Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Geoff Appleby]

I may be telling you to suck eggs, but have you tested with cleartype
on/off?

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, I just installed my fresh-out-of-the-box DELL U2711 LCD monitor
> which has a native resolution of 2560 x 1440. Unfortunately the screen is
> unreadable as everything looks “squashed” ... like when you shrink an image
> and lose information.
>
> ** **
>
> The DELL is on the digital and my LG is on the VGA. I’ve installed the
> latest drivers for my GeForce GT 240 video card but it makes no difference.
> The specs of the GT 
> 240say it can go 
> up to 2560 x 1600 on digital and 2048 x 1536 on VGA. I’ve
> fiddled with the monitor’s controls but there isn’t anything that looks
> helpful.
>
> ** **
>
> I just don’t know what to blame for the fault. This is my “dream monitor”
> and it’s an instant nightmare. Any ideas anyone? Do I need a better video
> card?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks, Greg
>
> ** **
>
> P.S. I stuck a photo of the problem here: (pardon the interlaced
> interference, but you can still see the squashed-up characters in Explorer)
> 
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.orthogonal.com.au/img/dellu2711-1.jpg
>
> ** **
>



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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

I have a bunch of these monitors - love them.

The bandwidth required for the native resolution is > HDMI/DVI. If you want
to run the display at the native resolution you will need to use:

1. DisplayPort
2. Dual-Link DVI card and cable

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, I just installed my fresh-out-of-the-box DELL U2711 LCD monitor
> which has a native resolution of 2560 x 1440. Unfortunately the screen is
> unreadable as everything looks “squashed” ... like when you shrink an image
> and lose information.
>
> ** **
>
> The DELL is on the digital and my LG is on the VGA. I’ve installed the
> latest drivers for my GeForce GT 240 video card but it makes no difference.
> The specs of the GT 
> 240say it can go 
> up to 2560 x 1600 on digital and 2048 x 1536 on VGA. I’ve
> fiddled with the monitor’s controls but there isn’t anything that looks
> helpful.
>
> ** **
>
> I just don’t know what to blame for the fault. This is my “dream monitor”
> and it’s an instant nightmare. Any ideas anyone? Do I need a better video
> card?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks, Greg
>
> ** **
>
> P.S. I stuck a photo of the problem here: (pardon the interlaced
> interference, but you can still see the squashed-up characters in Explorer)
> 
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.orthogonal.com.au/img/dellu2711-1.jpg
>
> ** **
>



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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Ian Thomas]

Great resolution. 

Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? 

btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden's thread 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:

> ** ** **
>
> Great resolution. 
>
> Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? 
>
> btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread 
>  --
>
> **Ian Thomas**
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>



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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Kean]

Wow – the first time in a long time that I’ve seen Australia better priced than 
the USA ($1000) for these things.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
Great resolution.
Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy?
btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia



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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Ian Thomas]

Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A?

I've just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen.
build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I'm sure
- but it does alert one about possible 'mechanical' problems, independent of
the panels and electronics. 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

  _  

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

 

Wow - the first time in a long time that I've seen Australia better priced
than the USA ($1000) for these things.

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

 

Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:

Great resolution. 

Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? 

btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden's thread 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia





 

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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

I have two and a colleague has two with another on order at the moment -
can't fault them at all from the 4 units we have at the moment + one more
to come.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:

> ** ** ** **
>
> Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A?
>
> I’ve just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen.
> build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I’m
> sure – but it does alert one about possible ‘mechanical’ problems,
> independent of the panels and electronics. 
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> **Ian Thomas**
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>   --
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> ** **
>
> Wow – the first time in a long time that I’ve seen **Australia** better
> priced than the USA ($1000) for these things.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> ** **
>
> Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas 
> wrote:
>
> Great resolution. 
>
> Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? 
>
> btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread 
>  --
>
> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>
>
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
> -- 
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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Kean]

I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second one (the 
first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased this end of 
last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:59 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A?
I've just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen. build 
quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I'm sure - but it 
does alert one about possible 'mechanical' problems, independent of the panels 
and electronics.



Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]>
 On Behalf Of David Kean
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

Wow - the first time in a long time that I've seen Australia better priced than 
the USA ($1000) for these things.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]<mailto:[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]>
 On Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@iinet.net.au>> wrote:
Great resolution.
Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy?
btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden's thread

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia



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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

U3011 is $1600 bucks which means probably 1400 or less through your account
rep. I would love them but it starts getting a bit exe when you're putting
them at work, home, and remote customer sites where you work. :)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:07 PM, David Kean wrote:

>  I purchased the HP ZR30w – lovely monitor, although I am on the second
> one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only purchased
> this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Ian Thomas
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:59 PM
>
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
>  ** **
>
> Maybe better quality shipments in the US of A?
>
> I’ve just looked at the dell oz website, and the 5 reviews of the screen.
> build quality is criticized (2 people). Not a good sample of sales, I’m
> sure – but it does alert one about possible ‘mechanical’ problems,
> independent of the panels and electronics. 
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> **Ian Thomas**
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>   --
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Kean
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:48 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> ** **
>
> Wow – the first time in a long time that I’ve seen Australia better priced
> than the USA ($1000) for these things.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com
> [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> ** **
>
> Hovers around the 700 mark +/- 50
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ian Thomas 
> wrote:
>
> Great resolution. 
>
> Greg, what price does Dell sell this monitor, as single item buy? 
>
> btw, you have hijacked Peter Madden’s thread 
>  --
>
> Ian Thomas
> Victoria Park, Western Australia
>
>
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Les Hughes]

David Kean wrote:


I purchased the HP ZR30w – lovely monitor, although I am on the second 
one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only 
purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.



Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI:

US$849 
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&sku=224-8284&redirect=1



AU$719

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&sku=210-31399&~ck=bncat&~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk:


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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Kean]

Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around getting 
another 2...

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Les Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

David Kean wrote:
>
> I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second 
> one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only 
> purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
>
Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI:

US$849
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&sku=224-8284&redirect=1


AU$719

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&sku=210-31399&~ck=bncat&~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk:


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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Stephen Price]

It's nice to finally see some monitors like this on the market. I've got a
30" Samsung at home 2560x1600 and at work I've got 2 x 17" monitors (plus
the laptop screen). Had monitors on order since I started here 3 months ago
and still don't have them. Internal ordering nightmare. Tempted to go and
buy one of these for myself to use at work. Sick of all those crappy
resolution monitors that do max height of 1080p. Don't want!

The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do
dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output. Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez.
its a bandwidth thing of the graphics card. Might be the issue you are
getting Greg. What rez is it actually giving you? Is it the max of the
monitor, or the max of the graphics card? If its not the native rez of the
monitor then it will look crap.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean wrote:

> Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around
> getting another 2...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Les Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> David Kean wrote:
> >
> > I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second
> > one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only
> > purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
> >
> Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI:
>
> US$849
>
> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&sku=224-8284&redirect=1
>
>
> AU$719
>
>
> http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&sku=210-31399&~ck=bncat&~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk
> :
>
>
> --
> Les Hughes
> l...@datarev.com.au
>
>
>

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Les Hughes]

David Connors wrote:
U3011 is $1600 bucks which means probably 1400 or less through your 
account rep. I would love them but it starts getting a bit exe when 
you're putting them at work, home, and remote customer sites where you 
work. :)

Yep.

I've got 2 x 24" (1080) at one client site, and using them after the 27" 
feels like I'm programming on a mobile phone (well... not quite).


I find the 27" to be pretty darn big, and I fear that the 30" would be 
too much. Any word on that?


Stephen Price wrote:
and at work I've got 2 x 17" monitors (plus the laptop screen). Had 
monitors on order since I started here 3 months ago and still don't 
have them. Internal ordering nightmare.

ಠ_ಠ

Government?

I don't want to play a game of "first world problems" but from a 
productivity point of view over 3 months, dropping even $500 on 2 x 24" 
would make a world of difference. Getting 2 x Dell 27" would also be a 
"cheap" option.


Oh the humanity!
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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Ian Thomas]

On Behalf Of David Connors 

I have two and a colleague has two with another on order at the moment -
can't fault them at all from the 4 units we have at the moment + one more to
come. 

The complaints @ the Dell AU site were that the screen was not horizontal,
and needed to be propped with a CD cover on one side. The first complainant
thought an adjustment might be made - not so, Dell replaced it (with a used
one). 

 

  _  

Ian Thomas
Victoria Park, Western Australia

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Stephen Price wrote:

> The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do
> dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output.
>

Dual-Link DVI != Dual DVI ports also HDMI does not have the bandwidth.


> Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez. its a bandwidth thing of the
> graphics card.
>

The bandwidth limitation is the display interconnect.

Best bet for today is DisplayPort or Thunderbolt (the latter uses
DisplayPort for display signalling anyway AFAIK)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean wrote:
>
>> Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around
>> getting another 2...
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
>> On Behalf Of Les Hughes
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM
>> To: ozDotNet
>> Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>>
>> David Kean wrote:
>> >
>> > I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second
>> > one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only
>> > purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
>> >
>> Just had a quick look @ pricing, and FYI:
>>
>> US$849
>>
>> http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&sku=224-8284&redirect=1
>>
>>
>> AU$719
>>
>>
>> http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&sku=210-31399&~ck=bncat&~bk=gr:CategoryRec_Default,g:RecentPopular,rk
>> :
>>
>>
>> --
>> Les Hughes
>> l...@datarev.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>


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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Ken Schaefer]

HDMI v1.3 supports 2560x1600 IIRC – older versions are limited to 1900x1200 (or 
similar)

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:00 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Stephen Price 
mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do 
dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output.

Dual-Link DVI != Dual DVI ports also HDMI does not have the bandwidth.

Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez. its a bandwidth thing of the 
graphics card.

The bandwidth limitation is the display interconnect.

Best bet for today is DisplayPort or Thunderbolt (the latter uses DisplayPort 
for display signalling anyway AFAIK)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean 
mailto:david.k...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around getting 
another 2...

-Original Message-
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> 
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] On 
Behalf Of Les Hughes
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
David Kean wrote:
>
> I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second
> one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only
> purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
>

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Nixon]

Our company bought the monitor (U2711) from Dell's website in Australia and
we found an online discount code which took about $250 off. Monitor is
about 1.5 years old and was originally about $950 but we paid around $700
for it. Also think that RACV membership gives you a discount from DELL as
well...

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  HDMI v1.3 supports 2560x1600 IIRC – older versions are limited to
> 1900x1200 (or similar)
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 March 2012 12:00 PM
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
> The 2560xanything res monitors have to have a graphics card that can do
> dual-dvi. (or hdmi) output. 
>
> ** **
>
> Dual-Link DVI != Dual DVI ports also HDMI does not have the bandwidth.
>
>  
>
>  Otherwise you can only get the 1920x1200 rez. its a bandwidth thing of
> the graphics card. 
>
>  ** **
>
> The bandwidth limitation is the display interconnect. 
>
> ** **
>
> Best bet for today is DisplayPort or Thunderbolt (the latter uses
> DisplayPort for display signalling anyway AFAIK)
>
> ** **
>
>   On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, David Kean 
> wrote:
>
> Damn they dropped quickly. Now if I just convince the other half around
> getting another 2...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Les Hughes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:17 PM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable
>
> David Kean wrote:
> >
> > I purchased the HP ZR30w - lovely monitor, although I am on the second
> > one (the first one had a defect where it would flicker). I only
> > purchased this end of last year, but I paid over $1300US at the time.
> >
>
> 
>
>** **
>

RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Greg Keogh]

Hi Folks, sorry about replying to the wrong thread with the wrong title, but
it seems to have righted itself. Who would have thought that there are
different types of DVI cables?! Not me.

 

I just got home after 6 hours and found the replies. I found this Harris
item to be a surprising bargain, even cheaper than DELL:
http://www.ht.com.au/part/Y3355-Dell-UltraSharp-U2711-LCD-monitor-27/detail.
hts

 

Stephen has my real dream monitor, the DELL 30" with 2560 x 1600 res (do you
have it for graphics work as well?). I sat in front of one for a few minutes
last year and was gobsmacked by the lovely experience, but they're still
around the $1600AU range. I think getting 2560 x 1440 on the 27" is pretty
good, and I'm really enjoying it. It's so big I don't even need to maximize
VS2010 when I'm working, and I find I'm using the second monitor less. I
find that looking over at a second monitor too often is quite irritating, so
I love having more in front of me.

 

I have the DELL and LG 27 inch monitors side-by-side and I can see that the
colours are much richer on the DELL and the extra pixels create a razor
sharp impression. It has a lovely smooth tilt mechanism too.

 

Maybe this will make programming an enjoyable experience again (for a while
;-)

 

Cheers, Greg

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  HDMI v1.3 supports 2560x1600 IIRC – older versions are limited to
> 1900x1200 (or similar)
>

You are indeed correct. There are some crazy resolutions supported in 1.4
4096×2160! (but only at 24 hz)

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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Burstin]

Today from DELL they are $719, so cheaper than HT, but this deal ends
today. I'm ordering one as soon as I get home and make sure that I have
enough room :)



On 15 March 2012 17:14, Greg Keogh  wrote:

>  I found this Harris item to be a surprising bargain, even cheaper than
> DELL:
> http://www.ht.com.au/part/Y3355-Dell-UltraSharp-U2711-LCD-monitor-27/detail.hts
>

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[David Connors]

Another thing about the U series ultra sharps - if the 27inch monitor is
out of the range of anyone interested, their 23 inch equivalent is damned
cheap. We specified 115 of them for a client 240 each (the client paid well
under 200 given the qty).

You could also make a damned tidy work space with three of the 23 inch ones
and this:
http://snpi.dell.com/snp/images/products/large/en-au~A4335091/A4335091r1.jpg

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, David Burstin wrote:

> Today from DELL they are $719, so cheaper than HT, but this deal ends
> today. I'm ordering one as soon as I get home and make sure that I have
> enough room :)
>
>
>
> On 15 March 2012 17:14, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>>  I found this Harris item to be a surprising bargain, even cheaper than
>> DELL:
>> http://www.ht.com.au/part/Y3355-Dell-UltraSharp-U2711-LCD-monitor-27/detail.hts
>>
>
>


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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Stephen Price]

I'm about to click the buy, then saw your email...
checked the price and Dell have theirs for $718.99 due to $180 off when
buying online. 20% off for 48 hours, deal ends today.  (That link shows it
for $799)

Both have the 3 years warranty which you can increase to 5 with Dell (I'm
not going to it's another $180)

Yes, the 30" is awesome. The Dell is a slightly better model than the
Samsung due to it having HDMI input, Samsung monitor doesn't.
I've noticed a flickering lately on my Samsung at home. Perhaps I should
buy the Dell 30" instead, and then put the Samsung at work? Hmm... Nah...
its almost double the price. I'll upgrade it if it dies...

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Hi Folks, sorry about replying to the wrong thread with the wrong title,
> but it seems to have righted itself. Who would have thought that there are
> different types of DVI cables?! Not me.
>
> ** **
>
> I just got home after 6 hours and found the replies. I found this Harris
> item to be a surprising bargain, even cheaper than DELL:
> http://www.ht.com.au/part/Y3355-Dell-UltraSharp-U2711-LCD-monitor-27/detail.hts
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Stephen has my real dream monitor, the DELL 30" with 2560 x 1600 res (do
> you have it for graphics work as well?). I sat in front of one for a few
> minutes last year and was gobsmacked by the lovely experience, but they’re
> still around the $1600AU range. I think getting 2560 x 1440 on the 27" is
> pretty good, and I’m really enjoying it. It’s so big I don’t even need to
> maximize VS2010 when I’m working, and I find I’m using the second monitor
> less. I find that looking over at a second monitor too often is quite
> irritating, so I love having more in front of me.
>
> ** **
>
> I have the DELL and LG 27 inch monitors side-by-side and I can see that
> the colours are much richer on the DELL and the extra pixels create a razor
> sharp impression. It has a lovely smooth tilt mechanism too.
>
> ** **
>
> Maybe this will make programming an enjoyable experience again (for a
> while ;-)
>
> ** **
>
> Cheers, Greg
>

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[mike smith]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, David Connors  wrote:
> Another thing about the U series ultra sharps - if the 27inch monitor is out
> of the range of anyone interested, their 23 inch equivalent is damned cheap.
> We specified 115 of them for a client 240 each (the client paid well under
> 200 given the qty).

wall TV.

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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable

[Greg Keogh]

.Sick of all those crappy resolution monitors that do max height of 1080p.
Don't want!

 

Join the club. For a couple of years I had a BENQ 24" 1920 x 1080 monitor,
but then a local shop had a huge discount on the LG 27" so I rushed down to
get one. When I get home I wonder why everything looks a bit "grainy" and I
realise that I've simply bought a bigger screen with the same 1920 x 1080
resolution and woeful 1080 height. So whoopee! All I have is bigger pixels.
I stupidly didn't do enough research before buying.

 

Last week I was looking everywhere for a 1920 x 1200 screen for some extra
height, but normal shops don't carry them and I could only find DELL and HP
available for web ordering. In the end I gave up and decided on the U2711.
The 1080 height is a stupid limited standard, which I suppose is only
popular because people recognise it as being HD movie height.

 

Greg

 

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[Greg Keogh]

>Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the monitor to 
>windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets etc. 
>DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display (until 
>we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon).

 

How can I use “Display Port”? I read the Wikipedia article on it, but I’ve no 
idea what I can do to take advantage of it -- Greg 

Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[David Connors]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> >Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the
> monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets
> etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display
> (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon).
>
> ** **
>
> How can I use “Display Port”? I read the Wikipedia article on it, but I’ve
> no idea what I can do to take advantage of it -- Greg 
>

It is just another interconnect standard. Looks very close to HDMI but with
three square corners and one bevelled one as opposed to two square corners
and two bevelled ones. There is a display port socket on the bottom of your
U2711 if you look.

If you already have the dual-link DVI cables in and working - there is no
benefit for you unless you want to use the audio ports on the monitor
(which can be a pain in the proverbial to get going depending on what your
GPU drivers decide to do re presenting it to Windows).

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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[mike smith]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM, David Connors  wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>
>> >Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the
>> > monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets
>> > etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display
>> > (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon).
>>
>>
>>
>> How can I use “Display Port”? I read the Wikipedia article on it, but I’ve
>> no idea what I can do to take advantage of it -- Greg
>
>
> It is just another interconnect standard. Looks very close to HDMI but with
> three square corners and one bevelled one as opposed to two square corners
> and two bevelled ones. There is a display port socket on the bottom of your
> U2711 if you look.
>
> If you already have the dual-link DVI cables in and working - there is no
> benefit for you unless you want to use the audio ports on the monitor (which
> can be a pain in the proverbial to get going depending on what your GPU
> drivers decide to do re presenting it to Windows).

IMO an improved connector over DVI, in that it doesn't require doing
up fiddly screws.  Thunderbolt cable & connector is even easier. (so
small, thin and flexible)


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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[Stephen Price]

Hmm... ok, so my new monitor has arrived here at work. Unboxed it, giggling
like a little girl the whole time.
Plugged it into the DisplayPort on my port replicator and best resolution I
can get is 1920x1440 I think it was.
Tried it on the DVI port and thats even lower. 1920 x 1080.

Sure its way better than the two 17" monitors I was using. (which I managed
to get working, all 4 screens. lol 3 monitors and the laptop screen.)

Now if I can get to this magical 2560x1440 resolution I'll be in bliss. Why
doesnt the displayport give that rez? I thought it would. Is the cable only
a single displayport rather than the double that the port replicator has?
(the icon shows two plusses on it but the cable just shows a D).

Anyone have a D++ displayport cable they can look or know if theres a
difference?

thanks,
Stephen

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:48 PM, David Connors  wrote:

>  On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>>   >Use display port if you can. That presents the audio sockets on the
>> monitor to windows as audio in/out etc for your desktop speakers/headsets
>> etc. DisplayPort is the best technology available for connecting a display
>> (until we PC people get on the Thunderbolt bandwagon).
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> How can I use “Display Port”? I read the Wikipedia article on it, but
>> I’ve no idea what I can do to take advantage of it -- Greg 
>>
>
> It is just another interconnect standard. Looks very close to HDMI but
> with three square corners and one bevelled one as opposed to two square
> corners and two bevelled ones. There is a display port socket on the bottom
> of your U2711 if you look.
>
> If you already have the dual-link DVI cables in and working - there is no
> benefit for you unless you want to use the audio ports on the monitor
> (which can be a pain in the proverbial to get going depending on what your
> GPU drivers decide to do re presenting it to Windows).
>
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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[David Connors]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Stephen Price wrote:

> Hmm... ok, so my new monitor has arrived here at work. Unboxed it,
> giggling like a little girl the whole time.
> Plugged it into the DisplayPort on my port replicator and best resolution
> I can get is 1920x1440 I think it was.
> Tried it on the DVI port and thats even lower. 1920 x 1080.
>
> Sure its way better than the two 17" monitors I was using. (which I
> managed to get working, all 4 screens. lol 3 monitors and the laptop
> screen.)
>
> Now if I can get to this magical 2560x1440 resolution I'll be in bliss.
> Why doesnt the displayport give that rez? I thought it would. Is the cable
> only a single displayport rather than the double that the port replicator
> has? (the icon shows two plusses on it but the cable just shows a D).
>
> Anyone have a D++ displayport cable they can look or know if theres a
> difference?
>

What's the service tag on the lappy?

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Re: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[Stephen Price]

Fixed it!
First time a driver update has given me something as sweet as 2560x1440. :)

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:36 PM, David Connors  wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Stephen Price 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm... ok, so my new monitor has arrived here at work. Unboxed it,
>> giggling like a little girl the whole time.
>> Plugged it into the DisplayPort on my port replicator and best resolution
>> I can get is 1920x1440 I think it was.
>> Tried it on the DVI port and thats even lower. 1920 x 1080.
>>
>> Sure its way better than the two 17" monitors I was using. (which I
>> managed to get working, all 4 screens. lol 3 monitors and the laptop
>> screen.)
>>
>> Now if I can get to this magical 2560x1440 resolution I'll be in bliss.
>> Why doesnt the displayport give that rez? I thought it would. Is the cable
>> only a single displayport rather than the double that the port replicator
>> has? (the icon shows two plusses on it but the cable just shows a D).
>>
>> Anyone have a D++ displayport cable they can look or know if theres a
>> difference?
>>
>
> What's the service tag on the lappy?
>
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RE: [OT] My new monitor is unreadable (SOLVED)

[Greg Keogh]

Fixed it!

First time a driver update has given me something as sweet as 2560x1440. :)

 

Good grief, are you telling me that it was a driver update in your case to
get the 2560 x 1440 working?! That was the first thing I tried without
success before I discovered it was the DVI cable. My DELL U2711 has boosted
my productivity for sure over the last week. I very rarely maximise any
windows any more. Imagine how pissed off I was to find that DELL had a
sudden discount special $80 less than what I paid just two days after I get
mine from HT, it's like playing the stock market - Greg

 

P.S. The thing runs hot, feel the top of the screen.