Re: [PD] Pd[GEM] Graphic cards

2008-05-06 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi Brandt,

nvidia cards in Linux perform real well. I haven't had a chance to make 
precise comparisons but, to me, they seem to have the most 
reliable/performant driver for the Linux architecture.

My laptop is equipped with : Nvidia GeForce 8400M GS (128MB VRAM)
My desktop has : Nvidia GeForce FX5700 LE (256MB VRAM)

Both perform real well with the lovely GEM library (my lyrical 
contribution to the topic...)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 I know that question is ask and discussed ever and ever again, but from
 time to time there is a need of an update caused by the newer hardware
 offerings on the market.
 
 What kind of GC would be a recommandation to buy.
 
 Thank you in advance
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[PD] pdj / mxdublin difficulties

2008-04-30 Thread Jerome Tuncer




Hi everyone,

I'd pretty much like to try the mxdublin
sequencer(http://www.le-son666.com/software/mxdublin/). For this to
work, one must first get the pdj external working
(http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/).

pdj compiles fine on my machine (Ubuntu 7.10 Feisty Fawn; sun-java6-jdk, ant, ant-optional
packages) and the
internal test procedures ($ant test and $ant test-dsp) run flawlessly as well. But $ant
test-mxdublin does not :
[pdj dublin]
is instantiated in the help patch with the following printed in pd's
console :

pdj: unable to use the JVM specified at pdj.JAVA_HOME
pdj: using JVM from the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
pdj: verbose classloader: system classpath:
/home/jerome/puredata/pdj-0.8.4/dist/pdj.jar:/home/jerome/puredata/pdj-0.8.4/dist:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work
pdj: verbose classloader: dynamic classpath:
 file:/home/jerome/puredata/pdj-0.8.4/dist/classes/
 file:/home/jerome/puredata/pdj/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/swing-layout.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/mxdublin.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/jdom.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/jython22a1.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/looks.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/commons-math.jar!/
 file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/
pdj: mxdublin: unable to use specified lnfName:
com.jgoodies.looks.plastic.PlasticXPLookAndFeel
pdj: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
com.jgoodies.looks.plastic.PlasticXPLookAndFeel
pdj:  at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
pdj:  at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
pdj:  at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
pdj:  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
pdj:  at
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:276)
pdj:  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
pdj:  at
java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319)
pdj:  at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
pdj:  at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:247)
pdj:  at
javax.swing.SwingUtilities.loadSystemClass(SwingUtilities.java:1848)
pdj:  at javax.swing.UIManager.setLookAndFeel(UIManager.java:580)
pdj:  at
com.e1.mxdublin.DublinSystem.clinit(DublinSystem.java:64)
pdj:  at
com.e1.mxdublin.DublinMaxObject.init(DublinMaxObject.java:23)
pdj:  at dublin.init(dublin.java:5)
pdj:  at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
pdj:  at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
pdj:  at
sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
pdj:  at
java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:513)
pdj:  at
com.cycling74.max.MaxObject.registerObject(MaxObject.java:862)

Then as soon as I try to
open the sequencer's interface (sending [pdj
dublin] the
[console( message), pd's
console spits out the following :

pdj: dublin: jython is initialising...
pdj: Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-0" 
pdj: Traceback (innermost last):
 File "string", line 1, in ?

pdj: ImportError: No module named mxdublin

What am I doing wrong ?

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Re: [PD] pdj / mxdublin difficulties

2008-04-30 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Ok,

I self solved my problem.

I just needed to install :

libjgoodies-binding-java
libjgoodies-looks-java

Re-compile the stuff (pdj  mxdublin) and everything is smooth now.

Hope it can be of use to someone facing the same trouble.


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Jé

Jerome Tuncer a écrit :
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'd pretty much like to try the mxdublin 
 sequencer(http://www.le-son666.com/software/mxdublin/). For this to 
 work, one must first get the pdj external working 
 (http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/).
 
 pdj compiles fine on my machine (Ubuntu 7.10 Feisty Fawn; sun-java6-jdk, 
 ant, ant-optional packages) and the internal test procedures ($ant test 
 and $ant test-dsp) run flawlessly as well. But $ant test-mxdublin does 
 not : [pdj dublin] is instantiated in the help patch with the following 
 printed in pd's console :
 
 pdj: unable to use the JVM specified at pdj.JAVA_HOME
 pdj: using JVM from the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
 pdj: verbose classloader: system classpath: 
 /home/jerome/puredata/pdj-0.8.4/dist/pdj.jar:/home/jerome/puredata/pdj-0.8.4/dist:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work
 pdj: verbose classloader: dynamic classpath:
 file:/home/jerome/puredata/pdj-0.8.4/dist/classes/
 file:/home/jerome/puredata/pdj/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/swing-layout.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/mxdublin.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/jdom.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/jython22a1.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/looks.jar!/
 jar:file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/commons-math.jar!/
 file:/home/jerome/puredata/mxdublin/work/
 pdj: mxdublin: unable to use specified lnfName: 
 com.jgoodies.looks.plastic.PlasticXPLookAndFeel
 pdj: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
 com.jgoodies.looks.plastic.PlasticXPLookAndFeel
 pdj: at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
 pdj: at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 pdj: at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
 pdj: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
 pdj: at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:276)
 pdj: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251)
 pdj: at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319)
 pdj: at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
 pdj: at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:247)
 pdj: at 
 javax.swing.SwingUtilities.loadSystemClass(SwingUtilities.java:1848)
 pdj: at javax.swing.UIManager.setLookAndFeel(UIManager.java:580)
 pdj: at com.e1.mxdublin.DublinSystem.clinit(DublinSystem.java:64)
 pdj: at com.e1.mxdublin.DublinMaxObject.init(DublinMaxObject.java:23)
 pdj: at dublin.init(dublin.java:5)
 pdj: at 
 sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
 pdj: at 
 sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:39)
 pdj: at 
 sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:27)
 pdj: at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:513)
 pdj: at com.cycling74.max.MaxObject.registerObject(MaxObject.java:862)
 
 Then as soon as I try to open the sequencer's interface (sending [pdj 
 dublin] the [console( message), pd's console spits out the following :
 
 pdj: dublin: jython is initialising...
 pdj: Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0
 pdj: Traceback (innermost last):
   File string, line 1, in ?
 
 pdj: ImportError: No module named mxdublin
 
 What am I doing wrong ?
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] GridFlow 0.9.1

2008-04-17 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Yep Mathieu !

Well done. Seems to be a major update. I remembered having had troubles 
with ruby and all this stuff at some point. Will try it now and see...

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J2

Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
 
 
 http://gridflow.ca/download/gridflow-0.9.1.tar.gz
 
 
 version 0.9.1 (2008.04.16):
 
  * switched from CVS to SVN
  * removed LTIlib support
  * x11: added warp method for moving mouse cursor around
  * removed all Ruby code (rewritten in C++ or Pd)
  * rewrote PPM support. now relies on libnetpbm.
(apt-get install libnetpbm10-dev)
  * removed broken Targa support
  * removed timelog feature in [#in]/[#out] (redundant)
  * removed [joystick_port], [SoundMixer], [pd_netsocket], [rubyarray],
[system], [exec], [regsub], [memstat], [#edit], [peephole],[listmake],
[gridflow]/[#global], [sendgui], [realtimer], [bindpatcher]
(contact me if you need any of them)
  * added [gf.error], [usertime], [systemtime], [tsctime]
  * added method to_ascii in [#import]
  * [display] word-wrap
  * [#import] defaults to per_message mode
  * removed support for ~/.gridflow_startup and GridFlow.data_path
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Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!

2008-03-11 Thread Jerome Tuncer
In fact,

No chance for me either.

When I try to instantiate [glue] or [zexy/glue]. On WinXP SP2.

Console output at startup says :



libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $
written by Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compiled on Mar 10 2008 at 06:15:49
compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended-20080310
Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added cyclone to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added zexy to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added creb to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added cxc to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added iemlib to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added list-abs to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added mapping to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added markex to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added maxlib to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added memento to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added mjlib to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added motex to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added oscx to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added pddp to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added pdogg to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added pixeltango to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added pmpd to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added rradical to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added sigpack to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added smlib to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added toxy to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added unauthorized to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added pan to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added freeverb to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added hcs to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added jmmmp to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added ext13 to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added hardware to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added ggee to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added flib to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added ekext to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added flatspace to the global classpath
libdir_loader: added deprecated to the global classpath


But when I try to instantiate any zexy object (be it with [drip] or 
[zexy/drip]) :


C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\drip.dll: couldn't load
  drip
... couldn't create


I haven't been using pd in windows for long but now I'd like to for some 
reasons and I'm not very confident with the behavior of pd-extended.

What is the libdir loader ? Where can I find info on pd-extended's way 
of loading externals/adding paths... ?

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Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
 We should keep this on the list, so I cc'ed it.  Try this:
 
 [zexy/niagara]
 [zexy/glue]
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 11, 2008, at 3:51 AM, Mirko Maier wrote:
 
 Works for me on WinXP.  You'll need to provide more info if you want
 hlep.
 i can't say more than i've installed it (including registry), but  
 then lots of objects don't work, e.g. niagara or glue...

 mirko

 .hc

 On Mar 10, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Mirko Maier wrote:

 hi list,
 again i've installed pd-ext:
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2008-03-10/Pd-0.40.3-
 extended-20080310-windowsxp-i386.exe

 on win xp and lots of libraries don't load, even zexy. is there no
 chance...?

 greets,
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Re: [PD] pd-ext.04 libraries don't load on xp!

2008-03-11 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Yes exactly the same down here : problem apparently shows up only on 
zexy *objects* (abstractions are instantiated with no apparent problems).

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Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
 
 So it is only zexy dlls that are having the problem?  If so, I am 
 guessing that zexy is missing the -mms-bitfields compile flag on MinGW.
 
 .hc
 
 On Mar 11, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Martin Peach wrote:
 
 Just trying things at random, dlls in extra/cyclone and other folders 
 seem to load with no problem. Zexy is weird because many of the 
 objects exist as both dlls and abstractions with the same name, like 
 a2l.dll and a2l.pd. The abstractions load OK but not the dlls, even 
 [0x3c0x7e] loads OK, while 0x2e doesn't because it only exists as a dll.

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Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)

2008-02-01 Thread Jerome Tuncer
[text3d] is much much quicker than [text2d] be it when rapidly changing 
displayed text or when just displaying... (:

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Jé

Jerome Tuncer a écrit :
 Interesting point.
 
 I didn't know it actually worked that way.
 
 This CPU exepensiveness using [text2d] made me think maybe it doesn't 
 use OpenGL and only [text3d] does so. But it finally appears [text2d] 
 uses OpenGL as well. I'll try implementing my patches with [text3d] and 
 see how it goes...
 
 By the way : my fonts are already not too curved... (:
 
 ++
 
 
 
 Jé
 
 Timon Botez a écrit :
 Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)
 Its also down to what typeface you are using. The more complex the  
 curve, the higher the polygon count. Straight edge/polygon faces such  
 as Gridnik (http://www.foundrytypes.co.uk/foundry_gridnik/ 
 gridnik.html) or Citizen (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/emigre/citizen/ 
 familytree.html) tend to speed things up. These are not gratis if you  
 are not so fussy, but there are plenty of free ones  (http://www. 
 1001freefonts.com/). Simple pixel based fonts also speed up, but they  
 look shit in 3d. Stay away from the serif - unless you do like cyrill  
 suggest - and go for texture mapping. Helps turning off antialiasing  
 too.

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Re: [PD] plugin~ problems (ladspa-linux) - strange behavior

2008-01-29 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi glerm,

This has already been discussed a a few times I think. It happened to me 
as well, the workaround I found at the time was to start pd with the 
unset LANG prepended i.e. :

$ unset LANG
$ ./pd

Alternatively :

$ unset LANG  ./pd

Does pd started from a terminal throw you an error like this one :

bad screen distance 124,00
can't find an indexable and selectable item .x8249400.t827ec80
can't find an indexable and selectable item .x8249400.t827ec80
bad screen distance 124,00

?

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glerm soares a écrit :
 
 
 2008/1/28, glerm soares [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 hello,
 
 I just compiled the plugin~ version of cvs today, and the
 compilation seemed to be ok.
 
 
 my kernel:
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[PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM

2008-01-24 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi everyone,

I use text2d to render a lot of dynamic text in a [gemwin] and I notice 
a very high CPU consumption while doing so.

Can I expect higher performances with [text3d] ? I barely now nothing in 
pure OpenGL coding but if I could get as many text objects displayed as 
simple Geos, I'd be very happy (-:

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Re: [PD] Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)

2008-01-24 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Interesting point.

I didn't know it actually worked that way.

This CPU exepensiveness using [text2d] made me think maybe it doesn't 
use OpenGL and only [text3d] does so. But it finally appears [text2d] 
uses OpenGL as well. I'll try implementing my patches with [text3d] and 
see how it goes...

By the way : my fonts are already not too curved... (:

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Timon Botez a écrit :
 Font rendering quite CPU expensive in GEM (Jerome Tuncer)
 
 Its also down to what typeface you are using. The more complex the  
 curve, the higher the polygon count. Straight edge/polygon faces such  
 as Gridnik (http://www.foundrytypes.co.uk/foundry_gridnik/ 
 gridnik.html) or Citizen (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/emigre/citizen/ 
 familytree.html) tend to speed things up. These are not gratis if you  
 are not so fussy, but there are plenty of free ones  (http://www. 
 1001freefonts.com/). Simple pixel based fonts also speed up, but they  
 look shit in 3d. Stay away from the serif - unless you do like cyrill  
 suggest - and go for texture mapping. Helps turning off antialiasing  
 too.
 
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Re: [PD] GEM light source

2008-01-16 Thread Jerome Tuncer
So I guess nobody's done it yet (:

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Jerome Tuncer a écrit :
 Hi list !
 
 For a theatre play I'm working on, I'm trying to implement lighting that 
 emanates from an object in a GEM scene. The light I want is of the 
 punctual topography so I'm quite satisfied with the plain [light] object 
 but the only thing is that when I use [translateXYZ] to put the light 
 source inside the Geo I want that light to emanate from, it just makes 
 that particular Geo disappear, which I don't want.
 
 Does anyone sees the problem and has a potential solution or idea ?
 
 Cheers for the new year !
 
 More news very soon.
 
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[PD] Split symbol into individual characters

2008-01-16 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi list,

I'm looking for a solution to split a symbol into its own individual 
characters. Something a bit like Max's [spell] object...

Anyone came up with this situation before ?

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[PD] GEM light source

2008-01-14 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi list !

For a theatre play I'm working on, I'm trying to implement lighting that 
emanates from an object in a GEM scene. The light I want is of the 
punctual topography so I'm quite satisfied with the plain [light] object 
but the only thing is that when I use [translateXYZ] to put the light 
source inside the Geo I want that light to emanate from, it just makes 
that particular Geo disappear, which I don't want.

Does anyone sees the problem and has a potential solution or idea ?

Cheers for the new year !

More news very soon.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41 test 10 released

2007-12-28 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Out of curiosity, whats is callback scheduling ? (:

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Tim Blechmann a écrit :
 The only major new feature in 0.41 is callback scheduling; 
 
 out of curiosity, i had a brief look at the code ... two comments ...
 
 - has the support for the system lock been dropped for the callback
 scheduler?
 - is it intended that the sys_idlehook is called from the main thread
 without any guard? 
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.41 test 10 released

2007-12-28 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Cool,

Maybe pd's on its way to a lower latency audio-processing tool then ?

I remember an old thread in which Tim used to say that, as it is, pd is 
by design not very a efficient real-time piece of software. IMHO, this 
is quite satisfying but if it could get better... wow.

Thank you all for keeping up with the good work !

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Thomas Grill a écrit :
 
 Am 28.12.2007 um 20:15 schrieb Jerome Tuncer:
 
 Out of curiosity, whats is callback scheduling ? (:
 
 It means that DSP processing is done directly in the audio driver 
 callback without using a separate ringbuffer in PD. This allows for much 
 lower audio latencies.
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Re: [PD] Pd-extended + Ubuntu Gutsy generic kernel versus rt kernel

2007-12-25 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi Daniel,

Interesting point here. Do you mean you edited the 
/etc/security/limits.conf even when running the non rt kernel and that 
it made things better than with the non-edited /etc/security/limits.conf ?

That's definitely one thing I must try then...

To get even more off-topic (even though I'm not really convenced it is) 
I noticed as well that rt kernels are really aggressive. For instance 
when I just play mp3s through jack with the hdsp driver it eats all 
performance for the rest of desktop apps which then get really really 
sluggish (on a PIV 3000MHz...).


Jé

Daniel Wilcox a écrit :
 To all those Pd Ubuntu-ers out there,
 
 I have been using the realtime (lowlatency) kernel for a while, back 
 since Feisty, and compiled my own in Dapper.
 
 I have noticed that, at least with Gusty, the generic kernel works 
 better then the rt kernel, giving me much *fewer*? xruns
 and artifacting with Pd ... while using the rt kernel,  Pd seems to 
 sput xruns while using Jack.  It's important to note that I
 did enable the realtime privledges by writing to the security config as 
 noted on the Ubuntu studio page:
  sudo su -c 'echo @audio - rtprio 99  /etc/security/limits.conf'
  sudo su -c 'echo @audio - memlock 25  /etc/security/limits.conf'
  sudo su -c 'echo @audio - nice -10  /etc/security/limits.conf'
 
 Could it be that the preemption enabled in the rt kernel is a bit *too* 
 aggressive?  Realtime audio in PD with Jack seems to run much
 better with the generic kernel!  Even at a 8ms latency ... in fact I'm 
 testing the same on my slow performance computer (PIII 500MHz) with a 
 fresh install of a Minimal command line Gutsy and it works *s* much 
 better then the realtime kernel.  (Plus suspend and
 hibernation work, while they don't using the realtime kernel.)
 
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[PD] colorgrid segmentation fault when GOP abstracted

2007-12-09 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi list, Lluis and Sevy,

I make very frequent use of the excellent colorgrid external and I just 
noticed what appears to me as a bug.

A GOP'ed colorgrid in an abstraction is well displayed but as soon as I 
try to remove the instantiated GOP abstraction from a patch (be it by 
CTRL+X or simply deleting it) pd instantly crashes.

I'm on Ubuntu feisty, Miller's Pd (0.41-0test09).

Backtrace follows :


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/puredata/pd/bin$ ./pd
init : Avifile RELEASE-0.7.47-070916-12:47-4.1.3
init : Available CPU flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic 
sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht 
tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr 
lahf
init : 2001.00 MHz Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300  @ 2.00GHz 
processor detected
invalid command name .x82f8fc8.c
invalid command name .x82f8fc8.c
invalid command name .x82f8fc8.c
invalid command name .x82f8fc8.c
invalid command name .x82f8fc8.c
invalid command name .x82f8fc8.c
Erreur de segmentation (core dumped)
pd_gui: pd process exited


I don't know why but I suspect a graphical/display bug...

Cheers,


Jé


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[PD] Gem CVS + pd-0.41-0test9 + Ubuntu Gutsy : Not reading video files

2007-12-08 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi list,

This is one of the first time I attempt to read video in Gem. I must 
have done bad things in my life before : nothing works...

I have dv exports from a camera : when I try to read them as they are, 
pd just crashes (terminal output at the end of mail).

So I tried to re-encode them but I seem to get the same error with every 
codec that doesn't crash Gem immediately :

mpeg3video_seek: frame accurate seeking without a table of contents
is no longer supported.  Use mpeg3toc mpeg file table of contents
to generate a table of contents and load the table of contents instead.

Then Gem kind of reads the video (sometimes faster, sometimes normal) 
but when I load a second one, it usually freezes the whole pd process...

By the way : transcode doesn't seem to be very stable in Ubuntu (many 
segfaults).

Someone has a tip, a failsafe solution ? I just want to read those video 
files... (:

Thanks in advance folks.

++



Jé


BACKTRACE FOLLOWS
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ puredata/pd/bin/pd
init : Avifile RELEASE-0.7.47-070916-12:47-4.1.3
init : Available CPU flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic 
sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht 
tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr 
lahf
init : 2001.00 MHz Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300  @ 2.00GHz 
processor detected
reader : Checking: /home/jerome/Bureau/LesFilles/Videofiles/LargeClip.dv
ASF reader : Could not find ASF header chunk in file
ASX reader : Not a redirector!
ASF network reader : Not an URL
FF reader : Format  DV video format   streams:3
FF reader : S: 0 id:19  bitrate:2880 (400) samprate:0  chn:0 
framerate:1/25  wxh 720x576  59/54
FF stream : Starttime: 0  Duration: 46988
FF reader : S: 1 id:1  bitrate:1024000 (400) samprate:32000 
chn:2  framerate:0/1  wxh 0x0  0/1
FF stream : Starttime: 0  Duration: 46988
FF reader : S: 2 id:1  bitrate:1024000 (400) samprate:32000 
chn:2  framerate:0/1  wxh 0x0  0/1
FF stream : Starttime: 0  Duration: 46988
reader : Initialized video stream (chunk tblsz: 0, fmtsz: 40)
LDT keeper : Installed fs segment: 0xb5a6c000
codec keeper : Found 9 plugins (/usr/lib/avifile-0.7,A:40,V:90)
FFMPEG video decoder : looking dvvideo
codec keeper : Created video decoder: FF DV Video
FF stream : Codeg tag format
SEEKPOS 0
*** glibc detected *** puredata/pd/bin/pd: munmap_chunk(): invalid 
pointer: 0x082b5dfc ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x1bb)[0xb7d2492b]
/usr/lib/libaviplay-0.7.so.0(_ZN3avm12StreamPacketD1Ev+0x29)[0xb74efb49]
=== Memory map: 
08048000-0811d000 r-xp  08:07 754557 
/home/jerome/puredata/pd-0.41-0test09/bin/pd
0811d000-0811f000 rw-p 000d5000 08:07 754557 
/home/jerome/puredata/pd-0.41-0test09/bin/pd
0811f000-0830e000 rw-p 0811f000 00:00 0  [heap]
b5262000-b5263000 ---p b5262000 00:00 0
b5263000-b5a63000 rwxp b5263000 00:00 0
b5a63000-b5a6b000 r-xp  08:06 1080904 
/usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ffmpeg.so
b5a6b000-b5a6c000 rw-p 8000 08:06 1080904 
/usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ffmpeg.so
b5a6c000-b5a6d000 rw-p  00:0d 2865   /dev/zero
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b5ad8000-b5b01000 r-xp  08:07 768189 
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b5b02000-b5b22000 r-xp  08:07 768187 
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b5b23000-b5b34000 r-xp  08:07 768185 
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b5b34000-b5b35000 rw-p 0001 08:07 768185 
/home/jerome/puredata/00_Externals/Bin/iemlib1.pd_linux
b5b35000-b5b5a000 r-xp  08:07 768004 
/home/jerome/puredata/00_Externals/Bin/zexy.pd_linux
b5b5a000-b5b5b000 rw-p 00024000 08:07 768004 
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b5b5b000-b5b96000 r-xp  08:07 768005 
/home/jerome/puredata/00_Externals/Bin/maxlib.pd_linux
b5b96000-b5b98000 rw-p 0003a000 08:07 768005 
/home/jerome/puredata/00_Externals/Bin/maxlib.pd_linux
b5b98000-b5c1d000 rw-p b5b98000 00:00 0
b5c1d000-b5c3b000 r-xp  08:06 524786 /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.0.0
b5c3b000-b5c3d000 rw-p 0001e000 08:06 524786 /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.0.0
b5c3d000-b5c44000 r-xp  08:06 524621 
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b5c44000-b5c45000 rw-p 6000 08:06 524621 
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b5c45000-b5c53000 r-xp  08:06 524738 
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b5c53000-b5c54000 rw-p e000 08:06 524738 
/usr/lib/libdirect-0.9.so.25.0.0
b5c54000-b5c59000 r-xp  08:06 524804 
/usr/lib/libfusion-0.9.so.25.0.0
b5c59000-b5c5a000 rw-p 4000 08:06 524804 
/usr/lib/libfusion-0.9.so.25.0.0
b5c5a000-b5caf000 r-xp  08:06 524740 
/usr/lib/libdirectfb-0.9.so.25.0.0

Re: [PD] stupid GUI tricks

2007-11-08 Thread Jerome Tuncer
In my opinion, this is not _stupid_ GUI tricks at all...

Being asked on the differences between Pd and Max/MSP, how many times 
have I answered starting with The GUI in pd isn't really as cool and 
smart as it is in Max/MSP but the DSP capabilities are in the end very 
similar.

My answer to the lack of GUI elegance is very often a salad of 
overlaying [cnv]'s to make patches look more attractive and thus very 
often more readable.

This kind of effort is not stupid, it is great GUI improvement in my 
opinion.

++


Jé

Another off-thread thing : I'm really looking forward to the day pd will 
not suffer that much from its GUI implementation : simple slider or 
table visualization/monitoring sometimes being the main reason for a 
ultra complex DSP patch to bo so heavy on the computer/resources ! (-:

Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :
 Ok, all this Tcl/Tk has started to rot my brain, so here are some  
 stupid GUI tricks:
 
 http://eds.org/~hans/pdsketch/stupidguitricks.png
 
 - change patch background colors in a patch!
 - make your patches transparent!
 - use lots of Tcl/Tk config options!
 
 Works on my machine :D and hopefully tomorrow's auto-builds...
 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-11-08/
 
 (if that link does work, it's not there yet)
 
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Re: [PD] colrgrid / GOP behaviour

2007-10-10 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Thanks guies, thanks Lluis,

I'm not using extended and I couldn't remember how to only compile 
[colorgrid] from cvs' sources... I'm trying this new version as soon as 
I get home.

++


Jé

Lluis Gómez i Bigordà a écrit :
 hi,
 
 in the colorgrid case, only last version (from last week) is working
 correctly in GOP. 
 
 you can dowload it here .
 
 http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/pd/pdvjtools/src/colorgrid/colorgrid-0.5.tar.gz
 
 i hope it will be in the extended soon ...
 
 
 
 El dc 10 de 10 del 2007 a les 09:50 +0200, en/na IOhannes m zmoelnig va
 escriure:
 IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

 i cannot repproduce this (attached patch works fine for me)

 argh, it's too early in the morning


 fmarsd.
 IOhannes
 fitxer adjunt plain text document (vugop.pd)
 #N canvas 0 0 565 394 10;
 #N canvas 671 77 450 300 sub 0;
 #X obj 126 146 vu 15 120 empty empty -1 -8 0 8 -66577 -1 1 0;
 #X coords 0 -1 1 1 100 200 1 100 100;
 #X restore 280 104 pd sub;
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[PD] colrgrid / GOP behaviour

2007-10-09 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi Yves/list,

I'm extensively using Yves/Lluis' [colorgrid] graphical object and have 
a question about one of its behaviour.

What prevents it from appearing on GOP patches ?

I already noticed this behaviour with other GUI stuff - namely core 
pd/IEM's [vu]). From a user (!= programmer) point of view, this seems 
strange to see two different behaviours for GUI objects regarding GOP 
patching.

If this is easy to implement, this is on my wishlist for colorgrid Yves (:


Jé


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Re: [PD] fullscreen on second screen (macosx)

2007-09-12 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi,

I've been using GEM for quite a while and I never had to/never did use 
the [fullscreen( message to the GEMWin object. The right [offset x y( 
combined with the according [size x y( sent to the GEMWin do the job so 
well that it never occured to me I'd better use [fullscreen( instead.

This is my 2 cents answer to your question (-;


Jé

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 i forgot to say im using gem
  
 thanks
 
 */punchik punchik [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
 
 hi, when i try to do fullscreen on the extended desktop
 screen(second screen) ... the window appears at fullscreen but in
 the first screen.
  
 how can i do fullscreen on the second screen on macosx?
  
 thanks
  
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Re: [PD] A system to read individual pixels from an image

2007-09-08 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Merhaba Batuhan,

To my knowledge, there are ways to do that in GEM.

- Loading images to see them in a window comes in pretty easy. Just use 
the [pix_image] and/or [pix_multiimage} to actually load the stuff (I 
personnaly use the tiff format for uncompressed images). Then use 
[pix_texture] to apply them to a basic GL shape like [rectangle] or 
[square] depending on the aspect ratio of the picture. Building a 
subpatch/abstraction that detects this ratio and adapts the rectangle 
size accordingly shouldn't be very complicated, I have an abstraction 
hanging around that I could give you if you wish.

- Getting pixel color can apparently be done with [pix_data]. See help 
file, never used it yet...

- [gemmouse] is your friend to get mouse coordinates and button 
information from inside the gemwin.


++


Jé

Batuhan Bozkurt a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 I'm mostly using the audio capabilities of PD and now I need this 
 functionality to port my image synthesizer I've made in Max/MSP 
 before(which was a pain while building because of the audiorate rounding 
 errors in Max/MSP) to PD. I was using the LCD object in there.
 
 The functionality I need is:
 * I want to be able to read images into a window to see its 
 contents(being able to load uncompressed images are enough)
 * A message like getpixel x y should return me the RGB values of that 
 pixel
 * It would be nice to be able to draw single pixels with mouse at 
 least...(can be implemented with something like setpixel x y r g b
 
 I know that people are doing fancy stuff with GEM and other libraries 
 but I really don't know what to chase for this simple task.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Batuhan
 
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Re: [PD] multiple instances of pd

2007-08-11 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi,

May you explain it to me as well Mathieu ?

A Paris/Montréal flight might have been a bit too expensive for such a 
workaround...

++


Jé

Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
 On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Max Neupert wrote:
 Am 06.08.2007 um 17:42 schrieb Mathieu Bouchard:
 time you activate this file it opens Pd again. You can have as many 
 as you want this way, just like on Linux.
 interesting. by the way, is there a way on linux so it doesn't open 
 all the time a new instance when i doubleclick on a pd file?
 
 I can show you how to do this tomorrow if you come to the Montréal Pd 
 users group at Marc Fournel's atelier... 19:00
 
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[PD] Does pix_info needs rendering gemwin to output infos ?

2007-04-26 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi list,

The subject of my email is quite self-explanatory isnt'it ? (-:

On my machine (pd-0.40-2, linux, GEM 0.90), pix_info needs a currently 
rendering gemwin to output its infos... Is it normal ? Can it be overcome ?

Thanks,

Be well,



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Re: [PD] rme cards with mbp

2007-04-04 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Hi Marius,

Funny enough, I just wrote today to RME to ask if they had anything 
planned about the HDSP/Expresscard issue. They very quickly answered 
that something was indeed on the way but no date could be given yet.

***

Hello,

   Will RME release an ExpressCard for its Hammerfall DSP system ?

Yes. But I can't specify a date yet. Sometime later this year.

Regards,
Daniel Fuchs
RME


***

I'm happy about such a piece of information, HDSPs just rock.

++


Jé

marius schebella a écrit :
 Hi,
 this is a little bit off topic. but it looks like there is a solution 
 now for rme pcmcia hardware for macbook pro. that is a pcmcia to express 
 card adapter (dueladapter) in combination with the newly released rme 
 UB driver for intel macs.
 my question is, if anybody has tested that on a dsp multiface? with pd?
 marius.
 
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Re: [PD] ASDR

2007-01-13 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Hi,

I think this is a good idea. I'd use the patch for instance (-:

As for the multi-point sustain zone, I like it as well but it would need 
one important feature _in my opinion_: the ability not only to define 
the n sustain points but also to specify a different time base for the 
sustain zone. I'll try and explain it as clear as possible: typical 
(as long as one accepts the use of such a word in music) attack times 
for instance are usually located in the 5-200 ms range whereas the kind 
of amplitude modulation I'd like to have with such a feature 
(multi-point sustain looping) are more in the 0.5-2Hz (500-2000ms) range 
(my primary interest in this case being rather to create a smooth 
amplitude modulation than a ring-modulation like effect).


So in the case of creating a envelope GUI (let's call it envelope and 
even break point envelope rather than AnDnSR (-:) this is something I 
would consider: the ability to draw some parts of the envelope in one 
time range and some other in other parts. Typically A and D in the 
1-1000ms range then (multi-)S and R in the 500-2000ms (in my current case).


Just exposing my thoughts and ideas. But if you implement such a thing, 
I'd definitely use it (-;



++


Jé

Rune Lain Knudsen a écrit :

Hello, I am afraid it is not an adsr. ADSR only have four parameters,
it also looks like envgen from ggee,


You can set the envelope to four points if you want to. I just wanted to have 
the option of having something more advanced than an adsr(aadddsrrr for 
example).
I haven't tried envgen but as far as I know it's an external. This is a native 
pd-patch and I kinda like it that way because it's quicker to get it up and 
running on any platform without thinking about compiling/finding a binary etc.


what this patch will be used for?


adsr(once I get the sustain into the patch)
and lfo's and maybe some sequencing.


What's a sustain function that can loop between more than one point ?


As I said this isn't done yet but I'm thinking of a sustain that, instead of 
stopping at one point, goes back and forth between two-three points. That way 
you can have slight dynamics in the sound when holding down a key as well.


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Re: [PD] ASDR

2007-01-12 Thread Jerome Tuncer
Even so late that I didn't precise the whole thing: it's in 'ggee' 
directory then 'gui' subdirectory. If you need linux binaries, just let 
me know...


++


Jé

Chuckk Hubbard a écrit :

I haven't been able to find it or its documentation on the sourceforge
link from google.
Does it actually draw a table?

On 1/11/07, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Note: [envgen] is part of Günter's ggext...

++


Jé

Derek Holzer a écrit :
 envgen

 best,
 d.

 Max Neupert wrote:
 hi list,

 i remember that there was an object like a table where it was possible
 to drag on points for example to create an envelope of attack sustain
 decay release.
 now i can't find it any more. was it an external? if yes which one?
 how is it called?

 thanks,

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Re: [PD] ASDR

2007-01-11 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Note: [envgen] is part of Günter's ggext...

++


Jé

Derek Holzer a écrit :

envgen

best,
d.

Max Neupert wrote:

hi list,

i remember that there was an object like a table where it was possible 
to drag on points for example to create an envelope of attack sustain 
decay release.
now i can't find it any more. was it an external? if yes which one? 
how is it called?


thanks,

m.

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Re: [PD] ASDR

2007-01-11 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Sorry,

Let's be more preceise then: it's located in 'ggee' directory or 
downloadable directly from Günther's site (http://gige.xdv.org/pd/).


[envgen] does indeed draw a 'table', breakpoint envelope would be a more 
precise term for what it really allows one to draw. It then outputs 
suitable float pairs for line~ when banged. It is pretty convenient I 
must admit, it does even have a 'sustain' function which I didn't really 
understand (didn't try for very long I must admit).


In fact the helpfile isn't really explicit: it has a part concerning 
'all messages' that envgen understand in which some are not documented. 
It shouldn't take too long to figure out though (-:


Late, going to bed,

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Jé

Chuckk Hubbard a écrit :

I haven't been able to find it or its documentation on the sourceforge
link from google.
Does it actually draw a table?

On 1/11/07, Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Note: [envgen] is part of Günter's ggext...

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Jé

Derek Holzer a écrit :
 envgen

 best,
 d.

 Max Neupert wrote:
 hi list,

 i remember that there was an object like a table where it was possible
 to drag on points for example to create an envelope of attack sustain
 decay release.
 now i can't find it any more. was it an external? if yes which one?
 how is it called?

 thanks,

 m.

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Re: [PD] Graz DVD aka rel01

2007-01-09 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Hi,

Am I amongst the happy few that indeed do have sound on the festival 
trailer? (-:


Even better would have been some kind of subtitle to know who 
says/thinks what... Maybe next time.


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Jé

Steffen a écrit :

Hey,

I just wondered; is it intentional that there is no sound on the first 
track (convention trailer (XXkunstkabel))?


It would have been wonderful to ehar what all these unknown people are 
saying...



Best, Steffen

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Re: [PD] Clearing pd main view output

2007-01-06 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Hi,

I use some kind of workaround advised to me by Luke Ianni :

Instead of clearing the output window I just fill it with a repetitive 
sequence so that all that comes after that looks new !


Original exemple abstraction by Luke enclosed.

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Jé

Jiri Heitlager a écrit :
I use [print] alot and therefor the output panel gets filled alot. I was 
wondering if there is a shorcut / mthod to clean all the output data in 
one go?


Thnk you

Jiri

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#N canvas 765 341 568 278 10;
#X obj 66 168 print;
#X msg 66 81 30;
#X obj 66 110 until;
#X obj 66 44 loadbang;
#X obj 155 100 bng 15 250 50 0 \$0 \$0r empty 0 -6 0 8 -259744 -154956
-1;
#X msg 66 139 (())..
;
#X connect 1 0 2 0;
#X connect 2 0 5 0;
#X connect 3 0 1 0;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
#X connect 5 0 0 0;
#X coords 0 -1 1 1 70 15 1 100 100;

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Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission

2006-12-04 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Hi tim, list,

Debian is :

crw-rw 1 root root 13,  64 2006-12-04 20:02 event0
crw-rw 1 root root 13,  65 2006-12-04 20:02 event1
crw-rw 1 root root 13,  66 2006-12-04 20:02 event2

I remember when I used [hid] a lot I had to :

# chmod a+r /dev/event*

before being able to read anything from it.

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Jé

Tim Blechmann a écrit :

hi hans,

i'm just curious ... on gentoo the permissions for the /dev/input/eventX
devices are set to 600, so they are not available for the ordinary
user ... 
is this a specific bug/feature of gentoo? did you experience anything

like this on other distributions?

tim

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Re: [PD] Send array values through OSC

2006-12-03 Thread Jerome Tuncer

Hi padawan12

padawan12 a écrit :

I've only played with OSC a little, but some things that come to mind:

1) OSC lets you pack things into bundles and it might be better to
use blocks of 32 or 64 values rather than sending each one individually.
That way your packet overhead is smaller.



I didn't dig very much much into what OSC bundles were all about but it 
seems to me that it looks more like something to send messages to 
multiple destinations at the same time than to send multiple values to 
only one dest. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...


2) Beware of what happens to floats, I seemed to get some truncation 
but the spec lists them as IEEE32s, check on what you are

getting at the receiving end.



I'd have to check that yes, anyway my scope is only a kind of scope, it 
doesn't have to be very very accurate in term of values (-:



3) It's a UDP protocol so bear in mind that over a wide area link
you can't be sure of the delivery order (or of delivery at all).



I'll bear that in mind as well.


see

http://opensoundcontrol.org/spec-1_0



Thanks, worth checking,


Jé


On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:21:17 +0100
Jerome Tuncer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi everyone,

In the process of building some kind of audio oscilloscope in Gem I'm 
trying to send values from a table/array from one computer's PD to 
another's through OSC.


At the moment, my chosen solution is to have a counter scan the table, 
then pack the values (X  Y) and  send them through a:


[send /OSC/Whatever/The/Name $1 $2(

Anyway, I do have this feeling that this is not a smart solution.

Anyone has ever done it before (send array values through OSC)/has a 
cleverer idea ?


Danke,


Jérôme


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