RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care

[nunyara]

Hi Katy

 

From a naturopathic point of view –
when treating any skin conditions, we go back to the digestive system and the
liver.  If the gut and accessory digestive organs are not detoxifying as well
as they should be, then elimination will occur through the other eliminatory
organ which is the skin.  Also, stress/upset etc etc make matters worse.  Treat
all of those and the condition will clear up – sometimes takes a while
though.  Trigger foods are another thing to look out for.  Also decrease
drastically the amount of dairy and wheat products in the diet.  High does of
omega 3 fatty acids i.e. fish oil helps dramatically.  By high does I mean
about 6g daily of a good quality fish oil (not one from the supermarket –
you would need to take about 14 of them daily to get any benefit at all –
that’s why they’re cheap).  Moisturise, moisturise, moisturise with
no petroleum based products at all and only using good quality organic skin
care.  No towelling dry – just lightly patting after a bath or shower.  Lots
of people with skin conditions also have a problem with sulphur so things like
high doses of garlic and other sulphur veges can be eliminated to see if that
makes a difference.  (Other sulphur veges are onions, broccoli, cauliflower,
asparagus).  

 

Hope this helps  

 

Ramona Lane

 









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Hi Katy,





My first thoughts are: does she know what triggers the
eczema? It may be worth looking at an elimination diet to rule out some things.
Look at Sue Dengates website . www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/





Also consider the washing powder or fabric of her
bra/clothes. Many are treated with chemicals and the washing powders/
softeners/soaps/creams/ deodorants etc are a big combination of soap and
chemicals esp fragrance. I use  Miracle wash laundry balls instead of
powders etc which clean by changing the pH of the water and no softeners
needed either (also very economical and environmentally friendly)www.laundryball.com.au/







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From: Katy O'Neill






To: Ozmidwifery 





Sent: Tuesday, September
19, 2006 4:37 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
Nipple care





 





Dear all,  I would like your help with info to forward
on to my niece who suffers from exemia in particular her nipples,
which crack and bleed.  She is not pregnant or feeding, but with
my midwives eye, I would like to help her clear things up to protect the future
BF potential.  My niece was BF till she was 4 and so I feel confident that
she will be very pro. I know little of what she has already tried so all info
would be great.  Thanks in anticipation.   Katy.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care

[suzi and brett]

I've been told by GP that eczema cream with 
steroids in it is no good for nipple breast area (where the skin is fine) as it 
can thin the skin over time - likewise inside of elbows etc...
 
keeping well moisturised - lots of sorbelean is 
good - as drying makes itchy makes scratchy makes red makes drying makes 
itchy...and im telling this from personal nipple experience...which is now all 
over the web everywhere - google my name and it will say - the woman who 
searches astrology, accommodation in byron bay and has eczema on her 
nipples!
 
I didnt have it when i breastfed.
 
maybe breastmilk will moisturise and it wont be an 
issue when she feeds...or it may be bloody itchy and painful! 
 
love suz x

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Justine Caines]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article



Hi Louise

I agree with you.

What we need to do is capitalise on the PHI stuff though (esp now that insurance is on the horizon).

There is still no choice in PHI and no reason to have PHI in rural areas.  But in the advent of a private midwifery expansion this could change quickly.

Midwives could be working privately providing women with care wherever they chose to birth. We could sell the reduced cost of the midwifery care with home help for the first 2 weeks (ie domestic home help).  Heaps of ways to sell this to women.

I would love to talk to you off list re rural issues as someone also in rural NSW, experiencing similar issues.

Kind regards

Justine Caines
National Policy Co-ordinator
Maternity Coalition Inc
PO Box 625
SCONE NSW  2329
Ph: (02) 65453612
Fax: (02)65482902
Mob: 0408 210273
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.maternitycoalition.org.au

Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Melissa Singer]

Yes, I liked the phrase "needed a caesarean".  
Just like the common one post NELUSC 'lucky we did that because the uterus was 
starting to thin'  or 'very lucky because the cord was around the neck' 
... u and?
 
Sometime I worry that this culture that had been 
adopted of women 'unable' to birth and obstetric intervention has gone to far to 
stop or reverse.  It is very depressing.  Also I wonder if we have 
turned into a third world country with malnourished women who have rickets in 
their pelvises because of all the C/S for CPD, obstructed labour 
etc!!!
 
Maybe I'm feeling particularly jaded because I did 
night duty last night and haven't slept, but I go to work prepared for 
battle!
 
Melissa

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tania 
  Smallwood 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:30 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news 
  article
  
  
  Hi Louise and others, 
  
  No eating alive to be 
  done from here J  but I did want 
  to comment on this one…the thing I think I find most offensive about all of 
  this is that it just carries on the charade that the women are paying for, and 
  therefore getting the ‘best’ care.  Women have been conned into thinking 
  that if they pay the highest fees for the PHI, and then pay the biggest gap 
  payment for the ‘best’ obstetrician, go to the ‘best’ hospital, they will have 
  the best, and therefore the safest birth.  This plan just carries that 
  little lie on, by drawing more women into the system, and into this one 
  hospital in particular, when the cold hard reality is that less than one in 
  three of them is going to give birth to their babies through their vagina 
  anyway, and of those one in three, how many are going to be 
  straightforward?  My sources tell me that the c/s rate for primips is up 
  around 70%...so how many women are going to be conned into thinking that they 
  will get this great hotel stay, and then just be glad they were in the 
  hospital to start with, because they ‘needed’ a 
  caesarean…
  Just makes me 
  sad
  Tania
   
  


  

  
  

   

   

   

   
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RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Kelly @ BellyBelly]

Exactly Lisa, it’s business! It’s
all about the dollars for them. But for the families, the idea of five star
treatment after birth is very, very appealing. It’s clever marketing isn’t
it? As well as outsourcing for what they don’t have – room. 

You say you can’t see what the
attraction is to a five star hotel, but let me tell you, 95% of women are not
attracted to being at home! We can see the beauty of it, but society can’t
in this present time. We have confidence and they do not. At the moment, women
are highly valuing being in a glamourous hotel being waited on hand and foot,
dinners cooked, cozy accommodation - whereas if they go home, they have to do
it all for themselves or maybe if they are lucky their partner will - especially
if you were a mum like myself and family support was not available – I was
alone, isolated and had a very bad time ended up on AD’s. I would have jumped
at the opportunity to go to a hotel at the time. They feel special and pampered
instead of having to go home, on their own with no support because they don’t
know otherwise and they don’t feel safe at home. Having a midwife to come
and check on them at home after birth really does not even closely compare for
many, many women when they can get this in a hotel as well as have a great time.


If we want women to accept and value the midwife
then it needs to be marketed better, it needs to be trendy and jazzed up! Not
just a choice being two sides of the fence with opposing views as it is now.
And they want to know what it will do for THEM and what THEY will get out of it.
At the moment there are very many women who do not see birth as something that
needs to be in the home or is safe in home – that’s just a fact
which we have to work on.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Lisa Barrett
Sent: Wednesday, 20 September 2006
12:54 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI
news article



 



Hi,  They
could have helped the women much more by providing midwifery care at
home.  They do have a one off visit (because the hospital can access the
fund from the insurance for it) but sending a midwife into the womens home
after discharge to check up on them is more productive and cheaper than this
bizarre system.  There is to be one midwife to 8 women which isn't exactly
great care  and if they need midwifery imput they will not be eligible for
transfer there in the first place.  Every woman has a private room and all
dads can stay overnight at the Ashford hospital so it's not a problem of
sharing with others that have just birthed.





I just can't see
any advantage ( excluding souroundings and mini bar ( as mentioned in the
radio broadcast) ) for a birthing woman and her family to go to a hotel instead
of going to her own home.





 





The biggest
benefactor of this is the private hospital and the insurance
company.   However it's dressed it's not for the benefit of the woman
it's just business.





Lisa





 





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Message - 







From: Grant and Louise McLeod 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Wednesday,
September 20, 2006 10:59 AM





Subject: RE:
[ozmidwifery] FYI news article





 




 
  
  
  This is my first
  post for a long time so don't eat me alive!
  
  
  I agree with
  Kelly as the woman has to have a nvb it may help our cause to decrease
  LSCS and IOL?
  
  
  Also - as much as
  we would like all women to have 1-2-1 midwifery care ( sheesh where I work we
  have no ante natal clinic, no midwifery input till labour and the GP's doing
  care don't have dip OB- another story another time), it isn't happening now
  and these women have been scared into PHI by the gov't  (and other
  interest groups) and are using it. All our lobbying isn't going to help this
  woman now , it will help others down the track. 
  
  
  Yes home would be
  better, and 'get on with it', but they would've stayed another few nights in
  hospital anyway, maybe transferring to hotel - with partner and rest of
  family is a compromise, you know - get fed/don't have to clean, and
  lactation and parentcraft guidance with partner there to help too. Isn't
  having dad there more like the real world than a hospital room without him
  but with (insert number!)other mums and bubs?
  
  
  just my thoughts
  
  
   
  
  
  Louise 
  
  
  rural NSW
  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
  ---Original
  Message---
  
  
   
  
  
  
  From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  
  
  Date: 09/19/06 21:32:02
  
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
  
  
  Subject: RE:
  [ozmidwifery] FYI news article
  
  
  
   
  
  
  To try and extract any good of this
  though, I wonder, if it will encourage more women to aim for ‘normal
  vagin

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Tania Smallwood]

Hi Louise and others, 

No eating alive to be done from here J  but I did want to
comment on this one…the thing I think I find most offensive about all of this
is that it just carries on the charade that the women are paying for, and
therefore getting the ‘best’ care.  Women have been conned
into thinking that if they pay the highest fees for the PHI, and then pay the
biggest gap payment for the ‘best’ obstetrician, go to the ‘best’
hospital, they will have the best, and therefore the safest birth.  This
plan just carries that little lie on, by drawing more women into the system,
and into this one hospital in particular, when the cold hard reality is that
less than one in three of them is going to give birth to their babies through
their vagina anyway, and of those one in three, how many are going to be
straightforward?  My sources tell me that the c/s rate for primips is up
around 70%...so how many women are going to be conned into thinking that they
will get this great hotel stay, and then just be glad they were in the hospital
to start with, because they ‘needed’ a caesarean…

Just makes me sad

Tania

 


 
  
  
   

 


 


 

   
  
  
  
 


 








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Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Jennifairy]

Megan & Larry wrote:


*Bliss at the 5-star maternity hotel*
MICHAEL OWEN
September 19, 2006 12:15am
Article from: _http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/?from=ni_storyhttp_

*THE state's first maternity ward in a luxury hotel will open early 
next month.*
The Hilton Adelaide has finalised a deal with Ashford Private Hospital 
to provide up to eight "deluxe-plus" rooms for new mothers recovering 
from childbirth.


Called "Baby Bliss", the maternity hotel service program will start 
from October 3, with final Health Department approval expected within 
the next week.


Ashford Hospital and the Hilton say public interest in the scheme has 
been "amazing" since it was first floated in July.,


The program, already in operation in two private hospitals in 
Melbourne, aims to cut costs and free up hospital beds. It has won the 
backing of private health fund Mutual Community and national mother 
advocacy group Mother Inc.


Midwives will stay in a wing of the Hilton dedicated to new mums and 
provide around-the-clock care and advice, while obstetricians will 
continue to oversee care during hotel stays. Partners and siblings of 
new mums will be able to stay at the hotel free. Alan Lane, chief 
executive of hospital operations for the Adelaide Community Healthcare 
Alliance, which owns Ashford Hospital, said the option would only be 
available to women who had a normal vaginal delivery at the hospital.


Mother and baby would be transferred to the Hilton two days after 
giving birth.
"Mother and baby remain patients of Ashford Hospital and the 
responsibility of its medical and nursing teams," Mr Lane said.


The option to stay at the hotel for two nights is included in the 
obstetrics cover provided by the patient's private health fund.


Insurance broker Jenny Lynch, 33, is due to give birth to her first 
child in February. "I really like the idea of not being in that 
sterile hospital environment after I've had my baby - a luxury hotel 
room and a bit of pampering sounds like a pretty good way to relax 
after childbirth," Ms Lynch said yesterday.


Instead of calling it "Baby Bliss", it should be called "Bread and 
Circuses".

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses if you dont get it)
Just another attempt to move attention away from the high-cost/poor care 
paradigm.

A teaspoon of sugar makes the medicine go down.

--

Jennifairy Gillett RM

Midwife in Private Practice

Women’s Health Teaching Associate

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Re: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Lisa Barrett]

Hi,  They could have helped the women much more by 
providing midwifery care at home.  They do have a one off visit (because 
the hospital can access the fund from the insurance for it) but sending a 
midwife into the womens home after discharge to check up on them is more 
productive and cheaper than this bizarre system.  There is to be one 
midwife to 8 women which isn't exactly great care  and if they need 
midwifery imput they will not be eligible for transfer there in the first 
place.  Every woman has a private room and all dads can stay overnight at 
the Ashford hospital so it's not a problem of sharing with others that have just 
birthed.
I just can't see any advantage ( excluding souroundings 
and mini bar ( as mentioned in the radio broadcast) ) for a birthing woman and 
her family to go to a hotel instead of going to her own home.
 
The biggest benefactor of this is the private hospital and the 
insurance company.   However it's dressed it's not for the benefit of 
the woman it's just business.
Lisa
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Grant and 
  Louise McLeod 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 10:59 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news 
  article
  
  

  
This is my first post for a long time so don't eat me alive!
I agree with Kelly as the woman has to have a nvb it may help 
our cause to decrease LSCS and IOL?
Also - as much as we would like all women to have 1-2-1 midwifery 
care ( sheesh where I work we have no ante natal clinic, no midwifery 
input till labour and the GP's doing care don't have dip OB- another 
story another time), it isn't happening now and these women have 
been scared into PHI by the gov't  (and other interest groups) and 
are using it. All our lobbying isn't going to help this woman now 
, it will help others down the track. 
Yes home would be better, and 'get on with it', but they would've 
stayed another few nights in hospital anyway, maybe transferring to 
hotel - with partner and rest of family is a compromise, you know - get 
fed/don't have to clean, and lactation and parentcraft guidance 
with partner there to help too. Isn't having dad there more like the 
real world than a hospital room without him but with (insert 
number!)other mums and bubs?
just my thoughts
 
Louise 
rural NSW
 
 
---Original 
Message---
 

From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Date: 09/19/06 
21:32:02
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: 
[ozmidwifery] FYI news article
 

To try and 
extract any good of this though, I wonder, if it will encourage more 
women to aim for ‘normal vaginal births’ - as per the article, only 
those who do will be allowed to use the 
program.

Best 
Regards,Kelly 
ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle 
Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth 
Support - 
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support




From: 
owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] 
On Behalf Of Megan & 
LarrySent: Tuesday, 19 
September 2006 1:21 PMTo: ozmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] FYI news 
article

Bliss at the 5-star maternity 
hotel MICHAEL OWEN September 19, 2006 12:15am 
Article from: http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/?from=ni_storyhttp 

THE state's first maternity 
ward in a luxury hotel will open early next month. 
The Hilton Adelaide has finalised a deal with Ashford 
Private Hospital to provide up to eight 
"deluxe-plus" rooms for new mothers recovering from childbirth. 

Called "Baby Bliss", the maternity hotel service 
program will start from October 3, with final Health Department approval 
expected within the next week. 
Ashford 
Hospital and the 
Hilton say public interest in the scheme has been "amazing" since it was 
first floated in July., 
The 
program, already in operation in two private hospitals in Melbourne, aims to 
cut costs and free up hospital beds. It has won the backing of private 
health fund Mutual Community and national mother advocacy group Mother 
Inc. 
Midwives will stay in a wing of the Hilton 
dedicated to new mums and provide around-the-clock care and advice, 
while obstetricians will continue to oversee care during hotel stays. 
Partners and siblings of new mums will be able to stay at the hotel 
free. Alan 
La

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Grant and Louise McLeod]

This is my first post for a long time so don't eat me alive!
I agree with Kelly as the woman has to have a nvb it may help our cause to decrease LSCS and IOL?
Also - as much as we would like all women to have 1-2-1 midwifery care ( sheesh where I work we have no ante natal clinic, no midwifery input till labour and the GP's doing care don't have dip OB- another story another time), it isn't happening now and these women have been scared into PHI by the gov't  (and other interest groups) and are using it. All our lobbying isn't going to help this woman now , it will help others down the track. 
Yes home would be better, and 'get on with it', but they would've stayed another few nights in hospital anyway, maybe transferring to hotel - with partner and rest of family is a compromise, you know - get fed/don't have to clean, and lactation and parentcraft guidance with partner there to help too. Isn't having dad there more like the real world than a hospital room without him but with (insert number!)other mums and bubs?
just my thoughts
 
Louise 
rural NSW
 
 
---Original Message---
 

From: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Date: 09/19/06 21:32:02
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article
 

To try and extract any good of this though, I wonder, if it will encourage more women to aim for ‘normal vaginal births’ - as per the article, only those who do will be allowed to use the program.

Best Regards,Kelly ZanteyCreator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception to ParenthoodBellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support




From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Megan & LarrySent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006 1:21 PMTo: ozmidwiferySubject: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article
 
Bliss at the 5-star maternity hotel MICHAEL OWEN September 19, 2006 12:15am Article from: http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/?from=ni_storyhttp 
THE state's first maternity ward in a luxury hotel will open early next month. The Hilton Adelaide has finalised a deal with Ashford Private Hospital to provide up to eight "deluxe-plus" rooms for new mothers recovering from childbirth. 
Called "Baby Bliss", the maternity hotel service program will start from October 3, with final Health Department approval expected within the next week. 
Ashford Hospital and the Hilton say public interest in the scheme has been "amazing" since it was first floated in July., 
The program, already in operation in two private hospitals in Melbourne, aims to cut costs and free up hospital beds. It has won the backing of private health fund Mutual Community and national mother advocacy group Mother Inc. 
Midwives will stay in a wing of the Hilton dedicated to new mums and provide around-the-clock care and advice, while obstetricians will continue to oversee care during hotel stays. Partners and siblings of new mums will be able to stay at the hotel free. Alan Lane, chief executive of hospital operations for the Adelaide Community Healthcare Alliance, which owns Ashford Hospital, said the option would only be available to women who had a normal vaginal delivery at the hospital. 
Mother and baby would be transferred to the Hilton two days after giving birth. "Mother and baby remain patients of Ashford Hospital and the responsibility of its medical and nursing teams," Mr Lane said. 
The option to stay at the hotel for two nights is included in the obstetrics cover provided by the patient's private health fund. 
Insurance broker Jenny Lynch, 33, is due to give birth to her first child in February. "I really like the idea of not being in that sterile hospital environment after I've had my baby - a luxury hotel room and a bit of pampering sounds like a pretty good way to relax after childbirth," Ms Lynch said yesterday.
 

[ozmidwifery] MSNBC.com Article: More infant deaths with elective C-sections

[Leanne Wynne]

More infant deaths with elective C-sections

A new study has found a higher risk of infant deaths among infants born by Caesarean section to mothers who have no medical need for the procedure.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14838765/from/ET/

Re: [ozmidwifery] Twins

[Lynne Staff]

Hi Kirsten
I run a Twice Blessed session on a needs basis and 
have a session outline and a handout that I give to women if that would 
help.
Regards, Lynne

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  From: 
  Kristin 
  Beckedahl 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:14 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Twins
  
  
  Hi all,
  I'm a CBE and have had a call from a 
  lady with twins looking to attend the course I'm running.  Seeing I've 
  never had much to do with twins (preg, birth or babycare) I was hoping 
  some of you could shed some light on some important points or issues that I 
  could pass onto her.  
  Thanks so much,
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Funds

[Lynne Staff]

I agree Mary - also when it is so damned hard to 
get ANY funding for postnatal care, or breastfeeding support, or community care 
at home for women, especially with postnatal stays of 2 days and so many 
women have had interventive births. G! 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mary 
  Murphy 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:07 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Funds
  
  
  “The 
  option to stay at the hotel for two nights is included in the obstetrics cover 
  provided by the patient's private health fund. “
  This is 
  the bit that makes me mad, when it is difficult to get decent refunds for 
  homebirth. MM
   

Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care

[Barbara Glare & Chris Bright]

Hi,
 
there's a great paper at the Lactation Resource 
Centre on Breastfeeding and eczema.  It's in the "Hot Topics" or "Topics in 
Breastfeeding" series.  You can contact them on (03)9885 0855
 
Barb

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  diane 
  
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:27 
  PM
  Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: 
  [ozmidwifery] Nipple care
  
  Hi Katy,
  My first thoughts are: does she know what 
  triggers the eczema? It may be worth looking at an elimination diet to rule 
  out some things. Look at Sue Dengates website . www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/
  Also consider the washing powder or fabric of her 
  bra/clothes. Many are treated with chemicals and the washing powders/ 
  softeners/soaps/creams/ deodorants etc are a big combination of soap and 
  chemicals esp fragrance. I use  Miracle wash laundry balls instead of 
  powders etc which clean by changing the pH of the water and no softeners 
  needed either (also very economical and environmentally friendly)www.laundryball.com.au/
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Katy 
O'Neill 
To: Ozmidwifery 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:37 
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Nipple 
care

Dear all,  I would like your help with 
info to forward on to my niece who suffers from exemia in particular her 
nipples, which crack and bleed.  She is not pregnant or 
feeding, but with my midwives eye, I would like to help her clear things up 
to protect the future BF potential.  My niece was BF till she was 4 and 
so I feel confident that she will be very pro. I know little of what she has 
already tried so all info would be great.  Thanks in 
anticipation.   
Katy.

RE: [ozmidwifery] FYI news article

[Kelly @ BellyBelly]

Title: FYI news article








To try and extract any good of this
though, I wonder, if it will encourage more women to aim for ‘normal
vaginal births’ - as per the article, only those who do will be allowed
to use the program.



Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator, BellyBelly.com.au 
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support
- http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support











From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Megan & Larry
Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006
1:21 PM
To: ozmidwifery
Subject: [ozmidwifery] FYI news
article



 

Bliss at the 5-star maternity hotel 
MICHAEL OWEN 
September 19, 2006 12:15am 
Article from: http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/?from=ni_storyhttp


THE state's first maternity ward in a luxury hotel will open
early next month. 
The Hilton Adelaide has finalised a deal with Ashford Private
 Hospital to provide up to
eight "deluxe-plus" rooms for new mothers recovering from childbirth.


Called
"Baby Bliss", the maternity hotel service program will start from
October 3, with final Health Department approval expected within the next week.


Ashford
 Hospital and the Hilton
say public interest in the scheme has been "amazing" since it was
first floated in July., 

The
program, already in operation in two private hospitals in Melbourne, aims to cut costs and free up
hospital beds. It has won the backing of private health fund Mutual Community
and national mother advocacy group Mother Inc. 

Midwives
will stay in a wing of the Hilton dedicated to new mums and provide
around-the-clock care and advice, while obstetricians will continue to oversee
care during hotel stays. Partners and siblings of new mums will be able to stay
at the hotel free. Alan Lane,
chief executive of hospital operations for the Adelaide Community Healthcare
Alliance, which owns Ashford
 Hospital, said the option
would only be available to women who had a normal vaginal delivery at the
hospital. 

Mother
and baby would be transferred to the Hilton two days after giving birth. 
"Mother and baby remain patients of Ashford Hospital
and the responsibility of its medical and nursing teams," Mr Lane said. 

The
option to stay at the hotel for two nights is included in the obstetrics cover
provided by the patient's private health fund. 

Insurance
broker Jenny Lynch, 33, is due to give birth to her first child in February.
"I really like the idea of not being in that sterile hospital environment
after I've had my baby - a luxury hotel room and a bit of pampering sounds like
a pretty good way to relax after childbirth," Ms Lynch said yesterday.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care

[Jo Watson]

Hi Katy.I had great success with "Kenacomb" ointment for my nipple trauma and subsequ\\\ent infection and thrush.  It is to be used VERY sparingly, but worked wonders.  It has an antifungal, antibiotic and a steroid in it.  I think it is still prescription only, though.  HTH!JoOn 19/09/2006, at 2:37 PM, Katy O'Neill wrote:Dear all,  I would like your help with info to forward on to my niece who suffers from exemia in particular her nipples, which crack and bleed.  She is not pregnant or feeding, but with my midwives eye, I would like to help her clear things up to protect the future BF potential.  My niece was BF till she was 4 and so I feel confident that she will be very pro. I know little of what she has already tried so all info would be great.  Thanks in anticipation.   Katy.

Re: [ozmidwifery] pregnancy

[Andrea Quanchi]

I have had a client whose mother died  following the birth of her younger brother. She was four years old and home alone with her mother 2-3 days after giving birth when her mother unable to get off the couch sent Mandy to get a neighbor.  She claims to have no conscious memory of the incident but after having been with her through four pregnancies and births it definitely had an effect.  It took till the fourth pregnancy for her to allow herself to grieve for her mother something she had never been allowed to do. She learnt as a little girl not to talk about it or cry because it upset her Dad and Grandmother. Finally during her last pregnancy she rang me one day and said she needed to see me and sat at my dining room table and said "I want my Mum" and then cried and cried for nearly two hours. She then kept crying for nearly two weeks, for no apparent reason but just let herself do it. I think it was thirty years of tears coming out.  After this episode her physical symptoms ( she had had terrible gastritis requiring medication throughout each pregnancy and dependent oedema causing carpel tunnel etc) went away and she finally got the pregnancy glow that I had never seen before. She had her empowering birth that she had been seeking and is cruising as the mother of four under six. Andrea QuanchiOn 19/09/2006, at 4:39 PM, Julie Clarke wrote:Hi ozmid wise women,I have just become acquainted with a woman who is pregnant and in a brief conversation she informed me that her mother died during childbirth whilst giving birth to her. I don’t know anymore than this for now as the opportunity to ask further questions didn’t rise.I cannot help but think about what this might feel like to this pregnant woman and I wondered if anyone else on this list has encountered this situation before and if you could share some words of wisdom.My heart really goes out to her and if I get the chance in future conversations I would really like to be able to help her in a sensitive way.Any thoughts?Warm hugJulie 

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care

[diane]

Hi Katy,
My first thoughts are: does she know what triggers 
the eczema? It may be worth looking at an elimination diet to rule out some 
things. Look at Sue Dengates website . www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/
Also consider the washing powder or fabric of her 
bra/clothes. Many are treated with chemicals and the washing powders/ 
softeners/soaps/creams/ deodorants etc are a big combination of soap and 
chemicals esp fragrance. I use  Miracle wash laundry balls instead of 
powders etc which clean by changing the pH of the water and no softeners 
needed either (also very economical and environmentally friendly)www.laundryball.com.au/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Katy 
  O'Neill 
  To: Ozmidwifery 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:37 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care
  
  Dear all,  I would like your help with info 
  to forward on to my niece who suffers from exemia in particular her nipples, 
  which crack and bleed.  She is not pregnant or feeding, but 
  with my midwives eye, I would like to help her clear things up to protect the 
  future BF potential.  My niece was BF till she was 4 and so I feel 
  confident that she will be very pro. I know little of what she has already 
  tried so all info would be great.  Thanks in anticipation.   
  Katy.

Re: [ozmidwifery] pregnancy

[Barbara Glare & Chris Bright]

Hi,
 
Not quite the same, but my mother was 9 months 
pregnant when she died of a heart attack at the age of 36.  The baby she 
carried died - we lived in the country, and she left 5 children.  At 14 I 
was the eldest.  My youngest sister was two at the time and is now pregnant 
and due in Feb, so brings up many strange feelings.  Maybe if you get some 
replies, this will help me with my sister as well.  
 
On another tangent, I spoke with a women about this 
a while ago.  She was a midwife herself.  Her mother died during 
childbirth.  She was listening to a presentation on birth and bonding at a 
conference one day when she suddenly and unexpectedly found herself 
crying.  Although her father had remarried by the time she had conscious 
memories and she regarded that woman as her mother she realised that you never 
get over losing your mother, even if you can't remember it consciously.  
And the grief and loss of being that little baby all alone with no mother was 
profound even after 40 yrs or so.
 
For me, I never feared birth or labour.  But I 
found one-to-one midwifery care to be vital in this. I had 3 lovely births and 4 
long and nurturing breastfeeding experiences and I think it has all been very 
healing. I know I'm feeling just a tad nervy about my son reaching 14 - the year 
my experience of being mothered ended - nothing we can't sort out, but just a 
weird feeling that I'm really moving into unchartered territory.
 
Barb
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Julie 
  Clarke 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:39 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] pregnancy
  
  
  Hi ozmid wise 
  women,
  I have just become acquainted with a woman who is 
  pregnant and in a brief conversation she informed me that her mother died 
  during childbirth whilst giving birth to her. I don’t know anymore than this 
  for now as the opportunity to ask further questions didn’t 
  rise.
  I cannot help but think about what this might feel 
  like to this pregnant woman and I wondered if anyone else on this list has 
  encountered this situation before and if you could share some words of wisdom. 
  
  My heart really goes out to her and if I get the 
  chance in future conversations I would really like to be able to help her in a 
  sensitive way.
  Any thoughts?
  Warm hug
  Julie
   

RE: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care

[Tania Smallwood]

Is this like Raynaud’s?  The
ABA have published some great information about nipple vasospasm in the past,
Barb might be able to put you in the right direction with that…I suffer
with Raynaud’s but never had any problems with my boobs, much more
affected in my hands and feet.  Guess I was lucky!  I’m sure
some of the principals of keeping those bits warm and well perfused could also
be applied to the breast, but with caution (hot packs etc).  I have had
some success with Gingko Biloba, but it’s not proven safe in
pregnancy.  Mainstream treatment includes Beta blockers, but again, you’d
have to be careful on the effect on a developing baby if and when she gets
pregnant.  There might be some benefit in trying acupuncture or homeopathy
before she gets pregnant.  For me, my Raynaud’s was much better when
I had a baby on board, perhaps all that extra blood volume?  

 

Anyway, just some musings from someone who
knows a bit about it in other parts…

 

Tania

xxx

 









From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
[mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au]
On Behalf Of Katy O'Neill
Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2006
4:08 PM
To: Ozmidwifery
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Nipple care



 



Dear all,  I would like your help with info to forward
on to my niece who suffers from exemia in particular her nipples,
which crack and bleed.  She is not pregnant or feeding, but with
my midwives eye, I would like to help her clear things up to protect the future
BF potential.  My niece was BF till she was 4 and so I feel confident that
she will be very pro. I know little of what she has already tried so all info
would be great.  Thanks in anticipation.   Katy.










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