[OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
contacted them.

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

Whoops wrong thread, I was trying to reply to Bec directly

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Hitman Hoss  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ridland  wrote:
>>
>> Is it an Australian website?
>>
>
> Yeap they are based in Melbourne. They claim on their site they gather
> the data from publicly available sources but in this case I can
> guarantee that is impossible with my address and phone details.
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
>>> private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
>>> address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
>>> contacted them.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Bec
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Michael Ridland | ThinkSmart Digital
>> Managing Director
>> P. 0404 865 350
>> E. mich...@thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> W. www.thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> T. www.twitter.com/rid00z
>> L. au.linkedin.com/in/michaelridland
>>
>>
>>

Re: [OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

I mean Hoss

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Bec Carter  wrote:
> Whoops wrong thread, I was trying to reply to Bec directly
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Hitman Hoss  wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ridland  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it an Australian website?
>>>
>>
>> Yeap they are based in Melbourne. They claim on their site they gather
>> the data from publicly available sources but in this case I can
>> guarantee that is impossible with my address and phone details.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
>>>> private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
>>>> address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
>>>> contacted them.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bec
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Michael Ridland | ThinkSmart Digital
>>> Managing Director
>>> P. 0404 865 350
>>> E. mich...@thinksmartdigital.com.au
>>> W. www.thinksmartdigital.com.au
>>> T. www.twitter.com/rid00z
>>> L. au.linkedin.com/in/michaelridland
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
> try contacting them and updating your details to something completely wrong
> hahaha
>
lol worth a try

> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>> Unless it's incorrect.  I mean www.whitepages.com.au has most people on
>> it.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ridland 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Is it an Australian website?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bec Carter 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
>> >> private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
>> >> address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
>> >> contacted them.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Bec
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Michael Ridland | ThinkSmart Digital
>> > Managing Director
>> > P. 0404 865 350
>> > E. mich...@thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> > W. www.thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> > T. www.twitter.com/rid00z
>> > L. au.linkedin.com/in/michaelridland
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Meski
>>
>>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>
>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>
>

Re: [OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
> Seriously though you need to ask where they get the data from and ensure you
> are right before going any further
>
I'll try calling this time

>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>> > try contacting them and updating your details to something completely
>> > wrong
>> > hahaha
>> >
>> lol worth a try
>>
>> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM, mike smith  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Unless it's incorrect.  I mean www.whitepages.com.au has most people on
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ridland 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Is it an Australian website?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bec Carter 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
>> >> >> private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
>> >> >> address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
>> >> >> contacted them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >> Bec
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Michael Ridland | ThinkSmart Digital
>> >> > Managing Director
>> >> > P. 0404 865 350
>> >> > E. mich...@thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> >> > W. www.thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> >> > T. www.twitter.com/rid00z
>> >> > L. au.linkedin.com/in/michaelridland
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Meski
>> >>
>> >>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>> >>
>> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: [OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
> By any chance is it a real estate site?

No not real estate :-)

>
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>> > Seriously though you need to ask where they get the data from and ensure
>> > you
>> > are right before going any further
>> >
>> I'll try calling this time
>>
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Bec Carter 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Tom Rutter 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > try contacting them and updating your details to something completely
>> >> > wrong
>> >> > hahaha
>> >> >
>> >> lol worth a try
>> >>
>> >> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:27 AM, mike smith 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Unless it's incorrect.  I mean www.whitepages.com.au has most people
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Michael Ridland 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Is it an Australian website?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bec Carter
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
>> >> >> >> private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
>> >> >> >> address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
>> >> >> >> contacted them.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >> >> Bec
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Michael Ridland | ThinkSmart Digital
>> >> >> > Managing Director
>> >> >> > P. 0404 865 350
>> >> >> > E. mich...@thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> >> >> > W. www.thinksmartdigital.com.au
>> >> >> > T. www.twitter.com/rid00z
>> >> >> > L. au.linkedin.com/in/michaelridland
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Meski
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex.
>> >> >> Sure,
>> >> >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: [OT] Removing private details on Internet

[Bec Carter]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
> Check out
> http://www.squidoo.com/personalInformation and http://www.reputation.com/company
>

Reputation.com is a US based company but I will shoot them an email

> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if there is a body I could contact to get some
>> private details removed from the web? I stumbled across my name,
>> address and phone number on a site but received no reply when I
>> contacted them.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bec
>
>

Re: [OT] Windows phone recommendation

[Bec Carter]

I recommend an Android phone instead :-)

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
> any recommendations for a windows phone? Been on an iphone for a few yrs and
> looking for a change

Re: [OT] It's not Friday, but I've had a tough last 3 weeks ...

[Bec Carter]

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Les Hughes  wrote:
> Ian Thomas wrote:
>>
>>
>> I’ve had several calls like this in the last couple of years (and my wife
>> had one just yesterday), but this overseas call from an (Indian-accepted)
>> “Computer Maintenance Department” was spun out to 7 minutes by one of the
>> SMBIT guys who received it today. It lightened my mood considerably
>>
>> Put all your computers in your …
>> 
>>
>>
>> Received a call today from "Computer Maintenance Department" trying to
>> tell me my computer was faulty and I needed to give them access to "fix it"
>> it for me. Decided to have a bit of fun. The ending was unexpected and
>> hilarious.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>>
>
> LOL.
>
> Some people hang up on them when they make the call, I'd recommend everyone
> playing a game of "how long can I keep you on the phone." If everyone who
> wised on to them tied up their time, it would work somewhat like a
> scammer-DDOS.
>

I usually just tell them to "hang on a minute" and don't go back to
the phone for about 10 mins by which time they've hung up

> Something else worth doing: if you are being phished via email, check that
> the URL has no identifying details (so they know it came from your email
> address) and fill out the form with fake info. If everyone filled out BS in
> those forms, it would once again eat up the time of these people, and
> perhaps help the banks see suspect logins when there are several failures on
> non-existent accounts from a certain IP address/range.
>
> http://www.419eater.com/ is a website where the scammer gets scammed.
> Somewhat amusing if you have the time to take a look.
> --
> Les Hughes
> l...@datarev.com.au

Re: sql connection taking ages when using IP Address vs Computer Name

[Bec Carter]

Not related to your issue but it's recommended you use ConnectionStrings
instead of AppSettings to hold your connstring if using .NET 2 and above
(from memory 2.0 introduced it)

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Wallace Turner wrote:

>  Hi All (especially Greg Low tho),
>
> I've been debugging an issue whereby conn.Open( ) was/is taking 5 seconds
> to connect to a machine on the LAN (same VM host actually)
>
>
>
> I've 'fixed' this by changing the connection string.  Was:
> *database=FooDb;server=10.210.10.130;trusted_connection=true;* //takes 5
> seconds to conn.Open( )
>
> and changed to:
>
> *database=FooDb;server=sql-svr;trusted_connection=true;* //takes 30ms
> seconds to conn.Open( )
>
>
> This behavior is consistent on subsequent runs (it is just a simple
> console app). You don't even need to query anything which proves its
> nothing to do with a specific query.
>
> *Why does this cause an issue? *Well if the application is idle for 5
> minutes then the next person to 'do something' has to wait 5 secs for the
> sql conn to open.
> Someone care to explain?
>
<>

Re: [OT] It's not Friday, but I've had a tough last 3 weeks ...

[Bec Carter]

Haha I have one on the line now, had him for over 20 minutes. I will
stretch this out for hours..

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:42 PM, mike smith  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
>> As a follow-up –since it is nearly Friday now – I thought this was a very
>> analytical and almost cruel response to our hard-working friends in the
>> (mainly) off-shore call centres. After all, they’re only trying to earn a
>> quid (or rupee), and some of them may be better educated than us and earning
>> very little for their education and the sacrifice to get it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know their drill, and have the process down pat with these guys.
>>
>> I did this several months ago, and managed to keep them on the phone for
>> about 50 minutes playing as a dumb end user.
>>
>> I even allowed them remote access to a sandboxed VM, and recorded the screen
>> session. They get you to go to run and type “inf virus”. It opens the
>> C:\Windows\inf and they tell you that each of the files listed is a virus J
>> Next, they took remote control of the VM using Citrix GoToAssist, and opened
>> the Windows System event log, and said that everything with a red x is a
>> virus. I threw them because I cleared the System event log prior and it was
>> only informational messages displayed! So the guy stumbled, and said because
>> there was more than 20 informational events, that it was a virus.
>
> With the comments recently about OS versions, I'd be tempted to throw
> them a version of Win3.1, or Metro...
>
>>
>> Classic… I had to help them along with the scam because they were so bad at
>> it.
>>
>> Following on, the rest of the scam is to download a their software from
>> amazon, for around $300 or so to fix the problem, at which point I kept them
>> going on in circles.
>>
>> They caught on at this stage, and after speaking to about 4 different people
>> they realised they weren’t getting anywhere with this “dumb arse” end user J
>>
>> I traced their sources, IP addresses logged, and the screen recorded.
>>
>> Submitted to AFP with the evidence – got a phone call from the AFP a week or
>> so later, saying they traced it back to a service run out of Sydney, but was
>> VoIP and sent offshore from there, so they couldn’t trace it any further.
>>
>
> Damn!
>
>> I think I have done my civic duty J
>>
>> Usually, I just resort to telling them (the helpful computer maintenance
>> guys) to go away, and then I end the phone call.
>>
>> I have more problem with (local) charities that have somehow got my number
>> and name, and won’t be told to desist. And they are exempt from the
>> Australian “Do Not Call” Register.
>
> I want a 1900 number.  THat'd make it worth my while keeping them on the line.
>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] It's not Friday, but I've had a tough last 3 weeks ...

[Bec Carter]

This one is a freebie :p

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>Haha I have one on the line now, had him for over 20 minutes. I will
> stretch this out for hours..
>
> I hope you can invoice him for the consulting time! ;-) Greg
>

Re: Skywards (Emirates) sent me my password back in clear text

[Bec Carter]

Just realised the web hoster I use does the same (ahem studiocoast)..they
even display it in cleartext on the admin control panel page upon login.
Never thought they'd do that so didn't notice just til now

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
wrote:

> This is one of those "OMG, there are still websites keeping passwords in
> clear text" moments but Skywards happily sent me back my password in clear
> text.
>
> Anyone knows anyone in Skywards that I can get their a*** kicked for this?
>
> http://tinypic.com/r/10ds11y/6
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> Regards,
> Corneliu.
>
>
<>

[OT] Email and web hosting

[Bec Carter]

Hi everyone

A friend has asked me to set up their email and basic website (very small
site) for their small business. They already have the domain name
registered. Any recommendations for email and web hosting?
I used Google Apps before but they don't offer the free option any longer.
My friend is happy to pay the $50/user/yr for Google Apps as they are
familiar with Gmail but I wanted to see if anyone here has found a better
deal that also offers web hosting.

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?

[Bec Carter]

.net taken over by html and js? Haha looks like the pendulum is swinging
back again

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Katherine Moss
wrote:

>  I disagree, still.  WPF was expanded for instance, from versions 4.0 to
> 4.5 of the .net framework significantly from what I can tell from MSDN.
> And besides, since Windows 8 modern apps are so limited in their feature
> set compared to what we know currently today, I sort of consider Microsoft
> a little crazy for thinking that everyone’s going to accept less than what
> they have now.  And that’s what scares me about the “Gemini” update for
> Office coming in the future since in order to metro-ize Office completely,
> according to sources of Mary Joe Fowley on All About Microsoft over at
> ZDNet, she says that what people are telling her is that the update will be
> a subset of the current feature set.  And that’s what gets me; what about
> enthusiasts who need more than just a Fisher Price version?  What if we
> want all of the cool features?  What is Microsoft telling us to do, never
> move on because they are interested in depleting stuff?  
>
> And then in terms of .net being taken over by HTML and JavaScript?  How
> much more 1990’s can you get?  Come on, jees.  I’ll never accept a version
> of Windows or it’s successors without .net installed and living in some
> form.  
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 11:27 PM
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?
>
> ** **
>
> Its legacy simply because no investment will be put into it. Windows XP is
> legacy even though I still see people inside a Fortune 500 company right
> now using at as a desktop OS. 
>
> ** **
>
> Silverlight/WPF concepts and IP were consolidated and rehydrated into the
> Windows 8 XAML "runtime" so in a way Legacy would also imply that the vNext
> is the "new" and the older version are the old (just like Silverlight 2 is
> legacy vs Silverlight 4). The problem is Microsoft didn't understand what
> the notion of a "messaging framework" is in terms of Marketing and so they
> left that part out creating this whole conversation right now around Legacy
> true/false.
>
> Its also legacy because of the uncertainty in a lot of
> enterprise/companies around the "AS-IS" futures they've in turn suspended
> investment or looking to shift to a HTML5 deployment model or are open to
> new ideas around next bets. That's not to say a new project isnt created
> every 5secs in WPF/SL today... it's just not advertised and creates this
> whole "is it alive or isnt it" question.
>
>
> 
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com
>
> ** **
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Katherine Moss 
> wrote:
>
> I don’t know why people keep calling stuff like WPF and Win32/64
> applications “old and legacy”.  I still see people using WPF all the time,
> so obviously it’s still got some spirit in it.  
>
>  
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Arjang Assadi
> *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 2:14 AM
>
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Surface RT or Surface Pro?
>
>  
>
> RT totally rocks, since I got it haven't put it down, it is just pure
> awesome.
>
> It is light, app switching and screen splitting are so easy.
>
>  
>
> Since I got one I cant remember a day I didn't have it in my hand, most of
> times without the cover.
>
>  
>
> I would like a Pro for alternative set of reasons, but RT will still be
> lighter.
>
>  
>
> Regards
>
>  
>
> Arjang
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On 2 April 2013 10:49, James Chapman-Smith 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
>  
>
> I'm thinking about getting myself either a Surface RT or a Surface Pro (or
> maybe some other alternative). Every time I think about it I convince
> myself that one is better than the other but then the next time I flip.***
> *
>
>  
>
> What are everyone's thoughts?
>
>  
>
> Should I get a Surface RT or a Surface Pro? Should I get a surface at all?
> How much memory should I get?
>
>  
>
> I thank you for your well thought out ideas in advance.
>
>  
>
> Cheers.
>
>  
>
> James.
>
>  
>
> ** **
>

Re: [OT] Email and web hosting

[Bec Carter]

So you use a NetRegistry webmail interface? I used StudioCoast for a while
and it was shocking!

I remember reading somewhere there was a Microsoft alternative to Google
Apps for free. Anybody know/remember this?

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Mark Hurd  wrote:

> I have no idea how price competitive they are at the moment, but we've
> been happy NetRegistry www.netregistry.com.au customers for years, and
> their offerings expanded well as we grew.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)
>
> On 7 April 2013 11:49, Bec Carter  wrote:
> > Hi everyone
> >
> > A friend has asked me to set up their email and basic website (very small
> > site) for their small business. They already have the domain name
> > registered. Any recommendations for email and web hosting?
> > I used Google Apps before but they don't offer the free option any
> longer.
> > My friend is happy to pay the $50/user/yr for Google Apps as they are
> > familiar with Gmail but I wanted to see if anyone here has found a better
> > deal that also offers web hosting.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Bec
>

Re: [OT] Looking for a contractor to work on an existing ASP.NET/WCF SaaS application

[Bec Carter]

Hi Anton, where is the position located?

Bec

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Anton Felich  wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> ** **
>
> We are a man down on our development team and looking for a full time
> contractor to help out. Description attached, please email me directly, the
> rest of the news group doesn’t want to read our correspondence J
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers,
>
> ** **
>
> Anton
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

Re: [OT] Looking for a contractor to work on an existing ASP.NET/WCF SaaS application

[Bec Carter]

oops, sorry list

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Bec Carter  wrote:

> Hi Anton, where is the position located?
>
> Bec
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Anton Felich wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> We are a man down on our development team and looking for a full time
>> contractor to help out. Description attached, please email me directly, the
>> rest of the news group doesn’t want to read our correspondence J
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Anton
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
>

[OT] Laptop to replace macbook

[Bec Carter]

Hi everyone

I recently had my 13" 2012 macbook pro destroyed. 8GB RAM and 128GB solid
state. Spent around $1700 when I bought it. Loved using it as was light,
quick and just felt nice in my hands.
Now I have to replace it but I also need a new Windows laptop (13" also)
for some coding so thought I could get something that would replace both.

Can anyone recommend something they've used or are using currently? Same
size, weight if possible, ram and solid state is a must. Budget under 2k.

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] Laptop to replace macbook

[Bec Carter]

Hi Les, where are you looking that this one is cheap? UX301LA version
with i7 and 8gb ram is $3k it seems or did you mean a different one?


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Les Hughes  wrote:

>  On 15/05/14 16:08, Nathan Chere wrote:
>
>  Look into the 13.3” Asus Zenbook. I don’t generally like devices that
> try to hard to clone others but they do a far better Macbook Air than Apple
> does.
>
>
>  + 1 for Zenbook.
>
> Cheap, nice form factor, lightweight, overall very decent.
>
> --
> Les Hughes
> l...@datarev.com.au
>

Re: [OT] Laptop to replace macbook

[Bec Carter]

No insurance but I was reimbursed by the destroyer.

Bec


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:09 AM, mike smith  wrote:

> How did it get destroyed, and did you have any insurance covering it?
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Bec Carter wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I recently had my 13" 2012 macbook pro destroyed. 8GB RAM and 128GB solid
>> state. Spent around $1700 when I bought it. Loved using it as was light,
>> quick and just felt nice in my hands.
>> Now I have to replace it but I also need a new Windows laptop (13" also)
>> for some coding so thought I could get something that would replace both.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend something they've used or are using currently? Same
>> size, weight if possible, ram and solid state is a must. Budget under 2k.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bec
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Meski
>
>http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>

Re: [OT] Laptop to replace macbook

[Bec Carter]

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Price wrote:

> That a lovely title to have. "The Destroyer". :)
>
> Did you assign that to them?
>

Yes >:(


>
> My wife has that title also. $4500 Macbook Pro meets wife with hot cup of
> tea. Wife wins. I didn't even cry.
>
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Bec Carter wrote:
>
>> No insurance but I was reimbursed by the destroyer.
>>
>> Bec
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:09 AM, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>>> How did it get destroyed, and did you have any insurance covering it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Bec Carter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>
>>>> I recently had my 13" 2012 macbook pro destroyed. 8GB RAM and 128GB
>>>> solid state. Spent around $1700 when I bought it. Loved using it as was
>>>> light, quick and just felt nice in my hands.
>>>> Now I have to replace it but I also need a new Windows laptop (13"
>>>> also) for some coding so thought I could get something that would replace
>>>> both.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone recommend something they've used or are using currently?
>>>> Same size, weight if possible, ram and solid state is a must. Budget under
>>>> 2k.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bec
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Meski
>>>
>>>http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>>>
>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>>>
>>
>>
>

[OT] Browser use

[Bec Carter]

This thread got me wondering if anybody here actually uses a browser other
than Chrome. By *use* I mean to personally browse and not to just test
sites across different browsers. Even on my now dead Macbook I used Chrome
and just find it nicer than Safari or IE.
Just curious :-)


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:10 PM, noonie  wrote:

> Ken,
>
> Different browsers different behaviours and now I know why. Different
> sites may be different user behaviours and I suspect I know why.
>
> Now all I have to figure out is how to "make it go away" because,
> fundamentally, that's all that users want ;-)
>
> --
> noonie
> On 21/05/2014 3:54 PM, "Ken Schaefer"  wrote:
>
>>  So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites?
>>
>>
>>
>> What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the
>> browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to
>> whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Ken,
>>
>>
>>
>> IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here,
>> things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> noonie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
>>
>>  I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy
>> server or not.
>>
>> Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it
>> should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from
>> the web server.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in
>> MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an
>> earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> noonie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 May 2014 19:22,  wrote:
>>
>>  I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have
>> logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
>> *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they
>> copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for
>> credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site.
>>
>> Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very
>> minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations.
>> I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be
>> automatically offered in one case but not in the other.
>>
>> Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire
>> together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> noonie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] Browser use

[Bec Carter]

What data and how can/do they use it? Emails? Don't think anybody cares
about my silly emails :-)


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

> I use Firefox, Chrome is great but I do not want to support a company that
> is so powerful and use your data what ever way they want.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:06 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Browser use
>
>
>
> I am pretty much with you. I find IE works better with VS so use it for
> most development unless I need to do a lot of client side debugging in
> which case I use Chrome. I then use Chrome for everyday use. I only use
> Firefox for cross browser testing.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
> I disagree. I think?
>
>
>
> I find I use Chrome and IE. For development it depends what I'm doing. If
> I want to hit a breakpoint in VS then IE does that. If I want to use the
> debugger in the browser then I use Chrome. IE keeps changing their
> Developer tools and even though they are improving I still find Chrome more
> productive for debugging.
>
>
>
> For actual USE I use Chrome for most things but occasionally something
> doesn't work right and I switch. Pluralsite for example seems to hang after
> a while in Chrome. No issues in IE.
>
> Not used Firefox in some years. Toggling between two is fine. A third
> becomes too much.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Burstin 
> wrote:
>
> I was using Firefox on some machines, but recently moved to Chrome as a
> political statement, not because I love Google but rather because I wanted
> to show my dissatisfaction with Firefox's political 
> correctness/censorship<http://readwrite.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-mozilla-resigns-ceo#awesm=~oEX2WzjEhsumsR>.
> (And in case you were wondering, I do support marriage equality but even
> more than that I support peoples right to disagree with me. Agree?)
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2014 11:43, Bec Carter  wrote:
>
> This thread got me wondering if anybody here actually uses a browser other
> than Chrome. By *use* I mean to personally browse and not to just test
> sites across different browsers. Even on my now dead Macbook I used Chrome
> and just find it nicer than Safari or IE.
>
> Just curious :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:10 PM, noonie  wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Different browsers different behaviours and now I know why. Different
> sites may be different user behaviours and I suspect I know why.
>
> Now all I have to figure out is how to "make it go away" because,
> fundamentally, that's all that users want ;-)
>
> --
> noonie
>
> On 21/05/2014 3:54 PM, "Ken Schaefer"  wrote:
>
> So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites?
>
>
>
> What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the
> browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to
> whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Thanks Ken,
>
>
>
> IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here,
> things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> noonie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
>
> I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy
> server or not.
>
> Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it
> should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from
> the web server.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in
> MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an
> earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser.
>
>
>
> --
>
> noonie
>
>
>
> On 19 May 2014 19:22,  wrote:
>
> I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have
> lo

Re: [OT] Browser use

[Bec Carter]

powerful and use your data what ever way they want.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:06 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Browser use
>
>
>
> I am pretty much with you. I find IE works better with VS so use it for
> most development unless I need to do a lot of client side debugging in
> which case I use Chrome. I then use Chrome for everyday use. I only use
> Firefox for cross browser testing.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
> I disagree. I think?
>
>
>
> I find I use Chrome and IE. For development it depends what I'm doing. If
> I want to hit a breakpoint in VS then IE does that. If I want to use the
> debugger in the browser then I use Chrome. IE keeps changing their
> Developer tools and even though they are improving I still find Chrome more
> productive for debugging.
>
>
>
> For actual USE I use Chrome for most things but occasionally something
> doesn't work right and I switch. Pluralsite for example seems to hang after
> a while in Chrome. No issues in IE.
>
> Not used Firefox in some years. Toggling between two is fine. A third
> becomes too much.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Burstin 
> wrote:
>
> I was using Firefox on some machines, but recently moved to Chrome as a
> political statement, not because I love Google but rather because I wanted
> to show my dissatisfaction with Firefox's political 
> correctness/censorship<http://readwrite.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-mozilla-resigns-ceo#awesm=~oEX2WzjEhsumsR>.
> (And in case you were wondering, I do support marriage equality but even
> more than that I support peoples right to disagree with me. Agree?)
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2014 11:43, Bec Carter  wrote:
>
> This thread got me wondering if anybody here actually uses a browser other
> than Chrome. By *use* I mean to personally browse and not to just test
> sites across different browsers. Even on my now dead Macbook I used Chrome
> and just find it nicer than Safari or IE.
>
> Just curious :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:10 PM, noonie  wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Different browsers different behaviours and now I know why. Different
> sites may be different user behaviours and I suspect I know why.
>
> Now all I have to figure out is how to "make it go away" because,
> fundamentally, that's all that users want ;-)
>
> --
> noonie
>
> On 21/05/2014 3:54 PM, "Ken Schaefer"  wrote:
>
> So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites?
>
>
>
> What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the
> browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to
> whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Thanks Ken,
>
>
>
> IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here,
> things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> noonie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
>
> I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy
> server or not.
>
> Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it
> should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from
> the web server.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in
> MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an
> earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser.
>
>
>
> --
>
> noonie
>
>
>
> On 19 May 2014 19:22,  wrote:
>
> I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have
> logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this?
>
>
>
> Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy
> text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials
> on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site.
>
> Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very
> minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations.
> I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be
> automatically offered in one case but not in the other.
>
> Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire
> together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer?
>
> --
> Regards,
> noonie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[OT] MSDN subscription

[Bec Carter]

Hi
I haven't needed one before (work always gave me one) but where should I
look to get an msdn subscription from? Cheapest obviously. Only need
windows, full office and visual studio at this stage.

Cheers

Re: [OT] MSDN subscription

[Bec Carter]

Haha.
I didn't realise this was so pricey! May just use VS express and use the
funds to buy a new laptop.

Cheers


On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 4:04 PM, David Burstin 
wrote:

> I look forward to the day that I have so much money that spending $10k for
> a product that costs $600 is trivial.
>
>
> On 30 May 2014 15:56, Stephen Price  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, you just start a new startup company every three years and join
>> BizSpark each time around.
>>
>> If you do that enough times, eventually you might even learn enough to
>> stop failing and $10k for a license will be trivial.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 1:50 PM, David Burstin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >> Yoiks! Does the next level up from Pro (premium?) still include
>>> Office stuff? I hope so, as that's why I upgraded last year.
>>>
>>> Yes, it comes with Premium, but at $9755 surely there must be cheaper
>>> ways to get Office???
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2014 15:45, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>>
  MSDN for the mere mortal doesn't include Office anymore. MAPS does.
>

 Yoiks! Does the next level up from Pro (premium?) still include Office
 stuff? I hope so, as that's why I upgraded last year.


> I get mine from MicroWay. They used to be cheapest, haven't checked
> for a while.
>

 I used Harris Technology.

 Greg

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] MSDN subscription

[Bec Carter]

Working on a few small side projects until I find a new job.

Cheers

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk 
wrote:

> Do you do any work on the side? If so look to BizSpark.
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Bec Carter 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I haven't needed one before (work always gave me one) but where should I
>> look to get an msdn subscription from? Cheapest obviously. Only need
>> windows, full office and visual studio at this stage.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>
>

Re: Programatically paying BPAY invoices

[Bec Carter]

I thought BPAY was something you had to do on your financial institution's
end, so you'd need to communicate with the bank's system to make a payment ?


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:19 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom 
wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
>
>
> Anyone know if there are any interfaces that allow you to programmatically
> pay a BPAY account (and get a receipt instantly)?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
> fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>
>
>

Re: [OT] Purchasing an iPad

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Thanks everyone for the suggestions about purchasing an iPad. We looked at
> the various options and compared prices and found that all the prices were
> in the same ballpark range (perhaps Apple control that). We had to go
> shopping on Saturday anyway, so we went to the hypnotically other-worldly
> Mac store in Southland and one of the "geniuses" gave a good run down on
> what the options were. They were matching competing prices at JB and Dick
> Smith anyway (if you knew to ask them) and there was also some sort of
> end-of-year discount as well.
>
> So eventually the missus got herself a mid-powered Mac Book to replace her
> 2006 vintage one, an iPad, an external DVD drive, an adapter for her Dell
> monitor and a "box" containing nothing but a card with a serial number on
> it to download Parallels so she can virtualise Windows.
>
> I must say ... their stuff looks and feels slick doesn't it. When I see
> how some of the software looks and behaves it makes me feel like giving up
> my job writing Windows software and going busking instead.
>

Definitely slicker than any Windows stuff. Windows software is lame as. I
miss my MBP :(


>
> *Greg K*
>
>
> On 27 June 2014 12:58, Stephen Price  wrote:
>
>> I got an email from jbhifi yesterday, 11% off all Apple computers until
>> Monday. Oh my bad just saw the fine print, excludes ipads. They do list
>> ipad with retina separately $55 off. $392 instead of $447
>>
>> Jbhifi are my favourite shop.  :)
>> On 27/06/2014 8:11 AM, "Greg Keogh"  wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, my wife is an editor and technical writer, and she just told me
>>> she needs an iPad quickly for her work. We are not familiar with the
>>> language, conventions or pricing of the Apple world. To hopefully avoid
>>> being robbed blind, can anyone here suggest the best way to chose and
>>> purchase an iPad?
>>>
>>> By comparison, a few months ago I purchased a Nexus-5 phone from the
>>> Google online store thanks to sage advice from my nephew and it was $300
>>> cheaper than walking into a Telstra shop and buying one. I wouldn't want to
>>> fall into a similar trap by maybe walking into an Apple store.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Greg K
>>>
>>
>

Re: Xamarin Hack Day

[Bec Carter]

Any Xamarin events in Melbourne?


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael Ridland  wrote:

>
> In case you missed it there's a Xamarin Hack day happening next Saturday.
> All are welcome.
>
> http://xamarinhackday.com/
>
>
>

Re: Xamarin Hack Day

[Bec Carter]

I am not offering :p


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Andrew Coates (DX AUSTRALIA) <
andrew.coa...@microsoft.com> wrote:

>  You offering to organise one? J
>
>
>
> Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1
> Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113
> Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 •
> http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat
>
> *Sent from the **new Office* <http://office.com/preview>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Bec Carter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 July 2014 3:18 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Xamarin Hack Day
>
>
>
> Any Xamarin events in Melbourne?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Michael Ridland  wrote:
>
>
>
> In case you missed it there's a Xamarin Hack day happening next Saturday.
> All are welcome.
>
> http://xamarinhackday.com/
>
>
>

Re: Developing for multiple Windows versions

[Bec Carter]

Does this tie into the "universal apps" business?


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:13 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:

> I’ve been reading some of the opinions from pundits in the IT press, such
> as Mary Jo Foley [1
> ].
> In this quote, she’s discussing the next Windows OS – assumed to be for 3
> distinct platforms: desktop/laptop, 2-in-1 devices like Surface Pro, and
> tablet/phone. “Threshold” or Windows 9 are used interchangeably for the
> next Windows release after 8.1.1.
>
> The Threshold OS will look and work differently based on hardware type.
>
> Users running Threshold on a desktop/laptop will get a SKU, or version,
> that puts the Windows Desktop (for running Win32/legacy apps) front and
> center. Two-in-one devices, like the Lenovo Yoga or Surface Pro, will
> support switching between the Metro-Style mode and the Windowed mode, based
> on whether or not keyboards are connected or disconnected.
>
> The combined Phone/Tablet SKU of Threshold won't have a Desktop
> environment at all, but still will support apps running side by side, my
> sources are reconfirming. This "Threshold Mobile" SKU will work on
> ARM-based Windows Phones (not just Lumias), ARM-based Windows tablets and,
> I believe, Intel-Atom-based tablets.
>
> One of Microsoft's primary missions with Threshold is to try to undo the
> usability mistakes made with Windows 8 for those who prefer and/or are
> stuck with devices that are not touch-first and for which keyboard/mouse
> use is of central importance.
>
> A sensible enough vision, if true – certainly it is more palatable from a
> user’s point of view (there are numerous articles that point out that
> desktop / tablet / phone devices are used differently, for different
> purposes – by the same individual, who may be predisposed towards on or
> other platform).
>
> And I think this insight or “realisation” by Microsoft (if that is what it
> is, as MJF and other media pundits like to say) may permit developers to
> focus more clearly on applications appropriate to these reasonably distinct
> Windows platforms.
>
> The Mary Jo Foley article is short, and of course has to throw in some of
> the attention-getting criticisms (Vista, start menu, etc) but this and
> other articles bring into focus some of the issues that forthcoming APIs
> need to address to bring this vision to reality.
> --
>
> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>

Re: [ot] intranet

[Bec Carter]

At a previous job we used TFS internally and it worked ok


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:22 PM,  wrote:

> Anyone have or use an internet system to record their procedures, manuals
> etc.   I have all sorts of docs for installing dotnet,  cerating a orchard
> cms site etc but need a central location to records these…maybe something
> like a wiki or intranet system?
>
>
>
> Any suggestion would be appreciated?
>
>
>
> Anthony Salerno | Founder | SmallBiz Australia
> Innovation | Web | Software | M2M | Developers | Support
> +613 8400 4191 | 2Anthony (at) smallbiz.com.au  | Po Box 135, Lower
> Plenty 3093 ABN : 16 079 706 737
>
> www.smallbiz.com.au | www.linkedin.com/in/innovativetechnology
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Optus to sell Office365

[Bec Carter]

Hey Greg, yup dealt with Telsta myself and they suck for this sort of
thing. Good luck with it all, i didn't have any success


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Greg Wood  wrote:

> On trying to find my latest office 365 query i found this thread again..
>
> So, 1 month ago I raised a ticket to get a company name change via
> Telstra
>
> Maybe it will get done by Christmas.
>
>
>
> Greg Wood
> -- In October 2014,  I'm riding 200km to help Cure Cancer
> -- Please donate, I need $2500 to actually ride -
>
> 
>
> g...@woodgreg.com
> 0417044439
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Greg Wood  wrote:
>
>> If you have ever tried to deal with Telstra about T-suite / office 365
>> you should be prepared to put your brain in neutral and set aside at least
>> an hour...
>>
>> Talking from experience, the most trivial request turns into a support
>> call going around in circles a few times.
>>
>>
>> Greg Wood
>> -- In October 2014,  I'm riding 200km to help Cure Cancer
>> -- Please donate, I need $2500 to actually ride -
>>
>> 
>>
>> g...@woodgreg.com
>> 0417044439
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:05 PM, ILT (O)  wrote:
>>
>>> Greg, I agree. Peripheral to the Office365 matter, I would like to see
>>> Microsoft with a more prominent “marketing presence” than has been so in
>>> the last many years. But not to the extent and manner of Apple Stores and
>>> the Genius Bar.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the 3-year deal with Telstra hinged on Telstra’s large
>>> commitment to ‘cloud’ in Australia, a platform which did require some
>>> selling – as did software as a service. I know the SBIT Pro group members
>>> were annoyed at the Telstra-only model, and I don’t think the addition of
>>> Optus would ameliorate that irritation.
>>>
>>> It was interesting to note the 1Tb cloud storage trumped by Google
>>> announcing ‘unlimited’.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ian Thomas
>>> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *GregAtGregLowDotCom
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:41 AM
>>> *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: Optus to sell Office365
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t want to see it forced through any reseller. I just want to have
>>> the option to deal directly with Microsoft. Other people in the loop just
>>> complicate support for me. I can do that with Google and with any number of
>>> other global providers, so why not Microsoft?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I was running a milk bar or a cafe, I might feel differently.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Both options should be available (ie: dealing with a partner if you need
>>> that type of help, or not dealing with one if you don’t need that type of
>>> help). And partners that push the products should be part of the ongoing
>>> return on the products. I used to like the model that some companies used
>>> when ADSL first appeared. Customers could deal directly with them if they
>>> wanted. Partners could be involved in getting people signed up, and if they
>>> did, they were part of the revenue stream from that point on (indefinitely
>>> in relation to those connections).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that I shouldn’t be penalised for being based in
>>> Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Greg Low
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
>>> fax
>>>
>>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
>>> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ] *On
>>> Behalf Of *ILT (O)
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 27 June 2014 7:56 PM
>>> *To:* ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
>>> *Subject:* Optus to sell Office365
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know the Small Business IT professionals groups around Australia have
>>> been p!ssed off with O365 sales being Telstra-controlled for so long, so
>>> this
>>> 
>>> announcement (SMH, today) is good news.
>>>
>>> *Optus gearing up to fight Telstra on Microsoft 365 turf *
>>>
>>> Optus is preparing to tread on Telstra’s turf in the cloud computing
>>> market after securing a long overdue partnership with Microsoft.
>>>
>>> There’s more interesting information in that SMH IT Pro article.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ian Thomas
>>> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>>>
>>
>>
>

[OT] Surface

[Bec Carter]

Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?

Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?

[OT] Quiet

[Bec Carter]

Just the other day a friend of mine mentioned how at a meeting with the big
guns at her office they were referring to C# as "legacy". Am I now the new
VB6 equivalent? N. Help.


On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>>
>
> Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and no
> one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is now
> a ninja guru and have no questions.
>
>
>> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>>
>
> No surface, however I was going to take my wife's brand new iPad to a
> meeting today to take notes, but I couldn't even figure out to close a
> browser window on it, so I'll come back to the idea later.
>
> *Greg*
>
>
>

Re: [OT] Quiet

[Bec Carter]

JS is still ugly to me no matter what the hipsters says


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Joseph Cooney 
wrote:

> Looking at data like http://langpop.corger.nl it seems like c# is alive
> and well. Java, PHP and JS are really the only languages of similar
> popularity. I imagine JS will probably pull ahead as more stuff goes to
> node, or server-side presentation logic moves to the client.
>
> Joseph
> On Sep 19, 2014 10:15 AM, "William Luu"  wrote:
>
>> Tech moves quickly.
>>
>> But C# is far from "legacy", it is a mature, yet still evolving language.
>>
>> C# 6 is coming - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dn683793.aspx
>> and
>> http://roslyn.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=CSharp%20Language%20Design%20Notes&referringTitle=Documentation
>> And some short videos on it -
>> https://www.wintellectnow.com/course/detail/what-s-new-in-c-6-visual-basic-dotnet-14-and-visual-studio-14
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19 September 2014 10:01, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>>> Just the other day a friend of mine mentioned how at a meeting with the
>>> big guns at her office they were referring to C# as "legacy". Am I now the
>>> new VB6 equivalent? N. Help.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete and
>>>> no one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group everyone is
>>>> now a ninja guru and have no questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev work?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No surface, however I was going to take my wife's brand new iPad to a
>>>> meeting today to take notes, but I couldn't even figure out to close a
>>>> browser window on it, so I'll come back to the idea later.
>>>>
>>>> *Greg*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] Angular and Durandal Converge

[Bec Carter]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Stephen Price 
wrote:

>  It's Friday guys. I'm going to go out on a limb here and propose a
> change to the [OT] “rules” of our OzDotNet Elist.
>
> We have a couple of hundred people still here, but the traffic is low.
> Possibly due to outsourcing to StackOverflow? Anyway, my proposal is we all
> relax the [OT] rules. If its a post on anything that you think might
> interest everyone/anyone on the list, lets not put [OT]. One could even
> argue that .Net posts should have the [OT] flag on them? Hehehe
>
> Things like religion, politics, and Greg’s experience of “Did you just
> feel that earthquake” should probably keep the [OT] flag, but it its
> anything to do with Tech or Dev, then it's on topic. Otherwise we risk
> dwindling into extinction. Myself this week I’ve gotten two epic tips on my
> Surface from a casual [OT] thread I would have otherwise missed out on. I'm
> staying and think you guys are awesome. Long live OzDotNet.
>

This list has become legacy it seems... perhaps I am a dinosaur now, the
same sort of dinosaur I used to fight against a few years ago who wanted to
stick with VBA and Access forever :(


>
> Regarding Angular, I've heard about it, seen it at a few talks, but so far
> not used it.  Have been using Kendo UI and JQuery in my MVC apps. I
> sometimes feel there are so many tools and libraries its hard to keep up on
> them all. Gotta pick a couple and use them. It's usually the ones that
> Microsoft put in Project templates that I run with. How do everyone else
> choose?
>

In most instances I "choose" by following the company's law of "thou shalt
use X". I call myself a wolf though, just for kicks


>
> Sent from Surface
>
> *From:* Nic Roche 
> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎19‎ ‎September‎ ‎2014 ‎9‎:‎03‎ ‎AM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
>
> Hi,
>
>
> This may seem _right_ off topic, but Rob Eisenburg is well known in WPF/JS
> circles and Angular is well worth looking at:
>
> http://blog.angularjs.org/2014/04/angular-and-durandal-converge.html
>
>
> Nic
>

Re: [OT] Quiet

[Bec Carter]

Haha made my day!

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:52 PM, mike smith  wrote:

>
> http://s3.crashworks.org.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/if-programming-languages-were-vehicles/
>
> I've got the APV
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Bec Carter 
> wrote:
>
>> JS is still ugly to me no matter what the hipsters says
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Joseph Cooney 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking at data like http://langpop.corger.nl it seems like c# is alive
>>> and well. Java, PHP and JS are really the only languages of similar
>>> popularity. I imagine JS will probably pull ahead as more stuff goes to
>>> node, or server-side presentation logic moves to the client.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>> On Sep 19, 2014 10:15 AM, "William Luu"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tech moves quickly.
>>>>
>>>> But C# is far from "legacy", it is a mature, yet still evolving
>>>> language.
>>>>
>>>> C# 6 is coming - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dn683793.aspx
>>>> and
>>>> http://roslyn.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=CSharp%20Language%20Design%20Notes&referringTitle=Documentation
>>>> And some short videos on it -
>>>> https://www.wintellectnow.com/course/detail/what-s-new-in-c-6-visual-basic-dotnet-14-and-visual-studio-14
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19 September 2014 10:01, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just the other day a friend of mine mentioned how at a meeting with
>>>>> the big guns at her office they were referring to C# as "legacy". Am I now
>>>>> the new VB6 equivalent? N. Help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Awfully quiet on here. Have people left?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed I was thinking that in recent weeks. Either .NET is obsolete
>>>>>> and no one wants to talk about it, or after a decade in the group 
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> is now a ninja guru and have no questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway anybody have a surface pro 3? Thoughts so far? Ok for dev
>>>>>>> work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No surface, however I was going to take my wife's brand new iPad to a
>>>>>> meeting today to take notes, but I couldn't even figure out to close a
>>>>>> browser window on it, so I'll come back to the idea later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Greg*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>

Re: Teched next week - Melbourne

[Bec Carter]

9? I'm stuck with 8 and want to go back to 7

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:29 PM, mike smith  wrote:

> 10? Whatever happened to 9?
> On 3 Oct 2014 17:06, "Stephen Price"  wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I'm going to TechEd next week (Melbourne) so If anyone else is going and
>> want to catch up, ping me an email or sms.
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing all the new goodies in Windows 10 and .Net
>> vNext.
>>
>> cheers
>> Stephen
>> 0428028599
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [OT] Windows on Macbook

[Bec Carter]

Yep considering doing the same.
Windows run ok on the MBP? Surface is way overpriced imo

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:09 PM,  wrote:

> Same here..thinking of getting a surface pro..but considering mac ultra
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
> *Sent:* Monday, 13 October 2014 8:19 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* [OT] Windows on Macbook
>
>
>
> Hey all
>
> Anybody here have a macbook running windows? Thinking of going down this
> path coz I can't decide on any other laptop/ultrabook
>
>
>

Re: [OT] Windows on Macbook

[Bec Carter]

I for one loved my macbook when i had it, loved the touchpad, loved the
load time and basically loved how the thing felt while i used it. Have not
seen any other laptop that "feels" the same if that makes any sense :-)

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  Aren’t there a half dozen laptops out there that have specs like a MBP
> that you can run Windows? What’s so special about the MBP (assuming you
> don’t want to run MacOSX)?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Rutter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 October 2014 9:33 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Windows on Macbook
>
>
>
> MS should have done that instead of making the Surface :p
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
>  Man, if Apple one day released a Mac laptop with a Windows keyboard
> they'd make a killing. But that'd be like admitting their OS is crap and
> they would never give up control over the software side of things. But
> seriously. Imagine a Win Book Pro. I'd so buy one and put windows on it.
> Not having a Del key drives me spare. Its one key for gods sake. Why do I
> miss it so much?
>
>
>
>
> +61 (0) 428 028 599
>
> step...@lythixdesigns.com
>
> @lythixdesigns | @lyynx
>
> www.lythixdesigns.com
>
> www.linkedin.com/in/lyynx
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:41 AM, Scott Barnes 
> wrote:
>
> I've been running windows on macs since vista .. Even at Microsoft I had
> an iMac and MacBook Pro  and have never had issues with the setup except
> sometimes boot camp and sound drivers can be hit n miss around release time
> ..
>
>
>
> Performance wise I run parallels/win8 daily and it has no issues with
> Visual Studio/Blend either .. Well none for me anyway
>
>
> On Monday, 13 October 2014, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>
>  Hey all
>
> Anybody here have a macbook running windows? Thinking of going down this
> path coz I can't decide on any other laptop/ultrabook
>
>
>

Re: Hacked together standing desk

[Bec Carter]

A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to
alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts
of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but
your hips, knees and feet may start hurting.
 Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better.
My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello
($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up…
>>
>
> Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that
> there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea
> sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg
> K*
>

Re: Hacked together standing desk

[Bec Carter]

For sure- Im very active and used to run before work and hit a class at the
gym at lunch times and still had problems. After a few months doing the
stan/sit combo my hip and back issues went away. Stretches are good too
like Stephen said. Corrective stretches that is, not any old stretch that
can actually do more damage than good.   Wish they taught us better about
our bodies at school :(

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:33 PM,  wrote:

>  Haha - interesting technique 😊 …
>
> Apparantly even if you’re active (gym, running, etc ) after work - this
> doesn’t negate the damage that sitting down for long periods of time does…
> I’m assuming more research will take place in this area…
>
> Jason Roberts
> Journeyman Software Developer
>
> Twitter: @robertsjason
> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>
> ===
> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
> ===
>
> *From:* Stephen Price 
> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎31‎ ‎October‎ ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎03‎ ‎AM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
>
> Personally,  I think it's great that people are looking after themselves.
> I don't really find it practical to have a stand up station mainly due to
> a shortage of space (plus multi monitor setup). My way of looking after
> myself (I had a bad desk/chair set up some years ago and ended up with
> wrist problems) is to do stretching, some wrist exercises/stretches (which
> physio showed me when I had treatment for wrist strain) and most
> importantly regular breaks.
> I drink lots of water, which is also a good thing (keep hydrated!) which
> promotes regular trips to the toilet. :)
> This enforces regular breaks. You should not be hammering away at your
> keyboard for hours and hours without a break. The thing I saw on breaks
> should be five minutes in every hour. You can get software that interrupts
> your session but I don't like the idea of that, you know interruptions
> disrupt your coding. What works for me is the forced loo breaks. Without
> going too deep (i'll spare you) get a warning (ie its not sudden) and you
> definitely can't ignore it! It's funny but it really works. It does take a
> while to learn how much you need to drink for it to work. You could time
> when you drink water (and how much) so that you can get the number of
> breaks you want/need. There would be other variables such as
> weather/temperature and how dehydrated you are.
> Funny but true story. :)
> Even if it is Friday.
>
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:13 AM,  wrote:
>
>>  Cool, thanks Bec 😊 I’m building up slowly, yesterday I did a total of
>> 2 hours standing (not all in one go)
>>
>> Jason Roberts
>> Journeyman Software Developer
>>
>> Twitter: @robertsjason
>> Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
>> Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts
>>
>> ===
>> I welcome VSRE emails. Learn more at http://vsre.info/
>> ===
>>
>> *From:* Bec Carter 
>> *Sent:* ‎Friday‎, ‎31‎ ‎October‎ ‎2014 ‎8‎:‎02‎ ‎AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>>
>> A good friend is a physio and always recommends for best results to
>> alternate every hour or so. Standing for 8 hrs just hurts different parts
>> of your body. Your hip flexors may not get tight/short like sitting but
>> your hips, knees and feet may start hurting.
>>  Took me a couple months to get used to it but now feel much better.
>> My previous job had great electric standing/sitting desks from Schiavello
>> ($2800 i think it was). I now have 2 desks at home to do the same thing
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>
>>> Will be interesting doing a full weeks work next week standing up…
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have a bad back or similar? Do you have reliable evidence that
>>> there is some benefit to working standing up for extended periods? The idea
>>> sets off warning bells in my head (oh my poor feet and ankles!) -- *Greg
>>> K*
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: .NET Core is now open source

[Bec Carter]

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Michael Ridland  wrote:

>
> Well you can't sell software anymore only devices and services, why not
> open source and sell  azure. It's a great and essential business move for
> MS.


Now MS just need to make Windows free


> Definitely good news for any Microsoft developers, especially since over
> the last few years we've been getting 'beaten' by rails and other
> platforms.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 14, 2014, David Kean  wrote:
>
>>  This is something that my immediate team has been pushing for a little
>> while internally and finally announced yesterday:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2014/11/12/net-core-is-open-source.aspx
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> This is going to be pretty massive for Microsoft and the community. It
>> will be the biggest code base that we’ve open sourced and is one of the
>> biggest changes I’ve seen in the ~13 years I’ve been using .NET (and now
>> working on .NET).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible?

[Bec Carter]

Sorry everyone but this one is way way off topic.

Someone claims to have sent me an email. I never received it- yes I checked
the Junk folder :-)
They've shown me their mailbox and its sitting in the Sent folder.

Can someone with control of their web domain send an email, have it pop
into the Sent items folder but not actually send? Say by somehow turning
off (or providing a faulty) outgoing mail server setting or similar?

Cheers

Re: [OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible?

[Bec Carter]

Haha thanks guys but this case is quite suspicious. It was sent over two
weeks ago and it just happens the most important email is the only one
which didn't arrive. All others arrived. I'm not buying it. :-) Is it
possible to achieve this by tampering with the mail server settings or some
other way?

Noonie- I've not been able to replicate this by dragging into the sent
folder in gmail. Perhaps Outlook will do it but that would be quite dodgy.

Cheers


On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Stephen Price 
wrote:

> I always marvel at how people use email for business. As if it were
> guaranteed delivery. The technology has been around longer than the
> internet and I'd not be surprised if its not been changed in all that time.
> I'd like to hope it has but not looked into it. Might put that on my
> weekend reading list. Right after a few marvel comics. :)
> On Nov 28, 2014 4:12 PM, "noonie"  wrote:
>
>> Bec,
>>
>> The mail client might let you drag an email into sent items.
>>
>> Email is not guaranteed to be delivered. That's not part of the spec
>> (though you might be able to interpret it that way).
>>
>> So they could have sent it and you still might receive it next week, or
>> never...
>>
>> Isn't that just peachy?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> noonie
>> On 28/11/2014 5:17 pm, "Bec Carter"  wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry everyone but this one is way way off topic.
>>>
>>> Someone claims to have sent me an email. I never received it- yes I
>>> checked the Junk folder :-)
>>> They've shown me their mailbox and its sitting in the Sent folder.
>>>
>>> Can someone with control of their web domain send an email, have it pop
>>> into the Sent items folder but not actually send? Say by somehow turning
>>> off (or providing a faulty) outgoing mail server setting or similar?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible?

[Bec Carter]

Thanks guys, appreciate the help.

Cheers

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Greg Harris <
g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com> wrote:

> Hi Bec,
>
>
> Email uses a store and forward approach, the computer wanting to send the
> email stores the email until it can see another computer that it forwards
> it to that is closer to the recipient, when it will forward the email to
> the next computer, which will start the process over again.  This is
> repeated until the mail gets through.
>
>
> I am sure there is a way to look at the email headers to see the number of
> these hops the mail has made to get from user A to user B.  But it could be
> quite a few.
>
>
> All you need is one of those computers to lose the email (should be a rare
> occurrence), or go off line during the store phase and you have a lost or
> delayed email.
>
>
> With the number of hops that the email has to go through, there are going
> to be multiple different OS’s and mail programs that will be touching the
> email, each of which may have different processes.
>
> This is a classic case of if any of them go wrong, the mail will not get
> through!  99.9% plus of the time it works great, but you have to allow for
> the possibility that one of the machines between user A and user B ate the
> email.
>
>
> If an email is important, you should copy it to a third party, so that you
> can ask that third party, did you get it to prove that it was sent and/or
> follow up the email with a direct call to the recipient to make sure it was
> received, read and understood!
>
>
> The answer to your question “Is it possible to achieve this by tampering
> with the mail server settings or some other way?” I would be about 99%
> sure it is, but if you brought in the forensic IT guys, I am sure that they
> could find some form of audit trail to show the manipulation of the system.
>
>
> Regards Greg
>
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:31 AM, ILT (O)  wrote:
>
>> Bec - have you looked at the (prior) email headers from this person? That
>> will tell you what email client is normally used, and some other
>> intermediate server information.
>>
>> I have just tested this, and It’s possible for (for example) using
>> Outlook desktop versions to copy or move items to and from the Sent Items
>> folder.
>>
>> Without looking at the sender’s emailer, and forensically examining the
>> headers - Sent, Received, Created dates (etc) - you’re not going to win an
>> argument though, I reckon.
>> --
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>> Albert Park, Victoria
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Bec Carter
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:57 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible?
>>
>>
>>
>> Haha thanks guys but this case is quite suspicious. It was sent over two
>> weeks ago and it just happens the most important email is the only one
>> which didn't arrive. All others arrived. I'm not buying it. :-) Is it
>> possible to achieve this by tampering with the mail server settings or some
>> other way?
>>
>>
>>
>> Noonie- I've not been able to replicate this by dragging into the sent
>> folder in gmail. Perhaps Outlook will do it but that would be quite dodgy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Stephen Price 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I always marvel at how people use email for business. As if it were
>> guaranteed delivery. The technology has been around longer than the
>> internet and I'd not be surprised if its not been changed in all that time.
>> I'd like to hope it has but not looked into it. Might put that on my
>> weekend reading list. Right after a few marvel comics. :)
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2014 4:12 PM, "noonie"  wrote:
>>
>> Bec,
>>
>> The mail client might let you drag an email into sent items.
>>
>> Email is not guaranteed to be delivered. That's not part of the spec
>> (though you might be able to interpret it that way).
>>
>> So they could have sent it and you still might receive it next week, or
>> never...
>>
>> Isn't that just peachy?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> noonie
>>
>> On 28/11/2014 5:17 pm, "Bec Carter"  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry everyone but this one is way way off topic.
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone claims to have sent me an email. I never received it- yes I
>> checked the Junk folder :-)
>>
>> They've shown me their mailbox and its sitting in the Sent folder.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can someone with control of their web domain send an email, have it pop
>> into the Sent items folder but not actually send? Say by somehow turning
>> off (or providing a faulty) outgoing mail server setting or similar?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: WP - prepare for universal app development in Windows 10

[Bec Carter]

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Stephen Price 
wrote:

> Universal apps are lovely.
>
> there you go.
>

LOL


> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> It’s interesting to read the comments, and the Microsoft replies – about
>>> what is currently missing from “universal” and why Silverlight is more
>>> suitable, at present.
>>>
>>
>> Good grief! I didn't previously scroll down to see those comments. I
>> don't think this migration to WinRT should have been announced until all of
>> the glaring omissions were available. Alarms, reminders, copy-paste, local
>> database, WCF (they must be kidding, or can't talk to anything)... The
>> whole RT and winmd files thing leaves me bewildered by more divergence and
>> too many choices, everything is fragmenting without a clear goal in sight.
>> Has anyone got anything nice to say about "universal apps"?-- *Greg K*
>>
>
>

[OT] Bad solicitor

[Bec Carter]

Hello all,
I'm very sorry for the off topic post but I need some help with a
problem I'm having with a solicitor. I recently purchased a property
and had a certain solicitor handle the matter. Upon settlement I
noticed that the figures simply did not add up and the seller was in
fact paid more than the 100% purchase price for some unknown reason. I
have questioned the solicitor several times about this and have not
received any reasonable response. They have also been extremely rude.

More than happy to accept the figures given they can be explained but
cannot accept them without any explanation at all.  Is there somewhere
I can report them to and have the matter followed up?
Cheers, Bec

Re: [OT] Bad solicitor

[Bec Carter]

Thanks to all for the responses- it turns out the solicitor never sent
me a 'settlement statement'. Getting one shortly so hopefully it
explains everything.
Cheers, Bec

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:59 AM, David Connors  wrote:
> On 10 May 2010 11:50, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> I'm very sorry for the off topic post but I need some help with a
>> problem I'm having with a solicitor. I recently purchased a property
>> and had a certain solicitor handle the matter. Upon settlement I
>> noticed that the figures simply did not add up and the seller was in
>> fact paid more than the 100% purchase price for some unknown reason. I
>> have questioned the solicitor several times about this and have not
>> received any reasonable response. They have also been extremely rude.
>
> The settlement statement for the transaction should add up - however on the
> place we bought at the end of last year the conveyancing solicitor produced
> a document that was a complete load of cr4p that neither I nor Westpac could
> understand. I ended up redoing the settlement statement myself and sending
> it back to both parties.
> If there was finance involved, then I would suggest talking to the bank as
> they will have conveyancing people on board who are pretty switched on as
> they do it day in and day out.
>>
>> More than happy to accept the figures given they can be explained but
>> cannot accept them without any explanation at all.  Is there somewhere
>> I can report them to and have the matter followed up?
>
> If it were me I would ask for a settlement statement for the transaction
> from your conveyancing solicitor. That will break it all down for you.
> Remember (at least in QLD) the buyer is liable for the stamp duty and the
> seller is liable for the agent's fees. Also, if the bank is co-ordinating
> they will be plugging every conceivable fee and charge in along the way
> (property valuation, finance 'package' fees, etc, etc), registration fees
> for mortgage, and so on.
> Asking for property transaction advice on a programming list is probably not
> a great first port of call but I think just staying cool and calm and
> getting a complete settlement statement is the go. If you can't make sense
> of that and if it still does not add up, then ring another conveyancing
> solicitor and ask for an hourly rate to have the partner there give it the
> once over.
> --
> David Connors (da...@codify.com)
> Software Engineer
> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com
> Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417
> 189 363
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> Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
>
>

Re: ASP.NET Control databinding, member properties, dynamically fetch property name?

[Bec Carter]

not answering your questions directly but another option is to define
the datasource in the markup and link it to the combobox which lets
you change the property names without needing to regenerate the
assembly.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Winston Pang  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
>
> This is more of a question of whether or not this sounds feasible and has
> anyone seen anyone do this:
>
>
> Typically with most ASP.NET controls, lets take the ComboBox for an example,
> it'll be like
>
> this.comboBox.DataSource = someList;
> this.comboBox.DisplayMember = "Property1";
> this.comboBox.ValueMember = "Property2";
>
> The client we're dealing with, has specifically told us to not "hard-code"
> these property names, and to use reflection, through lambda expressions to
> derive the property name.
>
> Firstly, do you think this will add a lot of overhead? I'm guessing it'll be
> ok-ish, considering ASP.NET MVC uses it a lot.
>
> Also, has anyone seen people do it this way?
>
> It this a stupid thing to do? I think it has it's merits to an extent, but
> it sure doesn't seem common to me.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Winston
>

Custom exception?

[Bec Carter]

Hi!
>From the more experienced programmers here, when is it appropriate to
create custom exceptions?
I am finding a mix of opinions around.

eg. I have a class which generates reports. Part of the process is to
create a directory if it does not already exist. If the create
directory  fails several types of exceptions can be thrown like
System.UnauthorizedAccessException, DirectoryNotFoundException and so
on. Should the caller of this class care about all of these or should
they just worry about catching a ReportGenerationException which tells
them exactly what went wrong?

Cheers. --Bec--

Re: Custom exception?

[Bec Carter]

Well actually its currently the former, the caller passes in the temp
directory for the report generator to use. I did it like this because
the report generator is a separate assembly (a class library) so the
caller reads the configured value from the app.config and passes it in
to the library. Is this not the way to go maybe?

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:06 PM, David Connors  wrote:
> On 9 June 2010 11:59, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> eg. I have a class which generates reports. Part of the process is to
>> create a directory if it does not already exist. If the create
>> directory  fails several types of exceptions can be thrown like
>> System.UnauthorizedAccessException, DirectoryNotFoundException and so
>> on. Should the caller of this class care about all of these or should
>> they just worry about catching a ReportGenerationException which tells
>> them exactly what went wrong?
>
> In the interests of lower module coupling & abstraction, I would always
> choose the latter. The fact that you need to create directories to do
> whatever is (well, should be I would think) pretty irrelevant to the caller
> (which might be an ASPX or something that wants to show the report to the
> end user).
> In the future you might choose to rewrite your class to work off a DB, cloud
> storage, or something else.
> --
> David Connors (da...@codify.com)
> Software Engineer
> Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com
> Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417
> 189 363
> V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
> Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact
>
>

Re: Custom exception?

[Bec Carter]

Yes, no doubt on this one - always wrap the original exception inside
the custom one

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:13 PM,   wrote:
> Note that if you use the latter approach then you should always include
> the original exception as an inner exception to the
> ReportGenerationException.
>
> It's very frustrating to debug an application and get a general
> exception that doesn't include all the information you need or at least
> could have available simply because the developer decided to throw away
> information for no good reason (and I don't think there is ever a good
> reason not to include the inner exception - if no one cares then they
> don't have to look at it, and if they do they have a full stack trace
> and details of the *original* exception).
>
> Ben
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Kean
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2010 10:03 AM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: RE: Custom exception?
>
> Does the user of the class specify the directory? Or is this hidden from
> them? If the former, it's entirely appropriate to throw IOExceptions
> because that's what they would expect. If the later, then throw the
> custom exception.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:00 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Custom exception?
>
> Hi!
> >From the more experienced programmers here, when is it appropriate to
> create custom exceptions?
> I am finding a mix of opinions around.
>
> eg. I have a class which generates reports. Part of the process is to
> create a directory if it does not already exist. If the create directory
> fails several types of exceptions can be thrown like
> System.UnauthorizedAccessException, DirectoryNotFoundException and so
> on. Should the caller of this class care about all of these or should
> they just worry about catching a ReportGenerationException which tells
> them exactly what went wrong?
>
> Cheers. --Bec--
>
>
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Re: Custom exception?

[Bec Carter]

Hi Greg, you've hit the nail right on the head. I always tend to
create "black box" classes even when they are specific to a single
project which complicates things and wastes my time. I have now seen
the error in my ways. Cheers

Thanks everyone for the help!

--Bec--

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
> Bec, you seem to own the code that makes the report and it’s a part of your
> project, it doesn’t sound like a reusable “black box” library. I’d treat
> each of these cases differently. The Framework Design Guidelines book
> explains all of this clearly, and I highly recommend everyone in here keep a
> copy by their bedside table.
>
>
>
> Since your are the caller and author I’d say you have the right to catch the
> two exceptions you mentions and deal with them (just don’t catch Exception
> and swallow).
>
>
>
> However, if this was a reusable library I would tend to create something
> like a ReportGenerationException which callers can always trust to catch
> from calling the library methods. This would give you a more generic and
> friendly error message about what went wrong, but I would still have the
> original as the InnerException. And the reusable library must not swallow
> exceptions either. Never catch anything unless you know exactly what you’re
> going to do with it.
>
>
>
> Greg

Implement IDisposable?

[Bec Carter]

Hi!

I have a class which uses temporary files to do its stuff. What do you
recommend for ensuring things get cleaned up when things go bad?
IDisposable? Or perhaps a big try/finally inside the class functions?

Cheers  --Bec--

Re: Implement IDisposable?

[Bec Carter]

Hmmm after thinking about it more carefully the temp stuff should be
contained to a single method so the try/finally seems like the
simplest solution.

Cheers Michael and Joseph. :-)

Cheers  --Bec--


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Michael Minutillo
 wrote:
> Depends on the scope of operation that the temp files are open. If you open
> a temp file inside a method and then close it again before exiting the
> method then a try/finally is appropriate. If the temp file has to remain
> open between method calls then cleaning up in IDisposable is probably for
> the best.
>
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have a class which uses temporary files to do its stuff. What do you
>> recommend for ensuring things get cleaned up when things go bad?
>> IDisposable? Or perhaps a big try/finally inside the class functions?
>>
>> Cheers  --Bec--
>
>
>
> --
> Michael M. Minutillo
> Indiscriminate Information Sponge
> Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
>

VB10 auto readonly properties?

[Bec Carter]

In C# I can do this

public string MyProperty { get; private set; }

What is the VB10 equivalent? Hopefully not the long way :(

Re: VB10 auto readonly properties?

[Bec Carter]

Damn! Thanks Winston!

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Winston Pang  wrote:
> Also, backing connect report:
>
> https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/457176/readonly-auto-implemented-properties
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Winston Pang 
> wrote:
>>
>> Don't think it's supported, has to be the long way, i.e.
>>
>>     ReadOnly Property Test As String
>>         Get
>>
>>         End Get
>>     End Property
>>
>> ReadOnly Property
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Bec Carter 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In C# I can do this
>>>
>>> public string MyProperty { get; private set; }
>>>
>>> What is the VB10 equivalent? Hopefully not the long way :(
>>
>
>

Re: VB10 auto readonly properties?

[Bec Carter]

Yes but that is not a property. Just a public readonly variable.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Gordon Jones  wrote:
> Im not sure - but I think the following is nw supported
>
> Public Readonly Test() as string
>
> whit I think can also takea default value is this form
>
> Public Readonly Test() as string  = "VALUE"
>
> the value is set up in a variable wiht the same name as the property name
> prefixed wiht underscore:
> _Test which takes the same type as the property.  I seem to remember that
> you can not declear this variable otherwise it breaks the compile and you
> have to set up the property the long way.  but you can use it.
>
> As I say all this is from memory nubut I hope it is correct
>
> Martyn
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:18:38 +1000
>> Subject: Re: VB10 auto readonly properties?
>> From: bec.usern...@gmail.com
>> To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com
>>
>> Damn! Thanks Winston!
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Winston Pang 
>> wrote:
>> > Also, backing connect report:
>> >
>> >
>> > https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/457176/readonly-auto-implemented-properties
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Winston Pang 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Don't think it's supported, has to be the long way, i.e.
>> >>
>> >>     ReadOnly Property Test As String
>> >>         Get
>> >>
>> >>         End Get
>> >>     End Property
>> >>
>> >> ReadOnly Property
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Bec Carter 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> In C# I can do this
>> >>>
>> >>> public string MyProperty { get; private set; }
>> >>>
>> >>> What is the VB10 equivalent? Hopefully not the long way :(
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
> 
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[OT] HTTPS and Email

[Bec Carter]

G'Day!
Just signed up with a new web hosting company and noticed the
web-based email doesn't have https.so my login and password get
passed in clear text. Is this normal procedure or should I be worried?
Cheers

Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

Good mornin' all!

I've a requirement to put certain values (after computing them) in
various spots in a very large text file. So basically the starting
text file can have placeholders where these computed values will end
up- like a template. Then my code will compute some values based on
user input and i need to fill in the placeholders.
Is there a better way to do this besides a simple string replace?

Cheers.
Bec

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Noon Silk  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>> Good mornin' all!
>>
>> I've a requirement to put certain values (after computing them) in
>> various spots in a very large text file. So basically the starting
>> text file can have placeholders where these computed values will end
>> up- like a template. Then my code will compute some values based on
>> user input and i need to fill in the placeholders.
>>
>> Is there a better way to do this besides a simple string replace?
>
> Well, no. You'll need to read the file in and find your tokens and
> replace them. Depending on how large the file it, you might need to do
> this line by line, or chunk by chunk, writing out as you read in, but
> inevitably it comes down to looking for a sequence and replacing it
> with another.
>
> How large is "very large"? Megs? Gigs?
>

Yup reading all into a string right now and replacing. File is around 750 megs

>
>> Cheers.
>> Bec
>
> --
> Noon Silk
>
> http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/  (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 >
>
> Fancy a quantum lunch?
> http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch
>
> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy
> of being this signature."
>

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Noon Silk  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Noon Silk  wrote:
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>>> Good mornin' all!
>>>>
>>>> I've a requirement to put certain values (after computing them) in
>>>> various spots in a very large text file. So basically the starting
>>>> text file can have placeholders where these computed values will end
>>>> up- like a template. Then my code will compute some values based on
>>>> user input and i need to fill in the placeholders.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better way to do this besides a simple string replace?
>>>
>>> Well, no. You'll need to read the file in and find your tokens and
>>> replace them. Depending on how large the file it, you might need to do
>>> this line by line, or chunk by chunk, writing out as you read in, but
>>> inevitably it comes down to looking for a sequence and replacing it
>>> with another.
>>>
>>> How large is "very large"? Megs? Gigs?
>>>
>>
>> Yup reading all into a string right now and replacing. File is around 750 
>> megs
>
> Mm, in that case I would definitely think reading in chunk by chunk
> would be better.
>
> So, you read in chunks of chars in a char[], and then you must look
> for the start of your token. Taking care to note that you could end up
> in the middle of your token, something like:
>
> // Pseudocode
> char[] data = { "$te" }
> char[] nextData = { "st$" }
>
> Where the token is "$test$".
>
> Depending on your data, it might be that reading lines is enough, and
> do the replace on that basis. Hopefully this is somewhat clear. I had
> a quick search and couldn't find a nice example on doing this, but it
> should be easy enough using StreamReader or friends. If it's not clear
> I can show an example later on.
>

That's fine thanks. Line by line would be ok as the data will never be
broken up and flow onto the next line.

I was kinda hoping there'd be something specifically built for this-
seems like I'm creating mail merge all over again :-)

> --
> Noon Silk
>
> http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/  (Noon Silk) | http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 >
>
> Fancy a quantum lunch?
> http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch
>
> "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy
> of being this signature."
>

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Michael Minutillo
 wrote:
> If you're in .NET 4.0 land then I'd do something similar to this:
> public string ReplaceTokens(string src) { /* ... */ }
> File.WriteAllLines(outputFileName,
> File.ReadLines(inputFileName).Select(ReplaceTokens));
> The ReadLines call (new to .NET 4.0) reads one line at a time and returns it
> as you iterate over it so in theory you don't need to have the whole file in
> memory. Don't use the ReadAllLines method on a 750MB file which DOES read
> the whole thing in before you start.
>
>

Cool I hadn't seen that in .NET 4.0. Cheers

>
> --
> Michael M. Minutillo
> Indiscriminate Information Sponge
> Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Grant Molloy  wrote:
>>
>> Bec,
>> Read this article and download the demo..
>> It goes through several different options for "find and replace" in large
>> text strings..
>> http://www.codeproject.com/KB/string/fastestcscaseinsstringrep.aspx
>> Grant
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Noon Silk  wrote:
>>> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Bec Carter 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Noon Silk 
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Bec Carter 
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>> Good mornin' all!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I've a requirement to put certain values (after computing them) in
>>> >>>> various spots in a very large text file. So basically the starting
>>> >>>> text file can have placeholders where these computed values will end
>>> >>>> up- like a template. Then my code will compute some values based on
>>> >>>> user input and i need to fill in the placeholders.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Is there a better way to do this besides a simple string replace?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Well, no. You'll need to read the file in and find your tokens and
>>> >>> replace them. Depending on how large the file it, you might need to
>>> >>> do
>>> >>> this line by line, or chunk by chunk, writing out as you read in, but
>>> >>> inevitably it comes down to looking for a sequence and replacing it
>>> >>> with another.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How large is "very large"? Megs? Gigs?
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Yup reading all into a string right now and replacing. File is around
>>> >> 750 megs
>>> >
>>> > Mm, in that case I would definitely think reading in chunk by chunk
>>> > would be better.
>>> >
>>> > So, you read in chunks of chars in a char[], and then you must look
>>> > for the start of your token. Taking care to note that you could end up
>>> > in the middle of your token, something like:
>>> >
>>> > // Pseudocode
>>> > char[] data = { "$te" }
>>> > char[] nextData = { "st$" }
>>> >
>>> > Where the token is "$test$".
>>> >
>>> > Depending on your data, it might be that reading lines is enough, and
>>> > do the replace on that basis. Hopefully this is somewhat clear. I had
>>> > a quick search and couldn't find a nice example on doing this, but it
>>> > should be easy enough using StreamReader or friends. If it's not clear
>>> > I can show an example later on.
>>> >
>>>
>>> That's fine thanks. Line by line would be ok as the data will never be
>>> broken up and flow onto the next line.
>>>
>>> I was kinda hoping there'd be something specifically built for this-
>>> seems like I'm creating mail merge all over again :-)
>>>
>>> > --
>>> > Noon Silk
>>> >
>>> > http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/  (Noon Silk) |
>>> > http://www.mirios.com.au:8081 >
>>> >
>>> > Fancy a quantum lunch?
>>> > http://www.mirios.com.au:8081/index.php?title=Quantum_Lunch
>>> >
>>> > "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy — the joy
>>> > of being this signature."
>>> >
>>
>
>

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Michael Minutillo
 wrote:
> Well, if the template size isn't going change and this is the only app
> running on the machine then so be it. Chances are good that neither of those
> things is true. I'd still err on the side of having a single line memory at
> a time because it's not like the optimization is making it any harder to
> read or understand.
>

Yup template file will mostly likely not change and app will always
run locally as an exe. This sort of optimisation you suggested seems
good enough to use as it is fairly simple.

...But I was kinda questioning the design of doing things this way at
all. It seems like what I want is a dynamic "page" (like a webform)
that can run and spit out text just like an asp page does.so the
placeholders would really be <%= %> tags. Is something like this an
option? Can I somehow run an asp.net page locally? Will this cause
performance problems for 750megs of data which is around 70 pages? Am
I going completely crazy? :-)


> Michael M. Minutillo
> Indiscriminate Information Sponge
> Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Michael Minutillo
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> If you're in .NET 4.0 land then I'd do something similar to this:
>>> public string ReplaceTokens(string src) { /* ... */ }
>>> File.WriteAllLines(outputFileName,
>>> File.ReadLines(inputFileName).Select(ReplaceTokens));
>>> The ReadLines call (new to .NET 4.0) reads one line at a time and returns
>>> it as you iterate over it so in theory you don't need to have the whole file
>>> in memory. Don't use the ReadAllLines method on a 750MB file which DOES read
>>> the whole thing in before you start.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Is that a real problem given physical RAM these days?  If you're going to
>> write multiple outputs from the one template file of 750 it's going to
>> rapidly get more efficient to have the template in-ram.   Wait a moment.
>>  You don't work for Readers Digest, do you?  I have no desire whatever to
>> make them more efficient.
>> --
>> Meski
>>
>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>
>

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Bill McCarthy
 wrote:
> If the templates don't change often, but are used somewhat more often, then
> it might be worth pre-processing them: that is parse them initially, and
> spit them out in parts with a directive file. Then you simply read the
> directive file and stitch the parts together.
>
> Eg:
> Long text <%=placeholder1 %> more text <%=someotherplaceholder%> even more
> text
>
> Would be preprocessed into 3 files and one directive file. The directive
> file would just list the parts and placeholder sequence: eg:
>
> 
>   file1.txt
>   placeholder1
>  file2.txt
>    someotherplaceholder
> file3.txt
> 
>
> This would save you re-parsing the templates.  Whether or not it is worth
> the effort in your case is something you'd have to decide on. I wouldn't
> bother unless initial performance and/or you are doing a lot of re-use of
> the templates.
>

Thanks for that Bill this is actually something like what I
considered. I shall re-examine it.

> As to using a asp.net style parser, it's a possibility, but probably not
> worth the overhead or time it would take to investigate another engine.
>
>
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-
> |boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Bec Carter
> |Sent: Monday, 7 February 2011 1:42 PM
> |To: ozDotNet
> |Subject: Re: Placeholders in large text file
> |
> |On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Michael Minutillo
> | wrote:
> |> Well, if the template size isn't going change and this is the only app
> |> running on the machine then so be it. Chances are good that neither of
> |> those things is true. I'd still err on the side of having a single
> |> line memory at a time because it's not like the optimization is making
> |> it any harder to read or understand.
> |>
> |
> |Yup template file will mostly likely not change and app will always run
> locally
> |as an exe. This sort of optimisation you suggested seems good enough to use
> as
> |it is fairly simple.
> |
> |...But I was kinda questioning the design of doing things this way at all.
> It seems
> |like what I want is a dynamic "page" (like a webform) that can run and spit
> out
> |text just like an asp page does.so the placeholders would really be <%=
> %>
> |tags. Is something like this an option? Can I somehow run an asp.net page
> |locally? Will this cause performance problems for 750megs of data which is
> |around 70 pages? Am I going completely crazy? :-)
> |
> |
> |> Michael M. Minutillo
> |> Indiscriminate Information Sponge
> |> Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
> |>
> |>
> |> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM, mike smith  wrote:
> |>>
> |>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Michael Minutillo
> |>>  wrote:
> |>>>
> |>>> If you're in .NET 4.0 land then I'd do something similar to this:
> |>>> public string ReplaceTokens(string src) { /* ... */ }
> |>>> File.WriteAllLines(outputFileName,
> |>>> File.ReadLines(inputFileName).Select(ReplaceTokens));
> |>>> The ReadLines call (new to .NET 4.0) reads one line at a time and
> |>>> returns it as you iterate over it so in theory you don't need to
> |>>> have the whole file in memory. Don't use the ReadAllLines method on
> |>>> a 750MB file which DOES read the whole thing in before you start.
> |>>>
> |>>
> |>>
> |>> Is that a real problem given physical RAM these days?  If you're
> |>> going to write multiple outputs from the one template file of 750
> |>> it's going to rapidly get more efficient to have the template in-ram.
> Wait a
> |moment.
> |>>  You don't work for Readers Digest, do you?  I have no desire
> |>> whatever to make them more efficient.
> |>> --
> |>> Meski
> |>>
> |>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> |>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
> |>
> |>
>
>

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Michael Minutillo
 wrote:
> You could host Razor but I'm not sure how it will handle a template so
> large.
> http://www.west-wind.com/weblog/posts/864461.aspx
> Or possibly you could use NVelocity
> http://csharp-source.net/open-source/template-engines/nvelocity
> Or StringTemplate
> http://www.stringtemplate.org/
> Or Spark
> http://sparkviewengine.com/
> If you're just replacing string tokens with precomputed string values
> though, I'd probably just do it one line at a time. Id guess that most of
> these template engines are designed to load the template into memory and
> turn it into a method that spits out the text given some kind of context
> (the way T4 does it [Preprocessed T4 template is another way to go if you
> don't mind being all in memory]).
>

Thanks Michael I'll hava look into these.

> --
> Michael M. Minutillo
> Indiscriminate Information Sponge
> Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Michael Minutillo
>>  wrote:
>> > Well, if the template size isn't going change and this is the only app
>> > running on the machine then so be it. Chances are good that neither of
>> > those
>> > things is true. I'd still err on the side of having a single line memory
>> > at
>> > a time because it's not like the optimization is making it any harder to
>> > read or understand.
>> >
>>
>> Yup template file will mostly likely not change and app will always
>> run locally as an exe. This sort of optimisation you suggested seems
>> good enough to use as it is fairly simple.
>>
>> ...But I was kinda questioning the design of doing things this way at
>> all. It seems like what I want is a dynamic "page" (like a webform)
>> that can run and spit out text just like an asp page does.so the
>> placeholders would really be <%= %> tags. Is something like this an
>> option? Can I somehow run an asp.net page locally? Will this cause
>> performance problems for 750megs of data which is around 70 pages? Am
>> I going completely crazy? :-)
>>
>>
>> > Michael M. Minutillo
>> > Indiscriminate Information Sponge
>> > Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:30 AM, mike smith  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Michael Minutillo
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If you're in .NET 4.0 land then I'd do something similar to this:
>> >>> public string ReplaceTokens(string src) { /* ... */ }
>> >>> File.WriteAllLines(outputFileName,
>> >>> File.ReadLines(inputFileName).Select(ReplaceTokens));
>> >>> The ReadLines call (new to .NET 4.0) reads one line at a time and
>> >>> returns
>> >>> it as you iterate over it so in theory you don't need to have the
>> >>> whole file
>> >>> in memory. Don't use the ReadAllLines method on a 750MB file which
>> >>> DOES read
>> >>> the whole thing in before you start.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Is that a real problem given physical RAM these days?  If you're going
>> >> to
>> >> write multiple outputs from the one template file of 750 it's going to
>> >> rapidly get more efficient to have the template in-ram.   Wait a
>> >> moment.
>> >>  You don't work for Readers Digest, do you?  I have no desire whatever
>> >> to
>> >> make them more efficient.
>> >> --
>> >> Meski
>> >>
>> >> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
>> >> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: Placeholders in large text file

[Bec Carter]

G'day Arjang!

It's a config file for a legacy system which I have no control over.
As a favour to a friend I created a simple winforms UI allowing them
to enter some values, do some calculations and then insert them into
the file at particular positions.

I ended up going with Michael Minutillo's .NET 4 suggestion- that
worked well. I will be looking into T4 and the other stuff Michael
mentioned also since that stuff sounds pretty cool.

Cheers.
Bec

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Arjang Assadi  wrote:
> What is the real problem that a solution to it consists of  putting
> certain values (after computing them) in very lage file?
>
> Need more info for a meaningfull solutions.
>
> Regards
>
> Arjang
>
>
>> various spots in a very large text file
>
> On 7 February 2011 10:21, Bec Carter  wrote:
>> Good mornin' all!
>>
>> I've a requirement to put certain values (after computing them) in
>> various spots in a very large text file. So basically the starting
>> text file can have placeholders where these computed values will end
>> up- like a template. Then my code will compute some values based on
>> user input and i need to fill in the placeholders.
>> Is there a better way to do this besides a simple string replace?
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Bec
>>
>

Which IoC container should I use?

[Bec Carter]

G'Day,

What IoC containers do you all recommend? There are so many around!

Cheers,
Bec

Re: Which IoC container should I use?

[Bec Carter]

Thanks for all responses- I will check them out.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Michael Minutillo
 wrote:
> I guess it's still early in the day but I'm surprised not to see any
> StructureMap/Windsor peeps throwing their hats in the ring.
> Back to the original point, most of the containers will provide many of the
> same capabilities but in slightly different ways. At the end of the day
> there are only so many ways you can build a dictionary of object factories
> (which is sort of all an IoC container is). Most of the time the differences
> are in how you register components with the container and some of these
> features can get quite advanced so by the time you need those, you've
> already made your choice.
> If you have the time, the best thing for you to do is to build a very small
> app representative of the way you'll be doing things and then try each of
> the containers out to see how they "feel".
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Joseph Cooney 
> wrote:
>>
>> I <3 Autofac.
>>
>> On 21/02/2011, at 10:23 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>>
>> > G'Day,
>> >
>> > What IoC containers do you all recommend? There are so many around!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Bec
>
>

[OT] Chrome command line to open multiple tabs

[Bec Carter]

G'Day all!

Anybody know if it's possible to call Chrome from the command line and
have it open multiple tabs which I specify?

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] Chrome command line to open multiple tabs

[Bec Carter]

lol I swear I tried this before and it didn't work :-) Thanks

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Wallace Turner
 wrote:
> I just tried this, and it worked :)
>
> C:\Users\wal\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
> www.microsoft.com www.iinet.net.au
>
> ie, pass the URL's as args
>
> On 18/03/2011 7:24 AM, Bec Carter wrote:
>>
>> G'Day all!
>>
>> Anybody know if it's possible to call Chrome from the command line and
>> have it open multiple tabs which I specify?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bec
>>
>
>

[OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

[Bec Carter]

Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up
lots on this list.

I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and
demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and
12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure.

Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any recommendations?

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT]Web hosting with lots of disk space

[Bec Carter]

G'day all!

Sorry to hijack this thread but my question is related.

1) I am working on a site with a sql server express backend. What
options do I have for hosting such a thing? I know lots of hosting
providers offer SQL Server full (not express) but Im wondering what
restrictions they got when it comes to size. I had a look at
StudioCoast and some others but the space they offer seems small like
40gb.

2) what about users uploading files and storing them to disk? Do
hosters even let apps upload files and store them on disk or will they
need to go into the database? and do they enforce size limits?

Cheers, Bec


On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea
 wrote:
> I'm also on www.web24.com.au with my own physical servers (2x150Gb in Mirror
> + 1x 450Gb).
> Once you get to 80-100Gb of data you kind of expect or hope to get some
> income so $1000 or $2000 a year is not that much anymore.
> Plus in that moment if you have the traffic you'll start getting charges
> If you want just images/videos and they are all public drop them behind
> Amazon and run your site somewhere else.
> If you want to be ready to fly go Azure (they also have a CDN which is not
> expensive) or Rackspace virtual servers or GoGrid.
> If you don't care about location I *highly* recommend Giga Hosting:
> http://www.giga-hosting.biz/?show=server
> e149/month for a server with 6x3.2Gb i7 + 80Gb SSD for primary site and 2Tb
> HDD for storage + 100Mbp/s unlimited traffic (via 2x10Gb/s connections).
> It's fast. It's bloody fast. And cheap. That's like $200/month.
> We used to run Facebook games hosted by these guys (we had a custom
> configuration with 10,000rpm Velocity drives) and man it was delivering.
> Super high spikes of traffic and db writes like I've never seen before.
> Corneliu.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Mark Jarzebowski  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> domaincentral.com (US servers Aust company)
>>
>> crazydomains.com.au (Australian servers)
>>
>> Both offer "unlimited" disk space in a shared hosting environment with
>> ASP.NET and SQL Sever support.
>>
>> I use both for a range of applications and while I would not count on
>> using 1000Tb of space they both work reasonably well for smallish apps (<200
>> users). Both are very cheap (less than $200pa).
>>
>> If you need industrail strength hosting with lost of disk space try
>> esxhosting.com.au
>> They offer windows 2008 VPS with remote desktop control and the ability to
>> expand to huge amounts of disk space. One of my apps is projected to grow to
>> 10Tb of sapce and they can handle that with ease on thier SANs.
>>
>> I use esxhosting and it works very well. Prices are very competitive with
>> other VPS providers (Azure and Amazon also) and the servers are based
>> in Sydney. you can expad and contract your space (and cost) very quickly and
>> easily.
>>
>> I also use www.web24.com.au who can provide huge amounts of disk and
>> server resources from their Melbourne data centre. However beyond about 80Gb
>> of space you need to lease physical servers which require substantial
>> committment and $$$. But you get a high quality service.
>>
>> Another important consideration is the financial strength of your hosting
>> provider. What hasppens to you business if they go broke or out of business.
>> In this area I think Azure and Amazon (and Google) win hands down.
>>
>> Regards . Mark Jarzebowski
>> Director Software Engineering
>> Business Model Systems (Victoria) Pty Ltd
>> Kew Victoria
>> www.bms.com.au
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>>>
>>> What web hosting company do you guys know of that offer lots of disk
>>> space? I haven't been able to find any more than 10GB. Cheers
>
>

Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

[Bec Carter]

Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you
think of them?
I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and
*maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet
system requirements for vs express versions.


On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Maw  wrote:
> Very true.
>
> I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys laughed at
> me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's power supply was
> bigger than his computer!
>
> Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it.
>
> On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Price  wrote:
>>
>> 3.5Kg is light!!
>>
>> The m1730 was 4.83 kg. The power supply: 1.46 kg
>>
>> I remember the ooohs and ahhs as you pull out the m1730 from your bag.
>> Then the peels of laughter as you pull out the power supply and drop that
>> mother on the desk. (watch your fingers!)
>>
>> Grant can back me up on this. :)
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Wallace Turner 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No wonder you are *sighing* lugging around 3.5kg!
>>>
>>> On 5/04/2011 10:29 PM, Stephen Price wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend just pointed out Dell have "new XPS" machines on their web site.
>>> Spec'd one up - unfortunately I couldn't justify another laptop right now
>>> so didn't click buy. :(
>>> New XPS 17" looks like a nice machine. i7 4C/8T + 8Gb ram (can go up to
>>> 12Gb), 2 drives (can even config with dual 256Gb SSD's but aftermarket is
>>> cheaper) and 1920x1080 screen (can get with 3D but I think that's silly for
>>> a laptop. Maybe when you don't need glasses for em) and 3GB NVIDIA® GeForce®
>>> GT 555M With Optimus.
>>> All that for $3200ish. That's $1000 less than I paid for my m1730 years
>>> ago. Way thinner too!
>>>
>>> 2 x usb 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0 and 1 eSata.
>>>
>>> Width: 16.3" (414.9mm)
>>> Height: 1.3" (32.8mm) front . 1.5" (38.5mm) back
>>> Depth: 11.3" (287.3mm)
>>> Weight: Starting at 3.36kg / 7.41lbs (with 6-cell battery); 3.53kg/
>>> 7.79lbs (wtih 9-cell battery)
>>>
>>> *sighs*
>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Bec Carter 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Apologies for asking about laptops once again, I know this comes up
>>>> lots on this list.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for a small laptop for occasional .net development and
>>>> demonstrations of web apps mostly, something light and between 10 and
>>>> 12 inches, maybe 13 inches not sure.
>>>>
>>>> Alienware M11x is one that has the grunt but its pricey. Any
>>>> recommendations?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bec
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos

[Bec Carter]

Hmm yes battery life would be important to me. The mini dell claims
over 7 hours battery life though I doubt that is the case when doing
anything but running the screensaver :-)

Vostro sounds good but for the size. Thanks for the info I'll keep looking

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Wallace Turner  wrote:
> Bec, disclaimer, the Vostro has guts (for its weight/price) but its battery
> life is *poor*.
>
> I have used it at work connected to a 23" HD monitor with no issues but on a
> plane trip you'll be lucky to get 2hrs of dev work in.
>
> mostly i use it plugged in so is not an issue for me personally.
>
> On 4/05/2011 7:42 PM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
>>
>> Most of the "mini" machines have a pretty cramped keyboard. I would not
>> use it for dev work (or any serious typing). The screen resolution tends to
>> be low as well.
>>
>> Powering an external, high res monitor can be painful, depending on what
>> sort of graphics chip it has.
>>
>> For skype/web browsing etc, no problems using one of these things. For
>> more serious work, I'd get something a bit larger with a bit more oomph. The
>> Vostro V13 mentioned earlier is a pretty good tradeoff. All depends on your
>> budget
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ken
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
>> On Behalf Of Bec Carter
>> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2011 7:23 PM
>> To: ozDotNet
>> Subject: Re: [OT] Lightweight laptop for dev and demos
>>
>> Anybody here got a notebook mini? Dell mini 10 or HP 10? What do you think
>> of them?
>> I need something with a web cam for Skype, wireless card obviously and
>> *maybe* a tiny bit of dev here and there - these minis seem to meet system
>> requirements for vs express versions.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Grant Maw  wrote:
>>>
>>> Very true.
>>>
>>> I took mine on a site visit one day and one of their mobile guys
>>> laughed at me, and informed the rest of the group that my M1730's
>>> power supply was bigger than his computer!
>>>
>>> Our power bill has dropped $20 since I stopped using it.
>>>
>>> On 6 April 2011 11:26, Stephen Price  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 3.5Kg is light!!
>>>>
>>
>
>

[OT] Amazon book orders

[Bec Carter]

I want to order a book from Amazon, when I purchase the paperback does
that mean the Kindle version automatically becomes available to me
also? Or are they two different items and need to be purchased
separately? Can't find this info on the website

Re: [OT] Moving to web mail

[Bec Carter]

G'Day Greg,

David Connors helped me out a while back to move some friends over to
free version Google Apps and they are loving it. The documentation was
great and easy to follow.   I used the free tool to import the stuff
from PST but had issues with attachments. I read somewhere the paid
version has a better tool but never used it so can't be sure. You can
also just pump the mail directly from the mail server into gmail with
the paid version.

Bec

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
> Folks, I recently suffered a few events which are hinting that perhaps I
> should move from using a desktop mail client (Outlook 2007 in my case) to
> web mail such as Google Mail. Yesterday morning my pst file was corrupted
> and I wasted 45 minutes finding scanpst.exe (I forgot it’s name) and running
> it over my 200MB file. Luckily it came good. Over the last few months I’ve
> helped friends migrate to new machines, and in each case the worst thing was
> the mail. One person didn’t have a mail client on Win7, another blew the
> size when migrating from Outlook Express to Outlook, another had a pst that
> wouldn’t export. This suffering would have not happened if these people had
> web mail accounts.
>
>
>
> I had a look at Google mail and I can see that there is a feature to “add
> account” and it will poll my existing pop3 accounts. This leaves me
> wondering about the following issues:
>
>
>
> · Security – How secure is Google mail? I have no idea how Google
> isolate or handle user’s email. Where is it? Who can access it? Is it
> encrypted? And so on... (maybe it’s in their sign-up fine print)
>
> · Import – Can I import my pst into Google mail? A quick web search
> hints that it’s possible.
>
> · Persistence – Can I be sure that my web mail will remain
> accessible to me? Lord forbid that Google goes broke or drops it’s web mail
> service.
>
> · Search – Outlook has a pretty good search facility, so how good is
> the Google mail one?
>
> · Advertising – Targeted ads to me ... Yeechhh! As if I don’t get
> enough already on bus stops, TV, radio, food packets, web pages, sky
> writing, highway billboards, etc.
>
>
>
> These are the first issues that popped into my head. Has anyone else made
> the move to Google mail for serious use and found it okay? Any things to
> beware of?
>
>
>
> Perhaps there are competitors to Google mail I haven’t considered?
>
>
>
> I actually have a Google email account, but it’s barely been used ever.
>
>
>
> Greg

[OT] Backups

[Bec Carter]

All this talk of SSDs and HDDs failing has got me a little scared to
lose my data. I just have one main folder with everything in there on
my laptop and copy this thing to my USB drive as backup - I manually
do this i'm starting to realise this is not enough.

How do you all do your backups?

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] Backups

[Bec Carter]

Oops I forgot to say I don't want to backup to the cloud. I won't
always have net access anyways.
I shall look into Windows Home Server. Thanks

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> Windows Home Server for me.
>
> There's also a thread on cloud backup that you might want to read :)
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bec Carter
> Sent: Friday, 3 June 2011 2:06 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: [OT] Backups
>
> All this talk of SSDs and HDDs failing has got me a little scared to lose my 
> data. I just have one main folder with everything in there on my laptop and 
> copy this thing to my USB drive as backup - I manually do this i'm 
> starting to realise this is not enough.
>
> How do you all do your backups?
>
> Cheers
> Bec
>

[OT] MS security essentials

[Bec Carter]

So I installed this a few months ago on Vista and everything looked
fine. Then over the weekend I moved some folders from
C:\Users\Bec\Folder1 and onto my desktop and suddenly ms security
essentials found all these infected files. The files were things I
didn't need anyway so I just had it kill them.
Can anyone explain why this would happen? Why would security
essentials not detect problem in the old location?

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] MS security essentials

[Bec Carter]

Thank you both, sounds reasonable. I'm more paranoid since I removed AVG :-)

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
> Yes, on installing MSE (abandoning AVG after 3-4 years) I did a quick scan
> as recommended, but soon after (next night?) I scanned a few Tb of stuff and
> it located a couple of things. Since then it has been unobtrusive and I
> assume is keeping me safe. I'm happy with it.
> Noonie's explanation sounds reasonable.
> 
> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of noonie
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:50 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: [OT] MS security essentials
>
> Bec,
>
> It could be a timing issue. When you got the files, in the first
> place, the threat was not known to your AV but later updates added the
> signature to the scanner. If you haven't touched the files in the
> intervening period then your AV wouldn't necessarily be prompted to
> scan them again.
>
> >From memory, Microsoft Security Essentials defaults to a Quick Scan,
> for your daily or weekly scan, and this type of scan "...scans the
> folders where malware is most commonly found." I suspect that the
> Desktop is one of those folders and moving the files prompted MSE to
> have another look at them.
>
> --
> Regards,
> noonie
>
>
> On 12 July 2011 13:49, Bec Carter  wrote:
>> So I installed this a few months ago on Vista and everything looked
>> fine. Then over the weekend I moved some folders from
>> C:\Users\Bec\Folder1 and onto my desktop and suddenly ms security
>> essentials found all these infected files. The files were things I
>> didn't need anyway so I just had it kill them.
>> Can anyone explain why this would happen? Why would security
>> essentials not detect problem in the old location?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bec
>>
>
>

[OT] 10-11 inch notebook

[Bec Carter]

G'day

I'm after a 10-11 inch netbook/notebook which I will probably only use
for internet, occasionally working on word or excel and of course I
need a keyboard which is why a tablet won't do. I want something cheap
so no ultrabooks or anything like that..

I realise most netbooks are about the same so was more after any
issues people here have had with them and which ones to avoid if any.

Cheers
Bec

Re: [OT] 10-11 inch notebook

[Bec Carter]

Thanks though I'm not into the tablet thing. The only tablet I've seen
worth even considering is the iPad and that costs too much for me. I'm
just after a cheap netbook $200-$400 max.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:33 AM, mike smith  wrote:
> Tablet + bluetooth keyboard?
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Bec Carter  wrote:
>> G'day
>>
>> I'm after a 10-11 inch netbook/notebook which I will probably only use
>> for internet, occasionally working on word or excel and of course I
>> need a keyboard which is why a tablet won't do. I want something cheap
>> so no ultrabooks or anything like that..
>>
>> I realise most netbooks are about the same so was more after any
>> issues people here have had with them and which ones to avoid if any.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bec
>
>
>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Re: [OT] 10-11 inch notebook

[Bec Carter]

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:40 PM, mike smith  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Wallace Turner  
> wrote:
>> i own one of these:
>> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ultraslim-Dell-Vostro-Laptop-13-3-V13-V130-4GB-DDR3-3G-WWAN-/180790486717?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item2a17f3e6bd#ht_5764wt_1163
>> 
>>
>> sure, its getting bigger (13.3inch) but it weights 1.6kg and is slim and
>> powerful enough to run Visual Studio okay, $495 is good too i definitly paid
>> more than that, perhaps $799 from memory.
>>
>> i know the OP said just word/excel but this runs all them better than a
>> notebook as well as websites and video etc etc, a fair enough trade-off (for
>> me) given the slightly extra size.
>>
>
> Just where do you stop?  for a bit more, you can get a laptop with i7
> and 16g ram :)  (Macbook, or the glass HP ultra) (not sure if the HP
> is upsizable to i7)
>

Exactly im more lost now than before I posted this question haha

>
> --
> Meski
>
>  http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv
>
> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure,
> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills

Decrypting web.config file on different machine

[Bec Carter]

Hi, I've been handed an older Asp.Net application with encrypted
sections in the web.config. The machine the file was encrypted on no
longer exists. Is there any way to decrypt it?

Cheers
Bec

Re: Decrypting web.config file on different machine

[Bec Carter]

Damn :(  plus no source code which means Reflector and Dr Who. I
should have stayed away from the govt, they have no source but they
have Reflector vspro.. go figure

On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
> Can someone confirm that ASP.NET config files are usually encrypted with the
> machine key? Is that the only option? (something about /Machine DPAPI). If
> so, then your only hope is to send the file to the NSA or Dr Who for
> recovery -- Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Bec Carter
> Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:48
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Decrypting web.config file on different machine
>
> Hi, I've been handed an older Asp.Net application with encrypted
> sections in the web.config. The machine the file was encrypted on no
> longer exists. Is there any way to decrypt it?
>
> Cheers
> Bec
>

Re: Decrypting web.config file on different machine

[Bec Carter]

Unfortunately they've said they have nothing- the app hasn't been
touched since 2008 and before they moved everything over from xp to
windows 7. Should be fun!  Thanks anyway fellas


On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> Do they have a backup of the non-existent machine? If the backup tapes still 
> exist, then maybe there's still hope.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bec Carter
> Sent: Friday, 20 January 2012 3:30 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: Decrypting web.config file on different machine
>
> Damn :(  plus no source code which means Reflector and Dr Who. I should have 
> stayed away from the govt, they have no source but they have Reflector 
> vspro.. go figure
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>> Can someone confirm that ASP.NET config files are usually encrypted
>> with the machine key? Is that the only option? (something about
>> /Machine DPAPI). If so, then your only hope is to send the file to the
>> NSA or Dr Who for recovery -- Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
>> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
>> On Behalf Of Bec Carter
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:48
>> To: ozDotNet
>> Subject: Decrypting web.config file on different machine
>>
>> Hi, I've been handed an older Asp.Net application with encrypted
>> sections in the web.config. The machine the file was encrypted on no
>> longer exists. Is there any way to decrypt it?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Bec
>>

Re: [OT] Sample projects for 'testing' Reaction Time

[Bec Carter]

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Les Hughes  wrote:
> Ian Thomas wrote:
>>
>>
>> An OT “project” of mine.
>>
>> A friend has Parkinson’s disease, and is getting the jitters. He was a
>> senior manager in a major IT corporation (he is not a programmer, did some
>> FORTRAN for his MSc, years ago – but he’s smart enough). About a year ago
>> wrote for himself a simple reaction time (mouse response to some cue
>> appearing on screen) in MS Excel (VBA), but he would like to do some .NET
>> programming, and also write something more appropriate for his condition.
>>
>> I have seen a few things on CodeProject that might be adaptable, but most
>> are too elaborate (games, which assume super-quick reaction time but also
>> are too involved in terms of story line, graphics, etc).
>>
>> Over time, I would be grateful if anyone on the list can just post a URL
>> that I can have a look at. I’ve got him working with VS2008 Express, but
>> might need to use a more capable / more recent IDE.
>>
>> (Those of you who are aware of tests for behavioural neuroscience may know
>> that this is a reasonably involved area of research and testing, *but* is
>> also a very fertile area for internet money-raking, by individuals whose
>> ethical behaviour is similar to those advertising p3nis enlargement!)
>>
>>
>> Thanks – it would be good to get a few tips.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Ian Thomas
>> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>>
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Just an idea which came to me, not sure if it is much use (at least in the
> short term), but it seems like a game similar to tetris (maybe even a
> simpler version with only 3 or 4 shapes) might be good for testing reaction
> times. You can graph the average response time from when a shape appears to
> where it is placed, and see how it goes as the game gets faster. Obviously
> this will not give good results after one game (because reaction times will
> also depend on what shapes you have at the bottom and ability to problem
> solve), but I think the data gained over the longer term can show trends and
> averages/etc.
>
> Also maybe a game that shows you three images, where two are the same and
> one is different, and using left, down, right on the arrowpad you need to
> select the one that doesn't match. You could once again keep the data and
> graph this over the long term.

Even Pong could be used this way I guess

>
> Anyway, good luck, and I'd be interested to here any progress.
>
> --
> Les Hughes
> l...@datarev.com.au