Re: SMC-A*85mm 1.4 on eBay
I read the auction description over and over again, and nowhere did I see mention of the fact that you had the damned thing in a swimming pool, and damned near electrocuted you and everyone else in the pool with your flash. Hmm, my memory is getting hazy, verry hzzy, it could well have been a Tokina 28-70 ??? vbg Cot ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Fuji Provia 100F vs Velvia ? Comments ?
David A. Mann wrote: ... I am also quite fond of Provia 400F. From the couple of rolls I tried out once, It has a nice palette. ... I find the price of this film simply outrageous. Here in Italy is about 10 Euro/USD (eh,eh) and 100F 105 Euros a 30' reel while the roll is around 6-6,50. If you consider the Sensia is currently sold in 3-pack for 10 Euro (3.33 apiece) the Pro solutions make sense only if you really need them. Last lines: I have to say the first reel of 100F I shot really impressed me. Good colors and not as saturated as the Sensia's one so it's good even for people. Very fine grain (and I had some 20x30 made from a few of my shots). HTH, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Camera support choices and comments
To Rob 1 (Brigham): I don't plan to discard the 190. Of course not estending the center post is mandatory if you want to get the best results but, replying to Rob 2 (Studdert), the problem of using the plastic base is the inability to slightly adjust the camera height. When I have time I'll inspect the center post and decide if I can saw it to a more useful lenght. Bye, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Manfrotto 055Cl vs Pro
David A. Mann wrote: ... Are they adjustable like the older lock mechanism? My older 055 legs just require the right size socket (3/8? I forget). In fact it came with a worthless plastic tool for this purpose that broke the first time I tried to use it. ... Yes, they should be adjustable and the tripod came with a metal tool, probably they were inundated by broken plastic ones. One of the things that makes Manfrotto a successful company is their attention to these things, they do mistakes but they promptly correct them and always try to improve their products while keeping the price low. In my case I couldn't find this head anywhere in Rome so I called directly the factory where they offered to ship one immediately to the distributor and from there to the shop in Roma which finally geve it to me. A really good service, although the distributor wasn't very pleased with my direct interaction with the factory. Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Fuji Provia 100F vs Velvia ? Comments ?
There is one feature about 100F that may not be too well known. It's exposure range is 1/4000 - 128 seconds WITHOUT any exposure compensation. The feature of some tungsten film in a daylight emulsion - truly fantastic. In addition, it is lower contrast with a wider latitude which makes it perfect for scanning. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: OT: Fuji Provia 100F vs Velvia ? Comments ?
I have only shot the sample roll of 400f that Aaron gave us earlier this year but i liked what i saw. Price is a bit of a factor though.Something like $18.00 Can in these parts. At least proccess is only $6.00 Dave Begin Original Message From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 14:55:29 +1200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Fuji Provia 100F vs Velvia ? Comments ? I am also quite fond of Provia 400F. From the couple of rolls I tried out once, It has a nice palette. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Sun, 30 Jun 2002 22:06:06 -0400 Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scanning at 4000 dpi with 48-bit color, the output images are about 135MB if you don't crop down to just the frame boundaries, and about 125MB if you do. Scanning an entire six-frame negative strip at 500 dpi and 42-bit color, with FARE enabled, takes less than five minutes. I dont see the point. What windows image applications can handle 42 bit color? Kind regards Kevin Waterson Byron Bay, Australia - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG IR
Had a hance to quickly look at this months pug.Again some very nice submissions. I notice a few IR entries this month,all look very neat,but seem to have less pixelation than my scan. May i enquire how ya all are setting up the scan?? I did it from the print,and played with the settings in Epson Twain 5 in manual mode. I tried various dpi's and saving at various pixel widths but i feel my submission is a lot granier than say Tim's etc. Any set up tips for a scanner newbie?? Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I dont see the point. What windows image applications can handle 42 bit color? Kind regards Kevin Waterson Photoshop. that's the only one that matters for most people. the scanner driver will convert to 48-bit color. Herb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: tokina 28-70 2.8 on eBay UK
If I didn't already have that lens I'd buy it. - --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one's for UK eBayers only, and *I'm sure* UK eBayers won't mind me mentioning it... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1363562179 I just bought an EOS version of the Pro II ;-) Depending on any forthcoming announcements from Pentax in the coming days or weeks, I may have some more Pentax gear for sale, more humbly priced of course... Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Members Photos *UPDATE*
Seek on the web and ye shall find... A good resource: http://www.robotstxt.org/ And the rather dry RFC: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots-rfc.html t On 7/1/02 10:08 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm not familiar with this robots.txt thing. What does it do and what kind of protection does it provide? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/01/02 12:39AM - Original Message - From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: PDML Members Photos *UPDATE* So now if any one has a problem with me using their image off Denis's site then let me know. They will only be used for this page of pdml members. I will only be using the images from Denis's site of people who are still current members of the pdml. Put a robots.txt file on the thing to protect the directory from image harvesters William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident
At 12:58 PM 7/1/02 -0400, you wrote: Mike Nosal wrote: My photo lab has a sign up warning customers that they've experienced problems with APS film being fogged by X-ray security machines, but not other film types. I'll ask them for more info next time I'm there. Could it have something to do with the magnetic layer on APS films? Hi Mike, Thanks for the information. Is this a pro lab or a mini-lab? Hmmm, more like a prosumer lab - they are way better than most mini-labs, but they really aren't a pro lab either. That's an interesting thought about the magnetic stripe. Have you had a chance to see any examples of fogged APS film, and if so, does it appear that fogging is worse along the part of the emulsion closest to the stripe? I just saw the sign up the last time I was there, but I didn't have a chance to talk to them about it. I'll see what they say. --Mike - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Hallo Bill! The front element of a 50 mm f/1.4 lens has bigger diameter than a 50 mm f/4 lens. (Am I correct?) Therefore the preliminary amount of light energy reaching an imaginary plane or film behind the lens per unit time per unit area is more than a 50 mm f/4 lens as it has a smaller front element. When it is stopped down to f/4, the amount of light reaching the film plane is more than 50 mm f/4 lens. The above explanation depends only on one point that the front element of a 50 mm f/1.4 lens has bigger diameter than 50 mm f/4 lens, if it is at all correct. However, you are absolutely right that f/4 is still f/4 or in other words, the diameter of the aperture at f/4 is identical in both the cases and therefore, the light has to pass through the holes of identical diameters but what I mean to say is that the intensity of light in 50 mm f/1.4 lens is more than a 50 mm f/4 lens. Please correct me, if I am wrong anywhere. Many thanks for your comments. With best regards, Ayash Kanto. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee wrote: I have some doubts regarding lenses with small f-numbers. Suppose you have two lenses, one is 50 mm f/4 and the other is 50 mm f/1.4. If, I stop down the second lens to f/4, which one will give faster shutter speed for correct exposure? I feel that second lens has more light gathering power therefore it will give high shutter speed. Am I correct? No - they'd be the same since f4 is f4 no matter the lens, etc. It is possible that one may have some indistinguishable difference due to light transmission efficieny, but it is doubtful that it would be significant enough to register except using extremely small latitude emulsions. I suspect no auto exposure camera system would be sensitive enough to detect this and change the shutter speed. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: July PUG IR
Hi Timothy. I also used the 4x6 print,Epson manual mode so i could do the dpi etc adjusting. I started out with high dpi and when i adjusted in PS6 to 600x400 it would make the print size about 1x1.5 which i thought would come out to small on the PUG.I played with the source and destionation sizes and found 100dpi worked best to resize to 600x400 and keep a reasonable screen size. Dave Begin Original Message From: Timothy Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 07:32:30 -0700 To: Pentax Discussion List pentax- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: July PUG IR Hi David... Yes, there are just a few IR pix in there this month! What's your original neg/print like? This scan was done with a 4x6 print on a Umax Astra 2100 (cheapo consumer scanner) at 600 dpi, 24 bits/pixel. I actually use these settings for all my scanning, then use photoshop to adjust size and depth as the purpose needs. The sky was mostly cloudy the day I shot this picture, which leads me to believe the quantity of grain may have been affected. Some of the frames are quite grainy and some are perfectly smooth. I finished the roll in about two hours. The grainiest images seem to be those that were reflecting a lot of direct sunlight. In this case, the bridge and plants were in shade and the sun was mostly hidden behind clouds. t On 7/1/02 3:50 AM, David Brooks wrote: Had a hance to quickly look at this months pug.Again some very nice submissions. I notice a few IR entries this month,all look very neat,but seem to have less pixelation than my scan. May i enquire how ya all are setting up the scan?? I did it from the print,and played with the settings in Epson Twain 5 in manual mode. I tried various dpi's and saving at various pixel widths but i feel my submission is a lot granier than say Tim's etc. Any set up tips for a scanner newbie?? Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Hallo Yves! Just a few minutes ago, I replied to Bill. You are absolutely right in your point. I know that quite well. The f-number is defined as the ratio of focal length to the diameter of the aperture (Am I correct?). But I am talking about the preliminary intensity of light reaching the film plane because of the wider diameter of the front element in the case of 50 mm f/1.4. Your reply is of course comprehensible. Many thanks for your reply. With best regards, Ayash On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Yves Caudano wrote: At 20:56 1/7/02 +0530, you wrote: I have some doubts regarding lenses with small f-numbers. Suppose you have two lenses, one is 50 mm f/4 and the other is 50 mm f/1.4. If, I stop down the second lens to f/4, which one will give faster shutter speed for correct exposure? The correct exposure will be obtained with the same shutter speed for both lenses. Actually, that same shutter speed should even give the correct exposure for any lens [*]. This is because f-stops are defined so that this property holds. As a result, for identical f-stops, the actual diameter of the diaphragm will depend on the focal length and the lens design. To go back to your comparison between the two 50 mm lenses, I expect the optical quality of the F1.4 lens to be better at f4 than the F4 lens, though (since you are not pushing your lens to its limits, especially regarding vignetting). [*] assuming infinity focus and (as mentioned earlier by Bill Casselberry) negligible transmission losses. Hope this helps (and is comprehensible), Yves - Dr. Yves Caudano Laboratoire LASMOS Département de Physique Facultés Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix 61 Rue de Bruxelles B-5000 Namur Belgium [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel : + 32 (0)81 72 5487 fax : 4707 URL : http://www.scf.fundp.ac.be/~ycaudano/ Lasmos laboratory URL : http://www.fundp.ac.be/sciences/physique/lasmos/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: July PUG IR
Thanks Wendy.I really like your March Road shot. The main problem i was having was when i resized from a large dpi scan,300 or 600 dpi, in PS6(to the pug size of 600x400 and 75 k)the picture size was reduced to less than an inch by abit bigger than an inch. Am i missing something with the size of file vs the constrants in image resize??? Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Members Photos *UPDATE*
Thanks. I guess I just don't keep up with these things. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/01/02 01:20PM Seek on the web and ye shall find... A good resource: http://www.robotstxt.org/ And the rather dry RFC: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/norobots-rfc.html t On 7/1/02 10:08 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: I'm not familiar with this robots.txt thing. What does it do and what kind of protection does it provide? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/01/02 12:39AM - Original Message - From: Paul Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: PDML Members Photos *UPDATE* So now if any one has a problem with me using their image off Denis's site then let me know. They will only be used for this page of pdml members. I will only be using the images from Denis's site of people who are still current members of the pdml. Put a robots.txt file on the thing to protect the directory from image harvesters William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Delivery!
In a message dated 01/07/02 18:34:38 GMT Daylight Time, Frank writes: You little tease!! g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little box arrived from Japan today. I will explain later Well, now is later I've had time to code it all up, sort into orders stock etc. A couple of 31mm Black, a couple of 77 Black, a couple of those really rather nice Magnifier Fb s, a pile of LX straps, finally some more Body Finder Caps, more bright screens all types, LX leather soft cases, a spare? hood for the 85 1.4A*, some sync cords A B, oh, and some OM Nikon stuff you wouldn't be interested in. Toodle pip! Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG Fave
I'll try to comment on other favourites later, but I'll take time now to comment on my absolute favourite for the month, which is: Angels in America by Richard Seaman I love the way you panned with the left-to-right plane, keeping that sharp, while the other jet is a bit blurry, giving the impression of speed. You seem to have caught this at the ~perfect~ moment - just as the nose of each touches the wing-tip of the other - and it makes for beautiful symmmetry. All in all, the composition, the timing and the sharpness simply make this the best of this month for me. Thanks for sharing it with us. Close second goes to: After the Fall by E.N.R. Reed A beautifully poignant moment showing the bond between a father and his son. I do kind of wish the father's face were a bit brighter, but of the two, I prefer seeing the expression on the son's face. I think Dad's feeling toward son may be just as well expressed by his body language in any event. All in all, a lovely, tender moment. Thanks. Hopefully, I'll comment on my other faves in a week or two. As always, a terrific gallery, so I'll need to take my time, to make sure I get it right! regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: July PUG IR
Hi David, On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:37:47 -0400, David Brooks wrote: Thanks Wendy.I really like your March Road shot. The main problem i was having was when i resized from a large dpi scan,300 or 600 dpi, in PS6(to the pug size of 600x400 and 75 k)the picture size was reduced to less than an inch by abit bigger than an inch. Am i missing something with the size of file vs the constrants in image resize??? Yes you are missing something important :-) You could have changed that resized image (600x400 pixels) to the right display size by adjusting the DPI from 300 to something like 75 in photoshop. That way photoshop will show you a size that is valid for most monitors. Do NOT resample doing this, or you will change the number of pixels again! The size indicated by your imaging program is just an indication and is valid for the (also specified) number of pixels/inch The 300 DPI is used by the scanner and is put in the outputfile so a printer can print it out in the original size. 300 DPI is fine for printer. So if you have 600x400 pixels and 200 pixels/inch (sometimes called PPI or DPI) the size printed would be 3x2 inches. Programs like photoshop can size the image on the screen to match the printing size. Viewing the image in 1:1 scaling however, will use the monitor/graphic card resolution which is usually something like 72 or 75 pixels/inch. You can change the printing size for an image in photoshop without changing the number of pixels. All it needs to do is change the number of pixels/inch. This value is saved with the image so other programs can use the same value again when printing ... A 600x400 pixels image is just that 600 times 400 pixels, that is what defines the resolution of the image when displayed or printed without any further interpolation. On a computer-monitor, the total screen is usually 800x600 or 1024x768 pixels, so an image like 600x400 will easily fit on that. In general, displaying on a computer monitor will NOT change the image resolution by donig a resize or interpolation. So for submission to the PUG it does not really matter, as long as you have 600x400 pixels (or something close to that) you are fine. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fuji Provia 100F vs Velvia ? Comments ?
Bob wrote: There is one feature about 100F that may not be too well known. It's exposure range is 1/4000 - 128 seconds WITHOUT any exposure compensation. The feature of some tungsten film in a daylight emulsion - truly fantastic. REPLY: Well, I don't think it's particularly fantastic considering the fact that the Kodak E-emulsions have done the same for years. I still prefer Kodak film for low light shooting. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Fuji Provia 100F vs Velvia ? Comments ?
Dave wrote: What's the color like compared to Velvia which is ISO 50 ? It seems that people are either Velvia lovers or Velvia haters - I don't mind the film but if the colors on the Provia 100 are a little more subtle, it may be the film for me when it comes to chromes. REPLY: Provia F may be more subtle but I for one find the color palette of Provia F to be weird. Velvia is saturated but I find Velvia colors accurate whereas the Provia F colors are unpleasant. Particularly it's rendering of blue; blue skies are rendered with a steelish, grey-blue hue of which I've never seen in real life. Sunny winter scenes with Provia F is horrible stuff. Provia is also very fine grained but is no sharper than other 100ISO slide films - some even say its less sharp. Allegedly, Fuji have changed the color response of Provia F after I used it so maybe some of the color problems are sorted out. Anyway, I never use it cause it is prohibitely expensive costing twice as much as comparable filmst. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: A* 600mm f5.6
William wrote: Shooting in the morning sun the past two days revealed no difficulty focusing a f5.6 or f8 (with a Kenko 1.5X TC), and I do plan on getting the Pentax 1.4X-L TC for the superior compatability, but I wonder about a 2X TC, going to F11. Will I need a searchlight to focus in cloudy weather? Your experiences? REPLY: My advice is to forget using a 2X converter with a 600mm lens. One thing is that no lens will give good result with a 2X converter (in spite of what some people claim, no good 2X converter has ever been made - you get visible image degradation with all 2X converter + lens combinations known to man), another issue is that a 1200mm lens is virtually impossible to support. In addition, you need to stop down at least two stops to get even half decent results from a 2X converter something that gives you a shooting aperture of F:22. You are going to be constantly plagued by vibration problems and can only shoot still life. The Pentax 2X-L converter doesn't really work with the 600/4 if you are even the slightest quality concious, at least you need two tripods, so I doubt it will work any better with the 600/5.6. The 1.4X-L converter should work great though. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG Fave
In a message dated 7/1/2002 1:07:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Close second goes to: After the Fall by E.N.R. Reed A beautifully poignant moment showing the bond between a father and his son. I do kind of wish the father's face were a bit brighter, but of the two, I prefer seeing the expression on the son's face. I think Dad's feeling toward son may be just as well expressed by his body language in any event. All in all, a lovely, tender moment. Thanks. Thanks for your compliments -- I liked it too. Will see what I can do about bringing up the face. I'm hoping that they like the photo enough to forgive me for photographing them instead of rushing to the rescue ... ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
At 23:11 1/7/02 +0530, you wrote: Hi again! You probably sent this mail before receiving my previous answer: I hope this will clarify it anyway. The front element of a 50 mm f/1.4 lens has bigger diameter than a 50 mm f/4 lens. (Am I correct?) Yes Therefore the preliminary amount of light energy reaching an imaginary plane or film behind the lens per unit time per unit area is more than a 50 mm f/4 lens as it has a smaller front element. If the diaphragm is wide open, yes. No, if both lenses are set to the same f-stop. When it is stopped down to f/4, the amount of light reaching the film plane is more than 50 mm f/4 lens. No, because you will close down the diaphragm of the F1.4 lens so that the same amount of ligth will arrive on the film than with the F4 lens with its diaphragm wide open. The additional, outer rays, allowed by the larger front elements of the F1.4 lens are blocked by the diaphragm, so that, eventually, the same amount of light reaches the film. The above explanation depends only on one point that the front element of a 50 mm f/1.4 lens has bigger diameter than 50 mm f/4 lens, if it is at all correct. It depends also on the size of the diaphragm. However, you are absolutely right that f/4 is still f/4 or in other words, the diameter of the aperture at f/4 is identical in both the cases and As a said in my previous mail, the diameter of the aperture at f4 may vary between lenses (especially of different focal length). However, the amount of light reaching the film at f4 is identical from lens to lens (by definition of f-stops, and this is why they are useful!). therefore, the light has to pass through the holes of identical diameters but what I mean to say is that the intensity of light in 50 mm f/1.4 lens is more than a 50 mm f/4 lens. I am writing the following quickly, so take it with a pinch of salt: if the F1.4 has the same design than the f4 lens and just has larger front elements, I indeed would guess that the diaphragm opening of the F1.4 lens at F4 should be the same than the size of the diaphragm of the F4 lens wide open. In other words, I expect that, in that *particular* case, the diaphragm of both lens would have the same diameter when the same amount of light reaches the film. I may be wrong though. However, this would be definitely true for a very simple lens consisting of a single element: in that case, the amount of light reaching the film depends only on the diaphragm size and not on the (larger) lens diameter, since the diaphragm blocks all the outer rays and lets only the rays coming from the lens center in. Closing the diaphragm behind a large lens is then equivalent to take a lens with a smaller diameter. Many thanks for your comments. You are welcome. Yves - Dr. Yves Caudano Laboratoire LASMOS Département de Physique Facultés Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix 61 Rue de Bruxelles B-5000 Namur Belgium [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel : + 32 (0)81 72 5487 fax : 4707 URL : http://www.scf.fundp.ac.be/~ycaudano/ Lasmos laboratory URL : http://www.fundp.ac.be/sciences/physique/lasmos/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
unsubscribing for some time
Hi! I'm on holiday and so i'll go to the seaside for some time! ciao Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: July PUG Fave
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of frank theriault I'll try to comment on other favourites later, but I'll take time now to comment on my absolute favourite for the month, which is: Angels in America by Richard Seaman Yeah, that's a great shot. My fave is Inside PDML Central by Bill Owens I swear, it makes me feel like I was there! tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PDML Members Photos *UPDATE*
http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/robots.html is the redirected link James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: unsubscribing for some time
Oh, the seaside. You make it sound very romantic. When I go on my holidays, it's to the lakefront. No appeal to it. Jeff - Original Message - From: Laura Cavaliere [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:50 PM Subject: unsubscribing for some time Hi! I'm on holiday and so i'll go to the seaside for some time! ciao Laura - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Pentax lull
I had planned to go for a weeks camping to Vernon, BC with my family today, but I'm down with bronchial pneumonia. It might be fun, no fighting kids, just peace and quiet. Won't get out much with my camera, but I still hope to get some BW photos done to submit to the August PUG. I am thinking of playing around with some still life studies at home, and see what transpires. Any suggest? James - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Hi Yves! Your explanation is absolutely clear to me. So, it is the diaphragm which blocks of the extra amount of light collected by lenses with bigger front element. Yeah! I liked the pinch of salt. I am very much thankful to you and Bill. Now, I am in a position to arrive at the second stage of the drama. I was watching world cup football on TV and there I saw that all the photographers are equipped with small f-number lenses, seemed to be 300 mm f/2.8 kind. They must be shooting at shutter speed of 1/125 th of second in order to stop the action. Now the light in an artificially illuminated stadium is too low. The solution to the problem is to use a fast film and a steady tripod since the focal length is too large to hand hold the set-up. I shall like to know what aperture do they use with what film speed? Do they use those big lenses to take an advantage of f/2.8 or do they always shoot at wide open apertures? (I don't think so as the photographs appear quite sharp with good depth of field (3 m) in the sports magazine) I can put the question in another manner. Suppose I have a 300 mm f/5.6 lens. What film speed should I use in order to stop the action as well as attaining good depth of focus (say, 4 m) in an artificially illuminated stadium? I apologize for this kind of complicated question. I am just inquisitive, that's all. Many thanks for explanation. It cleared a lot of doubts. With best regards, Ayash. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Yves Caudano wrote: At 23:11 1/7/02 +0530, you wrote: Hi again! You probably sent this mail before receiving my previous answer: I hope this will clarify it anyway. The front element of a 50 mm f/1.4 lens has bigger diameter than a 50 mm f/4 lens. (Am I correct?) Yes Therefore the preliminary amount of light energy reaching an imaginary plane or film behind the lens per unit time per unit area is more than a 50 mm f/4 lens as it has a smaller front element. If the diaphragm is wide open, yes. No, if both lenses are set to the same f-stop. When it is stopped down to f/4, the amount of light reaching the film plane is more than 50 mm f/4 lens. No, because you will close down the diaphragm of the F1.4 lens so that the same amount of ligth will arrive on the film than with the F4 lens with its diaphragm wide open. The additional, outer rays, allowed by the larger front elements of the F1.4 lens are blocked by the diaphragm, so that, eventually, the same amount of light reaches the film. The above explanation depends only on one point that the front element of a 50 mm f/1.4 lens has bigger diameter than 50 mm f/4 lens, if it is at all correct. It depends also on the size of the diaphragm. However, you are absolutely right that f/4 is still f/4 or in other words, the diameter of the aperture at f/4 is identical in both the cases and As a said in my previous mail, the diameter of the aperture at f4 may vary between lenses (especially of different focal length). However, the amount of light reaching the film at f4 is identical from lens to lens (by definition of f-stops, and this is why they are useful!). therefore, the light has to pass through the holes of identical diameters but what I mean to say is that the intensity of light in 50 mm f/1.4 lens is more than a 50 mm f/4 lens. I am writing the following quickly, so take it with a pinch of salt: if the F1.4 has the same design than the f4 lens and just has larger front elements, I indeed would guess that the diaphragm opening of the F1.4 lens at F4 should be the same than the size of the diaphragm of the F4 lens wide open. In other words, I expect that, in that *particular* case, the diaphragm of both lens would have the same diameter when the same amount of light reaches the film. I may be wrong though. However, this would be definitely true for a very simple lens consisting of a single element: in that case, the amount of light reaching the film depends only on the diaphragm size and not on the (larger) lens diameter, since the diaphragm blocks all the outer rays and lets only the rays coming from the lens center in. Closing the diaphragm behind a large lens is then equivalent to take a lens with a smaller diameter. Many thanks for your comments. You are welcome. Yves - Dr. Yves Caudano Laboratoire LASMOS Département de Physique Facultés Universitaires Notre-Dame de la Paix 61 Rue de Bruxelles B-5000 Namur Belgium [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel : + 32 (0)81 72 5487 fax : 4707 URL : http://www.scf.fundp.ac.be/~ycaudano/ Lasmos laboratory URL : http://www.fundp.ac.be/sciences/physique/lasmos/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss
JOHN TITTERINGTON
Does anyone have a personal, and, hopefully, recent experience with John (please limit it to fixing cameras :=)? Regards, Alex - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Ayash Kanto Mukherjee wrote: You are absolutely right in your point. I know that quite well. The f-number is defined as the ratio of focal length to the diameter of the aperture (Am I correct?). Yep - so the light-gathering of the bigger front element will get funneled down to the same as the f4 when stopped down to f4 But I am talking about the preliminary intensity of light reaching the film plane because of the wider diameter of the front element in the case of 50 mm f/1.4. The intensity of the source doesn't enter into things. Unless it differs between the time you use the f1.4 and the time you use the f4, an autometering system will give the same shutter speed at any given f-stop. Things do look brighter in the viewfinder w/ the f1.4, but when stopped down this disappears. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July PUG IR
David Brooks wrote: Am i missing something with the size of file vs the constrants in image resize??? drop the dpi down to 100 (any more is wasted the web) when you resize to 400x600. This will spread things out so the image doesn't shrink. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
Go to: http://www.outertech.com/news.php?news=23PHPSESSID=93ff98990fdc63e637e6e639146f26b5 Download and install the cachemanager, it will resolve the 512MB limitation for WindowsME and the like, will likely improve the stability of your system, and increase the speed of many tasks, like scanning. If you want, you can register the program for $10 On Monday 01 July 2002 07:09, David A. Mann wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: Make sure you've got at least 256MB of RAM in your system or you're going to do a lot of waiting. I'm maxed out at 512MB and it helps when you've got more than one image in memory, like batch scanning. 1GB is not too much if you want to batch scan all six frames in the negative carrier at once at full resolution. Not a problem. I have 512... I'd have 1Gb by now if it wasn't for Win ME. I don't plan on doing batch scanning. That allows you to scan an entire roll of APS film at once. I hate to think how much memory that takes at full resolution. Who cares ;) I do wish it could scan true panoramas (mine are 24x68mm). The HP S20 is the only 35mm scanner I know of that can do this. But thats a minor point as my Arcus 1200 can handle those, if my calibration slide ever turns up. Scanning a frame at 4000 dpi, 42-bit color, with FARE (IR scratch/dust removal) enabled, will take around ten to fifteen minutes per frame. That's quite a long time but for the price I have to expect to make some tradeoffs. I saw one review posted a couple of samples images with FARE on and off and it looks quite good. Unless you use the strong setting there appears to be very little, if any, image degradation. Rather than using FARE I will start by just cleaning the slide and rubber- stamping dust out. If thats too much of a chore I'll put the FARE on :) The vast majority of this time seems to be the actual scanning. It doesn't look like changing from USB to SCSI would help much, as a fraction of the total time. It seems like it might knock off fifteen to thirty seconds, but that seems to be about it. I had to buy a SCSI card for the Arcus 1200 so I'll buy another cable and hook it onto that. The Canon scanner only supports USB1.1 which isn't exactly blazingly fast for this kind of application. USB2.0 is a lot faster. FARE works very well, but big scratches or hairs or things will cause it to fail. The bummer is that the driver doesn't detect the failure until after the entire scan is done, then it throws away the image due to the failure. Cleaning the negative and rescanning almost always works. I keep a blower-brush at the computer desk and _always_ clean my slides prior to scanning. A five-second brush saves several minutes of retouching... These operational problems are not enough to keep me from using the scanner, though the memory leaks can get me pretty frustrated sometimes. Yeah it does sound a little annoying, but bad software is a lot easier to fix than bad hardware :) Have you tried it with Vuescan? The biggest problem I'm having is what appears to be grain aliasing. It only happens at 4000 dpi, and I'm afraid the only real way to fix it is to go up or down in resolution. I've heard that grain aliasing occurs with all 4000dpi scanners anyway. Do you know what slide films would be like in that case? The films I use most are Kodak E100SW and Fuji Provia 100F (and a few rolls of Velvia). I'm still trying to figure out a really good way to even it out after scanning. The Arcus 1200 driver has an amazingly good descreening function, but that's designed to get rid of regular line-screens from halftoned material. Thanks for the comments, Doug. Do you have any specific comments on the scanner's dynamic range? Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Monday 01 July 2002 03:06, Doug Franklin wrote: Make sure you've got at least 256MB of RAM in your system or you're going to do a lot of waiting. I'm maxed out at 512MB and it helps when you've got more than one image in memory, like batch scanning. 1GB is not too much if you want to batch scan all six frames in the negative carrier at once at full resolution. Well, with Vuescan, available from http://www.hamrick.com you can do batch scanning without using Photoshop or another program, Vuescan will do the scan and save it on your hard disk, so you can do the PhotoShop magic in a later phase. You can instruct it to release the memory after the scan. This means that you use less memory and you don't use the manufacturers driver. -- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Monday 01 July 2002 14:25, Doug Franklin wrote: I haven't used the strong setting on FARE, but I've been very happy with the results of the normal setting. I just wish Vuescan could deal with the scratch removal. I thought Vuescan does support this, but then again I don't have this scanner. -- Frits J. Wüthrich (Sent with Kmail) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident
My photo lab has a sign up warning customers that they've experienced problems with APS film being fogged by X-ray security machines, but not other film types. I'll ask them for more info next time I'm there. Could it have something to do with the magnetic layer on APS films? Not likely. Could it be because APS uses a plastic cassette instead of metal, like 35mm? If so, 120 film should also be fogged Bill KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident
I have flown in and out of SFO numerous times with unexposed and exposed film, including after the 9/11. The last time was in March, and I carried a bunch of Kodak Portra 400NC. I had no fogging problems at all. I'm pretty sure that as recently as March the SFO security gates were still using their same old equipment to screen carry-on baggage. Is there any possibility that he checked the film? Also, I think that APS cartridges are plastic while 35mm canisters are generally metal. Finally, the magnetic information on APS film can include instructions intended for the minilab machinery. Maybe some data field got corrupted and made the machine do odd things with the film? --Mark - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: JOHN TITTERINGTON
hes being doing my spotmatics for years with great results. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JOHN TITTERINGTON Does anyone have a personal, and, hopefully, recent experience with John (please limit it to fixing cameras :=)? Regards, Alex - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
July PUG
I just finished viewing the entries in the July PUG. What a truely great collection of photographs! The PUG is usually excellent, but I think this month is well above average, with many great shots. Quite a humbling experience! My favorite is Angels in America, by Richard Seaman. I have attended many airshows, and taken many shots of the Blue Angels and other groups, so I really appreciate what a an excellent piece of work this is. It really captures not only the particular moment in time, but also the essential spirit of the Blue Angels' performance. I also liked the following photos very much, each of which is similar to shots I have attempted often and each of which really grabs the critical moment: Andre Langevin, Bang On Antti-Pekka Virjonen, Comet Ikeya Zhang Kathleen Leickly, Tree Swallows Thibault Grouas, A Colorful Garden Finally, I also liked Woman on Top, by Ollen Malles very much. What a clever and effective still life! Dan -- Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanley, Powers Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East http://danmatyola.com Bridgewater, NJ 08807 (908)725-3322 fax: (908)707-0399 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A* 600mm f5.6
My advice is to forget using a 2X converter with a 600mm lens. Well, yes and no, Paal... One thing is that no lens will give good result with a 2X converter (in spite of what some people claim, no good 2X converter has ever been made - you get visible image degradation with all 2X converter [snip] Yes, all 2X TC's (and, to a lesser degree, all 1.4X and 1.5X TC's) cause some image degradation. However, sometimes the degradation is small enough, and the use important enough, that such use is justified. In addition, the A 2X-L is a better optical match for the 600/5.6 than are the typical garden-variety 2X TC's with almost any lens. another issue is that a 1200mm lens is virtually impossible to support. Difficult, yes - impossible, no. In addition, you need to stop down at least two stops to get even half decent results from a 2X converter something that gives you a shooting aperture of F:22. Again, this is true for maximum image quality. However, sometimes the use of a TC with a wide open lens is justified. You are going to be constantly plagued by vibration problems and can only shoot still life. Or, you would constantly have to be concerned with, and would constantly have to compensate for, vibration problems. Are you still showing the effects of your frustration with trying to use the 600/4 on a zodiac? g The Pentax 2X-L converter doesn't really work with the 600/4 if you are even the slightest quality concious, at least you need two tripods, so I doubt it will work any better with the 600/5.6. Well, the 600/4 is somewhat longer and ~over~ twice as heavy, so its tripod requirements are a lot more substantial. While both lenses have the same FL, the ~much~ lighter 600/5.6 will tax a tripod's stability significantly less. Related to this is the fact that I can do a reasonably good job of hand-holding the 600/5.6 under bright light conditions, but I doubt that I could ever support the 600/4 without a year's worth of weight training at the local gym - g. The 1.4X-L converter should work great though. I do agree with that point. Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident My photo lab has a sign up warning customers that they've experienced problems with APS film being fogged by X-ray security machines, but not other film types. I'll ask them for more info next time I'm there. Could it have something to do with the magnetic layer on APS films? Not likely. Could it be because APS uses a plastic cassette instead of metal, like 35mm? If so, 120 film should also be fogged This is the likely culprit. The steel film can is pretty X-Ray opaque, with damage coming in via the felt lips and the plastic spool. APS canisters are X-Ray transparent. They are barely visible light tight at best anyway. I would be very hesitant to trust the word of a security goon about the potential damage from any radiation exuding inspection device. They are not trained professionals, they are merely parroting the baboonery from their bureaucrat bosses, who generally take the best case scenario from the manufacturer of the equipment and call it the worst case scenario. Unfortunately with the present level of paranoia, the traveling photographer is best advised to buy his film and processing at the destination, whenever possible, no matter how it impacts the economies of the photographer and his home processing lab. There has never been a guarantee that inspection equipment will not damage film, the damage is cumulative, and is most likely to happen to film that has already been exposed. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New images on web
I bought a slide scanner about 2 weeks ago and have just updated my web site with some newly scanned images. The new images are under the Birds gallery. The other gallery pages still have the old images and will be updated in the near future. -- David S. Nature and wildlife photography http://www.sheppardphotos.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Mini update on PDML UK 2002 web site
Getting a bit closer now - a week on Saturday! If you're anywhere near Cambridge, England, on Saturday July 13th, come along to the Flying Legends Airshow at Duxford. Details below. I've put a little update on the web site, nothing much. Hope to have a big update within a week. http://www.macads.co.uk/pdml/ Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads http://www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Advantage of small f/number!
Hi, Suppose I have a 300 mm f/5.6 lens. What film speed should I use in order to stop the action as well as attaining good depth of focus (say, 4 m) in an artificially illuminated stadium? If your subject is 2m in height then to fill the frame using a 300mm lens you must be 17m away. To achieve a depth of field of about 4m your aperture must be at f/16. On a bright day you can do this with ISO 400 film at 1/500 second. According to Michael Freeman in his book Light all stadiums that have TV coverage use multi-vapour lamps, because these produce a colour quality close to normal daylight. He suggests that for ISO 400 film at 1/60 or 1/125 you will need an aperture of f/2.8. So to achieve a depth of field of 4m your film needs to be rated at 12,800. However, most of the photographers are probably using digital cameras, so these calculations may not apply. For example, a nominal 300mm lens is effectively longer than that, and the f-stop ratio is changed, so there may be more depth-of-field than I've indicated. These numbers are for 35mm. --- Bob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Spotmatic SP1000 top removal
On 1 Jul 2002 at 9:49, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: These funny screws are used on lots of different Pentax cameras, and I've found an easy way to remove them I thought I'd share with anyone interested. I take a paperclip, then bend it so that both ends are straight, parallel, and spaced the same distance apart as the two holes in the top of the silver screw. I then insert the ends of the bent paperclip into the holes in the screw, pushing in as far as the wire ends will go. I then grasp these two ends of the paperclip wires firmly in the jaws of a pair of needle-nose pliers, at a point as close as possible to the head of the screw. I can then rotate the screw without bending the wire ends of the paperclip. Works OK for me -- hopefully it may work for others as well. Hi Bill, I use the paper clip method too, cut the clip with flush wire cutters then file the ends smooth, OK for the cap on the advance lever. However in the case of the screw in the middle of the shutter speed dial the holes are so small that if you could find a paper clip of the correct diameter the material would readily deform hence the use of drills. If you use a vice grip in conjunction with drills of paper clips then you can ensure that the assembly will stay rigid and correctly spaced. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident
That does bring up an interesting point about the 120/220, though: Nothing to shield it. What have people's experiences been with that getting scanned at airports? t On 7/1/02 3:08 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident My photo lab has a sign up warning customers that they've experienced problems with APS film being fogged by X-ray security machines, but not other film types. I'll ask them for more info next time I'm there. Could it have something to do with the magnetic layer on APS films? Not likely. Could it be because APS uses a plastic cassette instead of metal, like 35mm? If so, 120 film should also be fogged This is the likely culprit. The steel film can is pretty X-Ray opaque, with damage coming in via the felt lips and the plastic spool. APS canisters are X-Ray transparent. They are barely visible light tight at best anyway. I would be very hesitant to trust the word of a security goon about the potential damage from any radiation exuding inspection device. They are not trained professionals, they are merely parroting the baboonery from their bureaucrat bosses, who generally take the best case scenario from the manufacturer of the equipment and call it the worst case scenario. Unfortunately with the present level of paranoia, the traveling photographer is best advised to buy his film and processing at the destination, whenever possible, no matter how it impacts the economies of the photographer and his home processing lab. There has never been a guarantee that inspection equipment will not damage film, the damage is cumulative, and is most likely to happen to film that has already been exposed. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:44:00 +0100, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: Go to: http://www.outertech.com/news.php?news=23PHPSESSID=93ff98990fdc63e637e6e639146f26b5 On my machine, Cache Manager made _everything_ worse. Every program I use would randomly crash with out of memory errors. It really blew Faddish mind. I gave up after two days of forgetting hell. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fwd: Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:44:00 +0100, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: Go to: http://www.outertech.com/news.php?news=23PHPSESSID=93ff98990fdc63e637e6e639146f26b5 On my machine, Cache Manager made _everything_ worse. Every program I use would randomly crash with out of memory errors. It really blew Faddish mind. I gave up after two days of forgetting hell. :-) ^^^ That's supposed to be Photoshop's ... something went terribly wrong during the spell check. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:24:50 +0100, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: I thought Vuescan does support [FARE], but then again I don't have this scanner. It claims to, and it will let you select scratch removal from the menus, and it even does the IR pass of the image ... then it craps up the image ... that's the origin of the sepia toning on my machine, I think. I haven't tried it without FARE because that's a big part of why I bought this scanner. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: JOHN TITTERINGTON
Could I please have his contact info ? J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hes being doing my spotmatics for years with great results. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JOHN TITTERINGTON Does anyone have a personal, and, hopefully, recent experience with John (please limit it to fixing cameras :=)? Regards, Alex - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Carry-on inspection of film -- and an unfortunate incident
On 1 Jul 2002 at 12:58, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Mike Nosal wrote: My photo lab has a sign up warning customers that they've experienced problems with APS film being fogged by X-ray security machines, but not other film types. I'll ask them for more info next time I'm there. Could it have something to do with the magnetic layer on APS films? From what I understand APS film is manufactured with a magnetic coating over it's entire photosensitive surface it is also a different base material than used for 120 or 135 films polyethylene naphthalate (PEN). Whether the backing affects the films x-ray susceptibility I don't know however the fact that they have a plastic near x-ray transparent shell may. I can't vouch for the susceptibility of 120 films to carry-on x-ray exposure as I have managed to avoid their exposure by having them processed before flying. When I shot APS in my travels I managed to carry it on my person through the metal detectors without a problem so I didn't have to subject it to x-ray inspection. I would guess that had I done so the damage would have been visible considering the number of times my other gear was x-rayed. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Canon FS4000 film scanner
On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 21:50:59 +0100, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: Well, with Vuescan, available from http://www.hamrick.com you can do batch scanning without using Photoshop or another program, But VueScan won't do FARE (IR Scratch Removal). Plus, I couldn't get anything that looked good ... every VueScan scan I did came out sepia toned. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: JOHN TITTERINGTON
Sure. It is, out of places, there: http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html Alex -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of smcforme Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JOHN TITTERINGTON Could I please have his contact info ? J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hes being doing my spotmatics for years with great results. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JOHN TITTERINGTON Does anyone have a personal, and, hopefully, recent experience with John (please limit it to fixing cameras :=)? Regards, Alex - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . Sign-up for Video Highlights of 2002 FIFA World Cup - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Any optical engineers w/zone VI spot meters know this?
- Original Message - From: Sid Barras [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: Any optical engineers w/zone VI spot meters know this? Hi Sid; Sorry to take so long to respond. I aimed my Zone VI modified Pentax Digital Spotmeter, and chose a neutral gray area (the street in front of my house). I metered it with no filter, and with a #87 IR cut filter. I got a 7 stop drop with my meter. Is is possible you are getting light leakage around your filter? Also, it is entirely possible that you don't have a modified meter. Does your meter have the Modified by ZoneVI Studios plaque cemented to it or does it just have the zone sticker on the dial? William Robb Hi all, I've been attempting to establish an accurate exposure index for Kodak HIE by using my Zone VI spot meter with an 89b opaque filter in front of the lens. I establish a zone 'V'ish location in the scene to be photographed, like a patch of green grass, and I take a spot reading with and without the 89b filter. Strangely enough, the readings only drop about one stop when I read the same scene with the filter. This violates all my known (allbeit limited) sensibilities about what should happen. If this filter is blocking everything below around 720nmm, and this filter is altered for zone system use by limiting everything above and below (approxmately) visual range, the reading I get should fall tremendously. Obviously the meter does not trap every range above and below visual light; so what is happening here? Is it an important consideration? My goal is not to understand quantum physics, simply have a more accurate way of establishing exposure for a film that defies, or seems to defie, indexing. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred or see if I can get by with nothing at all between 55 and 135mm (to simplify my life) No, Paul, that just won't work. Forget about it. Don't even think about it. Fred He *said* don't think about it. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Manual Zoom?
I would recommend MX or ME Super with SMC PENTAX-A 35-105/3.5. The viewfinder of Super A/Program is relatively dim and small. regards, Alan Chan My friend who is new to photography has decided to go manual focus for now. She wears glasses and doesn't like the viewfinders of the ZX-50, ZX-30, ZX-L, and ZX5n. Her budget doesn't permit her to go with an MZ-S or pro body in another brand for autofocus so she is going to buy a SuperProgram. She will get an A 50 f2.0 with it. She really wants a zoom so I am trying to recommend a good all rounder. I think something in the 28-80, 35-80, or 28/35-105 might be best? What are opinions on the following possibilities? A 28-80 f3.5/4.5 A 28--135 f4.0 A 35-105 f3.5 A 35-70 f4.0 K 45-125 f4.0 What is the best? What to avoid, etc? Other suggestions?? Thanks for any input. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
85mm is the perfect bridge between 50 and 135. YOU MUST buy a 85mm lens... jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fred or see if I can get by with nothing at all between 55 and 135mm (to simplify my life) No, Paul, that just won't work. Forget about it. Don't even think about it. Fred He *said* don't think about it. tv - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FA: PZ-1 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1363495334 anyone interested its going for about $220 US - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA: PZ-1 on ebay
But the picture looks more like PZ-10. regards, Alan Chan _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LowePro Dryzone 200
Hello all... I'm semi-seriously shopping around for a photo backpack; the recent thread on this topic was very informative. I had narrowed it down to a Micro Trekker 200 or an Orion, but during my research, I noticed LowePro has a new pack coming out that appears to be waterproof: the Dryzone 200. http://www.lowepro.com For my purposes, this would be perfect. Right now, I use a wet/dry bag around a camera bag while canoeing. While it keeps my gear dry, It's not ideal for accessing my gear. Pelican cases are another option, but I think I'd look ridiculous with one strapped to my back! Apparently, the Dryzone bag hasn't hit the street yet. But I'm curious to see if anyone seen it or handled it at a trade show or dealer demo. What about prices and construction? TIA, Tim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Manual Zoom?
- Original Message - From: Robert Woerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] My friend who is new to photography has decided to go manual focus for now. She wears glasses and doesn't like the viewfinders of the ZX-50, ZX-30, ZX-L, and ZX5n. Her budget doesn't permit her to go with an MZ-S or pro body in another brand for autofocus so she is going to buy a SuperProgram. She will get an A 50 f2.0 with it. She really wants a zoom so I am trying to recommend a good all rounder. I think something in the 28-80, 35-80, or 28/35-105 might be best? What are opinions on the following possibilities? A 28-80 f3.5/4.5 A 28--135 f4.0 A 35-105 f3.5 A 35-70 f4.0 K 45-125 f4.0 What is the best? What to avoid, etc? Other suggestions?? Thanks for any input. Robert - The 2 best in order of preference are the 35-105 and the 45-125. All, I believe, are 2 touch except the 45-125 which is easier to use but is the longest or the lot. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: PZ-1 on ebay
Looks like a PZ-20 to me, but I can be wrong... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of wayne master of jelly Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FA: PZ-1 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1363495334 anyone interested its going for about $220 US - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FA: PZ-1 on ebay
In a message dated 7/1/2002 10:27:37 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: anyone interested its going for about $220 US and Alan Chan commented, But the picture looks more like PZ-10. The description sounds more like a PZ-1p -- fewer Pentax functions and the built-in flash provides exposure compensation and autobracketing. ERNR My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 85mm is the perfect bridge between 50 and 135. YOU MUST buy a 85mm lens... jco And then. a 105 K and perhaps a 120 K. The bridge will get stronger. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
65mm Lens Missing in Action
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Rapp Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 11:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149 - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 85mm is the perfect bridge between 50 and 135. YOU MUST buy a 85mm lens... jco And then. a 105 K and perhaps a 120 K. The bridge will get stronger. Bob But the missing link is between the 50 and the 85mm, there is no 65mm lens! :( JCO - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Which Manual Zoom?
Hi! I think that 28-135 mm f/4 is the best option because of the range focal length one gets and also the maximum aperture do not change when the lens is zoomed in. This is great advantage. Why? Because, this lens can be used with automatic flash units because one can set the aperture precisely in any focal length. Please notice that the maximum aperture changes in the case of A28-80mm f/3.5-4.5 and therefore flash photography becomes difficult since you never know the aperture when the lens focal length is set between 28 and 80 mm. Hope it helps. - Ayash. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Robert Woerner wrote: What are opinions on the following possibilities? A 28-80 f3.5/4.5 A 28--135 f4.0 A 35-105 f3.5 A 35-70 f4.0 K 45-125 f4.0 What is the best? What to avoid, etc? Other suggestions?? Thanks for any input. Robert - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
On Behalf Of Fred or see if I can get by with nothing at all between 55 and 135mm (to simplify my life) No, Paul, that just won't work. Forget about it. Don't even think about it. Fred He *said* don't think about it. ??? (~I~ said Don't even think about it, Tom - I'm not sure what you mean.) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
85mm is the perfect bridge between 50 and 135. YOU MUST buy a 85mm lens... Absolutely. And, you never can have too many 85mm lenses... ...even if you also have a few 100-ish macro lenses... ;-) Fred - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Hi! I understand your point quite well now. I liked the term funneled down that you used in your explanation. Many thanks, Bill. With best regards, Ayash. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Ayash Kanto Mukherjee wrote: You are absolutely right in your point. I know that quite well. The f-number is defined as the ratio of focal length to the diameter of the aperture (Am I correct?). Yep - so the light-gathering of the bigger front element will get funneled down to the same as the f4 when stopped down to f4 But I am talking about the preliminary intensity of light reaching the film plane because of the wider diameter of the front element in the case of 50 mm f/1.4. The intensity of the source doesn't enter into things. Unless it differs between the time you use the f1.4 and the time you use the f4, an autometering system will give the same shutter speed at any given f-stop. Things do look brighter in the viewfinder w/ the f1.4, but when stopped down this disappears. Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8
or see if I can get by with nothing at all between 55 and 135mm (to simplify my life) the best fill-in between a 50mm and a 135mm is a 6x7 with the 135mm macro, the 150mm f2.8 and the 200mm f4 !8^DBill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
right, the one Cotty is selling -- although i am nost sure one can get a mortgage for this vbg mishka From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149 Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:49:10 -0700 85mm is the perfect bridge between 50 and 135. YOU MUST buy a 85mm lens... jco Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
I have a PKA Vivitar version of this lens -- it is fantastic and is worth every penny. If anyone is looking for 1:1 a macro lens -- this is the one. The only downside is the wrong direction of focusing (don't know about Kiron though). No, I don't expect comissions on this sale :) Mishka Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re[2]: Advantage of small f/number!
Hi! It is quite an informative email. I never knew the details of the lighting in a stadium until I recieved your mail. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Bob Walkden wrote: Hi, According to Michael Freeman in his book Light all stadiums that have TV coverage use multi-vapour lamps, because these produce a colour quality close to normal daylight. He suggests that for ISO 400 film at 1/60 or 1/125 you will need an aperture of f/2.8. So, it means that 400 ISO film is not enough. One has to use atleast 1600 ISO film provided that the lens in use is 300 mm f/5.6. So to achieve a depth of field of 4m your film needs to be rated at 12,800. I am shattered. However, most of the photographers are probably using digital cameras, so these calculations may not apply. For example, a nominal 300mm lens is effectively longer than that, and the f-stop ratio is changed, so there may be more depth-of-field than I've indicated. These numbers are for 35mm. Aah! those DIGI-guys are always at an advantage but I don't want to go DIGI. Many thanks for your comment. With best regards, Ayash. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 65mm Lens Missing in Action
JCO wrote: But the missing link is between the 50 and the 85mm, there is no 65mm lens! :( Again - that's where the 6x7 and the 135mm macro fit in !8^D Bill - Bill D. Casselberry ; Photography on the Oregon Coast http://www.orednet.org/~bcasselb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Hi Joe! So, you mean that professional photographer are shooting all the time at f/2.8 and hence they possess those lenses becuase they really need that aperture only. Yes, you are right that a monopod will make the life much easier under such situation. Many thanks for your helpful comments. With best regards, Ayash. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Joseph Tainter wrote: In regard to shooting a teletphoto lens in a stadium. I would recommend investing in a monopod to steady your shots. With a monopod you can gain 1 or 2 EV over hand-held. For example, a 300 mm. lens should be shot at 1/350. With the monopod, you might go to 1/180 or even 1/90. If the professional photographer with an f2.8 lens shoots 1/350 at f2.8, you could shoot 1/90 at f5.6 and save a great deal of money (that is, by buying an f5.6 lens rather than one that opens to f2.8). Joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
OT:Gossen Multi-Beam spot attachment
I have a Gossen Luna Pro SBC and am thinking about finding a Multibeam spot meter attachment for it. Has anyone used one of these? Does it work well enough that you could recommend buying one over buying a separate spotmeter for travel use? Obviously size and weight are a consideration. Since the SBC is large enough as it is, maybe you could recommend a combination meter that does spot, reflectance and ambient in one, that is as reliable and battery thrifty as the SBC, yet smaller. Oh yeah and it has to do low light as well as the SBC and not cost muchThat's not asking for too much is it? g So back to reality; what do you think of the Multibeam? New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free unlimited access - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Advantage of small f/number!
Hi Giafranco! I visited the websites that you have mentioned and can understand the position from where you took the shot. I was suspecting from the beginning that it should be some sort of hilltop because the skycrappers in your photograph look small but I never knew that there is castle with rich history. A great view as if you are on the top of the world and can see rest of the world. I can feel the sensation when somebody goes at such a place. As far as the 50 mm lens problem is concerned, I have understood well now. So, I won't feel much sorry, if I don't have a small f-number lens. Or should I feel sorry? Am I missing something? Thank you so much for such a nice and informative reply. With best regards, Ayash. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote: Hi Ayash, I took the picture from one of the windows of Castel Sant'Elmo, which is one of the four castles of Naples, the only one built on the hill. Built during the 16th Century on the site of a former, smaller, castle, Castel Sant'Elmo became a prison in the 18th Century until the 1952. It is now a museum and there is kept the photographic archive of the Cultural Superintendence of Naples. You can see many pictures of the castle at: http://progetti.webscuola.it/progetti2000/790/CastelSantElmo.html Too bad the page is in Italian only, but you can clearly see the vault windows I took the picture from. There's a nice but small picture at: http://www.medcruise.com/napo/f01_napo.html The castle is the higher building on the background. The view I took is from the right side (facing NE). I have some doubts regarding lenses with small f-numbers. Suppose you have two lenses, one is 50 mm f/4 and the other is 50 mm f/1.4. If, I stop down the second lens to f/4, which one will give faster shutter speed for correct exposure? The speed will be the same, if you don't change anything: if you compare f/4 of both lenses you'll see that the area enclosed into the diaphragm of the stopped down f/1.4 lens is the same of the aperture of the f/4 lens wide open. Ciao, Gianfranco = Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 65mm Lens Missing in Action
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the missing link is between the 50 and the 85mm, there is no 65mm lens! :( JCO 55 f1.8 or someone else's 58? Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Gossen Multi-Beam spot attachment
- Original Message - From: smcforme [EMAIL PROTECTED] So back to reality; what do you think of the Multibeam? New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free unlimited access - I HAD to have a spot attachment for my old Luna Pro... Just had to! Then my first spotmeter soon followed after. I was cleaning house and came across it last year and found that the mirror had lost it's silvering at the edges - it had been used once! At the end of the day, it was an expensive attachment that I had to have and it provided no useful help at all. Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 65mm Lens Missing in Action
But the missing link is between the 50 and the 85mm, there is no 65mm lens! :( Doesn't Nikon make a 65mm macro? I have a 65mm Angulon... William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149
- Original Message - From: Fred Subject: Re: FS: Kiron 105/2.8 PK 1:1 macro lens, $149 Absolutely. And, you never can have too many 85mm lenses... But more than one 77mm is overkill. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LowePro Dryzone 200
On 1 Jul 2002 at 20:37, Timothy Sherburne wrote: For my purposes, this would be perfect. Right now, I use a wet/dry bag around a camera bag while canoeing. While it keeps my gear dry, It's not ideal for accessing my gear. Pelican cases are another option, but I think I'd look ridiculous with one strapped to my back! Hi Tim, I have the Photo Trekker and a heap of Underwater Kinetics and Pelican case to house my gear, the hard cases aren't real good to trek with however they'll take a gargantuan spill in a canoe :-) Lowepro do have a hard case that fits into a back pack (Omni Trekker) but its huge and heavy. I fit a pair of LX with 3 short lenses and a long lens (100 macro), folding finder plus my Mamiya 7 with two lenses, finder and Gossen meter apart from film and other goodies (I have a pic if you'd like to see how they squash in). The DryZone 200 looks to be only a bit smaller than the PhotoTrekker. Apparently, the Dryzone bag hasn't hit the street yet. But I'm curious to see if anyone seen it or handled it at a trade show or dealer demo. What about prices and construction? For my money the Lowepro gear is worth the cash, the back pack seem to fit pretty well and they're tough, I've ended up on my butt a few times and scraped it pretty badly and it's come through well. Also I always clean my gear after a grubby excursion and the first thing is a good swamping under the hose, if the zips are down up I can give it a drenching before it's wet inside and mine isn't even an AW, so I'd expect that they'd perform as advertised. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 65mm Lens Missing in Action
On 1 Jul 2002 at 23:27, William Robb wrote: Doesn't Nikon make a 65mm macro? I have a 65mm Angulon... I had a CZ 65mm macro, nice bit of gear went to 1:1 without tubes :-) Also soon to have a 65mm for my Mamiya (blasphemer I know :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:Gossen Multi-Beam spot attachment
Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end of the day, it was an expensive attachment that I had to have and it provided no useful help at all. Bummer... What specifically made you dislike it so much that you bought a proper spotmeter instead? Marcus New! SBC Yahoo! Dial - 1st Month Free unlimited access - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LowePro Dryzone 200
At 20:37 1.7.2002 -0700, Tim wrote: I'm semi-seriously shopping around for a photo backpack; the recent thread on this topic was very informative. I had narrowed it down to a Micro Trekker 200 or an Orion, but during my research, I noticed LowePro has a new pack coming out that appears to be waterproof: the Dryzone 200. Thanks for the info. I have been looking for a new backpack for quite some time with no real success and now Lowe seems to have made the perfect pack especially for watersports/sailing :-) It just makes me wonder if they will extend the DryZone series to slightly bigger bags as well ... On the other hand, the 200 seems to be quite a perfect size for a portable photo kit with the interior size slightly larger than the Nature Trekker AW. Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 * - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .