Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-04 Thread Alek Kozak
But the fact is it all depends on people not a company. Nevertheless such
persons should not work for any big company.
Instead of giving you correct information she/he was rude. What a guy! If
she/he did not know the answer he/she should call Pentax service or
somewhere.
Pity.
But when you set any lens on non-A position you should expect some
overexposure with you PZ1p!
Cheers
Alek
- Original Message -
From: Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension
tube question.


 Not only did the tech not know about extension tubes, but he was arrogant,
 as well.  I've never had to call them about anything before, but when you
 get that kind of treatment for just asking a simple question (including
not
 getting an answer), I'm sorry I invested in their equipment at all.  In
 addition, I phoned them on Friday at about 10:00 a.m. their time.  He told
 me that they were closing for the day in 2 hours (nice hours for customer
 service), and maybe they would call me back on Monday if someone knew the
 answer to my question.

 Kathy L.
 - Original Message -
 From: Alek Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension
 tube question.


  It is very strange, indeed. Another field where Pentax does not care
about
  clients.
  And the stuff...Uhhh
  Cheers
  Alek
  - Original Message -
  From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension
  tube question.
 
 
   The Pentax tubes lack the electrical contacts needed for the body and
 lens
   to communicate.  In this case, the term auto in the tubes' name
means
   that they support open aperture metering, but that's all. They don't
   support program modes when the lens is set to A and the camera will
   default to center weighted and spot metering only, no matrix mode.
But,
   when the aperture is manually set the metering should be accurate.
  
   I have a pair of Vivitar extension tubes that do have both the
aperture
   coupling and the contacts, and I'd suspect other third party brands
are
  out
   there that also support the full functionality.
  
   I'm surprised that no one at Pentax understood how their tubes work,
and
   I've long wondered why Pentax has not updated their brand of extension
  tubes.
  
   Hope this helps -
  
   MCC
  
   At 12:28 PM 8/1/2003 -0400, Kathleen wrote:
   I'm really disappointed that the Pentax people couldn't answer a
simple
 =
   question about their own (Pentax) extension tubes with their own
camera
 =
   (PZ-1p).
   
   I just got Extension Tube Set B (Auto) made by Pentax from KEH.  They
   are in great shape, except when I try to use them, the only
information
   that shows in the viewfinder is the shutter speed.  Where the F-stop
   should appear, there is just a blank.  This happens whether I am in
   automatic or manual mode.  Also, the autofocus won't work (which I
   really don't care about because I focus manually most of the time
   anyway).






Re: Further Australian *ist-D update

2003-08-04 Thread Leon Altoff
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:25:54 -0700, Alan Chan wrote:

From the CR Kennedy website:

ARRIVING SOON PENTAX *ist D

This 6.1 effective megapixel digital SLR is scheduled for a late September
release, with an estimated retail price of $3000.

That's about the same as the local price for a 10-D (Body only).

Wasn't it supposed to be late August. That is one month different...

I saw the update on CR Kennedy's site.  I wonder if it is in response
to my monthly phone calls asking for details on pricing and
availability.

I personally would like to use it early September, but it doesn't look
like I will get the chance.  Oh well, it's a good thing I like film and
am not afraid to burn it.


 Leon

http://www.bluering.org.au
http://www.bluering.org.au/leon




Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-04 Thread T Rittenhouse
OTOH, current auto mechanics don't know much about carburetors these days.
Also, did she actually talk to a tech, or just some front office person?
Extension tubes are really relics from before macro lenes, probably the only
reason Pentax is still selling them at all is they continue to have a bunch
in the warehouse. Hence, no auto focus version.

Ciao,
Graywolf
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- Original Message -
From: Alek Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension
tube question.


 It is very strange, indeed. Another field where Pentax does not care about
 clients.
 And the stuff...Uhhh
 Cheers
 Alek



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Re: Further Australian *ist-D update

2003-08-04 Thread T Rittenhouse
As far as I know, the release date is still late (very late) August in the
US. Non-disclosure agreement is now supposed to end this upcoming Friday
(8/8/03), so look at the digital sites then. However, the *istD is
supposedly heavily backordered and it will probably be hard to get one
before Christmas (my guess).

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Further Australian *ist-D update


 From the CR Kennedy website:
 
 ARRIVING SOON PENTAX *ist D
 
 This 6.1 effective megapixel digital SLR is scheduled for a late
September
 release, with an estimated retail price of $3000.
 
 That's about the same as the local price for a 10-D (Body only).

 Wasn't it supposed to be late August. That is one month different...



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I neglected to post prices for SALE items . . .

2003-08-04 Thread Lindamood, Mark
shift $500 

28-105PZ $120

24K $190 (w/ original hard case)

20FA$350 (new, w/ case)

135FA   $185

Macro   $230 (w/ hard case)

MZ-S $600

MZ-s timer release - $100

Or best offer  applies to everything.  I assure you all this stuff is in new 
condition.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mark



Re: OT: Chemistry Q's

2003-08-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Mark -
I had very simple darkroom procedures when I was doing it -  much of the
stuff you list I can't comment on, but Microdol-X , diluted 1:3 at 75 degrees
F,
15 minutes was my developer of choice for Tri-X.

Saw a show up in Amesbury Mass lats year of all HOLGA work - kinda interesting.

annsan




OT: digital single use camera

2003-08-04 Thread Butch Black
It happened.

Ritz camera announced it will soon be selling a digital single use camera.
Digital Photography Review report:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03073101dakotadigital.asp

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hess (Demian)




Re: OT: digital single use camera

2003-08-04 Thread gfen
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Butch Black wrote:
 Ritz camera announced it will soon be selling a digital single use camera.
 Digital Photography Review report:
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03073101dakotadigital.asp

The geeks will be all over this, in a month they'll be re-selling 2mp
cameras with cables on ebay for $30. In six, Ritz will pull them because
no one will really care about them over a cheap disposable film, and the
massive profits lost because of how many of them never come back from the
kids going nuts on them.

Kinda like those stupid barcode scanners Radioshack used to give away.

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Re: Further Australian *ist-D update

2003-08-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:25:54 -0700, Alan Chan wrote:

From the CR Kennedy website:

ARRIVING SOON PENTAX *ist D

This 6.1 effective megapixel digital SLR is scheduled for a late September
release, with an estimated retail price of $3000.

That's about the same as the local price for a 10-D (Body only).

Wasn't it supposed to be late August. That is one month different...

I saw the update on CR Kennedy's site.  I wonder if it is in response
to my monthly phone calls asking for details on pricing and
availability.

The information embargo date has been moved *up* - to Aug 8. We should
know more on Friday :)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-04 Thread Mark Roberts
Alek Kozak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

But when you set any lens on non-A position you should expect some
overexposure with you PZ1p!

Why should this be the case? My PZ-1p exposes fine on or off the A
position.

-- 
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Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: Chemistry Q's

2003-08-04 Thread Mark Cassino
At 11:33 PM 8/3/2003 -0600, you wrote:

 Farmer's Reducer:

Neat chimical. I think it has some pretty noxious stuff in it, some compound
of cyanide comes to mind, probably an iron compound (fericyanide??).
It actually reduces the total silver content of the negative, bit tends to
increase contrast as well, since the low density parts of the image are
affected faster.
There seems to be a common thread of high contrast in this stuff.  He also 
had some Kalt special effects film (ISO - 6) and Title film.


 Kodak Film Cleaner:
Basic film cleaner, most are trichlorethylene or some such. Always wipe in a
straight line along the film, don't wipe in circles.
Is it for the emulsion side, non-emulsion side, or both?

I've cleaned slides and negs on the non-emulsion slide with just a drop of 
distilled water on a swab. Seems safer


 Potassium Dichromate:

Gum dichromate printing. I tried it when I was a kid in high school.
The potassium dichromate is light sensitive, and you make an emulsion using
it, gelatin and watecolour pigment.
The emulsion is brushed onto watercolour paper that has been cured in a
gelatin/formalin solution, then contact printed.
After the exposure, generally a half hour or so in daylight, the print is
soaked in several changes of water. The parts that are exposed have
hardened, and the pigment stays, the unexposed parts are not hardened, and
the pigment washes out.
It is a process that dates back to the late 1800s.
Cool.  That explains the packets of Knox gelatin that were with the 
Potassium Dichromate.

 Moving through the process -  there are bottles of Rapid Fixer A and Rapid
 Fixer B.
Part A is ammonium thosulphate, which is basic fixer. I can't remember what
the part B is made from, but it is the hardener. Use the part A, and dispose
of the part B according to local regulations. Modern black and white
materials don't benefit from hardening anyway.
Yes, the bottle of Fixer-B is labelled as a hardener.  The warnings on the 
bottle concern sulpheric acid and the attendant problems

 I have one envelope of Hypo clear.  Of course, it holds enough hypo powder
 to make 5 gallons of solution.
Sift the powder into a mixing bowl, then measure how many teaspoons of
powder there are. Divide the powder into 5 equal amounts and store each
portion in a Baggie.
I've been told that a lot of photo chemicals in bags are like a cake mix - 
different dry chemicals dumped into the bag but not mixed up uniformly - 
making it all but impossible to get decent results by dividing the dry 
chemisty.  Is hypo a homogenous chemical or do I have to really mix it up 
before dividing it.

Any of the cyanude compounds should probably be dealt with as a hazardous
material.
Yeah - definitely!

Thanks Bill !

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Re: OT: digital single use camera

2003-08-04 Thread Boris Liberman
IMHO, digital single use camera is oxymoron... Not trying to start a 
flame though...

Boris



Web Photo Gallery

2003-08-04 Thread wendy beard
From discussion under Postcards from Colmars thread

 I need to learn who to knock up such pages with PhotoShop. I do mine
 manually sigh.
In PS6 there is a menu option File - Automate - Web Photo Gallery...
which makes it very easy.
I'm a bit dim when it comes to this sort of stuff. Is it possible to 
include an add copyright text action to this automation?
Or is the whole thing something which would have to be an action after the 
gallery was created and applied to the larger web images (not the thumbnails).

tia
Wendy
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com



Re: Web Photo Gallery

2003-08-04 Thread Mark Roberts
wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From discussion under Postcards from Colmars thread

  I need to learn who to knock up such pages with PhotoShop. I do mine
  manually sigh.


In PS6 there is a menu option File - Automate - Web Photo Gallery...
which makes it very easy.

I'm a bit dim when it comes to this sort of stuff. Is it possible to 
include an add copyright text action to this automation?

Sure. There are text boxes for you to add Site Name, Photographer
and Date, but you can put any text into them.

Or is the whole thing something which would have to be an action after the 
gallery was created and applied to the larger web images (not the thumbnails).

You can do it that way too. I edit all my photo gallery pages after
creation. I use a free text editor called EditPad that can apply find
and replace actions over multiple documents with one action.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



FS: Remaining Stuff

2003-08-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Most of the stuff is gone.  Here are the remaining items.  Let me know
if you have any interest, please let me know.  I will entertain
offers.

MX - Chrome - recent CLA, CameraLeather.com Gray Lizard Skin -
Everything works great - body in bargain+ condition - asking $130

SuperProgram - Everything works great, body in Execellent+ condition -
asking $125

FA* 85/1.4 - KEH EX+, Glass is pristine.  Includes original caps and
Promaster UV filter.  Asking $500

FA 100/2.8 Macro - KEH EX+, Glass is pristine. Includes original caps
and Hoya HMC UV filter.  Asking $350


Thanks,


 Bruce




Re: Chemistry Q's

2003-08-04 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Cassino

Subject: Re: Chemistry Q's



 There seems to be a common thread of high contrast in this stuff.  He also
 had some Kalt special effects film (ISO - 6) and Title film.

Both of those are kissing cousins to lithographic film.

  
   Kodak Film Cleaner:
 
 Basic film cleaner, most are trichlorethylene or some such. Always wipe
in a
 straight line along the film, don't wipe in circles.

 Is it for the emulsion side, non-emulsion side, or both?

For both sides. The stuff is great at taking fresh finger prints off of the
emulsion, so keep it around for the inevitable screw up.


 I've cleaned slides and negs on the non-emulsion slide with just a drop of
 distilled water on a swab. Seems safer

Yer a pansy I dump em into a sink of soapy water and wash em that
way.


 Sift the powder into a mixing bowl, then measure how many teaspoons of
 powder there are. Divide the powder into 5 equal amounts and store each
 portion in a Baggie.

 I've been told that a lot of photo chemicals in bags are like a cake mix -
 different dry chemicals dumped into the bag but not mixed up uniformly -
 making it all but impossible to get decent results by dividing the dry
 chemisty.  Is hypo a homogenous chemical or do I have to really mix it up
 before dividing it.

I would mix it on general principles, thats why I mentioned sifting the
stuff, though I am pretty sure it is a homogenous product.

 Any of the cyanide compounds should probably be dealt with as a hazardous
 material.

 Yeah - definitely!

If you live near a Great Lake, just dump it in. Thats what the big boys do.
(I wish I was kidding)

William Robb



Re: Chemistry Q's

2003-08-04 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Sifting the powder is not a good idea. There are nasty organic components in
many developers that are carcinogenic. Unless you do this outside wearing a
rubber suit, gloves, full face mask and have a positive pressure feed of
filtered air to breathe. Do I need funny faces? But seriously -- the powder
is often very fine and may float around the room in an invisible cloud.

D
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Updated: July 31, 2003


- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Chemistry Q's



 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Cassino

 Subject: Re: Chemistry Q's


 
  There seems to be a common thread of high contrast in this stuff.  He
also
  had some Kalt special effects film (ISO - 6) and Title film.

 Both of those are kissing cousins to lithographic film.
 
   
Kodak Film Cleaner:
  
  Basic film cleaner, most are trichlorethylene or some such. Always wipe
 in a
  straight line along the film, don't wipe in circles.
 
  Is it for the emulsion side, non-emulsion side, or both?

 For both sides. The stuff is great at taking fresh finger prints off of
the
 emulsion, so keep it around for the inevitable screw up.

 
  I've cleaned slides and negs on the non-emulsion slide with just a drop
of
  distilled water on a swab. Seems safer

 Yer a pansy I dump em into a sink of soapy water and wash em that
 way.


  Sift the powder into a mixing bowl, then measure how many teaspoons of
  powder there are. Divide the powder into 5 equal amounts and store each
  portion in a Baggie.
 
  I've been told that a lot of photo chemicals in bags are like a cake
mix -
  different dry chemicals dumped into the bag but not mixed up uniformly -
  making it all but impossible to get decent results by dividing the dry
  chemisty.  Is hypo a homogenous chemical or do I have to really mix it
up
  before dividing it.

 I would mix it on general principles, thats why I mentioned sifting the
 stuff, though I am pretty sure it is a homogenous product.
 
  Any of the cyanide compounds should probably be dealt with as a
hazardous
  material.
 
  Yeah - definitely!

 If you live near a Great Lake, just dump it in. Thats what the big boys
do.
 (I wish I was kidding)

 William Robb





Re: 135 mm lens question

2003-08-04 Thread Fred
 If it is SMC K 135/2.5  it is very, very good lens, very fast
 albeit a little heavy. It is believed as a one of the best Pentax
 135mm lenses. Probably only A135/1.8 is better. Mine is like new,
 great built and very sharp. Highly recommended

I agree with every word that Alek has said.  I'm fortunate enough to
have an A* 135/1.8, but I am not willing to part with my K 135/2.5.

I would only add that, if instead it's the Takumar Bayonet
135/2.5, that it is a pretty decent lens, all things considering,
a little slower than the K 135/2.5, but usually a decent buy if you
aren't spending too much for it (and can tolerate the silly
multicolored markings on the barrel).

Fred




Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-04 Thread alexanderkrohe
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 06:50:20 -0400
From: Kathleen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Not only did the tech not know about extension
tubes, but he was 
 arrogant,
as well.  I've never had to call them about anything
before, but when 
 you
get that kind of treatment for just asking a simple
question (including 
 not
 getting an answer), I'm sorry I invested in their
equipment at all.  

The trouble is to get through to the right person. A
few month ago I odered a replacement rail for my slide
copier attachment.  

When I called Pentax they gave me answers like this :
I don't know what this is; we don't have it ; we
don't make it anymore ; it does exist only in Japan
etc. 

Finally I came through to a person who obviously was
something like a replacement part store keeping
manager who told me: of course we have it  ... I got
the rail the next day.   

The upshot from this is: Be nasty and insistent

In my impression their sales management is poorly
trained. Some of them don't seem to know much about
their own products. 

 In
addition, I phoned them on Friday at about 10:00 a.m.
their time.  He 
 told
me that they were closing for the day in 2 hours (nice
 hours for 
 customer
service), and maybe they would call me back on Monday
if someone knew 
 the
 answer to my question.
 
 Kathy L.


I think you would get the same kind of treatment by
many other companies these days. Service costs are
high with no ~immediate~ turn around. 

Alexander




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Re: OT: digital single use camera

2003-08-04 Thread T Rittenhouse
Actually, all you need to do is walk around a Wal-Mart photo department.
They have several digital cameras under $30. I think the cheapest is $18.95,
there is not a big jump from there to $10.99. No, they are not the ones tied
to the counter.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: OT: digital single use camera


 On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Butch Black wrote:
  Ritz camera announced it will soon be selling a digital single use
camera.
  Digital Photography Review report:
  http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03073101dakotadigital.asp

 The geeks will be all over this, in a month they'll be re-selling 2mp
 cameras with cables on ebay for $30. In six, Ritz will pull them because
 no one will really care about them over a cheap disposable film, and the
 massive profits lost because of how many of them never come back from the
 kids going nuts on them.

 Kinda like those stupid barcode scanners Radioshack used to give away.

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Re: OT: digital single use camera

2003-08-04 Thread Brendan
yeah 640x480 resolution, wow.

 --- T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Actually, all you need to do is walk around a
 Wal-Mart photo department.
 They have several digital cameras under $30. I think
 the cheapest is $18.95,
 there is not a big jump from there to $10.99. No,
 they are not the ones tied
 to the counter.
 
 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:34 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: digital single use camera
 
 
  On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Butch Black wrote:
   Ritz camera announced it will soon be selling a
 digital single use
 camera.
   Digital Photography Review report:
  

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03073101dakotadigital.asp
 
  The geeks will be all over this, in a month
 they'll be re-selling 2mp
  cameras with cables on ebay for $30. In six, Ritz
 will pull them because
  no one will really care about them over a cheap
 disposable film, and the
  massive profits lost because of how many of them
 never come back from the
  kids going nuts on them.
 
  Kinda like those stupid barcode scanners
 Radioshack used to give away.
 
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 than a poke in your
 eye.
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 photography and portfolio.
 
 
 
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TOPDML in September?

2003-08-04 Thread Pat White
Hi, gang, I'll be in the GTA for the first two weeks in September.  Any
chance of a get-together?  I'm committed to certain dates (family
birthdays), but I'll definitely have some time free.

Pat White




Re: Disappointed - Pentax technicians couldn't answer extension tube question.

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Chan
In my impression their sales management is poorly
trained. Some of them don't seem to know much about
their own products.
Sounds like a poorly managed company which relies on luck.

regards,
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Re: TOPDML in September?

2003-08-04 Thread frank theriault
I should be around, depending on whether I'll have kids on any given
weekend.  Other than that, I'll be pretty flexible, time-wise.

Hope to see ya, Pat!

cheers,
frank

Pat White wrote:

 Hi, gang, I'll be in the GTA for the first two weeks in September.  Any
 chance of a get-together?  I'm committed to certain dates (family
 birthdays), but I'll definitely have some time free.

 Pat White

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Re: OT: digital single use camera

2003-08-04 Thread T Rittenhouse
That will do a 4x6. But, I saw a 1.6mp in the bunch. These things are not
sold to people like us, they are sold to photographic illiterates. And, my
old Nikon Coolpix 100 was only 480x512, many of the snapshots in my online
journal were shot with it. It was adequate for that use.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: OT: digital single use camera


 yeah 640x480 resolution, wow.

  --- T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Actually, all you need to do is walk around a
  Wal-Mart photo department.
  They have several digital cameras under $30. I think
  the cheapest is $18.95,
  there is not a big jump from there to $10.99. No,
  they are not the ones tied
  to the counter.
 
  Ciao,
  Graywolf
  http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: gfen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: OT: digital single use camera
 
 
   On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Butch Black wrote:
Ritz camera announced it will soon be selling a
  digital single use
  camera.
Digital Photography Review report:
   
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03073101dakotadigital.asp
  
   The geeks will be all over this, in a month
  they'll be re-selling 2mp
   cameras with cables on ebay for $30. In six, Ritz
  will pull them because
   no one will really care about them over a cheap
  disposable film, and the
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Re: TOPDML in September?

2003-08-04 Thread brooksdj
Hi Pat.
The 13th may be open.Keep us informed.

Dave

 Hi, gang, I'll be in the GTA for the first two weeks in 
September.  
Any
 chance of a get-together?  I'm committed to certain dates (family
 birthdays), but I'll definitely have some time free.
 
 Pat White
 
 






RE: TOPDML in September?

2003-08-04 Thread David Chang-Sang
I'm in.. I think.. as long as I still have a job :-)

Cheers
Dave


 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: TOPDML in September?
 
 
 I should be around, depending on whether I'll have kids on any given
 weekend.  Other than that, I'll be pretty flexible, time-wise.
 
 Hope to see ya, Pat!
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 Pat White wrote:
 
  Hi, gang, I'll be in the GTA for the first two weeks in September.  Any
  chance of a get-together?  I'm committed to certain dates (family
  birthdays), but I'll definitely have some time free.
 
  Pat White
 
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