Talks question

[Lauren]

Hi, 

I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks 
allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have it 
saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu options 
on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? 

Thanks. 


Sincerely,

Lauren 
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Re: Talks question

[Keith Gillard]

Hi,

It depends on the version of talks.

if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited 
capability.

Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap 
and 3g.

Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with 
talks installed.
it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which will 
definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its 
inception upon version 3 of talks.

hth.
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To: "pc audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: Talks question


Hi,

I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks 
allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have 
it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu 
options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?

Thanks.


Sincerely,

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RE: Talks question

[Chris Chamberlin]

We're located in Canada and Verizon is not 1 of our cell providers.
 

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Hi, 

I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will Talks
allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only have
it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu
options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo? 

Thanks. 


Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Talks question

[Lauren]

Should I buy and download Talks software myself then; can I get version 3 
then or can I upgrade the Talks if they preinstall it?




Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Gillard" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Hi,

It depends on the version of talks.

if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited
capability.

Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap
and 3g.

Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with
talks installed.
it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which 
will

definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its
inception upon version 3 of talks.

hth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "pc audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: Talks question


Hi,

I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will 
Talks
allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only 
have

it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu
options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?

Thanks.


Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Talks question

[Lauren]

Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap?


Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Keith Gillard" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Hi,

It depends on the version of talks.

if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited
capability.

Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap
and 3g.

Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with
talks installed.
it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which 
will

definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its
inception upon version 3 of talks.

hth.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "pc audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: Talks question


Hi,

I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will 
Talks
allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only 
have

it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu
options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?

Thanks.


Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Talks question

[Keith Gillard]

Lorne,

Perhaps you could get us some specs of this Ozone phone thus we can take a 
closer look.  I don't want to steer you the wrong way here so find out whats 
up with this phone.

Yes You should be able to upgrade your license but again, lets get it right 
the first time so go find out more about this phone and what is going to be 
on it.
KG

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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question


Should I buy and download Talks software myself then; can I get version 3
then or can I upgrade the Talks if they preinstall it?



Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Gillard" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question


> Hi,
>
> It depends on the version of talks.
>
> if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited
> capability.
>
> Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap
> and 3g.
>
> Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with
> talks installed.
> it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which
> will
> definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its
> inception upon version 3 of talks.
>
> hth.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lauren" 
> To: "pc audio" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
> Subject: Talks question
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will
> Talks
> allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only
> have
> it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu
> options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lauren
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Re: Talks question

[Keith Gillard]

Wap is web browsing that is optemised for cell phones.  it's limited by it's 
capabilities where as 3G gives you a full Pc like browsing and hi speed data 
rates for things like downloads, streaming and the like.


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From: "Lauren" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question


Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap?


Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Keith Gillard" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question


> Hi,
>
> It depends on the version of talks.
>
> if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited
> capability.
>
> Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap
> and 3g.
>
> Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with
> talks installed.
> it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 which
> will
> definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its
> inception upon version 3 of talks.
>
> hth.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Lauren" 
> To: "pc audio" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
> Subject: Talks question
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will
> Talks
> allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they only
> have
> it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu
> options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lauren
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Re: Talks question

[Gary King]

Lauren,
Talks for Verizon Wireless is for phones running on the Windows Mobile 
platform.  To get answers to your questions about it, go to


http://support.vzw.com/faqs/Features%20and%20Optional%20Services/talks.html

On the resulting page, go down to the heading titled: Answers to FAQs

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net

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From: "Lauren" 

To: "pc audio" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:31 PM
Subject: Talks question



Hi,

I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. Will 
Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they 
only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me 
all the menu options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?


Thanks.


Sincerely,

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Re: Talks question

[covici]

OK, is there any version of talks which will work on a cdma phone of any
sort such as windows mobile?

Lauren  wrote:

> Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Lauren
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Keith Gillard" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Talks question
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > It depends on the version of talks.
> >
> > if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some limited
> > capability.
> >
> > Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet both wap
> > and 3g.
> >
> > Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone with
> > talks installed.
> > it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5
> > which will
> > definately cause you to have limited access since web browseing began its
> > inception upon version 3 of talks.
> >
> > hth.
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Lauren" 
> > To: "pc audio" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
> > Subject: Talks question
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data
> > phone. Will Talks
> > allow me to do the email and internet? According to Verizon, they
> > only have
> > it saying that Talks works for for emails. Will it read to me all the menu
> > options on the phone or is it limited like Vlingo?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Lauren
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RE: Talks question

[Martin, Tim A., NMDOT]

Hi List,

I have quite a bit of information regarding Talks and Verizon phones.

I'll post tomorrow, my ride is waiting for me and I don't have enough
time to go in to detail.

Until tomorrow,
Tim Martin 

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Subject: Re: Talks question

OK, is there any version of talks which will work on a cdma phone of any
sort such as windows mobile?

Lauren  wrote:

> Please explain 3G and what you mean by wap?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Lauren
> - Original Message -
> From: "Keith Gillard" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Talks question
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > It depends on the version of talks.
> >
> > if the ozone is a series two handset then you might have some 
> > limited capability.
> >
> > Having said this talks does allow for email, texting and internet 
> > both wap and 3g.
> >
> > Are you buying talks for the phone or are they selling you the ozone

> > with talks installed.
> > it the latter, then it's likey that their version of talks is 2.5 
> > which will definately cause you to have limited access since web 
> > browseing began its inception upon version 3 of talks.
> >
> > hth.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lauren" 
> > To: "pc audio" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:31 PM
> > Subject: Talks question
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am told that Talks will work on a HTC Ozone Verizon data phone. 
> > Will Talks allow me to do the email and internet? According to 
> > Verizon, they only have it saying that Talks works for for emails. 
> > Will it read to me all the menu options on the phone or is it 
> > limited like Vlingo?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Lauren
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RE: Talks question

[Martin, Tim A., NMDOT]

Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm
or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few
issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all
the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I was
able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.

Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
smart phones and with as many carriers.

I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon
that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data
package with your current plan.  A Data package gives you access to the
Internet and E-mail from your phone.  This is not meant for everyone,
but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a
Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need.

If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this list
or contact me off list at:

tim.mar...@state.nm.us

Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks
software.

http://www.codefactory.es

To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program,
also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks:

http://www.handytech.us/demos.html

Hope all this helps.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin


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Re: Talks question

[Lauren]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I 
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose 
it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus, 
email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for 
me!


The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything 
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a 
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I 
need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because 
of my disability.


Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm
or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few
issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all
the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I was
able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.

Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
smart phones and with as many carriers.

I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon
that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data
package with your current plan.  A Data package gives you access to the
Internet and E-mail from your phone.  This is not meant for everyone,
but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a
Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need.

If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this list
or contact me off list at:

tim.mar...@state.nm.us

Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks
software.

http://www.codefactory.es

To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program,
also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks:

http://www.handytech.us/demos.html

Hope all this helps.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin


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RE: Talks question

[Martin, Tim A., NMDOT]

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

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To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would
really be great for me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone
without any penalty because of my disability.

Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message -
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> Good morning List,
>
> Here is the promised information.
>
> A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
fully
> accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
> the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
> program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
> Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of
course
> I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
> it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
> compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an
alarm
> or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
> happen.
>
> I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a
few
> issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the
Talks
> program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of
all
> the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types
of
> phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
> discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
> was not the fully functioning version of the program.
>
> I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
> hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
> on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It
works
> with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I
was
> able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
> Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
> offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
> different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
> Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
> phone.
>
> Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
> Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
> smart phones and with as many carriers.
>
> I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone f

Re: Talks question

[Gary King]

Lauren,
From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted 
online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows 
Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text 
messaging, email and Internet.  However, if you look at the answer to 
question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the 
word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost.  This makes me think 
that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot be 
transferred to another phone later.


Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a new 
phone when a better one comes along.


If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for Blackberry 
to be released by Humanware.  They say it will be released soon, but they 
don't say when, and they don't give a price.  They say it will support all 
of the core Blackberry applications.  This is the only Blackberry model they 
mention specifically in the information on their web site.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question




Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I 
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing 
menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be 
great for me!


The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything 
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a 
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what 
I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty 
because of my disability.


Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm
or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few
issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all
the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I was
able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.

Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
smart phones and with as many carriers.

I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon
that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data
package with your current plan.  A Data package gives you access to the
Internet and E-mail from your phone.  This is not meant for everyone,
but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a
Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need.

If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this list
or contact me off list at:

tim.mar...@state.nm.us

Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks
software.

http://www.codefactory.es

To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program,
also a place to purchase once you've used the

RE: Talks question

[Christopher Chaltain]

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile
and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and
now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking
about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile
version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything
selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's
the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect
the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or
AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of
the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com

 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is probably
why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it
does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the
Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can afford
it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile
Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other
Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another
phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase,
which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.  They do
charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you
can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do however,
need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose
it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus,
email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for
me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I
need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because
of my disability.

Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message -
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> Good morning List,
>
> Here is the promised information.
>
> A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
fully
> accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained 
> the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech 
> program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the 
> Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of
course
> I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all 
> it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and 
> compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an
alarm
> or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't 
> happen.
>
> I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a
few
> issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the
Talks
> program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use 

Re: Talks question

[covici]

I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible
that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer
your license for free like you can with the normal version.  Just check
and know what you are getting into.

Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version?
> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
> 
> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile
> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and
> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking
> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile
> version.
> 
> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything
> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's
> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect
> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or
> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of
> the screen reader is being sold.
> 
> --
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com
> 
>  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Talks question
> 
> Hi Lauren,
> 
> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
> most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is probably
> why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
> 
> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it
> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
> 
> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the
> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can afford
> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile
> Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other
> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another
> phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.
> 
> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase,
> which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.  They do
> charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you
> can't get the money at once.
> 
> You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do however,
> need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
> You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
> difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
> source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.
> 
> Any other questions are welcomed.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Tim Martin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Talks question
> 
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
> can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose
> it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus,
> email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for
> me!
> 
> The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything
> and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a
> Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I
> need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because
> of my disability.
> 
> Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Lauren
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
> Subject: RE: Talks question
> 
> 
> > Good morning List,
> >
> > Here is the promised information.
> >
> > A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
> fully
> > accessible to blind people.  This phone was from

Re: Talks question

[Lauren]

Hi Gary,

Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because 
according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for a 
Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too 
prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind 
people are rich!


Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice.


Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary King" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Lauren,

From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted
online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows 
Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text 
messaging, email and Internet.  However, if you look at the answer to 
question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear the 
word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost.  This makes me think 
that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and cannot 
be transferred to another phone later.


Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a 
new phone when a better one comes along.


If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for 
Blackberry to be released by Humanware.  They say it will be released 
soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price.  They say it 
will support all of the core Blackberry applications.  This is the only 
Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their web 
site.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question




Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I 
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing 
menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be 
great for me!


The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything 
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a 
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access 
what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any 
penalty because of my disability.


Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an alarm
or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a few
issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of all
the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I was
able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.

Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
smart phones and with as many carriers.

I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from Verizon
that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a Data
package with your current plan.  A Data package gives you acc

Re: Talks question

[Lauren]

I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone 
only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not 
the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary 
said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version 
for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, I 
would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, 
Verizon enables me to get reception.


Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
version?

What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
Mobile

and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and
now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
talking
about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
Mobile

version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything
selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's
the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
suspect

the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or
AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of
the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is probably
why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but 
it

does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the
Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can afford
it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile
Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other
Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another
phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase,
which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.  They 
do

charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you
can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do however,
need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose

it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus,
email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for
me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what 
I
need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty 
because

of my disability.

Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message -
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was

fully

accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cos

RE: Talks question

[Frank Ventura]

If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put
Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the
Ozone 
only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but
not 
the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like
Gary 
said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks
version 
for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am,
I 
would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but
alas, 
Verizon enables me to get reception.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
> version?
> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for
the
> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
>
> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
> Mobile
> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian
and
> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
> talking
> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
> Mobile
> version.
>
> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything
> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think
that's
> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
> suspect
> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon
or
> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version
of
> the screen reader is being sold.
>
> --
> Christopher
> chalt...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Talks question
>
> Hi Lauren,
>
> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work
for
> most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably
> why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
>
> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,
but 
> it
> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
>
> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the
> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford
> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase
Mobile
> Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to
other
> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get
another
> phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.
>
> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase,
> which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.
They 
> do
> charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if
you
> can't get the money at once.
>
> You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however,
> need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
> You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is
not
> difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
> source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need
it.
>
> Any other questions are welcomed.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tim Martin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Talks question
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but
I
> can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
> choose
> it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing
menus,
> email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great
for
> me!
>
> The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything
> and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I 

Re: Talks question

[naomi]

Hay, on the topic of Talks and mobile speak, does anyone know if the Talks 
program will ever work with the e71 calendar?


Naomi
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible
that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer
your license for free like you can with the normal version.  Just check
and know what you are getting into.

Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
version?

What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
Mobile
and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian 
and
now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
talking
about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
Mobile

version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything
selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think 
that's
the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
suspect

the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or
AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of
the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is probably
why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but 
it

does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the
Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can afford
it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase 
Mobile
Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to 
other

Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another
phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to 
purchase,

which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.  They 
do

charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you
can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do 
however,

need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose

it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus,
email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great 
for

me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access 
what I
need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty 
because

of my disability.

Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message -
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> Good morning List,
>
> Here is the promised information.
>
> A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
fully
> accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
> the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
> program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
> Moto phone was the only one they offered that w

Re: Talks question

[Keith Gillard]

Hehhehhehhe!

Hopefully in the next release!
- Original Message - 
From: "naomi" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hay, on the topic of Talks and mobile speak, does anyone know if the Talks
program will ever work with the e71 calendar?

Naomi
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question


>I would watch out for the cheap talks or msp -- it is quite possible
> that you can never upgrade the product, or in the case of msp, transfer
> your license for free like you can with the normal version.  Just check
> and know what you are getting into.
>
> Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>
>> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
>> version?
>> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
>> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
>>
>> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
>> Mobile
>> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian
>> and
>> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when
>> talking
>> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows
>> Mobile
>> version.
>>
>> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything
>> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think
>> that's
>> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I
>> suspect
>> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or
>> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of
>> the screen reader is being sold.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher
>> chalt...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: Talks question
>>
>> Hi Lauren,
>>
>> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
>> most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is probably
>> why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
>>
>> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
>> it
>> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
>>
>> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the
>> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can afford
>> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase
>> Mobile
>> Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to
>> other
>> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another
>> phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
>> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.
>>
>> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
>> purchase,
>> which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
>> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.  They
>> do
>> charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you
>> can't get the money at once.
>>
>> You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
>> however,
>> need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
>> You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
>> difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
>> source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.
>>
>> Any other questions are welcomed.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Tim Martin
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Talks question
>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
>> can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
>> choose
>> it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus,
>> email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be

Re: Talks question

[Kathye and Gene]

Does the same apply to AT&T(cingular)?
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ventura" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:55
Subject: RE: Talks question



If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put
Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the
Ozone 
only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but
not 
the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like
Gary 
said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks
version 
for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am,
I 
would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but
alas, 
Verizon enables me to get reception.


Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
version?

What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for

the

Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
Mobile

and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian

and
now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
talking
about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
Mobile

version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with

anything

selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think

that's
the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
suspect

the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon

or

AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version

of

the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work

for

most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is

probably

why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,
but 

it
does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on

the

Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can

afford

it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase

Mobile

Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to

other

Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get

another

phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to

purchase,

which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.
They 

do
charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if

you

can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do

however,

need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is

not

difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need

it.


Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but

I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose

it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing

menus,

email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great

for

me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do

everything

and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying

a

Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access
what 

I
need. Verizon will let me trade to another ph

Re: Talks question

[Jamie Pauls]

Is the Ozone a SmartPhone or a Windows Mobile phone? By that I mean which 
Mobile Speak screen reader works with it? Also, am I correct that the Ozone 
does not have a standard keypad at all but only a qwerty keyboard? Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ventura" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put
Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the
Ozone
only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but
not
the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like
Gary
said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks
version
for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am,
I
would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but
alas,
Verizon enables me to get reception.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 

To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for

the

Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile
and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian

and

now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when
talking
about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows
Mobile
version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with

anything

selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think

that's

the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I
suspect
the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon

or

AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version

of

the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org

[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work

for

most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is

probably

why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,

but

it
does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on

the

Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can

afford

it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase

Mobile

Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to

other

Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get

another

phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to

purchase,

which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.

They

do
charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if

you

can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do

however,

need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is

not

difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need

it.


Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but

I

can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose
it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing

menus,

email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great

for

me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do

everything

and would it work on a Blackbury? I 

Re: Talks question

[Constantine]

Heh. That's nothing. In Canada talks (sim version) is like 520 bucks, 
whereas its about 395 for people in the US. I'm fairly mad about that, 
actually.




contact details:

email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca

and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
skype: the_conman283

system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 
100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Hi Gary,

Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because 
according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for 
a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too 
prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind 
people are rich!


Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice.


Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Gary King" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Lauren,

From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted
online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows 
Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text 
messaging, email and Internet.  However, if you look at the answer to 
question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear 
the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost.  This makes me 
think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and 
cannot be transferred to another phone later.


Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a 
new phone when a better one comes along.


If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for 
Blackberry to be released by Humanware.  They say it will be released 
soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price.  They say it 
will support all of the core Blackberry applications.  This is the only 
Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their 
web site.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question




Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I 
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like 
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would 
really be great for me!


The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do 
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake 
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let 
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone 
without any penalty because of my disability.


Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an 
alarm

or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a 
few

issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of 
all

the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It 
works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I 
was

able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure

RE: Talks question

[Martin, Tim A., NMDOT]

Hi there,

It is a Windows Mobile phone.  Yes it has a querty keyboard and the
buttons are a bit small.  This might present a small problem for folks
with bigger fingers, but one can get use to it.

Hope this helps.

Tim 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:13 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

Is the Ozone a SmartPhone or a Windows Mobile phone? By that I mean
which Mobile Speak screen reader works with it? Also, am I correct that
the Ozone does not have a standard keypad at all but only a qwerty
keyboard? Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Ventura" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:55 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put 
> Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Talks question
>
> I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the 
> Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through 
> menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not 
> mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot 
> surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me

> to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which 
> apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get 
> reception.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lauren
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Talks question
>
>
>> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
>> version?
>> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for
> the
>> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
>>
>> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
>> Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the

>> Symbian
> and
>> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
>> talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus 
>> Windows Mobile version.
>>
>> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
> anything
>> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think
> that's
>> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
>> suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance 
>> and Verizon
> or
>> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down 
>> version
> of
>> the screen reader is being sold.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher
>> chalt...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: Talks question
>>
>> Hi Lauren,
>>
>> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work
> for
>> most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
> probably
>> why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
>>
>> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,
> but
>> it
>> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
>>
>> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
> the
>> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
> afford
>> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase
> Mobile
>> Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to
> other
>> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get
> another
>> phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
>> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite
simple.
>>
>> Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
> purchase,
>> which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I 
>> purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan.
> They
>> do
>> charge a small fee for this, but it m

RE: Talks question

[Martin, Tim A., NMDOT]

Hi Chris,

You may have a point here.  I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish.  Also there didn't seem to be the same application access.  I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each.  And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.

I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned.  I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.

Have a good day.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com

 


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would
really be great for me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone
without any penalty because of my disability.

Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
- Original Message -
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


> Good morning List,
>
> Here is the promised information.
>
> A few months ago I started hearing talk of a 

Re: Talks question

[Keith Gillard]

Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95.

Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect 
that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Hi Chris,

You may have a point here.  I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish.  Also there didn't seem to be the same application access.  I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each.  And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.

I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned.  I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.

Have a good day.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would
really be great for me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone
without any penalty because of my 

RE: Talks question

[Martin, Tim A., NMDOT]

Hi Keith,

I'm sure that is the case.  I hope Verizon will release phones with more
power then they do.  I know with them it is all about money.

Have a great weekend.

Tim 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Keith Gillard
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question

Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and
N95.

Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i
suspect that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone
unit.

- Original Message -
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Hi Chris,

You may have a point here.  I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish.  Also there didn't seem to be the same application access.  I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each.  And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.

I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned.  I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.

Have a good day.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like
accessing

Re: Talks question

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure what you mean. You could purchase a phone from AT&T, and assuming 
it was supported by Talks or Mobile Speak, you could purchase them separately 
and install them on the phone. You could also purchase an unlocked phone from 
someone other than AT&T and also put Talks or Mobile Speak on it. Assuming it 
was a GSM phone that supported the frequencies used by AT&T
you could then move your sim card into that phone and use it with the AT&T 
service.


--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Kathye and Gene 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:44 AM
  Subject: Re: Talks question


  Does the same apply to AT&T(cingular)?
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Frank Ventura" 
  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
  Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:55
  Subject: RE: Talks question


  > If you like Verizon and the Ozone, you can buy the Ozone and put
  > Mobilespeak on it and it will be fully accessible.
  > 
  > -Original Message-
  > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
  > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
  > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:52 AM
  > To: PC Audio Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: Talks question
  > 
  > I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the
  > Ozone 
  > only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but
  > not 
  > the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like
  > Gary 
  > said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks
  > version 
  > for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am,
  > I 
  > would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but
  > alas, 
  > Verizon enables me to get reception.
  > 
  > Sincerely,
  > 
  > Lauren
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
  > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
  > Subject: RE: Talks question
  > 
  > 
  >> Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working 
  >> version?
  >> What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for
  > the
  >> Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
  >>
  >> Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows 
  >> Mobile
  >> and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian
  > and
  >> now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when 
  >> talking
  >> about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows 
  >> Mobile
  >> version.
  >>
  >> I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
  > anything
  >> selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think
  > that's
  >> the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I 
  >> suspect
  >> the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon
  > or
  >> AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version
  > of
  >> the screen reader is being sold.
  >>
  >> --
  >> Christopher
  >> chalt...@gmail.com
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> -Original Message-
  >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
  > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
  >> On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
  >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
  >> To: PC Audio Discussion List
  >> Subject: RE: Talks question
  >>
  >> Hi Lauren,
  >>
  >> I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work
  > for
  >> most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
  > probably
  >> why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
  >>
  >> Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones,
  > but 
  >> it
  >> does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
  >>
  >> You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
  > the
  >> Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
  > afford
  >> it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase
  > Mobile
  >> Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to
  > other
  >> Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get
  > another
  >> phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
  >> 1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.
  >>
  &g

Re: Talks question

[Constantine]

I've generally heard that talks outperforms mobile speak on any simbion 
phone.




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- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Gillard" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95.

Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect
that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Hi Chris,

You may have a point here.  I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish.  Also there didn't seem to be the same application access.  I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each.  And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.

I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned.  I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.

Have a good day.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but

Re: Talks question

[Saqib]

- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question
Hi they think all blind people are stupid enough to pay it and thats the 
bottom line.



Hi Gary,

Thanks for the info; I think I will purchase the Mobile Speaks because 
according to Humanware, the Orator will cost $450 and to pay that just for 
a Blackbury device, and not one that will work with other phones, is too 
prohibitive for me. I couldn't believe the cost; they must think all blind 
people are rich!


Thank you for your and others' invaluable advice.


Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Gary King" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Lauren,

From reading through the text version of the manual that Verizon posted
online, it seems to be a fully functional version of Talks for Windows 
Mobile, and it would probably do everything you want, including text 
messaging, email and Internet.  However, if you look at the answer to 
question 3 on the Answers page that I sent the link for, you will hear 
the word "nontransferable" in the answer about the cost.  This makes me 
think that the $99 price is just for a Talks license for this phone and 
cannot be transferred to another phone later.


Mobile Speaks has a higher initial cost, but it can be transferred to a 
new phone when a better one comes along.


If you have the Blackberry Tour 9630, you can wait for Orator for 
Blackberry to be released by Humanware.  They say it will be released 
soon, but they don't say when, and they don't give a price.  They say it 
will support all of the core Blackberry applications.  This is the only 
Blackberry model they mention specifically in the information on their 
web site.


Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Lauren" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Talks question




Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I 
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I 
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like 
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would 
really be great for me!


The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do 
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake 
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let 
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone 
without any penalty because of my disability.


Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question



Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an 
alarm

or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a 
few

issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of 
all

the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It 
works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I 
was

able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.

Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't 

Re: Talks question

[Kristeen Hughes]

Off topic, I know, but can anyone tell me where to get the tbi driver that 
will make a braille display work with a Nokia N82 phone running talks? My 
Humanware manual says it's on their site, but it does not seem to be and 
then Humanware tech support says it's on the Talks site, which also seems to 
elude me.


I'd appreciate greatly any help someone wanted to offer.

Kristeen Hughes
khu...@insightbb.com
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From: "Keith Gillard" 

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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Talks question



Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95.

Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect
that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" 

To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Hi Chris,

You may have a point here.  I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish.  Also there didn't seem to be the same application access.  I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each.  And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.

I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned.  I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.

Have a good day.

Tim

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question

Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan.  They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Veriz