Normal focal length of the *ist D

2004-03-07 Thread Jens Bladt
About standard focal length for the *Ist D.
Is it true, that a "normal" lens for the *ist D, with a CCD of 23.5 x 15.7
mm is equal to the diagonal of this rectangular square? If yes, the standard
focal length should be 28,3mm.
This calculation (Phythagoras) gives us a 43.3 mm standard focal length for
the 24x36mm format. This will result in a factor (35mm film/CCD) of 1.53.
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt





Re: Minolta Scanners

2004-03-07 Thread Alin Flaider

  Robert,

  The Dual III has good dynamic range and generally it copes very well
  with most slides. I've scanned several brands and always got the
  entire range from the deepest shadows to the lightest highlights,
  especially if you use it's 16 bit linear colour profile. The same
  goes for b/w negatives - the tone range is entirely covered. On the
  other hand the bundled Twain driver performs so poorly with colour
  negative films down to the point of being almost unusable. You'll
  have to recourse to a third party for these. The sharpness is
  excellent, the focus control as well. Of course if you can afford go
  for the Elite as the IR channel boosts a lot the productivity (the
  software de-speck in Dual III driver is useless for large
  enlargements). As for the Dual IV it seems it only brings 3200 dpi
  vs. 2800. Good luck to your friend.

  Servus,  Alin

Robert wrote:

RLW> I have a friend shopping for a film scanner. He has narrrowed his search to
RLW> two offerings from Minolta:

RLW> DiMage Scan Dual III

RLW> DiMage Scan Elite 5400

RLW> Any firsthand use/opinions from list members???
RLW> I have read photographyreview.com.
RLW> The 5400 gets a 4.8 with 5 ratings.



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ? Paul Ewins

2004-03-07 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Paul Ewins wrote:
> 
> 2. Jobo 3010 expert drum - the one for 4x5. Unfortunately this costs way
> too much for a piece of plastic with no moving parts, so even on eBay I
> end up passing them by.

Will a 4541 do?  BNIB.  Contact me off list.

mike



SV: Monopods

2004-03-07 Thread Jens Bladt
With a little help I found this:
http://www.manfrotto.com/product/templates/templates.php3?sectionid=14&itemi
d=299

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 8. marts 2004 04:45
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: Monopods


I looked at the Adorama one but it looked kind of flimsy to me.

> -Original Message-
> From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Adorama makes one based on the linhof design. It's supposed
> to be very good but I don't know if it would be worth
> ordering from the USA
>
> Butch
>
> Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
>
> Hermann Hesse (Demian)
>
>
>





Re: PAW: Resting Foal

2004-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
The tight crop works.  At least for me.  It makes it more of an abstract 
than a portrait.
I probably would have pulled back to keep from cutting off the tip of 
his/her nose.

David Mann wrote:

A few days late :(

This is one of my favourite prints.  I'll frame a decent-sized copy 
one of these days...

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=8-Mar-2004

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/






SV: OT - eBay advice saught

2004-03-07 Thread Jens Bladt
That's right!

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 8. marts 2004 07:36
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: OT - eBay advice saught


Nick Clark wrote:

> My understanding is that the problems with PayPal are on the
> seller's side, so there's no reason why someone can't use it to pay.

I've known payments to go missing for a while. I also don't like paying a
percentage on top to cover fees, as many sellers do. None of my eBay
purchases are time critical, and I can happily wait for cheques to clear and
not give money to a third party as a buyer.

Malcolm






K2 for sale.

2004-03-07 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi Mark,
 
>Well I have a K2 for sale. LN condition. $150.00

I'm negotiating a swap of my ME-Super for one at the moment. It gets around
the current 'no more cameras' embargo!

Malcolm






RE: OT - eBay advice saught

2004-03-07 Thread Malcolm Smith
Nick Clark wrote:

> My understanding is that the problems with PayPal are on the 
> seller's side, so there's no reason why someone can't use it to pay.

I've known payments to go missing for a while. I also don't like paying a
percentage on top to cover fees, as many sellers do. None of my eBay
purchases are time critical, and I can happily wait for cheques to clear and
not give money to a third party as a buyer.

Malcolm 




FS: Proxitel 200mm F4 lens (M42)

2004-03-07 Thread Gary Sibio
Proxitel 200mm f:4 lens for sale on Ebay

This is a 200mm f:4 lens that focuses down to 1/3 life size making it great 
for flowers and larger insects. Here's the vital statistics:

Mount: M42 Pentax screw mount
Diaphram: Automatic or Manual
Filter Size: 62mm
Mimimum Aperture: f:22
Length: 4 3/4 inches
Diameter: 2 3/4 inches
The lens comes with a metal screw-in front lens cap and a plastic rear lens 
cap. Photo available on Ebay. Here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3802549045



Gary J Sibio
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.earthlink.net/~garysibio/
You know you're having a bad day when Elton John rewrites the lyrics to 
"Candle in the Wind" for you. 



PAW: Resting Foal

2004-03-07 Thread David Mann
A few days late :(

This is one of my favourite prints.  I'll frame a decent-sized copy one 
of these days...

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/cgi-bin/paw.cgi?date=8-Mar-2004

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/



RE: 28mm shift price?

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Ewins
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Then tell us how the guy with the speed graphic would cope with the
case
mentioned in the comparison, where the podium was 200' away. 

Swapped to a 360mm and then cropped from the centre

> Or what he would do in the case of equipment failure - the digital
outfit includes two bodies, not just one.
 
a. used the FP shutter
b. swapped his 127/135 for a 150 or a 90

Apart from the shutter failing or the aperture blades getting stuck I
can't think of anything short of physical damage that is going to
prevent a graphic taking pictures. 

It's funny that photographers ditched their Speed-Graphics for a Nikon F
or M3 with maybe three or four lenses because it was so much lighter.
Now they are still using 35mm sized cameras but take everything except
the kitchen sink. Maybe the could take a lead from Ansel Adams and
invest in a good pack-mule to carry their equipment.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia 




Sigma 8mm f4 manual focus circ. fisheye vs. A Peleng 8A f3.5 Wishfull thinking was [ ... vs. Zenitar-K 8mm f2.8]

2004-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
That was wish full thinking, I meant to reference Peleng lens.  Just 
replace Zenitar references with Peleng and all will be well.

As some may have noticed I rather like using fisheye lenses.  In 
anticipation of Purchasing a *ist-D, (or *ist-Dn it's successor
or whatever they call it, based on how long it's taking me to raise the 
money), I'm looking into reasonably priced Circular fisheye
lenses on the assumption that these will be almost full frame  (22.x° 
image circle) on an APS sized sensor.  Does anyone have any
direct knowledge of these two lenses or know of any on line reviews.  
About the only things I've been able to discern is that the
Sigma has an A equivalent mount while the Zenitar is a K mount.I'd 
appreciate the information.


--Thanks





Kirk Ball Head

2004-03-07 Thread Chris
We might persuade you to leave the Kirk ball head behind with us,
Regards Chris K





Sigma 8mm f4 manual focus circ. fisheye vs. Zenitar-k 8mm f2.8

2004-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
As some may have noticed I rather like using fisheye lenses.  In 
anticipation of Purchasing a *ist-D, (or *ist-Dn it's successor
or whatever they call it, based on how long it's taking me to raise the 
money), I'm looking into reasonably priced Circular fisheye
lenses on the assumption that these will be almost full frame  (22.x° 
image circle) on an APS sized sensor.  Does anyone have any
direct knowledge of these two lenses or know of any on line reviews.  
About the only things I've been able to discern is that the
Sigma has an A equivalent mount while the Zenitar is a K mount.I'd 
appreciate the information.

--Thanks



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread David Mann
On Mar 8, 2004, at 06:19, Mark Erickson wrote:

So what's on your list?
All I wanted 10 years ago was a girl and a job...

My current wish-list:

67II body and metered prism
*ist-D
31mm Limited lens, but it's not a strong desire (the 35/3.5 is too nice)
Xpan
iPod mini
Minolta Multi Pro scanner
Epson 4000 printer (after getting the scanner)
12" G4 Powerbook
A couple of 23" Cinema Displays
A sizeable house
And last but not least
The cute model out of an advertising campaign that's been running here 
for a while :)

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/



Re: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend.....

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Aaron,

Well, I may have gone a bit overboard (with the best of intentions, I assure 
you) in my previous post.

As you can see from my reply to Lasse's reworking of your image, I think his 
crop did wonders to the original, and I quite like it.

I do like the second one, though.  It's got a different vibe, as the 
observer doesn't quite seem to have the apprehension that his body language 
would indicate in the first.

Whatever, they're both good shots (now that the first has been cropped).  
Again, I think I came on a bit strong in my first reply - sometimes I just 
"get the bit in my teeth" as it were, and go about rushing like a bull in a 
china shop (hey, a cliche metaphore and a cliche simile in the same sentence 
- not bad, eh? )

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: bransky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend.
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:15:42 -0600
Frank, thank you for your thorough and helpful critique.  I really 
appreciate it, and your points are well taken.  I did
take a picture showing the face of the middle boy after the 1st shot, see 
link below.  I like the other one better, but you
might see it differently.  The boy with the bow is my son, he's used to me 
taking pictures, but the other two aren't, so I
sort of slunk around and grabbed these shots, and that's probably exactly 
why these in the end are just backyard snapshots,
albeit ones that bring a smile to my face.

Again, great to hear your thoughts and suggestions,

Aaron Bransky

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191550&size=lg

  (from Frank T.)
Unfortunately, it's due to that angle that things sort of fall apart for 
me.
  Other than the title, it's really hard to see what the bow and arrow boy
is doing.  Yes, I know we can see the target, but that's really not enough
of a clue for people like me .  I can't tell what he's up to.

We also can't see anyone's face - not that that's always a bad thing, but 
in
this case, I think that much of what's happening in the kids' minds could 
be
reflected on their faces.  I know you were trying to get all three of them
in the shot, which idea has some merit, but in this case, it might have 
been
nice to get tight into one or more of their faces, or at least much closer
than you were.

Even though I posted previously saying I hate it when people tell me "I
would have taken the shot such-and-such a way", I'm going to come 
perilously
close to doing just that.

Next time, maybe forget about the target, and get beside the kids (like to
the left of the shooter).  Try to get all three of them in profile (it 
looks
like they would have been nicely lined up for that).  With a bit of moving
around, you might have been able to capture much more emotion than you did.
I think you saw a scene with lots of great elements, but didn't know what 
to
do with it - that's the impression I get anyway.

This isn't a bad shot, but to me (and this is just a personal opinion),
you're really close to raising it from a backyard snapshot to a statement
about boys and their toys.  I think you wanted to, but for whatever reason
didn't exactly know what to do.
OTOH, you may have shots on your disk that are closer to what I'm thinking,
and if so, it would be great to see them.
And, again, I'm not saying what's ~bad~ about your shot, just thinking of
looking at things differently if you're presented with an analagous
situation in the future.  Hope you don't mind the critique.<<<


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Re: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist"
Subject: Frightening *istD experience



, then on frame 51 the lcd review
> image  didn't appear. I hit the review button. Nothing happened. I
> looked at the window on the top of the camera. All the data was
still
> in place. I went to take another shot. Nothing. Couldn't raise an
> image, couldn't take a shot. I turned the camera off, then on
again.
> Nothing. Finally, I removed the battery grip and the batteries,
then
> replaced them and turned the camera back on. Everything was fine
after
> that.

I've had it happen once, or perhaps twice.
I'm still not sure what combination of button twiddling brought it
on.
I recall I was also trying to invoke the instant review.

William Robb





Re: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
Actually, I was thinking Zeppo.  Whatever...



-frank

"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: About my name
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:11:12 -0500
Chicco??

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RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Andy Chang
And I forgot one thing...
I want a Xpan as well... 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

I've been thinking about my "lust list" for a while.
I've got mostly the lenses I want for my kind of photography...
Here is what I've got:
Body: LX, ME super SE and MZ-50
Lens: K24/2.8, FA28/2.8AL, A50/1.4, FA50/1.7, FA100/2.8Macro, M200/4,
FA28-200/3.8-5.6AL IF
Flash: AF360FGZ

For the body, I'll definitely get an *istD soon, and a second LX body. Of
course, if I can get my hand on a LX 2000 or a LX Ti, that'll be even
better. I've seen the gold edition, I don't think I would want to have
them... 
For the lenses, I'll probably look for a fisheye lens for the special effect
and a 35mm and 85mm to complete the set.
I would like to collect the 3 LE lenses (who doesn't?) For the * lenses,
I'll only get them when a real bargain comes along... my philosophy is to go
light instead of heavy and bulky.
The MZ-S? only a real bargain can persuade me now... but it was my
priority list last year...

Andy
-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 10:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

i had the FA* 80-200 f2.8. you liked Butch's FA* 300 f4.5 too. maybe you
need both 8-).

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?


> FA* 300/2.8 (or whichever one Herb had 'cause it was sweet)
















Re: 28mm shift price?

2004-03-07 Thread johnf

Sure, read the article.

Then tell us how the guy with the speed graphic would cope with the case
mentioned in the comparison, where the podium was 200' away.  Or what he
would do in the case of equipment failure - the digital outfit includes
two bodies, not just one.
 
By all means perform a comparison - just not apples to oranges.

> I have to laugh at some of the ideas that folks have about what they never have 
> used.
> 
> I had an interesting link to an article about photojournalists comparing a Speed 
> Graphic kit to a Canon Digital kit. The Speed Graphic kit weigthed 17lbs. The 
> digital kit is 59lbs.
> 
> Ah, found the link.
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/essays/vanRiper/020726.htm
> 
> --
> 
> William Robb wrote:
> 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Fred"
> > Subject: Re: 28mm shift price?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>As for the argument that any LF camera can easily accomplish what
> >>only a refined 35mm body with a top-notch lens can accomplish,
> > 
> > well,
> > 
> >>please give me a finely tuned 35mm rig any day, and you may keep
> >>your wooden box and large but semi-engineered lens...
> > 
> > 
> > You might want to look at what companies like Canham and Rodenstock
> > are doing these days before you talk about semi engineered anything.
> > 
> > William Robb
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> graywolf
> http://graywolfphoto.com
> 
> "You might as well accept people as they are,
> you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
> 
> 



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread P Kong
At 04:58 PM 3/7/2004, Petter J. Alling wrote:
I'll give you a straight up trade, FA 20-35 for a K 200-600mm. :)
I wrote:
My goals are to turn my 3rd party lenses into Pentax lenses: FA 20-35 and 
something in the tele end of things.
Hmmm, I'd still need to get something in the tele-end, namely a K200-600 to 
trade for your FA20-35, wouldn't I? Maybe someone on the list has a 
K200-600 and would like to get into a 3-way trade? =)

Pat in SF



Re: Can I use DA 16-45/f4 on my MZ-5?

2004-03-07 Thread alex wetmore
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, William M Kane wrote:
> We've discussed this issue, and decided that the circle created by
> the DA lenses is optimized for the smaller sensor area of the *ist D.
> Therefore, the DA will not produce a full frame image on a normal 35mm
> camera.

You can see this by mounting the DA onto the MZ-5.  Through the
viewfinder you'll see that there is severe vingetting up until about
20mm, and there is still some up until the mid to high 20mm range.

Beyond there it looks like it'll work (I haven't tried it), but it is
an awfully big lens to carry around for such a short functional zoom
range (roughly 28mm to 45mm).

alex



Re: Fairygirl has discovered RAW...

2004-03-07 Thread alex wetmore
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
> Can someone explain to me exactly how RAW works?  I understand that it gives
> you a file that is captured exactly as you see it, without colour
> correction, compression etc.  Does this also mean that the
> contrast/saturation/sharpness/noise reduction settings on the camera are
> irrelevant?

No.  Those settings are saved in the file, and the RAW processor (the
good ones at least) will use those settings in processing the image.
However you can override them in the software, something which you
can't do when shooting JPEG.

> How do the changes you make in the Plug In software (eg,
> saturation/contrast)differ to when you make the same adjustments within PS?

They are done before the image has been processed at all.

As an example, imagine that you shot the image at high contrast and
wanted to make it lower contrast for printing.  Using photoshop you
can't really do this, the highlights and shadows were already blown by
the contrast setting.  You can turn the contrast down, but you won't
get those details back.  With the RAW convertor you can just go select
low contrast and have it reprocess the image.  All of the data that
was ever captured is in that RAW file, so you can adjust the exposure
some more to get the highlight or shadow detail that you want.
Obviously there is a limit.

I think of it somewhat as the difference between shooting slide film
and negative film.  JPEG is like slide film, going back and making
exposure (or color balance) changes is probably going to result in
some artifacts.  With RAW you have a little more exposure latitude and
can correct (to some degree) for shooting mistakes in the RAW
conversion process.

alex



Re: PAW My weekly contribution

2004-03-07 Thread Anthony Farr
Rob,

The curve of the leaf, the stem, the drop of water, and the spider at the
junction of the cross.  What a well conceived composition, are you sure the
spider wasn't following you directions?  Well captured.

When I first formed a domestic relationship with my wife, she had as a
lodger an arachnologist from Poland whose specialty was Jumping Spiders.
How 'inconvenient' for him  that he had to travel to Oceania to
research for his doctorate.  He claimed you could tell a Jumping Spider from
other spiders by the look of intelligence on their faces.

regards,
Anthony Farr

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

(snip)
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=377892&ratings=true
>
(snip)




Re: Another Format Debate (yawn)-was: 28mm shift price?

2004-03-07 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Clark"
Subject: Re: Another Format Debate (yawn)-was: 28mm shift price?


> One reason for shooting 35mm slides is to project 35mm slides at
Camera Club meetings and such like. No other format will fit the
projector ;-)
>

And now this thread has truly morphed away from what it was about to
something that has absolutely nothing to do with the original
question.

William Robb




RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Butch Black

You're not kidding. :)

> -Original Message-
> From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> I had the FA* 80-200 f2.8. you liked Butch's FA* 300 f4.5
> too. maybe you need both 8-).

But I'm not giving mine up :) But you're welcome to use it at the next
NYCPDML meeting

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)




RE: Monopods

2004-03-07 Thread Amita Guha
I looked at the Adorama one but it looked kind of flimsy to me.

> -Original Message-
> From: Butch Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> Adorama makes one based on the linhof design. It's supposed 
> to be very good but I don't know if it would be worth 
> ordering from the USA
> 
> Butch
> 
> Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.
> 
> Hermann Hesse (Demian)
> 
> 
> 



Re: New camera plate announced

2004-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
Herb may have a different take on this Rob, he has more 
experience here. For me, my exposure to the Arca-Swiss 
standard came when I bought an MZ-S from Tom Van Veen - it 
came with a Kirk custom plate attached. I muttered a bit, 
found a way to remove it, and went on with life. Sometime 
latter I realized what a prize i had been gifted.

A big advantage for me is not so much the mount per se, but 
the fact that there are small manufacturers like Kirk who 
make custom-fit brackets for many cameras. Unlike any 
Manfretto camera plate I have ever used, a Kirk (Swiss-Arca 
standard) will not twist when you swing over for a vertical 
shot. The custom plate curves up over the edge of the body, 
preventing rotation...

With respect to the mounting system itself, in my limited 
experience it seems easier and more secure to mount on the 
swiss Arca mount, and there is just the one standard. Five 
or six companies follow that standard. Unlike Manfretto 
where I had to buy new size and shape mounting plates every 
time I got a new head... it was a major breakthrough when 
they came out with new plates that would substitute for two 
old ones, that would mount on two different QR platforms!

If I can fit the tripod in the suitcase, I'll have my Kirk 
ball head with me on my Australia trip.

Stan

Rob Studdert wrote:

On 7 Mar 2004 at 21:22, Herb Chong wrote:


for those of you who are fans of Arca-Swiss QR plates like i am, Kirk Photo has
just announced the PZ-87 for the *istD without battery grip and the PS-88 for
the*istD with battery grip.


Herb,

For those not "in the know" what are the advantages of the Arca-Swiss QR system 
over the Manfrotto snap in system? Also have you used the "L" brackets? I used 
to use the Manfrotto 340 Elbow bracket when I had a P67 but it's not suitable 
(and too heavy) to use with my Mamiya 7 gear. The Kirk plate looks interesting 
but it appears that it will obscure the film spool release like the 340 bracket 
:-(

Also do you know if there is an Arca-Swiss QR compatible ball head that's 
around the same size as the Manfrotto 308RC?

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Steve Jolly
Mark Erickson wrote:
So the 28mm shift lens debate got me thinking about my "lust list," the gear
that I really really want (but probably won't buy).

So what's on your list?
All of it.  And a pony.

S



Re: A3 printers

2004-03-07 Thread Butch Black
Hi Paul

The list price is $1795, I doubt if the street price is much less. Specs are
good 2880 x1440 max resolution, supposed to be faster then my 2200. I've
also been very happy with the ultrachrome inks so far, no complaints re
gamut.

Butch

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RE: PAW #4 - Haley's Ring

2004-03-07 Thread David Madsen
This is what B&W is all about.  I love it!

David Madsen
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-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW #4 - Haley's Ring


I was a bit late on week 3.  Now I'm a bit early on week 4.  Oh well.

"The Kiss" was taken by Shel (and likely thousands before him), but I think
it would have been a good title (have I whetted your appetite yet? ).
So, I settled on "Haley's Ring", a title that I hope raises more questions
than it answers:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2188556

I'd really like to hear your comments on this one.

Okay, Albano, the "right" body, and this time, "the right brand" of lens,
okay?  

cheers,
frank

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Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Steve Jolly
Although I can't comment for the reliability of magazine reviews, 
Amateur Photographer rated the Sigma 12-24 extremely highly.  I don't 
have the magazine accessible right now, but from memory, the vignetting 
was about half a stop (wide open and on a full 35mm frame) and the 
sharpness was very impressive for a zoom (>~30lppm at 50% contrast at 
all apertures and focal lengths; up to ~50lppm at best).  There's a rear 
holder for gelatin filters, but as you say, no good way of attaching a 
filter to the fromt.  I'll dig out the actual figures they measured if 
you (or anyone) are interested.

S

Herb Chong wrote:
i am worried about two things in the Sigma 12-24. many Nikon 12-24 users
have almost a full stop of falloff between the center and the corners when
shooting wide open and it doesn't go away until they stop down to f11. 

next, i am worried that it will be a soft lens even at its sharpest. 

another issue which isn't so important is that i haven't seen any way to put
a filter on front without more than acceptable vignetting. 



RE: PAW.

2004-03-07 Thread David Madsen
I love it!

David Madsen
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-Original Message-
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAW.


Another dark little photo for your enjoyment

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/IMGP2520.html

William Robb



Re: New camera plate announced

2004-03-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 Mar 2004 at 21:22, Herb Chong wrote:

> for those of you who are fans of Arca-Swiss QR plates like i am, Kirk Photo has
> just announced the PZ-87 for the *istD without battery grip and the PS-88 for
> the*istD with battery grip.

Herb,

For those not "in the know" what are the advantages of the Arca-Swiss QR system 
over the Manfrotto snap in system? Also have you used the "L" brackets? I used 
to use the Manfrotto 340 Elbow bracket when I had a P67 but it's not suitable 
(and too heavy) to use with my Mamiya 7 gear. The Kirk plate looks interesting 
but it appears that it will obscure the film spool release like the 340 bracket 
:-(

Also do you know if there is an Arca-Swiss QR compatible ball head that's 
around the same size as the Manfrotto 308RC?

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
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Re: New camera plate announced - KIRK

2004-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
I have their medium size ballhead. Have only had it since 
mid January and it is very little used to date. With *ist-D 
and an FA-80-200/2.8, it seems very stable. I am still 
learning the proper degree of normal 'drag' to set when such 
a heavy kit is mounted.

Stan

Herb Chong wrote:

have you used either of the Kirk ball heads? they certainly get good reviews
by people i respect. i am thinking of getting the BH-3 for my mid-range ball
head on my medium tripod. i'm gearing up to replace my large ball head on my
large tripod with a Wimberly head.
Herb...

PS i have been bugging them too. i like their QR plates because they also
have a 1/4 screw socket for times when you have to borrow someone else's
tripod or use a very small one where it's not worth putting on a QR head.
- Original Message - 
From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: New camera plate announced - KIRK



Thank you! I can now remove from my ToDo list my monthly
item: "bug Kirk about new plates for the *ist-D."







Re: New camera plate announced - KIRK

2004-03-07 Thread Herb Chong
have you used either of the Kirk ball heads? they certainly get good reviews
by people i respect. i am thinking of getting the BH-3 for my mid-range ball
head on my medium tripod. i'm gearing up to replace my large ball head on my
large tripod with a Wimberly head.

Herb...

PS i have been bugging them too. i like their QR plates because they also
have a 1/4 screw socket for times when you have to borrow someone else's
tripod or use a very small one where it's not worth putting on a QR head.

- Original Message - 
From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: New camera plate announced - KIRK


> Thank you! I can now remove from my ToDo list my monthly
> item: "bug Kirk about new plates for the *ist-D."




Re: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread Mark Cassino
I've had similar things happen with both my Pz-1p and Mz-S bodies.  The 
Mz-S once got in a state where the shutter would fire whenever it was 
turned on.  The pz-1p a couple of times locked up similar to what your 
*ist-D did.  Not common at all - maybe once or twice for each body over a 
several year period.  In both cases pulling the batteries resets things.

- MCC

At 03:08 PM 3/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
I was shooting some table top food for stock this afternoon. Had the *ist 
D set to manual. PC cord was attached to one monolight, the others were on 
slave. I shot about 50 frames, then on frame 51 the lcd review 
image  didn't appear. I hit the review button. Nothing happened. I looked 
at the window on the top of the camera. All the data was still in place. I 
went to take another shot. Nothing. Couldn't raise an image, couldn't take 
a shot. I turned the camera off, then on again. Nothing. Finally, I 
removed the battery grip and the batteries, then replaced them and turned 
the camera back on. Everything was fine after that. I shot another 20 
frames or so without incident. It was sort of like a computer freeze. Has 
anyone else experienced anything like that? Could I have caused it by 
pushing the display button repeatedly while the buffer was full? In any 
case, I hope it doesn't happen again.
Paul
-

Mark Cassino Photography

Kalamazoo, MI

http://www.markcassino.com

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Re: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Okay, I missed the obvious. It's you. That makes the somewhat shaky 
lighting excusable. I guess the chair is there to enable a pre-shot 
focus. Very good considering the limitations of a self portrait. Yes, 
the lighting is harsh, but the model is beautiful. You have beautiful 
eyes. I tried to soften the lighting and resolution a bit. My humble 
tweak is here: 
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191699&size=lg
Paul



Selecting the Better Print or Screen Image (was Re: Fw: Re:Emailing :imgp2908WOW)

2004-03-07 Thread Anthony Farr
"graywolf" opined

> I think maybe something about 1/4-1/2 way in between the two images would
work
> better.
>
(snip)

Had to LOL over this one :-)

I quickly learned NEVER to show people/clients/customers two differently
exposed prints and asking which one they preferred.  90% of the time they
would say, as Graywolf did, that something between the two would be better.
Asking the customers opinion almost always meant having to make a 3rd prnt
>:-(

Usually, if I remade a print, I kept the first aside in a box of other 'near
rejects'.  Reviewing them later I often wondered what the hell I thought was
wrong with the rejected print, especially as most non-photographers don't
know crap from clay about picture quality.  Just look at most peoples'
televisions, excess contrast and saturation seem to be the default settings
these days.

regards,
Anthony Farr




Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
I'll give you a straight up trade, FA 20-35 for a K 200-600mm. :)

P Kong wrote:

At 11:18 AM 3/7/2004, "Robert & Leigh Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

(Whew)maybe after graduation???


That's been my motto for the last 4 years. Photography is a bad hobby 
to delve into when you're in pharmacy school. Thankfully, it'll be 
over in under a month.

My goals are to turn my 3rd party lenses into Pentax lenses: FA 20-35 
and something in the tele end of things. But, I'm willing to wait.

Pat in SF






Re: OT Rolleiflex Knowledge

2004-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Sounds like the title of a book, "The Tao of Photography".

Frantisek Vlcek wrote:

I know my Pentaxes can go away someday, but I also
know my Rollei will not. It's impossible to me to sell
it.
Albano
   

Same with me :)

I think Rolleiflex is the most beautiful and functionalistic design
camera. Although I rarely use mine (it's really old now, although it
still functions, an 1937 model I think), I can't see myself parting
with it. I just think that that camera is closely attuned to Tao :)
Frantisek

 





Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
Mine is fairly simple list right now. Very similar to Dag's.

A*-135/1.8
FA* 200/4 macro. Though I could be tempted by an FA* 200/2.8
The two new/forthcoming DA lenses:

DA 16-45/4
DA 14
I would also like a DA 50-150/4 and a DA* 70/2.8 macro.

Second *ist-D body with 10megapix
300gb external storage
Photoshop CS
Stan

Dag T wrote:

På 7. mar. 2004 kl. 18.19 skrev Mark Erickson:

So what's on your list?

Always:
A 15mm (especially after letting one chance go last year)
A 135 1.8
After getting the *istD I have started thing about AF lenses, so:
31, 43 and 77mm (all black, of course :-)
DA 16-45
DA 14
DagT





*istD vs D100 vs 10D "retail" pricing

2004-03-07 Thread Mark Erickson
All,

I popped into my local Ritz camera (a big US retail chain) to get a roll of
film processed (remember film?).  After I got the pics back, I sauntered
over to the camera section to see what they had for sale.  Their digital
camera section was well-laid-out and obviously had a lot of traffic.

Surprisingly, they didn't have the DSLRs in with the other digitals.  Each
was buried in its respective brand-name SLR display with the film cameras.
I was even more surprised at the pricing:  $1499 for the Nikon D100 and the
Canon EOS 10D, and only $1399 for the Pentax *istD.

I'm not sure what it means, but it was interesting

--Mark



RE: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread David Madsen
Hey, I was the one asking about *istD portraits.  These look very nice.  I
especially the studio shots.  The model is very attractive!  She looks a
little familiar...LOL.  Thanks for indulging.

David Madsen
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http://www.davidmadsen.com

-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?



A few weeks ago...

Well, here are some that I took today...

The first gallery is a couple, these are their engagement pics.  They suck
majorly cause there is way too much flash in them.  But, I guess that
happens when they turn up at MIDDAY (4 hours late and then I still had to do
her makeup which takes almost an hour itself!!) for their sitting.  I had to
use HEAPS of flash due to the hugemungo shadows on their faces.  Remember we
are in Outback QLD and at midday today it was approximately 42degrees
celcius with barely a scrap of shade in sight.  So, I found the only shade I
could and spent the whole time swearing under my breath about how beautiful
the light was at 8am when they were supposed to be there!

Exposure varied greatly, but I think they were mostly around f16, 1/150th
(using Tamron 28-200mm asph. f4-5.6, and also old manual Tamron 135mm f
2.5).  Took a couple of shots without flash and the exposure was reading at
f27, 1/750th!!  There was waay too much light to be outside shooting
bloody portraits!

Oh, and they look a bit dark and over saturated on the web on my monitor,
but when working in my lab's colour space in PS they look better...

FYI, there is one shot amongst these that I think is hilarious, I am not
going to point it out, but I am interested to see who notices it first...

Here's the link...

http://www.tanyamayer.com/boothgallery/index.html

Secondly, I managed to rope a model into posing for me so that I could try
out some studio stuff...  Before you go looking for them, there are NO BUTT
SHOTS (or fanny or whatever you refer to it as!) here, and no looking down
her top either ok!

http://www.tanyamayer.com/portrait8march04/index.html

Comments, criticisms, praises, whoops of delight, cries of disgust, threats
of lynching or even pleas that fairygirl be cannonised all welcome...

;-)

tan.



Re: OT - eBay advice sought

2004-03-07 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The father, the photographer, has a web site that 
> does open. This guy is good. Go take a look at his photos.
> 
> www.andreabarghi.com

Ditto. Nice stuff.

Gianfranco


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RE: PAW - week #2 for me

2004-03-07 Thread David Madsen
>I think it's a lovely, poignant moment, well captured by you.

Thank you.

>Is this the b & g's first dance?

No, it is the moment the judge said "you may kiss the bride."

>Like the natural light from the window, and the photographer in the frame 
>adds a nice touch of whimsey.

I liked the other photog in there as well.

David Madsen
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http://www.davidmadsen.com



RE: PAW - week #2 for me

2004-03-07 Thread David Madsen
Wow, thank you.  I'm glad you like it.

David Madsen
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-Original Message-
From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PAW - week #2 for me



David, I strongly disagree here!

It is a fabulous shot, and the focus is just great.  The way the light falls
on said collar and boutonniere assists the focus, with the end result
definitely "working".

Love it.  Thanks for sharing!

tan.


>
>This photo teaches me that I do not focus well in the dark, which the part
>of the shot I was trying to focus on was in.  Shot on an MZ-S with FA 50mm
>f1.4, 60th @ f2, and negative scanned on an Epson 2450.  An f5.6 would have
>saved this shot, but f2 with slightly missed focus made the groom's collar
>and boutonnière the sharpest part of the photo, not the faces.
>
>David Madsen
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>http://www.davidmadsen.com
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RE: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread David Madsen
Happened on my PZ-1P a few times and on my MZ-S once, but never since.

David Madsen
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-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frightening *istD experience


I was shooting some table top food for stock this afternoon. Had the 
*ist D set to manual. PC cord was attached to one monolight, the others 
were on slave. I shot about 50 frames, then on frame 51 the lcd review 
image  didn't appear. I hit the review button. Nothing happened. I 
looked at the window on the top of the camera. All the data was still 
in place. I went to take another shot. Nothing. Couldn't raise an 
image, couldn't take a shot. I turned the camera off, then on again. 
Nothing. Finally, I removed the battery grip and the batteries, then 
replaced them and turned the camera back on. Everything was fine after 
that. I shot another 20 frames or so without incident. It was sort of 
like a computer freeze. Has anyone else experienced anything like that? 
Could I have caused it by pushing the display button repeatedly while 
the buffer was full? In any case, I hope it doesn't happen again.
Paul 



Re: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
I want to tell about another semi-frightening experience I had with my istD: I 
had used it a bit in the rain and then it wouldn't fire the AF360FGZ flash, 
except in A mode. The flash worked fine on my MZ-S. I was just about to have 
it repaired, but put it off as I don't use flash that much.
Then yesterday it wouldn't autofocus with my FA50mm lens, although it would 
wth my 24-90. At this point, I thought some of the contacts might be dirty, 
but it didn't explain the flash misfiring.
It turned out it was just the batteries. As soon as I put fresh ones in the 
camera everything worked fine.
I've made a mental note to suspect the batteries every time something strange 
happens with the istD.

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keep.- Scott Adams (1957 - ), 'The Dilbert Principle'





Re: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend.....

2004-03-07 Thread bransky
Frank, thank you for your thorough and helpful critique.  I really appreciate it, and 
your points are well taken.  I did
take a picture showing the face of the middle boy after the 1st shot, see link below.  
I like the other one better, but you
might see it differently.  The boy with the bow is my son, he's used to me taking 
pictures, but the other two aren't, so I
sort of slunk around and grabbed these shots, and that's probably exactly why these in 
the end are just backyard snapshots,
albeit ones that bring a smile to my face.

Again, great to hear your thoughts and suggestions,

Aaron Bransky


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191550&size=lg

  (from Frank T.)
Unfortunately, it's due to that angle that things sort of fall apart for me.
  Other than the title, it's really hard to see what the bow and arrow boy
is doing.  Yes, I know we can see the target, but that's really not enough
of a clue for people like me .  I can't tell what he's up to.

We also can't see anyone's face - not that that's always a bad thing, but in
this case, I think that much of what's happening in the kids' minds could be
reflected on their faces.  I know you were trying to get all three of them
in the shot, which idea has some merit, but in this case, it might have been
nice to get tight into one or more of their faces, or at least much closer
than you were.

Even though I posted previously saying I hate it when people tell me "I
would have taken the shot such-and-such a way", I'm going to come perilously
close to doing just that.

Next time, maybe forget about the target, and get beside the kids (like to
the left of the shooter).  Try to get all three of them in profile (it looks
like they would have been nicely lined up for that).  With a bit of moving
around, you might have been able to capture much more emotion than you did.
I think you saw a scene with lots of great elements, but didn't know what to
do with it - that's the impression I get anyway.

This isn't a bad shot, but to me (and this is just a personal opinion),
you're really close to raising it from a backyard snapshot to a statement
about boys and their toys.  I think you wanted to, but for whatever reason
didn't exactly know what to do.

OTOH, you may have shots on your disk that are closer to what I'm thinking,
and if so, it would be great to see them.

And, again, I'm not saying what's ~bad~ about your shot, just thinking of
looking at things differently if you're presented with an analagous
situation in the future.  Hope you don't mind the critique.<<<





Re: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Stan. That could be it. I'm always changing the Tv wheel. When 
I'm shooting in the studio, I have it set at 1/125. I shoot and the 
flash doen't  go off. I look at my display, and it's 1/180. I think I 
hit the wheel when I go for the shutter.
Paul
On Mar 7, 2004, at 6:50 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

I think it is because of the on-off switch on the grip. Or is it the 
Av or Tv wheel? In any case, if one of those three controls on the 
grip gets nudged to an intermediary position between stops, then it 
locks the camera. Fiddle with the wheels, or the grip on-off, and it 
should unlock.

Stan

Paul Stenquist wrote:
I was shooting some table top food for stock this afternoon. Had the 
*ist D set to manual. PC cord was attached to one monolight, the 
others were on slave. I shot about 50 frames, then on frame 51 the 
lcd review image  didn't appear. I hit the review button. Nothing 
happened. I looked at the window on the top of the camera. All the 
data was still in place. I went to take another shot. Nothing. 
Couldn't raise an image, couldn't take a shot. I turned the camera 
off, then on again. Nothing. Finally, I removed the battery grip and 
the batteries, then replaced them and turned the camera back on. 
Everything was fine after that. I shot another 20 frames or so 
without incident. It was sort of like a computer freeze. Has anyone 
else experienced anything like that? Could I have caused it by 
pushing the display button repeatedly while the buffer was full? In 
any case, I hope it doesn't happen again.
Paul




Re: This afternoons fruit shoot

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Frank. The *ist-D is proving its value in the studio. Instant  
evaluation is an inestimably valuable tool. As far as amazing detail is  
concerned, it's that great fifty buck lens -- the K 50/1.4.
Paul

On Mar 7, 2004, at 5:56 PM, frank theriault wrote:

That is amazing detail.  You'd swear you could reach out and touch  
them, Paul!  Such lifelike colours!

It's a deceivingly simple composition, I think.  It appears to be just  
a jumble of fruit, but it really works nicely!

Thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The  
pessimist fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: This afternoons fruit shoot
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:44:32 -0500
Fruit Salad in the studio:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191232&size=lg
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Re: OT: Ebay Aphorisms.

2004-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
#10 The secret of happiness is having a fast net connection 
and being able to snipe a good lens with 1 second to go.

Fred Widall wrote:

Over my morning coffee I was pondering and came up with the
following observations on an ebay universe.
Please feel free to add to them

EBAY APHORISMS
--
1) Everything has some value.
2) One person's junk is another's treasure.
3) One person's treasure is another's junk.
4) The past never really disappears, just gets recycled.
5) Once in a lifetime opportunities come along about once a week.
6) The difference between a 'need' and 'want' is really very small.
7) Life is full of deadlines.
8) The most important details are in the smallest print.
9) The secret of happiness is knowing when you own enough cameras.
--
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Re: OT - eBay advice saught

2004-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
The buyer, the musician, has a web site that doesn't open 
for me. The father, the photographer, has a web site that 
does open. This guy is good. Go take a look at his photos.

www.andreabarghi.com

Stan

Cotty wrote:

Update:

Gianfranco kindly translated some text into Italian for me and I emailed
the buyer again. This time (perhaps by chance - Sunday evening) he
replied, thus:

Hi,

I'm sorry If i didn't understand and I'm sorry I can't buy your items.

I haven't any address in GB.

I'd like to buy the 85mm 'cause is a present for my father, famous
photographer.
This is his website www.andreabarghi.com and this is my website
www.nicolabarghi.com
Tell what oyu want to do.

See you

Nicola Barghi - Kriminal1980


I have emailed him back and said that if he can pay in GBP or GBP int.
money order, he can have it.
I'm waiting to hear back.

Thank you to all the people who responded with help. You know who you are.



Cheers,
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Re: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Secondly, I managed to rope a model into posing for me so that I could try
> out some studio stuff...  Before you go looking for them, there are NO BUTT
> SHOTS (or fanny or whatever you refer to it as!) here, and no looking down
> her top either ok!
> 
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/portrait8march04/index.html

I recognise her! I think I got another shot of her on my hard drive somewhere.
Cute! But too little of b.b:s for my taste

Lasse





Re: Monopods

2004-03-07 Thread Butch Black
Adorama makes one based on the linhof design. It's supposed to be very good
but I don't know if it would be worth ordering from the USA

Butch

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself.

Hermann Hesse (Demian)




Re: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread Stan Halpin
I think it is because of the on-off switch on the grip. Or 
is it the Av or Tv wheel? In any case, if one of those three 
controls on the grip gets nudged to an intermediary position 
between stops, then it locks the camera. Fiddle with the 
wheels, or the grip on-off, and it should unlock.

Stan

Paul Stenquist wrote:
I was shooting some table top food for stock this afternoon. Had the 
*ist D set to manual. PC cord was attached to one monolight, the others 
were on slave. I shot about 50 frames, then on frame 51 the lcd review 
image  didn't appear. I hit the review button. Nothing happened. I 
looked at the window on the top of the camera. All the data was still in 
place. I went to take another shot. Nothing. Couldn't raise an image, 
couldn't take a shot. I turned the camera off, then on again. Nothing. 
Finally, I removed the battery grip and the batteries, then replaced 
them and turned the camera back on. Everything was fine after that. I 
shot another 20 frames or so without incident. It was sort of like a 
computer freeze. Has anyone else experienced anything like that? Could I 
have caused it by pushing the display button repeatedly while the buffer 
was full? In any case, I hope it doesn't happen again.
Paul




RE: Minolta Scanners

2004-03-07 Thread Alan Chan
Go for Elite models if possible because Dual models do not have hardware 
ICE.

Regards,
Alan Chan
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I have a friend shopping for a film scanner. He has narrrowed his search to
two offerings from Minolta:
DiMage Scan Dual III

DiMage Scan Elite 5400

Any firsthand use/opinions from list members???
I have read photographyreview.com.
The 5400 gets a 4.8 with 5 ratings.
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Re: Pictures of a girl

2004-03-07 Thread Lasse Karlsson
You are both quite right, Anders and Frank.
I was very much aware of that "heroic" or "propagandistic" aspect, as you call it, 
while shooting, although I didn't really beforehand set out to do it "in that style".
Not only was this a feature of many nazi propaganda images, but also, and even earlier 
very common in early communist propaganda images. (And you can trace this "style" 
further back if you care to.)
You can actually see this "style" being used all over the world in various 
"idealistic" political and religious image making. Not at all that uncommon in 
"Star-portraits" and advertising too.
The picture you referred to, the last of the posted ones, was the first of a series of 
similar full body shots. Some of them came out very well.
I simply - on the spot - arranged a number of various "set ups" for her. It was a test 
shoot for both of us.
You guys want to see how she runs on the water?

Lasse

From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anders,
> Yes!  Yes!  Yes!
> 
> I looked at these photos last night, and didn't really know what to say, but 
> you've done it for me.
> 
> There's a certain "heroic" aspect to this series as a whole (especially the 
> last one) that has an almost propagandistic feel about them.  Almost like 
> Reifenstal (sp?), but of course, not in a bad way, just stylistically.
> 
> Thanks for voicing what I couldn't.
> frank
 
> >From: Anders Hultman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >On Mar 5, 2004, at 8:30 PM, Lasse Karlsson wrote:
> > > Sometimes you don't know what to think about your photos. (...)
> > > Any comments welcome.
> >
> >I like them; they give me an impression of a joyful play with photographic
> >stereotypes. The archetypical athlete portait, the archetypcial strong
> >youth, and with a touch of propaganda estethic as well.
> >
> >On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > > They're all quite nice. Great combination of colors, said the Swede.
> >
> >The colors are those of the Ålandish flag, actually.
> >Yellow and blue, plus a bit of red as well.
> >anders




Re: 28mm shift price?

2004-03-07 Thread graywolf
See once again we are dealing with internet wisdom, rather than real world 
experience. At one time, I had that Schneider 90mm Angulon along with a 4x5 
Super Technika. There were no movements on the ST that were out of range of the 
Angulon at f16 and smaller. Right now I have a Crown Graphic with a 135/4.7 
Optar which you can find hundred of comments on the internet that it will not 
allow movements. Funny thing is there are no movements on the Crown that I have 
tried that it will not cover. Oh yes, more modern lenses have better coverage, 
but so what? The problem is this perceived need for theoretical perfection, 
rather than for real world good enough. Of course it is much easier to blame the 
equipment rather than our own limitations.

--

Mark Erickson wrote:

$500 shift lens (exc+ condition) + $300 camera body (new) = $800.  That
includes a camera, film holder, and a pretty darn nice lightmeter.  I dare
you to find me a field camera, 90-100mm lens with sufficient coverage for
significant shifting (e.g., a Schneider 90mm f6.8 Angulon isn't good
enough), readyload or quickload holder, dark cloth, and a lightmeter that
includes average and spotmetering, all in exc+ to new shape for $800.
--
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http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Rob Studdert
On 7 Mar 2004 at 9:19, Mark Erickson wrote:

> So what's on your list?

A short AF macro lens, 50mm or shorter (if only Pal was reading this :-)

A fast wide angle lens with low CA

A full frame K mount digital SLR (14MP would be nice)


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



14mm for *ist D

2004-03-07 Thread cloversan


Hello guys,

Do you think it is better to wait for the Pentax one or buy now the Tamron
which is full size ?

Thanks 



RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Ewins

1. Super Takumar 6x7 lenses - I want at least one to go with my first
version 6x7.

2. Jobo 3010 expert drum - the one for 4x5. Unfortunately this costs way
too much for a piece of plastic with no moving parts, so even on eBay I
end up passing them by.

3. The SA1, SA3 and SB screens for the MX. One day I'll find a seller
who isn't in Europe and will accept PayPal.

To be honest, none of this is stuff I really lust after, it's all "nice
to have" stuff. I've had a really good run of bargains in the last 12
months and got just about everything I wanted.

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia  




Re: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread Cotty
>
>>Sir Robin (I mean Cotty) screeched in shrill fashion:
>>
>>>Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!

>Cotty,
>
>AARRRGGGHHH!!
>
>-frank


Oh, go bring me some shrubbery.



Cheers,
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RE: This afternoons fruit shoot

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
That is amazing detail.  You'd swear you could reach out and touch them, 
Paul!  Such lifelike colours!

It's a deceivingly simple composition, I think.  It appears to be just a 
jumble of fruit, but it really works nicely!

Thanks,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: This afternoons fruit shoot
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:44:32 -0500
Fruit Salad in the studio:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191232&size=lg
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Re: OT Language WAS Re: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread graywolf
Yep.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Graywolf shared:

Interesting comment, Frank. The peasants spoke Russian, and the Nobles spoke 
French. That is why they rebelled (grin). Come to think of it the same thing 
happened in England much earlier. Sir Walter Scott wrote an amusing chapter 
about this language phenomenon in one of his books.


You mean in "Ivanhoe" where the jester talks about how animals have Saxon names 
but their meat becomes French when served to the Normans?

A recent discussion with my son brought this to mind.

ERN


--
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you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



RE: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Ewins
The very upper crust British firm of "Dunhill" actually derives from the
post-1066 Norman habit of arbitrarily giving Saxons humorous/offensive
surnames; in this case "dung hill" so that scene may be not so far from
the truth!

Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia 

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Reminds me one of the early scenes of Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

'Bow before the King"

"How did you know that was the King?"

"He's the only one without shit on his clothes."





This afternoons fruit shoot

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fruit Salad in the studio:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191232&size=lg


Re: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Mar 7, 2004, at 4:02 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Thanks Paul!  But they could've been so much better, I thought...

BTW, what did you think of the studio ones?

tan.


The poses, composition and framing are nice. But I found the light a 
little hard on these. (In truth the outdoor with the combination of 
fill flash and the big light box in the sky seemed more successful.} My 
favorite of the studios pics was 1bwsmall. The color frames seemed a 
bit harsh. What kind of light did you use? It seems a bit direct. 
Reflectors, soft boxes, and diffusion are your best bet for studio 
portraits. You can still have light direction, but the diffusion keeps 
it soft.
Paul



RE: WOW: (Was: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend use a bow and arrow

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
Lasse and Aaron,

That crop works really well.  Much stronger than the uncropped, imho.

Maybe my comments were a bit OTT.  Getting rid of right hand boy to 
concentrate on the two "main characters" of the story really makes a huge 
positive difference!

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WOW: (Was: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend use a bow and 
arrow
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:16:45 +0200

From: "bransky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Anyway, here's a picture I grabbed in the backyard last summer.  I liked
> the way how the posture of one of my son's friends showed how he was
> interested in yet repelled by the bow and arrow.   Here's the link, I
> think it should work.
>
> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2190917&size=lg
Hi Aaron,

I think I can see what you saw. Unfortunately the small size of the 
uploaded poicture makes it a bit difficult getting close enough.
The posture of the boy is a good example of how perceptive we humans (or 
any animal I guess) are to body language/postures, just as we are to 
(varioius sounds of) voices or facial expressions etc.
I think you did a good job in catching that moment.
However, I took the liberty to give your picture a WOW just to show one way 
of dealing with it. You can see it at:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2191144&size=lg

Hope you don't mind,
Lasse

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Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Paul Stenquist
What are the dimensions of A3? I think they're within the range of the 
2200.

On Mar 7, 2004, at 3:36 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion Paul, but I am going to get myself something 
that
can handle prints up to A3 - hence the extra price tag.  There are a 
few
models in the running right now and all are between aud$900 and aud 
$1100.

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 5:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?
I think the Epson 2200 will give you prints that are quite "sellable"
for around $500 US. Of course you're limited to 13x18.
Paul
On Mar 7, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
I have a "wish list" taped next to my computer monitor to keep me
motivated.
I have been fortunate enough to cross a number of things off it this
year
already!
At the minute it looks like this: (I have the item written and then
how much
I am willing to pay for it (AUD) next to it)
Battery grip for *istD 
 $250.00
Ambient/flash Lightmeter - a decent one, probably a Sekonic or Minolta
$400.00
Underwater Housing for Oly E10  $350.00
Pentax DA 16-45mm f4 OR Tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4 Di$700.00
Flashgun for the Oly E-10  
 $400.00
Pentax FA 100mm f2.8 macro 
 $300.00
Pentax FA 77mm ltd f1.8
 $ some astronomical amount of money!
Pentax FA 24-90 f3.2-4.5 OR Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 xr Di macro $800.00
Decent printer (that can print SELLABLE prints) 
$1100.00
Large Softbox  
 $ 200.00
Snoot, honeycomb and coloured gels 
 $ 250.00
DVD Burner 
 $ 600.00
2gb CF card
 $ 600.00
A second Pentax AF360fgz flash gun 
 $ 450.00
Flashbracket/hotshoe adapter/cables etc $ 
150.00
plus lots more that I add to my list every day!

Phew, I'm going to bed, it is 4am here!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 3:19 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss
Subject: What gear is on your "lust list" ?
So the 28mm shift lens debate got me thinking about my "lust list,"
the gear
that I really really want (but probably won't buy).  Here it is in no
particular order:
  Item  Why
  ---
  Pentax SMC-A 15mm Indoor shots and big stuff
  Pentax 28mm shift not really sure--but it's cool

  Voigtlander Bessa-L   US$420 for camera and lens:
  and 15mm F4.5 lensthe ultimate compact wde
angle system for the money.
  *ist DNeed I explain?

  Wide Rolleiflex   Compact 55mm 6x6 system, plus
it's a Rollei
So what's on your list?








RE: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread Jens Bladt
Has (recently) happened to my PZ-1 as well...
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 7. marts 2004 21:51
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: RE: Frightening *istD experience


> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Finally, I removed the battery grip and the
> batteries, then replaced them and turned the camera back on.
> Everything was fine after that. I shot another 20 frames or
> so without incident. It was sort of like a computer freeze.
> Has anyone else experienced anything like that?

Only with my 645N. It will occasionally freeze up and can only be "rebooted"
by removing the batteries.

tv





Re: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread mike wilson
Rob Studdert wrote:
> 
> On 8 Mar 2004 at 3:36, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:
> 
> > Secondly, I managed to rope a model into posing for me so that I could try
> > out some studio stuff...  Before you go looking for them, there are NO BUTT
> > SHOTS (or fanny or whatever you refer to it as!) here, and no looking down her
> > top either ok!
> >
> > http://www.tanyamayer.com/portrait8march04/index.html
> 
> What I can't understand is how you got the model to sit still for so long, LOL
> :-)
> 
> I can't see the cable release in one shot, well done!

Self timer, I think.  You've got that slightly haunted "did I get back
in frame in time" look.

A good job, Tanya.

mike



Re: PAW - Hershey's Rapids

2004-03-07 Thread mike wilson
Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> WR> I think Cotty is spending too much time at the Scoff and Quaff.
> WR> WW
> 
> You're mean, Bill. I am telling you, you're mean.
> 
> Now, what is it Quaff then?

Like scoff but liquid.



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread graywolf
The new Rolleiwide FW is, I think, in current production, as is the Rolleiflex 
FX a new version of the F. If you want a Tele-Rolleiflex you still have to find 
an old one.

--

Keith Whaley wrote:



Mark Erickson wrote:

[. . .]

 Wide Rolleiflex   Compact 55mm 6x6 system, plus
   it's a Rollei
 

Produced in 1961 - '67, there were less than 4000 made, and the prices 
show it!
McKeown lists them at  US$800-1200, in 1987-'88 time frame.
The 55mm in the 6x6 cm format is approx. equivalent to a 35mm f/l in a 
135mm camera.
I keep my eye open for a good Rollei,  but good ones are a little 
scarce. . .

keith whaley


--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



RE: Very late March PUG offering :)

2004-03-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Cory, the link doesn't work for me...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 7:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Very late March PUG offering :)


Here's my portrait for the March PUG.  I can never seem to get them in on
time.  My daughter Dana took this today with the *ist D and my F35-80.  It's
me and my other one Emily.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/123723043tfkSFY

Whoever maintains the PDML portraits page can add this one if you choose.

Cory




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Re: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread mike wilson
Hi,

Boris Liberman wrote:
> 
> Frank, some years ago my wife and I went to Dijon for vacation. We
> were amazed about how many words in Russian are actually on loan from
> French.

And the other way round

_Allegedly_ the word "bistro" derives from the Russian "bistra", meaning
"hurry".  Used by Russian soldiers during the Napoleonic wars when they
were following the French retreat and getting the locals to feed them.

Told to me by a Russian.  There may be other explanations.

mike



RE: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend use a bow and arrow

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Aaron,

Well, as far as the technical "how to get this stuff scanned and onto a 
site" thing, I'm not your guy.

After what I'm about to say WRT your photo, well, you'll probably still 
think I'm not your guy .

Here goes:

There are things I like about it.  I like the two boys off to the right.  
Far right watches with a sort of feigned "whatever" look, when I think he's 
really into the whole thing.  A sort of fake aloofness if you will (kids 
think they're so good at that, but we adults know they're not really...)

The middle boy, as you say, seems at once interested and repelled by the 
whole thing.

I like the out of focus target, and the way it works with your camera angle, 
almost directly behind the boy shooting the arrow.

Unfortunately, it's due to that angle that things sort of fall apart for me. 
 Other than the title, it's really hard to see what the bow and arrow boy 
is doing.  Yes, I know we can see the target, but that's really not enough 
of a clue for people like me .  I can't tell what he's up to.

We also can't see anyone's face - not that that's always a bad thing, but in 
this case, I think that much of what's happening in the kids' minds could be 
reflected on their faces.  I know you were trying to get all three of them 
in the shot, which idea has some merit, but in this case, it might have been 
nice to get tight into one or more of their faces, or at least much closer 
than you were.

Even though I posted previously saying I hate it when people tell me "I 
would have taken the shot such-and-such a way", I'm going to come perilously 
close to doing just that.

Next time, maybe forget about the target, and get beside the kids (like to 
the left of the shooter).  Try to get all three of them in profile (it looks 
like they would have been nicely lined up for that).  With a bit of moving 
around, you might have been able to capture much more emotion than you did. 
I think you saw a scene with lots of great elements, but didn't know what to 
do with it - that's the impression I get anyway.

This isn't a bad shot, but to me (and this is just a personal opinion), 
you're really close to raising it from a backyard snapshot to a statement 
about boys and their toys.  I think you wanted to, but for whatever reason 
didn't exactly know what to do.

OTOH, you may have shots on your disk that are closer to what I'm thinking, 
and if so, it would be great to see them.

And, again, I'm not saying what's ~bad~ about your shot, just thinking of 
looking at things differently if you're presented with an analagous 
situation in the future.  Hope you don't mind the critique.

And, of course, consider the source of this (me).  I rarely know much about 
anything, let alone how to take a picture.Let the real photogs on 
this list tell you how to do it!

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: bransky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: First PAW -- Boys watching their friend use a bow and arrow
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:45:57 -0600
Hello all:

OK, Stan, Frank and Boris encouraged me to post a photo, so I went over
to Walgreens (a US drug store chain, chemist for our friends in the UK
if I recall), and for $4 got some of my negatives scanned onto a CD,
then used a freeware program called EasyPhoto for my Mac to reduce the
file size.  No cropping, etc.  I really have no idea what I am doing
with this digitizing stuff or if there are better ways to compress the
original image.  The original print looks better but so be it.
Anyway, here's a picture I grabbed in the backyard last summer.  I liked
the way how the posture of one of my son's friends showed how he was
interested in yet repelled by the bow and arrow.   Here's the link, I
think it should work.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2190917&size=lg

Suggestions, critiques, help welcome.

Thanks,

Aaron Bransky

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Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread P Kong
At 10:11 AM 3/7/2004, Boris wrote:
So here goes. My lust list currently is almost empty. I am after
28-70/4 so that I can sell my Sigma zoom. The only reason I want that
lens is because of its size and because unlike Sigma zoom that I have
it can work with built-in flash of my MZ-6.
You could always buy mine after selling the Sigma. The FA 28-70/4 is 
smaller, lighter, and shorter than the Sigma and doesn't zoom creep.  
But you knew that already.

Pat in SF



Re: Are Canon owners really this stupid?

2004-03-07 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote:
> 
> >Your spell checker is prescient.  Grin.
> >
> >Peter J. Alling wrote:
> >
> >> By the way my spell checker wants Cotty to equal Dotty.  (I'm glad I
> >> notice that).
> 
> If it new me better it would say Botty

You proofreading's still no good.  That should be Batty. 8-)



WOW: Kevin's Picture Results

2004-03-07 Thread Kevin Thornsberry
WOWers

Thanks to all of you who gave of your time to give my picture a try.  Seeing it
through your eyes has helped me to see it a little differently.  When I can, I
think I'll go back and rescan it balanced to colors a little more like what most
of you have tried to achieve post scan.

This link will take you to all of the responses I received and includes whatever
explaination I was given.

http://thornsberry.smugmug.com/gallery/78375/1/2720178

I've included my own attempt.

Feel free to comment here or in the gallery itself on what you like and don't
like.  I have found this very educational.

Kevin




Very late March PUG offering :)

2004-03-07 Thread cbwaters
Here's my portrait for the March PUG.  I can never seem to get them in on
time.  My daughter Dana took this today with the *ist D and my F35-80.  It's
me and my other one Emily.
http://community.webshots.com/photo/93489626/123723043tfkSFY

Whoever maintains the PDML portraits page can add this one if you choose.

Cory




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Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread mike wilson
Linhof 6x17
with all the lenses
and the ability to use it



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread graywolf
1. Beech D-18
2. Gannet Super Widgeon
3. Super Cub on floats
4. Cessna 185
5. Cape Cod Catboat
6. 25 ton baldheaded schooner yacht
7. Home in the upper midwest lake country
8. Home on the southern US alantic coast
9. Home somewhere here in the mountains
10. All the cameras and accessories I once had.
11. All the cameras and accessories I have wanted and never had.
12. Nice photo studio and darkroom
13. Small machine shop
14. A collection of 1950's sports cars
15. Riding horses and dogs, and a staff to take care of them
16. A beautiful, loving, supportive, undemanding wife or girlfriend
17. Enough money that all of the above is only pocket change
18. To be 30 again so I can enjoy it (would not want to be younger than that).
19. A 1000 meter flying saucer style interstellar space ship
20. Everything else I forgot to mention
What would I settle for?
What I have (realistically, I am now, except for money, better off than I have 
been most of my life).





Mark Erickson wrote:

So the 28mm shift lens debate got me thinking about my "lust list," the gear
that I really really want (but probably won't buy).  Here it is in no
particular order:
  Item  Why
  ---
  Pentax SMC-A 15mm Indoor shots and big stuff
  Pentax 28mm shift not really sure--but it's cool

  Voigtlander Bessa-L   US$420 for camera and lens:
  and 15mm F4.5 lensthe ultimate compact wde
angle system for the money.
  *ist DNeed I explain?

  Wide Rolleiflex   Compact 55mm 6x6 system, plus
it's a Rollei
So what's on your list?



--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread P Kong
At 11:18 AM 3/7/2004, "Robert & Leigh Woerner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(Whew)maybe after graduation???
That's been my motto for the last 4 years. Photography is a bad hobby to 
delve into when you're in pharmacy school. Thankfully, it'll be over in 
under a month.

My goals are to turn my 3rd party lenses into Pentax lenses: FA 20-35 and 
something in the tele end of things. But, I'm willing to wait.

Pat in SF



RE: PAE #?

2004-03-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
I love it Chris, with just one small thing...

The tree to the left looks a bit strange due to it actually being taller
than the skyscrapers, for me, it puts the perspective out a little.  Maybe
(I'm not sure where you were standing), you could have moved a little more
to the right to not include the tree in the frame?  Just by changing the
angle, you should still have been able to keep all of the sunset and the
rays, cityscape etc in the frame...  Although then the light may have been
coming through the clouds differently...  I have no idea, just ignore me, I
am thinking out loud and talking rubbish, I fear! lol...

Nice shot!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 6 March 2004 10:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAE #?


Loved the light on this one.Comments welcome.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2152234

Regards Chris K





Re: OT Rolleiflex Knowledge

2004-03-07 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
> I know my Pentaxes can go away someday, but I also
> know my Rollei will not. It's impossible to me to sell
> it.
> 
> Albano

Same with me :)

I think Rolleiflex is the most beautiful and functionalistic design
camera. Although I rarely use mine (it's really old now, although it
still functions, an 1937 model I think), I can't see myself parting
with it. I just think that that camera is closely attuned to Tao :)

Frantisek



RE: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Thanks Paul!  But they could've been so much better, I thought...

BTW, what did you think of the studio ones?

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 5:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?


They look very nice on my monitor. Nice range of shadow and highlight. 
Good job. Attractive couple.
On Mar 7, 2004, at 12:36 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

>
> A few weeks ago...
>
> Well, here are some that I took today...
>
> The first gallery is a couple, these are their engagement pics.  They 
> suck
> majorly cause there is way too much flash in them.  But, I guess that
> happens when they turn up at MIDDAY (4 hours late and then I still had 
> to do
> her makeup which takes almost an hour itself!!) for their sitting.  I 
> had to
> use HEAPS of flash due to the hugemungo shadows on their faces.  
> Remember we
> are in Outback QLD and at midday today it was approximately 42degrees
> celcius with barely a scrap of shade in sight.  So, I found the only 
> shade I
> could and spent the whole time swearing under my breath about how 
> beautiful
> the light was at 8am when they were supposed to be there!
>
> Exposure varied greatly, but I think they were mostly around f16, 
> 1/150th
> (using Tamron 28-200mm asph. f4-5.6, and also old manual Tamron 135mm f
> 2.5).  Took a couple of shots without flash and the exposure was 
> reading at
> f27, 1/750th!!  There was waay too much light to be outside 
> shooting
> bloody portraits!
>
> Oh, and they look a bit dark and over saturated on the web on my 
> monitor,
> but when working in my lab's colour space in PS they look better...
>
> FYI, there is one shot amongst these that I think is hilarious, I am 
> not
> going to point it out, but I am interested to see who notices it 
> first...
>
> Here's the link...
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/boothgallery/index.html
>
> Secondly, I managed to rope a model into posing for me so that I could 
> try
> out some studio stuff...  Before you go looking for them, there are NO 
> BUTT
> SHOTS (or fanny or whatever you refer to it as!) here, and no looking 
> down
> her top either ok!
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/portrait8march04/index.html
>
> Comments, criticisms, praises, whoops of delight, cries of disgust, 
> threats
> of lynching or even pleas that fairygirl be cannonised all welcome...
>
> ;-)
>
> tan.
>




Re: Sigma 12-24 (Was What gear is on your "lust list" ?)

2004-03-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Mar 7, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but it's huge (compared to the upcoming DA lens) and not very good
>> compared to OEM primes. Of course, there's no telling how good the
>> Pentax 14mm will be...
>
>Huge has never been a problem for me.

Another thing to consider is the lack of front filter thread: The Sigma
got the bulging front element of a super-wide full-frame lens. The
Pentax 14mm DA lens has a relatively flat front element and a 77mm
filter size.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography

Margus, I have seen "Excellent +" FA 100m f2.8 Macro lenses at KEH.com and
Adorama, and also on Ebay for between aud$250 and $300.  I doubt that I
would buy it new, thus I have "given" myself approximately aud$300 to spend
on the lens.

As for dvd burners, if you can show me somewhere to buy one for aud$150, I
will jump for joy.  (You Do mean a DVD burner and not a CD burner don't
you?!?)
I haven't seen one within Australia for less than $300 and anything that is
of a decent speed and brand is around the $400-$500 mark.  For example:

http://www.iswh.com.au/nav/productinfo.asp?code=197390

http://www.iswh.com.au/nav/productinfo.asp?code=211146


Oh, also forgot for my "lust list" -

Wacom Graphire 3 tablet and stylus (they come in pink! lol) $200


and there was something else that I remembered but then forgot just as
quickly!  Sleep deprivation will do that to you I guess!

tan.




-Original Message-
From: Margus Mannik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 5:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?


Hi there,

nice list, strange prices :)

Can you tell me , where can I get FA100 Macro for $300 ???
same time, DVD burners go for around 150 nowadays.

BR, [EMAIL PROTECTED] just bought a burner & dreamin' about FA100/2.8 Macro

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

> I have a "wish list" taped next to my computer monitor to keep me
motivated.
> I have been fortunate enough to cross a number of things off it this year
> already!
>
> At the minute it looks like this: (I have the item written and then how
much
> I am willing to pay for it (AUD) next to it)
>
> Battery grip for *istD
$250.00
> Ambient/flash Lightmeter - a decent one, probably a Sekonic or Minolta
> $400.00
> Underwater Housing for Oly E10
$350.00
> Pentax DA 16-45mm f4 OR Tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4 Di
$700.00
> Flashgun for the Oly E-10
$400.00
> Pentax FA 100mm f2.8 macro
$300.00
> Pentax FA 77mm ltd f1.8
$ some astronomical amount of money!
> Pentax FA 24-90 f3.2-4.5 OR Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 xr Di macro
$800.00
> Decent printer (that can print SELLABLE prints)
$1100.00
> Large Softbox
$ 200.00
> Snoot, honeycomb and coloured gels
$ 250.00
> DVD Burner
$ 600.00
> 2gb CF card
$ 600.00
> A second Pentax AF360fgz flash gun
$ 450.00
> Flashbracket/hotshoe adapter/cables etc
$ 150.00
>
> plus lots more that I add to my list every day!
>
> Phew, I'm going to bed, it is 4am here!



RE: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
I like the wedding pics.

Especially the less "formal" ones, where they let down their guard a bit.  
I'm sure they'll be pleased as punch with all of them, even with the blown 
out over-exposed patch of grass in the background of some of them (but hell, 
what can you do?).

The B&W's work much better WRT that blown out grass, BTW.  It's much less 
obtrusive than in colour, IMHO.  OTOH, I still don't like what digital does 
to or with b&w.  Still, they're all very nice shots.

Nice work, Tan.

The glam shots with the model do less for me, but that's really a personal 
bias.  I'm just not much of a model person (photographically speaking - I 
mean if a model came up to me and wanted to go for a beer, that would be 
fine ).  They're competently done, to be sure - I would even say 
professionally done, but this type of work just lacks "soul" to me in most 
cases.  Sometimes I'll see something that grabs me and slaps me in the face, 
and this just doesn't for me.

Well done, but not what I need to wake me up - but as I said, personal bias 
more than the quality of your work, I assure you.

Still, you axed for comments .

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Somebody asked about *istD portrait pics?
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 03:36:44 +1000
A few weeks ago...

Well, here are some that I took today...

The first gallery is a couple, these are their engagement pics.  They suck
majorly cause there is way too much flash in them.  But, I guess that
happens when they turn up at MIDDAY (4 hours late and then I still had to 
do
her makeup which takes almost an hour itself!!) for their sitting.  I had 
to
use HEAPS of flash due to the hugemungo shadows on their faces.  Remember 
we
are in Outback QLD and at midday today it was approximately 42degrees
celcius with barely a scrap of shade in sight.  So, I found the only shade 
I
could and spent the whole time swearing under my breath about how beautiful
the light was at 8am when they were supposed to be there!

Exposure varied greatly, but I think they were mostly around f16, 1/150th
(using Tamron 28-200mm asph. f4-5.6, and also old manual Tamron 135mm f
2.5).  Took a couple of shots without flash and the exposure was reading at
f27, 1/750th!!  There was waay too much light to be outside shooting
bloody portraits!
Oh, and they look a bit dark and over saturated on the web on my monitor,
but when working in my lab's colour space in PS they look better...
FYI, there is one shot amongst these that I think is hilarious, I am not
going to point it out, but I am interested to see who notices it first...
Here's the link...

http://www.tanyamayer.com/boothgallery/index.html

Secondly, I managed to rope a model into posing for me so that I could try
out some studio stuff...  Before you go looking for them, there are NO BUTT
SHOTS (or fanny or whatever you refer to it as!) here, and no looking down
her top either ok!
http://www.tanyamayer.com/portrait8march04/index.html

Comments, criticisms, praises, whoops of delight, cries of disgust, threats
of lynching or even pleas that fairygirl be cannonised all welcome...
;-)

tan.

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Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Keith Whaley


Mark Erickson wrote:

[. . .]

 Wide Rolleiflex   Compact 55mm 6x6 system, plus
   it's a Rollei
 

Produced in 1961 - '67, there were less than 4000 made, and the prices 
show it!
McKeown lists them at  US$800-1200, in 1987-'88 time frame.
The 55mm in the 6x6 cm format is approx. equivalent to a 35mm f/l in a 
135mm camera.
I keep my eye open for a good Rollei,  but good ones are a little 
scarce. . .

keith whaley



RE: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Finally, I removed the battery grip and the 
> batteries, then replaced them and turned the camera back on. 
> Everything was fine after that. I shot another 20 frames or 
> so without incident. It was sort of like a computer freeze. 
> Has anyone else experienced anything like that? 

Only with my 645N. It will occasionally freeze up and can only be "rebooted"
by removing the batteries.

tv



OT Language WAS Re: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread ernreed2
Graywolf shared:
> Interesting comment, Frank. The peasants spoke Russian, and the Nobles spoke 
> French. That is why they rebelled (grin). Come to think of it the same thing 
> happened in England much earlier. Sir Walter Scott wrote an amusing chapter 
> about this language phenomenon in one of his books.

You mean in "Ivanhoe" where the jester talks about how animals have Saxon names 
but their meat becomes French when served to the Normans?

A recent discussion with my son brought this to mind.

ERN



Re: PAW: How Now Brown Cow?

2004-03-07 Thread graywolf
I was going to say, "You college professors are so smart". Then I discovered you 
had misspelled both words (according to my dictionary). Now I don't feel so 
dumb. BTW, was that bucolic sojourn a poetic rustic stay, or a brief 
agricultural visit?

LOL.

--

Steve Desjardins wrote:

I got this during a buccolic sojurn last week:

http://home.wlu.edu/~desjardi/

Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
graywolf
http://graywolfphoto.com
"You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway."



Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Stenquist) wrote:

> > Just waiting on the Sigma 12-24 in K mount, which is supposed to be 
> > happening, to complete the *istD outfit.
> Yep, seems to be a recurring theme. How good is this lens???

Never seen any pictures from it, although I've played with one on a Canon 
body. It isn't exactly small, but that doesn't bother me. The price of 
about UKP500 places it firmly in Sigma's "serious lenses" range; I ordered 
it because I only expect to use it on the *istD, it provides serious 
wideangle on that, and I'm fairly confident, from using the Sigma 24-70, 
that it will be adequate for digital. 

--- 
John Dallman, [EMAIL PROTECTED], HTML mail is treated as probable spam.



Re: About my name

2004-03-07 Thread frank theriault
I saw your smiley, Tom, but I think the peasants didn't care what language 
the court spoke.  They cared that they did all the work, for starvation 
wages (when they got wages at all), while the court lived in unequalled 
luxury, while not working at all.

Russia still lived in Feudal times up to the Revolution.

Reminds me one of the early scenes of Monty Python and the Holy Grail:

'Bow before the King"

"How did you know that was the King?"

"He's the only one without shit on his clothes."

Funny, but Marx said that the Revolution would be in industrialized 
countries, but Russia was still largely agrarian, and indeed was the most 
backward of the European countries.  Mind you, Marx was wrong about a lot of 
things.

But, way too OT, even for me.

cheers,
frank
"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true."  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: About my name
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:30:42 -0500
Interesting comment, Frank. The peasants spoke Russian, and the Nobles 
spoke French. That is why they rebelled (grin). Come to think of it the 
same thing happened in England much earlier. Sir Walter Scott wrote an 
amusing chapter about this language phenomenon in one of his books.

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Re: Frightening *istD experience

2004-03-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well since the camera is a computer, bugs are inevitable. 

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I was shooting some table top food for stock this afternoon. Had the 
*ist D set to manual. PC cord was attached to one monolight, the 
others were on slave. I shot about 50 frames, then on frame 51 the lcd 
review image  didn't appear. I hit the review button. Nothing 
happened. I looked at the window on the top of the camera. All the 
data was still in place. I went to take another shot. Nothing. 
Couldn't raise an image, couldn't take a shot. I turned the camera 
off, then on again. Nothing. Finally, I removed the battery grip and 
the batteries, then replaced them and turned the camera back on. 
Everything was fine after that. I shot another 20 frames or so without 
incident. It was sort of like a computer freeze. Has anyone else 
experienced anything like that? Could I have caused it by pushing the 
display button repeatedly while the buffer was full? In any case, I 
hope it doesn't happen again.
Paul





First PAW -- Boys watching their friend use a bow and arrow

2004-03-07 Thread bransky
Hello all:

OK, Stan, Frank and Boris encouraged me to post a photo, so I went over
to Walgreens (a US drug store chain, chemist for our friends in the UK
if I recall), and for $4 got some of my negatives scanned onto a CD,
then used a freeware program called EasyPhoto for my Mac to reduce the
file size.  No cropping, etc.  I really have no idea what I am doing
with this digitizing stuff or if there are better ways to compress the
original image.  The original print looks better but so be it.

Anyway, here's a picture I grabbed in the backyard last summer.  I liked
the way how the posture of one of my son's friends showed how he was
interested in yet repelled by the bow and arrow.   Here's the link, I
think it should work.

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2190917&size=lg

Suggestions, critiques, help welcome.

Thanks,

Aaron Bransky



RE: What gear is on your "lust list" ?

2004-03-07 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Thanks for the suggestion Paul, but I am going to get myself something that
can handle prints up to A3 - hence the extra price tag.  There are a few
models in the running right now and all are between aud$900 and aud $1100.

tan.

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 5:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What gear is on your "lust list" ?


I think the Epson 2200 will give you prints that are quite "sellable"
for around $500 US. Of course you're limited to 13x18.
Paul
On Mar 7, 2004, at 1:01 PM, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

>
> I have a "wish list" taped next to my computer monitor to keep me
> motivated.
> I have been fortunate enough to cross a number of things off it this
> year
> already!
>
> At the minute it looks like this: (I have the item written and then
> how much
> I am willing to pay for it (AUD) next to it)
>
> Battery grip for *istD   
>  $250.00
> Ambient/flash Lightmeter - a decent one, probably a Sekonic or Minolta
> $400.00
> Underwater Housing for Oly E10   
>  $350.00
> Pentax DA 16-45mm f4 OR Tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4 Di  $700.00
> Flashgun for the Oly E-10
>  $400.00
> Pentax FA 100mm f2.8 macro   
>  $300.00
> Pentax FA 77mm ltd f1.8  
>  $ some astronomical amount of money!
> Pentax FA 24-90 f3.2-4.5 OR Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 xr Di macro   $800.00
> Decent printer (that can print SELLABLE prints)  
>  $1100.00
> Large Softbox
>  $ 200.00
> Snoot, honeycomb and coloured gels   
>  $ 250.00
> DVD Burner   
>  $ 600.00
> 2gb CF card  
>  $ 600.00
> A second Pentax AF360fgz flash gun   
>  $ 450.00
> Flashbracket/hotshoe adapter/cables etc  
>  $ 150.00
>
> plus lots more that I add to my list every day!
>
> Phew, I'm going to bed, it is 4am here!
>
> tan.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 8 March 2004 3:19 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss
> Subject: What gear is on your "lust list" ?
>
>
> So the 28mm shift lens debate got me thinking about my "lust list,"
> the gear
> that I really really want (but probably won't buy).  Here it is in no
> particular order:
>
>   Item  Why
>   ---
>   Pentax SMC-A 15mm Indoor shots and big stuff
>
>   Pentax 28mm shift not really sure--but it's cool
>
>   Voigtlander Bessa-L   US$420 for camera and lens:
>   and 15mm F4.5 lensthe ultimate compact wde
> angle system for the money.
>
>   *ist DNeed I explain?
>
>   Wide Rolleiflex   Compact 55mm 6x6 system, plus
> it's a Rollei
>
>
> So what's on your list?
>
>
>




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