Re: Photographing Rain

[b_rubenstein]

Rain, down where you would be photographing it, will be pretty much falling 
at a constant velocity. Gravity (constant acceleration) is only for the case 
of objects falling in a vacuum. In a fluid (air) an equilibrium is reached 
between the force of gravity and drag. The velocity the object reaches is 
know as terminal velocity. 
To get the rain drops to show up well you have to light them. You don’t need 
flash, but you do need light. Have the light come from the side so it doesn’t 
reflect straight back, or light up the foreground. A high powered flash light 
might even do. 

BR

From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I want to catch the rain falling in a photograph.  My attempts at this
have all been failures.  Any suggestions for getting those raindrops on
film?  Is there an ideal shutter speed?  Or might the speed be relative
to the intensity of the rain?  Do raindrops always fall at the same
speed (thinking of early experiments with falling objects, gravity)?

My Purchase Came!! Was:Re: *ist D: hooray!

[mrkane]

Dario you TEASE!!!  

   Well, I just took posession last night of my brand new *ist D!  i spent about 3 
hours opening 
boxes, and playing.  Took about 250 pics!  

   Anyone interested in the results of an ist D with a fisheye lens, check out at 
http://www.kanescience.com/personal/istD1/
   Warning, this index.htm file may be large, it has thumbnails for 158 images on it.
   Warning v.2.0, pictures included contain babies.
   Warning v.3.0, upload was not completed, so some pictures may be missing.

IL Bill


-- Original Message ---
From: "Dario Bonazza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:50:30 +0100
Subject: *ist D: hooray!

> Keep watching Pentax websites :-)
> 
> Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.
> 
> Dario Bonazza
--- End of Original Message ---

Re: Singapore? (Very long: A reasonably detailed walkthrough..)

[Juey Chong Ong]

About humidity and heat...

Expect day time temperatures in the eighties or nineties Fahrenheit. 
Humidity is around the 70% to 90% range. Frequently, there'll be a 
mid-afternoon thunderstorm to cool off the evening. Umbrellas are 
pretty much useless ... be prepared to protect your gear. In the city, 
that's not a problem...just duck into a building and wait for the rain 
to pass.

The other thing that plays havoc with your equipment is the 
condensation you get when you get out of an air-conditioned building 
(most are, thankfully) and heat outside. You'll have to wait for the 
condensation to clear from the lens before you start shooting, or else 
you'll get some neat special effects. Don't be surprised to pick up 
your luggage from the airport and find it wet. Most likely it isn't 
rain. It's just condensation.

--jc

Re: fairygirl's off...

[Ryan Lee]

Hey did you check out the ad I found in the NSW trading post? Have a good
trip btw!

Ryan
- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:57 AM
Subject: fairygirl's off...


> hehe, new the title of this thread would lead to some raised eyebrows.
>
> Just a quick note to let you all know that I am leaving at 5am (*eek, that
> is only 3 hours away, I'd better get some sleep!), to shoot a wedding 4
> hours away.  I won't be back for a day or two and then have a pretty heavy
> shooting schedule until mid-next week.  So, please don't think I am being
> rude by not responding to emails.  Hmmm, if only I had that laptop...
>
> Speaking of which, I won an auction tonight for one and the seller won't
> sell it to me - I'll fill you in on the story when I get back, but I have
> already reported him to Ebay...
>
> 'night!
>
> Tan.
>
>

Re: twited pig

[Ryan Lee]

Atcalluy, I ocne raed smoweehre taht as lnog as the frsit and lsat letetrs
of a wrod are wehre tehy are spuopesd to be, an aevarge preson wuold be albe
to raed the senetnce nroamlly.. I was qiute aamezd. :-)

Ry

- Original Message - 
From: "mike.wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: twited pig


>
>
> > On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
> >
> > >Twisted pig.
> > >
> > >Typing is NOT my first language.
> > >
> > >William Robb
> >
> > Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle?
>
> Esle?  Cnotu em ni.  m'I sa witted as nyaone.  oYu have to eb chfie
> ewitt, thghou. )8-
>
> ekmi
>
>

Re: Blue skies...

[Butch Black]

Hmmm  magic wand might work, but select color or selecting similar may
work
a bit better, depending on the foreground.  Actually, once the sky is
selected,
it might be ok to invert the selection and copy the foreground to a pic of a
great sky, nice clouds, good contrast and deep blues ... while I've not
tried
it, the cloud filter in PS might work if there's a cloudless sky.  Lots of
ways
to get a good sky.

William Robb wrote:

> I would just shoot the darned thing and use some of the Photoshop tools to
> adjust the sky to what I want.
> Perhaps the magic wand tool to select the sky, then some levels and curves
> corrections to bring it to where you want it.
> If your a Christian girl,  pray for clouds.
>

You might also try going into hue/saturation click the drop down level menu
under edit and play around with the blue and or the cyan levels. If there
isn't a lot of blue elsewhere you may be able to get away without selecting
the sky otherwise use the lasso or magic wand tool to select.

Butch

Re: It's Stopped Raining

[Dag T]

På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 17.16 skrev Kostas Kavoussanakis:

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, mike.wilson wrote:

Kostas wrote:

Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)?
It was me.  I put the lens cap on before going inside.  All surfaces
were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes
mopping it off.  I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the
moisture might penetrate the lens or body.
Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the
insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom
perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring
the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example
have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash.
In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero
temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the
last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy.
I prefer another method.  Just wrap the camera in wool.  It absorbs the 
condensation and smoothens the temperature changes.

Never take the lens of during the condensation period.

DagT

RE: Blue skies...

[David Madsen]

Tan,

I just wanted to thank you for asking this question.  I have had the same
problem with blue skies and I have enjoyed the responses you have received
to the query.  It sounds like there are several potential solutions, but if
you are shooting digital anyway I would lean towards PS.

And thank you to everyone else for your suggestions.  I will be trying
several of them.

David Madsen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.davidmadsen.com

Re: Blue skies...

[Juey Chong Ong]

On Wednesday, Jan 7, 2004, at 20:10 America/New_York, Tanya Mayer 
Photography wrote:

I will be completing the shoot (not the wedding, but the one where the 
client has
requested the blue skies etc) digitally, so I would also love to know 
if
anyone else has had any success achieving this result digitally?
Lee Varis has a new tutorial on this:

http://www.varis.com/Navigation/Steps.html

Click on the link that says "Sky Project".

US$9.95 for a 33-page tutorial sounds reasonable to me. There are also 
some free tutorials on the site.

--jc

Re: *ist D: hooray!

[Dag T]

What I was thinking of was this:
http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=169
"PENTAX U.S.A. will preview the lens at the PEPCOM Digital Focus media 
event on January 7 in Las Vegas during the 2004 Consumer Electronics 
Show."

Maybe there is more...

DagT

På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 17.19 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Bloody hell.  Don't tell me i need to clear another enablement with my 
Beloved
Wife™!

Quoting Dag T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that...

DagT

På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 16.20 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Ah, yes.  When is this firmware update due to appear?

Quoting Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Keep watching Pentax websites :-)

Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.

Dario Bonazza





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Re: Vs: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount

[Shel Belinkoff]

Not necessarily ... it might be a flattering portrait but still fail as a photograph 
on other grounds.  Example: one of my earliest
photos was of a young, blonde child in her mother's arms.  It still moves me to this 
day.  But it was a failure on so many technical
grounds ... way over exposed, slightly out of focus, poor printing and darkroom 
technique.  Yet, while the photo did flatter the child,
it is one that I'd "condemn" on technical grounds, and it is one that I've never shown 
publicly.

Raimo Korhonen wrote:

> I fail to see the difference - you condemn the photo because it is UNflattering - 
> you would accept it if it were flattering. O.E.D.

Re: It's Stopped Raining

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, mike.wilson wrote:

> Kostas wrote:
>
> > Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)?
>
> It was me.  I put the lens cap on before going inside.  All surfaces
> were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes
> mopping it off.  I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the
> moisture might penetrate the lens or body.

Am I right to infer that you don't need to remove the lens to dry the
insides? What are the chances of condensation forming inside a (zoom
perhaps) lens? I read something about using an airtight bag to bring
the camera in. How airtight need it be? Supermarket bags for example
have holes for the kids not to suffocate in a flash.

In general, I only take the camera out when we are above zero
temperatures. Unlike Shel, I had about 8 non-flash pictures in the
last 74 that I took delivery of today :-( Not happy.

Kostas

Re: Singapore? (Very long: A reasonably detailed walkthrough..)

[Juey Chong Ong]

On Wednesday, Jan 7, 2004, at 17:08 America/New_York, Stan Halpin wrote:

Ryan - thanks for the detailed reply! Rob, Bob, thanks also. All good 
information which I hope to have a chance to put to use. I am going 
(probably) for a three-day meeting, may get one day on front end, one 
day after the meeting, maybe a few hours to myself in the evenings.

I'll read your posts in detail and let you know if I have any specific 
questions.
Stan,

I just got back from Singapore.

Ryan has already given you a better description than what the tourist 
board puts out. :-)

A couple more things:

When you get off the plane, keep an eye out for the tourist brochures 
at the airport. The official map is useful and there is also a pamphlet 
of special offers for visitors. Some of the deals are pretty good.

Keep an eye out for discounts if you pay by certain credit cards: I 
came across a number of establishments that give discounts if you pay 
the bill using a credit card issued by certain banks. The discounts can 
be quite substantial (15% at one restaurant I went to).

The Asian Civilizations Museums (http://www.nhb.gov.sg/ACM/acm.shtml) 
are wonderful, although the technology in there doesn't work very well 
--- just don't let it bother you. The Empress Place location is right 
across the Fullerton Hotel and on the riverfront. You can spend several 
hours at the museum and then as evening approaches, either hang around 
the cafes at the riverfront or walk through the Civic District towards 
the Esplanade and soak in the changing colors. You could also try a 
ride on one of the bumboats.

The Duck Tour (http://www.ducktours.com.sg/) should give you a very 
brief overview of the Civic District and a pleasant hour-long 
sightseeing ride.

Chinese New Year comes early this year (January 22, I think) so the 
Christmas decorations have barely been taken down but the New Year ones 
are already up. The streets in Chinatown are lit up and the night 
markets are on. Have fun and shoot lots of photos. Watch out for 
pickpockets and wallet snatchers, though.

--jc

Re: *ist D: hooray!

[Heiko Hamann]

Hi Dag,

on 08 Jan 04 you wrote in pentax.list:

>I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that...

The first 16-45 are already shipped here in Germany. That shouldn't be  
the hooray-news. Dario - please...

Cheers, Heiko

Re: *ist D: hooray!

[bucky]

Bloody hell.  Don't tell me i need to clear another enablement with my Beloved 
Wife™!

Quoting Dag T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I think the 16-45 was scheduled today or something like that...
> 
> DagT
> 
> På 8. jan. 2004 kl. 16.20 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> > Ah, yes.  When is this firmware update due to appear?
> >
> > Quoting Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> Keep watching Pentax websites :-)
> >>
> >> Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.
> >>
> >> Dario Bonazza
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
> 
> 




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Vs: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount

[Raimo Korhonen]

I fail to see the difference - you condemn the photo because it is UNflattering - you 
would accept it if it were flattering. O.E.D.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 16:22
Aihe: Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount


>I NEVER said that ... just that this particular photo is unflattering.  Not at all 
>the same
>thing.
>
>Raimo Korhonen wrote:
>
>> Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo is to 
>> flatter.
>> All the best!
>

Re: Photographing Rain

[Carlos Nascimento]

Something like if you have "Scratched out". Is a effect provided by the movement os 
the drops while the shutter is open...


[]'s, 
CN

> What's a "risky" rain?

fairygirl's off...

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

hehe, new the title of this thread would lead to some raised eyebrows.

Just a quick note to let you all know that I am leaving at 5am (*eek, that
is only 3 hours away, I'd better get some sleep!), to shoot a wedding 4
hours away.  I won't be back for a day or two and then have a pretty heavy
shooting schedule until mid-next week.  So, please don't think I am being
rude by not responding to emails.  Hmmm, if only I had that laptop...

Speaking of which, I won an auction tonight for one and the seller won't
sell it to me - I'll fill you in on the story when I get back, but I have
already reported him to Ebay...

'night!

Tan.

Re: *ist D: hooray!

[Michel Carrère-Gée]

Dario Bonazza a écrit:

Keep watching Pentax websites :-)

Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.

 

Dario, too much said, or not enough !!
Arrrggg .
Michel

Condensation Was:Re: It's Stopped Raining

[mike.wilson]

Hi,

Kostas wrote:

> Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag
> T who wrote about the MZ-S):
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Dag T wrote:
> >
> > >> I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect.  Coming out of well
> > >> below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced
> > >> enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins.  I just kept mopping
> > >> it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating.
>
> Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)?

It was me.  I put the lens cap on before going inside.  All surfaces
were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes
mopping it off.  I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the
moisture might penetrate the lens or body.  The intervals between
moppings got longer and longer, until it was not necessary any more.

mike

(sent this yesterday but it was returned @ 4.00am)

Re: twited pig

[mike.wilson]

> On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
> 
> >Twisted pig.
> >
> >Typing is NOT my first language.
> >
> >William Robb
> 
> Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle?

Esle?  Cnotu em ni.  m'I sa witted as nyaone.  oYu have to eb chfie
ewitt, thghou. )8-

ekmi

Re: It's Stopped Raining

[mike.wilson]

Hi,

Kostas wrote:

> Sorry, I missed the original post (and think it may not have been Dag
> T who wrote about the MZ-S):
> 
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Lon Williamson wrote:
> 
> > Dag T wrote:
> >
> > >> I was very impressed with the MZ-S in this respect.  Coming out of well
> > >> below 20degrees under zero into a warm and moist cafe, it produced
> > >> enough condensation to soak about 30 paper napkins.  I just kept mopping
> > >> it off until it had warmed up sufficiently to cease creating.
>
> Which bits does one mop (and therefore check for condensation)?

It was me.  I put the lens cap on before going inside.  All surfaces
were beaded with moisture immediately and I spent about 20 minutes
mopping it off.  I concentrated on the areas of joints, where the
moisture might penetrate the lens or body.  The intervals between
moppings got longer and longer, until it was not necessary any more.

mike

Re: Photographing Rain

[Shel Belinkoff]

What's a "risky" rain?

Carlos Nascimento wrote:

>
> The answer to you question is: 'it's depends'. If you want a 'risky' rain,

Re: *ist D: hooray!

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

on 08.01.04 15:50, Dario Bonazza at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Keep watching Pentax websites :-)
> 
> Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.
> 
Either new firmware, Photoshop RAW support or new RAW software :-) OK, I
stand patient and wait :-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: "Photo-plagiarism"

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Naomi van der Lippe"
Subject: "Photo-plagiarism"


> Hi all
>
> Hope all the New Year's resolutions are holding up!
>
> I have seen a photo in a pamphlet on photography which I would like to
> re-create and, if successful, to display on PUG sometime.  Would this not
be
> seen as "photo-plagiarism"?  I have seen zillions of beautiful photo's
which
> I would love to try however I am always concern about the consequences.
>
> How do you guys feel about this?

The only way I can take a good photo is to copy someone elses ideas.

William Robb

Re: *ist D: hooray!

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

on 08.01.04 15:50, Dario Bonazza at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Keep watching Pentax websites :-)
> 
> Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.
> 
Which one should we look more freuently and for how long? ;-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

*ist D: hooray!

[Dario Bonazza]

Keep watching Pentax websites :-)

Sorry, I cannot tell more, so please don't ask.

Dario Bonazza

RE: The Toughest Pentax

[Amita Guha]

> Bless you. Unlikely though. All traffic going onto Anglesey 
> (or Ynys Mon
> - pr innis monn) now goes over the Britannia Bridge. You can 
> still drive over the older Menai Bridge, but only in a car. 
> There are weight restrictions on the poor thing

Yep, that's the one I meant, the Britannia Bridge...

Re: Francesco Scavullo passes on..

[Mark Roberts]

"Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Neither had
>> I.
> 
>Ditto...and when I went to his site and saw that pic of Brooke Shields,
>all I could think was wow, look at that 80's hair... 

I'm so glad everyone is now confessing. 
I kept thinking "Is this someone I should have heard of?"
Apparently not.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Fw: wow!

[Steve Desjardins]

Wear something in silver mylar, complete with full head covering. 
Portable AC unit, solar powered.


Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Francesco Scavullo passes on..

[Amita Guha]

> Neither had
> I.
 
Ditto...and when I went to his site and saw that pic of Brooke Shields,
all I could think was wow, look at that 80's hair... 

Re: Photography: Fun or Profit????

[Steve Jolly]

mapson wrote:
You should know photographers are nasty people. They ask you to smile, 
in exchange they frame you, shoot you and then hang on the wall!
You missed out the bit where they blow you up...

S

Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount

[Shel Belinkoff]

I NEVER said that ... just that this particular photo is unflattering.  Not at all the 
same
thing.

Raimo Korhonen wrote:

> Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo it to 
> flatter.
> All the best!

RE: Photography: Fun or Profit????

[Malcolm Smith]

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> Another question:
> 
> If you shoot for fun, what gives you the most fun, the shoot 
> or the results or both? 

Landscape photography during the winter months, in foul weather. Nothing
else, photographically, comes close to the enjoyment I have doing that.

Malcolm 

Re: wedding photography...ugh!

[Mark Roberts]

wendy beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At 06:59 PM 07/01/2004 -0500, Shel wrote:
>
>>One local lab here says cats and babies are what they see the most of ... year
>>after year.
>
>Whenever I used to go into my local photoprocessing place, someone always 
>used to ask "More dog pictures?".

My local camera shop has an in-house bulldog. Very ugly and very
friendly. There are photos of it all over the store!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Laptop, portable burners and others.

[Mark Roberts]

This nifty gizmo just showed up on DP Review yesterday:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04010501epsonp1000.asp


-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Down off my "high-horse"... with a thump.

[Mark Roberts]

"Paul Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>200km might be a little restrictive if you are trying to shoot
>>motorsports :-)
>>I'm fortunate to have two first-class tracks within that range; Laguna
>>Seca and Sears Point. 
>
>Theoretically, 200km gives me Albert Park (F1), Phillip Island (MotoGP),
>Sandown (V8 supercar), Calder (Drags) and Winton (V8 supercar)

All right. I now officially hate both of you ;-)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: 50mm Pentax Screwmount

[wendy beard]

At 11:39 PM 07/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> http://www.muddypawz.net/photos/CRW_3426_w.jpg
> ;-)
>
> Wendy
Belgian Tervuren?

Christian
Spot on!
Ch. Blackcomb's Dreaming of Ewe aged 1 year 4 months tomorrow.
aka Tyra the tyrant
or as the obedience instructor calls her "the hellion" or "the bad dog". 
All terms of endearment :-)
She's a little charmer really.

Wendy

Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com

Re: Francesco Scavullo passes on..

[ernreed2]

> JC,JC,JC Ann was feeling triumphant that there was somebody else who
> didn't know of the man, and therefore one less person in the world that
> thought the sun shone out of his you know what...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> For the record, Ann, I'd never heard of him either!
> 
> tan.

Neither had
I.

Re: Just got my ist D

[Bill Owens]

> Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it.  Quick
> question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct.

Yes, the ist D does not have the power zoom contacts

> First impressions are good, though a better camera strap would have been
> good.  No trouble getting the CF card in or out.  Just have to work out if
I
> have any other incompatible lens.  Might be selling some on e bay soon.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>

Re: Just got my ist D

[cbwaters]

Congratulations on the new camera Charles!
It's true that the Power Zoom feature isn't supported on this camera but the
lens still works, right?
Now, let's see your first photos! :)

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:42 AM
Subject: Just got my ist D


> Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it.  Quick
> question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct.
>
> First impressions are good, though a better camera strap would have been
> good.  No trouble getting the CF card in or out.  Just have to work out if
I
> have any other incompatible lens.  Might be selling some on e bay soon.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>


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Re: digital grain?

[Rob Studdert]

On 8 Jan 2004 at 22:20, mapson wrote:

> Does the picture become more "grainy" or pixelated when shot on ISO 1600 
> (or 3200) compared with ISO 200?
> 
> Obviously we assume that the picture is exposed correctly in both cases.

200/3200 AWB

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~audiob/temp/IMGP0605m.jpg

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: twited pig

[Keith Whaley]

I learned touch typing in the end of grade school, I believe, and 
didn't use it for years and years.
Until I got a computer!
That was in 1986.
Since then, my typing speeds have improved dramatically, but the one
trick I unfortunately picked up on is: watching the keyboard.
My accuracy improved ten-fold, and the speed doesn't really suffer that
much at all.
I know it's a crutch, but if it's "type fast and accurately" time, for
me it's "watch the keyboard."

keith whaley

"J. C. O'Connell" wrote:
> 
> FWIW,
> 
> Odd thing is that while I type much faster now via touch
> typing, I am making far more errors than I did with my old
> "hunt and peck" method.  I assume this will get better, I
> have only been touch typing for about six months...
> 
> 
>J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:56 AM
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: twited pig
> 
> On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
> 
> >Twisted pig.
> >
> >Typing is NOT my first language.
> >
> >William Robb
> 
> Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle?
> 
> Cheers,
>   Cotty

RE: digital grain?

[Leonard Paris]

Noise increases but pixellation doesn't.

Len
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From: mapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does the picture become more "grainy" or pixelated when shot on ISO 1600 
(or 3200) compared with ISO 200?

Obviously we assume that the picture is exposed correctly in both cases.
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RE: Just got my ist D

[Leonard Paris]

Yes, that's correct.

Len
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From: "Charles Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it.  Quick
question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct.
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digital grain?

[mapson]

Does the picture become more "grainy" or pixelated when shot on ISO 1600 
(or 3200) compared with ISO 200?

Obviously we assume that the picture is exposed correctly in both cases.

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Just got my ist D

[Charles Wilson]

Just got my ist D , now all I have to do is work out how to use it.  Quick
question my power zoom doesn't seem to work on it, is this correct.

First impressions are good, though a better camera strap would have been
good.  No trouble getting the CF card in or out.  Just have to work out if I
have any other incompatible lens.  Might be selling some on e bay soon.

Regards


Charles

Re: Blue skies...

[Herb Chong]

that is the most controllable way. otherwise, two exposures, one for the
people and one for the dark blue skies, and blend in Photoshop. or, you
could just shoot without regard to sky and replace with artificial skies.
there are plugins in Photoshop just for this purpose, once you mask off
everything but the sky. if all else fails, you can buy stock photography of
dark blue skies and clouds and blend. this is advertising, so anything goes.
change way more for this.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Blue skies...


> Ok, so what is the best way to underexpose?  Using flash?  Imagine that
> there will be kids in the foreground (it is for the fashion shoot),
country
> backgrounds with wheat and sunflowers, maybe a horse or two.

Re: test

[mapson]

> they do!
>
Strange, apparently they don't come to my mailbox? I have to check it out,
thanks for response!


I noticed they come from 2 different addresses - maybe that is why

   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The beginnings of my calendar...

[Bob W]

Hi,

you might want to re-think the title of mrcowshat.html. I read it as
Mr. Cow shat.

Which, I suppose, is a country activity.

Good idea though. Perhaps you could also introduce them to some crocs.


-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

RE: test

[Len Paris]

Subscribe from a different account.  That will give you another place to
look and see if your mail made it or not.  PDML sometimes quits sending
my replies to me for a time.  I just check my other account to see if
it's there.

Len
 * There's no place like 127.0.0.1
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: test
> 
> 
> on 08.01.04 10:40, mapson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > they do!
> > 
> Strange, apparently they don't come to my mailbox? I have to 
> check it out,
> thanks for response!
> 
> -- 
> Pozdrowienia
> Sylwek
> 
> 

Re: Francesco Scavullo passes on..

[Bob W]

Hi,

> Scavullo made everyone he photographed look the
> same, in a way, so that
> the portraits became about him instead of his
> subjects.  

His subjects never look as though they've been in make-up. They look
as though they've been in taxidermy.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

RE: Fw: wow!

[Cotty]

On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Pardon me,
>
>Whats a Pimm?

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.





Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: More moon shots

[Rob Studdert]

On 7 Jan 2004 at 23:10, Christian Skofteland wrote:

> I'd say Rob's image was sharper and better.  I had the tripod set up on a
> wooden deck and think there was a lot of vibration/camera shake.

It looks pretty good to me, but the bloody thing is up-side down :-)

BTW you really really shouldn't put spaces in URLs.

Rob Studdert
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Re: Cheap bastards? -was: Down off my "high-horse"... with a thump.

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Cotty wrote:

> Check this out: back in 1984 we had an assistant film editor who was
> engaged but the marriage was called off a few days before as the groom
> had decided he was gay and ran off with the best man.

Beat that: wedding called off when the bride's father catches the
groom-(not)-to-be wearing the bride's dress with the best man as close
as it gets, IYSWIM.

Newspaper story 4-5 years ago, and it was not the 1st of April.

Kostas

Re: AF 330 FTZ Flash.

[Kostas Kavoussanakis]

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Trevor Bailey wrote:

> Makes for a bloody heavy outfit.

Add to it the Cobra 750AF with the bracket (ie another 8 AAs) and you
are off to the bodybuilding competition :-)

> Also, the MZ-7 appears to work with the appeture ring set to positions
> other than "A". I was playing with it and the "f" number shows in the
> veiwfinder when the ring is moved. this didn't happen with the MZ-50.
>
> Does this mean that I can use lenses without the "A"?

Yes. Welcome to the world of affordable and wonderful glass.

Kostas

Re: test

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

on 08.01.04 10:40, mapson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> they do!
> 
Strange, apparently they don't come to my mailbox? I have to check it out,
thanks for response!

-- 
Pozdrowienia
Sylwek

Re: test

[mapson]

they do!

At 09:53 AM 8/01/2004 +0100, you wrote:
My posts don't reach PDML :-(

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Best Regards
Sylwek


   (*)o(*) 
Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

Hi,
for me, Pentax could change left side mode/WB/ISO wheel to the thingy in
style of the one found in Z1P and Z1. It would be just superb for digital
camera, as you would always be in shutter priority - even during changing
ISO, WB, image quality, you could always back to photographing by just
pressing shutter button - no need to turn the wheel to come back to one of
exposure modes. And with this one solution many functions could be
integrated in one convenient control wheel - no need to create more buttons,
which start to confuse you if there are too many of them scattered around
camera body. If they returned to known from Z1s hyper exposure modes, then
they could back to that too instead of copying thing from Nikon D100 and
similar cameras.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: Blue skies...

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

on 08.01.04 2:10, Tanya Mayer Photography at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is it likely that this type of shot really needs PS'ing to make the sky look
> so deep blue in colour?  Should I try using a graduated filter of some sort?
You can use light blue grad filter to enhance blue skies. If you use
polarizer, just remember, that the best effect can be achieved, when the sun
is straight on your left or right - at 90š to the axis of your lens. Keeping
to this rule, I had many shots with deep blue skies without using any sort
of blue grad filter.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

RE: twited pig

[J. C. O'Connell]

FWIW,

Odd thing is that while I type much faster now via touch
typing, I am making far more errors than I did with my old
"hunt and peck" method.  I assume this will get better, I
have only been touch typing for about six months...


   J.C. O'Connell   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://jcoconnell.com


-Original Message-
From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:56 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: twited pig


On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>Twisted pig.
>
>Typing is NOT my first language.
>
>William Robb

Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle?




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount

[Raimo Korhonen]

Shel, I find it hard to believe that you think that the purpose of a photo it to 
flatter.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

-Alkuperäinen viesti-
Lähettäjä: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 1:24
Aihe: Re: 50mm Pentax Screwmount


>Didn't object to the 50mm, just that it was too close.  Very unflattering, IMO ...
>the nose is way out of proportion to the rest of the face.  Looking at it again
>there's something unsettling about it ... it's subtle, but it looks like the angle
>of the head is skewed just a scosh, and that adds a certain tension that's not
>appropriate for this type of portrait.
>
>graywolf wrote:
>
>> Well I have some problems with it too. Focus seems to be on the cheek well
>> forward of the eyes. It is a square picture, is it heavily cropped or did he lie
>> about the format? However, I have no problem with the focal length, most 35mm
>> shooters use is too long a lens for portraits anyway. I will admitt it is about
>> as short as I would go though.
>>
>

Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount

[Raimo Korhonen]

Yeah, she would - but that does not mean that it would be a better photograph.
It would be a standard nondescript snapshot. You do not always have to follow every 
rule in the book. With shorter focal lengths (and look how short focal lengths the top 
photojournalists are using these days) you are drawn into the subject´s space and it 
gives the image more impact. And it does not actually distort the image, it´s called 
perspective and everybody is getting used to it.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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Lähettäjä: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vastaanottaja: pentax list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Päivä: 08. tammikuuta 2004 0:14
Aihe: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount


>On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
>
>>Nah, 50 mm at close up gives intimacy.
>
>...and a black eye. Nobody likes their features, particularly noses,
>exaggerated. I don't buy it.
>
>I'm not saying that portraits can't be taken on *any* focal length. I
>shoot on a 38mm (equivalent) focal length quite regularly - but not on a
>tight head shot.
>
>Depends what you consider acceptable, of course, and I can't argue with
>that. What I can argue is that if you put that shot and a similar shot of
>longer focal length and ask her to pick one, she will choose the longer
>focal length with question. I would eat Frank's bunny ears if she didn't.
>
>!
>
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>  Cotty
>
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Re: Re[4]: Cokin P & Ultrawide

[Chris Stoddart]

> On another note, the bracket that you slide the filters into protrude so
> much it can cause vignetting even if the opening in the ring doesn't. On
> fully open aperture, that is. The 645-A 45/2.8 is like that, and so is the
> FA*24/2.


I have a cut down holder I use on my 6x7 55mm f/4 (77mm filter thread).
The grad ND filters work fine, the Cokin polarizer vignettes dramatically
when the lens in stopped down. If I want to polarize, I have to use a
screw-in Hoya polarizer with this lens. Adding the Cokin cut-down to the
end of the Hoya vignettes :-( A bit of masking tape to hold the Cokin
filters on the end of the polarizer works though.

I use a normal holder on the 6x7 75mm f/4.5 (82mm filter thread). I
haven't noticed any vignetting yet.

In 35mm, the Cokin holder also works well with the K-24mm f/2.8 yet I've
found that Hoya screw-in polarizers (52mm thread) vignette - completely
the opposite to the 55mm 6x7!

If I was to get a 6x7 45mm f/4 I'm pretty sure I would have to get a Lee
filter system for it. In fact I may well standardize on Lee this year if I
can persuade the finance department.

Chris

Re: twited pig

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:56:05 +
 Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Twisted pig.

Typing is NOT my first language.

William Robb
Time to start another brotherhood. Anyone esle?
Coutn me in, brother Cotty. I offen make rahter funny misprnits. All 
ten of my figners are of differetn lentgh...

Is there a rite of initiation?



Boris

Re: Ergonomics of *istD

[Sylwek]

Hi,
for me, Pentax could change left side mode/WB/ISO wheel to the thingy in
style of the one found in Z1P and Z1. It would be just superb for digital
camera, as you would always be in shutter priority - even during changing
ISO, WB, image quality, you could always back to photographing by just
pressing shutter button - no need to turn the wheel to come back to one of
exposure modes. And with this one solution many functions could be
integrated in one convenient control wheel - no need to create more buttons,
which start to confuse you if there are too many of them scattered around
camera body. If they returned to known from Z1s hyper exposure modes, then
they could back to that too instead of copying thing from Nikon D100 and
similar cameras.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: Blue skies...

[Sylwek]

on 08.01.04 2:10, Tanya Mayer Photography at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is it likely that this type of shot really needs PS'ing to make the sky look
> so deep blue in colour?  Should I try using a graduated filter of some sort?
You can use light blue grad filter to enhance blue skies. If you use
polarizer, just remember, that the best effect can be achieved, when the sun
is straight on your left or right - at 90š to the axis of your lens. Keeping
to this rule, I had many shots with deep blue skies without using any sort
of blue grad filter.

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek

Re: Polarizers...

[Dag T]

På 7. jan. 2004 kl. 22.56 skrev Tanya Mayer Photography:

Just a question in regards to polarizers...

Can someone explain to me the difference between a circular and linear
polarizer?  Could I use a linear polarizer on my Oly which has 
internal AF
ie. the lens doesn't rotate?

A circular polarizer is in principle a linear polarizer with a 
depolarizer on the back, first filtering out light with a certain 
polarization and then depolarizing the light coming through the filter. 
 It works on all cameras, but is a bit more expensive.

Most modern cameras, and I think all AF cameras, have beam splitters in 
their AF-system (as well as their light meters).  These beam splitters 
are polarization dependent.  Therefore, to get correct metering and AF 
the light coming into the camera should not be polarized.

Try placing a linear polarizer in front of another and rotate them 
relative to each other, and you see what you AF sensors or light meters 
will see  if you put a linear polarizer on a modern camera.  You can 
get anything from almost all the light through the second filter to 
absolute darkness, if the polarizers are good.

DagT

Re: test

[Tanya Mayer Photography]

this one did!  ;-)

- Original Message - 
From: "Sylwek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:53 PM
Subject: test


> My posts don't reach PDML :-(
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards
> Sylwek
> 
>