RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-20 Thread Tom
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>The sad reality is that the FCC is so hyperfocused on 
>regulating content as opposed to license issues that they 
>blow smoke and not much more. But, if you use a phrase they 
>deem innapropriate you can expect the b;ack helicopters to be 
>circling very soon.




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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-20 Thread Frankie V.
The sad reality is that the FCC is so hyperfocused on regulating content as
opposed to license issues that they blow smoke and not much more. But, if
you use a phrase they deem innapropriate you can expect the b;ack
helicopters to be circling very soon.

Regards,
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do 
anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they 
claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that I

may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very 
strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
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> In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which
> most hobby units are not.
> That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to 
> bother
> you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely
> you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
> The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM
> to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so
>
> Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
> around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else 
> can
> hear it!).
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
>> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
>> transmitter.
>> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most
>> of
>> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in 
>> order
>> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
>> generated
>> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
>> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
>> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
>> meets
>> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
>> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
>> standards that have been set by the FCC.
>> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
>> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
>> dollar range.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go 
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>&g

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-20 Thread Frankie V.
Thanks, I'll give them a call.

Regards,
Frankie V.

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Try going to: www.fmamplifiers.com

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> Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site
> perhaps?
>
> Regards,
> Frankie V.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bob Seed
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
> Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan
> eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>>I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
>> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
>> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the
>> filter
>> seemed to clear up.
>> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass 
>> response
>> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
>> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
>> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it
>> very
>> accessible and quite easy to use.
>> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
>> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from
>> the
>> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
>> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need 
>> to
>> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
>> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the 
>> down
>> button as you'd expect.
>> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
>> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
>> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With 
>> a
>> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away
>> (about
>> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>>
>> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>>> of
>>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are 
>>> there
>>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>>> unit
>>> more accessible?
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>>buttons
>>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of 
>>>> course
>>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E f

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-14 Thread Bob Seed
because they follow the flock!
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Johnathan,
> it's refreshing to know that transmission rules are so relaxed in Nz, but
> what is the point of broadcasting to a load of sheep!!!???
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. .
>> Here
>> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
>> of
>> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
>> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
>> reserve
>> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
>> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
>> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
>> hours.
>> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there 
>> on
>> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-14 Thread John Land
Johnathan,
it's refreshing to know that transmission rules are so relaxed in Nz, but 
what is the point of broadcasting to a load of sheep!!!???

Regards,

John
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> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . 
> Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
> of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
> reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
> hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Bob Seed

Sign me up as well to go to New Zealand the land of free play radio!!! Well 
that little transmitter that I recommended will indeed do the job, as you 
can push the envelope a little with a good well tuned external antenna and 
still stay within limits, and the radio police won't come after you. As I 
said in a previous post this is the closest thing to a commercial broadcast 
transmitter. As this guy builds most of his stuff from scratch he can do 
just about anything to make it accessible, and from what I have been able to 
gather from previous posts to this list he has done just that.   .

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:15 AM
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> Well, you guys probably don't have an NPR who wants all the freqs for all
> their translators and therefore is very much against LP FM.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. .
>> Here
>> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
>> of
>> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
>> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
>> reserve
>> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
>> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
>> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
>> hours.
>> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there 
>> on
>> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
We do have a kind of NPR equivalent, but it is fully Government funded and I
think is a bit more like the BBC, CBC, or Australia's ABC. 

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Well, you guys probably don't have an NPR who wants all the freqs for all
their translators and therefore is very much against LP FM.


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . 
> Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
> of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
> reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
> hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Mike Pietruk
ReRemember something else about New Zealand:  because of its geographic 
location and relative isolation from other land areas:
the radio spectrum is going to be far less cluttered than in North America 
or Western Europe.
Hence, the government can be far more lenient and liberal in allowing use 
of the spectrum.
Just imagine, for instance, what would occur in the Midwest or Northeast 
USA if suddenly FCC regs changed and allowed more or less unregulated 
low-power fm use.
It might work well in Wyoming or Montana or Manitoba; but it would hardly 
play well in Chicago, Boston or Toronto.
The fm band would become like the old cb band with constant interference, 
hash, and noise; and that would serve no one's interest.
For those who wish playing with their own radio stations, the net would 
seem a far better venue.




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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Jason Boston
Hi all, I'm hoping for a good one that's around the $75 to $100 range.

Thanks,
Jason


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Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big
fat 
Smile)

Matthew
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. .
> Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum
power 
> of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply
for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
> reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there
are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
> hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out
there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Chuck Adkins
Well, you guys probably don't have an NPR who wants all the freqs for all 
their translators and therefore is very much against LP FM.


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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . 
> Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
> of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
> reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
> hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
>
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
The beer is utterly brilliant. And if you Google, maybe you will find wave
files of someone opening a few choice cans and bottles. Just put that in
there to stay on topic.


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Well, if the beer's good, I'm off the New Zealand, smile. 

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Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

Jonathan

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approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

Jonathan



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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Dave, it's been a while since I was involved in this but I believe it is
ERP. The only restriction I can recall is that they have limits on the
number of transmitters you can have for the one station, to prevent people
from using these frequencies to do networking on the cheap.

Jonathan

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Jonathan,

When you talk about power output.  In the New Zealand regulations do they
refer to rf output power or affective radiated power.  Output being power
out of the transmitter itself and affective radiated power being output
taking into account antenna, height, feed line loss, and height above
average terrain.  Are there any regulations regarding antenna height or
antenna gain?

Dave Marthouse
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> Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
> etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of albert griffith
> Sent: Friday, 14 September 2007 1:20 a.m.
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>
> approximately, how far does one watt take your signal?
>
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>
> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. .
Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-13 Thread Dave Marthouse
Jonathan,

When you talk about power output.  In the New Zealand regulations do they
refer to rf output power or affective radiated power.  Output being power
out of the transmitter itself and affective radiated power being output
taking into account antenna, height, feed line loss, and height above
average terrain.  Are there any regulations regarding antenna height or
antenna gain?

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> Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
> etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of albert griffith
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>
> approximately, how far does one watt take your signal?
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:02 AM
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> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>
> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. .
Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power
of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group
reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three
hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread albert griffith
Well, if the beer's good, I'm off the New Zealand, smile. 

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Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

Jonathan

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approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi Albert, it varies quite a lot depending on terrain, adjacent channels
etc. With the right combination you can cover 10 KM pretty well.

Jonathan

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approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Um no I don't, I work in New Zealand. Except for US shows such as NFB, ACB,
CSUN etc. 

Jonathan 

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Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big fat
Smile)

Matthew
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> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . 
> Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
> of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
> reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
> hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread albert griffith
approximately, how far does one watt take your signal? 

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Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

Jonathan



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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Matthew2007
Yeah, but you work in the land of opportunities here in the USA. (Big fat 
Smile)

Matthew
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> Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . 
> Here
> anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power 
> of
> 1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
> any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group 
> reserve
> the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
> fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
> identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three 
> hours.
> But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
> those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.
>
> Jonathan
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Doc
John also be aware of the royalty charges you will have to pay per song.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:02 PM
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> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
> frequency
> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
> \
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hello Russell,this is John.
>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, 
>> and
>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted 
>> to.
>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
>> it
>> out of my house.
>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
>> obtaining.
>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
>>   John Price.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
>>> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
>>> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
>>> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>>>
>>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
>>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
>>> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
>>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
>>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
>>> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
>>> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
>>> info is surely appreciated.
>>>
>>> Rusty
>>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>>>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>>>http://www.wavemach.com.
>>>>
>>>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna 
>>>>socket
>>>>at
>>>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>>>>
>>>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
>>>>a
>>>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
>>>>what
>>>>you pay for though.
>>>>
>>>>Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>>>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Hi all,
>>>> > 

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hmmm, I'm glad to be living in new Zealand, land of the free. . Here
anyone is entitled to set up a low power FM station with a maximum power of
1 watt, within two defined areas of spectrum. You don't have to apply for
any license, just set up and go. The Radio Spectrum management group reserve
the right to come and inspect your installation at any time and there are
fines if you're over power. You also are required to do a station
identification that provides contact details a minimum of every three hours.
But that's it. Simple. And you'll find some of the best radio out there on
those frequencies. Lots of niche and community broadcasters.

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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
A 50 watt lo-power station can be put on the air for about 10 grand. This 
would of course include the cost of the transmitter, antenna, computer, and 
associated hardware and software.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:29 PM
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> Yeah, when I looked into it, I was told that there is the need to hire
> lawyers, familiar with the ins and outs, which gets beyond what that web
> site that Bob is talking about, contains, I think!   One has to come up 
> with
> a non profit entity, or not, depending on what one wants to do with it and
> how much time and capital one has to put into it; not for me, either!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the
>> lottery!
>> There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!
>>
>> -Mac-
>> ----- Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
>> millions like a commercial license.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in 
>>> the
>>> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>>>
>>> -Mac-
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
>>> religious
>>> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
>>> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
>>> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
>>> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> High Dave,
>>>> I will take this to heart.
>>>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>>>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the
>>>> license
>>>> to
>>>> use it.
>>>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>>>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>>>  John Price.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
>>>>> with
>>>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>>>> regs.
>>>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>>>> Bulletin
>>>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>>>> for
>>>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you wo

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
I remember reading that story. The loophole for Ramsey is that they will 
take no responsibility for any modification that is done to their 
transmitters after sale. It is my understanding that they will sell their 
products outside of the United States.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> I'm not sure about that particular situation but I know they fined Ramsey
> Electronics several thousand dollars a couple of years ago for selling
> transmitters that weren't part 15 compliant.
> You can no longer buy one of their for export transmitters and sign a form
> saying you will export it to a country where it is legal.
> The units in question were one wat, significantly over the part 15 limit 
> but
> I'll bet there are hundreds of us around the country who own one!
> I wonder if you can still buy one of the transmitters you shave anywhere
> (except on Ebay maybe)?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do
>> anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they
>> claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think 
>> that
>> I
>> may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very
>> strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .
>>
>> - Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant 
>>> which
>>> most hobby units are not.
>>> That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to
>>> bother
>>> you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less 
>>> likely
>>> you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
>>> The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the
>>> FM
>>> to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so
>>>
>>> Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
>>> around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else
>>> can
>>> hear it!).
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
>>>> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
>>>> transmitter.
>>>> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. 
>>>> Most
>>>> of
>>>> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in
>>>> order
>>>> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
>>>> generated
>>>> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
>>>> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for 
>>>> a
>>>> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
>>>> meets
>>>> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
>>>> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
>>>> standards that have been set by the FCC.
>>>> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
>>>> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
>>>> dollar range.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
>>>>> with
>>>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
That is indeed true. It is my understanding that this falls under the 
category of a developmental or an occasional licence. The occasional licence 
allows one to broadcast small community events such as a charity walk or 
fishing festival. With this licence you can't sell advertising, but you can 
give credit to those sponsors that supported your event by donating food 
etc. The occasional licence has to be renewed every three months or so. 
Developmental licences are usually given out to community radio societies, 
schools, and not for profit organizations. I am not aware of broadcast 
licences being given out to individuals per say, but I do recall a special 
exemption being granted to an individual who wanted to operate a 1 watt 
developmental radio station on a first nations reserve For a Canadian 
prospective go to www.crtc.ca
   .  . .   . .  .
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Seems to me I recall in Canada you can get a limited license for 1 watt
> under certain circumstances.  That isn't true in the US though.
> Perhaps you can comment on that Bob?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>>I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing
>> the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations
>> in
>> the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several
>> classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of
>> documentation
>> in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified
>> broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered 
>> as
>> being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is
>> unprotected.
>> -- Original Message - 
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> High Bob,
>>> You can run a radio station from your home.
>>> And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm
>>> looking
>>> in to.
>>> And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier,
>>> there is no modification needed.
>>> You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
>>> It's strictly plug and play!
>>> But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
>>>  John Price.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict 
>>>> rules
>>>> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything 
>>>> over
>>>> 1
>>>> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
>>>> frequency
>>>> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another
>>>> broadcaster.
>>>> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
>>>> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
>>>> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
>>>> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
>>>> \
>>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Russell,this is John.
>>>>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
>>>>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use,
>>>>> and
>>>>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
>>>>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted
>>>>> to.
>>>>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and
>>>>> run
>>>>> it
>>>>> out of my house.
>>>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
I'm not sure about that particular situation but I know they fined Ramsey 
Electronics several thousand dollars a couple of years ago for selling 
transmitters that weren't part 15 compliant.
You can no longer buy one of their for export transmitters and sign a form 
saying you will export it to a country where it is legal.
The units in question were one wat, significantly over the part 15 limit but 
I'll bet there are hundreds of us around the country who own one!
I wonder if you can still buy one of the transmitters you shave anywhere 
(except on Ebay maybe)?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do
> anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they
> claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that 
> I
> may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very
> strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which
>> most hobby units are not.
>> That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to
>> bother
>> you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely
>> you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
>> The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the 
>> FM
>> to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so
>>
>> Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
>> around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else
>> can
>> hear it!).
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
>>> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
>>> transmitter.
>>> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most
>>> of
>>> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in
>>> order
>>> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
>>> generated
>>> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
>>> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
>>> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
>>> meets
>>> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
>>> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
>>> standards that have been set by the FCC.
>>> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
>>> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
>>> dollar range.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least 
>>>> with
>>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>>> regs.
>>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>>> Bulletin
>>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>>> for
>>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get
>>>> caught",
>>>> or
>>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
>>>> I,
>>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>>> not
>>>> to
>>>> tell anyone what to do or 

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
The FCC has a tendency to use a lot of scare tactics. Did they ever do 
anything about the Sirius radios that had the FM transmitter that they 
claimed to broadcast well beyond the regulated coverage area? I think that I 
may have one of those radios, as the built in FM transmitter has a very 
strong signal that can be picked up around most of my crescent. .   .

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which
> most hobby units are not.
> That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to 
> bother
> you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely
> you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
> The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM
> to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so
>
> Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits
> around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else 
> can
> hear it!).
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
>> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this
>> transmitter.
>> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most
>> of
>> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in 
>> order
>> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is
>> generated
>> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
>> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
>> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter
>> meets
>> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
>> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
>> standards that have been set by the FCC.
>> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
>> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
>> dollar range.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go 
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>> meters.
>>> This
>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
>>> focuses
>>> only
>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
>>> One
>>> nanowatt
>>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>>> mentioned
>>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
Seems to me I recall in Canada you can get a limited license for 1 watt 
under certain circumstances.  That isn't true in the US though.
Perhaps you can comment on that Bob?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


>I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing
> the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations 
> in
> the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several
> classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of 
> documentation
> in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified
> broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered as
> being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is
> unprotected.
> -- Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> High Bob,
>> You can run a radio station from your home.
>> And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm
>> looking
>> in to.
>> And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier,
>> there is no modification needed.
>> You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
>> It's strictly plug and play!
>> But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
>>  John Price.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
>>> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over
>>> 1
>>> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
>>> frequency
>>> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another
>>> broadcaster.
>>> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
>>> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
>>> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
>>> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
>>> \
>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Russell,this is John.
>>>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
>>>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use,
>>>> and
>>>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
>>>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted
>>>> to.
>>>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and 
>>>> run
>>>> it
>>>> out of my house.
>>>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000
>>>> watt
>>>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
>>>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
>>>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
>>>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
>>>> obtaining.
>>>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
>>>>   John Price.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
>>>>> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
>>>>> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
>>>>> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
>>>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
The lottery is for available FM frequencies in the United States, and those 
frequencies are very hard to find these days especially in urban areas. 
Digital radio will solve that problem in a few years.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the
>> lottery!
>> There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!
>>
>> -Mac-
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
>> millions like a commercial license.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in 
>>> the
>>> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>>>
>>> -Mac-
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
>>> religious
>>> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
>>> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
>>> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
>>> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> High Dave,
>>>> I will take this to heart.
>>>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>>>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the
>>>> license
>>>> to
>>>> use it.
>>>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>>>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>>>  John Price.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
>>>>> with
>>>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>>>> regs.
>>>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>>>> Bulletin
>>>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>>>> for
>>>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get
>>>>> caught",
>>>>> or
>>>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
>>>>> I,
>>>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent 
>>>>> is
>>>>> not
>>>>> to
>>>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
>>>>> so
>>>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>>>> decide
>&g

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
I would not risk it with a thousand watt amplifier. That is indeed pushing 
the envelope. I am afraid that I am not familiar with the FCC regulations in 
the United States, but in Canada they are much different. We have several 
classes of licences in Canada Most of them requiring a lot of documentation 
in the form of a technical brief that has to be performed by a qualified 
broadcast engineer. In Canada anything under 50 watts ERP is considered as 
being low power. This means that the frequency that has been alocated is 
unprotected.
-- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> High Bob,
> You can run a radio station from your home.
> And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm 
> looking
> in to.
> And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier,
> there is no modification needed.
> You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
> It's strictly plug and play!
> But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
>  John Price.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
>> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 
>> 1
>> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the
>> frequency
>> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another 
>> broadcaster.
>> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
>> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
>> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
>> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
>> \
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Hello Russell,this is John.
>>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
>>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use,
>>> and
>>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
>>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted
>>> to.
>>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
>>> it
>>> out of my house.
>>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 
>>> watt
>>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
>>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
>>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
>>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
>>> obtaining.
>>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
>>>   John Price.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
>>>> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
>>>> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
>>>> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
>>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>>>>
>>>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
>>>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
>>>> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
>>>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
>>>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
>>>> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
>>>> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
>>>> info is surely appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Rusty
>>>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>>>>  couple of months ago, th

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
In theory they can insist that the transmitter is part 15 compliant which 
most hobby units are not.
That is not to say that this unit or any other will cause the FCC to bother 
you just to bare in mind that the lower the power you use the less likely 
you will be to have your transmitter called into question.
The FCC did a study last year of many hobby units including many of the FM 
to car radio units and found them to be noncompliant so

Having said all that a unit whether compliant or not that only transmits 
around your home won't cause you problems (basically because no one else can 
hear it!).
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not
> suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this 
> transmitter.
> You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most 
> of
> us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order
> to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is 
> generated
> from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a
> transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a
> formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter 
> meets
> their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant
> transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent
> standards that have been set by the FCC.
> Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal
> transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand
> dollar range.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>> regs.
>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>> Bulletin
>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for
>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught",
>> or
>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>> not
>> to
>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>> decide
>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, 
>> I
>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>
>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>> meters.
>> This
>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
>> only
>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
>> nanowatt
>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>> mentioned
>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
>> information
>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>> believing
>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>> delivered
>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>> strengths
>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>> transmitter output power.
>>
>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
>> for NOUO and NAL):
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>>
>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
>> but
>> consider
>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
Good guidelines to follow. When I suggest pushing the envelope I am not 
suggesting that you should broadcast beyond the limits of this transmitter. 
You certainly don't want to annoy your neighbour with interference. Most of 
us simply want a transmitter to cover the area of an average home in order 
to re broadcast satellite radio or other audio programming that is generated 
from a computer data base. In this case there is no need to get a 
transmitter that is FCC or IC compliant. It is only when you apply for a 
formal broadcast licence that the FCC will insist that the transmitter meets 
their standards, and is FCC compliant. In other words an FCC compliant 
transmitter is one that has been approved and has met the stringent 
standards that have been set by the FCC.
Personally I would not want to risk being caught with an illegal 
transmitter, as the fines are very steep. Somewhere in the 10-thousand 
dollar range.

 - Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and 
> regs.
> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics 
> Bulletin
> Board from which I copied this info.
>
> Hello All,
>
> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for
> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", 
> or
> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is 
> not
> to
> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
> decide
> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I
> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>
> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 
> meters.
> This
> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
> only
> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
> nanowatt
> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically 
> mentioned
> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
> information
> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into 
> believing
> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
> delivered
> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
> strengths
> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
> transmitter output power.
>
> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
> for NOUO and NAL):
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>
> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK 
> but
> consider
> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:
>
> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249
>
> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578
>
> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air.
> This
> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the
> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
> certified
> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to 
> be
> gained
> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a 
> kit
> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!
>
> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit 
> to
> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an 
> information
> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a 
> legal
> station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Mac Norins
Sort of like flying an ultralight plane, eh?

OK, I'm done with my part of this thread!
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


The transmitter that has been recommended on this list falls into the
category of micro broadcasting. You can leagually push the emvelope of this
little powerhouse without having the FCC cops come knocking on your door.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
> religious
> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> High Dave,
>> I will take this to heart.
>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
>> to
>> use it.
>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>  John Price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>> meters.
>>> This
>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
>>> focuses
>>> only
>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
>>> One
>>> nanowatt
>>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>>> mentioned
>>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
>>> meaningful
>>> information
>>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>>> believing
>>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>>> delivered
>>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>>> strengths
>>> in the range of that which can easil

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Mac Norins
Yeah, when I looked into it, I was told that there is the need to hire 
lawyers, familiar with the ins and outs, which gets beyond what that web 
site that Bob is talking about, contains, I think!   One has to come up with 
a non profit entity, or not, depending on what one wants to do with it and 
how much time and capital one has to put into it; not for me, either!
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the
> lottery!
> There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
> millions like a commercial license.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
>> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>>
>> -Mac-
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
>> religious
>> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
>> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
>> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
>> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> High Dave,
>>> I will take this to heart.
>>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the
>>> license
>>> to
>>> use it.
>>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>>  John Price.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least
>>>> with
>>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>>> regs.
>>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>>> Bulletin
>>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>>> for
>>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get
>>>> caught",
>>>> or
>>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
>>>> I,
>>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>>> not
>>>> to
>>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
>>>> so
>>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>>> decide
>>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other
>>>> inaccuracies,
>>>> I
>>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>>
>>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the 

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
Not me!  Even if I had the money I wouldn't want the aggrevation.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the 
> lottery!
> There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
> millions like a commercial license.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
>> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>>
>> -Mac-
>> ----- Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
>> religious
>> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
>> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
>> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
>> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> High Dave,
>>> I will take this to heart.
>>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the 
>>> license
>>> to
>>> use it.
>>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>>  John Price.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least 
>>>> with
>>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>>> regs.
>>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>>> Bulletin
>>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>>> for
>>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get
>>>> caught",
>>>> or
>>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
>>>> I,
>>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>>> not
>>>> to
>>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
>>>> so
>>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>>> decide
>>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other 
>>>> inaccuracies,
>>>> I
>>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>>
>>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among 
>>>> other
>>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>>> meters.
>>>> This
>>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. 
>>>> This
>>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
>>>> focuses
>>>> only
>>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole ant

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
The transmitter that has been recommended on this list falls into the 
category of micro broadcasting. You can leagually push the emvelope of this 
little powerhouse without having the FCC cops come knocking on your door.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a 
> religious
> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> High Dave,
>> I will take this to heart.
>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
>> to
>> use it.
>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>  John Price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go 
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>> meters.
>>> This
>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
>>> focuses
>>> only
>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
>>> One
>>> nanowatt
>>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>>> mentioned
>>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
>>> meaningful
>>> information
>>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>>> believing
>>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>>> delivered
>>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>>> strengths
>>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>>> transmitter output power.
>>>
>>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
>>> (look
>>> for NOUO and NAL):
>>>
>>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>>>
>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Mac Norins
Well, if you have that kind of dough, then, by all means, join the lottery! 
There is a lottery, for this; hope you are aware of that!

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or
millions like a commercial license.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a
> religious
> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
> - Original Message ----- 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> High Dave,
>> I will take this to heart.
>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
>> to
>> use it.
>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>  John Price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>> meters.
>>> This
>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and
>>> focuses
>>> only
>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna.
>>> One
>>> nanowatt
>>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>>> mentioned
>>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any
>>> meaningful
>>> information
>>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>>> believing
>>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>>> delivered
>>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>>> strengths
>>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>>> transmitter out

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
The following website should give  you all of the information that you will 
need in obtaining a broadcast licence in the United States.
 http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/lowpwr.html

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
> frequency
> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
> \
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hello Russell,this is John.
>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, 
>> and
>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted 
>> to.
>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
>> it
>> out of my house.
>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
>> obtaining.
>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
>>   John Price.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
>>> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
>>> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
>>> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>>>
>>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
>>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
>>> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
>>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
>>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
>>> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
>>> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
>>> info is surely appreciated.
>>>
>>> Rusty
>>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>>>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>>>http://www.wavemach.com.
>>>>
>>>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna 
>>>>socket
>>>>at
>>>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>>>>
>>>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
>>>>a
>>>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
>>>>what
>>>>you pay for though.
>>>>
>>>>Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>>>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>>>>Subjec

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
Oh yeah!  But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or 
millions like a commercial license.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the
> U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!
>
> -Mac-
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a 
> religious
> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> High Dave,
>> I will take this to heart.
>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
>> to
>> use it.
>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>  John Price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go 
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>> meters.
>>> This
>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
>>> focuses
>>> only
>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
>>> One
>>> nanowatt
>>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>>> mentioned
>>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
>>> meaningful
>>> information
>>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>>> believing
>>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>>> delivered
>>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>>> strengths
>>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>>> transmitter output power.
>>>
>>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
>>> (look
>>> for NOUO and NAL):
>>>
>>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>>>
>>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>>>
>>> You will see that there are ma

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Mac Norins
Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the 
U.S. as well!  I looked into it and it is a night mare!

-Mac-
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious
organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> High Dave,
> I will take this to heart.
> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
> to
> use it.
> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>  John Price.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>> regs.
>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>> Bulletin
>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for
>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught",
>> or
>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>> not
>> to
>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>> decide
>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>> I
>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>
>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>> meters.
>> This
>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
>> only
>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
>> nanowatt
>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>> mentioned
>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
>> information
>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>> believing
>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>> delivered
>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>> strengths
>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>> transmitter output power.
>>
>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
>> for NOUO and NAL):
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>>
>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
>> but
>> consider
>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:
>>
>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249
>>
>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578
>>
>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the
>> air.
>> This
>> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with
>> the
>> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
>> certified
>> nor 

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Dave,
I will take this to heart too!
Thinks a hole bunch!
  John Price.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a 
> religious
> organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats
> legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I
> understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is
> impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> High Dave,
>> I will take this to heart.
>> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
>> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license
>> to
>> use it.
>> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
>> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>>  John Price.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>>> regs.
>>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>>> Bulletin
>>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go 
>>> for
>>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get 
>>> caught",
>>> or
>>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as 
>>> I,
>>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>>> not
>>> to
>>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information 
>>> so
>>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>>> decide
>>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies,
>>> I
>>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>>
>>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>>> meters.
>>> This
>>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and 
>>> focuses
>>> only
>>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. 
>>> One
>>> nanowatt
>>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>>> mentioned
>>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any 
>>> meaningful
>>> information
>>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>>> believing
>>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>>> delivered
>>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>>> strengths
>>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>>> transmitter output power.
>>>
>>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links 
>>> (look
>>> for NOUO and NAL):
>>>
>>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>>>
>>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>>>
>>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
>>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
>>> but
>>> consider
>>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
>>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:
>>>
>>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249
>>>
>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a religious 
organization.  LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats 
legally with an LPFM license.  They're not easy to get from what I 
understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is 
impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY!
- Original Message - 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> High Dave,
> I will take this to heart.
> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license 
> to
> use it.
> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
> This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
>  John Price.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and
>> regs.
>> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics
>> Bulletin
>> Board from which I copied this info.
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for
>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught",
>> or
>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is
>> not
>> to
>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
>> decide
>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, 
>> I
>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>>
>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3
>> meters.
>> This
>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
>> only
>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
>> nanowatt
>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically
>> mentioned
>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
>> information
>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into
>> believing
>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
>> delivered
>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
>> strengths
>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
>> transmitter output power.
>>
>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
>> for NOUO and NAL):
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>>
>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>>
>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK
>> but
>> consider
>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:
>>
>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249
>>
>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578
>>
>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the 
>> air.
>> This
>> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with 
>> the
>> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
>> certified
>> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
>> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to
>> be
>> gained
>> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a
>> kit
>> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!
>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Dave,
I will take this to heart.
After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land."
So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license to 
use it.
Oh, by the way, thinks for the info!
This will make my research a hole lot more easier.
  John Price.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with
> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and 
> regs.
> These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics 
> Bulletin
> Board from which I copied this info.
>
> Hello All,
>
> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for
> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", 
> or
> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I,
> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is 
> not
> to
> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so
> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can
> decide
> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I
> will welcome and acknowledge corrections.
>
> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other
> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 
> meters.
> This
> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This
> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses
> only
> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field
> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One
> nanowatt
> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically 
> mentioned
> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful
> information
> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into 
> believing
> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output
> delivered
> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400
> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field
> strengths
> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt
> transmitter output power.
>
> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look
> for NOUO and NAL):
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/
>
> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html
>
> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed
> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK 
> but
> consider
> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the
> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:
>
> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249
>
> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578
>
> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good
> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air.
> This
> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the
> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC
> certified
> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the
> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to 
> be
> gained
> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a 
> kit
> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!
>
> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit 
> to
> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an 
> information
> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a 
> legal
> station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the 
> regulations,
> but this is probably close enough.
>
> You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater
> range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier
> attitude
> on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who
> intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a
> change
> in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the
> market
>
> It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have 
> read
> this, that you will do so knowing what is involved.
&g

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Dave McLean
Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with 
regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S.
Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and regs. 
These rules are summarized below.  Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics Bulletin 
Board from which I copied this info.

Hello All,

After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go for 
it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get caught", or
many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as I, 
explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is not 
to
tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information so 
those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can 
decide
on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, I 
will welcome and acknowledge corrections.

The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other 
things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 meters. 
This
is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This 
limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and focuses 
only
on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field 
strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. One 
nanowatt
is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically mentioned 
about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any meaningful 
information
about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into believing 
that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output 
delivered
to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 
times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field 
strengths
in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt 
transmitter output power.

If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links (look 
for NOUO and NAL):

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html

You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed 
operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK but 
consider
the information on the following links, especially with regard to the 
calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions:

http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249

http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578

You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a good 
source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the air. 
This
is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with the 
rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC 
certified
nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the 
responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to be 
gained
that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a kit 
from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you!

I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit to 
less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an information
sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a legal 
station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the regulations,
but this is probably close enough.

You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much greater 
range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier 
attitude
on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who 
intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a 
change
in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the 
market

It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have read 
this, that you will do so knowing what is involved.

Neil


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
> frequency
> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
> \
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
High Bob,
You can run a radio station from your home.
And you can get an FCC license to do it.\This is something that I'm looking 
in to.
And what I was saying about hooking the transmitter up to an amplifier, 
there is no modification needed.
You just put the amplifier between the transmitter and the antenna.
It's strictly plug and play!
But rest a sure, I will do things by the book.
  John Price.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules
> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1
> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the 
> frequency
> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster.
> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than
> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not
> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast
> beyond the recommended coverage area. .
> \
> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hello Russell,this is John.
>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, 
>> and
>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted 
>> to.
>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run
>> it
>> out of my house.
>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
>> obtaining.
>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
>>   John Price.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>
>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
>>> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
>>> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
>>> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>>>
>>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
>>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
>>> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
>>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
>>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
>>> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
>>> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
>>> info is surely appreciated.
>>>
>>> Rusty
>>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>>>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>>>http://www.wavemach.com.
>>>>
>>>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna 
>>>>socket
>>>>at
>>>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>>>>
>>>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
>>>>a
>>>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
>>>>what
>>>>you pay for though.
>>>>
>>>>Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message -
>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict rules 
governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything over 1 
watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the frequency 
that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another broadcaster. 
The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than 
adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not 
responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast 
beyond the recommended coverage area. .
\
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hello Russell,this is John.
> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, and
> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted to.
> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run 
> it
> out of my house.
> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt
> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about
> obtaining.
> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
>   John Price.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
>> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
>> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
>> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>>
>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
>> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
>> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
>> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
>> info is surely appreciated.
>>
>> Rusty
>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>>http://www.wavemach.com.
>>>
>>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket
>>>at
>>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>>>
>>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth 
>>>a
>>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
>>>what
>>>you pay for though.
>>>
>>>Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
>>> > with
>>> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 
>>> > 150+
>>> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
>>> > broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>>> >
>>> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply 
>>> > options
>>> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>>> >
>>> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
>>> &

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Bob Seed
Try going to: www.fmamplifiers.com

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From: "Frankie V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site
> perhaps?
>
> Regards,
> Frankie V.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Bob Seed
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
> Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan
> eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>>I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
>> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
>> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the
>> filter
>> seemed to clear up.
>> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass 
>> response
>> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
>> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
>> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it
>> very
>> accessible and quite easy to use.
>> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
>> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from
>> the
>> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
>> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need 
>> to
>> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
>> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the 
>> down
>> button as you'd expect.
>> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
>> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
>> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With 
>> a
>> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away
>> (about
>> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>>
>> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>>> of
>>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are 
>>> there
>>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>>> unit
>>> more accessible?
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>>buttons
>>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of 
>>>> course
>>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes 
>>>>> complete
>>>>> with
>>>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power 
>>>>> supply
>>>>> that
>>>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>>>
>>>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on
>>>>> t

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Frankie V.
OK, I got the model number now. What modifications were they able to make
for you on that transmitter?

Regards,
Frankie V.

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On Behalf Of russell Bourgoin
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in 
your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is 
high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you 
requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to 
obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I 
bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing 
the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the 
barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so 
they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios 
in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, 
altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any 
info is surely appreciated.

Rusty
 > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>http://www.wavemach.com.
>
>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket
at
>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>
>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what
>you pay for though.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well with
> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
> > broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
> >
> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
> >
> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I don't
> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
> > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
> >
> > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
> > Jason
> >
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-12 Thread Frankie V.
Can you give us a make and model number of this transmitter and a web site
perhaps?

Regards,
Frankie V.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Seed
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:36 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan 
eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


>I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the 
> filter
> seemed to clear up.
> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response
> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it 
> very
> accessible and quite easy to use.
> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from 
> the
> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to
> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down
> button as you'd expect.
> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a
> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away 
> (about
> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>
> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>> of
>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>> unit
>> more accessible?
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>buttons
>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>> Jonathan
>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>>>> with
>>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>>>> that
>>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>>
>>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on 
>>>> the
>>>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
>>>> than
>>>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
>>>> get.
>>>> I
>>>> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
>>>> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
>>>> your
>>>> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified
>>>> otherwise
>>>> it
>>>> would have to be licenced.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>
>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread DJ DOCTOR P
Hello Russell,this is John.
I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers.
You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, and 
hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier.
This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted to.
Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and run it 
out of my house.
But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 watt 
amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me.
The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong.
The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast.
This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about 
obtaining.
Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio.
   John Price.

- Original Message - 
From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>
> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
> info is surely appreciated.
>
> Rusty
> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>http://www.wavemach.com.
>>
>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket 
>>at
>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>>
>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get 
>>what
>>you pay for though.
>>
>>Jonathan
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well 
>> > with
>> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
>> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
>> > broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>> >
>> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
>> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>> >
>> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
>> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I 
>> > don't
>> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
>> > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>> >
>> > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
>> > Jason
>> >
>> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
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>> > 9/9/2007 10:17 AM
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Dave McLean
Ok I think that's the Optimod 8400 emulator.  I'll give it a shot.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


>I downloaded an optimod emulator preset, I forget from where now but it may
> be on the Sound Solution site. It's pretty good when we put 
> StationPlaylist
> Studio on playing a range of music.
I'd like to give the Station Playlist Studio a try also.  Haven't used it 
yet.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Dave McLean
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 12:54 p.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
> Which of the Sound Solution presets do you use (assuming you use it)?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:45 PM
> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> If you're into highs, using a processor plug-in like Sound Solution for
>> Winamp can give you pretty nice results. That's interesting about the
>> wireless network issue, our media center and the router are in different
>> rooms so I hadn't had cause to find that one out.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Dave McLean
>> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 11:54 a.m.
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>> I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
>> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
>> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the
>> filter
>> seemed to clear up.
>> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass 
>> response
>> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
>> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
>> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it
>> very
>> accessible and quite easy to use.
>> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
>> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from
>> the
>> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
>> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need 
>> to
>> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
>> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the 
>> down
>> button as you'd expect.
>> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
>> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
>> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With 
>> a
>> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away
>> (about
>> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>>
>> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>>> of
>>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are 
>>> there
>>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>>> unit
>>> more accessible?
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>>buttons
>>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of 
>>>> course
>>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>>> Jonathan
>>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: &quo

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Jonathan Mosen
I downloaded an optimod emulator preset, I forget from where now but it may
be on the Sound Solution site. It's pretty good when we put StationPlaylist
Studio on playing a range of music.
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dave McLean
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 12:54 p.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

Which of the Sound Solution presets do you use (assuming you use it)?
- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> If you're into highs, using a processor plug-in like Sound Solution for
> Winamp can give you pretty nice results. That's interesting about the
> wireless network issue, our media center and the router are in different
> rooms so I hadn't had cause to find that one out.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Dave McLean
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 11:54 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
> I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the 
> filter
> seemed to clear up.
> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response
> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it 
> very
> accessible and quite easy to use.
> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from 
> the
> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to
> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down
> button as you'd expect.
> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a
> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away 
> (about
> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>
> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>> of
>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>> unit
>> more accessible?
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>buttons
>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>> Jonathan
>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>>>> with
>>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>>>> that
>>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>>
>>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on 
>>>> the
>>>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
>>>> than
>>>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
>>>> get.
>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Dave McLean
Which of the Sound Solution presets do you use (assuming you use it)?
- Original Message - 
From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> If you're into highs, using a processor plug-in like Sound Solution for
> Winamp can give you pretty nice results. That's interesting about the
> wireless network issue, our media center and the router are in different
> rooms so I hadn't had cause to find that one out.
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Dave McLean
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 11:54 a.m.
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
> I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the 
> filter
> seemed to clear up.
> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response
> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it 
> very
> accessible and quite easy to use.
> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from 
> the
> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to
> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down
> button as you'd expect.
> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a
> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away 
> (about
> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>
> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>> of
>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>> unit
>> more accessible?
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>buttons
>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>> Jonathan
>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>>>> with
>>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>>>> that
>>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>>
>>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on 
>>>> the
>>>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
>>>> than
>>>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
>>>> get.
>>>> I
>>>> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
>>>> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
>>>> your
>>>> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified
>>>> otherwise
>>>> it
>>>> would have to be licenced.
>>>>
>>>&

RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Jonathan Mosen
If you're into highs, using a processor plug-in like Sound Solution for
Winamp can give you pretty nice results. That's interesting about the
wireless network issue, our media center and the router are in different
rooms so I hadn't had cause to find that one out.

Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dave McLean
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2007 11:54 a.m.
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 

I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the filter
seemed to clear up.
The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response
is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it very
accessible and quite easy to use.
The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from the
others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to
press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down
button as you'd expect.
The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a
whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away (about
1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.

That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
- Original Message -
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion 
> of
> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the 
> unit
> more accessible?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>buttons
>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas 
>> Jonathan
>> was in New Zealand.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>>> with
>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>>> that
>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>
>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the
>>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>>
>>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
>>> than
>>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
>>> get.
>>> I
>>> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
>>> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
>>> your
>>> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified 
>>> otherwise
>>> it
>>> would have to be licenced.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>>
>>> From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
>>>> How many watts do they put out
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: A

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Seed
Well you can't get much better than that with a 4 star rating. As Jonathan 
eloquently stated you pay for what you get.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


>I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
> I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its
> antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the 
> filter
> seemed to clear up.
> The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response
> is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
> I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
> In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it 
> very
> accessible and quite easy to use.
> The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
> To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from 
> the
> others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the
> button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to
> press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
> The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down
> button as you'd expect.
> The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
> The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with
> any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a
> whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away 
> (about
> 1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.
>
> That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion
>> of
>> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
>> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the
>> unit
>> more accessible?
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>>buttons
>>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
>>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas
>>> Jonathan
>>> was in New Zealand.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>>>> with
>>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>>>> that
>>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>>
>>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on 
>>>> the
>>>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
>>>> than
>>>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
>>>> get.
>>>> I
>>>> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
>>>> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
>>>> your
>>>> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified
>>>> otherwise
>>>> it
>>>> would have to be licenced.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>
>>>> From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
>>>>> How many watts do they put out
>>>>>
>>>>> -Origina

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Dave McLean
I think I'd give it 4 out of 5.
I think it needs a harmonics filter which I put between the unit and its 
antenna.  I was getting interference to my wireless network which the filter 
seemed to clear up.
The range however is very good and the sound is quite good.  Bass response 
is outstanding and the highs are good although I'd say not outstanding.
I would say it is definitely worth the $300 plus I spent for it.
In terms of accessibility, the added buttons and volume control make it very 
accessible and quite easy to use.
The man who runs the company (Dave) is quite friendly and helpful.
To give a quick description of the buttons, one which is separated from the 
others turns the unit on and off.  If the unit is off press and hold the 
button for a second or so and it will turn on.  To turn it off you need to 
press and hold in the button for about 4 seconds.
The two additional buttons tune the unit with the up button above the down 
button as you'd expect.
The volume control is on the back of the unit and is easily identifiable.
The antenna is connected with a bnc connector and can be substituted with 
any other including an outdoor antenna if you want improved range.  With a 
whip antenna I received the signal on a car radio about .6 miles away (about 
1 km I'd say). My guess is with an outdoor antenna you'd get over a mile.

That's about it, a pretty straight forward unit.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion 
> of
> the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there
> any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the 
> unit
> more accessible?
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the
>>buttons
>> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
>> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas 
>> Jonathan
>> was in New Zealand.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>>> with
>>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>>> that
>>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>>
>>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the
>>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>>
>>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more
>>> than
>>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you
>>> get.
>>> I
>>> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
>>> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet
>>> your
>>> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified 
>>> otherwise
>>> it
>>> would have to be licenced.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>>
>>> From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
>>> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
>>>> How many watts do they put out
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>>> transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>>> http://www.wavemach.com.
>>>>
>>>> I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>>> construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>>> short, no complaints whatsoever. I 

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Seed
Jonathan has given this transmitter raving reviews. What is your opinion of 
the unitout of five stars?Is it all that you expected it to be? Are there 
any modifications that you would recommend be done in order to make the unit 
more accessible?

 - Original Message - 
From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


>I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the 
>buttons
> for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course
> shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas Jonathan
> was in New Zealand.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete
>> with
>> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply
>> that
>> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>>
>> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the
>> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>>
>> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more 
>> than
>> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you 
>> get.
>> I
>> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
>> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet 
>> your
>> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified otherwise
>> it
>> would have to be licenced.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>>
>> From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
>> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
>>> How many watts do they put out
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>> transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>> http://www.wavemach.com.
>>>
>>> I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>> construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>> short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>> allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>> small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
>>> socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just
>>> a wire.
>>>
>>> So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
>>> a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
>>> what you pay for though.
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>>> Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
>>>> with PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to
>>>> broadcast 150+ feet in a household environment. This is for use in the
>>>
>>>> USA, so the broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>>>>
>>>> I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply
>>>> options like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>>>>
>>>> I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
>>>
>>>> to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
>>>> don't know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you
>>>> can buy at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>> Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
>>>> Jason
>>>

Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Dave McLean
Contact Information:
Telephone

416-243-2260

Fax

973-909-8447

Postal address
Wavemach Communications 320 Dixon road, Suite 302 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA 
M9R-1S8, entry code 131
Electronic mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message - 
From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in
> your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is
> high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you
> requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to
> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?
>
> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I
> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing
> the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the
> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so
> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios
> in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter,
> altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any
> info is surely appreciated.
>
> Rusty
> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>>http://www.wavemach.com.
>>
>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket 
>>at
>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>>
>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get 
>>what
>>you pay for though.
>>
>>Jonathan
>>
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well 
>> > with
>> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
>> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
>> > broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>> >
>> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
>> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>> >
>> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
>> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I 
>> > don't
>> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
>> > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>> >
>> > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
>> > Jason
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread russell Bourgoin
Hi Jonathan,

 I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in 
your mail.  When you say its priced on the high side, how high is 
high?  And, did they charge more for adding the features that you 
requested?  Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to 
obtain a unit tricked out as is yours?

 I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions.  Often I 
bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing 
the say, family day activities.  The cooking crew is off at the 
barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so 
they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios 
in.  Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, 
altered as it is.  Hence my interest in the unit you describe.  Any 
info is surely appreciated.

Rusty
 > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:-
>  couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>http://www.wavemach.com.
>
>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at
>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.
>
>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what
>you pay for though.
>
>Jonathan
>
>
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>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
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> > Hi all,
> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well with
> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
> > broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
> >
> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
> >
> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I don't
> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
> > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
> >
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> > Jason
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Dave McLean
I paid about $340 including the addition of a volume control and the buttons 
for on/off, and station selector plus about $30 for shipping.  Of course 
shipping will vary based on where you are. I am in the US whereas Jonathan 
was in New Zealand.

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters


> Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete 
> with
> a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply 
> that
> works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.
>
> All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the
> back of the unit, and you are on the air!
>
> Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more than
> one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you get. 
> I
> would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on
> pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet your
> requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified otherwise 
> it
> would have to be licenced.
>
> - Original Message - 
>
> From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
> Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
>> How many watts do they put out
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
>> transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
>> http://www.wavemach.com.
>>
>> I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
>> construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
>> short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
>> allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
>> small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
>> socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just
>> a wire.
>>
>> So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
>> a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
>> what you pay for though.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
>> Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
>>> with PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to
>>> broadcast 150+ feet in a household environment. This is for use in the
>>
>>> USA, so the broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>>>
>>> I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply
>>> options like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>>>
>>> I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
>>
>>> to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
>>> don't know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you
>>> can buy at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>>>
>>> Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
>>> Jason
>>>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Seed
Our New FM-100mW-LCD-E fm transmitter is ready to go and comes complete with 
a compact rubber duckie antenna and well regulated 12 volt power supply that 
works with 120 or 240 VAC sources.

All you need to do is hook up your audio source to the RCA inputs on the 
back of the unit, and you are on the air!

 Not exactly sure how much Jonathan paid for it other than it was more than 
one would pay for such a device. He did say that you pay for what you get. I 
would suggest that you call the company in order to get more details on 
pricing. You may also want to have the unit modified in order to meet your 
requirements. The output power is fixed and can not be modified otherwise it 
would have to be licenced.

- Original Message - 

From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: RE: Accessible FM transmitters


> How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
> How many watts do they put out
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Seed
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
> transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
> http://www.wavemach.com.
>
> I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
> construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
> short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
> allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
> small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
> socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just
> a wire.
>
> So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
> a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
> what you pay for though.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
> Subject: Accessible FM transmitters
>
>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well
>> with PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to
>> broadcast 150+ feet in a household environment. This is for use in the
>
>> USA, so the broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>>
>> I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply
>> options like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>>
>> I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
>
>> to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I
>> don't know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you
>> can buy at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>>
>> Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
>> Jason
>>
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RE: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Jed Barton
How much do one of these go for, and what's the range?
How many watts do they put out

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters 


 couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna
socket at the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just
a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth
a look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get
what you pay for though.

Jonathan


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To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hi all,
> I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well 
> with PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to 
> broadcast 150+ feet in a household environment. This is for use in the

> USA, so the broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>
> I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply 
> options like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>
> I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems

> to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I 
> don't know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you 
> can buy at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>
> Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
> Jason
>
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Re: Accessible FM transmitters

2007-09-11 Thread Bob Seed
 couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about FM
transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at
http://www.wavemach.com.

I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the
construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, in
short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control that
allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also added
small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna socket at
the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire.

So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely worth a
look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely get what
you pay for though.

Jonathan


- Original Message - 
From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM
Subject: Accessible FM transmitters


> Hi all,
> I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work well with
> PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast 150+
> feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so the
> broadcasting frequencies  need to end in odd numbers.
>
> I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply options
> like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB.
>
> I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it seems
> to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I don't
> know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can buy
> at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents.
>
> Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise.
> Jason
>
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