Talks question
Hi, I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Hi, It depends on the version of talks. if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited capability. Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap and 3g. Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with talks installed. it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which will definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its inception upon version 3 of talks. hth. - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "pc audio" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: Talks question Hi, I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Talks question
We're located in Canada and Verizon is not 1 of our cell providers. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:31 PM To: pc audio Subject: Talks question Hi, I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.67/2326 - Release Date: 08/25/09 18:07:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Should I buy and download Talks software myself then; can I get version 3 then or can I upgrade the Talks if they preinstall it? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi, It depends on the version of talks. if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited capability. Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap and 3g. Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with talks installed. it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which will definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its inception upon version 3 of talks. hth. - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "pc audio" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: Talks question Hi, I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi, It depends on the version of talks. if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited capability. Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap and 3g. Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with talks installed. it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which will definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its inception upon version 3 of talks. hth. - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "pc audio" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: Talks question Hi, I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Lorne, Perhaps you could get us some specs of this Ozone phone thus we can take a closer look. I don't want to steer you the wrong way here so find out whats up with this phone. Yes You should be able to upgrade your license but again, lets get it right the first time so go find out more about this phone and what is going to be on it. KG - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Should I buy and download Talks software myself then; can I get version 3 then or can I upgrade the Talks if they preinstall it? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Talks question > Hi, > > It depends on the version of talks. > > if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited > capability. > > Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap > and 3g. > > Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with > talks installed. > it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which > will > definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its > inception upon version 3 of talks. > > hth. > - Original Message - > From: "Lauren" > To: "pc audio" > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM > Subject: Talks question > > > Hi, > > I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will > Talks > allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only > have > it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu > options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? > > Thanks. > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Wap is web browsing that is optemised for cell phones. it's limited by it's capabilities where as 3G gives you a full Pc like browsing and hi speed data rates for things like downloads, streaming and the like. - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap? Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: Talks question > Hi, > > It depends on the version of talks. > > if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited > capability. > > Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap > and 3g. > > Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with > talks installed. > it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which > will > definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its > inception upon version 3 of talks. > > hth. > - Original Message - > From: "Lauren" > To: "pc audio" > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM > Subject: Talks question > > > Hi, > > I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will > Talks > allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only > have > it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu > options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? > > Thanks. > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Lauren, Talks for Verizon Wireless is for phones running on the Windows Mobile platform. To get answers to your questions about it, go to http://support.vzw.com/faqs/Features%20and%20Optional%20Services/talks.html On the resulting page, go down to the heading titled: Answers to FAQs Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "pc audio" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: Talks question Hi, I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? Thanks. Sincerely, Lauren To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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OK, is there any version of talks which will work on a cdma phone of any sort such as windows mobile? Lauren wrote: > Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: Talks question > > > > Hi, > > > > It depends on the version of talks. > > > > if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited > > capability. > > > > Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap > > and 3g. > > > > Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with > > talks installed. > > it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 > > which will > > definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its > > inception upon version 3 of talks. > > > > hth. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lauren" > > To: "pc audio" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM > > Subject: Talks question > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data > > phone. Will Talks > > allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they > > only have > > it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu > > options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Lauren > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Talks question
Hi List, I have quite a bit of information regarding Talks and Verizon phones. I'll post tomorrow, my ride is waiting for me and I don't have enough time to go in to detail. Until tomorrow, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of cov...@ccs.covici.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:28 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question OK, is there any version of talks which will work on a cdma phone of any sort such as windows mobile? Lauren wrote: > Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Gillard" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: Talks question > > > > Hi, > > > > It depends on the version of talks. > > > > if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some > > limited capability. > > > > Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet > > both wap and 3g. > > > > Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone > > with talks installed. > > it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 > > which will definately cause you to have limited access since web > > browseing began its inception upon version 3 of talks. > > > > hth. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lauren" > > To: "pc audio" > > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM > > Subject: Talks question > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. > > Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to > > Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. > > Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it > > limited like Vlingo? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Lauren > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ This inbound email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. __ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail,including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,use,disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Talks question
Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new phone. Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many smart phones and with as many carriers. I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data package with your current plan. A Data package gives you access to the Internet and E-mail from your phone. This is not meant for everyone, but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need. If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this list or contact me off list at: tim.mar...@state.nm.us Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks software. http://www.codefactory.es To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program, also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks: http://www.handytech.us/demos.html Hope all this helps. Sincerely, Tim Martin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail,including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,use,disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Talks question
Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new phone. Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many smart phones and with as many carriers. I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data package with your current plan. A Data package gives you access to the Internet and E-mail from your phone. This is not meant for everyone, but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need. If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this list or contact me off list at: tim.mar...@state.nm.us Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks software. http://www.codefactory.es To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program, also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks: http://www.handytech.us/demos.html Hope all this helps. Sincerely, Tim Martin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the Sybari - Antigen Email System. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail,including all attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,use,disclosure or distribution is prohibited unless specifically provided under the New Mexico Inspection of Public Records Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this message. -- This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Talks question
Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question > Good morning List, > > Here is the promised information. > > A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully > accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained > the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech > program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the > Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course > I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all > it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and > compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm > or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't > happen. > > I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few > issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks > program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all > the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of > phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I > discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone > was not the fully functioning version of the program. > > I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after > hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used > on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works > with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was > able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile > Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to > offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a > different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from > Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new > phone. > > Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile > Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many > smart phones and with as many carriers. > > I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone f
Re: Talks question
Lauren, From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text messaging, email and Internet. However, if you look at the answer to question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost. This makes me think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be transferred to another phone later. Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new phone when a better one comes along. If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry to be released by Humanware. They say it will be released soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price. They say it will support all of the core Blackberry applications. This is the only Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web site. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new phone. Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many smart phones and with as many carriers. I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data package with your current plan. A Data package gives you access to the Internet and E-mail from your phone. This is not meant for everyone, but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need. If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this list or contact me off list at: tim.mar...@state.nm.us Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks software. http://www.codefactory.es To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program, also a place to purchase once you've used the
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Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question > Good morning List, > > Here is the promised information. > > A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully > accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained > the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech > program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the > Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course > I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all > it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and > compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm > or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't > happen. > > I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few > issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks > program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use
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I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer your license for free like you can with the normal version. Just check and know what you are getting into. Christopher Chaltain wrote: > Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? > What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the > Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. > > Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile > and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and > now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking > about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile > version. > > I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything > selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's > the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect > the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or > AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of > the screen reader is being sold. > > -- > Christopher > chalt...@gmail.com > > > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: RE: Talks question > > Hi Lauren, > > I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for > most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably > why they get away with selling it for the price they do. > > Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it > does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. > > You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the > Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford > it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile > Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other > Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another > phone. Of course, you can only run the software on > 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. > > Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, > which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I > purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do > charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you > can't get the money at once. > > You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, > need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. > You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not > difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main > source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. > > Any other questions are welcomed. > > Sincerely, > Tim Martin > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Talks question > > > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I > can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose > it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, > email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for > me! > > The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything > and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a > Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I > need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because > of my disability. > > Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM > Subject: RE: Talks question > > > > Good morning List, > > > > Here is the promised information. > > > > A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was > fully > > accessible to blind people. This phone was from
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Hi Gary, Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind people are rich! Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Gary King" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Lauren, From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text messaging, email and Internet. However, if you look at the answer to question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost. This makes me think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be transferred to another phone later. Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new phone when a better one comes along. If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry to be released by Humanware. They say it will be released soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price. They say it will support all of the core Blackberry applications. This is the only Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web site. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new phone. Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many smart phones and with as many carriers. I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data package with your current plan. A Data package gives you acc
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I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cos
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If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question > Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working > version? > What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the > Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. > > Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows > Mobile > and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and > now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when > talking > about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows > Mobile > version. > > I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything > selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's > the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I > suspect > the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or > AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of > the screen reader is being sold. > > -- > Christopher > chalt...@gmail.com > > > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: RE: Talks question > > Hi Lauren, > > I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for > most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably > why they get away with selling it for the price they do. > > Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but > it > does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. > > You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the > Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford > it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile > Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other > Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another > phone. Of course, you can only run the software on > 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. > > Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, > which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I > purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They > do > charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you > can't get the money at once. > > You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, > need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. > You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not > difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main > source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. > > Any other questions are welcomed. > > Sincerely, > Tim Martin > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Talks question > > > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I > can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I > choose > it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, > email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for > me! > > The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything > and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I
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Hay, on the topic of Talks and mobile speak, does anyone know if the Talks program will ever work with the e71 calendar? Naomi - Original Message - From: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Talks question I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer your license for free like you can with the normal version. Just check and know what you are getting into. Christopher Chaltain wrote: Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question > Good morning List, > > Here is the promised information. > > A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully > accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained > the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech > program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the > Moto phone was the only one they offered that w
Re: Talks question
Hehhehhehhe! Hopefully in the next release! - Original Message - From: "naomi" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:02 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hay, on the topic of Talks and mobile speak, does anyone know if the Talks program will ever work with the e71 calendar? Naomi - Original Message - From: To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Talks question >I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible > that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer > your license for free like you can with the normal version. Just check > and know what you are getting into. > > Christopher Chaltain wrote: > >> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working >> version? >> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the >> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. >> >> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows >> Mobile >> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian >> and >> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when >> talking >> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows >> Mobile >> version. >> >> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything >> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think >> that's >> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I >> suspect >> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or >> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of >> the screen reader is being sold. >> >> -- >> Christopher >> chalt...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: RE: Talks question >> >> Hi Lauren, >> >> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for >> most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably >> why they get away with selling it for the price they do. >> >> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but >> it >> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. >> >> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the >> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford >> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase >> Mobile >> Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to >> other >> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another >> phone. Of course, you can only run the software on >> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. >> >> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to >> purchase, >> which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I >> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They >> do >> charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you >> can't get the money at once. >> >> You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do >> however, >> need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. >> You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not >> difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main >> source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. >> >> Any other questions are welcomed. >> >> Sincerely, >> Tim Martin >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Talks question >> >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I >> can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I >> choose >> it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, >> email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be
Re: Talks question
Does the same apply to AT&T(cingular)? - Original Message - From: "Frank Ventura" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:55 Subject: RE: Talks question If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another ph
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Is the Ozone a SmartPhone or a Windows Mobile phone? By that I mean which Mobile Speak screen reader works with it? Also, am I correct that the Ozone does not have a standard keypad at all but only a qwerty keyboard? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Frank Ventura" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: RE: Talks question If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I
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Heh. That's nothing. In Canada talks (sim version) is like 520 bucks, whereas its about 395 for people in the US. I'm fairly mad about that, actually. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Gary, Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind people are rich! Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Gary King" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Lauren, From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text messaging, email and Internet. However, if you look at the answer to question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost. This makes me think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be transferred to another phone later. Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new phone when a better one comes along. If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry to be released by Humanware. They say it will be released soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price. They say it will support all of the core Blackberry applications. This is the only Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web site. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure
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Hi there, It is a Windows Mobile phone. Yes it has a querty keyboard and the buttons are a bit small. This might present a small problem for folks with bigger fingers, but one can get use to it. Hope this helps. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:13 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Is the Ozone a SmartPhone or a Windows Mobile phone? By that I mean which Mobile Speak screen reader works with it? Also, am I correct that the Ozone does not have a standard keypad at all but only a qwerty keyboard? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Frank Ventura" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM Subject: RE: Talks question > If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put > Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Talks question > > I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the > Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through > menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not > mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot > surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me > to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which > apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get > reception. > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Chaltain" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM > Subject: RE: Talks question > > >> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working >> version? >> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for > the >> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. >> >> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows >> Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the >> Symbian > and >> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when >> talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus >> Windows Mobile version. >> >> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with > anything >> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think > that's >> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I >> suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance >> and Verizon > or >> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down >> version > of >> the screen reader is being sold. >> >> -- >> Christopher >> chalt...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: RE: Talks question >> >> Hi Lauren, >> >> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work > for >> most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is > probably >> why they get away with selling it for the price they do. >> >> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, > but >> it >> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. >> >> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on > the >> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can > afford >> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase > Mobile >> Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to > other >> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get > another >> phone. Of course, you can only run the software on >> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. >> >> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to > purchase, >> which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I >> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. > They >> do >> charge a small fee for this, but it m
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Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question > Good morning List, > > Here is the promised information. > > A few months ago I started hearing talk of a
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Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my
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Hi Keith, I'm sure that is the case. I hope Verizon will release phones with more power then they do. I know with them it is all about money. Have a great weekend. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Keith Gillard Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing
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I'm not sure what you mean. You could purchase a phone from AT&T, and assuming it was supported by Talks or Mobile Speak, you could purchase them separately and install them on the phone. You could also purchase an unlocked phone from someone other than AT&T and also put Talks or Mobile Speak on it. Assuming it was a GSM phone that supported the frequencies used by AT&T you could then move your sim card into that phone and use it with the AT&T service. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Kathye and Gene To: PC Audio Discussion List Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:44 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Does the same apply to AT&T(cingular)? - Original Message - From: "Frank Ventura" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:55 Subject: RE: Talks question > If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put > Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible. > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Talks question > > I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the > Ozone > only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but > not > the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like > Gary > said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks > version > for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, > I > would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but > alas, > Verizon enables me to get reception. > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Chaltain" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM > Subject: RE: Talks question > > >> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working >> version? >> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for > the >> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. >> >> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows >> Mobile >> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian > and >> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when >> talking >> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows >> Mobile >> version. >> >> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with > anything >> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think > that's >> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I >> suspect >> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon > or >> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version > of >> the screen reader is being sold. >> >> -- >> Christopher >> chalt...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: RE: Talks question >> >> Hi Lauren, >> >> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work > for >> most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is > probably >> why they get away with selling it for the price they do. >> >> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, > but >> it >> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. >> >> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on > the >> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can > afford >> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase > Mobile >> Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to > other >> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get > another >> phone. Of course, you can only run the software on >> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. >> &g
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I've generally heard that talks outperforms mobile speak on any simbion phone. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but
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- Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi they think all blind people are stupid enough to pay it and thats the bottom line. Hi Gary, Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind people are rich! Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Gary King" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Lauren, From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text messaging, email and Internet. However, if you look at the answer to question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost. This makes me think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be transferred to another phone later. Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new phone when a better one comes along. If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry to be released by Humanware. They say it will be released soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price. They say it will support all of the core Blackberry applications. This is the only Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web site. Gary King w4...@bellsouth.net - Original Message - From: "Lauren" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for me! The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because of my disability. Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link. Sincerely, Lauren - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Good morning List, Here is the promised information. A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of course I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't happen. I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone was not the fully functioning version of the program. I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It works with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I was able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new phone. Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't
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Off topic, I know, but can anyone tell me where to get the tbi driver that will make a braille display work with a Nokia N82 phone running talks? My Humanware manual says it's on their site, but it does not seem to be and then Humanware tech support says it's on the Talks site, which also seems to elude me. I'd appreciate greatly any help someone wanted to offer. Kristeen Hughes khu...@insightbb.com - Original Message - From: "Keith Gillard" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Re: Talks question Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95. Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit. - Original Message - From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Chris, You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may be how each software package was written, and the platform they are written for. I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the $89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to other devices. Have a good day. Tim -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Talks question Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version? What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version. Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile version. I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold. -- Christopher chalt...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: Talks question Hi Lauren, I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do. Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have. You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple. Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you can't get the money at once. You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live. You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it. Any other questions are welcomed. Sincerely, Tim Martin -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Talks question Hi Tim, Thanks for the info. Veriz