Re: rolling back windows media player 11
just go to the add and remove and remove it in the normal way it will take you back to the previous version. hth anthony - Original Message - From: Terra Syslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:00 AM Subject: rolling back windows media player 11 Can someone tell me how to roll back WMP 11? Thank you. http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?siteId=3 email and MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: rolling back windows media player 11
Thanks for the help. http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?siteId=3 email and MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of anthony.campbell Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:36 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: rolling back windows media player 11 just go to the add and remove and remove it in the normal way it will take you back to the previous version. hth anthony - Original Message - From: Terra Syslo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:00 AM Subject: rolling back windows media player 11 Can someone tell me how to roll back WMP 11? Thank you. http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/home.faces?siteId=3 email and MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3350 (20080812) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get the most material onto a standard cd Using Goldwave and premier cd creator.
Hi, I have never done the following proceedure before, and could use suggestions. I have been asked to copy quite a number of cassettes of greatly varying lengths to be preserved onto cds. These cassettes are old family cassettes of kids singing and talking etc. Because the amount of material on each cassette varies from 7 minutes, to at least 30 minutes, I want to copy them consecutively. I will be using Goldwave. These cds should be able to be played on any cd player, so not an mp3 formate for now. So, if I change the byt rate, from 16 to 24, can I squeze more onto a cd? With premier cd Creator, when I put a new cd into the computer, it will tell me I have 703 megabytes free. I have been able to put about 72 minutes of material onto a cassette. Is there any way I could squeze a few minutes more onto each cd without having to go to mp3 format? Thanks very much for your help Vinny Samarco? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best player for blind person for mp3s?
well real layer is good along with windows media player 11. Hi, Please suggest the best MP3 player that a totally blind person can use. Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 3352 (20080813) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
best MP3 player?
Hi, Please suggest the best MP3 player that a totally blind person can navigate independently? Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
best player for blind person for mp3s?
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More on Making these children's tapes.
Hi, Let me add that I have been asked to do no editing on these tapes, however, I am going to place q points at the point where each cassette changes to the next cassette. Thanks again for help and suggestions. Vinny Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd burning
Express burn! that is a very accessible program and is great! - Original Message - From: Lauren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: cd burning Hi, I do not know anything about burning CDs, but need to learn. What is the easiest software that a totally blind person can navigate independently where I can burn music from my own CDs, from the web, etc.? Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd burning
Unfortunatley no, you have to buy it. It's on the NCH software web site - Original Message - From: Tiffany Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: Re: cd burning is it free? Tiffany - Original Message - From: Maheen Wickramasinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: Re: cd burning Express burn! that is a very accessible program and is great! - Original Message - From: Lauren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: cd burning Hi, I do not know anything about burning CDs, but need to learn. What is the easiest software that a totally blind person can navigate independently where I can burn music from my own CDs, from the web, etc.? Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cd burning
is it free? Tiffany - Original Message - From: Maheen Wickramasinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:33 AM Subject: Re: cd burning Express burn! that is a very accessible program and is great! - Original Message - From: Lauren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: cd burning Hi, I do not know anything about burning CDs, but need to learn. What is the easiest software that a totally blind person can navigate independently where I can burn music from my own CDs, from the web, etc.? Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd Using Goldwave and premier cd creator.
Whatever you use, Gold Wave, Sound Forge, Studio Recorder, a CD can hold up to 80 minutes of data, audio data, which equals about 703 megabytes, so if your cassettes are, as you say, 72 minutes in length, it should work fine, since you'll have 7 plus minutes left over. If you wish to put analog audio on a cd, you won't make it any format before recording except *.wav since you'll tell the cd burning package you use to make the audio for you. (Nero, easy_CDA_creator, Roxio, premier cd Creator, (whatever)), make them into just straight audio sound which a normal cd player handles. If you put *.mp3 files or any compressed format as data onto a cd, the cds will handle a great deal more subjective time of 80 minutes, ten times that easily, but a specialized cd player will be needed to play them which are, as you know, readily available. Gold wave makes the *.wav files, I'd suggest one per track of the newly created cd, and then you can either make GoldWave burn the cd, or another package which specialty is, burning audio cds, including one I use called Acoustica cd burner, or Nero. Changing the sampling rate from 16Bit to 24Bit will not change a length or make it possible to fit more, it will not do anything to the already recorded audio. Newly recorded audio, meaning not a copy of a cassette, certainly, the higher sampling rates take up more room, not less, 8Khz, 16Khz, 24Khz, 32Khz, etc but you're making a copy, not a new recording. Sampling rate, is a quality capability, not a compression or fit more capability into a space, that is when making mp3s at different rates of compression, e.g. 32K 40K 64K 128K 256K etc. Higher compression rates of 32K compared to 256K take up less room, but the K, mentioned here, is a different standard of handling audio than the K mentioned in sampling rate. I hope this gives you a glimmering. What you can do is this; after the recording onto cds is done, you can save all tracks on your computer, later, as *.mp3 or *.ogg or ... there are many possible compress formats, and if not in stereo, you can save them in mono at 64K bit rate, and will have no degradation, since cassettes will not go as high as 16Khz on the high end anyway unless there is specialized recording methods taken and the material contains a lot of 16Khz energy which is extremely unlikely considering the sources you're talking about. You can then make, if needed, more copies of the material onto straight audio cds, using one of the above mentioned packages, who will convert, on the fly, most compressed formats right back into audio format for you. When recording, since these are kids in different circumstances of excitement, play, calm, etc. you will probably also wish to make sure clipping does not happen, so record at a relatively low level, and then normalize afterwards so the computer can handle the optimal level for you after the initial recording is done. Curtis Delzer At 08:13 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hi, I have never done the following proceedure before, and could use suggestions. I have been asked to copy quite a number of cassettes of greatly varying lengths to be preserved onto cds. These cassettes are old family cassettes of kids singing and talking etc. Because the amount of material on each cassette varies from 7 minutes, to at least 30 minutes, I want to copy them consecutively. I will be using Goldwave. These cds should be able to be played on any cd player, so not an mp3 formate for now. So, if I change the byt rate, from 16 to 24, can I squeze more onto a cd? With premier cd Creator, when I put a new cd into the computer, it will tell me I have 703 megabytes free. I have been able to put about 72 minutes of material onto a cassette. Is there any way I could squeze a few minutes more onto each cd without having to go to mp3 format? Thanks very much for your help Vinny Samarco? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: best player for blind person for mp3s?
Are you seeking a portable device or the kind of player used to play .mp3's on a computer? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: best player for blind person for mp3s? Hi, Please suggest the best MP3 player that a totally blind person can use. Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd UsingGoldwave and premier cd creator.
Hi, Thank you for the explanation. Vinny - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd UsingGoldwave and premier cd creator. Whatever you use, Gold Wave, Sound Forge, Studio Recorder, a CD can hold up to 80 minutes of data, audio data, which equals about 703 megabytes, so if your cassettes are, as you say, 72 minutes in length, it should work fine, since you'll have 7 plus minutes left over. If you wish to put analog audio on a cd, you won't make it any format before recording except *.wav since you'll tell the cd burning package you use to make the audio for you. (Nero, easy_CDA_creator, Roxio, premier cd Creator, (whatever)), make them into just straight audio sound which a normal cd player handles. If you put *.mp3 files or any compressed format as data onto a cd, the cds will handle a great deal more subjective time of 80 minutes, ten times that easily, but a specialized cd player will be needed to play them which are, as you know, readily available. Gold wave makes the *.wav files, I'd suggest one per track of the newly created cd, and then you can either make GoldWave burn the cd, or another package which specialty is, burning audio cds, including one I use called Acoustica cd burner, or Nero. Changing the sampling rate from 16Bit to 24Bit will not change a length or make it possible to fit more, it will not do anything to the already recorded audio. Newly recorded audio, meaning not a copy of a cassette, certainly, the higher sampling rates take up more room, not less, 8Khz, 16Khz, 24Khz, 32Khz, etc but you're making a copy, not a new recording. Sampling rate, is a quality capability, not a compression or fit more capability into a space, that is when making mp3s at different rates of compression, e.g. 32K 40K 64K 128K 256K etc. Higher compression rates of 32K compared to 256K take up less room, but the K, mentioned here, is a different standard of handling audio than the K mentioned in sampling rate. I hope this gives you a glimmering. What you can do is this; after the recording onto cds is done, you can save all tracks on your computer, later, as *.mp3 or *.ogg or ... there are many possible compress formats, and if not in stereo, you can save them in mono at 64K bit rate, and will have no degradation, since cassettes will not go as high as 16Khz on the high end anyway unless there is specialized recording methods taken and the material contains a lot of 16Khz energy which is extremely unlikely considering the sources you're talking about. You can then make, if needed, more copies of the material onto straight audio cds, using one of the above mentioned packages, who will convert, on the fly, most compressed formats right back into audio format for you. When recording, since these are kids in different circumstances of excitement, play, calm, etc. you will probably also wish to make sure clipping does not happen, so record at a relatively low level, and then normalize afterwards so the computer can handle the optimal level for you after the initial recording is done. Curtis Delzer At 08:13 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hi, I have never done the following proceedure before, and could use suggestions. I have been asked to copy quite a number of cassettes of greatly varying lengths to be preserved onto cds. These cassettes are old family cassettes of kids singing and talking etc. Because the amount of material on each cassette varies from 7 minutes, to at least 30 minutes, I want to copy them consecutively. I will be using Goldwave. These cds should be able to be played on any cd player, so not an mp3 formate for now. So, if I change the byt rate, from 16 to 24, can I squeze more onto a cd? With premier cd Creator, when I put a new cd into the computer, it will tell me I have 703 megabytes free. I have been able to put about 72 minutes of material onto a cassette. Is there any way I could squeze a few minutes more onto each cd without having to go to mp3 format? Thanks very much for your help Vinny Samarco? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best player for blind person for mp3s?
I am seeking a portable device. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Blackwell, Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: RE: best player for blind person for mp3s? Are you seeking a portable device or the kind of player used to play .mp3's on a computer? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: best player for blind person for mp3s? Hi, Please suggest the best MP3 player that a totally blind person can use. Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
coby mp3 players
Is anyone familiar with this player and its accessibility? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: coby mp3 players
are you talking about the boombox style of this product if so i have one and the accessiblity is good for a blind person - Original Message - From: doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: coby mp3 players Is anyone familiar with this player and its accessibility? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: coby mp3 players
I am familliar with the company's works. Avoid at all costs. I've seen many Coby products, they are all terrible, trust me. - Original Message - From: doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: coby mp3 players Is anyone familiar with this player and its accessibility? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd UsingGoldwave and premier cd creator.
Hey, I just hope it helps! Having done several cassettes onto the computer, what is fun is making tracks for different things on the cassettes, because on a cassette the operator has to rewind or fast forward the tape to sections, where if you're doing an audio cd you can make tracks for not only sides of the cassette, but for changes in locale, activity, whatever. :) Curtis Delzer At 11:29 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hi, Thank you for the explanation. Vinny - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd UsingGoldwave and premier cd creator. Whatever you use, Gold Wave, Sound Forge, Studio Recorder, a CD can hold up to 80 minutes of data, audio data, which equals about 703 megabytes, so if your cassettes are, as you say, 72 minutes in length, it should work fine, since you'll have 7 plus minutes left over. If you wish to put analog audio on a cd, you won't make it any format before recording except *.wav since you'll tell the cd burning package you use to make the audio for you. (Nero, easy_CDA_creator, Roxio, premier cd Creator, (whatever)), make them into just straight audio sound which a normal cd player handles. If you put *.mp3 files or any compressed format as data onto a cd, the cds will handle a great deal more subjective time of 80 minutes, ten times that easily, but a specialized cd player will be needed to play them which are, as you know, readily available. Gold wave makes the *.wav files, I'd suggest one per track of the newly created cd, and then you can either make GoldWave burn the cd, or another package which specialty is, burning audio cds, including one I use called Acoustica cd burner, or Nero. Changing the sampling rate from 16Bit to 24Bit will not change a length or make it possible to fit more, it will not do anything to the already recorded audio. Newly recorded audio, meaning not a copy of a cassette, certainly, the higher sampling rates take up more room, not less, 8Khz, 16Khz, 24Khz, 32Khz, etc but you're making a copy, not a new recording. Sampling rate, is a quality capability, not a compression or fit more capability into a space, that is when making mp3s at different rates of compression, e.g. 32K 40K 64K 128K 256K etc. Higher compression rates of 32K compared to 256K take up less room, but the K, mentioned here, is a different standard of handling audio than the K mentioned in sampling rate. I hope this gives you a glimmering. What you can do is this; after the recording onto cds is done, you can save all tracks on your computer, later, as *.mp3 or *.ogg or ... there are many possible compress formats, and if not in stereo, you can save them in mono at 64K bit rate, and will have no degradation, since cassettes will not go as high as 16Khz on the high end anyway unless there is specialized recording methods taken and the material contains a lot of 16Khz energy which is extremely unlikely considering the sources you're talking about. You can then make, if needed, more copies of the material onto straight audio cds, using one of the above mentioned packages, who will convert, on the fly, most compressed formats right back into audio format for you. When recording, since these are kids in different circumstances of excitement, play, calm, etc. you will probably also wish to make sure clipping does not happen, so record at a relatively low level, and then normalize afterwards so the computer can handle the optimal level for you after the initial recording is done. Curtis Delzer At 08:13 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hi, I have never done the following proceedure before, and could use suggestions. I have been asked to copy quite a number of cassettes of greatly varying lengths to be preserved onto cds. These cassettes are old family cassettes of kids singing and talking etc. Because the amount of material on each cassette varies from 7 minutes, to at least 30 minutes, I want to copy them consecutively. I will be using Goldwave. These cds should be able to be played on any cd player, so not an mp3 formate for now. So, if I change the byt rate, from 16 to 24, can I squeze more onto a cd? With premier cd Creator, when I put a new cd into the computer, it will tell me I have 703 megabytes free. I have been able to put about 72 minutes of material onto a cassette. Is there any way I could squeze a few minutes more onto each cd without having to go to mp3 format? Thanks very much for your help Vinny Samarco? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more...
RE: best player for blind person for mp3s?
The question of a device is somewhat complicated. There are screenless commercially available players like the Creative Labs, Zen Stone (1 and 2 gb models, the Creative Labs Muvo t100 (1, 2 and 4 gb models) the and the Ipod Shuffle. There are devices built specifically for the blind like the VR Stream from Humanware. There are also commercially available players with much more storage that can be made to talk with the addition of software from Rockbox. What do you want the .mp3 player to do? Hold and play lots of music? Play enough music for a work out or walk or trip? Do you want it to play Audible and other recorded books? Does size matter? The Creative Labs players and the Shuffle are all very small. The VR Stream is about the size of a deck of cards and the players that can be loaded with Rockbox vary in size. Finally, what are you looking to spend? The commercially available screenless models are generall under $75. I think the Stream is around $300 and you will need to buy memory cards. And the other players vary depending on availability, size and features. Hope this gets you started. There are good discussions of various options on AFB Main Stream, in AFB's Access World magazine and in a book from NBP. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: best player for blind person for mp3s? I am seeking a portable device. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Blackwell, Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: RE: best player for blind person for mp3s? Are you seeking a portable device or the kind of player used to play .mp3's on a computer? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: best player for blind person for mp3s? Hi, Please suggest the best MP3 player that a totally blind person can use. Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Total recorder standard or pro?
Hello! What difers between total recorder standard or pro edition? Actually i am intrested in buying it but don't know which version to buy. I do not have lot of money but there seems to be no such great program for free. Thanks. /Anders. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: coby mp3 players
please explain? - Original Message - From: Nick G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: coby mp3 players I am familliar with the company's works. Avoid at all costs. I've seen many Coby products, they are all terrible, trust me. - Original Message - From: doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: coby mp3 players Is anyone familiar with this player and its accessibility? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cdUsingGoldwave and premier cd creator.
very informative Curtis. I am going to share this with some students this year for a project we are working on regarding these very issues. - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cdUsingGoldwave and premier cd creator. Hey, I just hope it helps! Having done several cassettes onto the computer, what is fun is making tracks for different things on the cassettes, because on a cassette the operator has to rewind or fast forward the tape to sections, where if you're doing an audio cd you can make tracks for not only sides of the cassette, but for changes in locale, activity, whatever. :) Curtis Delzer At 11:29 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hi, Thank you for the explanation. Vinny - Original Message - From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: How to get the most material onto a standard cd UsingGoldwave and premier cd creator. Whatever you use, Gold Wave, Sound Forge, Studio Recorder, a CD can hold up to 80 minutes of data, audio data, which equals about 703 megabytes, so if your cassettes are, as you say, 72 minutes in length, it should work fine, since you'll have 7 plus minutes left over. If you wish to put analog audio on a cd, you won't make it any format before recording except *.wav since you'll tell the cd burning package you use to make the audio for you. (Nero, easy_CDA_creator, Roxio, premier cd Creator, (whatever)), make them into just straight audio sound which a normal cd player handles. If you put *.mp3 files or any compressed format as data onto a cd, the cds will handle a great deal more subjective time of 80 minutes, ten times that easily, but a specialized cd player will be needed to play them which are, as you know, readily available. Gold wave makes the *.wav files, I'd suggest one per track of the newly created cd, and then you can either make GoldWave burn the cd, or another package which specialty is, burning audio cds, including one I use called Acoustica cd burner, or Nero. Changing the sampling rate from 16Bit to 24Bit will not change a length or make it possible to fit more, it will not do anything to the already recorded audio. Newly recorded audio, meaning not a copy of a cassette, certainly, the higher sampling rates take up more room, not less, 8Khz, 16Khz, 24Khz, 32Khz, etc but you're making a copy, not a new recording. Sampling rate, is a quality capability, not a compression or fit more capability into a space, that is when making mp3s at different rates of compression, e.g. 32K 40K 64K 128K 256K etc. Higher compression rates of 32K compared to 256K take up less room, but the K, mentioned here, is a different standard of handling audio than the K mentioned in sampling rate. I hope this gives you a glimmering. What you can do is this; after the recording onto cds is done, you can save all tracks on your computer, later, as *.mp3 or *.ogg or ... there are many possible compress formats, and if not in stereo, you can save them in mono at 64K bit rate, and will have no degradation, since cassettes will not go as high as 16Khz on the high end anyway unless there is specialized recording methods taken and the material contains a lot of 16Khz energy which is extremely unlikely considering the sources you're talking about. You can then make, if needed, more copies of the material onto straight audio cds, using one of the above mentioned packages, who will convert, on the fly, most compressed formats right back into audio format for you. When recording, since these are kids in different circumstances of excitement, play, calm, etc. you will probably also wish to make sure clipping does not happen, so record at a relatively low level, and then normalize afterwards so the computer can handle the optimal level for you after the initial recording is done. Curtis Delzer At 08:13 AM 8/13/2008, you wrote: Hi, I have never done the following proceedure before, and could use suggestions. I have been asked to copy quite a number of cassettes of greatly varying lengths to be preserved onto cds. These cassettes are old family cassettes of kids singing and talking etc. Because the amount of material on each cassette varies from 7 minutes, to at least 30 minutes, I want to copy them consecutively. I will be using Goldwave. These cds should be able to be played on any cd player, so not an mp3 formate for now. So, if I change the byt rate, from 16 to 24, can I squeze more onto a cd? With premier cd Creator, when I put a new cd into the computer, it will tell me I have 703 megabytes free. I have been able to put about 72 minutes of material onto a cassette. Is there
Re: Total recorder standard or pro?
Depends on what you want to do, Standard is exactly that, the software just records and I think you get a basic scheduler, nothing more nothing les. Now if you want to do more advanced recording tasks such as using specific file rules, conditions and criteria for each recording, the ability to perform time shifting on your recordings, ad affects, edit your recordings and so forth then go for the Professional edition, that would be the one I'd be buying anyway, packed with value at $40.00. On 14/08/2008, at 4:48 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hello! What difers between total recorder standard or pro edition? Actually i am intrested in buying it but don't know which version to buy. I do not have lot of money but there seems to be no such great program for free. Thanks. /Anders. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PHONE: +613 8732 9237 Fax: +613 9743 7954 mobile: +61 418 773 5532 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: callto:grtdane12 ** Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Total recorder standard or pro?
Hi, What aar you looking to do? TR Standard should give you everything you need. You can check out the differences at the hiCriteria home page but I'm pretty sure Standard wikll suffice...KG - Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:48 PM Subject: Total recorder standard or pro? Hello! What difers between total recorder standard or pro edition? Actually i am intrested in buying it but don't know which version to buy. I do not have lot of money but there seems to be no such great program for free. Thanks. /Anders. Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best player for blind person for mp3s?
All points I was going to make! From my own personal experience, I would just like to add the following. I have a Zen Stone with an External Speaker that I highly recommend. It has a 2GB capacity. It has no screen, and it's totally accessible. I upgraded to this from my 1GB Zen Stone, which also didn't have a screen and was totally accessible. Both players have a resume feature, which will pick up where they left off when you powered them down. this is a global setting, so you can't have a separate book mark for each song or file. They may come in a 4GB version now. I paid $40 for the 2GB Zen Stone with External Speaker from Frye's. As clifford said, there are also versions that come with a FM radio, recorder and a display. I've heard blind people have been successful using them, but I can't speak to that myself. I personally use my Zen Stone for my audible.com and overdrive.com books, since it will play WMA DRM files, and these files typically aren't files I want to keep around forever, so the 2GB capacity isn't an issue. I also have a few of my favorite CD's on there as well. I also have an iRiver H20 running rockbox. This has a 20GB capacity. It's my portable music library. rockbox is open source firmware that you use to replace the firmware that comes on your MP3 player. It won't run on every player, and it takes a while to be ported over to new players, so the latest and greatest of each player aren't necessarily supported. It also won't play WMA DRM files, so no good for audible.com or overdrive.com books or some music subscription services. rockbox was not developed for the blind. It was developed by and for audiophiles who wanted to get more from their MP3 players than they could get with the player's native firmware. It does have an eyes free mode where menus, files and directories can be spoken. This is done with tiny recordings, usually generated with a speech synthesizer, and it is not done with a TTS. Rockbox is not a screen reader. Given all of this, Rockbox is a great project and wonderful for use by the blind. It is not as easy to install as a Windows application though, so if you want to install it, and have it speak your files and directories to you, it will take some reading and work on your part. IMO, it's definitely worthwhile, but people shouldn't go into it thinking it'll be as easy as buying a Zen Stone and hitting the power button. Good luck, and I hope this helps. Blackwell, Clifford wrote: The question of a device is somewhat complicated. There are screenless commercially available players like the Creative Labs, Zen Stone (1 and 2 gb models, the Creative Labs Muvo t100 (1, 2 and 4 gb models) the and the Ipod Shuffle. There are devices built specifically for the blind like the VR Stream from Humanware. There are also commercially available players with much more storage that can be made to talk with the addition of software from Rockbox. What do you want the .mp3 player to do? Hold and play lots of music? Play enough music for a work out or walk or trip? Do you want it to play Audible and other recorded books? Does size matter? The Creative Labs players and the Shuffle are all very small. The VR Stream is about the size of a deck of cards and the players that can be loaded with Rockbox vary in size. Finally, what are you looking to spend? The commercially available screenless models are generall under $75. I think the Stream is around $300 and you will need to buy memory cards. And the other players vary depending on availability, size and features. Hope this gets you started. There are good discussions of various options on AFB Main Stream, in AFB's Access World magazine and in a book from NBP. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: best player for blind person for mp3s? I am seeking a portable device. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: Blackwell, Clifford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: RE: best player for blind person for mp3s? Are you seeking a portable device or the kind of player used to play .mp3's on a computer? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: best player for blind person for mp3s? Hi, Please suggest the best MP3 player that a totally blind person can use. Thank you. Sincerely, Lauren Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives
audio equipment help
Hello, Maybe somebody could help me... I'm new to the audio field... (I've had tape recorders and a little Olympus WS330), but want to get into pro audio production. I want whatever I've got to be portable and relativley small. I have moved through a series of equipment and now that I know ediiting skills and mixing, I would like to persue a carreer in audio. Currently, I am using an Olympus WS330, which records into WMA and does o.k as far as quality goes. There are a few recorders built into certain note-takers I use, but now I want to upgrade so I can get the best quality possible. Here's what I'm looking to do: Record in sterio, as high quality as possible so I can pick up: musical instruments (ukulele especially, as that is what I play) Sound effects Ambiances (animals, walking in certain areas... you get the picture) Record bootleg concerts Which recorder should I get? I don't want to spend over $350 if I can help it (don't have all that much at the moment). I am also looking for a recorder that is reasonably accessable, has the quality of the ZoomH2, is relatively small and not combersum to lug around, but is of the highest quality possible within this price range. I quite like the sound quality of the zoomH2, but do not like the inaccessability of it. What microphones should I invest in? I want good quality external sterio microphones... a coe-worker highly praised LSR, and suggested Sure Mike 57 or 58 as the way to go? I basicly want to record everything, have it sound as good as possible, and not struggle navigating complicated menus where is the chance of me screwing something up. Any help on this matter you could give is greatly appreciated... also what else would I need? I currently am using Soundforge and Studio Recorder (because of it's multi-track capabilities.) I want a recorder that has a good internal microphone and can record music very well... needs to have 1/8 jacks, mike in/line in, multi file types, compression, and such. Want a microphone that records in stereo, can pick up even the tiniest noise, and yet can be lowered down if the gain is too loud. How does ZoomH2 stand next to other digital recorders? I want to be able to record both speech and music... Once learned, are the menus of the digital recorder ZoomH2 easy to remember and easy to access? Thanks for lettin' me ramble. Sincerely, Joshua Pearson Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: audio equipment help
Hi, I use Sornar, soundforge , adobe 2.0 on a laptop and desktop. I suspect you could put tthese programs on a laptop and make things portable. However, there is a sornar transport from Dancing Dots.com that will let you take recordings and edit tyhem on the go. these programs and equipment can get expensive. Most of my stuff is not so portable but maybe this might give you some idea where to look. Bill at DDancing Dots is a very help gentleman.- Original Message - From: josh pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:45 PM Subject: audio equipment help Hello, Maybe somebody could help me... I'm new to the audio field... (I've had tape recorders and a little Olympus WS330), but want to get into pro audio production. I want whatever I've got to be portable and relativley small. I have moved through a series of equipment and now that I know ediiting skills and mixing, I would like to persue a carreer in audio. Currently, I am using an Olympus WS330, which records into WMA and does o.k as far as quality goes. There are a few recorders built into certain note-takers I use, but now I want to upgrade so I can get the best quality possible. Here's what I'm looking to do: Record in sterio, as high quality as possible so I can pick up: musical instruments (ukulele especially, as that is what I play) Sound effects Ambiances (animals, walking in certain areas... you get the picture) Record bootleg concerts Which recorder should I get? I don't want to spend over $350 if I can help it (don't have all that much at the moment). I am also looking for a recorder that is reasonably accessable, has the quality of the ZoomH2, is relatively small and not combersum to lug around, but is of the highest quality possible within this price range. I quite like the sound quality of the zoomH2, but do not like the inaccessability of it. What microphones should I invest in? I want good quality external sterio microphones... a coe-worker highly praised LSR, and suggested Sure Mike 57 or 58 as the way to go? I basicly want to record everything, have it sound as good as possible, and not struggle navigating complicated menus where is the chance of me screwing something up. Any help on this matter you could give is greatly appreciated... also what else would I need? I currently am using Soundforge and Studio Recorder (because of it's multi-track capabilities.) I want a recorder that has a good internal microphone and can record music very well... needs to have 1/8 jacks, mike in/line in, multi file types, compression, and such. Want a microphone that records in stereo, can pick up even the tiniest noise, and yet can be lowered down if the gain is too loud. How does ZoomH2 stand next to other digital recorders? I want to be able to record both speech and music... Once learned, are the menus of the digital recorder ZoomH2 easy to remember and easy to access? Thanks for lettin' me ramble. Sincerely, Joshua Pearson Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: best player for blind person for mp3s?
I would echo the responses listed below with some more take it or leave it advice. Rockbox, I have installed and used it on several targets: Iriver, Archos and Toshiba Gigabete The setup process takes some doing but once you have the firmware installed updateing is a snap! AllMenue items are spoken using generated 8kb clips called a voice UI or, User Interface. You can build your own using sapi voices and Sigwin or download and install daily voice builds using the speaks coddex. The folders and files are spoken after running the voicebox plus utility. It is a pain to find a suitable player and get it set up but it is well worth it. The user manuals for each target are some of the best and accessible HTML documents I have ever used. Read more at www.rockbox.org Find out all targets and there capabilities at: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide I also have the ZennStone with speaker with I use in the gym! Fantastic and super simple to use. Not the most powerful unit on the block but very portable and user friendly. Drag and drop USB charging with a clever way of navigation between files and folders. I have a Victor Stream manufactured by Humanware Canada!: www.humanware.ca A Smoking unit for Audible, unprotected WMA/DRm, Daisy 2/3, txt and html documents and music in MP3, losses and OGG files. I recently grabbed a 16GB HCSD high capacity secure digital memory card from EBay so my capasity is great! Not cheap at $275 to $375 but a very nice unit indeed! Oh ya, My Nokia smart phone runnning Symbian 9.2 with an S60 Audible player and Nokia audio book player is no slouch either. The loudest and clearest internal speakers I have ever heard! A, to B, with varying price points for yor consideration! HTH...rocker . - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: best player for blind person for mp3s? All points I was going to make! From my own personal experience, I would just like to add the following. I have a Zen Stone with an External Speaker that I highly recommend. It has a 2GB capacity. It has no screen, and it's totally accessible. I upgraded to this from my 1GB Zen Stone, which also didn't have a screen and was totally accessible. Both players have a resume feature, which will pick up where they left off when you powered them down. this is a global setting, so you can't have a separate book mark for each song or file. They may come in a 4GB version now. I paid $40 for the 2GB Zen Stone with External Speaker from Frye's. As clifford said, there are also versions that come with a FM radio, recorder and a display. I've heard blind people have been successful using them, but I can't speak to that myself. I personally use my Zen Stone for my audible.com and overdrive.com books, since it will play WMA DRM files, and these files typically aren't files I want to keep around forever, so the 2GB capacity isn't an issue. I also have a few of my favorite CD's on there as well. I also have an iRiver H20 running rockbox. This has a 20GB capacity. It's my portable music library. rockbox is open source firmware that you use to replace the firmware that comes on your MP3 player. It won't run on every player, and it takes a while to be ported over to new players, so the latest and greatest of each player aren't necessarily supported. It also won't play WMA DRM files, so no good for audible.com or overdrive.com books or some music subscription services. rockbox was not developed for the blind. It was developed by and for audiophiles who wanted to get more from their MP3 players than they could get with the player's native firmware. It does have an eyes free mode where menus, files and directories can be spoken. This is done with tiny recordings, usually generated with a speech synthesizer, and it is not done with a TTS. Rockbox is not a screen reader. Given all of this, Rockbox is a great project and wonderful for use by the blind. It is not as easy to install as a Windows application though, so if you want to install it, and have it speak your files and directories to you, it will take some reading and work on your part. IMO, it's definitely worthwhile, but people shouldn't go into it thinking it'll be as easy as buying a Zen Stone and hitting the power button. Good luck, and I hope this helps. Blackwell, Clifford wrote: The question of a device is somewhat complicated. There are screenless commercially available players like the Creative Labs, Zen Stone (1 and 2 gb models, the Creative Labs Muvo t100 (1, 2 and 4 gb models) the and the Ipod Shuffle. There are devices built specifically for the blind like the VR Stream from Humanware. There are also commercially available players with much more storage that can be made to talk with the addition of software from Rockbox. What do you want the .mp3 player to do? Hold and play
Re: coby mp3 players
Yeah, I guess if you really want something simple that plays your mp3s and you don't want to worry about going through menus, the player is somewhat usable. It's definitely no iPod, or Creative Zen Stone or anything like that. It's most certainly on the lower end of audio players. At 01:44 PM 8/13/2008, you wrote: I am familliar with the company's works. Avoid at all costs. I've seen many Coby products, they are all terrible, trust me. - Original Message - From: doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:35 PM Subject: coby mp3 players Is anyone familiar with this player and its accessibility? Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3352 (20080813) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com Jonathan Mosen List Founder Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
