RE: Browser scroll bars
We have this problem in IE7 and below, never been able to fix it. Works fine in IE8+, CROME etc. From: dotnetnoo...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:04:54 +0700 Subject: RE: Browser scroll bars To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Have changed the way vs generates the html In the page that hosts Silverlight I had this same issue before, all i had done was change the way vs generated that html Try making a blank SL project and copy the default layout of the generated html from that back onto you project that is having the issue and update the name of the .xap to match Sent from my Windows Phone From: Greg Keogh Sent: 27-Jun-12 8:35 To: ozSilverlight Subject: Browser scroll bars Back again ... I’m plagued by random scroll bars appearing when I resize IE containing my SL4 app which fills the window (see pic). For an hour I’ve been fiddling with width, height and overflow in the css and the html, but it only alters the symptoms slightly. Web searches find lots of complaints about this and (as usual) all of the advice is useless. Perhaps the answer is out there, but I can’t find it in all the noise. I thought I’d ask in here and see if anyone has found a definitive way of getting rid of the scroll bars. I tried dozens of combinations of adjustments of width, height and overflow without success. Greg P.S. I started with the default html page that is generated by the VS2010 project template. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight attachment: image001.png___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Web / Graphic design companies in Brisbane
Give nick a call at www.digicon.com.au they have a good team and a focus on delivery.Sent from my Windows Phone 7 From: David ConnorsSent: Monday, 18 April 2011 1:03 PMTo: ozDotNet; ozSilverlight; ozWPFSubject: Web / Graphic design companies in Brisbane Can anyone recommend any graphic designers (a firm or individual) in Brisbane that we can use to take our information architecture docs to and get a back quality images and HTML+CSS? The couple of agencies we contacted are booked up for a month or more. Ideally we want someone who is capable of producing something like this: http://www.kintek.com.au/ from an IA brief. We need availability in the short term (this week or next). Any advice/offers off list please. -- *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Dynamic assembly loading
Are you running Silverlight 4 and don't need OOB support? Simple solution is the built in application library caching. For external dlls you may need to manually create the exmap. Also I saw you mention they were c1 controls, have you used their XAPOptomiser to trim out unused code instead? I've implimented dynamic assemble loading for an application based on the navigation framework, essentially load each page from a remote dll, it is really quite fiddly to setup and I don't recommend the pain but the model of only loading the code you need as you load that page makes a lot of sence. From: g...@mira.net To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Dynamic assembly loading Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:13:46 +1100 Colin, I also suspected some sort of domino effect of dependencies was causing my DLLs to stay included in the XAP. I'm sure my DLLs are only referenced in a single project, and that project has Copy Local false. I moved the DLLs to a separate folder and referenced them there instead of under C:\Program Files (x86) as Copy Local false. I cleaned everything, ran msbuild verbose and had a look at the output. The output is contradictory. It says it found the DLLs in my folder and correctly says they a copy local false. Later it says it will copy the files from the Program Files folder and then it gets included in the xap. There is some influence over the build that I can't detect, possibly taking references from the Program Files folder when I don't expect it to. Oh well, there goes another 5 hours of mostly unpaid work. Everything doesn't work -- Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Dynamic assembly loading
Absolutely worth looking at those options, It should have been extmap, MSDN article covers it well: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd833069(VS.95).aspx Looks like C1 has an online version if you want to test their optomiser instead: http://demo.componentone.com/Silverlight/XapOptimizer/ If you or anyone is really interested in the load on demand based on the navigation framework I got all the ideas from here: http://www.davidpoll.com/2010/02/01/on-demand-loading-of-assemblies-with-silverlight-navigation-revisited-for-silverlight-4-beta/ John. From: g...@mira.net To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Dynamic assembly loading Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:12:10 +1100 John, you've mentioned some interesting subjects that I am not familiar with: application library caching and exmap; C1 XAPOptimiser. I'll run some searches on these topics. Loading by navigation might be overkill for my needs, but I would have tried to implement something like if I had complex app navigation. This app has only a handful of fixed screen views that you can jump between. I would urge myself (and everyone else) who is starting a new Silverlight app to remember right from the start that you might need to dynamically load bits of the app ... data, resources, assemblies, etc. Don't be lazy at the start, remember to bake-in some design so you can do this easily. Greg ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Silverlight Deep linking and redirections
Do you have the option to do this in IIS instead? IIS6/7 both have a simple
mechnism to do the redirect and preserve the path/parameters. Do a quick search
if this is an option, we use for the typical www redirections.
Subject: Silverlight Deep linking and redirections
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:02:40 +1000
From: simon.ham...@michaelhill.com.au
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Hi all,
Currently trying to setup some redirections on a Silverlight site that uses
deep linking. I’m attempting to do this via a 301 redirect in the via the
Global.asax.
The issue is that the deep linking (anchors) gets lost with the redirection.
Eg. Say we are attempting to redirect http://www.abc.com.au to
http://www.abc.com. Attempting to navigate to http://www.abc.com.au/#screen is
redirecting to the default page of http://www.abc.com rather than
http://www.abc.com/#screen .
I can’t see that the deep link (anchor) part is available from Global.asax,
meaning I can’t use it in the redirect. My redirection code in global.asax
looks like this:-
protected void Application_BeginRequest(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
if
(HttpContext.Current.Request.Url.ToString().ToLower().Contains(www.abc.com.au))
{
HttpContext.Current.Response.Status =
301 Moved Permanently;
HttpContext.Current.Response.AddHeader(Location,
Request.Url.ToString().ToLower().Replace(
www.abc.com.au,
www.abc.com));
}
}
Has anyone had experience with this or can point me in the right direction?
Cheers
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RE: Silverlight Deep linking and redirections
I'm havn't tested the anchor Simon, pretty easy to test for you tonight if you
like. Back to your solution to the problem, are you getting the anchor in your
Request.Url.ToString()?
Good post here from Rick explaining ASP.NET paths:
http://www.west-wind.com/weblog/posts/132081.aspx
1st check the anchor is being set in that location header, fiddler is an
awesome tool to check this, 2nd I guess check that this technique (301
redirect) supports anchors in all browsers.
John.
Subject: RE: Silverlight Deep linking and redirections
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:28:54 +1000
From: simon.ham...@michaelhill.com.au
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Thanks John,
Do you know if this method will preserve the anchor (eg. #screen) or only the
path/parameters?
My current method preserves the path/parameters, but not the anchor.
Simon.
From: John OBrien [mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 11:09 AM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: Silverlight Deep linking and redirections
Do you have the option to do this in IIS instead? IIS6/7 both have a simple
mechnism to do the redirect and preserve the path/parameters. Do a quick search
if this is an option, we use for the typical www redirections.
Subject: Silverlight Deep linking and redirections
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:02:40 +1000
From: simon.ham...@michaelhill.com.au
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Hi all,
Currently trying to setup some redirections on a Silverlight site that uses
deep linking. I’m attempting to do this via a 301 redirect in the via the
Global.asax.
The issue is that the deep linking (anchors) gets lost with the redirection.
Eg. Say we are attempting to redirect http://www.abc.com.au to
http://www.abc.com. Attempting to navigate to http://www.abc.com.au/#screen is
redirecting to the default page of http://www.abc.com rather than
http://www.abc.com/#screen .
I can’t see that the deep link (anchor) part is available from Global.asax,
meaning I can’t use it in the redirect. My redirection code in global.asax
looks like this:-
protected void Application_BeginRequest(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
if
(HttpContext.Current.Request.Url.ToString().ToLower().Contains(www.abc.com.au))
{
HttpContext.Current.Response.Status =
301 Moved Permanently;
HttpContext.Current.Response.AddHeader(Location,
Request.Url.ToString().ToLower().Replace(
www.abc.com.au,
www.abc.com));
}
}
Has anyone had experience with this or can point me in the right direction?
Cheers
Simon Hammer.
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Cross framework control development - Silverlight 4 and Phone 7
Guys, any experiences or suggestions for developing a Silverlight control that you'd like to run on both Silverlight 4 and Phone 7? Having looked at it currently we are planning to: Have two Solutions, A Silverlight 4 and a Phone 7, replicate projects, same namespaces but different assembly names. Have all the code in the Silverlight 4 solution / projects. Phone 7 projects will have code files added as a link to the SL4 files. For the core anything not compatible with Phone 7 surround with #if !WINDOWS_PHONE Break apart anything really specific into different projects, simply don't have them in the Phone or Silverlight4 solution. Eg specific drop target feature for Silverlight4 only Major issue we see with this is that you can easily add something to the Silverlight4 solution that will break the Phone7 solution, looking at a build server that would build both solutions and report these errors quickly. Thoughts? ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight?
Paul, Apple essentially stopped anything but Web or ObjectiveC with their change to the TOU earlier this year. You can no longer use Adobe's products or .Net to create great iPhone apps. John. From: subscripti...@theglavs.com To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:32:15 +1000 Oh and given it’s a Silverlight list, feel free to contact me directly on glav AT aspalliance.com so we don’t pollute this list with non SL related stuff. - Glav From: Paul Glavich [mailto:subscripti...@theglavs.com] Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 6:31 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: Hijack: iPhone dev - was RE: Who is using Silverlight? We have a need in our company to come up with a quick cost estimate on iPhone and iPad app development. As a .Net dev, what can this list recommend for iPhone dev and in particular what is a typical general ramp up time. Monotouch is an obvious choice but am worried about its ability to be accepted in the app marketplace. - Glav From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 1:33 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Greg, I think once Windows Mobile 7 hits (and the inevitable quick succession of point releases) Silverlight will start to take off and (finally) begin the journey towards being a prominent target for business application. I’m sure we all feel the mobile application movement hasn’t been realised yet*; we’re still only in the foothills of that dream; but Silverlight is such a compelling platform because it extends existing .NET skillsets rather than requiring developers to climb a vertical learning curve. Where I work is already developing iPhone applications (mainly for customer gimmick, riding the gadget wave) though there has been talk about long term projects using Silverlight on Windows Mobile phones. I would argue that business should definitely consider using the tools available now to develop Silverlight apps for Windows Mobile. The tools appear very mature even at this early stage; hopefully a sign that Microsoft are taking special care to get this right. It all looks exciting to me, even from my WPF world. Carl. * iPhone users would probably argue against this, but there’s more to mobile than iPhones, iPads, and Apple Carl Scarlett Senior .NET/WPF Developer, UX Designer - Genesis Team IT Applications Delivery | Bankwest A: Level 5, 199 Hay Street | Perth | Western Australia | 6004 P: (08) 9449 8703 M: 0408 913 870 E: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Greg Harris g...@harrisconsultinggroup.com Sent: Tuesday, 27 July 2010 10:22 AM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Perry, Thanks for that, I am more focused here on examples of true business applications. Not that video presentation can not be a true business application. Yes there are some in the showcase. But I am thinking more about things like company X developed a Silverlight add in to their line of business application allowing remote data entry or whatever. That is applications that are NOT using all the Silverlight UI wizardry! I feel that there is a real perception problem out there, you have to use all the Silverlight UI wizardry, even for simple line of business applications. Also, if possible, looking for more local stuff. Thanks Greg On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Perry Stathopoulos psta...@gmail.com wrote: Well you have NetFlix on demand in the US that uses Silverlight exclusively for their online streaming. The Beijing and Vancouver Olympics were using Silverlight exclusively for NBC and CTV networks in US and Canada respectively. You then have the showcase here to take a look at: http://www.silverlight.net/showcase/ From: Greg Harris Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:31 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Who is using Silverlight? Hi Everybody, I am putting together a presentation on Silverlight for managers, basically a “why you should not be afraid of using this technology”. There is one area that I am missing information on, that is who is using Silverlight. Question for the group: • Who is using Silverlight in Australia? / Overseas? • What for? • Is there public information available about the project? My interest is more focused on real business applications rather than just cute show off the user interface technology. Thanks Greg Harris ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released. aspx Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 + It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :) _ From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph [n...@builttoroam.com] Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4 Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know what I'd prefer. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4 Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits at once. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote: Yuppers On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is? On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com wrote: Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for Silverlight 4 itself! Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Silverlight 4 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download. Vinay -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML Hey Ross, Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big framework - so chaning it isn't an option. Cheers, Jordan. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win. You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming the legacy permits. I just tried it out for fun. I have two divs, one with a SL app and one with a html button. On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in the html div with the time from the server. The SL app definitely didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things that didn't change. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would probably make it look a bit funny. JAK From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn. The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control
RE: How to hack Expression Blend.
Does Expression Encoder fall into the same bucket? Is it possible to write plugins / extensions to the UI? What I've always wanted to do is create a Silverlight host within encoder, allow for all the richness of encoder to record a Silverlight application in full quality and with automation hooks. I'm aware of the encoder SDK to essentially do command line encoding, but I'm wondering about extending the WPF app itself. Does encoder even support the admin command or folder? John. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2010 12:05 PM To: ozSilverlight; carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au; jo...@follesoe.no Cc: David Pugmire Subject: RE: How to hack Expression Blend. I love where this is going :) I think agreement is there around what you're saying. I think ideally the end point for the extensibility is that having the full control over the PropertyGrid area for My control is the ideal shared goal. In that if I'm engaged to work with customer and they have existing developers and my role is to fix the UI related issues with a given project, I'd like to walk in with the ability to aggregate existing controls (whether Microsoft or 3rd party), style them and then at the same time provide some level of locked down control which essentially Do not touch unless you know what you're doing design wise to help protect developer art from creeping into my SL/WPF mona-lisa :) That or if you provided custom 3rd party controls into an existing project you'd like to tidy up the way its used etc without exposing the full metadata for the control (at times having the .design extension to a project isn't always available given you'd impact the existing code base in a more aggressive manner than allowed). anyway we can go deeper if you want :) just name when/where the next software review is :) hehe From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Peter Blois [pete...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:48 PM To: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au; ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com; jo...@follesoe.no Cc: David Pugmire Subject: RE: How to hack Expression Blend. Yes, but in order to do this though we need to define what the extensibility scenarios need to be, define the APIs, lock them down (so we don’t break extensions between releases), then document them. Doesn’t seem too hard except that everyone seems to be looking for completely different extensibility points and we can’t afford to lock down every API we have. We’re slowly making progress and hoping that the limited hackability that’s in there now will help us define the scenarios and goals when we do start in earnest. From: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [mailto:carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 5:26 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com; jo...@follesoe.no; Peter Blois Cc: David Pugmire Subject: RE: How to hack Expression Blend. Awesome. Is there any plans to support extensibility in Expression for future releases? Love Snoop and Rooler by the way! Carl. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Peter Blois pete...@microsoft.com Sent: Wednesday, 7 April 2010 1:38 AM To: Jonas Follesø jo...@follesoe.no; ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Cc: David Pugmire da...@microsoft.com Subject: RE: How to hack Expression Blend. My earlier response bounced and I forgot to resend ☹ Just to call out the official messaging around this- the Blend addin APIs are completely unsupported and very prone to breaking between releases, with service packs, etc. But if you’re curious about poking around, a good starting point would be to take a look at the PrototypingPackage class in Microsoft.Expression.Prototyping.HostEnvironment.dll using Reflector. You should be able to get things into the scene using the selection service which will give you access to SceneNodes (or SceneElements), from which you can get the ModelItem (SceneNodeModelItem) which allows you to use the documented ModelItem extensibility APIs available to artboard adorners and such. There’s also some interesting techniques herehttp://geekswithblogs.net/tkokke/archive/2010/04/01/building-a-ldquorealrdquo-extension-for-expression-blend.aspx which could be useful. Again, none of this is fully supported! From: Jonas Follesø [mailto:jo...@follesoe.no] Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 11:54 PM To: ozSilverlight Cc: Peter Blois; David Pugmire Subject: Re: How to hack Expression Blend. Interesting approach Scott, thanks for sharing! Did some Blend hacking back in 2008 to do the Colorful addin (http://colorful.codeplex.com/), and at the time extensibility was fairly limited. It looks like this is at least a bit better (hopefully we'll have some
RE: Create a child for a UserControl?
I use the Parts and States model with a generic.xaml template if you want/need a default style. Control.cs inheriting from Control or ContentControl then in the constructor if you want to wire up a generic template you do the DefaultStyleKey = typeof (MyClass); Then override onapplytemplate() and wire up the parts. Is this what you're after? From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 2:47 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Create a child for a UserControl? Hi Scott, I did try this once, and while I still think it's possible I failed. In the end I created a new UserControl using the template, and copied my code across. It was relatively simple. Carl. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net Sent: Wednesday, 24 March 2010 12:40 PM To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Create a child for a UserControl? Q. Does anyone know if you can instantiate a Control into a raw UserControl class, in that if you File-New-MyClass and then inherit UserControl. How does one new-up a Grid/Panel etc within the construct of that class? (Given it has no MyClass.Children) I know you can do it if do MyClass.xaml.cs via that approach, but interested to know of an alternative approach? Scott. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and may not be authentic. If you have any doubts as to the contents please telephone to confirm. This electronic transmission including any attachments is intended only for those to whom it is addressed. It may contain copyright material or information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure by law. Any claim to privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken transmission of this information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not distribute or copy this transmission and should please notify the sender. Your costs for doing this will be reimbursed by the sender. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. ___ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: xaml icons
Icons are really time consuming for a graphic designer, I like this site: http://www.iconfinder.net as it has good quality free icons with a filter to show the ones allowed for commercial use. Even an API in there J I started out thinking everything in Silverlight should be vector based XAML so it can scale to any size but found it way too difficult to create, I’m back to just using nice PNG images. That said if you get a kit of icons in a vector format then expression design should be able to convert them to XAML, when comparing filesizes remember that the xaml will be zipped. I do recommend comparing what the filesize will be in xaml vs PNG and whether you need them to scale beyond 128x128px or 64x64px size. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vishwanath Humpy Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 10:56 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: xaml icons Does anyone know of any good free or paid resource for xaml icons? I can do them myself but I'm a bit slow and don't have a graphics designer by my side. I know there are plenty of converters, as well documented here, but you do need something to convert : http://blogs.msdn.com/mswanson/pages/WPFToolsAndControls.aspx I also had hopes for this visio - xaml but it doesn't work on my machine : http://visioautomation.codeplex.com http://visioautomation.codeplex.com/ Or I am on the wrong track, perhaps icons are best left as pngs and I should just invest in an icon library such as http://www.iconshock.com/ and forget about it ? http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle? Image removed by sender. ~WRD000.jpg___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: xaml icons
We ran into trouble with animated xaml icons, we were using hundreds of these on a map and it did consume some CPU. We switched to Jose's sprite method using a series of frames as a single png image with great results. If anyone is interested I made it into a reusable control: http://deepearth.codeplex.com/sourcecontrol/network/Show?projectName=deepear th http://deepearth.codeplex.com/sourcecontrol/network/Show?projectName=deepea rthchangeSetId=37658#584181 changeSetId=37658#584181 (I really should start blogging all this stuff...) John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Madero Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 12:54 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: xaml icons When using complex vector graphics, I think you should consider not only the size, but also the CPU impact it might have. I would hope that for small icons this won't be an issue. I don't have experience in this area, but it's something I would try to test/google before going with that approach. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:25 PM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: Icons are really time consuming for a graphic designer, I like this site: http://www.iconfinder.net http://www.iconfinder.net/ as it has good quality free icons with a filter to show the ones allowed for commercial use. Even an API in there J I started out thinking everything in Silverlight should be vector based XAML so it can scale to any size but found it way too difficult to create, I'm back to just using nice PNG images. That said if you get a kit of icons in a vector format then expression design should be able to convert them to XAML, when comparing filesizes remember that the xaml will be zipped. I do recommend comparing what the filesize will be in xaml vs PNG and whether you need them to scale beyond 128x128px or 64x64px size. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vishwanath Humpy Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 10:56 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: xaml icons Does anyone know of any good free or paid resource for xaml icons? I can do them myself but I'm a bit slow and don't have a graphics designer by my side. I know there are plenty of converters, as well documented here, but you do need something to convert : http://blogs.msdn.com/mswanson/pages/WPFToolsAndControls.aspx I also had hopes for this visio - xaml but it doesn't work on my machine : http://visioautomation.codeplex.com http://visioautomation.codeplex.com/ Or I am on the wrong track, perhaps icons are best left as pngs and I should just invest in an icon library such as http://www.iconshock.com/ and forget about it ? http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/sign atureline@middle? Image removed by sender. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com image001.jpg___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: xaml icons
That is a really good point Scott, my prototypes are out of date as they were back in Silverlight2 pre-bitmap caching. I bet they would perform significantly better now. Not sure how useful jpg icons are unless you plan on knowing the exact colour/gradient of the background in advance. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 3:43 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: xaml icons Having Icons in pure vector 100% of the time is an awful waste of CPU J no matter how big/small they are in density. You should consider using caching them as bitmap at runtime per state you keep them firstly failing that convert them to pure bitmap (PNG/JPG) could also work as well, if you can get away with just JPG that is also a lot smoother and more perf gain, given there's no Alpha to deal with by Silverlight. As for XAML ICON designers, any designer you can get a hold of who specialise in Icon design (desktop illustrators etc) are fine. Converting .AI/.EPS files to XAML is an easy task given Expression Blend has import capabilities for this kind of thing aswell. If you can't get one to convert ping me as i'd be curious to see why. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:24 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: RE: xaml icons We ran into trouble with animated xaml icons, we were using hundreds of these on a map and it did consume some CPU. We switched to Jose's sprite method using a series of frames as a single png image with great results. If anyone is interested I made it into a reusable control: http://deepearth.codeplex.com/sourcecontrol/network/Show?projectName=deepear th http://deepearth.codeplex.com/sourcecontrol/network/Show?projectName=deepea rthchangeSetId=37658#584181 changeSetId=37658#584181 (I really should start blogging all this stuff...) John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Miguel Madero Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 12:54 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: xaml icons When using complex vector graphics, I think you should consider not only the size, but also the CPU impact it might have. I would hope that for small icons this won't be an issue. I don't have experience in this area, but it's something I would try to test/google before going with that approach. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:25 PM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: Icons are really time consuming for a graphic designer, I like this site: http://www.iconfinder.net http://www.iconfinder.net/ as it has good quality free icons with a filter to show the ones allowed for commercial use. Even an API in there J I started out thinking everything in Silverlight should be vector based XAML so it can scale to any size but found it way too difficult to create, I'm back to just using nice PNG images. That said if you get a kit of icons in a vector format then expression design should be able to convert them to XAML, when comparing filesizes remember that the xaml will be zipped. I do recommend comparing what the filesize will be in xaml vs PNG and whether you need them to scale beyond 128x128px or 64x64px size. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vishwanath Humpy Sent: Tuesday, 9 March 2010 10:56 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: xaml icons Does anyone know of any good free or paid resource for xaml icons? I can do them myself but I'm a bit slow and don't have a graphics designer by my side. I know there are plenty of converters, as well documented here, but you do need something to convert : http://blogs.msdn.com/mswanson/pages/WPFToolsAndControls.aspx I also had hopes for this visio - xaml but it doesn't work on my machine : http://visioautomation.codeplex.com http://visioautomation.codeplex.com/ Or I am on the wrong track, perhaps icons are best left as pngs and I should just invest in an icon library such as http://www.iconshock.com/ and forget about it ? http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/sign atureline@middle? Image removed by sender. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight -- Miguel A. Madero Reyes www.miguelmadero.com (blog) m...@miguelmadero.com image001.jpg___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Expression Blend/Sketchflow training in Brisbane on March 17.
Shane, how much is the course and how can people book? (the itts site needs some serious work) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Shane Morris (Automatic Studio) Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010 1:13 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Expression Blend/Sketchflow training in Brisbane on March 17. Hi all, quick plug for a 1-day course I'm teaching in Brisbane on March 17th. Prototyping Using Blend 3 and SketchFlow: http://www.itts.com.au/docs/tech/OUT-SCH-MS50299%20-%20Morris.pdf Cheers, Shane Shane Morris | http://www.automaticstudio.com.au/ Automatic Studio | mailto:sh...@automaticstudio.com.au sh...@automaticstudio.com.au | +61 438 818 888 ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Knowing when a custom control has actually loaded
Hey guys, I'm still having the classic issue of the loaded event firing before the visual template has been applied to the custom control. Is the only solution to manually call the ApplyTemplate on the custom controls loaded event? http://pagebrooks.com/archive/2008/11/30/tweaking-onapplytemplate-event-timi ng-in-silverlight-2.aspx John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Best floatable panel library?
Thanks Tim, yours looks very good, I was just looking for anyone's experiences. We're looking at integrating it into our DeepEarth map toolkit (http://deepearth.codeplex.com) so the Ms-PL license fits really well. I'll let you know how we go, John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 3:23 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Best floatable panel library? Telerik and some others make commercial ones as well http://tinyurl.com/slcontrols -th Tim Heuer | (602) 405-4567 | Microsoft Silverlight blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: http://twitter.com/timheuer @timheuer From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:32 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: Best floatable panel library? Hey guys any recommendations on a good library to make floating / resizable panels? Tim's one looks good: http://floatablewindow.codeplex.com/ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
Best floatable panel library?
Hey guys any recommendations on a good library to make floating / resizable panels? Tim's one looks good: http://floatablewindow.codeplex.com/ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Real time updates to and from clients
Peter, We used sockets in Silverlight2 to prototype a spatial collaboration concept. The main issues we faced were: 1. Needed to run a windows application (testing=console app, production=windows service) for both server side processing and also as a policy service. Made it hard to deploy. 2. Very raw technology, we had to deal with packets of data and worried about robustness of the server solution under heavy load. In the end we didn't move beyond the prototype but decided we need to evaluate the purchase of a socket based communication server (often used for online games). In Silverlight 3 didn't they introduce a duplex WCF service? John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gfader Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 1:33 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Real time updates to and from clients Hi All, I play around with real time updates to and from SL clients, and have figured out a couple of possibilities with Silverlight. 1. Sockets 2. Polling over WCF in SL2 or SL3 (HTTP) 3. WCF net.tcp protocol in Silverlight 4 (Polling over TCP Sockets) Anyone has some good or bad experience with them? Regarding 1. Performance 2. Ease of development 3. Security (Firewalls are not a problem) My opinion so far: 1. Sockets 1. Harder to write than calling a WCF service 2. Best option regarding performance 2. Polling over WCF (HTTP) 1. Not a nice solution regarding performance 3. WCF net.tcp protocol in Silverlight 4 (Polling over TCP Sockets) 1. Under the hood sockets, but I don't have to worry about sockets 2. Good performance Port restrictions to all of those I have seen... Your opinions? PS This guy has a nice Socket implementation for getting updates from a server http://petermcg.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/stock-list-demo-part-3/ This guy is writing about WCF net.tcp in SL 4 http://tomasz.janczuk.org/2009/11/wcf-nettcp-protocol-in-silverlight-4.html PS2 What can I do against port restrictions? .peter.gfader. http://peitor.blogspot.com/ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: NearMap in Silverlight, is that your washing on the line?
I hadn't set the MaxZoomLevel to 21 initially, now you can see the West Indies getting beaten by Australia at the Gabba ;) It's a true testament to how well deepzoom works in Silverlight, this is in effectively a 536870912x536870912 pixel image or 288 petapixels J WARNING 1: After you get used to it the old AJAX maps seem to be broken. WARNING 2: Up your data plan ;) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 6:14 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: NearMap in Silverlight, is that your washing on the line? Oh wait... I can zoom closer than before now. Must have still been downloading. Impressive resolution! I can see the hammock in my backyard. :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Stephen Price step...@perthprojects.com wrote: I like that you can't zoom in past a certain level of detail (no annoying no image tiles if you go too close). Also pretty cool how Nearmap collect their photos. Sounds like a HyperPod is essentially a flying camera. Can't find any more info on them. Wonder how they got permission to fly these things around in city airspace. :) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Jordan Knight jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote: Hey that's pretty impressive... but... You could get so busted on that :P From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 6:22 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: NearMap in Silverlight, is that your washing on the line? (just don't tell the Bing Maps team I did it) http://deepearth.soulsolutions.com.au/nearmap/ Zoom into Perth, Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide or Brisbane and see what you were doing 2 weeks ago! http://www.nearmap.com are based in Perth and are causing a stir by processing high res aerial imagery very quickly and making it free for limited commercial use. http://deepearth.codeplex.com/ is a completely open source project on codeplex, two parts to it: 1) An unrestricted map control powered by the MultiScaleImage control (DeepZoom) 2) A toolkit for the Bing Maps control including Drawing tools, navigation panels, full SQL 2008 spatial integration and much more I'm always looking for people to help with the project, were hoping to get a new release out in the next few weeks so any feedback would be awesome (get latest source) John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: NearMap in Silverlight, is that your washing on the line?
For sure, you may also want to tell people about the new Silverlight powered consumer Bing Maps site: http://www.bing.com/community/blogs/maps/archive/2009/12/02/bing-maps-adds-s treetside-enhanced-bird-s-eye-photosynth-and-more.aspx Very impressive example of silverlight3 from MSFT. John. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of David L. Campbell Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 3:37 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: NearMap in Silverlight, is that your washing on the line? Can I blog that on SilverlightCream? -Dave From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com on behalf of John OBrien Sent: Wed 12/2/2009 12:21 AM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: NearMap in Silverlight, is that your washing on the line? (just don't tell the Bing Maps team I did it) http://deepearth.soulsolutions.com.au/nearmap/ Zoom into Perth, Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide or Brisbane and see what you were doing 2 weeks ago! http://www.nearmap.com http://www.nearmap.com/ are based in Perth and are causing a stir by processing high res aerial imagery very quickly and making it free for limited commercial use. http://deepearth.codeplex.com/ is a completely open source project on codeplex, two parts to it: 1) An unrestricted map control powered by the MultiScaleImage control (DeepZoom) 2) A toolkit for the Bing Maps control including Drawing tools, navigation panels, full SQL 2008 spatial integration and much more I'm always looking for people to help with the project, were hoping to get a new release out in the next few weeks so any feedback would be awesome (get latest source) John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Our new silverlight site
Except that in this case Michael Hill are clearly using their website as a brochure and as an engaging experience not a retail store. You can’t (and I don’t imagine why you would) buy the products online. You still go into their store right? I assume that if you don’t have Silverlight installed you get a downgraded experience, most importantly a HTML page showing your nearest retail store would be a must here. If you install the plugin you get the cinematic experience bringing together the brochure and the TV ad. It’s not a site you visit every day or contribute too but if I was looking for some jews then I really like the high quality images presented. Nice use of DeepZoom and SLS, I agree that the UX could be improved by making the bottom menu either more obvious or just exposed. I also think the section videos could play as the background with the sub menu exposed, I did find myself wondering how to navigate until it finally appeared. But DeepZoom your store location map! I know this wicked new Silverlight control that could be of use ;) John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:35 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Our new silverlight site 2009/12/2 Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net Most of the research I've read / conducted around plugins + risk has constantly shown that the average user will install anything put before them provided they get access to the context of what they were seeking. 400million+ installs of Silverlight testifies to this behavior. If you use javascript you lose up to 7% of users because their browsers either don't run it, have it turned off or have McAfee/Norton/Whatever screw with my Internet experience 2009 edition installed. Let me explain that to you in another way: If you are going to sell $1 000 000 worth of stuff in a year on your site, then you will be immediately flushing $70 000 of your revenue down the can. If you're paying $ to acquire a lead, you're throwing out $7 in every $100 of your EDM budget. And I'm just talking about JS. Sending out marketing and then presenting customers with an Install button instead of a sales call to action is crazy. Don't get me wrong, SL and Flash have their place and I love kongregate.com - but as an adjunct, not an impediment to a transaction. -- David Connors (da...@codify.com) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Our new silverlight site
So now that all the banks have exposed their systems to the iphone, is there anything stoping us from making a different interface? I think a nice OOB Silverlight interface would make a nice new fad ;) Mmm where is iFiddler? -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Denny Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:06 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site I actually use the iPhone Netbank application :) Mitch Denny Chief Technology Officer Readify Pty Ltd Suite 408 LifeLabs Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 414 610 141 | E: mailto:mitch.de...@readify.net -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 10:46 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Our new silverlight site @ David Connors haha - well said, sir. the same thing applies to mgt when they want an iPhone app for their banking customers (mostly because of hype). I don't have an iPhone, and only some of my friends do. iPhone: it's just this phone, y'know? ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: ozsilverlight Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1
Thanks for your help Jose and Miguel, After confirming that I was not using the new network stack of Silverlight 3 we ended up solving the problem by adding the property: useDefaultWebProxy=false To our server side basicHttpBinding in the web.config Since I was never able to reproduce this I'm going on the report from the client that all is now fixed. I'm really looking forward to Silverlight 4 sorting out these authentication issues and I guess the lesson is we should setup a test environment with an AD authenticated proxy server to test any authenticated web applications properly. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jose Fajardo Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:56 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: ozsilverlight Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1 Hey John, Your best bet is to fiddler or charles your silverlight 3 app (sitting behind the proxy) to see what network traffic is going out and comming in (if at all). My guess is the new SL3 networking stack and how it now does url resolution (between sl2 and sl3) may be the cause. BUT again just guessing. Fiddler should point you in the right direction. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ozsilverlight-requ...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-requ...@ozsilverlight.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 December 2009 10:53 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: ozsilverlight Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1 Send ozsilverlight mailing list submissions to ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ozsilverlight-requ...@ozsilverlight.com You can reach the person managing the list at ozsilverlight-ow...@ozsilverlight.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ozsilverlight digest... Today's Topics: 1. Silverlight 3 getting 407 proxy auth errors? (John OBrien) 2. Re: Silverlight 3 getting 407 proxy auth errors? (Miguel Madero) 3. Our new silverlight site (Ross McKinnon) 4. RE: Our new silverlight site (Nick Randolph) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:39:41 +1000 From: John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au Subject: Silverlight 3 getting 407 proxy auth errors? To: 'ozSilverlight' ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Message-ID: blu121-ds17787163a92f9fe248734e3...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone had this problem before? I have a Silverlight 2 application running fine, fully upgraded to Silverlight 3 and now from behind a proxy server all my WCF requests are getting 407 errors, the old Silverlight 2 site still work fine. The client is pretty sure their proxy is using AD to authenticate access to the internet and my application is using forms authentication to allow access to the asp.net page hosting the XAP and the service has this attribute: [AspNetCompatibilityRequirements(RequirementsMode = AspNetCompatibilityRequirementsMode.Allowed)] My guess is it's something with the new network stack in Silverlight3 and authentication but I'm not finding much info and can't replicate the environment from here. Hoping someone here has seen this before. John. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/pipermail/ozsilverlight/attachments/20091130/2 d398ff1/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:47:31 +1100 From: Miguel Madero m...@miguelmadero.com Subject: Re: Silverlight 3 getting 407 proxy auth errors? To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Message-ID: 581455be0911300347n3483723cvbf459aac11a09...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Jon, For what I know by default it will use the browser's network stack unless you go out of browser or explicitly change to use the other one. However, what you're experiencing looks like symptoms of using the new stack. Check this post: http://developers.de/blogs/damir_dobric/archive/2009/08/22/soap-faults-and-n ew-network-stack-in-silverlight-3.aspx To enable it use this line of code: bool registerResult = WebRequest.RegisterPrefix(http://;, WebRequestCreator.ClientHttp); He explains the difference and the drawback, look at the last paragraph. Silverlight 3 provides the ?client HTTP stack? which, unlike the ?browser HTTP stack?, allows you to process SOAP-compliant fault messages. However, a potential problem of switching to the alternative HTTP stack is that information stored by the browser (such as authentication cookies) will no longer be available to Silverlight, and thus certain scenarios involving
RE: Our new silverlight site
Fortunately Googlebot and BingBot are both blind, deaf and dumb so most sites either comply or are never found in the first place ;) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Damian Edwards Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 1:56 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site Well in Australia it's law. The federal Disability Discrimination Act states you can't discriminate based on someone's disability. This includes websites. The body charged with enforcing this is the Australian Human Rights Commission. They use the WCAG 1.0 standard as their baseline for assessing a site's accessibility, level AA to be exact. That level states that all functions of the site must be available with scripts plug-ins disabled. So, if the site is for an Australian organisation or individual, or hosted in Australia, and the core features of your site don't work with JS or plug-ins disabled, you're breaking the law. Regards, Damian Edwards MSysDev Readify | Senior Consultant, Technical Specialist (Web) https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Damian.Edwards Microsoft MVP: ASP/ASP.NET M: 0448 545 868 | E: mailto:damian.edwa...@readify.net damian.edwa...@readify.net | C: sip:damian.edwa...@readify.net damian.edwa...@readify.net | W: http://www.readify.net/ www.readify.net From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 11:58 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Our new silverlight site I do admire that gray's online can gracefully degrade so well. But as much as we'd all like to design our sites to cater for every population, are customers even willing to pay more to have support for non-javascript users, I've found that development companies, all want to minimise development cost, to have a bigger profit cut. It's just so sad sometimes. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Tatham Oddie tat...@oddie.com.au wrote: Yahoo have a bunch of data around this. During the development of graysonline.com we decided to support non-JavaScript users because they represented a significant enough percentage of our user base. Try it - disable JS in your browser and everything will still work. Progressive enhancement is the only way to develop for the web. :) Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 213 422 7068, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: tixi.com.au - Ticketing without the dramas -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2009 11:41 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Our new silverlight site 7% where did you get that stat from? Is that 7% geo-specific? in that would say China bump that number into the higher 7 percentile bracket, meanwhile 90% of the US is in the lower 2%. Assuming its a flat 7% across all countries, now comes the potential vs reality question. In that out of that 7% what is the potential of buying / actionable customer base vis the reality of 7% of users not caring? If i said to you that i can reach 400million customers tomorrow in total, and yield say 48% return on actionable events, vs i can target 1billion tomorrow with a 48% click through, how would that change your ROI assessment? What works for Honda doesn't necessarily work for Ford is my point :) From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of David Connors [da...@codify.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:34 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Our new silverlight site 2009/12/2 Scott Barnes scott.bar...@readify.netmailto:scott.bar...@readify.net Most of the research I've read / conducted around plugins + risk has constantly shown that the average user will install anything put before them provided they get access to the context of what they were seeking. 400million+ installs of Silverlight testifies to this behavior. If you use javascript you lose up to 7% of users because their browsers either don't run it, have it turned off or have McAfee/Norton/Whatever screw with my Internet experience 2009 edition installed. Let me explain that to you in another way: If you are going to sell $1 000 000 worth of stuff in a year on your site, then you will be immediately flushing $70 000 of your revenue down the can. If you're paying $ to acquire a lead, you're throwing out $7 in every $100 of your EDM budget. And I'm just talking about JS. Sending out marketing and then presenting customers with an Install button instead of a sales call to action is crazy. Don't get me wrong, SL and Flash have their place and I love kongregate.comhttp://kongregate.com - but as an adjunct, not an impediment to a transaction. -- David Connors
Silverlight 3 getting 407 proxy auth errors?
Has anyone had this problem before? I have a Silverlight 2 application running fine, fully upgraded to Silverlight 3 and now from behind a proxy server all my WCF requests are getting 407 errors, the old Silverlight 2 site still work fine. The client is pretty sure their proxy is using AD to authenticate access to the internet and my application is using forms authentication to allow access to the asp.net page hosting the XAP and the service has this attribute: [AspNetCompatibilityRequirements(RequirementsMode = AspNetCompatibilityRequirementsMode.Allowed)] My guess is it's something with the new network stack in Silverlight3 and authentication but I'm not finding much info and can't replicate the environment from here. Hoping someone here has seen this before. John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: $10 million with Bing Maps and the NAVTEQ LBS Challenge
This year is the first time you can submit a web based application. Bing Maps is powered by Navteq data and they are really looking forward to people creating something amazing with the new Silverlight control. Digital globe who supply the satellite images for Bing are a major sponsor also. The only criteria is it must have a location aspect to the application, listen to the interview for all the details but yes Silverlight 3 / 4 sounds like an awesome platform to build on. However if you do use one of the 3 sponsored devices and make the first cut you will be sent a phone to use. Although Bing doesn't currently have a specific mobile control it does have all the services required for you to use in a custom mobile application. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of David Burela Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 1:43 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: $10 million with Bing Maps and the NAVTEQ LBS Challenge can you actually use the bing maps silverlight control in the competition? I had a look at the competition rules. it said that you had to use the NAVTEQ maps + it had to run on one of their official devices, which were 3 windows mobile phones (and silverlight doesn't run on them) David Burela Readify | Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 (0)407 363 860 | E: david.bur...@readify.net| W: http://www.readify.net/ www.readify.net _ From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Saturday, 14 November 2009 12:44 PM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: $10 million with Bing Maps and the NAVTEQ LBS Challenge Fellow Silverlight devs, As you know the new Bing Maps Silverlight control was released this week and now I have the exciting news that you can use it in a web application to win your share of $10,000,000 with the NAVTEQ Location Based Solution comp. Details are mainly focused around the mobile phone entries (where is Silverlight for mobile when we need it?) so I did an interview with Laura from NAVTEQ to get the details for us web developers. http://www.soulsolutions.com.au/Blog/tabid/73/EntryId/638/Win-your-share-of- 10-000-000-with-Bing-Maps-and-Navteq.aspx Any questions feel free to ask J John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
$10 million with Bing Maps and the NAVTEQ LBS Challenge
Fellow Silverlight devs, As you know the new Bing Maps Silverlight control was released this week and now I have the exciting news that you can use it in a web application to win your share of $10,000,000 with the NAVTEQ Location Based Solution comp. Details are mainly focused around the mobile phone entries (where is Silverlight for mobile when we need it?) so I did an interview with Laura from NAVTEQ to get the details for us web developers. http://www.soulsolutions.com.au/Blog/tabid/73/EntryId/638/Win-your-share-of- 10-000-000-with-Bing-Maps-and-Navteq.aspx Any questions feel free to ask J John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: New release of the Silverlight Bing Maps control
Awesome list Craig, I noticed a few minor corrections below (target stuff)
DeepEarth Toolkit has now been upgraded J
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Craig Dunn
Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 8:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: New release of the Silverlight Bing Maps control
p.s. my changelog to get it working consisted of:
updating my project to SL3
adding to XAML
m:Map Name=VEMap CredentialsProvider=you know what
m:Map Name=minimap CredentialsProvider=you know what
using Microsoft.VirtualEarth.MapControl;
becomes
using Microsoft.Maps.MapControl;
LocationRect targetBounds = VEMap.GetBoundingRectangle(VEMap.TargetView);
becomes
LocationRect targetBounds = VEMap.BoundingRectangle;
VEMap.TargetView.Center
becomes
VEMap.TargetCenter
VEMap.TargetView.ZoomLevel
becomes
VEMap.TargetZoomLevel
SomeLayer.AddChild(mp)
becomes
SomeLayer.Children.Add(mp)
MapLayer.MapPositionProperty
becomes
MapLayer.PositionProperty
MapLayer.MapPositionMethodProperty
becomes
MapLayer.PositionOriginProperty
PositionMethod.Center
becomes
PositionOrigin.Center
examples:
el.SetValue(MapLayer.MapPositionProperty,
VEMap.ViewportPointToLocation(pos));
becomes
el.SetValue(MapLayer.PositionProperty, VEMap.ViewportPointToLocation(pos));
cel.SetValue(MapLayer.MapPositionMethodProperty, PositionMethod.Center);
becomes
cel.SetValue(MapLayer.PositionOriginProperty, PositionOrigin.Center);
The OSM tile source described back here
http://pietschsoft.com/post/2009/03/Virtual-Earth-Silverlight-Overlay-OpenS
treetMap2c-OpenAerialMap-and-Yahoo-Map-Imagery-using-Custom-Tile-Layers%21.a
spx continues to work
public class OpenStreetMapTileSource :
Microsoft.Maps.MapControl.TileSource
{
public OpenStreetMapTileSource()
: base(http://tile.openstreetmap.org/{2}/{0}/{1}.png
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%7b2%7d/%7b0%7d/%7b1%7d.png )
{
}
public override Uri GetUri(int x, int y, int zoomLevel)
{
return new Uri(String.Format(this.UriFormat, x, y, zoomLevel));
}
}
The minimap described here
http://www.earthware.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/03/virtual-earth-silverlight
-minimap-tutorial/ also continues to work. Does that count as TWO Map
Sessions since I have had to enter credentials for both the main and the
'mini'map? Way to double your apparent usage while providing a nice UI
experience!
cd
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Craig Dunn
craig.d...@conceptdevelopment.net wrote:
Yeah - that's fine if you are using Bing Maps data... but are they now
implying that if you use the silverlight _control_ as a host for OSM map
tiles (for example) you still need a key?
How do 'session counts' etc apply if you are using the SL control with open
source data? Does MS expect 'payment' for these uses of the control?
Curious...
cd
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David Burela david.bur...@readify.net
wrote:
although one thing that IS annoying, is that it looks like you now need a
bing maps key in order to use the control...
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of David Burela
[david.bur...@readify.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 11 November 2009 9:30 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: New release of the Silverlight Bing Maps control
For anyone who hasn't seen the announcement yet today, they have released a
new version of the silverlight bing maps control
http://www.microsoft.com/maps/
Changes to the SDK can be seen here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee681889.aspx
the interesting one for me, is the inclusion of the MapItemsControl class,
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.maps.mapcontrol.mapitemsco
ntrol.aspx
It allows for databinding to a map layer now, meaning I can get rid of the
custom stuff on my blog :-)
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RE: VS2010 SL2
Tim, have you tried / is it possible to have VS2008 still configured for SL2 and VS2010 for SL3 on the same machine? We're still waiting for corporate clients to roll out SL3 updates, once that happens I'll wipe all knowledge of SL2 but until then From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer Sent: Friday, 23 October 2009 7:36 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: VS2010 SL2 Generally not supported. Tim Heuer | (602) 405-4567 | im: mailto:t...@timheuer.com t...@timheuer.com blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: http://twitter.com/timheuer @timheuer From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gfader www.ssw.com.au Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:17 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: VS2010 SL2 Hi Tim Not yet (in beta2)? OR generally not supported? .peter.gfader. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer Sent: Friday, 23 October 2009 3:04 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: VS2010 SL2 Silverlight 2 development is not supported in VS2010. -th Tim Heuer | (602) 405-4567 | im: mailto:t...@timheuer.com t...@timheuer.com blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: http://twitter.com/timheuer @timheuer From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:34 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: VS2010 SL2 Hey all, I was playing around tonight with VS2010 and following Tim's post here (http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/05/20/silverlight-and-visual-studio-2 010-beta.aspx) I thought I'd try to get the multi-target support working. No go, I installed SL2 SDK and then Installed SL3 SDK (and got the option to uninstall or repair. I selected repair). I then uninstalled Silverlight runtime so I could install the Silverlight 3.0 Developer runtime. Tried to create a Silverlight 3.5 (as in .net 3.5) project, and still only have the option to select a Silverlight 3.0 app. So Silverlight 2.0 in the dropdown. any other suggestions? cheers, Stephen ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Determining what is causing high CPU usage
Thanks guys, great links and ideas! It looks like the MultiScaleImage control is being redrawn on every redraw of anything in the application, regardless of regions. Im still on SL2 here at work but will test SL3 tonight and do some tracing with xperf as per your post Seema. EnableRedrawRegions is really helpful, thanks for that. John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Seema Ramchandani Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 2:44 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Determining what is causing high CPU usage Try this public profiler: http://blogs.msdn.com/seema/archive/2008/10/08/xperf-a-cpu-sampler-for-silve rlight.aspx EnableRedrawRegions is a good first hit make sure that the ProgressBar is only triggering itself to be redrawn (not the MSI). Ø Silverlight Spy showed an infinite amount of LayoutUpdated being fired, but I cant seem to get more information. Interesting, as this is not expected. Hmm, if the issue is really the progressbar, then a couple of things: - The progressbar will take less cycles if other things are happening. As in, the animation takes 40% CPU and happens at 60fps because nothing else is going on on your screen. - If even with the above, you really want to lower the CPU: o Add the indeterminate progressbar to the tree when it is actually shown o another idea, but should be used carefully, is, if only the progressbar is should be painting, to switch the maxframerate to 15 and then switch it back to 60fps when the progressbar is gone. -Seema From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross Jempson Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:30 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Determining what is causing high CPU usage I was contemplating a somewhat similar thing a few days ago. Except I want to look for potential memory leaks. I have used a couple of tools in the past, including the Ants profiler. However I discovered that the Silverlight framework doesnt implement a profiling interface as per the full framework. http://www.red-gate.com/supportcenter/Content.aspx?p=ANTS%20Performance%20Pr ofiler http://www.red-gate.com/supportcenter/Content.aspx?p=ANTS%20Performance%20P rofilerc=knowledgebase\ANTS_Performance_Profiler\KB200809000306.htm c=knowledgebase\ANTS_Performance_Profiler\KB200809000306.htm It is a bit of a tangent, but you could also try an idea suggested on this list by Seema Ramchandani. You can set param name=EnableRedrawRegions value=true / in your plugin object. When I did this I was surprised to notice that a background image I hadnt considered was being constantly redrawn when a unrelated animation was in progress on the same screen. From: John OBrien [mailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2009 11:41 AM To: 'ozSilverlight' Subject: Determining what is causing high CPU usage Hey guys does anyone have a good technique to determine exactly what is causing high CPU usage inside a Silverlight control? The example today was a ProgressBar with IsIndeterminate set to true causes a MultiScaleImage control to go crazy (40-70% CPU). Even worse is even after you hide the progressbar it never stops. MultiScaleImage Source=GeneratedImages/dzc_output.xml / ProgressBar x:Name=progress IsIndeterminate=True Width=400 Height=25 / My current solution is simple trial and error to find the cause, and then remove the offending control. Silverlight Spy showed an infinite amount of LayoutUpdated being fired, but I cant seem to get more information. Any good tools out there? Ive found ProcessExplorer is awesome for monitoring the CPU usage / memory. John. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Multitouch Silverlight3
I had a HP touchsmart Tx2 tablet for a few weeks, we extended the concepts from the codeplex project to support swipe and a touch and hold gesture. For the keynote demo we had DeepEarth using a pinch zoom and drag pan (both redundant as the MSI somehow gets these out of the box anyway but valuable to build anyway) as well as a touch hold to change map modes, 2 finger = hybrid, 3 = road, 4 = aerial. The coolest thing was a two finger swipe to bring in the digitizer and then put it away. I also played with 3 finger swipe to hide/show minimap etc. The conclusion was it fun to play with but a tonne of work to get pretty average results. You seriously get a frame of touch information and tonnes of false points, I spent an entire night trying to throttle the results and something reasonable to turn into gestures. This was with very beta drivers on a very affordable device so hopefully it gets much better. One lesson I learnt was that a multitouch device could be anything from 2 touches up, the demo used the 22 Touchsmart's only supporting 2 points in the driver so all the 3 and 4 point combos didn't work. What we need is for really robust gestures to be created for Silverlight3, given these it would be easy to make these behaviours for set controls or use in a custom control. I did like the 2 finger swipe to show/hide a panel, play with our demo here: http://multitouch.soulsolutions.com.au/ Ping me if you want the code. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of David Burela Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2009 3:16 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Multitouch Silverlight3 Are you going to be introducing any multi touch aspects into the deep earth controls? You mentioned on your blog that you showed the feature at TechEd (but i couldn't make it this year) David Burela Readify | Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 (0)407 363 860 | E: david.bur...@readify.net| W: http://www.readify.net/ www.readify.net _ From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien [j...@soulsolutions.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 26 August 2009 8:53 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Multitouch Silverlight3 Hey guys, anyone working with Multitouch in Silverlight3 / Windows7? I have to do a bunch of stuff this week / weekend and I'm looking for good resources. The key is that SL3 reports the multitouch events but you don't get gestures, you have to code that bit yourself and I'd like to cheat ;) I have Tim's intro post: http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/07/30/silverlight-3-multi-touch-introd uction-fundamentals-basicsaspx http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/07/30/silverlight-3-multi-touch-intro duction-fundamentals-basics.aspx This basic behaviour project on codeplex which I could extend: http://multitouch.codeplex.com/ This library (compiled dll) on codeplex that look promising: http://miria.codeplex.com/ Any suggestions? John. _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
WCF information panel
I want to build an informational panel for Silverlight to report on exactly what is happening with WCF data requests, any suggestions? The idea is a power user could expand this panel to identify things like: . Outstanding requests . Failed requests + reason . Executing time . number of records returned . size of the data I'm developing a map application where we show a tonne of data from many sources the admin configures. Currently we give them no feedback and swallow the errors. You may recall I've asked about reporting Silverlight errors back to the server previously, this could extend that with more informative data. In development we rely on Fiddler to get this info. I've done something like this in JavaScript before (actually throttling requests) by overriding the AJAX HTTPRequest method so this would all happen without changes to the actual web service calls. Any ideas on where to start in Silverlight? Has anyone done something similar already? John. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: animation cpu usage
What would we do without you Shane? Who knew F4 went full screen in blend. BTW, just watching ABC iview on my new laptop (P9550), 80% CPU usage across both cores, almost burnt my legs. Guess Flash has some CPU usage issues of its own. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Shane Morris Sent: Monday, 21 September 2009 7:57 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: animation cpu usage Video of Jose's sprite technique at Remix: Watch Remix Video: The Next Level of Creativity with Expression Blend 3 http://www.microsoft.com/australia/remix/videos/default.aspx?vid=v24 About 10min in. Shane From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Monday, 21 September 2009 1:43 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: animation cpu usage Ross, I used Jose Fajardo's sprite concept from Remix to change a high cpu repeating animation to a simple sprite (set of frames in one image, repeating animation is just translate x). It may not be ideal but for me it took the animation down to 1-2% cpu. His blog is here, but I'm not sure if he ever posted about it: http://www.cynergysystems.com/blogs/page/josefajardo John. From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross Jempson Sent: Monday, 21 September 2009 12:06 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: animation cpu usage Hi there, This is an old question I posted when the list was down. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can minimise cpu usage when using a storyboard/animation(s) that repeat constantly. To explain the scenario, I have a screen that has a background that sort of looks like a night sky. There are say 100 little stars (the same png scattered around with various sizes). I animate the opacity / ScaleX / ScaleY of a random png every 1 second to create a twinkling effect that keeps running the whole time you view the screen. The effect is very nice, however I notice it hogs the cpu. I have tried 2 implementations. In the first implementation I created a storyboard with 3 animations. I created a timer that fired every 1 second, and on the fly set the animations to target one of the pngs randomly (stopping and starting the storyboard each time). This was consuming on average 80% of my CPU. I created a second implementation to see if I could improve the situation. In the second implementation I decided to build up the storyboard in code up front. I create 40 animations up front targeting random pngs, each with a begintime 1 second later than the previous and add them all to the one master storyboard. I then just run that storyboard over and over. However, this approach made no difference to the cpu being consumed. Cheers. ___ ozsilverlight mailing list ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
RE: Toolkit style manager
I'm not using the datagrid Stephen but was having CPU utilisation issues and had to do these two things, they may also work for you. Set mode to OneTime: Grid x:Name=LayoutRoot Theming:ImplicitStyleManager.ResourceDictionaryUri=Themes/DeepEarthDark.xam l Theming:ImplicitStyleManager.ApplyMode=OneTime And then after my items were bound had to manually refresh in code using: ImplicitStyleManager.Apply(LayoutRoot); John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 2:15 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Toolkit style manager Hey all, Has anyone noticed that the style manager styles in the toolkit don't seem to be applied to controls in the details pane of a datagrid? I'm using Silverlight 2 with the July toolkit. Not tested it out with Silverlight 3 yet. cheers, Stephen _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Do we upgrade to Silverlight3 on our dev machines?
It's getting late on Friday I know but did I miss a post about what happens when we upgrade to Silverlight3 as developers? It's awesome that the runtime is backwards compatible so existing sites won't break but... 1) Can we still target Silverlight2 in Visual Studio? 2) What happens to our corporate clients without admin rights, do we need to get their IT guys to update? John. Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed.
Sounds great Scott. Let us know when the 8th is confirmed for Brisbane and I'll help spread the word - not very far away at all. John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2009 4:22 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Silverlight/Expression Aussie Tour Thoughts welcomed. Hey All, I'm coming home for a month and was thinking of doing an Aussie Tour of Silverlight/Expression 3 and answer any questions around our products futures etc. The below are the dates I'm thinking and was keen to get folks in each city to provide feedback around the said dates. 08th JulyBrisbane 22nd July Perth 23rd JulyMelbourne. 27th JulySydney 28th JulyCanberra. The material will be some exciting stuff that you guys haven't seen yet, and can't wait to show you some of the goodness we've been cooking up here in Redmond. Does this sit well with all? -- Scott Barnes Rich Platforms Product Manager http://www.microsoft.com/ Microsoft Corp. | Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog | Office: +1 (425) 5382410 X82410 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mossyblog twitter.com/mossyblog | MSN: mailto:spidaw...@hotmail.com spidaw...@hotmail.com P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
Silverlight limited to 2 simultaneous connections?
Anyone know why Silverlight2 seems to be restricted to 2 simultaneous requests only? I have changed the browser settings to allow 8, put in 4 different domains to allow for 8 and even used firefox that supports 8 natively with no luck. Is there a configuration somewhere at the plugin level to change this? Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Silverlight limited to 2 simultaneous connections?
I think you may be onto something Jordan. The application that has brought this to my attention is not server restricted but I appreciate your comments Caleb, they are great general suggestions but it seems that Silverlight is ignoring them. Take a look at: http://soulsolutions.com.au/silverlight/blacklight/ It is rendering 6 Bing map controls inside a single Silverlight application. The tiles are coming from 4 different domains and yet only two request at a time are coming from Silverlight. I'm using IE8. The performance is horrible, you have to wait for each DeepZoom image to complete before the next one starts. Fiddler confirms sets of 2 requests. -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Monday, 22 June 2009 9:22 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Silverlight limited to 2 simultaneous connections? I'd have thought it would be a lowest common denominator problem myself... the crappest browser can do 2 at once so thats what Silverlight supports to maintain the best compat? -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Jenkins Sent: Monday, 22 June 2009 9:13 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Silverlight limited to 2 simultaneous connections? John - generally that's a server restriction, and something that has been well documented on for IIS as well as various strategies in the HTML communities have been developed to help get around this. For IIS its important when you are using IIS as an application / middle teir / wcf server with an IIS front end web server. In that scenario you still want the limitation from the front end server to the clients, but you want to increase the allowed cnnection from the app server to the UI server. The more general html/web strategies involve breaking you resources in to various sub domains/servers. Images.domain /css/js/html can be placed on various domains to increase your simultanious connections from 2 to 8. The other strategy is to increase individual payloads and decrease number of requests. This plays out by combining multiple images on to a single image and the using css and css sprite support to slice and lay out the images client side. Take a look at the bing.com home page for an exaple of that. The blurry boxes are actually attached to the main image. Hope that helps! (I'm going to blame all typo's on my phone's intelli-type and the complete lack of a spell check :) Caleb Jenkins ca...@improvingenterprises.com m: 469.867.4552 | b: developingUX.com [*] Improving - It's what we do! (send from Windows Mobile 6) From: John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 2:16 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Silverlight limited to 2 simultaneous connections? Anyone know why Silverlight2 seems to be restricted to 2 simultaneous requests only? I have changed the browser settings to allow 8, put in 4 different domains to allow for 8 and even used firefox that supports 8 natively with no luck. Is there a configuration somewhere at the plugin level to change this? Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozs ilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscribe @ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com
RE: Designing a Silverlight control - DeepEarth
Thanks Jordan, will check it out. BTW codeplex automatically creates sub-domains for all projects now if you prefer: http://eventr.codeplex.com/ And you also can embed Silverlight into your wiki pages (host elsewhere, eg Azure) so you can have an example on the front page. Highly recommend codeplex to host people's Silverlight open source projects. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 11:26 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Designing a Silverlight control - DeepEarth hey mate, The Eventr SuperDeepZoom control (http://www.codeplex.com/eventr) uses parts and states too, all the overlays etc are thus fully templatable... You might get (and set) some ideas from there. Cheers, Jordan. P.S. I'm looking forward to checking out the DeepEarth changes soon! From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 10:00 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Designing a Silverlight control - DeepEarth Hey guys, Over at the DeepEarth project we are going through some big changes moving away from just being one big map control to becoming a toolkit of map controls and components. The idea is to support in theory any Silverlight map control including a lighter weight version of our own and the new Bing Maps control. Anyway we're trying to design a really good template to follow and would love your feedback / tips / advice / links. The wiki page is here: http://deepearth.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=Control%20Architecture But to summarise I'm looking at the Parts and State model but also a way to separate out the base map implementation from the control using an interface. The first example code I have committed is a Coordinate control, basically listens for the mousemove event and calls a method on the map to translate the pixel position of the mouse to Latitude/Longitude. I have used the parts and state model with the generic.xaml default, spotted most people seem to use constantly name constants for the values and all state changes seem to be called in one GoToState method. The key design decisions are: 1. Each control is a separate project 2. Each control has its own map interface class 3. Each specific map implementation for each control would be its own project. Although this appears to be a nightmare of potentially hundreds of projects, for an open source project (where we are encouraging everyone to come and contribute a control) the separation will hopefully make management easier. Thoughts? _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Long weekend or Too busy
We are presenting the new Messenger Web Toolkit, they are XHTML controls and although not Silverlight are still pretty impressive. For example you get full featured messenger bar on the footer of your site with about 10 lines of code. No reason why you couldnt have this running on the same page as your cool Silverlight applications ;) Ill also be showing a new Silverlight powered theme maker for the web controls powered by a partial Silverlight port of Jonas Follesø Colorful Expression WPF application. Although not covered the talk (we only have 45min!) you can build full messenger experiences in your Silverlight applications. You use the same Javascript library as the web controls but make the UI in Silverlight. There is a full wrapper here on codeplex but I suspect it is out of date, will chase it up for you: http://www.codeplex.com/messenger (PS Im be working a Collaborative Silverlight experience project next month using Messenger as the communication platform so feel free to ping me if you want any more info) John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Philip Beadle Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 8:49 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Long weekend or Too busy John, Are those Messenger web controls SL controls or the normal html ones? Regards, Philip Beadle Readify | Principal Consultant Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET, MCAD, MCT Suite 408 LifeLabs Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 417 301 024 | E: mailto:philip.bea...@readify.net philip.bea...@readify.net | C: sip:philip.bea...@readify.net philip.bea...@readify.net | W: http://www.readify.net/ www.readify.net http://readify.net/about-readify/press/readify-makes-2008-mis-strategic-100 -list/ MIS Email Signature Banner From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 6:24 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Long weekend or Too busy Yes, we are all hard at work polishing off our presentations. The international speaker is Chris Pendleton who will be showing the Bing Maps Silverlight control, its very impressive. Along with Bronwen Zande Im presenting in the design track this year on the new Messenger Web controls. If youre interested in how to add these social messenger controls to your site and skin them then come join us. If you have ever used the toolbar on the bottom of facebook, you can now put something similar powered by messenger on your own site. Lastly, this may interest you Jason, I will be running Brian Peeks wii application for Bing Maps 3D in the exhibit hall. If you havent seen what the Bing maps team have been doing with 3D immersive environment then come and see me. John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of jason schluter Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 5:59 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Long weekend or Too busy Well, either were too busy getting ready for ReMix or The Long weekend is really being enjoyed right now. None the less, countdown is on. Jason Schluter Blender3DLive P.S. Would have been a very interesting day if it were held on July 10! _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Long weekend or Too busy
Barry, the controls are live ready to use, http://messenger.mslivelabs.com/ click on Learn, but the best control (msgr:bar/msgr:bar) is not shown there, will have tonnes of new info for Thursday Remix, fingers crossed ;) Can't wait! -Original Message- From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 9:59 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Long weekend or Too busy @John curious: is there a public example of the new Messenger Web Toolkit put to use? Or if not, will there be straight after REMIX? thanx barry.b On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 9:29 AM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: We are presenting the new Messenger Web Toolkit, they are XHTML controls and although not Silverlight are still pretty impressive. For example you get full featured messenger bar on the footer of your site with about 10 lines of code. No reason why you couldnt have this running on the same page as your cool Silverlight applications ;) Ill also be showing a new Silverlight powered theme maker for the web controls powered by a partial Silverlight port of Jonas Follesø Colorful Expression WPF application. Although not covered the talk (we only have 45min!) you can build full messenger experiences in your Silverlight applications. You use the same Javascript library as the web controls but make the UI in Silverlight. There is a full wrapper here on codeplex but I suspect it is out of date, will chase it up for you: http://www.codeplex.com/messenger (PS Im be working a Collaborative Silverlight experience project next month using Messenger as the communication platform so feel free to ping me if you want any more info) John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Philip Beadle Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2009 8:49 AM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Long weekend or Too busy John, Are those Messenger web controls SL controls or the normal html ones? Regards, Philip Beadle Readify | Principal Consultant Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET, MCAD, MCT Suite 408 LifeLabs Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 417 301 024 | E: philip.bea...@readify.net | C: philip.bea...@readify.net | W: www.readify.net From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 6:24 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: RE: Long weekend or Too busy Yes, we are all hard at work polishing off our presentations. The international speaker is Chris Pendleton who will be showing the Bing Maps Silverlight control, its very impressive. Along with Bronwen Zande Im presenting in the design track this year on the new Messenger Web controls. If youre interested in how to add these social messenger controls to your site and skin them then come join us. If you have ever used the toolbar on the bottom of facebook, you can now put something similar powered by messenger on your own site. Lastly, this may interest you Jason, I will be running Brian Peeks wii application for Bing Maps 3D in the exhibit hall. If you havent seen what the Bing maps team have been doing with 3D immersive environment then come and see me. John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of jason schluter Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 5:59 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Long weekend or Too busy Well, either were too busy getting ready for ReMix or The Long weekend is really being enjoyed right now. None the less, countdown is on. Jason Schluter Blender3DLive P.S. Would have been a very interesting day if it were held on July 10! Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Long weekend or Too busy
Yes, we are all hard at work polishing off our presentations. The international speaker is Chris Pendleton who will be showing the Bing Maps Silverlight control, it's very impressive. Along with Bronwen Zande I'm presenting in the design track this year on the new Messenger Web controls. If you're interested in how to add these social messenger controls to your site and skin them then come join us. If you have ever used the toolbar on the bottom of facebook, you can now put something similar powered by messenger on your own site. Lastly, this may interest you Jason, I will be running Brian Peek's wii application for Bing Maps 3D in the exhibit hall. If you haven't seen what the Bing maps team have been doing with 3D immersive environment then come and see me. John. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of jason schluter Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 5:59 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Long weekend or Too busy Well, either were too busy getting ready for ReMix or The Long weekend is really being enjoyed right now. None the less, countdown is on. Jason Schluter Blender3DLive P.S. Would have been a very interesting day if it were held on July 10! _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Exception handling / reporting RIA
Since the majority of errors we have so far are actually WCF communication errors this would make a lot of sense. Plus for power users we can always get the logs manually. Thanks. From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Gilbert Corrales Sent: Monday, 25 May 2009 12:54 PM To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: Exception handling / reporting RIA maybe a hybrid between isolated storage and remote error handling could work... in the case of error reporting the error we can log it temporary in isolated storage and later when the connection is reestablished we can log any information left might do for an interesting experiments. On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:14 AM, John OBrien j...@soulsolutions.com.au wrote: Has anyone come across a good architecture for handling exceptions in Silverlight gracefully? Ideally we want the user to get something generic but for the full error to be logged, since Silverlight runs on the client I assume we would need to implement a WCF service for error reporting? And clearly we don't want an error to happen in the error handler itself, it needs to be very robust. Any pointers? John. _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists _ Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: mailto:ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: mailto:ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
RE: Memory leaks and garbage collection
Sam, I'm building a GIS system with the new Virtual Earth Silverlight control and had a memory leak issue. The good news is I fixed it and it didn't take that long. I used Silverlight Spy to detect the leak and to confirm I had fixed it: http://silverlightspy.com/silverlightspy/download-silverlight-spy/ It turns out I was removing a child element that in turn had child elements that had both events and looping animations. The solution was to implement IDisposable and to stop the animations and detach the events on those objects. So bad news is that Silverlight doesn't magically solve memory leaks, good news is there are good tools to detect them and solutions to fix them. For those interested the scenario was deleting a MapLayer from the Map, the MapLayer contained hundreds of Custom Pushpins with animations, scale transformations hooked to the Map's onchangeViewFrame event and onclick event. It was easy enough to setup a layer to be added and removed every 5 sec in a manual unit test and check using Silverlight Spy. Love to know if people have found a way to automate this sort of test. John. -Original Message- From: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lai Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:49 AM To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Memory leaks and garbage collection Hi everyone, I've been working on a Flex app for a while now, and one of the most annoying things about it are memory leaks due to objects not being garbage collected. I'm not doing anything tricky, but I suspect it has something to do with bindings. The Flex Profiler doesn't always give enough information to exactly pinpoint it either. So as I'm about to start another project along similar lines, I'm wondering if people are experiencing similar issues in Silverlight, and how easy they were to resolve and avoid. Thanks, Sam -- Sent from my mobile device Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com Subscribe: ozsilverlight-subscr...@ozsilverlight.com Unsubscribe: ozsilverlight-unsubscr...@ozsilverlight.com List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
