Re: Digital Jukebox

2013-06-11 Thread Aidan Maher
Hi, the best thing maybe is to download the laim encoder and use it in
a program like goldwave or total recorder and then convert those files
to the spex of the laim encoder as that should work with that program.
MarvelSoft is not very good with their design and to keep pushing out
better updates. Laim is one of the best encoders. You can get it from
www.codecs.com

On 11/06/2013, Peter Russillo plrussi...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hi list.  I'm using Windows Vista Home Premium on my machine and the program

 Digital Jukebox from Marvelsoft and found something strange:  I have several

 MP3 files I purchased from CD Baby.  These play just fine using Winamp or
 the media player on System Access Mobile network; however, when I use
 Digital Jukebox and try these same MP3 files I get an error message that
 goes something like:  There was a problem; failed to initialize MCI ...  I

 couldn't copy that error message to show you, but when I asked Marvelsoft
 about this, I was told some MP3 files use a different codec than others.
 (there are a lot of these kinds of files that work fine with Digital
 Jukebox.  What is this MCI business, and how can I find what codec an MP3
 file uses?  I'd like to be able to use Digital Jukebox with these files; is

 there a workaround to this?  Thanks for any help you can give me.

 Peter Russillo


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Digital Jukebox

2013-06-10 Thread Peter Russillo
Hi list.  I'm using Windows Vista Home Premium on my machine and the program 
Digital Jukebox from Marvelsoft and found something strange:  I have several 
MP3 files I purchased from CD Baby.  These play just fine using Winamp or 
the media player on System Access Mobile network; however, when I use 
Digital Jukebox and try these same MP3 files I get an error message that 
goes something like:  There was a problem; failed to initialize MCI ...  I 
couldn't copy that error message to show you, but when I asked Marvelsoft 
about this, I was told some MP3 files use a different codec than others. 
(there are a lot of these kinds of files that work fine with Digital 
Jukebox.  What is this MCI business, and how can I find what codec an MP3 
file uses?  I'd like to be able to use Digital Jukebox with these files; is 
there a workaround to this?  Thanks for any help you can give me.


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Re: digital Jukebox

2013-03-24 Thread Aidan Maher
Hi, I don't no of any podcast, but I had too of their packages and I
will never get anything from them again. They don't want to reset my
licens, so if you buy it, be aware you must have a good working pc
wich you will never format as you might struggle to get a new reset
again. Their stuff is generally easy to use, but it get far to little
updates and they never listen to their customers. I hate them rite
now. Goodluck.

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 Hi list.  I'm curious if anyone here uses Digital Jukebox from Marvelsoft;
 is it easy to use, and is there a podcast with a demo of the software?
 Thanks.

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digital Jukebox

2013-03-23 Thread Peter Russillo
Hi list.  I'm curious if anyone here uses Digital Jukebox from Marvelsoft; 
is it easy to use, and is there a podcast with a demo of the software? 
Thanks.


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Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox

2011-10-16 Thread Jim Ruby
I have read about this product in the archives of this list posted in 2009.
And I don't think I want to go this rout, but before I give up Is there any
updates to the product or could you suggest another software that would be
easier for some one with very little computer skills to use? She is blind
has don't have quite enough vision to read the screen, so self voicing or
working with window-eyes would be great.

Main use would be to listen to music and the ability to copy it to a mp3
player or burn cd.

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Review and Demonstration of Marvelsoft digital Jukebox

2009-03-06 Thread Steve Pattison
I don't own this product but you can listen to a demonstration and
review of the Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox recently discussed on this list
at http://www.accessible-devices.com/TalkingJukeBox.mp3.  I hope this
helps.

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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-06 Thread Gary Schindler
it sounds to me that they want you to make a playlist and play everything 
from different playlists from different directories. what would happen if 
you try to play an *.m3u or *pls file in the player.


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From: Tim Smith vip100...@yahoo.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


Larry:
You asked about having your music in several places. As far as I can tell 
you can only have one top level directory at a time. You have to go into 
optons if you want something on a different hard drive. This is one of my 
main problems with the product. I thought I could possibly trick it by 
putting in a shortcut to a differnt drive put the prouct does not display 
the shortcuts.


Someone else said the product is for the beginner. Well I m far from a 
beginner in using PC, but that does not mean I don't want something that is 
basic and simple. My problem with all the jukebox software I have seen is it 
has way to many bells and wistles for me to navigate through as a visually 
impaired user.


I have all my music arranged the way I want, all I need is a simple display 
of my music file and a abiity to easly select and play them. No graphic 
equalizer, no various ways to sort, no way to rate the songs, i.e. not 
microsoft mediaplayer. Mediamonkey is a bit better than MS product but still 
way to much stuff on the screen.


I found a open source that works great on my MP3 player but they (as far as 
I know) don't have a release that runs direct on a PC. It is the open source 
Rockbox project an is great for the MP3 player and it has some basic voice 
output to read directories but I do ot use that since it also has a way to 
customize the display for low vision users.


Oh and Larry on the topic of the annoying self proclaimed audio banner, yes 
I would like to remove it also. Perhaps if you call their help list they can 
help? I have not had much luck there. Finally, yes the help system in 
Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox is just useless.


Sorry don't know how much help I will be in using the Marvelsoft's Digital 
Jukebox I basically figureit is a waisted 50 bucks. I just plan on using the 
very basic in it to play my music. Everything else like ripping CDs I use 
Mediamonkey

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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-06 Thread Tim Smith
Larry:
  You asked about having your music in several places.  As far as I can tell 
you can only have one top level directory at a time.  You have to go into 
optons if you want something on a different hard drive.  This is one of my main 
problems with the product.  I thought I could possibly trick it by putting in a 
shortcut to a differnt drive put the prouct does not display the shortcuts.  

Someone else said the product is for the beginner.  Well I m far from a 
beginner in using PC, but that does not mean I don't want something that is 
basic and simple.  My problem with all the jukebox software I have seen is it 
has way to many bells and wistles for me to navigate through as a visually 
impaired user.

I have all my music arranged the way I want, all I need is a simple display of 
my music file and a abiity to easly select and play them.  No graphic 
equalizer, no various ways to sort, no way to rate the songs, i.e. not 
microsoft mediaplayer.   Mediamonkey is a bit better than MS product but still 
way to much stuff on the screen.

I found a open source that works great on my MP3 player but they (as far as I 
know) don't have a release that runs direct on a PC.  It is the open source 
Rockbox project an is great for the MP3 player and it has some basic voice 
output to read directories but I do ot use that since it also has a way to 
customize the display for low vision users.

Oh and Larry on the topic of the annoying self proclaimed audio banner, yes I 
would like to remove it also.  Perhaps if you call their help list they can 
help?  I have not had much luck there.  Finally, yes the help system in 
Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox is just useless.  

Sorry don't know how much help I will be in using the Marvelsoft's Digital 
Jukebox I basically figureit is a waisted 50 bucks.  I just plan on using the 
very basic in it to play my music.  Everything else like ripping CDs I use 
Mediamonkey
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Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Tim Smith
I saw a product mentioned on this list called Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox which 
is suppose to be a PC based talking jukebox designed for the blind and visually 
impaired.
 
I have had Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox for a week now and quite frankly my 
opinion is it is not ready for prime time. 

As a partial sighted user the Graphical User Interface (GUI) is extremely 
annoying. 

The GUI is implemented with a crippled windows display. All standard window 
decorations have been removed. No top window bar with iconify, resize, 
minimize, maximize, close. Which would not be a problem except for the window 
clips the content and there is no way to scroll. You have to go into the 
applications options and play with text and box sizes until you get it to fit 
in the fixed window. 

One navigates within the application primarily with the 4 directional keys 
which would be great except the display does not track the direction keys. If 
you key past the end of the window display the contents does not scroll up, you 
do hear what you can not see which is a help once you realize what it is doing. 
Also, the 4 direction arrows will not take you to some of the items on the 
screen. Most notable back is not reachable with the arrow keys, you either 
have to mouse over it and click or use the backspace key. Once you know this 
it is useable but why the arrow buttons dont just proceed to the back button 
as it does with ok and cancel and every thing else is not intuitive. 

It appears that this product, although marketed to the blind and visually 
impaired, is primarily intend for the totally blind. My problems started when I 
was looking for the licence key. The verbal directions say the key is on a 
yellow card in the box. I could not find the card in the box with the key. 
However, I called and was able to get the key over the phone. It turns out the 
key is on a Braille and raised text card taped to the outside of the box with 
no visible text printing at all. I thought it was just their logo on the box. 
Also, there is no label at all on the product CD so the first thing I did was 
print a label for it so it would not get lost.

If one is totally blind perhaps this product is more useful since one might not 
be use to the GUI standards supplied in most applications. But any user will 
find the setting of options annoying, since one constantly has to restart 
from the top of the option menu for each change. That is you can not step back 
in the menu tree once you start down a branch. 

Also one can not navigate in the standard way through My Computer. It is to 
complicated to say how you have to do it, lets just say you can not select My 
Computer and then the location you want. If your music is spread across 
multiple drives and you want to keep it that way it will get real annoying.

When I purchased the product I was told they did not have a demo version. Turns 
out the product will run in demo mode but they just will not give it to you 
until you buy it. I STRONGLY recommend one get the demo version first or don't 
buy it. The demo runs for 5 minutes at a time.

I sincerely wish I could recommend this product, since there is so little good 
inexpensive software designed for the blind and visually impaired. Marvelsoft's 
Digital Jukebox has great potential but it is not there yet, maybe when version 
2.0 comes some of the comments above will be addressed.


  
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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Gary Schindler
this is the first I have heard of this program. what advantage is this 
program supposed to have over something like Winamp?
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From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


As a blind purchaser of this software, I would have to agree with 
everything that you said Tim, at least to the extent of that which can be 
perceived by a totally blind user. First there's this annoying 
proclamation issued each time the program is launched which shouts at the 
user declaring itself to be the future of audio! Is this truly 
necessary? If this is the future, then I am not optomystic.


Since I spent money on this package, I have tried to get to know it a bit, 
but our relationship has been uneasy at best. It seems that the user is 
required to learn a different method of doing most of the tasks for which 
the software was designed. I had perceived it as giving voice to tasks 
that could be cumbersome in other applications. And while there is indeed 
voice, I find myself mystified as to how to perform tasks which I take for 
granted in other applications. Then there's the help feature which I 
really don't find to be all that helpful. For the most part, the user is 
on his or her own when trying to figure things out. And, since the 
developers have chosen alternative means for doing most everything, this 
is particularly annoying.


However, Tim, since you are also an owner of this program, perhaps you can 
help me out with the answers to a couple of questions. First, since my 
music is on multiple drives and in a variety of folders, just how does one 
move about between drives and folders? Secondly, when I try to ad given 
songs to a given play list, the software insists on creating a second play 
list with the first play list's name and dumping the songs in that second 
play list. So, how does one add to a play list?


One other interesting thing that I noticed... the program does include an 
element which allows the user to list radio stations and their urls, 
serving as a kind of self built radio station database. I've noticed that 
when adding a link, say from the Bill Sparks site, I have to add the link 
which Bill labels Listen live with your pda/smart phone or stand alone 
player., as the standard listen link will not work in this jukebox. I 
guess it is to be perceived as a standalone player.


My comments here represent only my views, but, like Tim, I would recommend 
that, before purchasing this product, you might want to get hold of a demo 
version in order to make sure that it meets your needs.


Larry

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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Larry
As a blind purchaser of this software, I would have to agree with everything 
that you said Tim, at least to the extent of that which can be perceived by 
a totally blind user. First there's this annoying proclamation issued each 
time the program is launched which shouts at the user declaring itself to be 
the future of audio! Is this truly necessary? If this is the future, then 
I am not optomystic.


Since I spent money on this package, I have tried to get to know it a bit, 
but our relationship has been uneasy at best. It seems that the user is 
required to learn a different method of doing most of the tasks for which 
the software was designed. I had perceived it as giving voice to tasks that 
could be cumbersome in other applications. And while there is indeed voice, 
I find myself mystified as to how to perform tasks which I take for granted 
in other applications. Then there's the help feature which I really don't 
find to be all that helpful. For the most part, the user is on his or her 
own when trying to figure things out. And, since the developers have chosen 
alternative means for doing most everything, this is particularly annoying.


However, Tim, since you are also an owner of this program, perhaps you can 
help me out with the answers to a couple of questions. First, since my music 
is on multiple drives and in a variety of folders, just how does one move 
about between drives and folders? Secondly, when I try to ad given songs to 
a given play list, the software insists on creating a second play list with 
the first play list's name and dumping the songs in that second play list. 
So, how does one add to a play list?


One other interesting thing that I noticed... the program does include an 
element which allows the user to list radio stations and their urls, serving 
as a kind of self built radio station database. I've noticed that when 
adding a link, say from the Bill Sparks site, I have to add the link which 
Bill labels Listen live with your pda/smart phone or stand alone player., 
as the standard listen link will not work in this jukebox. I guess it is to 
be perceived as a standalone player.


My comments here represent only my views, but, like Tim, I would recommend 
that, before purchasing this product, you might want to get hold of a demo 
version in order to make sure that it meets your needs.


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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Gary Schindler
I looked at the product and figure it isn't worth the $50.00 they want for 
what it is supposed to do.
go to http://www.marvelsoft.com and you will find all the software they 
sell.


- Original Message - 
From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


They are marketing it as a jukebox in which every single aspect of the
program is spoken. No libraries that only sort of work etc. The program can
also be used either with or without a screen reader as it comes equipped
with its own speech output. I was and am still hoping to use it to help in
more easily cataloging my CD collection which I am now in the process of
digitizing. It is said that the program will work well with all MP3 players
with the exception of the iPod.

Larry

Larry Naessens

Vinylguy Café
...a burn above the rest
At Vinylguy Café, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you
can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome
all of your enquiries by Skype or email. Before sending us your media,
please contact us for important shipping instructions.

Email: vinylguyc...@gmail.com
SkypeMe: Vinylguy45
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


this is the first I have heard of this program. what advantage is this 
program supposed to have over something like Winamp?
- Original Message - 
From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


As a blind purchaser of this software, I would have to agree with 
everything that you said Tim, at least to the extent of that which can be 
perceived by a totally blind user. First there's this annoying 
proclamation issued each time the program is launched which shouts at the 
user declaring itself to be the future of audio! Is this truly 
necessary? If this is the future, then I am not optomystic.


Since I spent money on this package, I have tried to get to know it a 
bit, but our relationship has been uneasy at best. It seems that the user 
is required to learn a different method of doing most of the tasks for 
which the software was designed. I had perceived it as giving voice to 
tasks that could be cumbersome in other applications. And while there is 
indeed voice, I find myself mystified as to how to perform tasks which I 
take for granted in other applications. Then there's the help feature 
which I really don't find to be all that helpful. For the most part, the 
user is on his or her own when trying to figure things out. And, since 
the developers have chosen alternative means for doing most everything, 
this is particularly annoying.


However, Tim, since you are also an owner of this program, perhaps you 
can help me out with the answers to a couple of questions. First, since 
my music is on multiple drives and in a variety of folders, just how does 
one move about between drives and folders? Secondly, when I try to ad 
given songs to a given play list, the software insists on creating a 
second play list with the first play list's name and dumping the songs in 
that second play list. So, how does one add to a play list?


One other interesting thing that I noticed... the program does include an 
element which allows the user to list radio stations and their urls, 
serving as a kind of self built radio station database. I've noticed that 
when adding a link, say from the Bill Sparks site, I have to add the link 
which Bill labels Listen live with your pda/smart phone or stand alone 
player., as the standard listen link will not work in this jukebox. I 
guess it is to be perceived as a standalone player.


My comments here represent only my views, but, like Tim, I would 
recommend that, before purchasing this product, you might want to get 
hold of a demo version in order to make sure that it meets your needs.


Larry

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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Larry
They are marketing it as a jukebox in which every single aspect of the 
program is spoken. No libraries that only sort of work etc. The program can 
also be used either with or without a screen reader as it comes equipped 
with its own speech output. I was and am still hoping to use it to help in 
more easily cataloging my CD collection which I am now in the process of 
digitizing. It is said that the program will work well with all MP3 players 
with the exception of the iPod.


Larry

Larry Naessens

Vinylguy Café
...a burn above the rest
At Vinylguy Café, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you 
can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome 
all of your enquiries by Skype or email. Before sending us your media, 
please contact us for important shipping instructions.


Email: vinylguyc...@gmail.com
SkypeMe: Vinylguy45
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


this is the first I have heard of this program. what advantage is this 
program supposed to have over something like Winamp?
- Original Message - 
From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


As a blind purchaser of this software, I would have to agree with 
everything that you said Tim, at least to the extent of that which can be 
perceived by a totally blind user. First there's this annoying 
proclamation issued each time the program is launched which shouts at the 
user declaring itself to be the future of audio! Is this truly 
necessary? If this is the future, then I am not optomystic.


Since I spent money on this package, I have tried to get to know it a 
bit, but our relationship has been uneasy at best. It seems that the user 
is required to learn a different method of doing most of the tasks for 
which the software was designed. I had perceived it as giving voice to 
tasks that could be cumbersome in other applications. And while there is 
indeed voice, I find myself mystified as to how to perform tasks which I 
take for granted in other applications. Then there's the help feature 
which I really don't find to be all that helpful. For the most part, the 
user is on his or her own when trying to figure things out. And, since 
the developers have chosen alternative means for doing most everything, 
this is particularly annoying.


However, Tim, since you are also an owner of this program, perhaps you 
can help me out with the answers to a couple of questions. First, since 
my music is on multiple drives and in a variety of folders, just how does 
one move about between drives and folders? Secondly, when I try to ad 
given songs to a given play list, the software insists on creating a 
second play list with the first play list's name and dumping the songs in 
that second play list. So, how does one add to a play list?


One other interesting thing that I noticed... the program does include an 
element which allows the user to list radio stations and their urls, 
serving as a kind of self built radio station database. I've noticed that 
when adding a link, say from the Bill Sparks site, I have to add the link 
which Bill labels Listen live with your pda/smart phone or stand alone 
player., as the standard listen link will not work in this jukebox. I 
guess it is to be perceived as a standalone player.


My comments here represent only my views, but, like Tim, I would 
recommend that, before purchasing this product, you might want to get 
hold of a demo version in order to make sure that it meets your needs.


Larry

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RE: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread David Edick
What is the URL for the product? Do you have any other contact info for
them?

Thanks,


/David 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

I saw a product mentioned on this list called Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox
which is suppose to be a PC based talking jukebox designed for the blind and
visually impaired.
 
I have had Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox for a week now and quite frankly my
opinion is it is not ready for prime time. 

As a partial sighted user the Graphical User Interface (GUI) is extremely
annoying. 

The GUI is implemented with a crippled windows display. All standard window
decorations have been removed. No top window bar with iconify, resize,
minimize, maximize, close. Which would not be a problem except for the
window clips the content and there is no way to scroll. You have to go into
the applications options and play with text and box sizes until you get it
to fit in the fixed window. 

One navigates within the application primarily with the 4 directional keys
which would be great except the display does not track the direction keys.
If you key past the end of the window display the contents does not scroll
up, you do hear what you can not see which is a help once you realize what
it is doing. Also, the 4 direction arrows will not take you to some of the
items on the screen. Most notable back is not reachable with the arrow
keys, you either have to mouse over it and click or use the backspace key.
Once you know this it is useable but why the arrow buttons dont just proceed
to the back button as it does with ok and cancel and every thing else
is not intuitive. 

It appears that this product, although marketed to the blind and visually
impaired, is primarily intend for the totally blind. My problems started
when I was looking for the licence key. The verbal directions say the key is
on a yellow card in the box. I could not find the card in the box with the
key. However, I called and was able to get the key over the phone. It turns
out the key is on a Braille and raised text card taped to the outside of
the box with no visible text printing at all. I thought it was just their
logo on the box. Also, there is no label at all on the product CD so the
first thing I did was print a label for it so it would not get lost.

If one is totally blind perhaps this product is more useful since one might
not be use to the GUI standards supplied in most applications. But any user
will find the setting of options annoying, since one constantly has to
restart from the top of the option menu for each change. That is you can not
step back in the menu tree once you start down a branch. 

Also one can not navigate in the standard way through My Computer. It is
to complicated to say how you have to do it, lets just say you can not
select My Computer and then the location you want. If your music is spread
across multiple drives and you want to keep it that way it will get real
annoying.

When I purchased the product I was told they did not have a demo version.
Turns out the product will run in demo mode but they just will not give it
to you until you buy it. I STRONGLY recommend one get the demo version first
or don't buy it. The demo runs for 5 minutes at a time.

I sincerely wish I could recommend this product, since there is so little
good inexpensive software designed for the blind and visually impaired.
Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox has great potential but it is not there yet,
maybe when version 2.0 comes some of the comments above will be addressed.


  
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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Rick Harmon
One thing most of you are missing here is that the product is basically 
meant for a person without a screen reader and is a beginner that only wants 
to be able to do the most simple of music tasks.  I doubt anyone on this 
list would be looking for such an item.

Rick

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From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


I looked at the product and figure it isn't worth the $50.00 they want for
what it is supposed to do.
 go to http://www.marvelsoft.com and you will find all the software they
sell.

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From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


They are marketing it as a jukebox in which every single aspect of the
program is spoken. No libraries that only sort of work etc. The program can
also be used either with or without a screen reader as it comes equipped
with its own speech output. I was and am still hoping to use it to help in
more easily cataloging my CD collection which I am now in the process of
digitizing. It is said that the program will work well with all MP3 players
with the exception of the iPod.

Larry

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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


 this is the first I have heard of this program. what advantage is this
 program supposed to have over something like Winamp?
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


 As a blind purchaser of this software, I would have to agree with
 everything that you said Tim, at least to the extent of that which can be
 perceived by a totally blind user. First there's this annoying
 proclamation issued each time the program is launched which shouts at the
 user declaring itself to be the future of audio! Is this truly
 necessary? If this is the future, then I am not optomystic.

 Since I spent money on this package, I have tried to get to know it a
 bit, but our relationship has been uneasy at best. It seems that the user
 is required to learn a different method of doing most of the tasks for
 which the software was designed. I had perceived it as giving voice to
 tasks that could be cumbersome in other applications. And while there is
 indeed voice, I find myself mystified as to how to perform tasks which I
 take for granted in other applications. Then there's the help feature
 which I really don't find to be all that helpful. For the most part, the
 user is on his or her own when trying to figure things out. And, since
 the developers have chosen alternative means for doing most everything,
 this is particularly annoying.

 However, Tim, since you are also an owner of this program, perhaps you
 can help me out with the answers to a couple of questions. First, since
 my music is on multiple drives and in a variety of folders, just how does
 one move about between drives and folders? Secondly, when I try to ad
 given songs to a given play list, the software insists on creating a
 second play list with the first play list's name and dumping the songs in
 that second play list. So, how does one add to a play list?

 One other interesting thing that I noticed... the program does include an
 element which allows the user to list radio stations and their urls,
 serving as a kind of self built radio station database. I've noticed that
 when adding a link, say from the Bill Sparks site, I have to add the link
 which Bill labels Listen live with your pda/smart phone or stand alone
 player., as the standard listen link will not work in this jukebox. I
 guess it is to be perceived as a standalone player.

 My comments here represent only my views, but, like Tim, I would
 recommend that, before purchasing this product, you might want to get
 hold of a demo version in order to make sure that it meets your needs.

 Larry

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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Larry

Just go to
http://www.marvelsoft.com

The program, along with their other software offerings, is clearly described 
there. The site also includes contact info.


I think the program does exactly what it claims to do. My challenge has been 
to understand the differing methods that the developers employed.


Larry


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- Original Message - 
From: David Edick mded...@yahoo.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time



What is the URL for the product? Do you have any other contact info for
them?

Thanks,


/David

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:52 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

I saw a product mentioned on this list called Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox
which is suppose to be a PC based talking jukebox designed for the blind 
and

visually impaired.

I have had Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox for a week now and quite frankly 
my

opinion is it is not ready for prime time.

As a partial sighted user the Graphical User Interface (GUI) is extremely
annoying.

The GUI is implemented with a crippled windows display. All standard 
window

decorations have been removed. No top window bar with iconify, resize,
minimize, maximize, close. Which would not be a problem except for the
window clips the content and there is no way to scroll. You have to go 
into
the applications options and play with text and box sizes until you get 
it

to fit in the fixed window.

One navigates within the application primarily with the 4 directional keys
which would be great except the display does not track the direction keys.
If you key past the end of the window display the contents does not scroll
up, you do hear what you can not see which is a help once you realize what
it is doing. Also, the 4 direction arrows will not take you to some of the
items on the screen. Most notable back is not reachable with the arrow
keys, you either have to mouse over it and click or use the backspace 
key.
Once you know this it is useable but why the arrow buttons dont just 
proceed
to the back button as it does with ok and cancel and every thing 
else

is not intuitive.

It appears that this product, although marketed to the blind and visually
impaired, is primarily intend for the totally blind. My problems started
when I was looking for the licence key. The verbal directions say the key 
is

on a yellow card in the box. I could not find the card in the box with the
key. However, I called and was able to get the key over the phone. It 
turns

out the key is on a Braille and raised text card taped to the outside of
the box with no visible text printing at all. I thought it was just their
logo on the box. Also, there is no label at all on the product CD so the
first thing I did was print a label for it so it would not get lost.

If one is totally blind perhaps this product is more useful since one 
might
not be use to the GUI standards supplied in most applications. But any 
user

will find the setting of options annoying, since one constantly has to
restart from the top of the option menu for each change. That is you can 
not

step back in the menu tree once you start down a branch.

Also one can not navigate in the standard way through My Computer. It is
to complicated to say how you have to do it, lets just say you can not
select My Computer and then the location you want. If your music is 
spread

across multiple drives and you want to keep it that way it will get real
annoying.

When I purchased the product I was told they did not have a demo version.
Turns out the product will run in demo mode but they just will not give it
to you until you buy it. I STRONGLY recommend one get the demo version 
first

or don't buy it. The demo runs for 5 minutes at a time.

I sincerely wish I could recommend this product, since there is so little
good inexpensive software designed for the blind and visually impaired.
Marvelsoft's Digital Jukebox has great potential but it is not there yet,
maybe when version 2.0 comes some of the comments above will be addressed.



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Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time

2009-03-05 Thread Larry
That is a very good point as well, and for the user who you have described 
here this software would be ideal. The software can be used either with the 
onboard speech or you can turn off the onboard speech and use it with a 
screen reader.


Larry
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Vinylguy Café
...a burn above the rest
At Vinylguy Café, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you 
can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome 
all of your enquiries by Skype or email. Before sending us your media, 
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon rickhar...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time



One thing most of you are missing here is that the product is basically
meant for a person without a screen reader and is a beginner that only 
wants

to be able to do the most simple of music tasks.  I doubt anyone on this
list would be looking for such an item.

Rick

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


I looked at the product and figure it isn't worth the $50.00 they want for
what it is supposed to do.
go to http://www.marvelsoft.com and you will find all the software they
sell.

- Original Message - 
From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time


They are marketing it as a jukebox in which every single aspect of the
program is spoken. No libraries that only sort of work etc. The program 
can

also be used either with or without a screen reader as it comes equipped
with its own speech output. I was and am still hoping to use it to help in
more easily cataloging my CD collection which I am now in the process of
digitizing. It is said that the program will work well with all MP3 
players

with the exception of the iPod.

Larry

Larry Naessens

Vinylguy Café
...a burn above the rest
At Vinylguy Café, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that 
you

can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome
all of your enquiries by Skype or email. Before sending us your media,
please contact us for important shipping instructions.

Email: vinylguyc...@gmail.com
SkypeMe: Vinylguy45
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time



this is the first I have heard of this program. what advantage is this
program supposed to have over something like Winamp?
- Original Message - 
From: Larry vinyl...@distributel.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Marvelsoft Digital Jukebox , Not ready for prime time



As a blind purchaser of this software, I would have to agree with
everything that you said Tim, at least to the extent of that which can 
be

perceived by a totally blind user. First there's this annoying
proclamation issued each time the program is launched which shouts at 
the

user declaring itself to be the future of audio! Is this truly
necessary? If this is the future, then I am not optomystic.

Since I spent money on this package, I have tried to get to know it a
bit, but our relationship has been uneasy at best. It seems that the 
user

is required to learn a different method of doing most of the tasks for
which the software was designed. I had perceived it as giving voice to
tasks that could be cumbersome in other applications. And while there is
indeed voice, I find myself mystified as to how to perform tasks which I
take for granted in other applications. Then there's the help feature
which I really don't find to be all that helpful. For the most part, the
user is on his or her own when trying to figure things out. And, since
the developers have chosen alternative means for doing most everything,
this is particularly annoying.

However, Tim, since you are also an owner of this program, perhaps you
can help me out with the answers to a couple of questions. First, since
my music is on multiple drives and in a variety of folders, just how 
does

one move about between drives and folders? Secondly, when I try to ad
given songs to a given play list, the software insists on creating a
second play list with the first play list's name and dumping the songs 
in

that second play list. So, how does one add to a play list?

One other interesting thing that I noticed... the program does include 
an

element which allows the user

Fwd: Accessible Digital Jukebox.

2008-10-08 Thread Steve Pattison
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi to the Gui-talk and Electronics-talk lists, Ken here think this maybe
will be of interest to both Lists.  Here is an Item from Marvel  soft. 
Hello
from all your friends at MarvelSoft - _www.MarvelSoft.com_

We just have a quick question for you - do you have a CD? Boy, what a 
silly
thing to ask ... everyone has a CD. Well, okay - how about a computer. 
Sorry,
that's another, uh, silly question - how else would you be reading  this
newsletter. All right then - you're set. You're ready to enter the 
digital  music
world.

Would you like to find and play a CD by doing nothing more than pressing 
a
few keys? How about reading the news each night, loading the latest 
Hockey  game
on your Mp3 player, or recording a few CD's with music to listen to 
while
you travel? No problem! You're in business! You're ready to roll.

But, you say, I haven't found any music management software that can be 
used
by blind computer users. Aha! But, we have. It's loaded with features, 
packed
with easy hotkeys, and entirely narated with human speech. It's brand 
new,
it's top of the line, and it's lightning fast. And best of all, it's 
cheap!
Have a seat - we'll tell you all about it.

Digital Jukebox
Manages Your Music, Loads Your MP3 Player and  More!

This powerful software package is so loaded with features, so fast and 
easy
to use, and just so fun besides - that it's difficult to know where to 
begin!
But in a nutshell, Digital Jukebox is an all-encompassing talking 
digital
audio management solution put out by MarvelSoft Corp. (the makers of 
such
highly-acclaimed
software packages as Talking Typing Teacher and Talking  Toolbox). Our
self-voicing, user-friendly software programs are used around the  world 
in homes,
businesses, schools, nonprofit training centers, and  government 
agencies by
blind and visually impaired students, professionals, and  computer users 
of
all ages and abilities. And now, at long last, we are  adding an 
exciting new
offering to our product line.

So what's all the fuss about? Plenty, to be sure! Digital Jukebox is a
powerful multimedia package that gives low-vision and totally-blind 
people full
control
over their music library. All from inside this single, intuitive,
fully-narrated program, you can play and organize audio CD's, copy music 
to and  from
your MP3 player, create playlists of your favorite tracks, sign up for 
and
download podcasts - past or present, listen to Internet radio stations, 
and
a whole lot more. Your new high-tech jukebox allows you to import music 
from
audio CD's, a portable MP3 player, the world wide web, or even from 
albums
you may have already stored elsewhere on your computer's hard drive.  Of
course, you can collect, store, organize and play a virtually unlimited 
number
of CD's, songs, and other audio tracks. Then, sit back and listen to 
your
favorite tunes in front of your computer, while enjoying simple 
controls,
state-of-the-art
skip and search features, and the ability to zap a song in  seconds.
Or take your music with you by copying it onto your MP3 player,
burning it on a CD, or exporting it so it's small enough in size to 
Email to a
friend or colleague.

But it doesn't stop there - oh no. Adding music to your talking jukebox 
is
just the beginning. You have the ability to create as few or as many 
folders
and sub-folders as you wish in order to keep your ever-growing audio 
library
well-laid-out. With just a few keystrokes or clicks of the mouse, you 
can
move, rename, copy, edit, delete, or manipulate one track, a whole CD, 
or
even an entire batch of CD's. Numerous navigation hotkeys and functions 
are  also
found within your Jukebox, making it a breeze for you to skip ahead a 
few
seconds, several minutes, or even for a designated amount of time - not 
to
mention
the handy Quickmark feature, which remembers the last file you were
listening to and where exactly you were in that file. A couple other 
noteworthy
features
include the option of adjusting your music volume separately from  your
master volume (meaning you can have your music playing quieter than your 
screen
reader); and a special Hide function which will cause the program  !
screen to disappear (even though your music continues to play). For the 
more
advanced computer guru, Digital Jukebox also provides plenty of 
technical
options,
such as allowing you to choose your preferred Wave, MP3, and WMA 
encoding
format, the ability to convert files on the fly, and a whole host of 
other
advanced
options which enable you to configure the program precisely  how you 
want.

Unlike other media players out there, Digital Jukebox isn't just 
somewhat  or
mostly accessible; it's totally and completely usable! True to 
MarvelSoft
style,
this program was built from the ground up with the needs of blind and
visually impaired people in mind. Every function, from simply playing or 
pausing
a song, to the more advanced area of creating a project