Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
I guess anecdotal evidence will not suffice for this gentleman, umh! If photographic eveidence is required then you could have high speed film, slow shutter speed and while you prolly wont get a great photo, you may have some evidence in the future. I had my camera set up like this for the birth of my third daughter and did get a lot lovely though grainy photos with no flash. This was 23 yrs ago and now nobody(that I have been around)seems concerned about the flash I am interested that this is still a concern. Have we just forgotten about it? marilyn - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 3:08 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL Today a paediatric registrar told me that it was impossible for my recent client to have birthed her baby "in the caul". He was wanting photographic proof. I explained that we didn't take photos of such events because 1)it would mean using a "flash"-He couldn't see the problem , 2) we don't know in advance that it is going to happen. Does anyone have photos of this "impossible" event?cheers, MM
[ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah www.Splitart.com Try the new improved Yahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
Hi Mary, You can tell the paediatric registrar that there are photosof babies being born in the caul at: http://www.birthdiaries.com/diary/39vbirth.htm(scroll down a few photos) and http://www.midwives.net/hsh/caul.htm Hope that helps! Andrea Bilcliff - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 10:08 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL Today a paediatric registrar told me that it was impossible for my recent client to have birthed her baby "in the caul". He was wanting photographic proof. I explained that we didn't take photos of such events because 1)it would mean using a "flash"-He couldn't see the problem , 2) we don't know in advance that it is going to happen. Does anyone have photos of this "impossible" event?cheers, MM
[ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them in advance (and join before conceiving). SGIC/NRMA give $500 for midwifery similar to the hospital cover above. Many other funds have a similar small ammount of cover.1 At 9:52 +1100 24/2/04, Alphia Possamai-Inesedy wrote: Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah http://www.splitart.com/www.Splitarthttp://www.splitart.com/.com Try the new improved http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/*http://www.yahoo.com.auYahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
HBF in Western Australia refund $1400 for a homebirth or a private midwife in a public hospital. Sally Westbury -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives? I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them in advance (and join before conceiving). SGIC/NRMA give $500 for midwifery similar to the hospital cover above. Many other funds have a similar small ammount of cover.1 At 9:52 +1100 24/2/04, Alphia Possamai-Inesedy wrote: Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah http://www.splitart.com/www.Splitarthttp://www.splitart.com/.com Try the new improved http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/*http://www.yahoo.com.auYahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
[ozmidwifery] flash photography during birth
Marilyn, was this true amongst homebirthers in Seattle too? That's really interesting. JenMarilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess anecdotal evidence will not suffice for this gentleman, umh! If photographic eveidence is required then you could have high speed film, slow shutter speed and while you prolly wont get a great photo, you may have some evidence in the future. I had my camera set up like this for the birth of my third daughter and did get a lot lovely though grainy photos with no flash. This was 23 yrs ago and now nobody(that I have been around)seems concerned about the flash I am interested that this is still a concern. Have we just forgotten about it? marilyn Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
speaking about insurance, I just called our previous insurer to see if they would match Australian Unity before changing over (they pay a maximum of $500). They wouldn't because Its a lesser level of care than you would receive in hospital to have a home birth. I couldn't help myself, I actually laughed at the poor woman who had to give me this jem of health insurance wisdom. At 7:59 +0800 24/2/04, Sally Westbury wrote: HBF in Western Australia refund $1400 for a homebirth or a private midwife in a public hospital. Sally Westbury -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Bourne Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives? I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them in advance (and join before conceiving). SGIC/NRMA give $500 for midwifery similar to the hospital cover above. Many other funds have a similar small ammount of cover.1 At 9:52 +1100 24/2/04, Alphia Possamai-Inesedy wrote: Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah http://www.splitart.com/www.Splitarthttp://www.splitart.com/.com Try the new improved http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/*http://www.yahoo.com.auYahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
A few others that I've heard of... A fabulous member of MC employee of the RAAF (air force) in Vic has just negotiated to have MIPP services included in the RAAF health insurance policy (both for currently employeed former employees). I would assume that would be nationally. Not sure whether the same policy covers all military folks (ie Army, Air force, Navy, etc). My in-laws are members of the NSW teachers health insurance fund on their brochure it said it covered the fee of a midwife for a homebirth. Also, I think I remember someone mentioning that HBA provides a rebate of midwive's fees as well. Apparently it's really easy for the midwife to get a provider number... just ring up ask for it. It's a shame Medibank private (the scheme that has most members) doesn't provide any rebate for midwifery services. Hehehe, I don't really know any of this stuff first hand, so if anyone knows any differently, please fill us in! JenJo Bourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them in advance (and join before conceiving).SGIC/NRMA give $500 for midwifery similar to the hospital cover above. Many other funds have a similar small ammount of cover. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
What a sad/poor reflection of what happens in hospital birth!! I had not seen or been involved in such until I started attending Homebirths!I remember the first time wsatching inititially wondering what was happening then my first catch of a baby in the Caul being my own "now what is it I do?" Feeling the head and a hand through the bag!!Denise - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:08 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL Today a paediatric registrar told me that it was impossible for my recent client to have birthed her baby "in the caul". He was wanting photographic proof. I explained that we didn't take photos of such events because 1)it would mean using a "flash"-He couldn't see the problem , 2) we don't know in advance that it is going to happen. Does anyone have photos of this "impossible" event?cheers, MM
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
Thanks everyone - I will chase all of this up. Take care Alphia At 10:30 AM 24/02/2004, you wrote: I just sent a letter to australian unity asking what cover they would give me for a home birth. They give about $640 for a private midwife in hospital birth situation (some for prenantal, some for post and a small fee for the birth). They give $2000 for a homebirth if you organise it with them in advance (and join before conceiving). SGIC/NRMA give $500 for midwifery similar to the hospital cover above. Many other funds have a similar small ammount of cover.1 At 9:52 +1100 24/2/04, Alphia Possamai-Inesedy wrote: Jen, I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it. Take care Alphia At 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice. One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding. Best of luck, Jen Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah http://www.splitart.com/www.Splitarthttp://www.splitart.com/.com Try the new improved http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/*http://www.yahoo.com.auYahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584 -- Jo Bourne Virtual Artists Pty Ltd -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
Hehehe, the obvious question from the midwife student for you wise midwives... What DO you do?! :o) JenDenise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a sad/poor reflection of what happens in hospital birth!! I had not seen or been involved in such until I started attending Homebirths!I remember the first time wsatching inititially wondering what was happening then my first catch of a baby in the Caul being my own "now what is it I do?" Feeling the head and a hand through the bag!!Denise Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
Jen The midwives I have been with at home from whom I have learnt most therefore what I did was to leave it intact till the babies head was out - as it acts as a cushion for the mother and baby. Also based on Michle Odent's theory about waterbirth's why the baby does not breathe under the water or in the caul/membranes. = that due toPascal's (?) principle = pressure in a fluid filled container (membranes, tub ) is equal in all directions -therefore the pressure receptors on the baby's face do not prompt the baby to take a breath until itisout of water/bag of membranes. When you break it peel it down over the face firstclearing the mouth ready for that first breathe!!Denise - Original Message - From: Jen Semple To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL Hehehe, the obvious question from the midwife student for you wise midwives... What DO you do?! :o) JenDenise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a sad/poor reflection of what happens in hospital birth!! I had not seen or been involved in such until I started attending Homebirths!I remember the first time wsatching inititially wondering what was happening then my first catch of a baby in the Caul being my own "now what is it I do?" Feeling the head and a hand through the bag!!Denise Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives?
We are with Defence Health and they cover midwifery, so many pre and post natal visits and X amount for birth, cant remember the actual payout though. My understanding is that its not uncommon for the midwife to arrange the costs on paper so as to maximise pay outs. I have done the ring around of companies in SA and it makes for an interesting experience. Most had to get the book out and read it or ask a supervisor, in other words they had no idea, its an education for the staff. One company would only pay on the cost of birth if baby was born in hospital not at home. I asked how they would know, he said only if the midwife wrote that it was a homebirth. They don't understand why women even make this choice, I had to explain that homebirth wasn' t accidental it was planned a number of times. As for Indemnity Ins in relation to Health Ins paying out, the two are completely different, one covers adverse outcome, etcand the other is recovering cost of services provided. I can't see how they can descriminate, as long as the person is qualified, I bet they don't ask for proof of indemnity ins from any other provider. I believe some insurers also cover for the cost of childbirth education, we had a mix up when I claimed the birth of my last baby and found this out, its worth asking if you do. The other thing is that some companies offer little bonuses if you register with them, likea basket etc and homebirth mums should not be discriminated against for this, so ask. Cheers Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Alphia Possamai-InesedySent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 9:23To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Private Insurance companies covering independent midwives? Jen,I was not aware that this was the case - do you know which private insurance companies do this? I find it surprising considering that independent midwives are not covered by indemnity insurance. I am currently finishing a subsection of my thesis on the indemnity crisis and found your news interesting. If you could help me out with this I would grealty appreciate it.Take careAlphiaAt 03:47 AM 17/02/2004, you wrote: Some private insurance companies cover the fee of a midwife in private practice.One to one care with a midwife she's known throughout pregnancy birth is her best bet for successful breast feeding.Best of luck, Jen"Melissah Scott @ Spilt Art" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have someone who is about 18 weeks pregnant and fairly recently moved to the blue mountians (Katoomba) She is unsure of where to birth at the moment and is concidering birthing at nepean private to make use of her private health insurance. She is hoping to stay in hospital for about 5 or so days, and at nepean private her husband can stay with her. She wants to stay in for a few days because she is nervous about being able to breastfeed and take care of her bub, as she feels she has not much idea of what she is doing. So I sugested to her that maybe a doula could be of great benifit to her by the way of childbirth info, birthing and post natal care/advice etc. She is quite interested in talking to some doulas in the area. So, I thought Id try to get together a list of Doulas in the area to pass on to her. If anyone is interested, could you please either reply or email me directly with all your details [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know your around Abby, but I cant find your contact details. Thanks! Melissah www.Splitart.com Try the new improved Yahoo! Australia NZ Search Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.)PhD. CandidateSchool of Applied and Human SciencesBankstown Campus, University of Western SydneyUWS Locked Bag 1797South Penrith Distribution CentreNSW 1797 AustraliaPhone: 02 97726628Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
Interesting. Thanks Denise! JenDenise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen The midwives I have been with at home from whom I have learnt most therefore what I did was to leave it intact till the babies head was out - as it acts as a cushion for the mother and baby. Also based on Michle Odent's theory about waterbirth's why the baby does not breathe under the water or in the caul/membranes. = that due toPascal's (?) principle = pressure in a fluid filled container (membranes, tub ) is equal in all directions -therefore the pressure receptors on the baby's face do not prompt the baby to take a breath until itisout of water/bag of membranes. When you break it peel it down over the face firstclearing the mouth ready for that first breathe!!Denise Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
[ozmidwifery] Just when you thought it was safe!
Hello everyone! Just thought I would step up on my soap box once again and find out how everyone is doing these days! I have still been a lurker on the ausbirthing list so got a gist of some things that have happened (not all good). For those who dont know me, or who have undergone therapy to forget me! I am Jo Bainbridge, co-ordinator of CARES SA (a cs and vbac support group here in South Aus.) I am also apart of the Maternity Co. and an active consumer for birthing issues. As I said last time I was on, anything that is said on this list by me is my opinion personally and may not reflect CARES philosophy and should not be taken as such. Hope to hear from familiar names and cant wait to meet new ones! Cheers Jo
Re: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL
Sorry no photos but I have had a baby birth this way and I know ir is possible. - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:08 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] BORN IN CAUL Today a paediatric registrar told me that it was impossible for my recent client to have birthed her baby "in the caul". He was wanting photographic proof. I explained that we didn't take photos of such events because 1)it would mean using a "flash"-He couldn't see the problem , 2) we don't know in advance that it is going to happen. Does anyone have photos of this "impossible" event?cheers, MM
RE: [ozmidwifery] Just when you thought it was safe!
Hi Julie, Glad to see you are still on the list. I am proud to tell you that I have finally decided what I want to be when I grow up! (It only took until I was 30!) I have decided to do the child birth educator course thru ACE. Unfortunately I am still an under grad so I will have to see if my merits as co-ordinator of CARES and associated activities can scoot me in! the problem I have faced in the last 5 years is that in order to do something that I feel very passionate about (mother craft/antenatal educator/involved with policy directions) i.e. helping mothers with the transition into parenting with as much support as possibleyou need to be a nurse or a mw! I dont really want to be either. I certainly dont want a degree I dont have any intention on using. No disrespect meant, I just couldnt do it as well as I would want to and would last 2 minutes in a hospitalthe rebellious me would not be able to be contained! SO! As I am as slow as a wet week (although with the recent weather hot weeks suck!), I have missed this years intake! Typical 2 weeks late! But I will be working my way thru this year with the goal of enrolling as soon as I can! Is there any way to get a list of books required so I can start buying now? I would be proud to be apart of the Child Birth educator community! Anyway, better go. Thanks for the cartoon! Very funny! Cheers Jo -Original Message- From: Julie Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 5:01 PM To: 'Dean Jo Bainbridge' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Just when you thought it was safe! Hi Jo, Your email message made me laugh J I am certain there is some wholesome lunatic in all of us. Whether its manic depressive or bi polar disorder who knows! Glad you are back. Look after yourself. I have attached a joke for you. Hug Julie Julie Clarke CBE Childbirth and Parenting Educator ACE Grad-Dip Supervisor NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer Transition into Parenthood 9 Withybrook Pl Sylvania NSW 2224. T. (02) 9544 6441 F. (02) 9544 9257 Mobile 0401 2655 30 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.transitionintoparenthood.com.au From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Jo Bainbridge Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2004 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Just when you thought it was safe! Hello everyone! Just thought I would step up on my soap box once again and find out how everyone is doing these days! I have still been a lurker on the ausbirthing list so got a gist of some things that have happened (not all good). For those who dont know me, or who have undergone therapy to forget me! I am Jo Bainbridge, co-ordinator of CARES SA (a cs and vbac support group here in South Aus.) I am also apart of the Maternity Co. and an active consumer for birthing issues. As I said last time I was on, anything that is said on this list by me is my opinion personally and may not reflect CARES philosophy and should not be taken as such. Hope to hear from familiar names and cant wait to meet new ones! Cheers Jo
