Re: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Les Gordon]

the new remote on the apple tv really takes some getting use to. you can 
still use the old remote with the new apple tv,
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 6:48 PM
Subject: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV


For those in australia, Plus7 is now available on the Apple TV - I assume 
its the 4G model we’re talking about here -.


Plus7 is the Seven Networks “Catchup TV” service.

I’m looking forward to trying this when I get my Apple TV which will be 
early next year some time so therefore I can’t give any information as to 
the accessibility of the App but I doubt there’ll be any problems if my 
encounters with previous Apple TV offerings are anything to go by.



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Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Dane Trethowan]

For those in australia, Plus7 is now available on the Apple TV - I assume its 
the 4G model we’re talking about here -.

Plus7 is the Seven Networks “Catchup TV” service.

I’m looking forward to trying this when I get my Apple TV which will be early 
next year some time so therefore I can’t give any information as to the 
accessibility of the App but I doubt there’ll be any problems if my encounters 
with previous Apple TV offerings are anything to go by.


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Apple Airport Extreme

[Dane Trethowan]

I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately I 
was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.

In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in Australia is 
$349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the Asus obviously 
being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay the $50 extra.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does support 
> this protocol.
> However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
> Do you have a very big appartment?
> I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
> I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
> this list?
> I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
> changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
> We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
> streaming but not other streams.
> /A
>> 19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
>> unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, a 
>> shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the Express 
>> supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band if possible 
>> because its far less crowded.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
>>> for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
>>> AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
>>> there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
>>> Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
>>> Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
>>> years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
>>> Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
>>> the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
>>> robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
>>> etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
>>> systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from Apple
>>> devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
>>> so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
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>> 
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Jonathan Mosen has a book about the 4th gen Apple TV: wasRE: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Dane.

Subject says it all.  I've asked Santa for the 4th gen for Christmas, and I got 
Jonathan's book on the 4th gen Apple TV.  Not sure where the link is, since I 
clicked in the email Jonathan sent out.  I can see if I can find it if you need 
it.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
kmino...@outlook.com

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Les Gordon]

i'm not 100% sure but i dont think the open source firmware works with the 
new ac routers by linksys. i tried linksys for 2 different routers because 
thats all i used, when that didnt work, i switched to apple.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


Link sys have been bought out by Belkin over the last year so I don’t know 
whether the takeover has prompted a redesign of Linksys equipment.


If their products are no longer accessible then its a huge blow as they’re 
second to Asus it seems as far as performance goes.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 12:38 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 wrote:


last time I used a linksys router was about a year ago and didn't have any 
issues accessing it wich is why I was

trying to find out if things changed
am glad that they appear to not have broken things.
I used to use think it was
wrt firmware
its been a while sense I have had access to a routher that supported that 
but when I had the routher I loved that thing you could do so much with 
the open source firmware it wasn't even funny.

also got to boost my signal range a bit as well.
made the routher hot but it worked like a charm until the routher decided 
to give up the ghost

On 12/20/2015 6:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages 
since I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or 
otherwise Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 
years ago when I had one.


The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them 
plus you can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better 
Accessibility if that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i 
had one of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% 
out of 100% is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i 
never used asus before, i'm sure there very good as well.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you 
then all well and good.


All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport 
Extreme - as a new Router - is not worth considering given what else is 
available and I stick by that view.


Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy 
setup doesn’t mean its performance is the best.


Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever 
used also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and 
running in around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m 
willing to bet that other brands do too.


With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard 
will show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. 
the great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with 
the iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt 
accessible on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and 
unfortunately I was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.


In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in 
Australia is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , 
the Asus obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly 
pay the $50 extra.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  
wrote:


Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
support this protocol.

However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is 
ot for this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so 
i am changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next 
month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish 
radio streaming but not other streams.

/A
19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 

Re: dm620

[Stephanie Mitchell]

Has it got a belt clip on it? 
That's the main feature I need.
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Jim Portillo  
To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 3:28 pm
Subject: RE: dm620

>
>
> No.  It's a different one.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
> Mitchell
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:20 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Re: dm620
> 
> Does it have the same case as the dm520?
> Steph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jim Portillo  
> To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
> Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:41 pm
> Subject: RE: dm620
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Steph,
> > 
> > I think it compares rather well.  Except for some minor differences, 
> > you won't have any trouble with it.
> > 
> > It's about the same size is the 520.  Also, there's actually a menu 
> > button now rather than having to use that multi-function circular 
> > button that was also used for play/pause and select.
> > Neal Ewers did a wonderful podcast on this machine.
> > I'd get one.  I think Amazon has them for a good price right now.
> > I'm happy to answer as many questions as you'd like, as I use this 
> > recorder all the time.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Stephanie Mitchell
> > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
> > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > Subject: dm620
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so 
> > compact and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have 
> > a dm7, which has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling 
> > it, along with my
> > ls100 which I'd never used yet.
> > Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
> > Thanks,
> > Steph
> > 
> > Mitchell Piano Studio
> > Phone: 0450354342
> > Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> Mitchell Piano Studio
> Phone: 0450354342
> Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 
> 
> 

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Les Gordon]

great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had 
one of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out of 
100% is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never used 
asus before, i'm sure there very good as well.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you 
then all well and good.


All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - 
as a new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available and 
I stick by that view.


Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy 
setup doesn’t mean its performance is the best.


Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used 
also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in 
around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to bet 
that other brands do too.


With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard 
will show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. 
the great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the 
iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt 
accessible on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately 
I was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.


In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in 
Australia is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the 
Asus obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay 
the $50 extra.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  
wrote:


Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
support this protocol.

However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot 
for this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i 
am changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish 
radio streaming but not other streams.

/A

19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless 
Protocol, a shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact 
that the Express supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use 
the 5G band if possible because its far less crowded.




On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from Apple
devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.

Mary




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VPN On Asus RTAC3200 Router

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

I’ll try not to make this too technical in order that my email keeps on topic.

List members will know that a VPN can be used to gain access to content 
networks block such as various sporting events.

Up until now I’ve been using a VPN on each computer and activating that to 
listen to say English Football on 5 Live Extra.

Now I’ve discovered a more convenient way of doing things at least for me and 
that’s through the Router itself.

With the RTAC3200 the user can configure VPN clients.

This means that I don’t have to be near a computer to listen to English 
Football events, I can listen on my Logitech Smart Radio, Sangean WR28D or any 
other Internet radio that is connected to my Network.

When I’ve finished listening and using the VPN or I wish to change the location 
I just call up the Router Interface, reactive the current location I’m using 
and - if required - activate another.


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Re: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Dane Trethowan]

Thanks for that.

I’m going to have fun in a month’s time or thereabouts then.

Jonathan Mosen wrote a book on the Apple TV though I’m still trying to find out 
whether it covers the 3G or 4G, the book came out before the official release 
of the 4G.

For those who are interested - and if you don’t want to be bothered with Apps - 
the 3G Apple TV version is still being sold in the Apple Store - at least in 
Australia - but that of course means that you won’t get the benefit of Apps - 
but you can still enjoy things the way they are.

Another workaround with the new Apple TV might be a Bluetooth keyboard? As far 
as I know the 4G - like the 2G and 3G before it - will work with a Bluetooth 
keyboard.

The iPhone App I think mary is referring to is the Apple Remote App so I’ll 
take a look at that at the appropriate time.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:13 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, this new way of doing things on apple tv means you really can't
> go by previous experiences with older models. That is because they now
> have an app model rather than a channel model. So gone is the
> accessible grid-type layout. The remote is totally different. There is,
> as yet, no bt keyboard access, but there is apparently some sort of
> work around involving the use of an iPhone. Since I don't have the A tv
> 4, I didn't pay particular attention to the details. And, with the app
> model, it means that who ever develops the app for the channel or group
> of channels is free to make it as accessible or not as they wish.
> Hopefully, this one you just mentioned will have done the right thing
> with regard to implementing accessibility within their app.Netflix
> still hasn't managed to make  audio description accessible by the end
> user. You have to call them and hope you get a rep with a clue; they
> turn it on for you at their end, and then it is on for everybody all
> the time on any program that has it, whether they want it or not, e.g.
> somebody sighted who doesn't want it is out of luck. 
> 
> Hopefully, all this stuff will get ironed out in time, and the
> experience will end up being a positive one with more variety and
> flexibility than we enjoyed with older versions. I myself am not
> running out to buy one. 
> 
> Mary
> 
> 

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RE: dm620

[Jim Portillo]

Hi Steph,

I think it compares rather well.  Except for some minor differences, you
won't have any trouble with it.

It's about the same size is the 520.  Also, there's actually a menu button
now rather than having to use that multi-function circular button that was
also used for play/pause and select.
Neal Ewers did a wonderful podcast on this machine.
I'd get one.  I think Amazon has them for a good price right now.
I'm happy to answer as many questions as you'd like, as I use this recorder
all the time.

Jim


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: dm620

Hi all,
I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so compact
and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have a dm7, which
has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling it, along with my
ls100 which I'd never used yet.
Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
Thanks,
Steph

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

RE: dm620

[Hamit Campos]

Ooo how much ya want for the LS 100?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:31 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: dm620

Hi all,
I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so compact
and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have a dm7, which
has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling it, along with my
ls100 which I'd never used yet.
Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
Thanks,
Steph

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

Re: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Mary Otten]

Well, this new way of doing things on apple tv means you really can't
go by previous experiences with older models. That is because they now
have an app model rather than a channel model. So gone is the
accessible grid-type layout. The remote is totally different. There is,
as yet, no bt keyboard access, but there is apparently some sort of
work around involving the use of an iPhone. Since I don't have the A tv
4, I didn't pay particular attention to the details. And, with the app
model, it means that who ever develops the app for the channel or group
of channels is free to make it as accessible or not as they wish.
Hopefully, this one you just mentioned will have done the right thing
with regard to implementing accessibility within their app.Netflix
still hasn't managed to make  audio description accessible by the end
user. You have to call them and hope you get a rep with a clue; they
turn it on for you at their end, and then it is on for everybody all
the time on any program that has it, whether they want it or not, e.g.
somebody sighted who doesn't want it is out of luck. 

Hopefully, all this stuff will get ironed out in time, and the
experience will end up being a positive one with more variety and
flexibility than we enjoyed with older versions. I myself am not
running out to buy one. 

Mary

Dane, make sure you get the right Apple TV book.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi again, Dane.

You want to make sure you're getting the right Apple TV book.  It has the 4th 
gen in its title.

Just making sure you don't get the wrong book.

Kevin

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Dane Trethowan]

I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages since 
I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or otherwise 
Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 years ago when I 
had one.

The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them plus you 
can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better Accessibility if 
that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
> 
> great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had one 
> of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out of 100% 
> is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never used asus 
> before, i'm sure there very good as well.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme
> 
> 
> If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you then 
> all well and good.
> 
> All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
> something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - as 
> a new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available and I 
> stick by that view.
> 
> Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy setup 
> doesn’t mean its performance is the best.
> 
> Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used 
> also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in 
> around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to bet 
> that other brands do too.
> 
> With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
> windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard will 
> show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.
> 
> 
>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. the 
>> great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the 
>> iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt accessible 
>> on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>> 
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
>> Subject: Apple Airport Extreme
>> 
>> 
>> I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately I 
>> was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.
>> 
>> In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in Australia 
>> is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the Asus 
>> obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay the $50 
>> extra.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
>>> support this protocol.
>>> However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
>>> Do you have a very big appartment?
>>> I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
>>> I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
>>> this list?
>>> I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
>>> changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
>>> We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
>>> streaming but not other streams.
>>> /A
 19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :
 
 Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
 unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, 
 a shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the 
 Express supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band 
 if possible because its far less crowded.
 
 
 
 On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
> for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
> AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
> there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
> Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
> Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
> years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
> Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
> the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
> robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
> etc. I have a 

RE: dm620

[Jim Portillo]

No.  It can just fit in your pocket or whatever.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:32 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: dm620

Has it got a belt clip on it? 
That's the main feature I need.
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Jim Portillo  
To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 3:28 pm
Subject: RE: dm620

>
>
> No.  It's a different one.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Stephanie Mitchell
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:20 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Re: dm620
> 
> Does it have the same case as the dm520?
> Steph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Jim Portillo  
> To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
> Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:41 pm
> Subject: RE: dm620
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi Steph,
> > 
> > I think it compares rather well.  Except for some minor differences, 
> > you won't have any trouble with it.
> > 
> > It's about the same size is the 520.  Also, there's actually a menu 
> > button now rather than having to use that multi-function circular 
> > button that was also used for play/pause and select.
> > Neal Ewers did a wonderful podcast on this machine.
> > I'd get one.  I think Amazon has them for a good price right now.
> > I'm happy to answer as many questions as you'd like, as I use this 
> > recorder all the time.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Stephanie Mitchell
> > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
> > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > Subject: dm620
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so 
> > compact and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I 
> > have a dm7, which has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of 
> > selling it, along with my
> > ls100 which I'd never used yet.
> > Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
> > Thanks,
> > Steph
> > 
> > Mitchell Piano Studio
> > Phone: 0450354342
> > Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> Mitchell Piano Studio
> Phone: 0450354342
> Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com
> 
> 

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

Re: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Dane Trethowan]

Do you navigate using the new remote as you would on a touch screen for an IOS 
device or is that slightly different again.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 10:50 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
> 
> the new remote on the apple tv really takes some getting use to. you can 
> still use the old remote with the new apple tv,
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 6:48 PM
> Subject: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV
> 
> 
> For those in australia, Plus7 is now available on the Apple TV - I assume its 
> the 4G model we’re talking about here -.
> 
> Plus7 is the Seven Networks “Catchup TV” service.
> 
> I’m looking forward to trying this when I get my Apple TV which will be early 
> next year some time so therefore I can’t give any information as to the 
> accessibility of the App but I doubt there’ll be any problems if my 
> encounters with previous Apple TV offerings are anything to go by.
> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
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halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Mary Otten]

Nope. No bluetooth keyboard, or that's what I've read in the mainstream
tech press. That's the bummer. The layout for typing on the new one
stinks and no bluetooth keyboard support. But there is something you
can do with an iphone to enable a better typing experience; that's what
I was mentioning in my other message on this thread. I should have paid
more attention to the steps, I guess, but since I wasn't going to buy
the new tv any time soon, and I have enough trouble remembering stuff I
need to know,  Well, you get the picture. 

Mary

Re: dm620

[Stephanie Mitchell]

Does it have the same case as the dm520?
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Jim Portillo  
To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:41 pm
Subject: RE: dm620

>
>
> Hi Steph,
> 
> I think it compares rather well.  Except for some minor differences, you
> won't have any trouble with it.
> 
> It's about the same size is the 520.  Also, there's actually a menu button
> now rather than having to use that multi-function circular button that was
> also used for play/pause and select.
> Neal Ewers did a wonderful podcast on this machine.
> I'd get one.  I think Amazon has them for a good price right now.
> I'm happy to answer as many questions as you'd like, as I use this recorder
> all the time.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
> Mitchell
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: dm620
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so compact
> and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have a dm7, which
> has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling it, along with my
> ls100 which I'd never used yet.
> Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
> Thanks,
> Steph
> 
> Mitchell Piano Studio
> Phone: 0450354342
> Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 
> 
> 

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

Re: dm620

[Stephanie Mitchell]

aI'm not sure, a few hundred, maybe about $200?
Only thing is, I'm in Australia so not sure about the shipping side of things. 
It's basically brand new, only used once. 
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Hamit Campos  
To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 3:06 pm
Subject: RE: dm620

>
>
> Ooo how much ya want for the LS 100?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
> Mitchell
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:31 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: dm620
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so compact
> and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have a dm7, which
> has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling it, along with my
> ls100 which I'd never used yet.
> Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
> Thanks,
> Steph
> 
> Mitchell Piano Studio
> Phone: 0450354342
> Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 
> 
> 
> 

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Les Gordon]

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. the 
great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the 
iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt accessible 
on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.


- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately I 
was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.


In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in Australia 
is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the Asus 
obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay the $50 
extra.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
support this protocol.

However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot 
for this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish 
radio streaming but not other streams.

/A

19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, 
a shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the 
Express supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band 
if possible because its far less crowded.




On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from Apple
devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.

Mary




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Re: Jonathan Mosen has a book about the 4th gen Apple TV: wasRE: Plus7 Now Available On Apple TV

[Dane Trethowan]

that’s okay about the link, I have it here so thanks for the confirmation that 
the book covers the latest Apple TV version.

For those interested you can find a review of the book in a previous edition of 
AFB’S Access World.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:30 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dane.
> 
> Subject says it all.  I've asked Santa for the 4th gen for Christmas, and I 
> got Jonathan's book on the 4th gen Apple TV.  Not sure where the link is, 
> since I clicked in the email Jonathan sent out.  I can see if I can find it 
> if you need it.
> 
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
> kmino...@outlook.com

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Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

last time I used a linksys router was about a year ago and didn't have 
any issues accessing it wich is why I was

trying to find out if things changed
am glad that they appear to not have broken things.
I used to use think it was
wrt firmware
its been a while sense I have had access to a routher that supported 
that but when I had the routher I loved that thing you could do so much 
with the open source firmware it wasn't even funny.

also got to boost my signal range a bit as well.
made the routher hot but it worked like a charm until the routher 
decided to give up the ghost

On 12/20/2015 6:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages since 
I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or otherwise 
Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 years ago when I 
had one.

The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them plus you 
can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better Accessibility if 
that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had one 
of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out of 100% is 
accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never used asus 
before, i'm sure there very good as well.

- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you then 
all well and good.

All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - as a 
new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available and I stick 
by that view.

Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy setup 
doesn’t mean its performance is the best.

Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used also 
have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in around 2 
minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to bet that other 
brands do too.

With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard will 
show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. the 
great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the iphone, 
100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt accessible on the 
airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.

- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately I 
was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.

In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in Australia is $349 
so I need not say any more on the subject , the Asus obviously being a 
far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay the $50 extra.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does support 
this protocol.
However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
streaming but not other streams.
/A

19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, a 
shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the Express 
supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band if possible 
because its far less crowded.



On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
Mac. That has not always been true of all routers 

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Dane Trethowan]

I’m not specifically sure about the Open Source stuff with Linksys, I know 8 
years ago there was no problem with it.

Anyway if you can find out if the Linksys router will support open source 
firmware, if so then its more than likely that the firmware of the Router will 
be accessible and - if it ain’t - then it can be usually fixed inside 24 hours 
to a week.

I like you switched from Linksys to Apple 8 years ago but that was then and 
this is now, a lot has changed and Apple - whether deliberately or not - just 
haven’t kept up with the changes when it comes to Airport Extreme.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 12:53 PM, Les Gordon  wrote:
> 
> i'm not 100% sure but i dont think the open source firmware works with the 
> new ac routers by linksys. i tried linksys for 2 different routers because 
> thats all i used, when that didnt work, i switched to apple.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme
> 
> 
> Link sys have been bought out by Belkin over the last year so I don’t know 
> whether the takeover has prompted a redesign of Linksys equipment.
> 
> If their products are no longer accessible then its a huge blow as they’re 
> second to Asus it seems as far as performance goes.
> 
> 
>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 12:38 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> last time I used a linksys router was about a year ago and didn't have any 
>> issues accessing it wich is why I was
>> trying to find out if things changed
>> am glad that they appear to not have broken things.
>> I used to use think it was
>> wrt firmware
>> its been a while sense I have had access to a routher that supported that 
>> but when I had the routher I loved that thing you could do so much with the 
>> open source firmware it wasn't even funny.
>> also got to boost my signal range a bit as well.
>> made the routher hot but it worked like a charm until the routher decided to 
>> give up the ghost
>> On 12/20/2015 6:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages 
>>> since I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or 
>>> otherwise Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 
>>> years ago when I had one.
>>> 
>>> The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them plus 
>>> you can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better Accessibility 
>>> if that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
 
 great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had 
 one of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out 
 of 100% is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never 
 used asus before, i'm sure there very good as well.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
 
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
 Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme
 
 
 If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you 
 then all well and good.
 
 All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
 something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - 
 as a new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available 
 and I stick by that view.
 
 Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy 
 setup doesn’t mean its performance is the best.
 
 Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used 
 also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in 
 around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to 
 bet that other brands do too.
 
 With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
 windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard 
 will show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.
 
 
> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
> 
> i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. 
> the great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with 
> the iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt 
> accessible on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
> Subject: Apple Airport Extreme
> 
> 
> I did some further 

dm620

[Stephanie Mitchell]

Hi all,
I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so compact and 
small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have a dm7, which has 
good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling it, along with my ls100 
which I'd never used yet.
Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
Thanks,
Steph

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

RE: dm620

[Jim Portillo]

No.  It's a different one.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie
Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:20 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: dm620

Does it have the same case as the dm520?
Steph

- Original Message -
From: Jim Portillo  
To: "'Pc Audio Discussion List'"  
Date: Monday, December 21, 2015 2:41 pm
Subject: RE: dm620

>
>
> Hi Steph,
> 
> I think it compares rather well.  Except for some minor differences, 
> you won't have any trouble with it.
> 
> It's about the same size is the 520.  Also, there's actually a menu 
> button now rather than having to use that multi-function circular 
> button that was also used for play/pause and select.
> Neal Ewers did a wonderful podcast on this machine.
> I'd get one.  I think Amazon has them for a good price right now.
> I'm happy to answer as many questions as you'd like, as I use this 
> recorder all the time.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Stephanie Mitchell
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: dm620
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm thinking of huying a dm620. My dm520 still works, but it's so 
> compact and small, with fairly good sound I'd like another one. I have 
> a dm7, which has good sound, but it's huge and I'm thinking of selling 
> it, along with my
> ls100 which I'd never used yet.
> Anyway, how does the 620 compare with the 520?
> Thanks,
> Steph
> 
> Mitchell Piano Studio
> Phone: 0450354342
> Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com
> 
> 

Mitchell Piano Studio
Phone: 0450354342
Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com 

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

a shame sense linksys routers used to be verry blind friendly

On 12/20/2015 5:54 PM, Les Gordon wrote:
great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i 
had one of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 
2% out of 100% is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with 
it. i never used asus before, i'm sure there very good as well.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for 
you then all well and good.


All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport 
Extreme - as a new Router - is not worth considering given what else 
is available and I stick by that view.


Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an 
easy setup doesn’t mean its performance is the best.


Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever 
used also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and 
running in around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then 
I’m willing to bet that other brands do too.


With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility 
for windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the 
wizard will show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything 
else. the great thing is they just work, no issues, they work 
perfectly with the iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one 
thing that isnt accessible on the airport extreme. setup is the 
easiest ever.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and 
unfortunately I was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.


In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in 
Australia is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , 
the Asus obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d 
gladly pay the $50 extra.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  
wrote:


Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme 
does support this protocol.

However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is 
ot for this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl 
so i am changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next 
month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the 
swedish radio streaming but not other streams.

/A
19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan 
:


Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site 
and unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless 
Protocol, a shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the 
fact that the Express supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is 
helpful, use the 5G band if possible because its far less crowded.




On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have 
the

AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, 
android and
Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is 
long in

the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better 
distance

etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from 
Apple

devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.

Mary




--

**
Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves







**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest 
of the halfwits in this world behind.







**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of 
the halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Dane Trethowan]

If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you then 
all well and good.

All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - as a 
new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available and I stick 
by that view.

Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy setup 
doesn’t mean its performance is the best.

Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used also 
have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in around 2 
minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to bet that other 
brands do too.

With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard will 
show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
> 
> i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. the 
> great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the 
> iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt accessible 
> on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
> Subject: Apple Airport Extreme
> 
> 
> I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately I 
> was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.
> 
> In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in Australia 
> is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the Asus obviously 
> being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay the $50 extra.
> 
> 
>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
>> support this protocol.
>> However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
>> Do you have a very big appartment?
>> I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
>> I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
>> this list?
>> I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
>> changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
>> We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
>> streaming but not other streams.
>> /A
>>> 19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>>> 
>>> Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
>>> unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, a 
>>> shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the Express 
>>> supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band if 
>>> possible because its far less crowded.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
 Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
 for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
 AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
 there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
 Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
 Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
 years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
 Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
 the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
 robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
 etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
 systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from Apple
 devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
 so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.
 
 Mary
 
 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> 
>>> **
>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: Dane, make sure you get the right Apple TV book.

[Dane Trethowan]

I’ll keep that in mind when buying and and I’m sure others will find this 
helpful info too.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:53 AM, Kevin Minor  wrote:
> 
> Hi again, Dane.
> 
> You want to make sure you're getting the right Apple TV book.  It has the 4th 
> gen in its title.
> 
> Just making sure you don't get the wrong book.
> 
> Kevin

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Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Dane Trethowan]

Link sys have been bought out by Belkin over the last year so I don’t know 
whether the takeover has prompted a redesign of Linksys equipment.

If their products are no longer accessible then its a huge blow as they’re 
second to Asus it seems as far as performance goes.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 12:38 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
>  wrote:
> 
> last time I used a linksys router was about a year ago and didn't have any 
> issues accessing it wich is why I was
> trying to find out if things changed
> am glad that they appear to not have broken things.
> I used to use think it was
> wrt firmware
> its been a while sense I have had access to a routher that supported that but 
> when I had the routher I loved that thing you could do so much with the open 
> source firmware it wasn't even funny.
> also got to boost my signal range a bit as well.
> made the routher hot but it worked like a charm until the routher decided to 
> give up the ghost
> On 12/20/2015 6:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages 
>> since I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or 
>> otherwise Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 
>> years ago when I had one.
>> 
>> The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them plus 
>> you can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better Accessibility 
>> if that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had 
>>> one of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out of 
>>> 100% is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never used 
>>> asus before, i'm sure there very good as well.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> 
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you 
>>> then all well and good.
>>> 
>>> All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
>>> something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - 
>>> as a new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available and 
>>> I stick by that view.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy 
>>> setup doesn’t mean its performance is the best.
>>> 
>>> Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used 
>>> also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in 
>>> around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to 
>>> bet that other brands do too.
>>> 
>>> With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
>>> windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard 
>>> will show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:
 
 i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. 
 the great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the 
 iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt 
 accessible on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.
 
 - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
 
 To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
 Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
 Subject: Apple Airport Extreme
 
 
 I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately 
 I was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.
 
 In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in 
 Australia is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the 
 Asus obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay 
 the $50 extra.
 
 
> On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
> support this protocol.
> However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
> Do you have a very big appartment?
> I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
> I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot 
> for this list?
> I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i 
> am changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
> We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish 
> radio streaming but not other streams.
> /A
>> 19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan 

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

I am using a Belkin routher as we speak
was unaware that linksys bought them out.
On 12/20/2015 6:42 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Link sys have been bought out by Belkin over the last year so I don’t know 
whether the takeover has prompted a redesign of Linksys equipment.

If their products are no longer accessible then its a huge blow as they’re 
second to Asus it seems as far as performance goes.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 12:38 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 wrote:

last time I used a linksys router was about a year ago and didn't have any 
issues accessing it wich is why I was
trying to find out if things changed
am glad that they appear to not have broken things.
I used to use think it was
wrt firmware
its been a while sense I have had access to a routher that supported that but 
when I had the routher I loved that thing you could do so much with the open 
source firmware it wasn't even funny.
also got to boost my signal range a bit as well.
made the routher hot but it worked like a charm until the routher decided to 
give up the ghost
On 12/20/2015 6:25 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages since 
I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or otherwise 
Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 years ago when I 
had one.

The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them plus you 
can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better Accessibility if 
that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had one 
of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out of 100% is 
accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never used asus 
before, i'm sure there very good as well.

- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you then 
all well and good.

All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - as a 
new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available and I stick 
by that view.

Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy setup 
doesn’t mean its performance is the best.

Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used also 
have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in around 2 
minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to bet that other 
brands do too.

With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard will 
show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. the 
great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with the iphone, 
100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt accessible on the 
airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.

- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and unfortunately I 
was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.

In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in Australia is $349 
so I need not say any more on the subject , the Asus obviously being a 
far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay the $50 extra.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:

Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does support 
this protocol.
However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
streaming but not other streams.
/A

19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, a 
shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the Express 
supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, 

Re: Apple Airport Extreme

[Les Gordon]

thats great asus is like that. linksys is bad, there customer support is 
even worse. your right the old ones from 8 years ago were very simple to use 
and accessible. but very sadly not anymore. its great asus isnt changing to 
many things.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dane Trethowan" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


I was only using the name Linksys for an example, its been absolute ages 
since I’ve used one of their Routers so I have no idea how accessible or 
otherwise Linksys Routers are now but they were certainly very usable 8 
years ago when I had one.


The Asus Routers have always been good in all the time I’ve owned them plus 
you can upgrade to Open Source firmware which has even better Accessibility 
if that’s the sort of thing you’d like to try.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:54 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

great view to have, linksys routers are horrible for accessibility. i had 
one of there new ac routers and forget about accessibility. maybe 2% out 
of 100% is accessible, so you basically cant do anything with it. i never 
used asus before, i'm sure there very good as well.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Airport Extreme


If you’re happy with what you’re using then fine and if it works for you 
then all well and good.


All I’m saying is that - if you have the choice and you’re looking for 
something new or to upgrade to something good - then the Airport Extreme - 
as a new Router - is not worth considering given what else is available 
and I stick by that view.


Yes, the setup is easy but just because the Airport Extreme has an easy 
setup doesn’t mean its performance is the best.


Actually let the truth be told, all the Asus Wi-Fi Routers I’ve ever used 
also have a very easy setup wizard which will have you up and running in 
around 2 minutes so if Asus has an easy setup wizard then I’m willing to 
bet that other brands do too.


With the Asus Routers you don’t need to download any special utility for 
windows, the minute your computer is connected to your Router the wizard 
will show up if the Router hasn’t already been configured.




On 21 Dec 2015, at 11:35 AM, Les Gordon  wrote:

i have 2 apple airport extreme's and i'd never change to anything else. 
the great thing is they just work, no issues, they work perfectly with 
the iphone, 100% totally accessible, there is not one thing that isnt 
accessible on the airport extreme. setup is the easiest ever.


- Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 


To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:31 PM
Subject: Apple Airport Extreme


I did some further research on the Apple AirPort Extreme and 
unfortunately I was absolutely right regarding the price of the thing.


In Australia it can be purchased for $299 and the Asus RTAC3200 in 
Australia is $349 so I need not say any more on the subject , the 
Asus obviously being a far better piece of equipment and I’d gladly pay 
the $50 extra.



On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  
wrote:


Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does 
support this protocol.

However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot 
for this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i 
am changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish 
radio streaming but not other streams.

/A

19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless 
Protocol, a shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact 
that the Express supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use 
the 5G band if possible because its far less crowded.




On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android 
and

Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is 

Logitech Smar Tradio Is Smart!

[Dane Trethowan]

Hi!

This all goes back to the Logitech Squeezebox Boom I bought 4 years ago.

Though the Boom isn’t officially supported any longer it still does work though 
it cannot be updated so the question is just how long will it work, shame but 
there we are.

I also bought a Logitech Squeezebox Radio not long after and with that set I’ve 
had better luck as the Squeezebox Radio can be updated to a current Logitech 
Smart Radio.

As luck would have it I had the opportunity of getting another Logitech 
Squeezebox Radio which already had the Smart Radio update applied thus I was 
able to see the difference between the two systems.

It soon became apparent to me that if I wanted to keep enjoying a good Internet 
Radio experience from the Squeezebox Radio then I’d best apply the Smart Radio 
update.

Whilst in some respect the web controller isn’t as nice with the Smart Radio as 
it was with the Squeezebox Radio the system itself is more flexible with far 
more listening choices and lots more features and functionality than Squeezebox 
offered.

If you want the extra functionality then you have to do a little digging to 
find it and a little research, the best way to get the extra stuff - from an 
accessibility point of view - is to use an IOS device and download the iPeng 
Smart Radio App.  Start this App, connect it to your Smart Radio Account, Power 
on your Smart Radios and get radio to explore and be amazed.

All of the settings and features - including some I never knew existed - are 
easily available here including my favourite which is “Sync”.

This function allows the syncing of 2 Logitech Smart Radio sets together thus 
you can control the whole system from one Smart Radio or control it from the 
iPeng App itself which is the better way of controlling in my view.

Select a station to play from the app and all synced radios immediately jump to 
attention and start playing the selected station.

Select a station from one of your programmed music services such as radio 
tunes.com and you’ll hear that station in stereo through your synced radios.

press a preset button on one of the synced radios and the others tune to that 
preset.

There are heaps of music services you can programme such as Spotify, Digitally 
Imported, Radiotunes.com, BBC Radio etc.

Its more than likely you won’t find any Squeezebox Radio sets for sale now but 
you will find the Logitech Smart Radio still readily available which will do 
just fine.

Unfortunately the iPeng Smart Radio App isn’t available for Android to my 
knowledge.

Logitech have a Smart Radio Mobile App obviously but the controls and 
functionality are nowhere near as detailed as the offering from iPeng.


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

Re: enjoy uninterrupted audio/video streaming

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does support 
this protocol.
However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
Do you have a very big appartment?
I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
this list?
I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
streaming but not other streams.
/A
> 19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :
> 
> Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
> unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, a 
> shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the Express 
> supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band if possible 
> because its far less crowded.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
>> for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
>> AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
>> there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
>> Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
>> Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
>> years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
>> Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
>> the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
>> robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
>> etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
>> systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from Apple
>> devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
>> so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
> 

Re: enjoy uninterrupted audio/video streaming

[Dane Trethowan]

The apartment size isn’t so much an issue these days rather the other people 
who are using Wi-Fi networks and there are around a dozen of those near me 
according to my scan.

My Wi-Fi travels right up the road to the Doctors surgery 2 doors away though I 
don’t think I’d be too reliant on enjoying uninterrupted Audio Streaming from 
there, haven’t tried it yet.

How do I know about Bottle necks in Routers and so on? By reading technical 
forums and the like and white papers regarding various devices.  Its 
unfortunate that the Airport Extreme suffers from this and its unfortunate 
because of the price tag for one of these units so in the end, if you’re 
thinking of an Extreme then you may as well bite the bullet and get something 
far better like the Asus RTAC3200 Tri-Band Router.

Apple really should be ashamed of themselves offering the Extreme at this price 
tag with a very poor performance.  The design of the Extreme hasn’t really 
changed since its inception and the only thing that has changed is the addition 
of the new AAC protocol but even then the Extreme doesn’t perform well.

As Mary mentioned, the Extreme is very easy to set up thanks to the utility but 
functionality of the Extreme is incredibly limited compared to other Routers 
and for the price I’d expect far more.

No, I’e not used an Airport Extreme as such but I have used a Time Capsule and 
the only difference between the Extreme and Time Capsule as far as I’m aware is 
that the Time Capsule has a built-in Hard Drive whereas the Extrem does not.

The Extreme doesn’t even have a DLNA Media Server even though it has a USB port 
and in a modern day Router? Well that’s just a joke.


> On 21 Dec 2015, at 5:44 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> I’d thought it would support it because my newer airport extreme does support 
> this protocol.
> However you mentioned that it was a bottle neck for data.
> Do you have a very big appartment?
> I have not so i wonder if this makes any difference?
> I also wonder how it can be a bottle neck for data but maybe this is ot for 
> this list?
> I have had problems with my broadband connection which is 8 gb dsl so i am 
> changing to a 100 mbit cable modem and another carrier next month.
> We’ll see how this works because i have had problems with the swedish radio 
> streaming but not other streams.
> /A
>> 19 dec. 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Dane Trethowan :
>> 
>> Okay, just checekd the Apple Airport Express on the Apple web site and 
>> unfortunately the unit doesn't seem to support the AAC Wireless Protocol, a 
>> shame but N is certainly better than B or G and the fact that the Express 
>> supports both 2.$ and 5G radio bands is helpful, use the 5G band if possible 
>> because its far less crowded.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/19/2015 11:54 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> Do you still use Macs? I have an airport extreme router that I've had
>>> for several years. It is behind the times, in that it doesn't have the
>>> AC protocol. Then again, I'm using an xp box to type this note, so
>>> there you go. Anyway, one of the things I have appreciated about that
>>> Apple router is that the airport utility is so easy to use from the
>>> Mac. That has not always been true of all routers I've seen over the
>>> years. And it, the router that is, works well with Windoes, android and
>>> Apple devices of various flavors. But as stated earlier, it is long in
>>> the tooth and could undoubtedly stand to be updated to something more
>>> robust that has the newer protocol for higher speed and better distance
>>> etc. I have a couple of older airport expresses connected to sound
>>> systems in various parts of the house for airplay streaming from Apple
>>> devices. There again, having that airport extreme as the head router,
>>> so  to speak, has worked wonderfully.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> **
>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.