RE: Re[2]: Metric What?
On Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:51 PM, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 12d in a shilling, 20 shillings in a pound (quid). > > ...and that "d" in "12d" is, of course, pronounced "pee". :-) > Nah, it's not - it was pence or pennies. Then of course the Govinm'nt went and stuffed things up by keeping the old pound at it's then value and having 100 new pence to a pound, so we had to divide all our old prices by 2.4 to work out what they were in new pence. Should have had a new pound worth 100 old pence - then it would have been easy. For example, an item costing a shilling would then have cost 12np, something at half-a-crown would have been 30np, and so on. We all knew how many pennies there were at any given price, but the sale of calculators went up (by 2.4 times?) when we decimalized. John Coyle (who also thinks this thread is great fun, 'cos it let's him show off all that now useless stuff that was pounded into him by the primary school teachers from hell) Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re:
From: David A. Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mark D. writes: > > > Nah, this was the heartbreaker... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1267716236 > > Mine was cheaper than that (about $340USD). > > Feeling better? :) Actually, yes. Cause I got this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1267726217&ed=9985385 46 : ) Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canada's Pt. Pelee
don't forget smelt dipping on the point either. cold beer, getting yer waders full of COLD water & a roaring bonfire EH? Scoot - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Sports photographer mentality?
> I bracket like hell - exposure, focus, DOF, even > composition, and shoot with some intent. I'm glad you brought this up, Mark. I've been trying to figure out what "bracketing" was. Does it mean that you take your time setting up your shot and making sure your settings and composition are right before you shoot? --Amita - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metric What?
Bob Walkden wrote: > In case anybody doesn't know, and is still interested, the £SD stood > for librae, sestertii and denarii, old Roman units of currency. Not according to the late "Tiny Dr Tim" in his lifesize replica of the Taj Mahal, made entirely out of oleomargarine! m42 -( is it Friday yet? )- Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Bet this auction lasted all of three minutes... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1267696105 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)
Mind you, kiwis (the bird), look a lot like kiwis (the fruit), with beaks and legs sticking out... Paul Jones wrote: > Yep, most definately. > > - Original Message - > From: "Frank Theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: Texas (yes it's way OT) > > > Isn't it the birds (kiwis) that they're named after? Little flightless > birds > > native to NZ? > > > > -frank > > > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > > > technically a Kiwi Fruit is a Chinese Gooseberry, the New Zealanders > just > > > decided to rename it and make it there own. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Paul Jones > > > > -- > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > pessimist > > fears it is true." -J. Robert > > Oppenheimer > > > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Camera
I always like the MZ designation over the ZX. but that was just a personal thing :) Next you'll need to get a battery grip for it, it helps heaps with any larger glass on it. Paul - Original Message - From: "CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: RE: New Camera > Well I'm still alive. My wife surprises me more every day. I just have to > take a few photos at a church function next month and all is forgiven :) > > You know, this camera is pretty cool. As you may have figured, it's a MZ-5n > and not a ZX. I knew that but who cares anyway? > > Cory Waters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)
Yep, most definately. - Original Message - From: "Frank Theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Texas (yes it's way OT) > Isn't it the birds (kiwis) that they're named after? Little flightless birds > native to NZ? > > -frank > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > technically a Kiwi Fruit is a Chinese Gooseberry, the New Zealanders just > > decided to rename it and make it there own. > > > > Regards, > > Paul Jones > > -- > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert > Oppenheimer > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:24:18 -0400, Frank Theriault wrote: >Despite the fact that fully 1/2 of the land mass of the lower 48 is north of our >(Canada's) >most southern point (Point Pelee, Ontario, which juts into Lake Erie), we are, truly, >"The >Great White North"! eggactly! :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: New Camera
Well I'm still alive. My wife surprises me more every day. I just have to take a few photos at a church function next month and all is forgiven :) You know, this camera is pretty cool. As you may have figured, it's a MZ-5n and not a ZX. I knew that but who cares anyway? Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
"Gary L. Murphy" wrote: "I still believe there is no such thing as the "north" because it's south of Canada. " Despite the fact that fully 1/2 of the land mass of the lower 48 is north of our (Canada's) most southern point (Point Pelee, Ontario, which juts into Lake Erie), we are, truly, "The Great White North"! regards, frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: painted Pentax
Yup, I concur. ppro > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pieter Nagel > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: painted Pentax > > > > On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Paul M. Provencher wrote: > > > I have two black cars, prefer my black suits, and don't own anything but > > black shoes. It's a personal preference. > > Which is why I wish they'd bring out black Ltd lenses instead. A > black MZ-S and black 77 1.8 Ltd would be my ideal tools for shooting > Gothic bands and people in dark Gothic clubs. > > As someone said earlier, the silver lenses scare off the wildlife... > > -- > ,_ > /_) /| / > / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)
Isn't it the birds (kiwis) that they're named after? Little flightless birds native to NZ? -frank Paul Jones wrote: > technically a Kiwi Fruit is a Chinese Gooseberry, the New Zealanders just > decided to rename it and make it there own. > > Regards, > Paul Jones -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Enablement ReStart
Well, after 6 1/2 months (6.5 for you decimal freaks!) I've finally gotten a job! (Yes, I was actually unemployed for that period of time.) That menans one thing: e* profits now go into my vices (that's glass, film, & processing) instead of the family budget. So, what's cheap out there ... :) Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG assignment: Whitlock, Brendemuehl, Matyola.
Thanks for the comments. This was an experimental shot and controlling the light was not foremost on my mind. Getting something from the candles onto the chess board would have allowed that. Collin >From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >" Players " by Collin Brendemuehl >Interesting the role played by the two candles. It's nice that >you chose not to follow a geometrical composition too still. >I don't know if it's my monitor, but the image looks too grainy. >Did you expose it @100 or more? I think that the impact could >improve if you printed (or at least showed) darker, leaving the >dark part in a nice black background. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:25:29 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >responsible for colonizing the eastern coast of Florida. Those from the >midwest (Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa, & Minnesota) are Yeah, but those folks aren't "yankees". :-) >responsible for colonizing the west coast of Florida. The Canucks are really >displaced northerners (except the ones who speak that Frenchie stuff) and are >welcomed to help us on either coast. I still believe there is no such thing as the "north" because it's south of Canada. Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PUG Commentary: John Coyle
On Wednesday, August 22, 2001 12:45 PM, PAUL STENQUIST [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > John Coyle, "Cranes" > I found this photo quite interesting both from an aesthetic and a > technical point of view. I like the composition, with the two cranes > rising against the sky, capturing the moon between them. The deep blue > of the sky and the near black of the cranes are visually compelling. The > depth of color was, of course, achieved by underexposing the sky and > cranes. It's an interesting choice that was quite successful here. It > is, in brief, a fine photograph that demonstrates the artistry that can > be achieved when one understands the nuances of exposure. > Paul Stenquist > - Wow - thank you Paul for your very kind comments! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: USB Camera and Microscope
Oops. http://www.theproscope.com On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:22:16 -0500, William Kane wrote: > this press release have a url? > > Doug Franklin wrote: > > > Howdy, folks, > > > > I ran across a press release about a digital camera and microscope that > > connects to your computer using USB. It can work at "normal" > > magnification levels, but also comes with a 50X lens for microscopy. > > They have as accessories 100X and 200X microscopy lenses, a 1X lens, > > and a "C-ring lens mount adapter". The photos on their web page show an > > extreme closeup of some sort of insect on the screen of a laptop > > computer to which one of their cameras appears to be attached. And now > > we've exhausted my knowledge of the device. :-) > > > > TTYL, DougF > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell
Yes, quite a few secondary roads are like that. I guess in a state as big as ours (with only 1.5 million people in an area 7 times the size of Texas) we cannot justify the expense of a wide road that sees maybe one or two cars per day. Nenad Jody wrote: > I was referring to some of the roads we drove on when > in Western Australia, where there is a c.3m strip of > tarseal down the centre, and the edges are dirt. So > you drive in the middle until you meet someone, then > both move over to the side to get past. > > I thoroughly enjoyed my time there, and will return > someday. > > Jody. > > --- Nenad Djurdjevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You don't perchance live in Western Australia? > > > :) :) > > > > > > Nope, Texas (USA) work in Fort Worth and live > > about > > > 70 miles (don't speak kilometers) west of Fort > > Worth. > > > > > > Y Ha > > > Robert > > > > > As far as I can tell from "Walker Texas Ranger" > > Texas has some similarities > > to Western Australia (where I live). However, I > > read somewhere that WA is 7 > > times bigger than Texas (and you thought everything > > was bigger and better in > > Texas!). Instead of kind Texas Rangers we have lots > > of mean traffic police > > that won't let you speed or drive in the middle of > > the road ;-) > > > > Nenad > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: USB Camera and Microscope
this press release have a url? Doug Franklin wrote: > Howdy, folks, > > I ran across a press release about a digital camera and microscope that > connects to your computer using USB. It can work at "normal" > magnification levels, but also comes with a 50X lens for microscopy. > They have as accessories 100X and 200X microscopy lenses, a 1X lens, > and a "C-ring lens mount adapter". The photos on their web page show an > extreme closeup of some sort of insect on the screen of a laptop > computer to which one of their cameras appears to be attached. And now > we've exhausted my knowledge of the device. :-) > > TTYL, DougF > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Images, copyrights and search engines
A note about this just came in on the Editorial Photo mailing list. Looks like the courts are addressing the question of search engines creating thumbnail copies of images for themselves. We had a fuss about this here recently when Fast Search and Transfer grepped all the stuff from the PUG. In the case in question, however, the search engine snagged *full-sized* copies of the images in question! The story is at http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/169255.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: USB Camera and Microscope
I think the whole kit was being sold for $250.00. Now I'm beginning to wonder if were talking about the same item. At 08:00 PM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: >The Web site says 200 for the basic 50X kit, plus over a hundred each >for the 100X and 200X add-on lenses. Not too cheap a toy. Four hundred >bucks and I'd be on my way to the FA* 400/5.6 I want. :-) > >TTYL, DougF > >On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:48:34 -0400, Peter Alling wrote: > > > I've seen this in the flesh, so to speak. It was being sold in Sam's > clubs > > in Texas, > > when I looked at it. The resolution didn't seem to be that high. If it > > were inexpensive enough I would guess it would make a neat toy. > > > > At 07:48 PM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > >Howdy, folks, > > > > > >I ran across a press release about a digital camera and microscope that > > >connects to your computer using USB. It can work at "normal" > > >magnification levels, but also comes with a 50X lens for microscopy. > > >They have as accessories 100X and 200X microscopy lenses, a 1X lens, > > >and a "C-ring lens mount adapter". The photos on their web page show an > > >extreme closeup of some sort of insect on the screen of a laptop > > >computer to which one of their cameras appears to be attached. And now > > >we've exhausted my knowledge of the device. :-) > > > > > >TTYL, DougF > > > > > >- > > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Black limiteds
They have, but i dont know of anyone outside Japan aquiring one. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: Re: Black limiteds > In a message dated 22/08/01 18:05:02 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Which is why I wish they'd bring out black Ltd lenses instead. A > black MZ-S and black 77 1.8 Ltd would be my ideal tools for shooting > Gothic bands and people in dark Gothic clubs. >> > > They already have. > > Kind regards > > Peter > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: USB Camera and Microscope
The Web site says 200 for the basic 50X kit, plus over a hundred each for the 100X and 200X add-on lenses. Not too cheap a toy. Four hundred bucks and I'd be on my way to the FA* 400/5.6 I want. :-) TTYL, DougF On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:48:34 -0400, Peter Alling wrote: > I've seen this in the flesh, so to speak. It was being sold in Sam's clubs > in Texas, > when I looked at it. The resolution didn't seem to be that high. If it > were inexpensive enough I would guess it would make a neat toy. > > At 07:48 PM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >Howdy, folks, > > > >I ran across a press release about a digital camera and microscope that > >connects to your computer using USB. It can work at "normal" > >magnification levels, but also comes with a 50X lens for microscopy. > >They have as accessories 100X and 200X microscopy lenses, a 1X lens, > >and a "C-ring lens mount adapter". The photos on their web page show an > >extreme closeup of some sort of insect on the screen of a laptop > >computer to which one of their cameras appears to be attached. And now > >we've exhausted my knowledge of the device. :-) > > > >TTYL, DougF > > > >- > >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: USB Camera and Microscope
I've seen this in the flesh, so to speak. It was being sold in Sam's clubs in Texas, when I looked at it. The resolution didn't seem to be that high. If it were inexpensive enough I would guess it would make a neat toy. At 07:48 PM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Howdy, folks, > >I ran across a press release about a digital camera and microscope that >connects to your computer using USB. It can work at "normal" >magnification levels, but also comes with a 50X lens for microscopy. >They have as accessories 100X and 200X microscopy lenses, a 1X lens, >and a "C-ring lens mount adapter". The photos on their web page show an >extreme closeup of some sort of insect on the screen of a laptop >computer to which one of their cameras appears to be attached. And now >we've exhausted my knowledge of the device. :-) > >TTYL, DougF > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)
technically a Kiwi Fruit is a Chinese Gooseberry, the New Zealanders just decided to rename it and make it there own. Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: "Robert Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:42 AM Subject: Re: Texas (yes it's way OT) > Robert Payne wrote: > > > I know exactly what "furriners" are :) > > but kiwi (maybe I shouldn't ask) is a new term to me. > > Ah, interesting to see strands of nonsense messages converging. > > kiwi is a fruit, and it is furry. > > From: http://www.allrecipes.com/encyc/terms/k/7137.asp > > "kiwi fruit; kiwifruit ...this odd-looking fruit received its moniker > from the flightless bird of the same name from New Zealand. It looks > like a large brown egg with a covering of fine downy hair The kiwi > is cultivated in both New Zealand and California." > > The kiwi is a major New Zealand export, and by extension New Zealanders > sometimes are referred to as kiwis. > > Bob > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
USB Camera and Microscope
Howdy, folks, I ran across a press release about a digital camera and microscope that connects to your computer using USB. It can work at "normal" magnification levels, but also comes with a 50X lens for microscopy. They have as accessories 100X and 200X microscopy lenses, a 1X lens, and a "C-ring lens mount adapter". The photos on their web page show an extreme closeup of some sort of insect on the screen of a laptop computer to which one of their cameras appears to be attached. And now we've exhausted my knowledge of the device. :-) TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
Myy girlfriend doesnt ask how much it cost any more, when a package arrives at our door step. I met the USPS guy one morning and he was quite familiar with our house :) I'll have to follow up on that MX, its taken a while now. Regards, Paul Jones - Original Message - From: "Juan J. Buhler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:36 AM Subject: Re: new camera > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, CW wrote: > > > Wish me luck with the conversation I'm about to have with my wife explaining > > why I bought this camera. > > Good luck! > > I bought Paul's MX, it hasn't gotten here yet. Looks like a few of us > will have conversations with our wives... > > :-) > > -- > -- - > Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com > -- - > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Damien Demolder of AP
Which may point out the major difference between the internet and print media. Print is one way, only your view gets seen. The internet is many way if your view is shit, fifty or a hundred counter views will be expressed. No one appears omniknownent on the internet and that peeves some writers. --graywolf Pål Jensen wrote: > > Rob wrote: > > > He is obviously still rather upset that we didnt agree with him, and > > still misses the point regarding build quality which was second only to > > the sloping top plate in Pentax design goals for the MZ-S. > > He indeed misses the point again. However, the point is totally irrelevant. The >person in question feel hurt because (Pentax) people don't listen to his opinions. >The fact that he didn't do his job in the first place is irrelevant as well. This >gives me a sense of deja vu; a few years ago we had a similar discussion on a >Norwegian audio group about magazine reviews. A few issues later there was a long >editorial criticising the "Internet Mafia". However, this editorial one sided >"discussion" conveniently left out the main argument from the readers. > > Quote: > "In a review of the Monolta Dynax 5, he says: > > "In a recent test I commented that a particular camera was > underspecified. The replies of some readers went along the lines of, > 'Of course it is, as the manufacturer was trying to make the camera > small, light and portable'. Well here is a camera that is smaller and > lighter than others in its class, but still manages to knock out three > focused frames in a second of a moving subject. That is quite some > achievement." > " > > Are the Dynaxx 5 and the MZ-S built along the same tolerances? Its easy to boost the >FPS rate if durability benchmark is reduced. Its pretty meaningless to compare non >comparable parameters in this manner. This particular reviewer should find himself >another job. Funny enough, I recently found opinion on UK magazines in one of the >photo newsgroup. About Amateur Photographer it was said that they had a reviewer who >obviously didn't read the manuals. This was about a recent test of a Minolta (if >memory serves me right) where there were some obvious errors. > Fortunately, most if not all other tests of the MZ-S make an issue of its built >quality and find that its generally worth its price when built is taken into >consideration. > It is nevertheless amazing that a reviewer again and again fail to adress the main >design parameter behind a camera. Its fine to find the priorities questionable but >not mentioning them is unforgivable in a review. > Its best to ignore these kinds of reviews and fortunately more and more people do >due to the advent of internet where manufacturers specifications and users opinion >are easily accessible. > > Pål > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Texas (yes it's way OT)
Kiwi a strange thing to use as a nick name for a nationality. Calling someone from New Zealand a Kiwi is like calling an American (US) a Yank. At 04:42 PM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Robert Payne wrote: > > > I know exactly what "furriners" are :) > > but kiwi (maybe I shouldn't ask) is a new term to me. > >Ah, interesting to see strands of nonsense messages converging. > >kiwi is a fruit, and it is furry. > >From: http://www.allrecipes.com/encyc/terms/k/7137.asp > >"kiwi fruit; kiwifruit ...this odd-looking fruit received its moniker >from the flightless bird of the same name from New Zealand. It looks >like a large brown egg with a covering of fine downy hair The kiwi >is cultivated in both New Zealand and California." > >The kiwi is a major New Zealand export, and by extension New Zealanders >sometimes are referred to as kiwis. > >Bob >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Sports photographer mentality?
I don't disagree with you, David. Pointing a camera with an 8 or 12 frame auto winder at a moving object at a sporting event, and trusting that you'll get a few good shots may not be "art", or "fun". Anyone who's looked at PUG over the last few months will see that over the years I've shot a few moving bikes and cars, all with an old manual body (and I'm sure it shows!). I'm quite content with the results that I've gotten by trying to capture shots in that matter - not that I'm any good at it or anything. OTOH, were I a "pro" (I shudder to use word!), I'd be out there shooting the most frames I could per second, with a bulk film holder, etc, etc. When ya gotta make a living at it, and ya gotta get a shot that's publishable... regards, frank David J Brooks wrote: > Hi Cesar. > As you may already be aware,i shot mostly equine events and > i too like to set up for 1-2 optimal shots not a set of rapid > fire pictures.Were is the fun or skill in that???If you have a > dark room i supose you can develop and shose which ones > go on the contact sheet but i dont,each pic costs me at > the lab.I view photography as an art form,as i'm sure > most of the list does to,so when i shoot its to hopefully get an > image people will enjoy. > I now have a D1 i use at some events to sell "on site" pictures > and i noticed a new company shooting a show last week.The > one "shooter" sat on a hill and did the same thing,hold in the > shutter and shoot.Most of her shots were to early or late over the > jumps or caught the ass end over the jump and i heard many people > comment that my work was a lot better,will you be doing the next show > instead of these people.It took me over a year to get my timing down > and never would if i shot like that. > > Rant over Thanks > > Dave > > - -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: new camera
Hey, good luck from a guy that just traded four cameras (none of them Pentax) for a digital camera. It took some explaining to my wife to do that, and no money changed hands. Len (de KD9S) - > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of CW > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: new camera > > > Received my ZX-5n today. Purchased it from Paul > Jones on the other side of > the world. Isn't it funny that a guy would buy a > camera from way over > there in a "furin" country when there are surely > several right here in > Atlanta that people are not using? Not to mention > KEH (also in Atlanta > though they make you pay extra if don't wish to have > your item shipped) has > one for $235 > What the heck am I doing typing messages to a bunch > of people I don't even > know when there are rolls of Fuji within arms reach that need > exposing???!?!?! > > Wish me luck with the conversation I'm about to have > with my wife explaining > why I bought this camera. > > Cory Waters > Atlanta, GA USA > Now owns THREE cameras > > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. > To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. > Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Pentax 645n-II ?
Saw this posting over on the photo.net medium format digest. If it's true, they've finally added mirror lockup to their 645 platform! http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=001bRy But what about film flatness? --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, CW wrote: > Wish me luck with the conversation I'm about to have with my wife explaining > why I bought this camera. Good luck! I bought Paul's MX, it hasn't gotten here yet. Looks like a few of us will have conversations with our wives... :-) -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax 645n II
Gianfranco wrote: > Any info about the AF? > Is it possible it has the MZ-S focusing layout? I don't know anything but whats been posted. I found it on Photo.net. Anyway, it seems to me to be just tweaking of the current model. Adding MLU and making it ready for the new flashes. The rest is just making the "buried" custom functions available without taking it to service. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: New Pentax 645n II
Hi Pål, Sounds good! Any info about the AF? Is it possible it has the MZ-S focusing layout? Gianfranco __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: new camera
Good Luck :) Regards, Paul Jones >From: "CW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: new camera >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:11:53 -0400 > >Received my ZX-5n today. Purchased it from Paul Jones on the other side of >the world. Isn't it funny that a guy would buy a camera from way over >there in a "furin" country when there are surely several right here in >Atlanta that people are not using? Not to mention KEH (also in Atlanta >though they make you pay extra if don't wish to have your item shipped) has >one for $235 >What the heck am I doing typing messages to a bunch of people I don't even >know when there are rolls of Fuji within arms reach that need >exposing???!?!?! > >Wish me luck with the conversation I'm about to have with my wife >explaining >why I bought this camera. > >Cory Waters >Atlanta, GA USA >Now owns THREE cameras > > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Fisheye Dilemma
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1265459867 Two hours to go, so hurry. I have this lens and like it a lot. Frits > > I am contemplating indulging myself in a fisheye lens. > > I have the choice between the 16mm f/2.8 A and the 17mm f/4 SMC. > > However, the 16mm A lens is going for almost twice the price of the 17mm. > (GBP 375 vs GBP 200) > > Does anyone have any views on how the two lenses compare, and is the 16mm > worth the extra? > > Peter > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Two new Pentax 67 lenses
Also found on Photo.net: SMC 75/2.8 AL (7el./5groups, 61 deg., min.f/22, min.dist.0,41m, filter 67, hood included, weight 560g.) ZOOM SMC 90-180/5.6 (10el./10groups, 53-28 deg., min f/45, min.dist.1,2m, filter 95, hood included, weight 1160g.) I was told about a year ago(?) that there would be zoom lenses for MF systems. However, I was told there would be two. Hopefully this means that another will come at a later date. 645 system perhaps? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: painted Pentax
On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Paul M. Provencher wrote: > I have two black cars, prefer my black suits, and don't own anything but > black shoes. It's a personal preference. Which is why I wish they'd bring out black Ltd lenses instead. A black MZ-S and black 77 1.8 Ltd would be my ideal tools for shooting Gothic bands and people in dark Gothic clubs. As someone said earlier, the silver lenses scare off the wildlife... -- ,_ /_) /| / / i e t e r/ |/ a g e l - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Re: Home from the (flame?) war
Didn't use to be. see Warlock. --graywolf mike wilson wrote: > > Hi, > > D.Glenn.Arthur wrote: > > .model of a Viking longship. burned Saturday night on the lake in a >memorial service based on a > Viking funeral... > > If you really want to get into this pagan burning thing, I know > a couple of witches you can have for next year. > > (For the PC amongst us, please note that witches can be of > either gender) > > mike > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell.
Well, I am closer than you are to oz/gal , 8 pints not 4. --graywolf Jody wrote: > > Speaking as a non maths-impaired foreigner, I usually > think of 50.8mm as 2 inches :) > > --- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nah, we think of 50mm as 2 inchs -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Concert Photos Website
Some on the list may be interested in this website of photos taken at pop concerts: http://www.popfolio.com/ Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Fisheye Dilemma
> > JT> For about $170 or less you can have the Russian Zenitar 16 mm. f2.8 fisheye, a >quite sharp lens. > I own a Zenitar 16/2.8 made in CCCP This sample is outstanding in > terms of sharpness(edges are fabulous)and contrast. The sharpest > fixed focal lense I own (S-Tak 28/3.5, S-M-C Tak 35/3.5, S-Tak 50/2, > Carl Zeiss Jena 35/2.8). No doubt there are sample variations so ... test before buy > I've seen posts reporting that this lens resolves 60 line pairs per millimeter at the center, and 25 at the edges. That center resolution is quite good, and matches my experience. Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Speaking of the AF 280T flash ...
With this flash being mentioned in a few recent posts, I remembered a question I have about my use of this flash. I recently got the wide-angle and tele adapters for the flash head, and my query is: Are the adapters useful or necessary when bouncing the flash, or only when using direct flash? It seems bouncing the flash spreads it out anyway, so would the wide angle adapter be redundant in that situation (or even cut down on the overall light output)? And does narrowing the flash beam with the tele adapter matter once it bounces off a ceiling? Also, a question about using fill flash with this flash and a Super Program -- since the Super Program can't adjust flash exposure independently of ambient exposure, one way to play with adjusting the ambient light in the photo would be to slow down the shutter speed. But the flash causes the camera to select the synch speed, and the shutter speed then can't be changed (even with the camera in manual)! The one way around this is to switch the flash to all manual, which doesn't send the flash-ready signal to the camera, and thus not setting the shutter speed, but then I lose TTL and auto flash exposure options. Is this an accurate picture (pun intended?) of the capabilities of flash compensation with this flash and the Super Program? Joe Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Media and Technology Services - Cornell University 1150 Comstock Hall Ithaca, NY 14853-0901 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873 Please visit our Web site at http://www.mediasrv.cornell.edu - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Damien Demolder of AP
Refers to our disagreement RE his review of the MZ-S. In a review of the Monolta Dynax 5, he says: "In a recent test I commented that a particular camera was underspecified. The replies of some readers went along the lines of, 'Of course it is, as the manufacturer was trying to make the camera small, light and portable'. Well here is a camera that is smaller and lighter than others in its class, but still manages to knock out three focused frames in a second of a moving subject. That is quite some achievement." He had to have the last word didnt he? He is obviously still rather upset that we didnt agree with him, and still misses the point regarding build quality which was second only to the sloping top plate in Pentax design goals for the MZ-S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT, fer sure.....Re: Asahi vs Honeywell
William Robb wrote:
> "Dihhd youw awwwhhhl seee theemmm puuurdty little
> critters runnin' ahhroun hea
On a high school trip to New Orleans, some friends and I were busy
seeing who could stay awake the longest (yes, I know, but it was high
school), so we were at a 24-hour Denny's across the road from our hotel,
drinking coffee in the middle of the night when we were approached by a
group of Texans who had been at the next table and overheard us talking
and deduced that we were Canadians. Since they were on a trip with
their French club ("We were gonna go to Kweeebek but Lord its just too
cold"), they demanded to hear our French. We indulged them, and they
told us, astoundedly, "Y'all sound lahk the peey-pul on thuh taypes!"
We hung out for a while, and finally we started asking to hear THEIR
French. Let me tell you, if you have not heard a Texan speak French,
you're missing one of life's greatest treasures. I will carry the
sounds of "Pahhr-lay vw frahn-saeeyyy" in my heart until I die.
-Aaron
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Re: OT: Re: Metric What?
Doug Franklin wrote: > [snip] I'm still trying to figure out how big a gill is. Depends on the size of the fish. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: August PUG assignment: Whitlock, Brendemuehl, Matyola.
Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: > " Roue de Paris " by Dan Matyola > Nice shot. I find the roofs in the lower part a bit distracting. > I know that you stated you wanted the reflections on the car > roofs to be part of the image, but I think you could have done > better with a wide angle in this regard. Maybe a bit of cropping > could improve the image. Thanks for your comments. What I saw with my eye in the reflections on the cars roof appealed to me, but I couldn't get a good shot of both the reflections and the wheel, and without the wheel, the reflections were incomprehensible. This shot was the best I could get at the time showing both. On reflection (pun intended), I agree with you; the shot would be better if I crop out the automobile roofs. Thanks again for your helpful comments. Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers & Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell.
Peifer, William [OCDUS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Gianfranco, > > "Furriners" means "foreigners". The "Willy" and "Joe" characters in the > strip were likely representations of rural American country folk from > somewhere deep in America's heartland, who had probably never seen any > "furriners" in their lives, much less been to a foreign country. In fact, > "Willy" and "Joe" might not even pronounce the word "foreigner" correctly; > thus, the phonetic representation "furriner". (If you've ever read some of > American novelist Mark Twain's work -- "Huckleberry Finn" or "Tom Sawyer" -- > you have a flavor for this type of character.) This is the cartoonist's > light-hearted attempt, I think, to poke some fun at how we Americans were in > many respects culturally isolated from the rest of the world. Not ~all~ > Americans, but certainly many of the young boys who came from throughout a > rural America, mired in an economic depression, in order to fight (and > sometimes to die) on foreign soil in faraway places. > > Hope this helps. Hi Bill, Thanks, I feel really stupid not to think of it! I usually am able to understand the mispronounce (or miswriting) in English, but this time the task seemed simply too hard... I should have a coffee before reading the mail... :) Gianfranco __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: Sports photographer mentality?
Hi Cesar. As you may already be aware,i shot mostly equine events and i too like to set up for 1-2 optimal shots not a set of rapid fire pictures.Were is the fun or skill in that???If you have a dark room i supose you can develop and shose which ones go on the contact sheet but i dont,each pic costs me at the lab.I view photography as an art form,as i'm sure most of the list does to,so when i shoot its to hopefully get an image people will enjoy. I now have a D1 i use at some events to sell "on site" pictures and i noticed a new company shooting a show last week.The one "shooter" sat on a hill and did the same thing,hold in the shutter and shoot.Most of her shots were to early or late over the jumps or caught the ass end over the jump and i heard many people comment that my work was a lot better,will you be doing the next show instead of these people.It took me over a year to get my timing down and never would if i shot like that. Rant over Thanks Dave Begin Original Message From: "Matamoros, Cesar A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:24:06 -0400 To: "'Pentax'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Sports photographer mentality? Anyhow, the one thing that I noticed - as did the squadron photographer I showed them to and two non-photographers, was that the photographer was burning film. It amazed me that he took four to six consecutive shots (mash down the shutter release button) of people standing over timing chips, inspecting their bicycle, making a transaction in the sports expo. On the other hand, I would see an interesting shot in my mind and then take one maybe two shots when I thought the moment to be right. Is his style attributable to a sports photography mindset perhaps? Not being in the profession, nor having talked to many who are I figured I would tap the vast knowledge of the list. Thank you for your time, César Matamoros II Panama City, Florida - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ont Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fisheye Dilemma
From: "Peter Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am contemplating indulging myself in a fisheye lens. I have the choice between the 16mm f/2.8 A and the 17mm f/4 SMC. However, the 16mm A lens is going for almost twice the price of the 17mm. (GBP 375 vs GBP 200) Does anyone have any views on how the two lenses compare, and is the 16mm worth the extra? Hi, Peter. I own the 17mm 4 SMC. It's a lovely lens, very well built, and gives excellent results. I never used the 16 mm, but I suppose the extra milimeter is not noticeable, being the major difference the extra stop and the A setting. You must decide if you need the extra stop and the A setting based in the bodies you own and the situations you shoot. I use only the LX, so I don't mind about the A, and f4 gives a good image in the LX finder. I usually use it stopped down to f8 or f11, so I don't mind about an extra stop. You can consider the Zenitar 16 2.8. It seems to be a good performer based on the praises it receives in the list, and it's way cheapo on ebay. Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Metric What?
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:33:18 -0700 (PDT), Jody wrote: > I thought it was 64. 16 times 4. > > > > how many ounces in a gallon? > > > > 128 ... or 10 2/3 12-oz cans (of beer, of course) At least for the "American" gallon, it's 32 times 4 (Four quarts in a gallon) or 16 times 8 (pints). Being red-blooded American beer-drinking computer science majors, we always drank "tall boys" (16 ounce beers) because the math was base 2. Trying to figure out how many gallons of beer you'd consumed got to be quite a problem after the 15th or so 12 oz can. :-) I'm still trying to figure out how big a gill is.y TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
I never said it was good. However we do have water. At 10:48 PM 8/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:22:29 -0400, Peter Alling wrote: > > >Go to the Alamo count the number of people from Connecticut who fought > there. > >Then ask yourself where was Austin born. (Hint Durham Connecticut). If it > >weren't for us northerners Texas would be a state in Mexico, (I wonder > if that > >Okay, ask yourself this. If the "north" is so good, why in the heck are >the "northerners" flocking down here in >droves? :-) > >BTW, I believe that the majority of the people who fought at the Alamo >where from Tennessee and Kentucky, >which just happen to be sourthern states. :-) > > > > >Later, >Gary > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: RE: Asahi vs Honeywell.
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:14:41 -0400, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: > Gianfranco wrote, in response to Doug Franklin's post: > > I'm not sure I understand what does "furriners" mean. > > Could you please explain? > "Furriners" means "foreigners". Exactly. I don't think Mauldin ever says exactly where Joe and Willy are from, but they are definitely country boys rather than city boys. I'm left with the impression that they came from _way_ out in the country since they're even more countrified than the hillbillies in my family. :-) For anyone that's interested, Mauldin's book "Up Front" has recently come back into print. It is a compilation of a couple of hundred of the "Joe and Willy" cartoons, and some explanations and some of Mauldin's background. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
Didn't bother to run any real numbers was just amazed by the number from the north. At 12:37 AM 8/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: >That's just the southerners who came up north after WWII going home . >-graywolf > > >"Gary L. Murphy" wrote: > > > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:22:29 -0400, Peter Alling wrote: > > > > >Go to the Alamo count the number of people from Connecticut who fought > there. > > >Then ask yourself where was Austin born. (Hint Durham > Connecticut). If it > > >weren't for us northerners Texas would be a state in Mexico, (I wonder > if that > > > > Okay, ask yourself this. If the "north" is so good, why in the heck are > the "northerners" flocking down here in > > droves? :-) > > > > BTW, I believe that the majority of the people who fought at the Alamo > where from Tennessee and Kentucky, > > which just happen to be sourthern states. :-) > > > > Later, > > Gary > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > >-- >Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse >Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA >-- >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
And then they Died! Is there a lesson in that -- go south to die. Stay North and live. (Logic can be fun, especialy if misused). At 11:07 PM 8/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: >But you notice they all had the good sense to LEAVE Connecticut! > > > Go to the Alamo count the number of people from Connecticut who fought > there. > > Then ask yourself where was Austin born. (Hint Durham Connecticut). If it > > weren't > > for us northerners Texas would be a state in Mexico, (I wonder if that > > means that GW would > > be President of Mexico)? > > > > At 10:10 PM 8/21/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >> The only funny accents I ever heard were from people who spent half > the year > >> trying to keep from freezing to death. (which includes all those > damnyankee > >> border states) > >> Yup. > >> > >> JeffW. > >> Texas > >>> > > > As far as I can tell from "Walker Texas Ranger" Texas has some > >>> similarities > to Western Australia (where I live). > >>> > >>> Yup, you both have funny accents > >>> HAR!! > >>> WW > >>> > >>> - > >>> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >>> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >>> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > >>> > >> > >> - > >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > > > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell.
Stars and Stripes is still published. The cartoon was called Up Front. At 11:50 PM 8/21/2001 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:48:39 -0400, Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > > You don't understand, John. To most of my fellow Americans you are > > a foreigner even when they are sitting in your living room. > >During WW2, there was a newspaper published for the US troops called >"Stars and Stripes". In that paper was a cartoon done by Bill Mauldin >(I forget the name of the strip). They were all one-panel cartoons. >One of my favorites is one that shows the two main characters (Willy >and Joe) on the main street of an Italian town during the battles "up >the boot" in 1943 and 1944. One of them (Joe or Willy) is saying to >the other one (Willy or Joe) something to the effect of > > Have you ever seen so many furriners in your life? > >TTYL, DougF > >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Asahi vs Honeywell.
Gianfranco wrote, in response to Doug Franklin's post: > Hi Doug, > I'm not sure I understand what does "furriners" mean. > Could you please explain? Hi Gianfranco, "Furriners" means "foreigners". The "Willy" and "Joe" characters in the strip were likely representations of rural American country folk from somewhere deep in America's heartland, who had probably never seen any "furriners" in their lives, much less been to a foreign country. In fact, "Willy" and "Joe" might not even pronounce the word "foreigner" correctly; thus, the phonetic representation "furriner". (If you've ever read some of American novelist Mark Twain's work -- "Huckleberry Finn" or "Tom Sawyer" -- you have a flavor for this type of character.) This is the cartoonist's light-hearted attempt, I think, to poke some fun at how we Americans were in many respects culturally isolated from the rest of the world. Not ~all~ Americans, but certainly many of the young boys who came from throughout a rural America, mired in an economic depression, in order to fight (and sometimes to die) on foreign soil in faraway places. Hope this helps. Bill Peifer Rochester, NY P.S. -- And by the way, those of you who pointed this out are absolutely correct. In one of my posts yesterday, I said "farthings" when I should have said "furlongs". Sheesh, talk about cultural isolation! :-) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Furriners (Was: Asahi vs Honeywell.)
- Original Message - From: "Gianfranco Irlanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: Re: Asahi vs Honeywell. > Hi Doug, > I'm not sure I understand what does "furriners" mean. > Could you please explain? > Thanks, > > Gianfranco It's another spelling for "foreigners". You know, like the French and such :) Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Now very OT Asahi vs Honeywell
While you're asking yourself questions, also ask where Sam Houston was born. Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Go to the Alamo count the number of people from Connecticut who fought there. > Then ask yourself where was Austin born. (Hint Durham Connecticut). If it > weren't > for us northerners Texas would be a state in Mexico, (I wonder if that > means that GW would > be President of Mexico)? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Metric What?
Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 12d in a shilling, 20 shillings in a pound (quid). ...and that "d" in "12d" is, of course, pronounced "pee". :-) -tih -- The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT HERE and HEAR was Asahi vs Honeywell
Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think it might come from "Hear ye, hear ye" - someone else can > address that if they like. To me, "Hear! Hear!" feels more like a short, loudly enthusiastic way of saying "Pay attention, folks! This is good stuff!". -tih -- The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell.
Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > During WW2, there was a newspaper published for the US troops called > "Stars and Stripes". In that paper was a cartoon done by Bill Mauldin > (I forget the name of the strip). They were all one-panel cartoons. > One of my favorites is one that shows the two main characters (Willy > and Joe) on the main street of an Italian town during the battles "up > the boot" in 1943 and 1944. One of them (Joe or Willy) is saying to > the other one (Willy or Joe) something to the effect of > > Have you ever seen so many furriners in your life? > Hi Doug, I'm not sure I understand what does "furriners" mean. Could you please explain? Thanks, Gianfranco __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell
Jody, you are a legend!!! By the way, off subject of course, do you like fush and chups? There was a Kiwi in Australia that went down to the local "fish and chips" shop and ordered some "fush and chups". The shop attendant said "Why, you must be a Kiwi!". Well the Kiwi went home and could hardly eat because of the embarrassment. So, he worked hard and harder! "I will not go back to that shop until I can say "fish and chips"! Six months on, he thought he had it down pat. He walked back into the same shop and said "g'day mate, I would like an order of fish and chips. The attendant said "why, you must be a kiwi!". The Kiwi replied "how did you know?". The shop attendant said "because this shop has been a camera shop for the last three months!". Bob ( The Australianised Yank ) - Original Message - From: "Jody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Asahi vs Honeywell > I met this guy from Dallas, Texas, while travelling > between islands in New Zealand. I had great difficulty > in understanding a single word he said. I even had to > ask him to spell "Dallas" before I could understand > where he was from :-) > He said New Zealand was very cold. Well, what did he > expect in the middle of winter! > > Jody. > > > > As far as I can tell from "Walker Texas Ranger" > > Texas has some > > similarities > > > to Western Australia (where I live). > > > > Yup, you both have funny accents > > HAR!! > > WW > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT: Re: Home from the (flame?) war
Hi, D.Glenn.Arthur wrote: > .model of a Viking longship. burned Saturday night on the lake in a >memorial service based on a > Viking funeral... If you really want to get into this pagan burning thing, I know a couple of witches you can have for next year. (For the PC amongst us, please note that witches can be of either gender) mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Interesting question about digital: Infrared
Dear friends, I agree with those of you confirming possibility to do infrared photography with digital camera (for instance with some of Olympus digital cameras). That question is complex, but we have obtained lot of results (application mostly in biology and in other fields, too) in the framework of our research program "Scientific digital photography" in my Laboratory of digital photography in entomology. Those results will be ready for scientific publication soon. All news concerning it as well as other subjects will be accessible in the future on our web site http://www.entu.cas.cz/labdigit Frantisek Weyda - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell
I was referring to some of the roads we drove on when in Western Australia, where there is a c.3m strip of tarseal down the centre, and the edges are dirt. So you drive in the middle until you meet someone, then both move over to the side to get past. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there, and will return someday. Jody. --- Nenad Djurdjevic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You don't perchance live in Western Australia? > > :) :) > > > > Nope, Texas (USA) work in Fort Worth and live > about > > 70 miles (don't speak kilometers) west of Fort > Worth. > > > > Y Ha > > Robert > > > As far as I can tell from "Walker Texas Ranger" > Texas has some similarities > to Western Australia (where I live). However, I > read somewhere that WA is 7 > times bigger than Texas (and you thought everything > was bigger and better in > Texas!). Instead of kind Texas Rangers we have lots > of mean traffic police > that won't let you speed or drive in the middle of > the road ;-) > > Nenad __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell
I met this guy from Dallas, Texas, while travelling between islands in New Zealand. I had great difficulty in understanding a single word he said. I even had to ask him to spell "Dallas" before I could understand where he was from :-) He said New Zealand was very cold. Well, what did he expect in the middle of winter! Jody. > > As far as I can tell from "Walker Texas Ranger" > Texas has some > similarities > > to Western Australia (where I live). > > Yup, you both have funny accents > HAR!! > WW __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Metric What?
I thought it was 64. 16 times 4. > Tom Rittenhouse wrote: > > Pint! Two pints equal a quart. Four quarts equal a > gallon. Now quick > > how many ounces in a gallon? > > 128 ... or 10 2/3 12-oz cans (of beer, of course) > ... __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell
So you live about 113 kilometres from Fort Worth, then? ;) --- Robert Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope, Texas (USA) work in Fort Worth and live about > 70 miles (don't speak kilometers) west of Fort > Worth. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
Re: Asahi vs Honeywell.
Speaking as a non maths-impaired foreigner, I usually think of 50.8mm as 2 inches :) --- Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah, we think of 50mm as 2 inchs __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
