[ozmidwifery] Another client moving east!!!!
Hi all again, this time I have a Community Midwifery Program client moving around but will be in Brisbane for Christmas, and then probably birth in Tamworth EDB 5-02-05. They are there for the Country Music Festival (about Jan 24th). She had planned a homebirth here in WA, but will be travelling in a caravan/camper so is unsure whether it will be possible to birth in it. She has a 5 yr old and a 3 yr old also - straight forward births. What is the birthing situation in Brisbane and Tamworth? Mid led care? Any homebirth midwives close by???Hospital situation?? Thanks, Laraine. In defence of this apparent exodus, we have also had several women and families travelling in buses etc, arrive in WA in time for a home birth!
[ozmidwifery] Midwives wanted on the East Coast
I have two clients who have moved to the East from WA. One will be in North Ryde, NSW. Primip, and wanting either a home birth, preferably with a Christian midwife,or birth centre birth. The other is G3 in Springfield, NSW. Her history is one B. centre and one homebirth. Could anyone with info for either of these clients please email me, off listif preferred. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your help. Laraine
[ozmidwifery] East Coast Midwives
HI all, Thanks for the replies. Springfield is 'Central Coast' - if that helps. I will forward the info to my clients. Thanks again, Laraine
[ozmidwifery] Midwifery Vacancy
COMMUNITY MIDWIFERY WA Director of Midwifery Services A dynamic person is required half-time, to provide professional support clinical overview of the Community Midwifery Program (CMP). The position can involve some clinical practice. The CMP is an innovative community based, government funded program, providing midwifery and educational services. We are seeking a highly competent clinical practitioner with knowledge of current midwifery issues and preferably with experience in home births. The successful applicant will be a practising registered midwife with excellent interpersonal and organisational skills. Please phone Val on (08) 9339 0021 to discuss the position in advance of applying or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to obtain the information package. Applications close 15 August 2004. www.communitymidwifery.iinet.net.au Please send to anyone you know who would be interested, thanks, Laraine
Re: [ozmidwifery] Australian research
My onlyquestion isdo we impose what we as midwives want on women? Surely if they want their baby weighed for whatever reason, they have that right. Otherwise it is again limiting women's choice. Ihave heard ofmidwives who refuse to weigh the baby until the next day, do we have that right? Even if their reasons are that they teach the mum to look at their baby and assess its growth etc rather than relying on weighing, but again , do we have that right to say what they can and can't do? No criticism, just thoughts. Cheers, Laraine - Original Message - From: Judy Chapman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Australian research Hear, Hear Sadie. I won't weigh the baby before feeding unless we have tried and baby is not ready. I often joke with the women about them not even knowing what a pound is. They want it for the grandparents. Cheers Judy Sadie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting research Mary - however it is quite amazing how many couples want their baby weighed before even considering feeding! And why do people insist on knowing the baby's weight in the old imperial system of pounds?? Even really young couples want to know the weight in pounds! Cheers, Sadie Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
Re: [ozmidwifery] bumper stickers
Title: Message Hi , I have been noticing bumper stickers over the last few days. Unfortunately anything too wordy gets missed because you can't read it unless you're uncomfortably close to the bumper! An example of this is 'Don't take your organs to Heaven, Heaven knows they're needed here' or something to that effect. Anyway, very hard to read from anything over a few feet away.Maybe afew words in an eye catching colour may be a better option? Laraine - Original Message - From: Wayne and Cas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] bumper stickers I like Barb's too. How about "Midwives provide real birth care because they care about birth". Cas, Wayne, Liam and Daniel McCullough cas@casmccullough.com www.casmccullough.com
Re: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery Group Practice at the WCH in SA
Hi Jackie, this sounds really interesting. Where can I find out more about this type of group practice? Thanks, Laraine - Original Message - From: Jackie Kitschke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:19 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Midwifery Group Practice at the WCH in SA Denise, The WCH has had a working party set to offer caseload there for about the last 7-8 years. In the last 4 or so yearsChris Cornwell worked with Rob Bonner fromthe ANF to get a salaried wage specifically for caseload.this was sothatthe midwivesdidn't have to worry about time in leiu etc and not use the current nursing award to pay midwives who want to work in this way. So this salaried wage agreement has been formulated for the WCH with the ANF and signed off by the DHS (Deparment of Human Services) and the Industrial Commision. The agreement details the amount of hours allowed work by the midwives, how many women they can care for etc. Contact the ANF in SA for details. The WCH started Midwifery Group Practice (MGP) on the 25/1/03, so it was a big weekend for Chris and everyone involved. I am home enjoying being a Mum and will go back to it in September. Jackie
Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple piercing breastfeeding.
Hi all, I have a client with multiple nipple piercings and she is breast feeding without any problems for the baby. Her major concern is that with the let down reflex, she turns into a sprinkler both sides. While this is fine at feed time with the help of nursing pads to control the excess (she has so much she doesn't need to collect it), it is apparently less convenient in supermarkets etc when this reflex also occurs close to feed times etc. She is very open about such things and has demonstrated her 'sprinklers' to many of her friends who also are highly amused!!! Now there's a party trick had to top!, Laraine - Original Message - From: Marilyn Kleidon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Nipple piercing breastfeeding. There actually is an articles in The Practicing Midwife or is it Practical Midwifery, a British Journal on this from 1999, I think. In any case I had several homebirth clients with nipple piercings in Seattle. Most had to take out their umbilical rings sometime in the 3rd trimester for comfort and about this time we suggested taking out the nipple piercing too. All of our women did this without an issue, as the milk appeared to flow from the piercings I am assuming for these women at least the holes did not heal over. I was at one birth where the mum did not remove the piercings until the baby was born: this worked ok too: it is individual preference when they are removed, but, I think they should be removed before feeding in case they were to come apart due to suckling and a part get swallowed. However, this may seem a stupid fear to those more familiar with the piercings equipment: I would defer to Rhonda on this one. I would think re holes healing up it would be similar (though not necessarily the same as) ear piercings: my holes never completely close over despite not wearing earings for months(even years) at a time and my mother was the same, just put the earing in again when desired, takes a bit of pushing is all never hurts, where as others have to always wear earings or the holes close up. Individual differences. marilyn - Original Message - From: Vance Edwina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 6:03 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Nipple piercing breastfeeding. The following request is from Aviva who was on this list last year. I have helped one woman to breastfeed with a nipple ring. She didn't want it removed and we managed to attach the baby with the ring insitu, and all seemed to go well while in hospital - but I don't know how long it lasted once she went home so I would appreciate any feedback you wise women have to offer. I will of course forward the replies to Aviva. Thanks, Edwina (Message from Aviva reads:) Which reminds me. I have a question for Ozmidwifery. Would you please put it on the loop and forward the replies to me? Maybe I ought to sign back in, but it takes so long to get through the emails every day. How is it going? (This is, of course, dependent on your still being on said list.) The questions relate to feeding and nipple piercing (why??/ why?? do they do it?): If a woman has a pierced nipple, how does this affect her ability to breastfeed? If she takes the nipple ring out, how long does it take for the hole to heal, and does it heal completely, or has she buggered her chances of feeding. If she's buggered it, what happens??? -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MatCoWA] give me some questions
Me too I have nodded, laughed, sighed and totally agreed with what I've read so far. Also, thanks for all the ideas and info about mid text books, Laraine. - Original Message - From: Dierdre Bowman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [MatCoWA] give me some questions I would love to see a copy of this broucher on midwiveswhen it's complete if that's possible. Blessings Dierdre B.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Another unec. C-section...
Aren't they clever! They (obs) are saying we want women to have the choice for choice's sake not merely based on medical criteria. If a woman wants it, she should be allowed and we, the men of importance, support their choice! And if she wants it now, on this date, she should be allowed to have that too inour 'have to have it yesterday, because I said so' society. And of course, their friends the cosmetic surgeons will be available 4.5 months later for the liposuction and breast enhancement when the breasts start to need an uplift. But if men are supporting the 'women can have this surgery because we think it is best for them' and they want it ( and hey, vaginal childbirth is one thingwomen can do thatmen can't and that can't be fair), then I think its high time women made decisions about testicles and if we want to remove them surgically from men I am sure we could come up with some research proposal that says certain men would be better off without them, and there's bound to be a section of the female population who would come out with a media statement backing that. Then the major decision would be - under epidural, spinal or GA? Original Message - From: Lesley Kuliukas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Another unec. C-section... Another nail in the coffin: washingtonpost.com Elective Caesareans Judged Ethical Doctors Group Issues Statement on Popular Procedure By Rob SteinWashington Post Staff WriterFriday, October 31, 2003; Page A02 It is ethical for doctors to deliver a baby by Caesarean section even if the mother faces no known risks from conventional labor, the nation's largest group of pregnancy specialists has decided.The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists' ethics committee is issuing a statement today that for the first time addresses the increasingly popular elective Caesarean sections -- those performed when there is no medical necessity. The organization has never before issued guidelines or official opinions about elective Caesareans, but for years it has been among many medical groups that campaigned to reduce the number of surgical deliveries for any reason.The new statement could help accelerate a rapid increase in Caesarean sections by making doctors more willing to perform the procedure on an elective basis, some experts said.In a retreat from the "natural childbirth" movement, the number of women undergoing surgical deliveries has reached an all-time high. More than one-quarter of all U.S. babies are delivered surgically, the highest rate since the government started collecting statistics on the issue in 1989.The reasons for the increase are complex and controversial, but the trend is being driven in part by a rise in elective Caesareans.Even if their babies are not in a feet-downward "breech" position, or they do not face other possible complications, some women are choosing to forego natural labor and instead schedule a surgical delivery, either for convenience, because they fear the pain of childbirth, or because of concerns about possible long-term complications from the physical trauma of labor and delivery.The increase has led to an intense debate. Opponents argue that elective Caesareans are costly, require more recovery time, and put women at risk for infections, hemorrhages and other complications.Proponents say Caesareans pose no serious risks for most women and that expectant mothers should have the choice. Some go further, saying doctors should actively offer the option because labor and delivery carries significant risks for long-term complications, including decreased sexual sensation, incontinence and other health problems.In the new statement, the ethics committee concludes that the relative risks and benefits of elective Caesareans vs. vaginal deliveries remain unclear, and it cautions against actively advocating surgical deliveries."The burden of proof should fall on those who are advocates for . . . the replacement of a natural process with a major surgical procedure," the committee wrote.Moreover, "given the lack of data, it is not ethically necessary to initiate discussion regarding the relative risks and benefits of elective [Caesarean] birth versus vaginal delivery with every pregnant patient," the committee wrote.But the committee also concludes that "if the physician believes that [Caesarean] delivery promotes the overall health and welfare of the woman and her fetus more than vaginal birth, he or she is ethically justified in performing" the procedure. Robert Lorenz, vice chief of obstetrics at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, Mich., a member of the committee, cautioned that the statement was not meant to encourage elective Caesareans but to provide an ethical
Re: [ozmidwifery] there is hope yet!
Thanks Mary!!! Now what can I blame?? Me ( I seem to have forgotten my name temporarily) - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] there is hope yet! Considering the average age of midwives and nurses, I thought this relevant. MM "Menopause Not Linked to Decline in Cognitive Functioning: NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Sept 23 - Progression through a natural menopausal transition is not associated with significant memory loss, longitudinal study findings indicate. Previous cross-sectional studies have suggested a self-reported increase in forgetfulness during menopausal transition, Dr. Peter M. Meyer and colleagues note in the September 23rd issue of Neurology. Findings regarding potential benefits of hormone replacement therapy have been inconsistent"
[ozmidwifery] Sally Tracey
Hi Sally, Could you contact me off list please. I would like to chat to you about ACMI stuff, thanks Laraine. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ozmidwifery] [Ozmidwifery] Asthma Antibiotics
Hi all, does anyone know the reference for the study linking increased incidence of asthma with the use of ABs on neonates I need it to continue a 'discussion' with a medical colleague! Thanks, Laraine
Re: [ozmidwifery] midwifery in India
Hi Julie, I spent 3 weeks in India at the beginning of this yearon a volunteer medical mission - hoping to see home births etc. Unfortunately there was a huge push to have the rural women birth in the hospitals, with them being offered 'family planning operations' after their 2nd baby. Often cash incentives accompanied this 'offer'. I also have a friend who is currently there and I will get her details of the hospital etc and forward them to you. It will be an amazing, eye opening experience for you and well worth it.How long are you going for??Also, be prepared for culture shock when you go but an even bigger one when you come back as you will all have changed but those around you at home won't have. It will be really important for you to debrief well, as a group, and as individuals. It was an incredible experience for me that taught me a lot about me and how fortunate we are to live in Oz. Good luck and keep us posted, Laraine- Original Message - From: Julie Garratt To: Ozmid ; Bmid Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:27 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] midwifery in India Hello wise people:) A few of the Bmid students and I are planing a trip to India this Christmas to experience midwifery in another culture. What we're wondering is have any of you been over there and had anybirth experiences with Indian women. Do you think we could volenteer at a hospital or midwifery clinic? Does anyone have any contacts? Were only in the planning stages at the momentand your imput would be great. Cheers, Julie'',
Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: ICE ON SWOLLEN CERVIX !
I have been told about it, never actually seen it done although I was asked for ice once by another midwife for this reason, but it was not applied. My concerns were, the effect on the vaginal tissues of the ice (big enough to grasp but not too big or sharp corners as to damage vagina), the manoeuvring required to actually apply the ice ( ie fingers or fist in the vagina) to the correct area and maintain it there long enough to have any effect, the effect upon the temperature of foetalscalp fontanelle that surely must be pushing against the lip of cervix, potential for infection as with any VE to say nothing of the effect upon the mother. You'd have to make sure she knew exactly what you were doing and why and be coherent which can be tricky around transition! Maybe if a brave research oriented mw could try it on herself first and report Sorry I'm a bit busy for research at the moment. Cheers (or should it be chills ?) Laraine - Original Message - From: Robyn Borgas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:17 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: ICE ON SWOLLEN CERVIX ! Has anyone tried applying 'ice on a swollen cervix' with a LABOURING WOMAN ? Does this really work ?
Re: [ozmidwifery] breech presentation - need help!
Hi Tania, I have a client on the CMP WA who has had a successful ECV (by a very nervous but supportive Obs) after a previous N/eluscs and has just birthed vaginally about a week ago!. She researched the ECV. The articles were 'External cephalic version after cesarean section:a series of 38 case ' by J.B.de Meeus, F Ellia, G. Gagnin in European Journal of Obstetrics Gyneocology and Reproductive Biology 81 (1998) 65-68. ;External cephalic version after previous cesarean section by Flamm, Fried, Lonky saurenman Giles. Am J Obstet Gynecol, Aug 91, p370 -72 ; External cephalic version after previous cesarean section - a clinical dilemma by Schachter, Kogan, Blickstein, Int J Gynecol Obstet, 1994, 45: p17-20. Hope these help, Laraine - Original Message - From: Carolyn Donaghey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] breech presentation - need help! Hi TaniaI have also a page on our website that has the abstracts of studies on ECV for women with a previous cs, to put your mind at ease with the safety aspect. The studies showed that it was a safe choice for women with a scar. In addition contact Chris Wilkinson, as he is the one who has performed these successful ECV's that Jo refers to.Good luck, I hope she decides to do it as her chance for a successful vbac would be really good.Carolynwww.cares-sa.org.auTom, Tania and Sam Smallwood wrote: Hi all, I'm writing for ideas for a friend, has had a previous LSCS for failure to progress after an induction, now 39 weeks and has just found out baby is breech. Desperately wants to try for a VBAC, now thinking it's all out the window. What I need from you wise women, is a shortlist of what I should suggest to her, as she doesn't have much time, and going in for accupuncture treatments, or trying hands and knees might just not work in time. Is it reasonable to suggest she try an ECV at this late stage ( I know there are increased risks associated with a previous LSCS, but she may decide that those risks are fewer than those of a repeat section). I want to suggest to her the things which have the best chance of working, while being honest about the risks, and failure rate, so she can make up her own mind. Thanks Tania
[ozmidwifery] MW for Perth
Hi Perth midwives,the ACMI officehave received a message re an opportunity at Wembley Chiropractic Clinic for a MWto have a room to use for private practice. The room is used on a Wed but the other days are open. It is opposite St J's Subi. Contact details are 'Rachel Wells, ph 93880823' . I'm not sure how much they would charge etc, and it would have to be private clients (therefore no PIinsurance) as there is no medicare rebate etc. For clients to gain a rebate you would have to be registered with the various health insurance funds etc. Laraine
[ozmidwifery] [Ozmidwifery] placenta drying
I have a client who has successfully dried her placenta using the salt method, (baby born 3/11/02). It now is pale pink white with deep red streaks and looks like an exotic lily in shape complete with stalk (cord) attached. She now wants to know if she needs to put oil on it to 'condition' it like leather needs, or whether just to leave it Any experience/suggestions I can pass on? Thanks Laraine
Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: New Summer issue of Byronchild and free bumper stickers
Title: New Summer issue of Byronchild and free bumper stickers I would love to view your magazine. I teach Active Birth workshops and sometimes antenatal classes, and as an independent midwife, I am always 'teaching' my clients. Postal Address is, Laraine Hood, 1 Hewison St, Leeming, WA 6149. Many Thanks, and keep up the good work! - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] FW: New Summer issue of Byronchild and free bumper stickers Dear friends ,At last the summer edition of Byronchild Magazine (vol. 4) is on the stands! It is our most beautiful issue ever. As a special offer to childbirth educators, I would like to post you a free copy of Byronchild - the magazine for progressive families, for your review. Byronchild is Australia's first nationally distributed independently owned alternative family life magazine. Just email me your postal address and I will get one to you. Below is a listing of the current articles in our Dec. issue. If you know of any other childbirth educators or associations that might be interested to receive a free magazine, please send me their details. Bumper Stickers - a gift for youByronchild is launching a new campaign "Is it good for the Kids?"...a question that can serve as a litmus test to all our endeavors, public and private. Details of the campaign are in this issues editorial and on www.byronchild.com on the editorials page (Dec. ed). In honor of the campaign, we have created bumper stickers. The stickers are free to anyone, a gift from Byronchild. You can pick one (or more) at Abraxis Books, Watergarden, Medicine Wheel and Focus Crafts in Byron Bay. Outside of Byron you can get them at the Tyagarah Service Station in Tyagarah or post me a self-addressed stamped envelope and I will mail you one (or more as you request). Lecture SeriesThis issues lecture is presented by Susan Perrow. She is doing a story telling workshop. Saturday, Feb. 15th 9:45 am to 4pmByron Council Training Room, Bayshore Drive, Byron Industrial Estate (opp. Jenny Cake)$15 each, Bookings 66267159Susan is an incredible asset to this community and to parents...don't miss this chance to expose yourself to her wisdom. The summer issue of Byronchild vol 4 (see below) editor¹s page € Is it Good for the Kids? The real bottom line on the balance sheet.Our current value system is undermining our capacity to cherish what is unquantifiable: children and parenting.By Kali Wendorf feature articles special features: bullying, television Bullying and your child€ Sticks and Stones Bullying is a real issue these days in Australian schools. Here is what to do about it. By Ken Rigby€ Myths and Misperceptions about BullyingThere might be some ideas entertained about both sides that are not true. Understanding the misperceptions is one step towards healing.By Dr. Tim Field€ The ButterflyA story about the advantages and value of conflict in our lives.Television what it is doing to our kids € Break out of the BoxOur children are at risk from watching television as it takes away many vital processes such as play and relating that are important for their development. Are we dumbing our children down?By Trudy Hart€ Whole Again; our Family after TVGetting free of the television is easier than you think, and more fun!By Sandy Driver€ In the Belly of BoredomBoredom is the key to immense creativity. Rather than scurry to prevent it in our lives, invite it in! By Nancy Blakey community parenting € The Hurried ChildThere are increasing pressures on parents and schools to expose children to intellectual concepts at earlier ages but studies are showing that this may not be in their best interest.By Susan Perrow€ And Then He was FiveA very funny story from the frontlines of parenting. By Daniel Prokop € Feminism and MotherhoodHas feminism done her work, or is there still more to do? By Deborah Hall€ Cultural Renewal: Revitalising Youth FuturesThe Youth of today are seeking ways to define their culture and individuality and steer away from the pressure towards homogeneity.By Jennifer Gidley midwifery € The Nature of Natural BirthingUnderstanding the importance of primal brain functioning is the key to supporting women through birth. By Dr. Christine Vose pregnancy, birth babies € Ready, Set, No Go.Preparing for birth perfectly didn¹t mean that it would all work out like planned!A Katrina Folkwell excerpt€ Mothering, Mindfulness and a Baby¹s Bottom: An introduction to Elimination CommunicationLearning the elimination rhythms of our babies means no diapers, deeper possibilities for bonding and their increased wellbeing. This article instructs us as t
Re: [ozmidwifery] re VBAC brochures
Hi all, the reason I haven't been able to give you anymore info is that my client is away for the week. I have left her a message to get back to me asap with a phone number, email address etc. Laraine - Original Message - From: Judy Giesaitis To: Ozmidwifery (E-mail) Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] re VBAC brochures Dear All I have done a bit of research re the handouts from the OB's, Rang the college office in Sydney and was told that they were available for purchase by the OB's for them to give out the their patients "not for the general public". The receptionist said that the OB's then put their stamp/sticker onto the brochure to confirm that they have given the correct information to their patients. The office number in Melbourne is 03.9417.1699 and website is www.ranzcog.edu.au. I will keep trying take care Judy
[ozmidwifery] VBAC Pamphlet
Yesterday, when visiting one of my clients who is planning a VBAC, she showed me a pamphlet her Obs had given her (he is pro VBAC obviously). It is a new 'release' from the RCOG for women and is positive toward VBACs!! The pamphlet is quite well written, decent language generally, and points out the PROs and cons. I was impressed. Now, lets wait and see how many of the obs give them to their clients Laraine
[ozmidwifery] Stress!!!
Found this in our local motorcycle newsletter, and thought you'd enjoy a = giggle A Prayer for the Stressed Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I cannot accept, the wisdom to hide the bodies of those People I had to kill today = because they pissed me off. And also, help me to be careful of the toes I step on today as they may = be connected to the ass that I may have to kiss tomorrow. Help me always to give 100% at work 12% on Monday, 23% on Tuesday, 40 % on Wed, 20% on Thurs and 5% on = Friday. And help me to remember . when I am having a really bad day, and it = seems people are really trying to piss me off,=20 that it takes 42 muscles to frown=20 and only 4 to extend my middle finger =20 Amen. --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C29E2B.BF306F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3Dtext/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1 META content=3DMSHTML 5.50.4134.600 name=3DGENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=3D#ff DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Found this in our local motorcycle = newsletter, and=20 thought you'd enjoy a giggle/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2A Prayer for the Stressed/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Grant me the serenity to accept the = things I cannot=20 change,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2The courage to change the things I = cannot=20 accept,/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2amp; the wisdom to hide the bodies of = those People=20 I had to kill today because they pissed me off./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2And also, help me to be careful of the = toes I step=20 on today as they may be connected /FONTFONT face=3DArial size=3D2to = the ass that=20 I may have to kiss tomorrow./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Help me always to give 100% at=20 work/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D212% on Monday, 23% on Tuesday, 40 % on = Wed, 20% on=20 Thurs and 5% on Friday./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2And help me to remember . when I am = having a=20 really bad day, and it seems people are really trying to piss me off,=20 /FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2that it takes 42 muscles to frown = /FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2and only 4 to extend my middle finger=20 nbsp;nbsp; /FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2/FONTnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=3DArial size=3D2Amen./FONT/DIV/BODY/HTML --=_NextPart_000_0009_01C29E2B.BF306F40-- -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Bumper stickers for ladies!
Dear Pinky, THANKYOU. I was having a miserable start to my day then read your bumper stickers and had a great laugh! I think the lack of oestrogen applied this morning. Thanks, Laraine - Original Message - From: Pinky McKay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Bumper stickers for ladies! Enjoy ! Pinky Bumper Stickers for Ladies BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL WOMAN IS HERSELFOH MY GOD, I THINK I'M BECOMING THE MAN I WANTED TO MARRY!GINGER ROGERS DID EVERYTHING FRED ASTAIRE DID, BUT SHE DID IT BACKWARDS AND IN HIGH HEELSA WOMAN IS LIKE A TEA BAG...YOU DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG SHE IS UNTIL YOU PUT HER IN HOT WATERI HAVE YET TO HEAR A MAN ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW TO COMBINE MARRIAGE AND A CAREERSO MANY MEN, SO FEW WHO CAN AFFORD MECOFFEE, CHOCOLATE, MEN ... SOME THINGS ARE JUST BETTER RICHDON'T TREAT ME ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU WOULD THE QUEENI'M OUT OF ESTROGEN AND I HAVE A GUNWARNING: I HAVE AN ATTITUDE AND I KNOW HOW TO USE ITOF COURSE I DON'T LOOK BUSY...I DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIMEDO NOT START WITH ME. YOU WILL NOT WINALL STRESSED OUT AND NO ONE TO CHOKEI CAN BE ONE OF THOSE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENS TO BAD PEOPLEHOW CAN I MISS YOU IF YOU WON'T GO AWAY?DON'T UPSET ME! I'M RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO HIDE THE BODIESAnd last but not least:IF YOU WANT BREAKFAST IN BED, SLEEP IN THE KITCHEN
[ozmidwifery] accreditation
Hi, I am currently undertaking my Masters in Mid, tackling the subject of accreditation/credentialling of independent midwives. In the light of current PI issues, and the NMAP push, I felt that all efforts at improving the 'professional image' would be positive. But, I am having great difficulty finding appropriate references. I am aware of the ACMI guidelines and work for the Community Midwifery Program of WA but need to know what 'accreditation/credentialling is available for other MWs particularly in other states,but also othercountries. Also thanks Rhonda for the ant story... I am also trying that approach of 'God I know these references are out there, please help me find them'. I have noticed a distinct lack of ants in the Library though where I spend much time so maybe I need to take up rock climbing. Thanks, all help is appreciated,Laraine.
Re: [ozmidwifery] OP babies
Hi Lois, I have also had this experience of knowing the baby was well down in the pelvis only to be told by Obs that it was never in there and I was sadly mistaken in my judgement. One happened to say these words of 'wisdom' in front of the client who promptly stated that in fact the baby was because she'd felt it too when doing her own VE under my guidance! Naturally we were both wrong then and he was still right. The great benefit to both you and N (and other clients in future) is the support from having an informed advocate/midwife there to keep the balance. Never underestimate your role in these cases because without your care and support, the experience would be a lot more traumatic. Also, you are a valuable historian, helping to piece together areas that will undoubtably be blurry for the mother. Keep up the good work, Laraine - Original Message - From: Lois Wattis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] OP babies Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this discussion on OP position during labour.It has been very beneficial to me to share and debrief in this forum, and it willalso be helpfulwhen "N" is ready to discuss and debrief - down the track.Cheers, Lois - Original Message - From: Lynne Staff To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] OP babies Another great and very enjoyable thing women can do to help is raq shaqui (belly dance). And nothing beats some heavy (energetic) rocking and rolling late in the labour too! - Original Message - From: Lois Wattis To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] OP babies Robin, you have covered this matter very clearly and accurately, which saves me the trouble of trying to do it. Optimal Fetal Positioning in pregnancy is asubject I cover with all my clients antenatally. The case which this discussion arose from unfortunately demonstrates what can still happen.This woman went to a lot of trouble to optimise her baby's position in the last month of pregnancy -- even forced herself to lie on her left side to sleep rather than back lying which she preferred. Her babywas in a lateral position (ROL) on palp and VE throughout her labour (about 48 hours latent phase). She utilised upright positioning and water throughout her labour andreached 8cm dilationwith thepresenting part at spines before the babyturned to OP and deflexed, and receded back to -1. The obstetrician/surgeon made the statement that he "didn't believe the baby was ever in the pelvis" based on the little moulding of the head - butshe was! The womanhas now been told (by the GP/ob who attended in theatre but never examined her physically) that she most definitelywill need a CS for any subsequent births based on her long slow labour, and thatthe baby (7lb 2oz) did not fitthrough. Maybe it's true.Maybe it's not. Only another labour will tell the story. It's disheartening for her and for me, but the outcome is a live,healthy baby, and Mum isrecovering extremely well. She's a gutsy girl who will, I'm sure, research her options well if and when she travels the birthjourney again. Best wishes, Lois - Original Message - From: Robin Moon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] OP babies - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:03 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] OP babies I have a question that will probably be seen as a silly one to some (but remember I am a consumer so it is my right to ask silly questions!) If one of the main reasons for cs is failure to progress and fetal malpresentation AND a common factor with both these 'reasons' is a baby that is persistently in OP ... why doesn't anyone do anything to correct this before labour? Jo, there was a large research study conducted in Sydney recently on OP positions. It concentrated on ante-natal exercises to see if they could 'move' babies into a more optimal position prior to labour. The results were a dismal failure I know a large portion of bubs are OP then turn during
[ozmidwifery] water birth
Just have to share this!I am a MIPP but did a night shift to supplement my income last night.I have just been at a waterbirth at a private hospital, 'conducted' by an OBS!!!. It will certainly help to validate the water birth option. 1/2 of me is over the moon that it was 'allowed' in the hospital , and that the obst concerned was willing to let it happen (although I suspect he now thinks he's an expert - well after all, HE's done 3 now)Although Ihad been with the labouring women, encouraging her etc, he insisted on controlling the birth himself and did not want any suggestions for optimal positioning in water etc.BUT the other half of me was SCREAMING as he did an EPIS underwater, then delivered the placenta, which came quickly and naturally within 5 minutes, under the water also. I have had a 'chat' with him and promised to send him articles on water embolus etc.as he seemed unaware of research literature and safety aspects relating to water birth. I still can't believe it and now they are going to write a policy for the procedures manual so it appears to be an option offered to those who want it. I have been asked to do an inservice for the mw's and said yes as I suspect my perspective might be preferable than an obstetric one. Sorry for rambling, night duty does that to me, cheers, Laraine
[ozmidwifery] Re:VBAC
Sorry to cause confusion with my abbreviations! Neluscs is non elective lower uterine segment Caesarean section (commonly referred to as the 'emergency Caesar. EDB is estimated date of birth as. like many others I don't like the est date of delivery. Relax Carol, our program's protocols states VBAC's are booked hospital births with mw support, and yes, you did teach me very well. Thanks for the reference. The other concern now is that the ultrasound ordered by the Dr has come back with nuchal fold translucency anomalies ... so regardless of stats, this pregnancy will now be managed by an obstetrician at the Drs and client's request and I can totally agree with their decision based on the current evidence. Thanks, Laraine
Sunday Times article
Yes I have written also, and will let you know if anything happens. Laraine, Perth
re Body and Soul article
Thanks Deb for bringing this article to my attention! I was appalled and zapped off an answer to the paper, suggesting they should also interview someone who has had a normal birth,( without the drugs, mother/baby separation, the need for O2 in the headbox in the SCN, and pethidine haze necessitating wheelchair delivery of expressed milk). I will keep you posted if they reply. No wonder some women choose medicalised birth if they see it reported in the popular press and the negatives are brushed over in half a sentence.
PI Insurance - again
To the Victorian oz'ers and anyone else interested... I have just been watching Sunrise on Channel 7 - produced in Melbourne. It had a report on the fact insurance has gone through the roof in QLD. Because coconuts can fall from the palms and injure people who then sue the local councils, all the palms are being ripped out in public places to prevent litigation - effectively changing the landscape of tropical Qld. One rafting company's insurance has gone from about $16,000 to $77,000 per year and many tourist type places/small businesses etc are going out of business due to the insurance (surprise, surprise) Is it worth contacting Sunrise and expressing the views on the fact that many MIPPs are 'going out of business' and not practising due to the insurance issue. The rep from the insurance council said it was a lawyers picnic at present and he believed Govts and community should rally to decide what can be done about the huge increase in litigation before it becomes like America. Is there an angle here to get more publicity for the plight of MWs and the birthchoices for women??? Their address is sunrise @seven.com.au.
