An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on over the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; it has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real resource hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a bit ornery anyway. I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from the list. I am looking at three options. 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I read it correctly. 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another audio program. >From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor would the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is no object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this machine, so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. Jamie Pauls, MT-BC http://www.accesswatch.info ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: an audio decision that requires some thought
Jamie, I can't give you a complete answer, because by the time I heard about sound forge, it was way out of my price range, and unless the lottery god smiles on us, it probably always will be. I do, however, use gold wave all the time, and it works extremely well with jaws, thanks to Jim Grimsby's excellent scripts. You can also use it with window-eyes, but you don't get some of the information that is available to jaws users. Gold wave does have some drawbacks. It's noise reduction is very weak, and of course, it does not have multi-track capability. You can, however, mix vocals and music with ease, and the results are, I think, quite nice. I use it for file splitting, merging and conversion, and I also record both from the Internet, and from a cassette recorder. If you work with large files, they will take a long time to process. When I work with my sixteen hour file, I know that my machine will be tied up for most of the day. The help manual is excellent, and, next to Kurzweil, it is my favourite program, bar none. For-the-people has some excellent free tutorials, which you likely won't need, but I thought I would mention them just in case. Hope this helps, Cris Hall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 22/09/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Depends on how you intend to use your program and what you expect out of it. Having listened to lots of other people's oldtime radio programs, I can say that what strikes me most is the lack of attention to issues of clipping and sound quality of over compression. I've heard countless shows completely ruined and close to unlistenable from these two problems. If either program helps you with these or if you can cope with any program's shortcomings in this area and otherwise like it, use that. It's better to become proficient at using a less than perfect program than to do a hack job with something with all the bells and whistles. Good luck and let me know what you decide to do. I'd be very interested. - Original Message - From: Jamie Pauls To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on over the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; it has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real resource hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a bit ornery anyway. I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from the list. I am looking at three options. 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I read it correctly. 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another audio program. >From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor would the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is no object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this machine, so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. Jamie Pauls, MT-BC http://www.accesswatch.info ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Hi Jamie, Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you need. And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will ever need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional recordings. - Original Message - From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on > over > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; > it > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real > resource > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > bit ornery anyway. > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from > the > list. I am looking at three options. > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > read it correctly. > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > audio program. > >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>would > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is > no > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this > machine, > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Yeah, that braille sense demo on gwmicro.com is an example of something that's quite clipped. Even with the volume turned down in volume control, you still hear that crackly distorted sound of having the mic turned too high. Good demo at too high a level. - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > Depends on how you intend to use your program and what you expect out of > it. Having listened to lots of other people's oldtime radio programs, I > can say that what strikes me most is the lack of attention to issues of > clipping and sound quality of over compression. I've heard countless > shows completely ruined and close to unlistenable from these two problems. > If either program helps you with these or if you can cope with any > program's shortcomings in this area and otherwise like it, use that. It's > better to become proficient at using a less than perfect program than to > do a hack job with something with all the bells and whistles. > Good luck and let me know what you decide to do. > I'd be very interested. > > - Original Message - > From: Jamie Pauls > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM > Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > > > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise > reduction > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on > over > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; > it > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real > resource > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > bit ornery anyway. > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from > the > list. I am looking at three options. > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if > I > read it correctly. > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > audio program. > > >From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor > would > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is > no > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this > machine, > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful > responses. > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
I played with the beta of studio recorder. I find it gets a sort of weird sound when you time compress slower songs to make them a faster tempo. I wonder how those guys on the daily source code do mash-ups? How they get the words out of a song and mix it in a new one? A good example is the sharp dressed party Adam played on March 10. You don't hear the music of the Party song, rather that of Sharp Dressed Man. I always wondered what they use to "unmix" tracks. Maybe the same technology could be used to take jaws out of recordings made with what you hear. - Original Message - From: "RQJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:00 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > Hi Jamie, > Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. > You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you > need. > And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, > so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. > The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will > ever > need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional > recordings. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM > Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > > >> When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise >> reduction >> and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >> probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio >> Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >> over >> the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >> Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; >> it >> has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >> >> On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >> resource >> hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >> intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a >> bit ornery anyway. >> >> I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed >> Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from >> the >> list. I am looking at three options. >> >> 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >> 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if >> I >> read it correctly. >> 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >> audio program. >> >>>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>>would >> the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is >> no >> object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that >> I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >> machine, >> so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful >> responses. >> >> Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> http://www.accesswatch.info >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Yeah, Golddwave certainly isn't a bad program. I've never actually learned how to edit with it, but what i do is record with Goldwave and edit everything in sound forge. It just works best for me to have both on my system. At 08:00 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote: >Hi Jamie, >Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. >You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you >need. >And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, >so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. >The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will ever >need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional recordings. > >- Original Message - >From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM >Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > > > > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on > > over > > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; > > it > > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real > > resource > > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > > bit ornery anyway. > > > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from > > the > > list. I am looking at three options. > > > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > > read it correctly. > > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > > audio program. > > > >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor > >>would > > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is > > no > > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this > > machine, > > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > > > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Hi Jamey. I first bought Soundforge when there was a deal on it for $99, and the usual price at that time was $500, or thereabouts. I think I like using it with Noisereduction, but there are a lot of things with it that I don't use! - Original Message - From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on > over > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; > it > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real > resource > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > bit ornery anyway. > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from > the > list. I am looking at three options. > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > read it correctly. > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > audio program. > >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>would > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is > no > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this > machine, > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Hi If Sound Forge is too much then perhaps Adobe Audition is too. But over the years I've found it (and its precursor, Cool Edit) to be excellent especially with the scripts in Multitrack mode. It also has pretty good Noise reduction, but for the best noise reduction with hundreds of options and presets for various equipment then Tracertek's Diamond Cut 6 is difficult to beat. It's fairly accessible and can clean up most things fairly well. Again this may be overkill for you, but the choice it offers is staggering. Gordon McFarlane - Original Message - From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:08 PM Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on > over > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; > it > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real > resource > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > bit ornery anyway. > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from > the > list. I am looking at three options. > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > read it correctly. > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > audio program. > >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>would > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is > no > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this > machine, > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > This email has been verified as Virus free > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
I'd definitely put a version of SF onto the new machine. The Ctrl-k thing, with which one can prelisten before making a cut makes cutting so much better and so much more fun. I don't think, that Goldwave can do that. The only thing which in my opinion is a significant improvement of SF 8 compared to SF 6 is SF 8's cue review feature, controled with j, k and l. But if you're satisfied with Jim's scrubbing, you proberbly won't need it. <*** Michael Lang ***> You wrote: > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on over > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; it > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real resource > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > bit ornery anyway. > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from the > list. I am looking at three options. > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > read it correctly. > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > audio program. >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor would > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is no > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this machine, > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > http://www.accesswatch.info > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
I agree. DC6 is indeed the best for noise reduction. I use it every day. And to find out whether or not it's over kill in your situation, you could have a look at the demo which they offer. It works great with speech, no scripts required. On the down side, it does cost around $300 US, but for my money it's still a good value for the price. Larry At 01:17 PM 9/24/2005, you wrote: >Hi >If Sound Forge is too much then perhaps Adobe Audition is too. But over the >years I've found it (and its precursor, Cool Edit) to be excellent >especially with the scripts in Multitrack mode. It also has pretty good >Noise reduction, but for the best noise reduction with hundreds of options >and presets for various equipment then Tracertek's Diamond Cut 6 is >difficult to beat. It's fairly accessible and can clean up most things >fairly well. Again this may be overkill for you, but the choice it offers is >staggering. > >Gordon McFarlane >- Original Message - >From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:08 PM >Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > > > > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on > > over > > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; > > it > > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real > > resource > > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > > bit ornery anyway. > > > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from > > the > > list. I am looking at three options. > > > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > > read it correctly. > > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > > audio program. > > > >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor > >>would > > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is > > no > > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this > > machine, > > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > > > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > > > > > ___ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > This email has been verified as Virus free > > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net > > >___ >PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >http://www.pc-audio.org > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: an audio decision that requires some thought
How do I find Jim's scripts? What do they cost? Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cris Hall Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:52 PM To: pc audio Subject: re: an audio decision that requires some thought Jamie, I can't give you a complete answer, because by the time I heard about sound forge, it was way out of my price range, and unless the lottery god smiles on us, it probably always will be. I do, however, use gold wave all the time, and it works extremely well with jaws, thanks to Jim Grimsby's excellent scripts. You can also use it with window-eyes, but you don't get some of the information that is available to jaws users. Gold wave does have some drawbacks. It's noise reduction is very weak, and of course, it does not have multi-track capability. You can, however, mix vocals and music with ease, and the results are, I think, quite nice. I use it for file splitting, merging and conversion, and I also record both from the Internet, and from a cassette recorder. If you work with large files, they will take a long time to process. When I work with my sixteen hour file, I know that my machine will be tied up for most of the day. The help manual is excellent, and, next to Kurzweil, it is my favourite program, bar none. For-the-people has some excellent free tutorials, which you likely won't need, but I thought I would mention them just in case. Hope this helps, Cris Hall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 22/09/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Yeah Chris, I hear ya. I do my voice recordings with Sound Recorder, and my other recordings with RecAllPro, and then edit with GoldWave. I usually don't use all the features of any software, just the ones I find that work particularly well for me. I'd rather have 1,000 dedicated programs, than 10 multi-function ones. Rick - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 12:37 AM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > Yeah, Golddwave certainly isn't a bad program. I've never actually > learned > how to edit with it, but what i do is record with Goldwave and edit > everything in sound forge. It just works best for me to have both on my > system. > > > At 08:00 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote: >>Hi Jamie, >>Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. >>You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you >>need. >>And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, >>so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. >>The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will >>ever >>need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional >>recordings. >> >>----- Original Message - >>From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM >>Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >> >> >> > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise >> > reduction >> > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >> > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased >> > Studio >> > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >> > over >> > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >> > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever >> > use; >> > it >> > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >> > >> > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >> > resource >> > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >> > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was >> > a >> > bit ornery anyway. >> > >> > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have >> > installed >> > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback >> > from >> > the >> > list. I am looking at three options. >> > >> > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >> > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 >> > if I >> > read it correctly. >> > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >> > audio program. >> > >> >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >> >>would >> > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money >> > is >> > no >> > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself >> > that >> > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >> > machine, >> > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful >> > responses. >> > >> > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> > http://www.accesswatch.info >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> > http://www.pc-audio.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>___ >>PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
I've personally tried audition, and realized that some of the keystrokes are included from cool edit pro. I won't be getting the full version of audition. I use both soundforge and goldwave as audio editors. - Original Message - From: "Larry Naessens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >I agree. DC6 is indeed the best for noise reduction. I use it every > day. And to find out whether or not it's over kill in your situation, > you could have a look at the demo which they offer. It works great > with speech, no scripts required. On the down side, it does cost > around $300 US, but for my money it's still a good value for the price. > > Larry > > > At 01:17 PM 9/24/2005, you wrote: >>Hi >>If Sound Forge is too much then perhaps Adobe Audition is too. But over >>the >>years I've found it (and its precursor, Cool Edit) to be excellent >>especially with the scripts in Multitrack mode. It also has pretty good >>Noise reduction, but for the best noise reduction with hundreds of options >>and presets for various equipment then Tracertek's Diamond Cut 6 is >>difficult to beat. It's fairly accessible and can clean up most things >>fairly well. Again this may be overkill for you, but the choice it offers >>is >>staggering. >> >>Gordon McFarlane >>- Original Message - >>From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:08 PM >>Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >> >> >> > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise >> > reduction >> > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >> > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased >> > Studio >> > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >> > over >> > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >> > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever >> > use; >> > it >> > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >> > >> > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >> > resource >> > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >> > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was >> > a >> > bit ornery anyway. >> > >> > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have >> > installed >> > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback >> > from >> > the >> > list. I am looking at three options. >> > >> > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >> > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 >> > if I >> > read it correctly. >> > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >> > audio program. >> > >> >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >> >>would >> > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money >> > is >> > no >> > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself >> > that >> > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >> > machine, >> > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful >> > responses. >> > >> > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> > http://www.accesswatch.info >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> > http://www.pc-audio.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > -- >> > This email has been verified as Virus free >> > Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net >> >> >>___ >>PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.6/111 - Release Date: 9/23/2005 > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Hmmm. I use sound forge 7. i'm just curious, what is the noise gate option for in sound forge? - Original Message - From: "RQJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 6:00 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > Hi Jamie, > Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. > You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you > need. > And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, > so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. > The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will > ever > need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional > recordings. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM > Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > > >> When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise >> reduction >> and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >> probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio >> Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >> over >> the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >> Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; >> it >> has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >> >> On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >> resource >> hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >> intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a >> bit ornery anyway. >> >> I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed >> Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from >> the >> list. I am looking at three options. >> >> 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >> 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if >> I >> read it correctly. >> 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >> audio program. >> >>>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>>would >> the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is >> no >> object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that >> I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >> machine, >> so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful >> responses. >> >> Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> http://www.accesswatch.info >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 9/22/2005 > > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Well to edit with goldwave is you use the bracket keys. its like sforge - Original Message - From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:37 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > Yeah, Golddwave certainly isn't a bad program. I've never actually > learned > how to edit with it, but what i do is record with Goldwave and edit > everything in sound forge. It just works best for me to have both on my > system. > > > At 08:00 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote: >>Hi Jamie, >>Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. >>You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you >>need. >>And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, >>so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. >>The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will >>ever >>need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional >>recordings. >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM >>Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >> >> >> > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise >> > reduction >> > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >> > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased >> > Studio >> > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >> > over >> > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >> > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever >> > use; >> > it >> > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >> > >> > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >> > resource >> > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >> > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was >> > a >> > bit ornery anyway. >> > >> > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have >> > installed >> > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback >> > from >> > the >> > list. I am looking at three options. >> > >> > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >> > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 >> > if I >> > read it correctly. >> > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >> > audio program. >> > >> >>From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >> >>would >> > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money >> > is >> > no >> > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself >> > that >> > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >> > machine, >> > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful >> > responses. >> > >> > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >> > http://www.accesswatch.info >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> > http://www.pc-audio.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >>___ >>PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 9/22/2005 > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: an audio decision that requires some thought
Go to http://www.snowmanradio.com They cost $25. Dave - Original Message - From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: RE: an audio decision that requires some thought > How do I find Jim's scripts? What do they cost? Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Cris Hall > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:52 PM > To: pc audio > Subject: re: an audio decision that requires some thought > > Jamie, I can't give you a complete answer, because by the time I heard about > sound forge, it was way out of my price range, and unless the lottery god > smiles on us, it probably always will be. I do, however, use gold wave all > the time, and it works extremely well with jaws, thanks to Jim Grimsby's > excellent scripts. You can also use it with window-eyes, but you don't get > some of the information that is available to jaws users. > Gold wave does have some drawbacks. It's noise reduction is very weak, and > of course, it does not have multi-track capability. You can, however, mix > vocals and music with ease, and the results are, I think, quite nice. I use > it for file splitting, merging and conversion, and I also record both from > the Internet, and from a cassette recorder. If you work with large files, > they will take a long time to process. When I work with my sixteen hour > file, I know that my machine will be tied up for most of the day. > The help manual is excellent, and, next to Kurzweil, it is my favourite > program, bar none. > For-the-people has some excellent free tutorials, which you likely won't > need, but I thought I would mention them just in case. > Hope this helps, > Cris Hall > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 22/09/2005 > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Jamie! Considering that finances are an issue then It sounds to me as though Gold Wave would serve you well. Record, Playback, Edit, save to different formats is what most people want. Sound Forge isn't for everyone. Most people probably never even use most of it's features or even know what they do. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00 plus $150.00 factory rebate from Tascam until September 30, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
A Noise Gate is a system whereby all sound will be suppressed unless it reaches a particular decibel level. It's a gate and the sound can't get through or can't be heard unless it is strong enough to break through. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional $575.00, www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
I suggest Goldwave because it is easier to get used to and is cheep. - Original Message - From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:08 PM Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction > and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was > probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio > Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on over > the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, > Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; it > has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. > > On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real resource > hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect > intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a > bit ornery anyway. > > I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed > Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from the > list. I am looking at three options. > > 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. > 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I > read it correctly. > 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another > audio program. > > >From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor would > the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is no > object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that > I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this machine, > so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. > > Jamie Pauls, MT-BC > http://www.accesswatch.info > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.4/108 - Release Date: 21/09/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.4/108 - Release Date: 21/09/2005 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
I personally use Gold Wave to to all my recording and editing. Since I despise what noise reduction does to a recording, the fact that Gold Wave's is weak is of little consequence to me. All of my radio shows plus any other recording I do are put together exclusively with Gold Wave. For me personally it's a great program. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Chris Skarstad wrote: > Yeah, Golddwave certainly isn't a bad program. I've never actually learned > how to edit with it, but what i do is record with Goldwave and edit > everything in sound forge. It just works best for me to have both on my > system. > > > At 08:00 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote: >> Hi Jamie, >> Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. >> You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than you >> need. >> And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, >> so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. >> The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will ever >> need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional recordings. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM >> Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >> >> >>> When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction >>> and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >>> probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased Studio >>> Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >>> over >>> the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >>> Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever use; >>> it >>> has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >>> >>> On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >>> resource >>> hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >>> intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was a >>> bit ornery anyway. >>> >>> I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have installed >>> Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback from >>> the >>> list. I am looking at three options. >>> >>> 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >>> 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 if I >>> read it correctly. >>> 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >>> audio program. >>> >>>> From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>>> would >>> the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money is >>> no >>> object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself that >>> I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >>> machine, >>> so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful responses. >>> >>> Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >>> http://www.accesswatch.info >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: an audio decision that requires some thought
Those are the Sound Forge scripts. The question had been about Jim's Gold Wave scripts, which are free. One place to get themis http://h2g2.freeshell.org/goldwave.zip -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Dave Marthouse wrote: > Go to http://www.snowmanradio.com They cost $25. > > Dave > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 12:52 PM > Subject: RE: an audio decision that requires some thought > > >> How do I find Jim's scripts? What do they cost? Thanks. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Cris Hall >> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:52 PM >> To: pc audio >> Subject: re: an audio decision that requires some thought >> >> Jamie, I can't give you a complete answer, because by the time I heard > about >> sound forge, it was way out of my price range, and unless the lottery god >> smiles on us, it probably always will be. I do, however, use gold wave > all >> the time, and it works extremely well with jaws, thanks to Jim Grimsby's >> excellent scripts. You can also use it with window-eyes, but you don't > get >> some of the information that is available to jaws users. >> Gold wave does have some drawbacks. It's noise reduction is very weak, > and >> of course, it does not have multi-track capability. You can, however, mix >> vocals and music with ease, and the results are, I think, quite nice. I > use >> it for file splitting, merging and conversion, and I also record both from >> the Internet, and from a cassette recorder. If you work with large files, >> they will take a long time to process. When I work with my sixteen hour >> file, I know that my machine will be tied up for most of the day. >> The help manual is excellent, and, next to Kurzweil, it is my favourite >> program, bar none. >> For-the-people has some excellent free tutorials, which you likely won't >> need, but I thought I would mention them just in case. >> Hope this helps, >> Cris Hall >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.5/110 - Release Date: 22/09/2005 >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> ___ >> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Perhaps the thread is wandering a bit. I already have Sound Forge 6. I was just trying to decide whether to install SF 6, upgrade to SF 8, or abandon it entirely in favor of Goldwave. I've about decided to try Sound Forge 6 on my new computer, see how it and the scripts behave, and make my decision from there. It seems foolish to just walk away from a $300 investment without exhausting my efforts to make it work well for me. Thanks to everyone who helped try to answer a question for me that only I can answer when it comes right down to it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richer Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:53 AM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought Jamie! Considering that finances are an issue then It sounds to me as though Gold Wave would serve you well. Record, Playback, Edit, save to different formats is what most people want. Sound Forge isn't for everyone. Most people probably never even use most of it's features or even know what they do. Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com ! M-Audio MicroTrack 24/96: Digital Audio Recorder: $375.00, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Tascam FW1884: $1,199.00 plus $150.00 factory rebate from Tascam until September 30, includes shipping in the continental United States ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder with USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low latency MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml ! Giga Studio 3.0 Ensemble: $289 includes delivery in the USA, $319 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency at: www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml Reach BA Software in the United States at: Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Yes. it is very accessible with Jaws. I do have a question. When you take out some editing faulters such as the beginning silence, when you use noise reduction, how come you get the audio to sound squelchy? What I do is edit a little bit of my keyboard click if i'm speaking in a mike if i'm testing, then it works fine. any of you expeerenced this ishew? Best regards, Sky - Original Message - From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 1:47 PM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >I personally use Gold Wave to to all my recording and editing. Since I > despise what noise reduction does to a recording, the fact that Gold > Wave's is weak is of little consequence to me. All of my radio shows plus > any other recording I do are put together exclusively with Gold Wave. For > me personally it's a great program. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Fri, 23 Sep 2005, Chris Skarstad wrote: > >> Yeah, Golddwave certainly isn't a bad program. I've never actually >> learned >> how to edit with it, but what i do is record with Goldwave and edit >> everything in sound forge. It just works best for me to have both on my >> system. >> >> >> At 08:00 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote: >>> Hi Jamie, >>> Sounds like you have pretty much made your decision. >>> You felt SoundForge was a resource hog, and probably more program than >>> you >>> need. >>> And Studio Recorder is not the only sound editor one will ever need, >>> so, it sounds like you're are left with GoldWave. >>> The price is right,and it is probably as much sound editor as you will >>> ever >>> need, unless you plan to do some really specialized professional >>> recordings. >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:08 AM >>> Subject: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought >>> >>> >>>> When it was first released, I purchased Sound Forge 6 with noise >>>> reduction >>>> and Jim Snowbarger's scripts. I have since decided that Sound Forge was >>>> probably a lot more program than I really needed. I also purchased >>>> Studio >>>> Recorder which I really like for certain projects that I have worked on >>>> over >>>> the past couple or three years. As those of you who have used it know, >>>> Studio Recorder will never be the only sound editor anyone will ever >>>> use; >>>> it >>>> has some very specialized features that are quite unique to it. >>>> >>>> On my 800MHz Pentium III computer, I found Sound Forge to be a real >>>> resource >>>> hog, and Jim's scripts didn't always behave as expected. No disrespect >>>> intended, Jim, if you're reading this. My old computer's sound card was >>>> a >>>> bit ornery anyway. >>>> >>>> I have recently purchased a Pentium 4 2.66GHz computer and have >>>> installed >>>> Studio Recorder. Now for my decision, hence my request for feedback >>>> from >>>> the >>>> list. I am looking at three options. >>>> >>>> 1. Install Sound Forge 6 with noise reduction. >>>> 2. Evaluate Sound Forge 8 and pay for the upgrade, approximately $150 >>>> if I >>>> read it correctly. >>>> 3. Download and evaluate Goldwave, and possibly pay $48 for yet another >>>> audio program. >>>> >>>>> From the standpoint of accessibility and footprint, which sound editor >>>>> would >>>> the majority of respondents suggest and why? Let's pretend that money >>>> is >>>> no >>>> object, which is certainly not the case. I have just promised myself >>>> that >>>> I'm not going to install and uninstall a myriad of software on this >>>> machine, >>>> so I want to plan my moves carefully. Thanks for all thoughtful >>>> responses. >>>> >>>> Jamie Pauls, MT-BC >>>> http://www.accesswatch.info >>>> >>>> >>>
Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought
Probably something you'd use if you record analog tape, and when you flip sides, as long as those tape machines' power switches are on, they output hiss. The idea is to edit out the pause when you flip sides though. - Original Message - From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: An Audio Decision That Requires Some Thought > A Noise Gate is a system whereby all sound will be suppressed unless > it > reaches a particular decibel level. It's a gate and the sound can't get > through or can't be heard unless it is strong enough to break through. > Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com > ! New DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml > ! Gyration RF Wireless 100 foot range keyboard: $199.00, > www.chirpingbat.com/rfkeyboard.shtml > ! J-Say without Naturally Speaking: Standard $345.00, Professional > $575.00, > www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml > ! Window Eyes 5.0: $700, includes delivery in the USA, > www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml > ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 > outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml > ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2: $250, includes delivery in the > USA, > www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml > ! We accept PayPal Visa, Mastercard, money orders, checks, wire transfers, > etc. > We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency > at: > www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml > > Reach BA Software in the United States at: > Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: > [EMAIL PROTECTED], Skype name adirondackbat, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com > > > ___ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
