RE: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
Ken, Different browsers different behaviours and now I know why. Different sites may be different user behaviours and I suspect I know why. Now all I have to figure out is how to make it go away because, fundamentally, that's all that users want ;-) -- noonie On 21/05/2014 3:54 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites? What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Thanks Ken, IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here, things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-) -- noonie On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy server or not. Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from the web server. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser. -- noonie On 19 May 2014 19:22, anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
Thanks Ken, IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here, things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-) -- noonie On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy server or not. Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from the web server. Cheers Ken *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser. -- noonie On 19 May 2014 19:22, anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
RE: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites? What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of noonie Sent: Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Thanks Ken, IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here, things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-) -- noonie On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy server or not. Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from the web server. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of noonie Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser. -- noonie On 19 May 2014 19:22, anthonyatsmall...@mail.commailto:anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of noonie Sent: Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
[OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
is caching enabled for the Css in the server. [OutputCaching] does the server have the permissions set to allow all in the machine / server config. Add a web config into your css directory as mentioned here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4375208/web-config-wildcards-in-location-and-authorization Davy Davy, So you want to keep data which is local, only ever going to be local, only needed locally, never accessed remotely, not WANTED to be made available outside our building, which can only WEAKEN our security by being off site, hosted offsite. BOFH: Simon Travaglia On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM, noonie neale.n...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
RE: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of noonie Sent: Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
Thanks David, I'll look into those areas to try to find where the two apps differ. -- noonie On 19 May 2014 18:27, David Rhys Jones djones...@gmail.com wrote: is caching enabled for the Css in the server. [OutputCaching] does the server have the permissions set to allow all in the machine / server config. Add a web config into your css directory as mentioned here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4375208/web-config-wildcards-in-location-and-authorization Davy Davy, So you want to keep data which is local, only ever going to be local, only needed locally, never accessed remotely, not WANTED to be made available outside our building, which can only WEAKEN our security by being off site, hosted offsite. BOFH: Simon Travaglia On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:19 AM, noonie neale.n...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser. -- noonie On 19 May 2014 19:22, anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
RE: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page
I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy server or not. Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from the web server. Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of noonie Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser. -- noonie On 19 May 2014 19:22, anthonyatsmall...@mail.commailto:anthonyatsmall...@mail.com wrote: I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of noonie Sent: Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Copy Paste from protected Web page Greetings, I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be automatically offered in one case but not in the other. Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? -- Regards, noonie
