Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay fine and I appreciate you looking this up in Wikipedia however not 
everything on Wikipedia is accurate, I know someone else who is well informed 
on this topic and - whilst I'm not disputing the standard used at all - I'm 
curious to know where Motorolla comes into the picture in Australia, I'll 
contribute what I find out to the list.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 1:20 pm, Barry Chapman  wrote:

> Hi Dane,
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
> C-QUAM is the method of AM stereo broadcasting used in Canada, the United 
> States and most other countries. It was invented in 1977 
> by Norman Parker, Francis Hilbert and Yoshio Sakaie, and published in an IEEE 
> journal.
> 
> Using circuitry developed by Motorola, C-QUAM uses quadrature amplitude 
> modulation (QAM) to encode the stereo separation signal.
> 
> Barry Chapman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
> 
> 
> Now a question for you, is this the Motoroller standard? If so then yes, 
> that's the main one used in Australia.
> 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2014, at 12:41 pm, Barry Chapman  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, Australia used the C-QUAM standard for AM stereo.
>> 
>> Barry Chapman
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Gary Schindler" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe the Melbourne station used SeQuam like the system that was adopted in
>> the states. Stereo separation was pretty decent and most of the big gun
>> radio stations in Pittsburgh broadcast in stereo 24 7. by the late 90's
>> stereo AM went buy the wayside like HD AM is pretty much done around here
>> now. If KDKA can't make a go or looses interest in the newest form of
>> transmission, the others follow suit.
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>> 
>> 
>> I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its
>> easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio,
>> I used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded
>> me of a chocolate biscuit/cookie .
>> 
>> The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the
>> edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I
>> do - that's not at all surprising.
>> 
>> I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to
>> get decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you
>> could hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM
>> Stereo signal.
>> 
>> The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me
>> from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back
>> in 1987.
>> 
>> What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if
>> its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or
>> odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I
>> used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these
>> signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.
>> 
>> The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've
>> ever heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using
>> on their transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:
>> 
>>> I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket
>>> portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is
>>> quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a
>>> perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that
>>> use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually
>>> prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here
>>> in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with
>>> adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>> 
 In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM
 stereo
 system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig
 and
 would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
 just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
 experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled
 to
 Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
 equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
 father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
 noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that cou

Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Barry Chapman
Hi Dane,

>From Wikipedia:

C-QUAM is the method of AM stereo broadcasting used in Canada, the United 
States and most other countries. It was invented in 1977 
by Norman Parker, Francis Hilbert and Yoshio Sakaie, and published in an IEEE 
journal.

Using circuitry developed by Motorola, C-QUAM uses quadrature amplitude 
modulation (QAM) to encode the stereo separation signal.

Barry Chapman

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Stereo AM


Now a question for you, is this the Motoroller standard? If so then yes, that's 
the main one used in Australia.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 12:41 pm, Barry Chapman  wrote:

> Yes, Australia used the C-QUAM standard for AM stereo.
>
> Barry Chapman
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Schindler" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>
>
> Maybe the Melbourne station used SeQuam like the system that was adopted in
> the states. Stereo separation was pretty decent and most of the big gun
> radio stations in Pittsburgh broadcast in stereo 24 7. by the late 90's
> stereo AM went buy the wayside like HD AM is pretty much done around here
> now. If KDKA can't make a go or looses interest in the newest form of
> transmission, the others follow suit.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>
>
> I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its
> easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio,
> I used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded
> me of a chocolate biscuit/cookie .
>
> The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the
> edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I
> do - that's not at all surprising.
>
> I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to
> get decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you
> could hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM
> Stereo signal.
>
> The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me
> from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back
> in 1987.
>
> What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if
> its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or
> odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I
> used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these
> signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.
>
> The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've
> ever heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using
> on their transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.
>
>
> On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:
>
>> I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket
>> portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is
>> quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a
>> perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that
>> use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually
>> prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here
>> in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with
>> adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>
>>> In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM
>>> stereo
>>> system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig
>>> and
>>> would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>>> just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>>> experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled
>>> to
>>> Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>>> equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>>> father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>>> noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So
>>> just
>>> to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to
>>> tell
>>> me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>>> totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>>> Reese
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>>
>>> Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was 

Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Now a question for you, is this the Motoroller standard? If so then yes, that's 
the main one used in Australia.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 12:41 pm, Barry Chapman  wrote:

> Yes, Australia used the C-QUAM standard for AM stereo.
> 
> Barry Chapman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Schindler" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
> 
> 
> Maybe the Melbourne station used SeQuam like the system that was adopted in 
> the states. Stereo separation was pretty decent and most of the big gun 
> radio stations in Pittsburgh broadcast in stereo 24 7. by the late 90's 
> stereo AM went buy the wayside like HD AM is pretty much done around here 
> now. If KDKA can't make a go or looses interest in the newest form of 
> transmission, the others follow suit.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
> 
> 
> I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its 
> easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio, 
> I used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded 
> me of a chocolate biscuit/cookie .
> 
> The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the 
> edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I 
> do - that's not at all surprising.
> 
> I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to 
> get decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you 
> could hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM 
> Stereo signal.
> 
> The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me 
> from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back 
> in 1987.
> 
> What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if 
> its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or 
> odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I 
> used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these 
> signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.
> 
> The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've 
> ever heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using 
> on their transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.
> 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:
> 
>> I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
>> portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
>> quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a
>> perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that 
>> use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually 
>> prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here
>> in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
>> adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> 
>>> In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM 
>>> stereo
>>> system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig 
>>> and
>>> would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>>> just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>>> experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled 
>>> to
>>> Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>>> equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>>> father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>>> noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So 
>>> just
>>> to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to 
>>> tell
>>> me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>>> totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>>> Reese
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>> 
>>> Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a
>>> stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did 
>>> have
>>> two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you
>>> could get the stereo sound.
>>> Evan
>> 
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
>>> Subject: Stereo AM
>> 
>> 
>>> Back to the glory days of radio .
>> 
>>> Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledg

Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
That wasn't always the case, there was a battle in court at some point there 
over what method was to be used, Sony was one of those company's that was 
absolutely sick and tired of the whole "Method" argument so they made their own 
systems whereby the user could either "Switch" methods depending on the one 
used or - in later models - the set would detect the method automatically.

For a while in Australia the ABC was using the Haris method.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 12:41 pm, Barry Chapman  wrote:

> Yes, Australia used the C-QUAM standard for AM stereo.
> 
> Barry Chapman
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gary Schindler" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
> 
> 
> Maybe the Melbourne station used SeQuam like the system that was adopted in 
> the states. Stereo separation was pretty decent and most of the big gun 
> radio stations in Pittsburgh broadcast in stereo 24 7. by the late 90's 
> stereo AM went buy the wayside like HD AM is pretty much done around here 
> now. If KDKA can't make a go or looses interest in the newest form of 
> transmission, the others follow suit.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
> 
> 
> I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its 
> easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio, 
> I used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded 
> me of a chocolate biscuit/cookie .
> 
> The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the 
> edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I 
> do - that's not at all surprising.
> 
> I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to 
> get decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you 
> could hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM 
> Stereo signal.
> 
> The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me 
> from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back 
> in 1987.
> 
> What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if 
> its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or 
> odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I 
> used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these 
> signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.
> 
> The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've 
> ever heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using 
> on their transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.
> 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:
> 
>> I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
>> portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
>> quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a
>> perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that 
>> use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually 
>> prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here
>> in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
>> adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Steve Jacobson
>> 
>> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> 
>>> In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM 
>>> stereo
>>> system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig 
>>> and
>>> would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>>> just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>>> experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled 
>>> to
>>> Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>>> equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>>> father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>>> noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So 
>>> just
>>> to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to 
>>> tell
>>> me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>>> totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>>> Reese
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>> 
>>> Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a
>>> stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did 
>>> have
>>> two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right

Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Barry Chapman
Yes, Australia used the C-QUAM standard for AM stereo.

Barry Chapman

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Schindler" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Stereo AM


Maybe the Melbourne station used SeQuam like the system that was adopted in 
the states. Stereo separation was pretty decent and most of the big gun 
radio stations in Pittsburgh broadcast in stereo 24 7. by the late 90's 
stereo AM went buy the wayside like HD AM is pretty much done around here 
now. If KDKA can't make a go or looses interest in the newest form of 
transmission, the others follow suit.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Stereo AM


I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its 
easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio, 
I used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded 
me of a chocolate biscuit/cookie .

The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the 
edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I 
do - that's not at all surprising.

I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to 
get decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you 
could hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM 
Stereo signal.

The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me 
from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back 
in 1987.

What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if 
its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or 
odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I 
used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these 
signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.

The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've 
ever heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using 
on their transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:

> I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
> portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
> quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a
> perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that 
> use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually 
> prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here
> in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
> adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>
>> In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM 
>> stereo
>> system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig 
>> and
>> would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>> just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>> experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled 
>> to
>> Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>> equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>> father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>> noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So 
>> just
>> to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to 
>> tell
>> me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>> totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>> Tom Kaufman
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>> Reese
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
>
>> Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a
>> stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did 
>> have
>> two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you
>> could get the stereo sound.
>> Evan
>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Stereo AM
>
>
>> Back to the glory days of radio .
>
>> Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that 
>> does
>
>> broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a
>> recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure
>> when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who
>> have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.
>> 
>
>
>> **
>
>> Dane Trethowa

Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Gary Schindler
Maybe the Melbourne station used SeQuam like the system that was adopted in 
the states. Stereo separation was pretty decent and most of the big gun 
radio stations in Pittsburgh broadcast in stereo 24 7. by the late 90's 
stereo AM went buy the wayside like HD AM is pretty much done around here 
now. If KDKA can't make a go or looses interest in the newest form of 
transmission, the others follow suit.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Stereo AM


I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its 
easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio, 
I used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded 
me of a chocolate biscuit/cookie .


The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the 
edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I 
do - that's not at all surprising.


I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to 
get decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you 
could hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM 
Stereo signal.


The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me 
from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back 
in 1987.


What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if 
its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or 
odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I 
used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these 
signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.


The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've 
ever heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using 
on their transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.



On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:

I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a
perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that 
use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually 
prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here
in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.


Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM 
stereo
system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig 
and

would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled 
to

Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So 
just
to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to 
tell

me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
totally amazed at how good it sounded!
Tom Kaufman



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Stereo AM



Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a
stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did 
have

two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you
could get the stereo sound.
Evan


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
Subject: Stereo AM




Back to the glory days of radio .


Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that 
does



broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a
recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure
when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who
have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.





**



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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Skype: grtdane12
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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
I think I know the Sony Walkman Stereo AM Walkman you're referring to, its 
easily identifiable by the very large band switch on the face of the radio, I 
used to call that Walkman the "Biscuit Radio" as the band switch reminded me of 
a chocolate biscuit/cookie .

The radio was okay though I thought the smaller Sangean Pocket model had the 
edge, far better sensitivity to start with though - knowing Sangean as I do - 
that's not at all surprising.

I have a couple of Sony AM Stereo tuners though they had to be adjusted to get 
decent clarity out of them, they also exhibited an annoying trait, you could 
hear the 25HZ tone which tells the tuner that the signal is an AM Stereo signal.

The other capable Stereo AM tuner I have here is one that I had built for me 
from the information supplied in the electronics magazine Silicon Chip back in 
1987.

What I like about Stereo AM is that it can be broadcast at any time and - if 
its done properly - the average consumer will not notice any interference or 
odd sound from their standard Mono AM radio, some of the AM Stereo signals I 
used to listen to did exhibit slight bass distortion on a Mono set but these 
signals usually sounded pretty poor when listening on an AM Stereo tuner.

The Melbourne radio station 3UZ had by far the best Stereo AM sound I've ever 
heard - along with Canberra's 2CA -, I don't know what they were using on their 
transmitter but even the mono signal sounded clean and crisp.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 5:32 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:

> I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
> portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
> quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a 
> perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that 
> use HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually 
> prefer a noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here 
> in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
> adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:
> 
>> In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM stereo
>> system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig and
>> would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>> just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>> experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled to
>> Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>> equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>> father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>> noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So just
>> to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to tell
>> me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>> totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>> Tom Kaufman
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>> Reese
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Stereo AM
> 
>> Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a 
>> stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have 
>> two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you 
>> could get the stereo sound.
>> Evan
> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
>> Subject: Stereo AM
> 
> 
>> Back to the glory days of radio .
> 
>> Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does
> 
>> broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a 
>> recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure 
>> when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who 
>> have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.
>> 
> 
> 
>> **
> 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> faceTime +61400494862
>> Fax +61397437954
>> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
I wasn't specifically referring to Bluetooth headsets here, the devices I spoke 
of don't use Bluetooth and I can walk from one end of the house to the other 
using these headsets.

I'm not sure about the Plantronics but the Logitech uses part of the 2.4GHZ 
band and no! I've not seen any interference on my Wi-Fi Network though then 
again I'm not at all surprised, the Asus RTN-56U router I'm now using is the 
most robust Wi-Fi router I've ever had the pleasure of using.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 4:15 am, Steve Jacobson  wrote:

> Dane,
> 
> Are these actual RF or Bluetooth?  I know that technically Bluetooth is RF, 
> but I looked for some of the older type of RF headphones a year or so ago 
> that have greater range than Bluetooth or similar types and 
> found it is getting harder to tell what one is getting when one reads the 
> package.  I bought some from Radio Shack, for example, that did not mention 
> Bluetooth at all, and perhaps they didn't actually use that 
> protocol, but the range was only the range of Bluetooth.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Steve Jacobson
> 
> On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:40:51 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
>> Okay so what's the headset going to be used for, are you using it with a 
>> computer and something like Skype or will you be using it with a radio or 
>> something else.
> 
>> If looking for a Wireless Headset for your computer then the Logitech H600 
>> is worth a look, their's a nice Plantronics model which I have but can't 
>> remember the name of it.
> 
>> both headsets are different, the Plantronics is a closed back type whilst 
>> the Logitech is an open backed type, both go over the head and ears.
> 
> 
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 1:59 pm, John Chilelli  wrote:
> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset for my 
>>> reading.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone had any experience with this headset?
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?
>>> 
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones
>>> 
>>> Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> John Chilelli
>>> 
> 
> 
>> **
> 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> faceTime +61400494862
>> Fax +61397437954
>> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Evan Reese
Well, other than Winamp, the only other ripper I tried was CDex. I've heard 
that it uses Gracenotes as Winamp does, but it didn't tag up my files as 
well as Winamp did.

Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information


Hello Evan and list:  So are there any advantages with ripping with Winamp,
as opposed to other CD rippers such as Cdex, WMP and MP3 Ripper?  BTW-I
installed MP3 Ripper a little while ago, but don't see how to  make it give
title and artist and such!  Besides, it still wouldn't rip the cut on the CD
I've been working with; I suspect there's a problem with that track and
probably is nothing I can do with it!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 3:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Someone please correct me if I am wrong about any of the following, but the
Pro version costs $20, and as far as I know the only benefits are that you
get unlimited ripping speed and mp3 ripping capability. If there are any
other benefits, I don't know about them.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information


How much does the "pro" version of Winamp cost?  And what other perks do you
get with the "pro" version of Winamp that you don't get with the "free"
version?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Scanlon
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yes, and it costs very little.e.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kaufman

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 2:51 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information

I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information



I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
retail stors.



-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
use a device to do that?



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
I'll
check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
use
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


What are people re

RE: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello Evan and list:  So are there any advantages with ripping with Winamp,
as opposed to other CD rippers such as Cdex, WMP and MP3 Ripper?  BTW-I
installed MP3 Ripper a little while ago, but don't see how to  make it give
title and artist and such!  Besides, it still wouldn't rip the cut on the CD
I've been working with; I suspect there's a problem with that track and
probably is nothing I can do with it!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 3:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Someone please correct me if I am wrong about any of the following, but the 
Pro version costs $20, and as far as I know the only benefits are that you 
get unlimited ripping speed and mp3 ripping capability. If there are any 
other benefits, I don't know about them.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information


How much does the "pro" version of Winamp cost?  And what other perks do you
get with the "pro" version of Winamp that you don't get with the "free"
version?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Scanlon
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yes, and it costs very little.e.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kaufman
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 2:51 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information

I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information


>I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
>Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
>retail stors.
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
>
> Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
> else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.
>
>
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>
>> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
>> use a device to do that?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: CD Data And Information
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
>> just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
>> information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
>> or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
>>
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
>>> I'll
>>> check out Music Brains.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Alexandra
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>>>
>>> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
>>> organisation around which do a better job.
>>>
>>> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
>>> made
>>> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
>>> use
>>> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
>>>
>>> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
>>> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
>>> Brains.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>>>
 What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses
 Grassnote
>>> CDDB ?


 -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
 Sent: Tuesday, 

Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Evan Reese
Someone please correct me if I am wrong about any of the following, but the 
Pro version costs $20, and as far as I know the only benefits are that you 
get unlimited ripping speed and mp3 ripping capability. If there are any 
other benefits, I don't know about them.

Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information


How much does the "pro" version of Winamp cost?  And what other perks do you
get with the "pro" version of Winamp that you don't get with the "free"
version?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Scanlon
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yes, and it costs very little.e.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kaufman

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 2:51 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information

I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information



I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
retail stors.



-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
use a device to do that?



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
I'll
check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
use
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night

at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to
be
ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start
over?
Just wo

RE: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Steve Jacobson
I had a Carver TX11 tuner that received AM stereo and also a Sony pocket 
portable that did.  There is no doubt that the current HD system on AM is 
quieter and better sounding, but one has to have such a 
perfect signal that I find it pretty annoying.  In addition, stations that use 
HD on AM have to restrict their analog audio bandwidth.  I actually prefer a 
noisier but more reliable AM stereo system as was used here 
in the US in the 1980's.  Even more, that system did not interfere with 
adjacent stations as does the HD system does now.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 13:09:27 -0400, Tom Kaufman wrote:

>In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM stereo
>system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig and
>would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
>just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
>experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled to
>Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
>equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
>father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
>noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So just
>to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to tell
>me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
>totally amazed at how good it sounded!
>Tom Kaufman

>-Original Message-
>From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
>Reese
>Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>Subject: Re: Stereo AM

>Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a 
>stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have 
>two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you 
>could get the stereo sound.
>Evan

>- Original Message - 
>From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
>Subject: Stereo AM


>Back to the glory days of radio .

>Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does

>broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a 
>recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure 
>when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who 
>have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.
>


>**

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>Skype: grtdane12
>Phone US (213) 438-9741
>Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread Steve Jacobson
Dane,

Are these actual RF or Bluetooth?  I know that technically Bluetooth is RF, but 
I looked for some of the older type of RF headphones a year or so ago that have 
greater range than Bluetooth or similar types and 
found it is getting harder to tell what one is getting when one reads the 
package.  I bought some from Radio Shack, for example, that did not mention 
Bluetooth at all, and perhaps they didn't actually use that 
protocol, but the range was only the range of Bluetooth.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:40:51 +1100, Dane Trethowan wrote:

>Okay so what's the headset going to be used for, are you using it with a 
>computer and something like Skype or will you be using it with a radio or 
>something else.

>If looking for a Wireless Headset for your computer then the Logitech H600 is 
>worth a look, their's a nice Plantronics model which I have but can't remember 
>the name of it.

>both headsets are different, the Plantronics is a closed back type whilst the 
>Logitech is an open backed type, both go over the head and ears.


>On 5 Apr 2014, at 1:59 pm, John Chilelli  wrote:

>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset for my 
>> reading.
>> 
>> Has anyone had any experience with this headset?
>> 
>> Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones
>> 
>> Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 


>**

>Dane Trethowan
>Skype: grtdane12
>Phone US (213) 438-9741
>Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>Mobile: +61400494862
>faceTime +61400494862
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Re: Accessibility of the New amazon FireTV Set Top Box?

2014-04-05 Thread Salien Brown

That's very surprising. Will save my $99 then. Thanks for this info.

At 01:31 PM 4/5/2014, you wrote:
The Verge did a review of the Fire TV from a general 
perspective.  From what I've read, the Voice Search feature works 
wonderfully, but there's no auditory read out of the results i.e. 
you'll need to know the title of the movie for which you're 
looking.  Music search is not yet available, but is rummored to be coming soon.


The Boice Search, for now, is limited to Amazon products i.e. not 
with Net Flix, Hulu Plus, etc.


I have yet to see any info about accessibbility features other than 
Voice Search.

- Original Message - From: "Salien Brown" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:08 AM
Subject: Accessibility of the New amazon FireTV Set Top Box?



Hello,

I'm curious if anyone here knows if the new amazon Fire TV set top 
box has any voice capability built in? Hoping Amazon incorporated 
some of the voice features of the Kindle Fire into this new device.


I love my Apple TV box mainly for it has the Voice Over accessibility option.

I do have an Amazon Prime account and having the ability to listen 
to their massive library of movies/TV shows has my mouth watering. 
Also purchase a lot of music on Amazon, so I'm looking forward to 
accessing my music library via the use of Amazon's Cloud service 
through Fire TV.


If anyone can shed more light on the accessibility of Amazon's new 
Fire TV box please share. Thanks.









RE: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
How much does the "pro" version of Winamp cost?  And what other perks do you
get with the "pro" version of Winamp that you don't get with the "free"
version?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Scanlon
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 1:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yes, and it costs very little.e.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kaufman
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 2:51 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information

I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information


>I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
>Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
>retail stors.
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
>
> Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
> else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.
>
>
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>
>> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
>> use a device to do that?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: CD Data And Information
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
>> just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
>> information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
>> or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
>>
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
>>> I'll
>>> check out Music Brains.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Alexandra
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>>>
>>> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
>>> organisation around which do a better job.
>>>
>>> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
>>> made
>>> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
>>> use
>>> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
>>>
>>> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
>>> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
>>> Brains.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>>>
 What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses
 Grassnote
>>> CDDB ?


 -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

 I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
 google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
 avoid it like the black death.
 - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
 Subject: Problem Ripping A CD


> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
>>> night
> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to
> be
> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
>>> good
> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
>>> ripped?
> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start
> over?
> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it 

Re: Accessibility of the New amazon FireTV Set Top Box?

2014-04-05 Thread Clifford Blackwell
The Verge did a review of the Fire TV from a general perspective.  From what 
I've read, the Voice Search feature works wonderfully, but there's no 
auditory read out of the results i.e. you'll need to know the title of the 
movie for which you're looking.  Music search is not yet available, but is 
rummored to be coming soon.


The Boice Search, for now, is limited to Amazon products i.e. not with Net 
Flix, Hulu Plus, etc.


I have yet to see any info about accessibbility features other than Voice 
Search.
- Original Message - 
From: "Salien Brown" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:08 AM
Subject: Accessibility of the New amazon FireTV Set Top Box?



Hello,

I'm curious if anyone here knows if the new amazon Fire TV set top box has 
any voice capability built in? Hoping Amazon incorporated some of the 
voice features of the Kindle Fire into this new device.


I love my Apple TV box mainly for it has the Voice Over accessibility 
option.


I do have an Amazon Prime account and having the ability to listen to 
their massive library of movies/TV shows has my mouth watering. Also 
purchase a lot of music on Amazon, so I'm looking forward to accessing my 
music library via the use of Amazon's Cloud service through Fire TV.


If anyone can shed more light on the accessibility of Amazon's new Fire TV 
box please share. Thanks.








RE: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Hi Dane,

Thanks for that information. I didn't know that there was stereo am. 
Could you please post the direct link because all I found via google was a
guy introducing a stereo am tuner, announcing that he would play it and then
stopping after a quite boring show of unwrapping the thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25tOtuERp2w

Take care
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Stereo AM

Back to the glory days of radio .

Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does
broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a
recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure
when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who
have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.



**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Scanlon

Yes, and it costs very little.e.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kaufman

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 2:51 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information

I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information



I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
retail stors.



-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
use a device to do that?



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
I'll
check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
use
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night

at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to
be
ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start
over?
Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door
open
and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane










Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Scanlon

Yes, I agree winamp is good and it uses Gracenote.


-Original Message- 
From: Evan Reese

Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 2:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes
seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information


I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream 
retail stors.




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something 
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.



On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you 
use a device to do that?




-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I 
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the 
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains 
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
I'll

check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to 
use

like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night
at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to 
be

ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start 
over?

Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door 
open

and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane









Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, that's how I used to do it back in the 80s, was a Teenager then and had no 
buying power ., its a crewed way of doing it but it did work to an 
extent.

Of course, that procedure you outlined very much depended on the method of 
broadcasting Stereo AM.


On 6 Apr 2014, at 2:58 am, Evan Reese  wrote:

> Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a 
> stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have 
> two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you 
> could get the stereo sound.
> Evan
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
> Subject: Stereo AM
> 
> 
> Back to the glory days of radio .
> 
> Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does 
> broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a 
> recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure 
> when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who have 
> never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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RE: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
In the 90s. WSM (Nashville, Tennessee) was in AM stereo; we had an AM stereo
system in the car (a Lincoln Town Car) I remember riding home from a gig and
would have the Grand Ole Opry on one night; if the station would come in
just right, the "stereo" would kick in; it sounded great!  But my first
experience with hearing AM stereo (again it was with WSM) we had traveled to
Nashville; we had a Lincoln Town Car; I did not realize that the car was
equipped with AM stereo!  We had stopped to see about getting rooms (my
father and I stayed in the car and WSM was on the radio.But then I
noticed it was in stereo, so I figured "no; that couldn't be WSM!"  So just
to confirm what I thought my ear was telling me, I asked my father to tell
me what station the radio was on!  When he said 6500, then I knew and was
totally amazed at how good it sounded!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:59 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Stereo AM

Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a 
stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have 
two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you 
could get the stereo sound.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
Subject: Stereo AM


Back to the glory days of radio .

Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does

broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a 
recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure 
when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who 
have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.



**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








RE: Problem Ripping A CD

2014-04-05 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Right you are, but it's much better than FreeCDDB.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:10 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

One could argue that Gracenote is better than nothing, problems occur when
wrong information is entered say the artist or title of a track is spelt
wrongly, album name entered wrongly and so on and this happens all too
readily I'm afraid.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:

> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
> I'll check out Music Brains.
> 
> Take care,
> Alexandra
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for 
> CD organisation around which do a better job.
> 
> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
> made into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't 
> free to use like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
> 
> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD 
> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music 
> Brains.
> 
> 
> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
>> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
>> Grassnote
> CDDB ?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 
>> ripper, google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player 
>> in fact I avoid it like the black death.
>> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
>> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
> night
>>> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears 
>>> to be
>>> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been 
>>> a
> good
>>> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
> ripped?
>>> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the 
>>> latest version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and
start over?
>>> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions 
>>> of Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the 
>>> door open and that was that!
>>> 
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
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Re: Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Evan Reese
Back in the 80s when I was visiting my parents in California, there was a 
stero AM station. But I didn't have any stereo AM receivers. But I did have 
two portable radios. I discovered that if you tuned them just right, you 
could get the stereo sound.

Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:34 PM
Subject: Stereo AM


Back to the glory days of radio .

Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does 
broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a 
recording I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure 
when the content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who 
have never heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.




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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Accessibility of the New amazon FireTV Set Top Box?

2014-04-05 Thread Salien Brown

Hello,

I'm curious if anyone here knows if the new amazon Fire TV set top 
box has any voice capability built in? Hoping Amazon incorporated 
some of the voice features of the Kindle Fire into this new device.


I love my Apple TV box mainly for it has the Voice Over accessibility option.

I do have an Amazon Prime account and having the ability to listen to 
their massive library of movies/TV shows has my mouth watering. Also 
purchase a lot of music on Amazon, so I'm looking forward to 
accessing my music library via the use of Amazon's Cloud service 
through Fire TV.


If anyone can shed more light on the accessibility of Amazon's new 
Fire TV box please share. Thanks.





Stereo AM

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Back to the glory days of radio .

Actually we do have one radio station in Australia to my knowledge that does 
broadcast in AM Stereo to this day and that's 2CA Canberra, Here's a recording 
I found on Youtube of a station in the U.S. though I'm not sure when the 
content was actually aired, quite nice audio so - for those who have never 
heard stereo AM before - take a moment to enjoy.



**

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
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RE: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
Okay then; thanks, for my purposes, if I were to use Winamp as my CD Ripper,
I would need the pro version!  Thanks for the info!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

You don't have to have the Pro version to rip CDs, but there are some 
restrictions. First, you can't rip to mp3, but you can rip to m4a, and some 
other formats which I forget because I bought the Pro version a while back. 
Second, the free version only lets you rip at 8x, whereas the Pro version 
lets you rip at unlimited speed.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information


I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information


>I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
>Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
>retail stors.
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
>
> Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
> else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.
>
>
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>
>> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
>> use a device to do that?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: CD Data And Information
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
>> just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
>> information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
>> or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
>>
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
>>> I'll
>>> check out Music Brains.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Alexandra
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>>>
>>> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
>>> organisation around which do a better job.
>>>
>>> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
>>> made
>>> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
>>> use
>>> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
>>>
>>> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
>>> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
>>> Brains.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>>>
 What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses
 Grassnote
>>> CDDB ?


 -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

 I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
 google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
 avoid it like the black death.
 - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
 Subject: Problem Ripping A CD


> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
>>> night
> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to
> be
> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
>>> good
> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
>>> ripped?
>>>

Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Evan Reese
You don't have to have the Pro version to rip CDs, but there are some 
restrictions. First, you can't rip to mp3, but you can rip to m4a, and some 
other formats which I forget because I bought the Pro version a while back. 
Second, the free version only lets you rip at 8x, whereas the Pro version 
lets you rip at unlimited speed.

Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kaufman" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: CD Data And Information


I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores.
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information



I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream
retail stors.



-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you
use a device to do that?



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer 
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint.
I'll
check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to
use
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:


What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night

at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to
be
ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start
over?
Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door
open
and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 85

RE: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Tom Kaufman
I've never ripped CDs with Winamp!  But don't you have to have the "pro"
version to do this anyway?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in 
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes

seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition 
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I 
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores. 
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy 
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to 
get something I really want.
Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information


>I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
>Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream 
>retail stors.
>
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
>
> Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something 
> else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.
>
>
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>
>> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you 
>> use a device to do that?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: CD Data And Information
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I 
>> just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the 
>> information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains 
>> or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
>>
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
>>> I'll
>>> check out Music Brains.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>> Alexandra
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>>>
>>> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
>>> organisation around which do a better job.
>>>
>>> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
>>> made
>>> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to 
>>> use
>>> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
>>>
>>> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
>>> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
>>> Brains.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>>>
 What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
 Grassnote
>>> CDDB ?


 -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

 I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
 google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
 avoid it like the black death.
 - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
 Subject: Problem Ripping A CD


> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
>>> night
> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to 
> be
> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
>>> good
> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
>>> ripped?
> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start 
> over?
> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door 
> open
> and that was that!
>
> Tom Kaufman
>


>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>> faceTime +61400494862
>>> Fax +61397437954
>>> Twitter: @grtdane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> **
>>
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> f

Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Evan Reese
Most of the CDs I've ripped with Winamp are not ones you can find in 
mainstream stores, but Winamp was able to find the info for them. Gracenotes 
seems to know almost everything I throw at it, even obscure limited edition 
electronic music CDs. It's very seldom it doesn't know what a CD is, and I 
have a lot of stuff from genres that you won't find in mainstream stores. 
Nowadays though, I avoid buying physical CDs whenever I can and simply buy 
downloadable versions. I only buy physical CDs when I absolutely have to to 
get something I really want.

Evan

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scanlon" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information


I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream 
retail stors.




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something 
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.



On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you 
use a device to do that?




-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I 
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the 
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains 
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
I'll

check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to 
use

like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night
at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to 
be

ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start 
over?

Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door 
open

and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








**

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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
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Fax +61397437954
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correction: Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread john s

This unit is a set of headphones, and not a headset.  There is no microphone.


earlier, john s, wrote:
John, I have this headset and like it.  I wouldn't call it small but 
it is light weight.  We live in a house with aluminum siding and I 
still get good reception, outside.


earlier, John Chilelli, wrote:

Hi all,

I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset 
for my reading.


Has anyone had any experience with this headset?

Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones

Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00

Thanks,

John Chilelli


John



John




Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
The one you speak so highly of yourself, Exact Audio Copy.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 10:16 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

> They are orignals, but sold by bands at gigs or on sites.
> Which ripping program do you recommend for accuracy?
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:46 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
> 
> Unless they're not original CD'S and have come from somewhere else in the 
> form of copies, that's why its important to have CD Ripping software that 
> does accurate copying, the CD should have a barcode on the back which you can 
> read with your scanner which in tern will bring up the information.
> 
> If that fails then your friend Google can often then help out with 
> information.
> 
> 
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 8:19 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
>> I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
>> Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream retail 
>> stors.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
>> 
>> Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something else, 
>> I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>> 
>>> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you use 
>>> a device to do that?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: CD Data And Information
>>> 
>>> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I 
>>> just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the 
>>> information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains or 
>>> any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
>>> 
>>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:
>>> 
 Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. I'll
 check out Music Brains.
 
 Take care,
 Alexandra
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
 
 Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
 organisation around which do a better job.
 
 Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made
 into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use
 like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
 
 The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
 Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
 Brains.
 
 
 On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
 
> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote
 CDDB ?
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
> google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
> avoid it like the black death.
> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> 
>> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
 night
>> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
>> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
 good
>> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
 ripped?
>> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
>> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
>> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
>> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
>> and that was that!
>> 
>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
> 
> 
 
 
 **
 
 Dane Trethowan
 Skype: grtdane12
 Phone US (213) 438-9741
 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
 Mobile: +61400494862
 faceTime +61400494862
 Fax +61397437954
 Twitter: @grtdane
 
 
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>> faceTime +61400494862
>>> Fax +61397437954
>>> Twitter: @grtdane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>

Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Scanlon

They are orignals, but sold by bands at gigs or on sites.
Which ripping program do you recommend for accuracy?


-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:46 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Unless they're not original CD'S and have come from somewhere else in the 
form of copies, that's why its important to have CD Ripping software that 
does accurate copying, the CD should have a barcode on the back which you 
can read with your scanner which in tern will bring up the information.


If that fails then your friend Google can often then help out with 
information.



On 5 Apr 2014, at 8:19 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream 
retail stors.




-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something 
else, I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.



On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you 
use a device to do that?




-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I 
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the 
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains 
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  
wrote:


Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
I'll

check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to 
use

like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night
at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to 
be

ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start 
over?

Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door 
open

and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread john s
John, I have this headset and like it.  I wouldn't call it small but 
it is light weight.  We live in a house with aluminum siding and I 
still get good reception, outside.


earlier, John Chilelli, wrote:

Hi all,

I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset 
for my reading.


Has anyone had any experience with this headset?

Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones

Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00

Thanks,

John Chilelli


John




Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Unless they're not original CD'S and have come from somewhere else in the form 
of copies, that's why its important to have CD Ripping software that does 
accurate copying, the CD should have a barcode on the back which you can read 
with your scanner which in tern will bring up the information.

If that fails then your friend Google can often then help out with information.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 8:19 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

> I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
> Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream retail 
> stors.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: CD Data And Information
> 
> Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something else, 
> I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.
> 
> 
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
>> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you use a 
>> device to do that?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: CD Data And Information
>> 
>> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I just 
>> look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the information 
>> and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains or any other 
>> database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
>> 
>> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:
>> 
>>> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. I'll
>>> check out Music Brains.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> Alexandra
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>>> 
>>> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
>>> organisation around which do a better job.
>>> 
>>> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made
>>> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use
>>> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
>>> 
>>> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
>>> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
>>> Brains.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>>> 
 What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote
>>> CDDB ?
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
 Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
 
 I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
 google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
 avoid it like the black death.
 - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
 Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
 
 
> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
>>> night
> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
>>> good
> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
>>> ripped?
> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
> and that was that!
> 
> Tom Kaufman
> 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> 
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Skype: grtdane12
>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>>> Mobile: +61400494862
>>> faceTime +61400494862
>>> Fax +61397437954
>>> Twitter: @grtdane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> faceTime +61400494862
>> Fax +61397437954
>> Twitter: @grtdane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Scanlon
I think the reason I find that some of my CDs don't get found in the CD 
Databases is that they are not usually things available in mainstream retail 
stors.




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:53 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: CD Data And Information

Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something else, 
I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.



On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you use 
a device to do that?




-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I 
just look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the 
information and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains 
or any other database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:

Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
I'll

check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to 
use

like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night
at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to 
be

ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start 
over?

Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door 
open

and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, I use my iPhone but there's no reason why you can't use something else, 
I'm sure Barcode Reading pacages are available for Windows too.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:21 pm, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

> can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you use a 
> device to do that?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: CD Data And Information
> 
> Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I just 
> look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the information 
> and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains or any other 
> database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.
> 
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:
> 
>> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. I'll
>> check out Music Brains.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Alexandra
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
>> organisation around which do a better job.
>> 
>> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made
>> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use
>> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
>> 
>> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
>> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
>> Brains.
>> 
>> 
>> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
>> 
>>> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote
>> CDDB ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>>> 
>>> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
>>> google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
>>> avoid it like the black death.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
>>> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
>> night
 at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
 ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
>> good
 while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
>> ripped?
 I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
 version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
 Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
 Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
 and that was that!
 
 Tom Kaufman
 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> **
>> 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Skype: grtdane12
>> Phone US (213) 438-9741
>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
>> Mobile: +61400494862
>> faceTime +61400494862
>> Fax +61397437954
>> Twitter: @grtdane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Scanlon
can you explain that. How do you mena you look up the bar code? Do you use a 
device to do that?




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 7:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: CD Data And Information

Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I just 
look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the information 
and I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains or any other 
database, enter it into my Ripper directly etc.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:

Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. 
I'll

check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry 
made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to 
use

like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses 
Grassnote

CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD



Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other

night

at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a

good

while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be

ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door 
open

and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane








**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane






Re: Problem Ripping A CD

2014-04-05 Thread Peter Scanlon




-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD 
organisation around which do a better job.


Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made 
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use 
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.


The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD 
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music 
Brains.



On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote 
CDDB ?



-Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
avoid it like the black death.
- Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Problem Ripping A CD


Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other 
night

at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a 
good
while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be 
ripped?

I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
and that was that!

Tom Kaufman







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CD Data And Information

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Sorry, forgot to mention in my last message how I get CD information, I just 
look up the barcode on the back of the CD, from that I get the information and 
I can manipulate as required, enter it into Music Brains or any other database, 
enter it into my Ripper directly etc.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:

> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. I'll
> check out Music Brains.
> 
> Take care,
> Alexandra
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
> organisation around which do a better job.
> 
> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made
> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use
> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
> 
> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
> Brains.
> 
> 
> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
>> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote
> CDDB ?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
>> google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
>> avoid it like the black death.
>> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
>> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
> night
>>> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
>>> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
> good
>>> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
> ripped?
>>> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
>>> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
>>> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
>>> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
>>> and that was that!
>>> 
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

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Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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Re: Problem Ripping A CD

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
One could argue that Gracenote is better than nothing, problems occur when 
wrong information is entered say the artist or title of a track is spelt 
wrongly, album name entered wrongly and so on and this happens all too readily 
I'm afraid.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 7:04 pm, Alexandra Grünauer  wrote:

> Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. I'll
> check out Music Brains.
> 
> Take care,
> Alexandra
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
> organisation around which do a better job.
> 
> Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made
> into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use
> like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.
> 
> The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
> Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
> Brains.
> 
> 
> On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:
> 
>> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote
> CDDB ?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
>> google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
>> avoid it like the black death.
>> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
>> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
> night
>>> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
>>> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
> good
>>> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
> ripped?
>>> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
>>> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
>>> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
>>> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
>>> and that was that!
>>> 
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

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Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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RE: Problem Ripping A CD

2014-04-05 Thread Alexandra Grünauer
Gracenote is still quite good, though, but thanks, Dane, for the hint. I'll
check out Music Brains.

Take care,
Alexandra

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 9:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD

Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD
Converter - whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music
Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote
CDDB ?
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
> google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
> avoid it like the black death.
> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> 
>> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other
night
>> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
>> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a
good
>> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be
ripped?
>> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
>> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
>> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
>> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
>> and that was that!
>> 
>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
> 
> 


**

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Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah! remembered the name of the Plantronics Wireless headset I have, the 
Plantronics Audio 495.

On 5 Apr 2014, at 6:40 pm, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

> Okay so what's the headset going to be used for, are you using it with a 
> computer and something like Skype or will you be using it with a radio or 
> something else.
> 
> If looking for a Wireless Headset for your computer then the Logitech H600 is 
> worth a look, their's a nice Plantronics model which I have but can't 
> remember the name of it.
> 
> both headsets are different, the Plantronics is a closed back type whilst the 
> Logitech is an open backed type, both go over the head and ears.
> 
> 
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 1:59 pm, John Chilelli  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset for my 
>> reading.
>> 
>> Has anyone had any experience with this headset?
>> 
>> Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones
>> 
>> Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John Chilelli
>> 
> 
> 
> **
> 
> Dane Trethowan
> Skype: grtdane12
> Phone US (213) 438-9741
> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
> Mobile: +61400494862
> faceTime +61400494862
> Fax +61397437954
> Twitter: @grtdane
> 
> 
> 
> 


**

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Re: RF headset

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay so what's the headset going to be used for, are you using it with a 
computer and something like Skype or will you be using it with a radio or 
something else.

If looking for a Wireless Headset for your computer then the Logitech H600 is 
worth a look, their's a nice Plantronics model which I have but can't remember 
the name of it.

both headsets are different, the Plantronics is a closed back type whilst the 
Logitech is an open backed type, both go over the head and ears.


On 5 Apr 2014, at 1:59 pm, John Chilelli  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I need a decent but smallish, lightweight, over the ear RF headset for my 
> reading.
> 
> Has anyone had any experience with this headset?
> 
> Anyone have any good recommendations under $100.00?
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-RS120-Wireless-Headphones-Charging/dp/B0001FTVEK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396665015&sr=8-1&keywords=sennheiser+head+phones
> 
> Sorry, for some reason the link got broken.  It's on Amazon for like $87.00
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John Chilelli
> 


**

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Re: Problem Ripping A CD

2014-04-05 Thread Dane Trethowan
Gracenote is past history mate, there are other database services for CD 
organisation around which do a better job.

Once upon a not so long ago, Gracenote was good because every CD entry made 
into the database was checked but the Gracenote database wasn't free to use 
like it is now thus no checking is done any longer.

The later CD ripping software such as Easy CD DA Extractor or Easy CD Converter 
- whatever its called these days -, Max and others use Music Brains.


On 1 Apr 2014, at 8:05 am, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

> What are people recommending for best ripper which also accesses Grassnote 
> CDDB ?
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Byron Stephens
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 7:56 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> I would try a different ripper altogether like CDex or free mp3 ripper,
> google is your friend for that. I never ever use media player in fact I
> avoid it like the black death.
> - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:52 PM
> Subject: Problem Ripping A CD
> 
> 
>> Hello List:  Am currently trying to rip a CD that I bought the other night
>> at a concert; am using Windows Media to rip the CD (the CD appears to be
>> ripping) however it says "pending for all of the tracks and has been a good
>> while since it has changed!  Does this mean that this CD cannot be ripped?
>> I really am not sure of what is going on here!  Am running the latest
>> version of Jaws 15 with Windows 7; should I stop the rip and start over?
>> Just would like to know what is taking so long!  In older versions of
>> Windows Media, if it wasn't going to rip, it would just pop the door open
>> and that was that!
>> 
>> Tom Kaufman
>> 
> 
> 


**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane