RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Can anyone can confirm whether it's a good idea to include a forward slash in a managed path? I've done it but I'm still concerned that although I was able to do this, it's probably just not a good idea. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Monday, 15 June 2009 9:38 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I've actually managed to achieve this by creating managed paths of groups/team1 and groups/team2 with explicit inclusion. Am I pushing my luck do you think?? Or is this perfectly legitimate? It just feels somehow dirty. :) From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Monday, 15 June 2009 9:26 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi guys, Quick question on managed paths. How do I create a site collection at the root of a managed path which uses 'wildcard inclusion'. It only seems possible using 'explicit inclusion' but then I'm unable to create site collections beneath this. How can I create the following site collection structure using the managed path of /groups? mydomain.com/groups mydomain.com /groups/team1 mydomain.com /groups/team2 Is this possible or do I have to create a web app using a host header of mydomain.com/groups? I'm sure there must be something I'm missing here. Regards, Paul From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Ajay Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 8:21 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] If you are talking sharePoint designer workflows they do get imported but don't work. What I do is after import , open the SPD workflows and just click on finish and they start working after that. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Paul Turner paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au wrote: Import/Export does have limitations. It 'skips' workflows :( they all get stripped out. Regards Paul Turner Senior Solutions Specialist M: 0412 748 168 P: 08 8238 0912 F: 08 8234 5966 A: 66 Henley Beach Rd, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ [cid:image001.png@01C9EE78.ACF1BE20] ADVANCED BUSINESS SOLUTIONS LTD This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 10:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1http://domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2http://domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi guys, Quick question on managed paths. How do I create a site collection at the root of a managed path which uses 'wildcard inclusion'. It only seems possible using 'explicit inclusion' but then I'm unable to create site collections beneath this. How can I create the following site collection structure using the managed path of /groups? mydomain.com/groups mydomain.com /groups/team1 mydomain.com /groups/team2 Is this possible or do I have to create a web app using a host header of mydomain.com/groups? I'm sure there must be something I'm missing here. Regards, Paul From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Ajay Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 8:21 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] If you are talking sharePoint designer workflows they do get imported but don't work. What I do is after import , open the SPD workflows and just click on finish and they start working after that. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Paul Turner paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au wrote: Import/Export does have limitations. It 'skips' workflows :( they all get stripped out. Regards Paul Turner Senior Solutions Specialist M: 0412 748 168 P: 08 8238 0912 F: 08 8234 5966 A: 66 Henley Beach Rd, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ [cid:image001.png@01C9ED9B.41F1F6E0] ADVANCED BUSINESS SOLUTIONS LTD This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 10:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1http://domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2http://domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
I've actually managed to achieve this by creating managed paths of groups/team1 and groups/team2 with explicit inclusion. Am I pushing my luck do you think?? Or is this perfectly legitimate? It just feels somehow dirty. :) From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Monday, 15 June 2009 9:26 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi guys, Quick question on managed paths. How do I create a site collection at the root of a managed path which uses 'wildcard inclusion'. It only seems possible using 'explicit inclusion' but then I'm unable to create site collections beneath this. How can I create the following site collection structure using the managed path of /groups? mydomain.com/groups mydomain.com /groups/team1 mydomain.com /groups/team2 Is this possible or do I have to create a web app using a host header of mydomain.com/groups? I'm sure there must be something I'm missing here. Regards, Paul From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Ajay Sent: Sunday, 14 June 2009 8:21 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] If you are talking sharePoint designer workflows they do get imported but don't work. What I do is after import , open the SPD workflows and just click on finish and they start working after that. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Paul Turner paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au wrote: Import/Export does have limitations. It 'skips' workflows :( they all get stripped out. Regards Paul Turner Senior Solutions Specialist M: 0412 748 168 P: 08 8238 0912 F: 08 8234 5966 A: 66 Henley Beach Rd, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ [cid:image001.png@01C9ED9C.CC619C80] ADVANCED BUSINESS SOLUTIONS LTD This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 10:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1http://domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2http://domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss
Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
As far as I know Content Deployment Wizard is a windows app which uses Prime API which is used by OOTB content deployment.. so wizard will also fail if OOTB fails. stsadm -o export gives same results as ContentDeploymentWizard the difference is in import where Wizard lets you retain guids etc of the object, while OOTB stsadm -import does not have a option to retain guids. There is extension written by gary Laopinte stsadm -gl import2 which lets you do preserve object identity. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Noja, Fadi fadi.n...@fahcsia.gov.auwrote: Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard ( www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O’Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. -- *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Noone *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Noja, Fadi *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it’s backup, it’s probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. -- *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Noone *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I’ve got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn’t be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi Paul There should be no problem in restoring using the stsadm backup/restore commands. If you create a site collection under a web app which already has a site collection it will allow you to deploy to a managed path. From there just run a restore I would be very surprised if it fails just ensure the user you are running it under has site collection admin rights. Regards, Nathan From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
You usually get warnings on running stsadm -o import related to permissions such as: [6/5/2009 1:57:27 PM]: Warning: User or group 16 cannot be resolved. Last time I did an import I had 30 odd warnings related to importing users or groups. Did you have any warnings/errors in your import log? Sezai. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: I’m fairly confident that’s what broke this site collection in the first place. J Not the tool’s fault necessarily but the “Include permissions” option looks like the cause of my many problems. *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Noja, Fadi *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard ( www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O’Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. -- *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Noone *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Noja, Fadi *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it’s backup, it’s probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. -- *From:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Noone *Sent:* Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM *To:* ozmoss@ozmoss.com *Subject:* Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I’ve got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn’t be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists -- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: http://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
No, nothing that stopped the import. But the (good?) thing about the content Deployment Wizard is that it doesn't stop the import over such tedious errors. ;) From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Sezai Komur Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 12:17 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] You usually get warnings on running stsadm -o import related to permissions such as: [6/5/2009 1:57:27 PM]: Warning: User or group 16 cannot be resolved. Last time I did an import I had 30 odd warnings related to importing users or groups. Did you have any warnings/errors in your import log? Sezai. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1http://domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2http://domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
I don't need to worry about workflows for this - which is great! OK. I've created the new collection and all is good. I've recreated groups manually and have decided to go with exporting subsite groups as opposed to the entire site collection. The reason for this (apart from the size) is that I want to bust the team sites out to their own site collections (hoping this is possible). I'm really starting to see why keeping your site collections small is such a good idea/ Pity about the lack of cross-site web part support. I want to attempt the following site collection structure from the old Groups collection. Groups1 Groups1/team1 Groups1/team2 .. So, just a couple of questions: - Do I still need to setsitelock for the export command? - Will the import command successfully recreate the team sites at the site collection root? Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Turner Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 12:15 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Import/Export does have limitations. It 'skips' workflows :( they all get stripped out. Regards Paul Turner Senior Solutions Specialist M: 0412 748 168 P: 08 8238 0912 F: 08 8234 5966 A: 66 Henley Beach Rd, Mile End SA 5031 E: paul.tur...@dws.com.aumailto:paul.tur...@dws.com.au W: www.dws.com.auhttp://www.dws.com.au/ [cid:image001.png@01C9EB5E.DC51A080] ADVANCED BUSINESS SOLUTIONS LTD This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of DWS Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 10:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support
RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Sezai, Reviewing the log file, the only errors/warning shown are for form views. But everything appears to be importing fine regardless. e.g. [12/06/2009 2:56:19 PM]: Progress: Exporting File groups/_catalogs/lt/Forms/AllItems.aspx. [12/06/2009 2:56:20 PM]: Warning: A Web Part or Web Form Control type could not be found, or is not registered as safe. The Web Part will still be exported. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Sezai Komur Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 12:17 PM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] You usually get warnings on running stsadm -o import related to permissions such as: [6/5/2009 1:57:27 PM]: Warning: User or group 16 cannot be resolved. Last time I did an import I had 30 odd warnings related to importing users or groups. Did you have any warnings/errors in your import log? Sezai. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Paul Noone paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.aumailto:paul.no...@ceosyd.catholic.edu.au wrote: I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. :) Not the tool's fault necessarily but the Include permissions option looks like the cause of my many problems. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard (www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizardhttp://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard) by Chris O'Brien? That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box content deployment failed. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection at the root of a managed path. e.g. domain.com/site1http://domain.com/site1 - domain.com/site2http://domain.com/site2 Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export command? None are stated. BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one. I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import. Regards, Paul Online Developer, ICT CEO Sydney From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites. However I have had it fail a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or even a search crawl). Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself. Much quicker and safer. Just make sure the site is locked at the time though. From: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM To: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools Hi all, I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web app instead? Kind regards, Paul Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-subscr...@ozmoss.com Unsubscribe: ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss-unsubscr...@ozmoss.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozmoss Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozmoss@ozmoss.commailto:ozmoss@ozmoss.com Subscribe: ozmoss-subscr
