames, colored backgrounds, icons... Can I customize the appearance? For example, by defining CSS-like styles for the DITA elemen
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen -- @type not added automatically
Hi list, I understand that the "type" and "format" attributes are required or at least a good practice for "topicref" elements. When I insert a new dita resource into a ditamap (i.e. a new topic or map which I create and insert in one go), oXygen should add these attributes automatically. I have set the options under "Options > Preferences > DITA > Maps" accordingly. However, only "format" attributes are set, "type" attributes are not set although I have checked both options. Is this a bug or am I missing something? I use oXygen V25. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen ___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
[oXygen-user] Going from FrameMaker to oXygen -- Print-ready/Outline view issues
Hi all, This is my first posting to this list. I am in the process of switching from FrameMaker V11 + DITA-FMx to oXygen V25 as my DITA editing tool. I have been using oXyen for quite a while as a transformation engine, but not as an editor. So in this respect I am still at the bottom of the learning curve. I'd like to set up the Author mode in a way which comes close to what I was used in FrameMaker. I mainly worked in WYSIWYG view and with the Structure View, Elements and Attributes windows. I have spent some effort on making oXygen's "Print-ready" view for the Editor window (in Author mode) look as WYSIWYG-ish as possible, with custom CSS styles that give me visual clues to the underlying XML structure. I then thought that I could use oXygen's Outline view in a similar way as FM's Structure View, but I feel quite lost in this window. * It does not allow me to position the cursor between the elements * It shows only a single attribute, not all attributes that are set * It shows only the attribute value, not the name * ... I therefore find it hard to see the XML structure in the Outline view and to place the cursor precisely when I want to insert new elements. So I thought maybe I could perhaps quickly toggle the "Print-ready" style on and off to see the tags and better find the correct cursor position. Can I create a keyboard shortcut for doing this? Thank you. Regards, Frank -- *Frank Dissinger* Documentation Manager *CGS Publishing Technologies International GmbH* *Email *frank.dissin...@cgs-oris.com | *Web* www.cgs-oris.com <http://www.cgs-oris.com/> *Address* Kettelerstr. 24 | D-63512 Hainburg | Germany *Phone* +49 6182 9626-27 | *Fax* +49 6182 9626-99 *Commercial register* Offenbach, HRB no. 21495 *Managing directors* Bernd Rückert, Christoph Thommessen https://www.cgs-oris.com/Signatur.png <https://www.cgs-oris.com/signatur>___ oXygen-user mailing list oXygen-user@oxygenxml.com https://www.oxygenxml.com/mailman/listinfo/oxygen-user
