RE: using Total Recorder 7 with software speech

2008-04-24 Thread Ray's Home
Can someone highlite the differences between the latest versions of
Total Recorder and Replay AV Please?  Beginning to look as if they both
do very similar things.

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-Original Message-
Larry Higgins
Subject: RE: using Total Recorder 7 with software speech


Just curious. Can you record without hearing your screen reader with
Replay AV?

At 02:11 PM 4/23/2008, you wrote:
In fact, I don't think there's much we can do about it, but I can
always
hope that somebody can find a loophole.  Here is my response received
from
High Criteria support:

Hello Dean Martineau,

Under Windows Vista with Total Recorder an output of another software
(including Internet transmission) can be recorded in three ways:

The first one is in SoundBoard mode from a loop-back line. Regretfully
in this case you cannot avoid recording your screen-reader.

The second way is in Software mode using the Total Recorder user-mode
audio driver (for more information on using Total Recorder drivers
please refer to the following link
http://www.totalrecorder.com/tr_drivers.htm). Using this method you can
set Total Recorder to record an output only of a certain application.
Regretfully this method will not work with the majority of playback
program.

The third way is in Software mode using the Total Recorder kernel-mode
audio driver. For Total Recorder not to record a screen-reader in this
case you can try one of the following:

1) set a screen-reader to use directly your soundcard driver (not Total
Recorder driver);
2) do not set the Total Recorder driver as a system default device, but
set a playback program an output of which you need to record to use the
Total Recorder kernel-mode driver.

Regards,
High Criteria Support Team.




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i would like to know this as well, since all i get is the software
speech in

my recordings?
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From: Dean Martineau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:12 AM
Subject: using Total Recorder 7 with software speech


  It seems that, while Total Recorder 7 does allow recording using
Vista,
  its
  former ability to separate out software speech and record only the
desired
  source has gone away with the new kernel driver.  Has anybody
successfully
  made a recording with it and maintained screen reader use? I can't
figure
  out how to do it.
 
  Dean



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RE: using Total Recorder 7 with software speech

2008-04-24 Thread Ray's Home
Mike, thanks for such a detailed rundown  of RAV which I do have as a
trial at the moment.

At first it wouldn't pick up on my Delta Audio mixer, but it did sort
itself out eventually, so I shalll very likely purchase AV Recorder now.

Be interesting to see comments of T R users if any come along.

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RE: GoldWave Information Needed

2008-03-30 Thread Ray's Home
Can't add much to this as I'm not a Goldwave user at present.

The obvious difference now between the latest version, nine, of Sound
Forge and GW is that SF is now a multichannel recorder.  Note,
multi-channel, not multi-track.

Some swear by SN's noise reduction, but then I've not made the
comparison with Goldwave.

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-Original Message-
Bruce Toews
Subject: Re: GoldWave Information Needed


Probably few, except that over the last little while, the designer of
Gold
Wave has become quite accessibility-conscious, so has worked to make
an
already accessible program even more so. But if you're happy with
Sound
Forge, I can think of few incentives to switch.

bruce

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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Peter Scanlon wrote:

 I've been happy using Sound Forge, so have not followed very closely
 discussions on the pluses for Goldwave  compared to Sound Forge.
 What are the good features that one might find in GoldWave that
Sound Forge
 does not have?




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 Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 5:15 AM
 Subject: Re: GoldWave Information Needed


 I haven't used the new features enough sadly to give any useful
info.  I do
 like the way the left and right arrow keys now move you through
your file.
 I like the added marker movements such as control + Shift end to
move the
 finish marker to the end of the file.  Useful when your editing and
have
 moved the finish marker and want it back out to the end of file.

 I need to get on the ball and get a part 7 done that addresses the
newest
 features of GW.

 Rick

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 From: Curtis Delzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:06 PM
 Subject: Re: GoldWave Information Needed


 Hey, Rick, if you had to add to your wonderful description of GW in
your
 tutorial, with the newer versions how would you describe the
differences?

 Curtis Delzer
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 5.23 works great.

 Rick

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 Subject: GoldWave Information Needed


 I've been out of the loop for a while-nasty computer problems and
such.



 What is the latest version of GoldWave that works well with screen
 readers?



 Thanks.



 Dan Kerstetter



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RE: audio editor in nero 8

2008-03-16 Thread Ray's Home
If the audio editor in v8 of Nero is anything like previous versions,
then forget it.  Not enough native keyboard support.

Suppose scripts could do something about this, but it's not as though
we've not got decent access to other audio editors.

Still, this said, it would be nice to be able to use the editor in
situ when compiling a track list in Nero, which of course you can do
from the context menu.

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-Original Message-
Dan Thompson
Subject: audio editor in nero 8


has anyone use the audio editor in nero 8 with sscreenreaders?  If so,
how
does it do as  compared to soundforge or adobe audition 1.5?  Thanks
in
advance.




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RE: sound editing?

2008-03-01 Thread Ray's Home
I'm not Sarah, but as I understand it, multi-track editing and midi
and sequencing type stuff?

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Subject: Re: sound editing?


Sarah, what can you achieve with Sonar, you cannot with goldwave or
Soundforge?,
Billy


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 If you want the best of the best you should go with sonar. Goldwave
and
 sound fordge do mostly the same thing except goldwave is a
 lot cheaper and the scripts are free.

 Take care all.
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 Subject: sound editing?


 hi guys,
 what is the best sound editing software on the market today?.

 What is the basic differences between Gold Wave  SoundForge?,

 What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, and which
is more
 speech friendly?,
 Billy
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RE: re soundforge

2008-02-02 Thread Ray's Home
Brian, as far as I recall, pressing tab in Sound Forge while focus is
on the wave editing window moves the cursor to left, right, and back
to two channel focus.  So, if you have a two channel file open you
should be moving between track one and the other track going in
reverse.

I cannot understand why you are pressing tab before saving the file
though.  Shouldn't that be control-s for regular saving, or alt-f a
for save as?  If you do that without pressing any other intervening
key the file should be saved in stereo if that's how the file was
recorded.



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Subject: re soundforge


hi list, i am using soundforge seven. lately, i have come across a
rather odd result in my recordings. i am using a a p h to record two
tracks at once in soundforge. i then have to reverse one of them to
save them. the problem is, that when i am feeding the a p h in to
soundforge, and have it set for sterio, i can hear the tracks going
in to separate speakers. when i want to save the tracks, i press tab,
but instead of getting one track, i get both tracks coming out of one
speaker. if i press tab again, i get both tracks coming out of the
other speaker. i can't work out what is the trouble. obviously, it
isn't my lead, or i wouldn't hear the two tracks coming out of the
speakers, one in to the left hand speaker and the other track in to
the right speaker. if anyone has ever had this trouble, perhaps you
found out the problem. i have been using this method of recording
from the a p h for some time, ever since someone told me how to
separate the tracks, using it satisfactorily. it is only lately, that
i have run in to trouble. brian.


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RE: re soundforge

2008-02-02 Thread Ray's Home
I've just tried separating out the individual tracks of a stereo
recording in Sound Forge 7.

I tabbed to the left hand track and found I could highlight the whole
of that one track by pressing control-shift-end.  Copied that to the
clipboard and did control-E as you are doing to copy the highlighted
track to a new window.  This worked fine, and I ended up with a mono
track containing just the one track.  Did the same for the lower,
righthand track, which also worked.

I found also that if you move focus to one track with tab and use
control-A the two tracks get highlighted and so these two get copied
to a new window.

So, I don't know if that helps, but isolation of one track seems to
work for me in SF 7.

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-Original Message-
brian parker
Subject: re soundforge


hi ray, you have to press tab, in order to choose the channel
that  you want to save. having  chosen  the channel, you want, you
highlight it and send it to the clip board, you then do control e,
then save the result. the point is, that when i tab, i junp from
speaker to speaker but take both input channels with me. brian.




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RE: re soundforge

2008-02-02 Thread Ray's Home
I've just tried separating out the individual tracks of a stereo
recording in Sound Forge 7.

I tabbed to the left hand track and found I could highlight the whole
of that one track by pressing control-shift-end.  Copied that to the
clipboard and did control-E as you are doing to copy the highlighted
track to a new window.  This worked fine, and I ended up with a mono
track containing just the one track.  Did the same for the lower,
righthand track, which also worked.

I found also that if you move focus to one track with tab and use
control-A the two tracks get highlighted and so these two get copied
to a new window.

So, I don't know if that helps, but isolation of one track seems to
work for me in SF 7.

Cheers,

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-Original Message-
brian parker
Subject: re soundforge


hi ray, you have to press tab, in order to choose the channel
that  you want to save. having  chosen  the channel, you want, you
highlight it and send it to the clip board, you then do control e,
then save the result. the point is, that when i tab, i junp from
speaker to speaker but take both input channels with me. brian.




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RE: recording my voice

2008-02-02 Thread Ray's Home
Interesting post Steve, and I'm coming at this from your
recommmendation of the Electrovoice RE20.

Very good mic, and I believe Paul McCartney is a fan of it.  Just one
slight caution though:  its a pretty low output mic and, unless you've
a low noise pre-amp with plenty of gain, you're gonna have to get nice
up-n-close.  Then again, that's another of the virtues of the RE20;
it can stand a lot of close work without poppping and thumping, but
within limits.  Very nice natural tone or voicing to this mic.

I like a bit of acoustic or ambiance to my voice recordingand when
used further away, then the RE20 needs a good 60Db of gain or more in
the pre amps.  Lower end mixers don't cut it in this respect.

I've bought a couple off eBay where you can get them for quite a nice
price.

HTH.

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-Original Message-
Steve Matzura
Subject: Re: recording my voice


Hi, Auj:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:29:22 +, you wrote:

   I would like to make a recording of my voice; rather, a demo so I
can get
some voiceover work.  What would be the best software program to use
to
make this recording, and then burn a cd for shopping my demo?

I'm going to assume you've invested heavily in a good--no, a very
good--microphone and front-end mixer or pre-amp.  Neuman not
necessary, but a good Electro-Voice microphone like the RE20 is what
you *really* want, especially if you *really* mean it about making
good recordings. It's all about the microphone.  The Schure SM57's or
'58's are good, too, but ya know what?  After being a confirmed Schure
fan for nearly 30 years, and loving my SM57's, I tried the Re20 and
was totally blown away by its very lifelike reproduction.  It gave my
Internet radio shows a whole new and much more likable sound, in my
unhumble opinion.  Audiotechnica makes nice microphones, too, but I've
also been an E-V fan for probably close to 40 years, since the old
676's were popular, and they've never let me down.  Cost a bit more,
but if you're real serious about this, that's where you should spend
your $$$.

Now, as for recordingware, if you're only interested in making short
voice-over-type recordings, look no further than good old Windows
Sound Recorder (Programs / Acessories / Entertainment).  No frills--no
features,either--just start it up, and start talking.  It also has a
time limit of either 30 or 60 seconds, I forget which.  The point is,
for what you want to do, it's perfect in every way--captures your
voice, costs you nothing.

Of course, if you're going to have to edit and produce your own
things, then we're talkin' several knotches up the scale.  Goldwave,
Sound Forge, CoolEdit, all good.  They all do essentially the same
things, but with different looks and feels.

To burn your CD, there are also lots of choices, all of which do the
same thing, but with different looks and feels.  Easy CDDA Extractor
is my personal fave, but lots of folks like CD Mate or Easy CD
Creator, or even Nero Burning ROM, which, at its current version and
level of sophistication, I think is way over the top for what you want
to do and what you need.  But it's something to graduate to. In the
end, it doesn't do anything to a CD that any of the aforementioned
programs do, it just offers other options (like DVD production) that
you haven't mentioned you need.  I'm a firm believer in focusing more
on useability and functionality (which aren't the same thing at all)
rather than bells and whistles I might (or might not) need down the
road.  OK, a little expandability is a good thing, sure, but why buy a
20-room house if I'm probably never going to have a large family?  OK,
so down the road you may wind up having wasted a little money on
having to buy the same thing twice, once with one set of extra
features and once with another, but sometimes that's the price one is
required to pay when one is feeling one's way into a new line.

Good luck, and let us know where we can download some samples.



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RE: B Tracks?

2008-01-18 Thread Ray's Home
Billy isn't this really Karaoke your talking about?

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TrueBlue  Proud
Subject: Re: B Tracks?


Cornell, I'm not meaning Instrumental music.
I'm talking about music a singer would use to back her vocal in a live
gig.

The artist would usually have a CD or in some cases a laptop computer,
with
the music tracks to the songs she or he will use in the live
performance,
and that is why I said backing tracks. It's used to back up the
singer,
Billy


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Subject: RE: B Tracks?



 If you mean instrumentals, you can pretty much locate anywhere.
E-Music
 may offer a free trial of downloads - I would peruse their
selection. Best
 Regards, Cornell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
 pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: B Tracks? Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008
22:02:37
 +  hi guys, A couple of friends of mine are going to do their
first
 live gig this  week-end.  The only problem they have at the
moment is,
 they don't have any backing  music.  They tried to purchase
backing
 music from the Internet, but it was way too  expensive.  They
have
 asked me if I would ask if any list members have some backing 
tracks
 they would be willing to share with them.  If they are successful,
then
 maybe they will be able to return the favour  one day.  If anyone
can
 help, please contact me at the email address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 will gladly pass on any correspondence.  Please except my heart
felt
 thanks on their behalf,  The couple in question are Lynn 
Mickey. 
 Music types: pop, sixties, seventies, eighties, Country, Blues,
Billy  
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Help! Winamp too helpful while playing Cds

2008-01-15 Thread Ray's Home
Posting this to two lists, but not off-topic for either.

I've used Winamp for some time and am now using 5.5 something.  I'm
being driven mad by its compulsion to go off and try and find a track
listing for CDs I've recorded myself (my own recordings in these
cases.)  What can I do to stop it doing this?  Tried various settings
under online options, all to no evail.  Anyone got the answer please?

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RE: Help! Winamp too helpful while playing Cds

2008-01-15 Thread Ray's Home
Um, well how do you do that please?

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Did you try telling it not to go on line to retrieve music data?

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Posting this to two lists, but not off-topic for either.

I've used Winamp for some time and am now using 5.5 something.  I'm
being
driven mad by its compulsion to go off and try and find a track
listing for
CDs I've recorded myself (my own recordings in these
cases.)  What can I do to stop it doing this?  Tried various settings
under
online options, all to no evail.  Anyone got the answer please?

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RE: Voice Recorders was The Victor Reader

2007-12-10 Thread Ray's Home
Wonder if I might ask Michael, do you intend doing a podcast about the
Sony ICD-SX67?  It sounds an interesting recorder.

I think a good comparative review would be useful now, especially if
and when someone gets their hands on the new Marantz portable
recorder.

Interesting that no one has made any mention of the Fostex FR2 LE.
This is the recorder I hope to get my hands on.   though I've a little
sightI still want to try and get some hands on before committing
myself.  Just wonder if anyone here has used, or tried to use one?

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-Original Message-
Michael Lang


Dane, All in all, I also prefer the Olympus DS-50, when one compares
it with
the Sony ICD-SX67. However, the 67 offers real line-in recording, so
that one can record radio talkshows with it easily. When one connects
it to a PC, it becomes a regular drive and one can use any file
manager to copy MP3 files onto it, which the Sony will play. Most of
the menu items are adjustable with the supplied Sony Voice Editor,
which is screenreader friendly. Yes, the recording format is
proprietary, but one can easily convert recordings to MP3 with Voice
Editor and when one divides a recording on the ICD-SX67, there's no
gap between the parts. If one does that on the Edirol R-09 for
instance, one can clearly hear a gap.

   *** Michael Lang ***

You wrote:

 I don't think anyone did, I heard that it could record so I was
 wondering what sort of recording capacity the reader had.
 Incidentally talking about recorders, I notice that the Olympus
range
 of Recorders (Voice Recorders to be more accurate) got a very good
 review in our local newspaper last Thursday as compared to the new
 Sony offering. One of the drawbacks with the Sony was that it used
its
 own proprarity audio encoding and you needed extra software to
 transfer and decode the audio to make it compatible for playing on a
 PC. Further to this the Sony model (whilst it could be connected to
a
 PC) did not function as an external drive meaning that once again,
 extra software had to be used to make it act this way, no Mac
software
 exists for the Sony recorder of course.

 On 09/12/2007, at 5:14 AM, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

 Where in the world did someone get the idea that the stream does
 not record well enough for a podcast?

 Don Roberts

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 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

 On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just
 ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



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 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example
 aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking
 of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in?
 Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my
 mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about
 it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are
 plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the
 reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit.
 The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will
 have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so
 they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there
 was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have
 one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.
 First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a
 tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to
 operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile),
 but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell
 me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.




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RE: for those who have the victor reader

2007-12-10 Thread Ray's Home
I side with those who think the Stream isn't up to Podcast standards .
Then again, depends on the material, and I suppose a shortish piece
consisting simply of speech would be acceptable done with the Stream.

For better quality, easier on the ear, podcasts that might include
some music, then why not the PTR2 to take one example?

The stream is meant as a notetaker come conference recording machine
which is no doubt why it uses this peculiar, proprietorial compression
system.

Cheers,

From Ray
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-Original Message-
David Tanner


Well, its' personal opinion. I guess.  And, remember that at this
point
there is the issue of converting the file type to something that more
people
can use like *.WAV and *.MP3.



- Original Message -
From: Donald L. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Where in the world did someone get the idea that the stream does
 not record well enough for a podcast?

 Don Roberts

 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:30 AM
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 IS there a difference in this odel and the Extreme Reader?

 On 09/12/2007, at 3:26 AM, Judy W wrote:


 It won't record well enough for a podcast or broadcast--just
 ment
 for basic
 notes.

 Judy



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dane
 Trethowan
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:44 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: for those who have the victor reader


 Yep, that is a bit surprising, I mean 64 meg cards for example
 aren't
 exactly what one would call expensive are they.
 Now can someone tell us more about the reader as I'm thinking
 of
 getting myself one next year, what formats does it record in?
 Does the
 reader have a line-in jack or facility? At present I have my
 mind set
 on either the Zoom h2 or h4 recorder but if there's something a
 little
 more accessible out there then I'd be interested to hear about
 it, the
 Zoom doesn't have synthesized speech or anything but there are
 plenty
 of blind people out there using them as evidenced from the
 reviews on
 them at http://www.blindcooltech.com

 On 09/12/2007, at 2:17 AM, Dave McLean wrote:

 Yes there is a tutorial on the cd that comes with the unit.
 The unit
 is also
 very easy to use so I think you will pick it up quickly.
 I will warn you the unit doesn't come with a card so you will
 have
 to buy
 one.
 I just bought 2 four gig s d cards from J  R for $29 each so
 they
 aren't
 expensive.
 It was a surprise to me though when the unit came and there
 was no
 card in
 it.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joanne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:00 AM
 Subject: for those who have the victor reader


 Haven't been following threads on this because I didn't have
 one,
 but I'm
 getting one soon and need to know some things about it.
 First,
 will this
 come with accessible instructions?  Second, is there a
 tutorial on
 it
 somewhere so I can learn in detail what to do and how to
 operate
 it?  If
 not then I'll have lots of questions for the group (smile),
 but just
 wondered if there's a good tutorial.  And if someone can tell
 me
 this, how
 much music or about how many gigs is on the SD card provided?
 Thanks.

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RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

2007-11-23 Thread Ray's Home
John, sorry to disappoint, but no, its not a drive, its a piece of
stand alone kit made for mastering music  to hard disk, then burning
off to CD.  All visually driven through its own display.  This is the
sort of market Elisis is into.

I used this machine as an example of where I've come across adjustable
off-sets.

Cheers,

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-Original Message-

Hello Ray,
How do I get my hands on a few of those drives?
I have two desk top computers.
I use one for working playing and blogging and I use the other one to
deliver the gospel.
Either way, I'm always ripping and burning CD's for people.
  John.
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Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:39 AM
Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:
they've
changed things


 Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already
been
 mentioned.

 With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box
 which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as
possible,
 Red Book CDs.  One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set.  The
 reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling
 off-sets the same way.  This results in some players clipping the
 beginning of a track.  Being able to adjust for this is useful.

 I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF,
whatever
 file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to
be.
 Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some
 will.

 Cheers,

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 -Original Message-


 Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author
 of EAC
 I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you
 to use
 a good one.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
 Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:
 they've
 changed things


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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM
 Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:
 they've
 changed things


So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then
EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper.

 The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper?
 grin

 Blessed Be,

 Dana
 that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
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RE: Ripping, Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things

2007-11-23 Thread Ray's Home
Can I add just one small thing to this, and hope it's not already been
mentioned.

With regard to off-sets, I have an Elisis hard disk mastering box
which is designed to produce good error free, or as near as possible,
Red Book CDs.  One of the adjustments you can tweak is off-set.  The
reason for this is more to do with some CD players not handling
off-sets the same way.  This results in some players clipping the
beginning of a track.  Being able to adjust for this is useful.

I'd say also that the more perfect the resultant .wav, AIFF, whatever
file is you rip to, the better subsequent conversions are going to be.
Yes, you don't have to go to all this trouble, but obviously some
will.

Cheers,

From Ray
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-Original Message-


Funny, I can't have read the authors documentation right, the author
of EAC
I mean, he doesn't tell you to use a faulty DCD bdrive, he tells you
to use
a good one.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie
Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 11:40 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:
they've
changed things


- Original Message -
From: Kevin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor:
they've
changed things


So, if your CD-ROM is not as good as it could be then
EAC is for you otherwise it's more for the paranoid ripper.

The paranoid ripper? Are you referring to Jack, the paranoid ripper?
grin

Blessed Be,

Dana
that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your
customized
pronunciation  dictionary that Dana=dayna.




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RE: Total Recorder

2007-11-20 Thread Ray's Home
Total Recorder works with Vista?

I've just looked at the details for 6.1 and Vista isn't mentioned.
The web page does say it will work up to XP, and probably other
Windows operating systems, but they seem not to commit themselves.

I wonder if Total Recorder has or hansn't managed to get around the
crippling of audio in and out in Vista?  (Note, I hear this is part of
Vista, but don't know actually that it is as yet denying access to
anologue in-out as well as SPDIF.)  I believe some Vistacomputers come
with no audio in-out sockets.

Whatever else may or may not be true about Vista, this factor for me
makes Vista a definite NO NO.

Cheers,

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-Original Message-
Sunshine
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Total Recorder


actually it works with vista.
you need total recorder version 6.1

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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: RE: Total Recorder


 I've wondered that myself.  I believe the company gave up rather
than take
 the steps necessary to make total recorder work with Vista.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:38 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: Total Recorder

 Hi!

 Just been looking to see what the latest news is regarding total
recorder
 at
 http://www.highcriteria.com http://www.highcriteria.com/  and it
appears
 the web site isn't functioning, I take it the product is still being
 developped and sold?




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RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady

2007-11-18 Thread Ray's Home
Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream.

1.  With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files,
including type 4 or whatever they're called.  Obviously the player has
to be registered with the Audible software.

2.  Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and
.ogg files.  Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too.

3.  Good through an external powered speaker.

4.  Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not
meant for that either.

5.  You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug
an external mic in.  Sensitivity of this mic is very good.  Does
record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure
that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC.

6.  Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings.

7.  Good support for text and HTML files too;  read by sythetic speech
which to my ear is good.  Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not
sure on that.  Navigation of text much improved with character, word,
line sentence and paragraph.

8.  Only real downside is USB 1.1.  This means if transfering files
via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW!  You can use an external card writer
though to place files on the SD cards it takes.

9.  Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite
quickly.  (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is
solved now.)

In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of
the cost of access tech devices anyway.  Overall quality of playback
is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something
lacking quality-wise.

HTH.



From Ray
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-Original Message-
Bradford Trainham


Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share?
It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed
many of
the contending/similar products that are designed to give us
on-the-go
access to digitally-done books.
Brad Trainham


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Steve Pattison
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM
To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY

Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually
Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com

Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007

Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed
for
blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular
Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3,
DAISY,
and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the
Audible
format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users.
Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet,
providing
over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and
magazines.

The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio
books
and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next
chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks.  For Audible books, the
user
will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by
increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an
accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time
lapsed.
Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular
basis
often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that
Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital
pitch
correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than
normal
playback speed.

The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All
keys
and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a
built-in
User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad
functions.
It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play
text-only
files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD
memory card
to store books and music transferred from a computer.

We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation features of Stream
to
the Audible listener experience, says Gerry Chevalier, HumanWare
Victor
Reader Product Manager. I know of no other Audible-ready player that
offers
accessibility, variable speed playback, and advanced navigation, all
in one
package.

We are very much aware of the value and popularity of Audible books
for the
blind and visually impaired, says Will Lopes, Vice President for
Business
Development at Audible. We are pleased to work with HumanWare to
bring the
benefits of the accessible Victor Reader Stream player to Audible
listeners.

Victor Reader Stream can be purchased online at www.humanware.com (in
USA).
Current Victor Reader Stream users will need to upgrade their player
to
software version 1.1 in order to 

RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady

2007-11-18 Thread Ray's Home
Sorry, but don't really know what flavours of mp4 audio the stream
will play.  I only know that the class or level 4 was mentioned.  I'm
knowledgable on the details of the various MP34 or M4 levels.  Wish I
was.

Cheers,

From Ray
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-Original Message-
Curtis Delzer


Plays, m4A files? Will it play m4A files in folders not just audible
ones? I
save much material in m4A format because at 20Kbps, it is excellent
quality
at that low of a bit rate.

Curtis Delzer
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From: Ray's Home [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady


Hi, just a few comments about the Victor stream.

1.  With the last firmware update the VR can now play audible files,
including type 4 or whatever they're called.  Obviously the player has
to be registered with the Audible software.

2.  Supports MP3, DAISY, including the American variant of course, and
.ogg files.  Virtually certain it'l play .wav files too.

3.  Good through an external powered speaker.

4.  Internal speaker not good for book listening and probably not
meant for that either.

5.  You can record memo notes with the Stream's built-in mic, or plug
an external mic in.  Sensitivity of this mic is very good.  Does
record to an odd sort of file compression type though and not sure
that it's easy, yet, to play these on a PC.

6.  Internal speaker is good for listening to memo recordings.

7.  Good support for text and HTML files too;  read by sythetic speech
which to my ear is good.  Maybe support for MS Word files too, but not
sure on that.  Navigation of text much improved with character, word,
line sentence and paragraph.

8.  Only real downside is USB 1.1.  This means if transfering files
via a UsB cable transfer is SLOW!  You can use an external card writer
though to place files on the SD cards it takes.

9.  Battery life good at around fifteen hours, and charges up quite
quickly.  (Some have had problems with batteries, but think this is
solved now.)

In short, for the money, it has to be a good deal, well in terms of
the cost of access tech devices anyway.  Overall quality of playback
is good, though critical music listeners might feel there's something
lacking quality-wise.

HTH.



From Ray
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
Bradford Trainham


Does anyone have an opinion of this machine you'd care to share?
It looks/sounds like exactly what I want, but I haven't reviewed
many of
the contending/similar products that are designed to give us
on-the-go
access to digitally-done books.
Brad Trainham


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Steve Pattison
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:51 AM
To: 'GUI Talk'; Access-L; 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: FWd: Victor Reader Stream is Now AudibleReady

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

VICTOR READER STREAM DAISY, MP3 AND NISO PLAYER IS NOW AUDIBLE READY

Portable MP3 Player Specifically Designed for the Blind and Visually
Impaired now Compatible with Audible.com

Longueuil(Canada), November 15, 2007

Victor Reader Stream, the pocket-sized portable MP3 player designed
for
blind and low-vision people now has the capability to play the popular
Audible.com books. In addition to the variety of audio formats (MP3,
DAISY,
and NISO books and music) supported by Victor Reader Stream, the
Audible
format will provide a huge additional choice of content to the users.
Audible is the leading provider of spoken audio on the internet,
providing
over 140,000 hours of digital audio editions of books, newspapers and
magazines.

The Stream has extensive navigation features for moving through audio
books
and text files, including functions that allow you to move to the next
chapter, section or page, or to set bookmarks.  For Audible books, the
user
will be able to navigate from one Audible heading to the next, move by
increments of one-, five-, or ten-minute time jumps, and move with an
accelerated fast forward feature that announces the amount of time
lapsed.
Blind and low-vision people who listen to talking books on a regular
basis
often prefer to speed up the playback. For all audio book formats that
Stream plays, including Audible, variable speed control with digital
pitch
correction allows the reader to accurately listen at higher than
normal
playback speed.

The player is completely accessible by blind and low-vision users. All
keys
and messages are provided through audio feedback. The player has a
built-in
User Guide and a Key Describer mode to remind the user of keypad
functions.
It comes with integrated text-to-speech voice, allowing it to play
text-only
files and announce the track names of music files. It uses an SD
memory card
to store books and music transferred from a computer.

We are very happy to bring the advanced navigation

RE: Rockbox

2007-11-09 Thread Ray's Home
I can tell you Richard that Rockbox is a piece of software written by
VI guys I believe, to make some Ipods and other non-speaking portable
players accessible via speech feedback.

Seems in pretty well all instances installing this software, well,
firmware modification, invalidates the warranty that comes with
players.

Sure if you do a search Google will come up with the places you can
download it.

(All this from someone who's not cool enough to own an IPod or any
other MP3/AAC player, though I've got a Zenstone.)

Cheers,

From Ray
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-Original Message-
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of PRODUCTIONS
BEAUSOLEIL


Hi all

My name is Richard.

I'm a musician and I'm interested to know more about audio.

Recently, I posted few questions on this list concerning the
accessibility
of mp3 players.

What's rockbox?

I don't know if my emails are coming through this list but I don't
understand I get any response on basic questions that passionated
people
like you should know answers about.

Hope someone could help me.

regards


Richard Beausoleil

PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL
Arrangements musicaux
Studio multi-pistes
Démo vocal

Tél : (514) 924-0411
Courriel : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: The Ipod classic


 No problem.
 If you have any trouble:
 add me on msn:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 email:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 further contact info in signature...



 Tristan Bussiere
 Founder, ACE Games
 http://www.acegamesonline.net

 Skype: tristanbussiere
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: The Ipod classic


 Thank you very much for posting this.

 On 09/11/2007, at 8:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just got my new iPod classic 80 gb, and here is my quick way of
 navigating
 the iPod...
 Simpelist method:::
 Sighted person not required. Lol!
 When the iPod classic is turned on [any button to do so], hit
play.
 This
 will play all your songs in order.
 Basic steps:::
 I required some sighted assistance, but since I am telling you
these
 pointers, you will not.:
 For shuffle;
 1) Go to main menu on iPod classic. By hitting menu on the top of
the
 clickwheel. Hit it 2 to 3 times to mkae sure you are in the main
menu.
 2) You should be able to hear an audible click, as you move from
 option to
 option on a menu. In this step it doesn't matter if the click is
 set to go
 through the head phones, or the iPod internal speaker.





 Click down the menu, until you hear no more audible clicks.
 3) Go up one click (and/or option). And hit enter (select button).
 It should
 shuffle the songs and start playing.

 Now playing:
 1) Go to the main menu.
 2) Go to the very last option, and hit enter.
 *note: If there hasn't been a play session  started, you will
 shuffle the
 songs!

 Audio books:
 note: This is my setup, if you have different folders or
playlists,
 I am
 sorry if this does something to your iPod. *smile*
 1) Go to main menu, and go to the very first option [music].
 2) Go all the way down until the iPod classic stops clicking, and
 go up one
 click.
 3) Listen away.

 ipod resources:
 www.ilounge.com
 www.ipod.com
 [redirects to apple's iTunes+iPod website]
 www.apple.com/ipod
 www.apple.com/itunes

 hth.
 Tristan Bussiere
 Founder, ACE Games
 http://www.acegamesonline.net

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 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: Kim Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:16 PM
 Subject: Re: The Ipod classic


 But, how do you navagate the I-Pod itself?  Rock Box?  Any info
 appreciated!
 - Original Message -
 From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:41 PM
 Subject: RE: The Ipod classic


 You no longer have to use the jaws curser for navigation and FS.
 says
 there
 will be more improvements to the interface coming.  I've used it
and
 things
 are much better.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 1:53 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: The Ipod classic

 I have an ipod classic 80 gb. Its great. What's your feedback
 dane and
 albert. How is the sync now accessible?




 Tristan Bussiere
 Founder, ACE Games
 http://www.acegamesonline.net

 Skype: tristanbussiere
 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 From: albert griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 7:45 PM
 Subject: RE: The Ipod classic


 synching is now accessible with the latest 

RE: Rockbox

2007-11-09 Thread Ray's Home
Yeh, guess that's a fair description.  However, Talks is an app that
runs under the Cymbian, (sorry if splling is wrong) so no waranty
infringement with that.

Rockbox integrates more at the hardware/software interface I think.

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BEAUSOLEIL


is it something like talx for cells?
Richard Beausoleil

PRODUCTIONS BEAUSOLEIL
Arrangements musicaux
Studio multi-pistes
Démo vocal

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: RE: Rockbox


I can tell you Richard that Rockbox is a piece of software written by
VI guys I believe, to make some Ipods and other non-speaking portable
players accessible via speech feedback.

Seems in pretty well all instances installing this software, well,
firmware modification, invalidates the warranty that comes with
players.

Sure if you do a search Google will come up with the places you can
download it.

(All this from someone who's not cool enough to own an IPod or any
other MP3/AAC player, though I've got a Zenstone.)

Cheers,

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Hi all

My name is Richard.

I'm a musician and I'm interested to know more about audio.

Recently, I posted few questions on this list concerning the
accessibility
of mp3 players.

What's rockbox?

I don't know if my emails are coming through this list but I don't
understand I get any response on basic questions that passionated
people
like you should know answers about.

Hope someone could help me.

regards


Richard Beausoleil

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Arrangements musicaux
Studio multi-pistes
Démo vocal

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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: The Ipod classic


 No problem.
 If you have any trouble:
 add me on msn:
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 Tristan Bussiere
 Founder, ACE Games
 http://www.acegamesonline.net

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 From: Dane Trethowan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: The Ipod classic


 Thank you very much for posting this.

 On 09/11/2007, at 8:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just got my new iPod classic 80 gb, and here is my quick way of
 navigating
 the iPod...
 Simpelist method:::
 Sighted person not required. Lol!
 When the iPod classic is turned on [any button to do so], hit
play.
 This
 will play all your songs in order.
 Basic steps:::
 I required some sighted assistance, but since I am telling you
these
 pointers, you will not.:
 For shuffle;
 1) Go to main menu on iPod classic. By hitting menu on the top of
the
 clickwheel. Hit it 2 to 3 times to mkae sure you are in the main
menu.
 2) You should be able to hear an audible click, as you move from
 option to
 option on a menu. In this step it doesn't matter if the click is
 set to go
 through the head phones, or the iPod internal speaker.





 Click down the menu, until you hear no more audible clicks.
 3) Go up one click (and/or option). And hit enter (select button).
 It should
 shuffle the songs and start playing.

 Now playing:
 1) Go to the main menu.
 2) Go to the very last option, and hit enter.
 *note: If there hasn't been a play session  started, you will
 shuffle the
 songs!

 Audio books:
 note: This is my setup, if you have different folders or
playlists,
 I am
 sorry if this does something to your iPod. *smile*
 1) Go to main menu, and go to the very first option [music].
 2) Go all the way down until the iPod classic stops clicking, and
 go up one
 click.
 3) Listen away.

 ipod resources:
 www.ilounge.com
 www.ipod.com
 [redirects to apple's iTunes+iPod website]
 www.apple.com/ipod
 www.apple.com/itunes

 hth.
 Tristan Bussiere
 Founder, ACE Games
 http://www.acegamesonline.net

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 From: Kim Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:16 PM
 Subject: Re: The Ipod classic


 But, how do you navagate the I-Pod itself?  Rock Box?  Any info
 appreciated!
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 Subject: RE: The Ipod classic


 You no longer have to use the jaws curser for navigation and FS.
 says
 there
 will be more improvements to the interface coming

RE: Rockbox

2007-11-09 Thread Ray's Home
Christopher, thanks for the thorough explanation.

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RE: multi channel recording??

2007-11-07 Thread Ray's Home
Cool Edit was a multi-track editor (it was bought by Adobe and became
Audition.)

Seems Cool Edit 2000 is still on some old software lists and can be
downloaded.  No idea whether it just works as an evaluation or its the
real thing.

I know some people used to use Cool Edit successfully.

Some are sayingthe Mac is now usable with Garrage Band and the
shareware studio audio editor for the Mac.  Trouble is, its so hard to
get solid information about what they're doing and exactly what's
achieved and how.

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Kenneth Suratt


what about cool edit pro. I heard it can do that but I have no scripts
for
it.
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 5:47 AM
Subject: RE: multi channel recording??


 We are talking here about 'multi-track recording aren't we?  Not
 multi-channel, which is what Sound Forge 9 does.

 Yes, Sonar does seem to be the only choice for multi-track
recording,
 at least that I've heard of.  $300.00 seems a hell of a lot extra on
 top of the cost of JFW for access to it, but I suppose if you are
 actually earning your living using it, it may be tax deductable, or
 else someone else is paying the bill!  If Window-Eyes is working
well
 with it, I'd better  take a look.

 What's the state of play with Audacitywhich is free?   As far as I
 know the multi-track facility hadn't been implemented beyond two
 tracks a few months ago.

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 -Original Message-
 Jerry Richer


 For multi-channel recording a lot of people use Sonar from
 Cakewalk.
 It works well with JAWS and the $300 scripts for it and many people
 report
 good success with Window Eyes out of the box.

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RE: adobe 1.5 cueing question

2007-11-07 Thread Ray's Home
I don't have the latest version of Sound Forge, but I'm bound to ask,
is what you describe belowe a Sound Forge feature, or is it a Jim
Snowbarger script feature when using JFW with these scripts.  Must
take a look when I start Sound Forge on my other computer.

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Hi All,
Can you turn on cueing in adoobe 1.5 so you cn here what you are
selecting?
I have seen in Soundforge where you can press the letter q.  then You
can
hold down the left shift key  while  pressing the right arrow.  As you
move
across the audio file, you can hear what you are selecting..
Currently now
in Adobe 1.5  I arrow to the right and then press the spacebar to see
where
I am.  Then if I hav not yet reach the desired place,I must just arrow
a bit
more and check again. The cueing method in Soundforge is much easier
and not
soo time consuming. but I  don't have Soundforge.


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RE: multi channel recording??

2007-11-02 Thread Ray's Home
We are talking here about 'multi-track recording aren't we?  Not
multi-channel, which is what Sound Forge 9 does.

Yes, Sonar does seem to be the only choice for multi-track recording,
at least that I've heard of.  $300.00 seems a hell of a lot extra on
top of the cost of JFW for access to it, but I suppose if you are
actually earning your living using it, it may be tax deductable, or
else someone else is paying the bill!  If Window-Eyes is working well
with it, I'd better  take a look.

What's the state of play with Audacitywhich is free?   As far as I
know the multi-track facility hadn't been implemented beyond two
tracks a few months ago.

Cheers,


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-Original Message-
Jerry Richer


 For multi-channel recording a lot of people use Sonar from
Cakewalk.
It works well with JAWS and the $300 scripts for it and many people
report
good success with Window Eyes out of the box.

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Apple Quictime plugin and Firefox

2007-10-30 Thread Ray's Home
Does anyone here know if Firefox actually supports Apple's Quicktime
Plugin?  Firefox seems to offer to install it, but then says it cannot
be found.

Anyone know about this please?

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info on mp4 wanted: converting to and from

2007-10-26 Thread Ray's Home
Hope the subject line is clear, and apols to those who may be on both
lists for cross-posting.

I've been told the MP4 format - or the audio part of the standard - is
supposed to be better than MP3 both in terms of file size and the
sound quality achievable with a lossy format.  Can anyone comment on
this?

Also, I'd like to know if there are any shareware or reasonably priced
converters around, either as stand alone converters or as part of
audio editors.

Any comments welcome as I'm feeling a little out of my depth here.

Many thanks.

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RE: Sound Editing Feature on Main Menu Live

2007-10-26 Thread Ray's Home
Steve, this Main Menu edition is certainly worth a listen.

One of the things mentioned was a new applet called levelator.  It
evens out levels very effectively, and can be useful for live
recordings and situations where precise attention to level isn't
practical.  As of now, not very accessible, as you have to drag a file
to be 'levelized' onto the apps small interface.  This is due to be
corrected some time very soon, with a right click option being
available for converting a file you are on.  I believe a browse to
file tobe levelized might be addeed too.  Levelized files are stored
in the same folder as the original with a .output.wav extention.

Little mention of multitrack editors, which is a bit of a shame.
Maybe only those in professional situations are using them, what with
the high cost of getting scripts to make it all happen.

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Subject: Sound Editing Feature on Main Menu Live


Some people on this list might be interested in hearing Main Menu
Live for this week where a discussion about sound editors took
place.  the program is available in the Main Menu archives on the ACB
Radio home page at www.acbradio.org.  Here is the description of this
feature:

During the second hour of Main Menu Live, join our panel of experts
(Jeff Bishop, Darrell Shandrow, Rick Harmon and Steve Bauer) for an
exciting discussion of GoldWave, Studio Recorder, Sound Forge, Total
Recorder and possibly other audio editing software applications.  If
you are a blind or visually impaired audio engineer, podcaster or
otherwise are involved with digital audio production in either a
hobby or professional capacity, you're sure to learn something new by
listening to and participating in this show.


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An accessible player that can read CD text?

2007-10-01 Thread Ray's Home
hHi.

I'm burning off a batch of audio Cds and have identified each  track
with CD text as read on the display of many players.

Wondered if any of the accessible players, like the Victor or
Plextors, can actually pick up this text so that totals have the same
convenience of knowing which track is which by simply moving between
them, rather than actually having to play them.

I know that on transcription material such as I'm working on, a clear
announcement at the start of a track is always good practice, but
nonetheless I feel that the ability to pick up on CD text, if present,
would be useful.

Comments welcomed.



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RE: Easy Cd Da audio extractor?

2007-09-29 Thread Ray's Home
I can tell you it is pretty good, though I tend to use Nero 6 these
days.  I believe version 11 of Easy Cd extracter will have support for
burning to DVDs and seemingly, eventually, Blue Ray discs.

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I purchased this program many versions ago.  Is it still accessible?
For
those of you who have used it, is there a better program for ripping,
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Nero download link, (wasRE: Easy Cd Da audio extractor?)

2007-09-29 Thread Ray's Home

Demo copies of Nero Cd/DVD burning suites of programs can be
downloaded at:

http://www.nero.com/eng/Downloads.html

Many find Nero 6 has better access than version 7, though I don't know
what the position is regarding JFW scrips.  They are launching version
8 just now and I've heard no comments as yet as to its accessability
friendliness.  (Nero do seem to break accessability in upgrades, so be
careful.)

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-Original Message-
Tiffany Gordon


Where can I get nero burning software?

Tiffany

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I can tell you it is pretty good, though I tend to use Nero 6 these
days.  I believe version 11 of Easy Cd extracter will have support for
burning to DVDs and seemingly, eventually, Blue Ray discs.

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Music download sites

2007-09-29 Thread Ray's Home
On another thread, Tifany asked about legal download sites.

You could do worse than look at the Access World article at:

http://www.afb.org/afbpress/pub.asp?DocID=aw070407

I was led to this link via Brian Hartgen's site where he mentions
Napster.

http://www.hartgen.org/miscellaneous.html

Hope this helps.

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RE: New PC Software Restores Audio recordings...

2007-08-24 Thread Ray's Home
The Mac has its own screen reader as part of OS X, Voice Over.  Not a
Mac user myself, but might be next time I buy a computer.

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what screen reading software is there available for macs?
many thanks
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 That is to much trouble.
 I think the letters PC are suppose to mean personal computer.
 If I can't do what I want to do on a Vista system right out of the
box,
 then
 who needs it.
 My job requires me to do a lot of things with digital audio
technology.
 If Vista is going to hinder me from doing this, then I will spend my
money
 on a Mack O-X-X system.
 Coming from a blind person's prospective, Macks are a hole lot user
 friendlier then PCs any way.
 So I will go that rout if I have to.
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Soundforge7: MP3 codec problem

2007-08-15 Thread Ray's Home
Hi.  My First post to this list.  

As subject says, I'm using Sony Sound Forge 7.  Little did I realise
the MP3 codec or whatever it is must be registered after so many uses.
The problem?  The computer SF7's is on is not connected to the
internet at present.

So, my question is:  can anyone think of an interim solution to doing
conversions of MP3 to wave files, and vice versa?  Might it be
possible to (temporarily) use a free MP3 codec, or will Sound Forge
not like that!  (I've no objection in principle to registering, just
cannot do this at the moment as just explained.

Obviously, I do have an internet connected PC on which I'm sending
this message, so downloading to this machine is of course possible.

Little bit about myself.
Living in the UK, my audio work is with local talking newspaper, some
aural history work, a little live music recording, plus some
transcription work.  So far used Sound Forge 7 but I'm considering
buying Studio Recorder.  Intend upgrading to SF9 as soon as money
permits, as I'd find the multi-track-multi-channel facility useful.

Look forward to replies.

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